Oct 18, 2021 City Council

[Call to Order: President Houk]

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NOW IN SESSION. PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

WELCOME BACK TO HOW THE CLERK PAUL ROLL, PLEASE, MR SHOCKEY PRESENT. MR SCHLEGEL HERE. THIS IS HELP. HERE MR HOLE HERE, MR BARRY HERE. ALL RIGHTS AND I HAD IN MY NOTES.

WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO EXCUSE THE MAYOR. BUT I SEE HE HAS JOINED US FOR YOUR WEBEX. SO

[Approval of Minutes]

[Welcome & Reading of Agenda: Pres Houk]

UNDER LANDS. WE HAVE ORDINANCE C 57 21. ORDINANCE SEE 62 21 RESOLUTION CR 55 21. UNDER SERVICE. WE HAVE ORDINANCE C 58 21 C 59 21. UNDER FINANCE. WE HAVE ORDINANCE C 63 21 C 64 21 RESOLUTIONS CR 56 21. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THIS AGENDA IS APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT, AND WE WILL MOVE INTO THE AGENDA WITH LANDS. MR. SHOCKEY

[Ordinance C-57-21 Authorizing the Appropriation of Property and Easements from Multiple Properties for the Public Purpose of Making, Repairing, and Improving a Public Road, specifically, the Demorest Road Corridor Improvement Project. Second reading and public hearing.]

GO POUND SALT TODAY. OF ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FILE ON BECAUSE. IT'S MORE THAN THREE TIMES THE APPRAISAL. THERE'S AN F NEGOTIATING. SO WE REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO WORK THIS OUT. IRONICALLY THE THING ABOUT THE PROJECT IS EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE US. LIKE THE PROJECT. MAYBE ONLY TALKED TO ONE LANDOWNER WHO SAYS, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO MEANT TO MOVE INTO THE COUNTRY AND STAY IN THE COUNTRY AND YOU GUYS CAUGHT ME BUT EVERYONE ELSE THAT THEY SEE IT AS AN IMPROVEMENT. UM IT'S JUST GONNA BE A TIMING PROBLEM. UM. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE UNTIL THE LAST POSSIBLE MINUTE WITH THESE FOLKS TO TRY TO GET THESE ALL DONE AMICABLY. WITHOUT FIGHTING. I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALISTIC ON A COUPLE OF THEM. BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT IT WOULD BE. VERY RARE FOR US TO FILE ANY OF THESE CASES. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I ONLY KNOW OF ONE RIGHT NOW. I'VE SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME TO HIM. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS JUST BEFORE IT

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YOU HEAR ME? THE LAST PERSON I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH TAMMY GOT ME A PHONE NUMBER TODAY. GOOD.

YEAH BUT I MEAN, I KNOCKED ON EVERY DOOR. UM, I MEAN, MYSELF DOOR TO DOOR TALKING TO PEOPLE SO. AS OF RIGHT NOW, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH EVERY SWELL I HAVE NOT CALLED HER BACK YET. I GOTTA CALL HER TODAY. I JUST GOT HER CONTACT INFORMATION THIS AFTERNOON. BUT YEAH, I HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY NOW. IS THIS ONE OF THOSE WERE THE THEIR PROPERTIES ACTUALLY GO TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD OR THEY JUST COACH THAT'S BEEN HARD. A LOT OF THIS IS JUST EXPLAINING LIFE TO PEOPLE BECAUSE. IN THE OLD DAYS HOW THEY USED TO DEVELOP EVERYONE OWNED AS CENTER OF THE ROAD. I MEAN, THE REALITY OF THIS PROJECT IS AND IT'S HARD TO TELL WITH ALL THESE FUNNY COLORS ON THERE, BUT. RIGHT NOW. EVERYONE ELSE TO THE CENTER. I MEAN, THE REALITY IS WE'RE ONLY ADDING ABOUT SIX FT OF PAVEMENT. BUT WHEN YOU SEE THESE NUMBERS, I MEAN LIKE FOR THIS ONE. IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE 37 FT. WE'RE GETTING. BUT THE REALITY IS THAT'S THE CENTER OF THE ROAD. ONCE YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT 37 FT ISN'T IN THAT 37 FT. IT'S REALLY ONLY ABOUT SIX FT OF PAVEMENT. WE'RE ADDING THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A GRASS AREA AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHICH SIDE OF THE ROAD YOU'RE ON EITHER A BIKE PATH OR SIDEWALK. SO EVERYONE'S SCARED TO DEATH THAT THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE IN THEIR FRONT YARD AND FOR THE PROPERTIES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD. IT GETS A LITTLE CLOSE. UM, I MEAN, IT GETS CLOSER TO THE HOUSES OF THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT FRANKLY, I'VE ACTUALLY SETTLED MORE WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD. SO IT'S REALLY JUST EXPLAIN TO HIM A LOT OF PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, THEY NEVER REALLY THOUGHT OF THEMSELVES AS OWNING THE ROOM. SO WHEN THEY T 37 FT, THEY'RE MEASURING FROM EDGE OF PAVEMENT, AND IT'S LIKE, WELL NO. HERE'S HOW IT REALLY WORKS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT THAT MAKES SENSE. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD. YOU'RE GOING NORTH ON. YES SIR.

YEAH AND THEN DAD WILL ALSO AFFECT US IN PHASE TWO BECAUSE DOUBLES YES. OUR ROAD CLOSE TO THE WELL. I MEAN, SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE FURTHER SOUTH NOW ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE ROAD AND. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, BUT WE'RE ONLY ADDING THE REALITY IS EVEN WITH ALL THESE COLORS UP THERE. IT'S ABOUT SIX PIECE OF PAVEMENT ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR THE MOST PART OF THE MINUTES GENERALLY, BUT. SO THE PAVEMENT ITSELF ISN'T GROWING THAT MUCH. AND I WILL TELL YOU THE RESIDENTS I'VE SPOKEN WITH, ESPECIALLY THE LONG TERM RESIDENTS. THEY ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND BIKE PASS BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU. JUST GOING DOOR TO DOOR ON THOSE ROADS AND LONGER CITY ROAD. IT IS NOT A GREAT AREA TO WALK. I MEAN, IT'S INTERESTING.

IT'S A COUNCIL ALL THOSE, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOLKS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SETTLING, GOING TO EMINENT DOMAIN AND GOING TO COURT WITH EMINENT DOMAIN. IS THAT CORRECT? YES SO WHAT HAPPENS IS BECAUSE THIS IS A ROADWAY PROJECT UNDER OHIO LAW. WE HAVE A POWER CALLED QUICK. TAKE. BECAUSE WHAT THE LAW DOESN'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS LOW, NOT ALLOW ONE PERSON TO HOLD A CITY HOSTAGE. IN TERMS OF YOU CAN'T DO A PROJECT. UNDER OHIO LAW IF YOU WERE TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE AND AUTHORIZED THIS WHEN IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE. I WOULD BE ABLE TO GO DOWN TO COURT AND FILE A COMPLAINT FOR EMINENT DOMAIN AND WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT OUR PRAISE VALUE ON FILE WITH THE COURT. THE MOMENT WE DO THAT WE CAN START WORKING. IN ALL THAT WE REALLY END UP DOING THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS IS THEN NEGOTIATING THE AMOUNT BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A. IS THIS A GOOD PROJECT? IS THIS A BAD PROJECT? THAT'S NOT WHAT THE COURTS DO. THE COURTS WILL NEGOTIATE WHAT IS FAIR MARKET VALUE UNDER OHIO LAW. AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD IT ALL APPRAISED BY A GOOD APPRAISAL FIRM. WE HAVE REALLY GOOD NUMBERS. I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE VERY REASONABLE. WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THINGS LIKE TREES. UM A ROCK SOMEONE NEEDS MOVED. I MEAN THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S. IT HASN'T ALL BEEN ABOUT MONEY, BUT THERE'S STILL A FEW THAT ARE ABOUT MONEY THAT WE'RE STICKING ON. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING IT. MR. BARRY QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW THE OTHER THING. THE RESIDENTS I THINK OUR, UM THAT NO, IT IS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES ON THAT SIDE, AND THAT'S EVEN BIGGER. YOU KNOW, SO EVEN A BIGGER ISSUE TO A LOT OF THEM TALKING WITH THE RESIDENTS I'VE BEEN HIGHLIGHTING BECAUSE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, A LOT OF THESE ARE NOT IN THE CITY, RIGHT? BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING AT LEAST ACCESS TO STORM, UM SEWER, SANITARY, SEWER AND WATER LINES WERE NOT MAKING THEM COME TO THE CITY TO TAP IN. A LOT OF THEM ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. THAT COUPLE I MET WITH TODAY. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED. THEY HAVE CITY WATER, BUT THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SANITARY SEWER BECAUSE THEY'RE AERATION FEEL WHICH I LEARNED MORE ABOUT TODAY, THE NIGHT EVER NEEDED TO KNOW. IS ON THE FRITZ. AND SO THEY'RE PRETTY EXCITED. BUT, YEAH, ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN BIG SELLING FACTORS AND THE CURVE AND GUTTERING IS GOING TO HELP DEAL WITH WATER CONTROL, SO THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. MR SAKE, I HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC. CHAD

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I DON'T THINK I'M EXAGGERATING TO SAY I'VE PROBABLY HAD 30 PHONE CALLS IN THE LAST WEEK.

JUST BACK AND FORTH WITH FOLKS SO THEY'RE ON MY LIST. I WILL GET TO YOU. TOMORROW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THAT'S ALL THAT'S OUT THERE. THIS IS LABOR. I THINK IT WAS A SHOCKING. FIRST OF ALL, I'M GLAD YOU'RE DIDN'T GET HIT BY A CAR. GLAD YOU'RE HEALTHY. SORRY I MISSED YOU WHILE YOU SWIM. UM I AM. NIGHT QUESTIONING WHETHER OBVIOUSLY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY I DO BELIEVE DEMONSTRATED NEEDS WHITE NAME BECAUSE OF ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT AREA. AND THAT IMPROVING THE. THE STORM, WATER AND DRAINAGE ISSUES WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO COMMUNITY MIGHT ONLY HANG UP IS THE POSSIBILITY OF IN A DOMAIN REQUIREMENT. WHICH WE SPOKEN OF, BUT. JUST WON'T LET ANYONE DON'T WORRY. STAND ON THOSE IF MR SLAVE ALL I JUST WANT TO STRESS I MEAN, WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER. I MEAN, I DO NOT WANT TO GO FILE ANY OF THESE LAWSUITS. I MEAN, I WILL SETTLE EVERY ONE OF THESE THAT I POSSIBLY CAN. I MEAN, SOME, I'M JUST NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO. BUT IT'S NOT FOR LACK OF EFFORT. I MEAN, WE HAVE TRIED TO SIT DOWN WITH EVERY HOMEOWNER WHETHER IT BE ON THE PHONE IN PERSON. I MEAN, THE ONE WOMAN TODAY. YES, COVID. ONLY HOW TO TELEPHONE CONFERENCE WITH HER. YOU HAVE KNOCKED ON DOORS. I MEAN, WE ARE TAKING EVERY STEP WE CAN TO NOT GO DOWN THAT ROUTE. BUT AT THE END OF DAY IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD THE PROJECT WE WILL NOT HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO DO SO. BUT I THINK BASED ON MY NUMBERS AS OF THIS AFTERNOON KENSI AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY FEW, IF WE HAVE TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE END UP GOING TO COURT, THEN THEY HAVE TO HIRE LAWYERS. THE LAWYERS ARE GOING TO TAKE MONEY FROM THEM. IT'S IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST. IT'S PROBABLY NOT MY BEST INTEREST BECAUSE WE PROBABLY GET PAID IF WE'RE GOING TO COURT, BUT. HONESTLY IT'S IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST TO SETTLE THESE AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE MADE EVERY EFFORT AND WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. TRYING TO AVOID THAT. LIKE I SAID, IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, AND I THINK MOST OF THE RESIDENTS THERE THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH RAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT JUST. ITS RELIGIOUS FIGURING OUT HOW MUCH AND SOMETIMES YOU NEED A COURT TO TELL THEM HOW MUCH IT IS BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T AGREE. YES, ABSOLUTELY. I HOPE I DID NOT COME OFF AS I WAS BEING, UH, NEGLIGENT OF THE WORK YOU PUT IN I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY. I DO BELIEVE YOU DO A GOOD JOB. YOU AND YOUR STAFF. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM.

COUNCIL ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? I THINK WE OUGHT TO KEEP MR SMITH PRESENTING THEIR I LIKE HOW POINTED OUT TREES AND ROCKS, TRUTH. UNIVERSE. GORDON'S HAD ITS SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE WOULD BE APPROVED. SECOND. MR SLABAUGH.

NO. MRS. HELP? YES. MR HOLT? YES MR BARRY? YES, MR SHOPKEEPER? YES. THANK YOU VERY

[Ordinance C-62-21 Accept the Plat of Pinnacle Quarry, Section 2, located South of White Road. First reading.]

[Resolution CR-55-21 Approve the Development Plan for Beulah Park, Subarea C.]

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STEP WAS SUPPORTIVE OF IT, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A REALLY MINOR DEVIATE. AND SO WHEN WE ACTUALLY DRAFT THIS, IT'S MORE THEORETICAL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH, UH, ELEVATIONS ARE MODELS THAT THEY HAVE. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE BUILDER. THAT PARTICULAR POINT, SO WE JUST USE SOME. SOMETHING ELSE. WE USE NUMBERS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT THE DESIRE IS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY HAVING A MODEL THAT GOES WITH. CORRECT AND MOST OF THE TIMES WE HAVE WE KNOW THAT THE BUILDER ON THE BACK END IN THIS CASE, IT WAS LARGER DEVELOPMENT. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT PARTY WAS SOMEWHAT INVOLVED, BUT. WHO KNOWS THAT THEY MAY NOT BEEN FULLY VESTED ER KNOWN WHAT LINE OF HOME DID YOU KEEP PROVIDING THIS COMMUNITY, SO YEAH. REALLY IS KIND OF A GUESSTIMATE. UM BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND THERE. IN THEIR CONSULTANTS TO REALLY GET WHAT THE BALLPARK SHOULD BEFORE. BEFORE I ASKED FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. WE HAVE SOME ELEVATIONS TO DEAL WITH OTHER IF YOU COULD JUST STAY THERE FOR ONE SECOND WHILE I DEAL WITH THIS. THIS CHARACTER CAN YOU PUT THIS ELEVATIONS ARE FROM THE SCREEN? IF YOU WHAT. WE HAVE SOME NEW ELEVATIONS HERE, UH, ON THERE, AND. AND THE ONES THAT ARE STARRED. SUCH AS ELEVATION. BE HEARTLAND CRAFTSMAN THERE. THAT'S WHEN NEW ELEVATION AND THEN THIS WENT THROUGH PLANNING, AND THAT'S PART OF. WHAT THIS IS SO IN ORDER TO US TO ADDRESS THIS WE HAVE TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND SO I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR AREAS SEE TO INCLUDE NEW ELEVATIONS AS EXHIBIT ONE TONIGHT DATED 10 18 21. AND I SO MOVE. SECOND YES. THEY'RE SO KIND OF WHITE. UM. IF WE'RE NOT BECAUSE WE'RE WITHIN 2% HERE. EXPLAINED TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE. WHY WE'RE WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT ELEVATIONS TO PUT IN HERE. WHY? WHY ARE WE DOING. ELEVATIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE'RE THE SAME ELEVATIONS THAT USE IN SOME VARIOUS DNE, UM, WITH THIS APPLICATION. THE WAY WE PROCESS THIS APPLICATION. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT RHODES. WE'RE LOOKING MORE AT LANDSCAPE. WE'RE LOOKING AT ARCHITECTURE. BECAUSE OF DESIGN TEXT WAS WRITTEN. THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE THESE ELEVATION. IF IT WAS THAT REFORM WAS NOT IN THE ZONING TAX. WE WOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. BUT THE OLDER ELEVATIONS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT THERE WERE APPROVED AND OTHER SUB AREAS UP YOU APART. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS SUBSECTION BECAUSE. NATION WE TRIED DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATE A LITTLE BIT, AND BY DOING THAT WE ASK THEM TO LIMIT SOME OF THE. OF THE ELEVATION THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY PROOF OTHER AREAS. IT IS UP OR JUST REALLY DIFFERENTIATE IT. UM BUT ALSO WHEN WE REVIEW THIS, WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THAT THIS AREA IS REALLY BORDERING A NON NON RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION FROM THE. SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD AREA COMMERCIAL AREA TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE, UH TO THE CUSTOM HOME, SO WE FELT THAT WHAT THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED, UH, HEARING THE CRITERIA. AS WELL AS IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE WITHIN THE ZONE TECH. THEY COMPLIED WITH THE REGULATIONS, SO THEY WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THEM. SERIOUS. FOLLOW UP. QUESTION TO THAT IS AND I'M ASKING SOME QUESTIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE ASKED ME QUESTIONS IS JUST SO. PEOPLE CAN HEAR THE ANSWER HERE SO WITH DOES THIS DO THESE ELEVATIONS STILL NEED TO GO BEFORE THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THAT SECTION, OR ARE WE BASICALLY. SAYING THAT THESE ARE APPROVED AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS THAT ALL THE OTHER, UM, HOMES IN THAT SUB AREA HAVE TO GO THROUGH. THE PARK. FRESH HOMES HAVE TO GO THROUGH A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY BEING THROUGH THE. ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON PARK.

LOT DOES NOT HAVE THAT SCRUTINY. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE WOULD BE APPROVING THOSE JUST LIKE WE WOULD ANY OTHER SUDBURY. LIKE SAID THE PARK LOT. THE PART OF THE FURNITURE LOTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN AIR B PROCESS, BUT THESE DO NOT. SO DID THE END ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S ON THE MOTION? YES BUT TRYING TO LIMIT DISCUSSION TO THE MOST. SO AGAIN. I'M GOING BACK TO THESE TO THESE HOUSES. WHICH IS THE MOTION THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION TO THAT IS THIS ONLY PERTAINS TO THOSE NINE TO THOSE? 13 LOTS CORRECT. SO

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MR MR CHAIRMAN. YES. SO. MR ROGERS, WHICH OF THESE HOMES ARE ALREADY ARE ALREADY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OVER FAULTY. I'M WE JUST LOOKING AT THE START ONES THAT ARE THAT ARE CURRENTLY.

EXISTING HOMES OVER ON THE OTHER AREA, OR ALL OF THESE HOMES ARE PERMITTED IN THE OTHER AREA. THE ONES WITH BIG X THROUGH WERE THE ONES THAT WERE NOT COMMISSION. THE ONES WITH THE LITTLE STARS ARE THE ONES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. PUT INTO THE PACKAGE. OH, ACTUALLY, MR CHAIRMAN. LET'S BACK UP HERE. SO. FOR FIFTH AVENUE. THE ITEMS THAT DO NOT HAVE AN X THROUGH THEM OR APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION. EXCEPT FOR ELEVATION, BE ELEVATION BE HAD AN X THROUGH IT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND IS NOW BEING ASKED TO BE PART OF THE CHANGE. OKAY THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION THAT REALLY HELPS FOR BOARDWALK. THE CHANGE IS THEY'RE ASKING FOR ELEVATION AID TO BE INCLUDED. BUT THEY ARE ASKING THAT ELEVATION F BE DELETED. PARK PLACE HAS NO CHANGE TO WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION SOLVED. WOODWARD HAS NO CHANGE TO A PLANNING COMMISSION SAW. AND ABBEYVILLE IS ASKING THE ELEVATION A THE ACCEPTED AN ELEVATION E. BE REMOVED. THAT'S THAT. THOSE ARE THE CHANGES. THERE'S THREE PIECES. JUST TO CLARIFY BECAUSE. UPON A THOROUGH EXAMINATION.

THESE WERE CONSISTENT WITH THE TEXT, AND THAT IS WHY THEY WHAT HASN'T MATTER. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE. YES. THE FIRST LIST WAS SOMEWHAT PREPARED IN HASTE. AND SO ONCE THAT'S THE TIME WAS INVESTED IN GOING THROUGH EACH OF THEM THE USE OF THE ONES THAT THAT THAT MEAT AND ONE OF THEM WAS FOUND TO NOT ME. STANDARD, OKAY? FURTHER CLARIFYING INFORMATION, MR BARRY. YEAH. SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND MISS MISS KELLY, MR RASH. MAYBE YOU SHOULD STAND UP HERE FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE I'M I'M TRYING NOT TO BE CONFUSED. BUT IT'S A SHORT TRIP TONIGHT, UM, GOING BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE THIS COUNTY. SO THE ONE HERE THAT HAS THE STAR ON IT.

ON FIFTH AVENUE. DID PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW THIS ONE IT WAS IN THE PACKET, BUT I HAD IT WAS NOT CONSIDERED, IT WOULD BE ONE THAT HAD THE EXTRA INITIALLY. SO DID PLANNING COMMISSION GIVE YOU A REASON WHY THEY DID NOT WANT THAT ONE. WHEN WE PUT THIS FROM PLAYING COMMISSION, IT WAS THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER. PLANK OUR STAFF DID NOT CROSS OFF ANY OF THESE WHAT WE DO. WE LOOKED AT WHAT THEY WANTED TO. HAVE UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IN FRONT PLAYING COMMISSION. MR CHAIRMAN. YES UH, YOU HAVE REPRESENTATION HERE FROM THE DEVELOPER, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS THE DEVELOPERS CHOICE TO ASK FOR THESE CHANGES. OKAY AFTER PLANNING COMMISSION HAD ALREADY APPROVED IT. INITIALLY WHAT WE PUT IN FROM PLAYING COMMISSION WAS AT THE REQUEST OF THE DEVELOPER. AND THEN SINCE THEN, DEVELOPER HAS CHANGED THERE. THOUGHTS IN TERMS OF WHAT ELEVATIONS ARE TWEET PROVIDED STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO WHAT THE INITIALLY SUBMITTED OR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FIRST AMENDING. MS MONITOR. MR KELLY, COULD YOU CLEAR THIS UP A LITTLE BIT FOR US NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE TRY. YES. PAT KELLY TO FIFTIES DRUGS. THREE COLUMBUS, OHIO. AND I JUST WANT TO MAYBE HELP CLARIFY SO POLTI. ON THE WEST AND I THINK SUB AREA E. BROUGHT A NEW PRODUCT TO COLUMBUS, AND THIS PRODUCT WAS BUILT ON SLAB.

AND. WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOUR ELEVATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN. IT'S THEIR UPGRADED MODELS, AND ALL OF THESE WILL HAVE BASEMENTS. SO THESE ARE DIFFERENTIATED FROM THAT SOUNDS.

AND, UM, THAT'S THE REASON PART OF THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT MODELS HERE AND SOME

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AND AGAIN, WE DID RECEIVE A FAVORABLE, SUPPORTIVE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM ZONING BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT STAFF AND ALSO A UNANIMOUS VOTE FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. THE ONLY DEVIATION IF I CAN PULL THIS DOWN HAVING TROUBLE SPEAKING AS A PRESENTER. SO WITH THIS APPLICATION, WE'RE IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENTIRE ZONING TEXT FOR SOME VARIOUS SEE FROM DENSITY TO LOT WENT TO LOCK CONFIGURATION AREA SETBACKS. ALL OF THAT, EXCEPT FOR THE GARAGE FACE WITH AS COMPARED TO THE TOTAL WITH THE HOME INCLUDING THE BRUNCH, AND WE RECEIVED THE SAME DEVIATION FROM 45% WHICH IS LISTED IN THE ZONING TEXT. 2 46% FOR SUB AREA D AS WELL AS A PORTION OF E AND IT IS LESS THAN 1% BUT WE'RE

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SEE ALL LOTS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FORMAL ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. AND MEET CERTAIN MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE TEXT. BUT HE DOES SELL BECAUSE HE WANTS A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT WITH GREAT BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR VILLA PARK. AND THAT'S WHY HE IS DOING THAT REVIEW ARCHITECTURALLY. IN ADDITION, UM THIS DEVIATION IS OBVIOUSLY CONFORMING TO THE EXISTING AND FUTURE ABUSES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN VILLA PARK.

WE'VE OBTAINED THIS CONSISTENT DEVIATION ON OTHER APPLICATIONS BEFORE YOU AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING OF THE SAME DEVIATION AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. FOR JUST THESE 13 MONTHS 36 THROUGH 48. THANK YOU. VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM HIS BODY? BURN SO IN THIS MARKET, ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS THAT I HAVE HEARD IS THAT YOU KNOW THE STREET ON CASSIE DRIVE WHICH CASSITY SOUTH THERE. UM. IN MY TO UNDERSTAND THESE WILL BE CUSTOM LOTS THE SAME AS THEIR OUR OWN DEAL OF PARK BOULEVARD.

BUT THE ONES THAT ARE JUST SOUTH OF THESE LOTS IN YELLOW WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED ON STREETS. B AND C. THOSE ARE ALSO FRONTING CASSIDY DRIVE. SO I GUESS I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.

ARE WE GOING TO SEE ANOTHER CHANGE AND ASKING FOR UH HUH. YOU KNOW ANOTHER. TRAP BUILDER IF YOU WILL TO COME IN AND BUY THOSE LOTS AS WELL. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT BUILDER WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ONE TO A FEW OR MANY OF THOSE LOTS AND. THAT APPLICATION IS NOT BEFORE YOU.

WE HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF WHO'S GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN THAT AND WHAT BUILDER WILL BE COMING FORWARD. BUT WHATEVER BUILDER COMES FORWARD IS PROVIDED THE ZONING TEXT IF THERE WOULD BE ANY. DEVIATIONS NEEDED OR REQUIRED BY THAT BUILDER, WHETHER ONE A FEW OR MORE. WE WOULD COME IN AT THAT TIME WITH THOSE DEVIATIONS, BUT I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THAT AT THIS TIME. I'M JUST REPEATING QUESTIONS THAT I'VE I'VE BEEN ASKED THEN THE OTHER COMMENT WAS. SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT ON ROSE LANE. THAT IS THE CONDOS HAS THERE BEEN TALK ABOUT EXPENSE, EXPANDING THAT CONDOS TO FACE ROSE LANE AS WELL. THE KIND OF FORM OF OWNERSHIP WOULD NOT BE NOT ALLOWED OR NOT PERMITTED IN SUDBURY, ASI BECAUSE OWNERSHIP IS NOT DISCUSSED IN ANY OF THE ZONING TEXT. SO CONDOS IS JUST A FORM OF OWNERSHIP. IT IS A FEE, SIMPLE FORM FORM OF OWNERSHIP, BUT I HAVE NO APPLICATION OR KNOWLEDGE OF ANYTHING COMING DOWN. YOUR WAY FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR LOTS OF LONG ROSE LANE.

CONDO OR OTHERWISE. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. I DO? YES YEAH. SO I WILL SAY THAT IN IN REVIEWING THE STAFF REPORT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AND THEN HAVING THE BENEFIT OF THIS NARRATIVE. I GUESS I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. WHERE WE ARE WITH THESE 13 MONTHS, SO I'LL SAY THAT AS A PREFACE, UM BUT I WILL SAY THAT THIS WEEKEND I WAS KIND OF PUTTING MYSELF IN THIS FRAME OF MIND OF LIKE, OKAY. I AM A PERSON LOOKING TO BUY A HOUSE.

AND I'M GOING TO FIGURE OUT THE INFORMATION THAT I WOULD BE COLLECTING IF I WAS PURCHASING A HOME IN THIS AREA. SO I GUESS IT. AS A BYPRODUCT OF THAT. I'M ASKING SO THESE 13 LOTS ARE THEY. 13 OF THE 84 LOTS THAT ARE LISTED AS THE PADDOCK. YES I BELIEVE SO. I DON'T HAVE THE PLATINUM FRONT OF ME, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN 2019 AND RECORDED. BUT IT WOULD HAVE SHOWN ALL THE LOTS IN THIS ENTIRETY OF SUB VARIOUS C AND ALL OF THE LOT WITH SAND WHERE THEY'RE CONFIGURED IN LOCATION WOULD BE SET ALREADY. MAYBE MR KELLY KNOWS THE EXACT NUMBER. BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT I WOULD THINK IS THAT 84 LOTS TOTAL IN SOUTHERN YOU SEE, MR KELLY? FELT SO MY I GUESS. MY COMMENT AND OR QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE MARKETING OF THE

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STRICTLY THE ZONING TEXT. WHERE WE HAVE LITERALLY A DEVIATION FROM THE ZONING TAX, WHICH IS THE PERCENTAGE FOR GARAGE. SURFACE. UM. THAT SAID. WHEN I GO OUT AND LOOK AT THESE PROPERTIES, I'M LOOKING AT A SITE THAT TELLS ME THAT THERE ARE 84 CUSTOM HOME SITE. I WAS AND THEY ARE LABELED AS THE PADDOCK. I'LL JUST I'LL JUST LET ME LET ME GET THIS ALL OUT HERE, SO THEY'RE LABELED AS THE PADDOCK. CAN AND, UM AND SO I'M PUTTING MYSELF IN THE MIND OF IF I'M A PERSON WHO HAS MADE AN INVESTMENT IN A PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE JUST SAYS I KNOW WE HEARD FROM SOMEONE DURING PLANNING COMMISSION. CUSTOM HOME SITE AND THE THESE ARE NOT TRACT HOMES. BUT THIS IS A PRODUCTION HOMES, A BUILDER THAT BENEFIT BENEFITING FROM ECONOMIES OF SCALE. WE HAVE A STYLE OF HOME AND YOU CAN. SOMEWHAT CUSTOMIZE IT. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, YOU'RE GOING TO CHOOSE FROM THIS LIST THAT WE'VE JUST APPROVED. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IF THIS IS THE PATH THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN. I THINK WE HAVE TO STOP IT AT THIS BUFFER TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA NUMBER ONE BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO AND WHAT IS OUT THERE AND BEING MARKETED TO THIS COMMUNITY. AND I FEEL A RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MY MARKETING IS CUSTOM HOME SITES, SO I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS IT RELATES TO THIS CONVERSATION. PROBABLY WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? THANKS FOR THAT CONCERN. I SHARE THAT CONCERN. AND. I WILL JUST SAY CUSTOMS ARE PRETTY VAGUE TERM.

SO FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE WE HAD CUSTOM HOME THAT WAS PRESENTED FOR THESE EXACT LOTS. IT WAS A SPLIT LEVEL HOME. WE REJECTED IT AND OUR PLAN APPROVAL. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CONFORMED TO THE STYLE. AND SO WORK WE REVIEW. OTHER THAN THEY ARE. B. WE AS A DEVELOPER REVIEW EVERY HOME IN THIS SECTION. CLARITY. THESE LAWS. AND SECONDLY, I'LL JUST SAY THAT. OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN ON THE PARK FRONT LOT, BECAUSE THAT'S. IT WAS REALLY HAVE THAT CHARACTER AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY. A STRONG STATEMENT FOR BEAUTIFUL PARK. THERE'S FOUR HOMES UNDER CONSTRUCTION ALONG THE PARK NOW. AND THEREFORE DIFFERENT BUILDERS. THAT'S BEEN OUR GOAL ALL ALONG. NEVER VARIETY OF BUILDERS. SO NOW WE HAVE. THEY ARE HOMES FANTASY HOMES, COPPER TREE OWNS AND YOU LLANELLI HOME. THREE OF THOSE FOUR BUILDERS ARE NEW, THE GROUP CITY. AND THEY'LL DO EXCELLENT JOB. AND. I'M NOT APOLOGETIC FOR PULTE HOMES BECAUSE THEY'VE CUSTOMIZED THESE HOMES. THEY'VE AGREED THEY ALL HAVE BASEMENT. AND ALL THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT COST. BUT I'VE ALSO FOUND AND IT'S KIND OF MIND BOGGLING, BUT. PEOPLE WHO BUILD CUSTOM HOMES DON'T WANT TO INVEST IN DESIGN. BUT PULTE HOMES DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB IN A INVEST IN DESIGN, AND YOU CAN TELL FROM THE ELEVATIONS AS WELL AS HE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FLOOR PLANS SO. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT THAT ALL ADD ON YOUR CONCERN. WHAT ELSE IS FOR A CALL. MM MR ROEDER BACKED PRISON. BECOME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. I DID I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY. READERMAN. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES MY NAME IS ED RITTER BACK AND I LIVE AT 37 16 PARK DRIVE. AND I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS OVER THIS BECAUSE.

THEIR MARKETING BROCHURE STATES RIGHT ON IT 84 CUSTOM HOME SITES. THAT IS WHAT WAS SOLD TO US. MY WIFE AND I PAID A PREMIUM PRICE FOR OUR LOT. WHEN WE HAD A ZOOM MEETING WITH MR KELLY. AND MR POMPEY, THE REALTOR. HE STATED SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT AND I HAVE EXCERPTS OF IT. I HAVE IT TAPED. THAT HE DID NOT WANT POLTI IN THERE. THIS IS A CUSTOM AREA. HE COULD HAVE SOLD M I AND DONE THE WHOLE THING AND BEEN DONE WITH IT, BUT HE THIS IS SPECIAL. HE DIDN'T CARE IF IT TOOK 20 YEARS. THIS IS WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DEVELOP.

AND I WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN STATES AND STATED MY CONCERNS AS WELL.

AND AGAIN, WE DID HEAR FROM SOME PEOPLE. UM, THAT. UM YEP. KHAN WANTS TO BUY THE LOTS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY MR BARRY ON ROSE LANE. WHICH MAKES SENSE IT BACKS RIGHT UP TO THEM. SO ONCE WE OPEN THIS DOOR, AND YOU KNOW US, UM, THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE, CASSIDY. AND THERE WAS NOTHING SAID THAT ABSOLUTELY IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY SAID. WE

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WHEREABOUTS ARE YOU ARE YOU ON CARRYING OUT OF THE PICTURE THERE? IT'S DOWN ON THE CORNER AT THE IT WILL BE AT THE BOTTOM CORNER THERE AT THE CORNER OF THE POND. OH, SORRY. RIGHT, CROSSING THE POND ON THE CORNER OF BILL APART, DRIVING PEOPLE AWAY. VISIT THAT WHITE FARMHOUSES? YES, CORNER? YES, SIR. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS. PROMISE. THERE.

I'M CONCERNED. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR ABOUT HER. YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMERCIAL. I GET. WE DON'T HAVE, UM. ANOTHER DEVELOPER COMING IN AND TAKING 15 LOTS AND PULTE IS A GOOD BUILDING. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT VERY GOOD BUILDING. THEY DO A NICE PRODUCT THAT EVERYTHING BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M DON'T MENTION THIS TO MR KELLY. I JUST DON'T WANT. BULA PULTE DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ALL SIGNED ON FOR, UM AND SO, I MEAN, I I'M I'M A LITTLE FEARFUL THAT WILL END UP WITH. MORE PULTE AND, UM, YOU KNOW CONDOS ON THE ON ROSE LANE AND THAT TYPE OF THING AND I, THAT'S NOT WHAT WHEN WE STARTED THIS JOURNEY THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED. UM. THANK YOU, MR ROOD BECK FOUND THERE. OTHER IT'S GONE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. MR. KELLY, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THE YES. FIRST OF ALL. WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE THE READER BACKS IN THE PADDOCK AREA THAT THEY BUILT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE. AND, UM I'M VERY HAPPY NOW THAT WE HAVE OTHERS. WILL BE VERY NICE HOMES ALONG THE PARK FRONT JOINING YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING. UM. WE'VE RAISED A LOT PRICES ADJACENT TO MR RITTER BACK. SO. TO EMPLOY OR EVEN THINK THAT VALUES ARE DECREASING THAT IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. FROM A LICENSED APPRAISER LICENSE ACTIVE APPRAISER BY THE STATE OF OHIO WOMAN. LICENSE ACTIVE BROKER. BY THE STATE OF OHIO. I'VE SPENT MY WHOLE LIFE, 40 YEARS AND LAND DEVELOPMENT. AND NOTHING WE'RE DOING. IS OUT OF CHARACTER IS GOING TO DETRACT FROM THE VALUE THAT IS PARKED FRONT LOTS IN FACT, LITTLE COMPLIMENT IT BY VIRTUE OF THE ACTIVITY. AND SO. MY ONLY WISH IS THAT WE HAD MORE LOTS HERE BECAUSE I KNOW TODAY COSTLY 20% MORE TO PUT THESE LOTS IN. AND I JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT TO ALL OF YOU THAT. THESE LOTS WERE TALKING ABOUT THEIR PRICE 25% LESS THAN THE OTHER LOTS, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.

THAT'S BECAUSE THEY BACK UP TO COMMERCIAL NO ONE'S GOING TO BUILD THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOME.

BACKING UP TO COMMERCIAL. SO ALL OF THIS. I'M SPEAKING FROM A DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE AND TRYING TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND OUR THOUGHT PROCESS. ALL OF THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE. AND IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH OUR VISION. OF THIS SUB AREA FROM THE BEGINNING. AND IF I MAY JUST TAKE A MINUTE. I'D LIKE TO UPDATE COUNCIL VERY QUICKLY ON BUELL APART. SO THE REASON WE RAISED LOT PRICES IS BECAUSE NOW THIS COMMUNITY IS COMPLETE. WE HAVE THE COLUMBUS STREET EXTENSION IS OPEN. WE HAVE THE SCULPTURE. LOOKS VERY NICE CREATES A STRONG SENSE OF IDENTITY IF YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL PART THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THE CITY. WE HAVE THE PARK AND I

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HAVE YOU KNOW THOSE PEOPLE HAVING THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE? YOU CAN ENJOY THIS.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW THAT MR SLIVA? THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT REALLY BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION TODAY REGARDING THE CUSTOM BUILT OR. THE ADVERTISING AND MARKETING FOR ALL OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT IT'S NOT. OUR JOB TO FOCUS ON THIRD PARTY MARKETING HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES SENT BY MANY MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL. WE ARE TO FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW THAT WAS WRITTEN AND PASSED, THE ORDINANCE CLEARLY SAYS. THE CUSTOM HOMES ARE TO BE ALONG B AND C, WHICH ARE YOU'LL PARK BOULEVARD AND THEN THE ROAD HEADING EAST SOUTH A BILL OR BOULEVARD ALONG THE FRONTAGE TO THE PARK. THAT IS WHAT THE TEXT SAYS. THAT THOSE FACING THE PARK OUR CUSTOM. THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. APPEAR TO BE CONSISTENT IN THE WAY WE APPLY THE LAW. WHICH I'VE HEARD EVERYONE ON THIS DAY AS A SPOUSE BEFORE. THEN WE HAVE. TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DOES NOT EXTEND TO THE CUSTOM MARKETING DOES NOT EXTEND BEYOND OUR LAW. THERE TO FOLLOW WHAT WE HAVE WRITTEN DOWN AND THAT IS IT. THANK YOU. MR SHOCKEY? UM MADAM PRESIDENT? YEAH AGAIN, SO REITERATE MY COMMENTS. WITH THE WHAT? WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DECISION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS EXACTLY THAT ABOUT. THE ABILITY OF THESE 13. PARCELS TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE ZONING TEXT. THAT SAID. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS THE MARKETING AND I'M I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.

I KNOW THAT IT IS IN OUR RESPONSIBILITY. MARKETING PRACTICES AREN'T OUR RESPONSIBILITY. I CAN'T HOLD THE HAND OF EVERY REAL ESTATE AGENT. UH, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THAT INVESTMENT HAVE ACCURATE INFORMATION AND I WILL SAY THAT I WOULD HAVE JUMPED TO THE CONCLUSION. THAT THERE ARE 84 HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE PADDOCK THAT WOULD ALL BE CUSTOM BUILT BY A BUILDER AND AN ARCHITECT DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARCEL. FOR THE PERSON WHO IS BUILDING THE HOME AND THAT IS NOT PULTE.

AND BUT THAT ISN'T NONE OF THAT SAYS I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC THAT YOU'RE APPLYING HERE, AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE STANDARDS THAT YOU'VE APPLIED. TO ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE CUSTOM HOME LOTS THAT ARE IN QUESTION AND ALSO IN HAVING PULTE. BRING A PRODUCT

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RIGHT? UM CLOSE THE COMMENTS HERE BEFORE WE GO ON THIS. GOOD. TAKE YOURSELF OVER TO PINNACLE CLUB DRIVE. COME DOWN PINNACLE CLUB DRIVE AND GO PAST THE PINNACLE CLUB GOLF COURSE AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. YOU HAVE AN MY DEVELOPMENT. AND ON THAT RIGHT HAND SIDE BORDERING THE STREET THERE IN FRONT OF THE GOLF COURSE AND THAT YOU HAVE A TRANSITION TYPE HOME.

THAT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME HOMES. EXCUSE ME SIT HER IN THE BACK ON THE STREETS BEHIND THERE ON THAT THEY ARE. WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING HERE THAT WHEN THE ZONING TEXT WAS THEORETICAL TEXT. AT THE POINT WHEN THEY DID THIS, THEY HAD NO IDEA THERE. EXCUSE ME, OTHER THAN SOME SOME CONCEPTS OF TRYING TO DO THIS THESE HOMES IN MY VIEW. OR TRANSITIONAL HOMES, JUST AS THEY PUT MY PUT TRANSITIONAL HOMES OF ALONG PINNACLE CLUB DRIVE BEFORE IT WENT INTO THE LINKS THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOMES THERE. AND CONSEQUENTLY YOU EITHER BACKING UP IN THE COMMERCIAL. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WITH WHAT THE THEORETICAL PART OF THE ZONING TEXT SAID, UH THERE ABOUT I'M CASSIDY DRIVE AND OTHER DRIVES ALONG. THE PARK THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE UPGRADED THESE BY REQUIRING BY REQUIRING BASEMENTS AND SOME OTHER AMENITIES ON THERE. BUT ONCE AGAIN, FOLKS, THESE ARE TRANSITIONAL HOMES. BORDERING INTO A COMMERCIAL AREA, SO CONSEQUENTLY SOMEONE MAY NOT BUILD CUSTOM HOME RIGHT THERE AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL ARCHITECT.

BORDERING INTO THAT SO HEAVY NET SAID ON THERE. RESOLUTIONS HAD ITS READING PUBLIC HERE AND I'M MOVING BE APPROVED AS AMENDED. MR HOLT. NO. MR BARRY. YES, FOR THESE 13. SHOCKEY? YES. MR SLAVE. OH, YES. THIS IS HELP. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. I MET HIM, PRESIDENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE THE CITY. THANK YOU, MR SHOCKEY. AND AT THIS TIME WE'LL

[Ordinance C-58-21 Authorize the Director of Public Service to enter into a Franchise Agreement with Local Waste Services, LLC for Solid Waste, Recycling and Yard Waste Collection, Transportation and Disposal. Second reading and public hearing.]

MR SMITH. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? DIFFERENT MAY SERVE. THIS IS PART OF THE BID WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK. WE WERE PART OF A CONSORTIUM BID THREE. AND WE WITH A GROUP OF THE PALETTE EASE WENT OUT FOR BID FOR BOTH THE. UM WASTE HAULING IN THE RECYCLING AGREEMENT. THIS ONE IS A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT THAT BEGINS IN JANUARY. COMING UP. UM AND. I DO NOT HAVE THE RATES IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THEY ARE MR. ROSE IS ABOUT TO JUMP IN. I JUST MIGHT MENTION AS STEPHEN SAID IT WAS A CONSORTIUM OF. SIX JURISDICTIONS THAT, UH, WACO PROVIDED THE SERVICES OF THE LAW FIRM EASTMAN AND SMITH TO HANDLE THE BID PROCESS. OUR PRESIDENT. CONTRACT EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR. AS THE DIRECTOR SAID. THIS IS FOR FIVE YEAR CONTRACTS, THOSE SIX YEARS FICTIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED. IN THIS BID PROCESS WHERE THE CITY OF GROWTH CITY HAMILTON TOWNSHIP. JACKSON TOWNSHIP, NORWICH TOWNSHIP, THE VILLAGE OF LOCK HORN IN THE VILLAGE OF URBAN CRIST. OUR PRESENT, UH, CURRENT RATE FOR A MONTHLY CHARGE IS. $14.70. FOR THE QUARTER. EXCUSE ME FOR THE MONTHLY THAT WILL JUMP TO $19.99 UNDER THIS PRESIDENT BID, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF $5.29. OR APPROXIMATELY 36. THE BID DID, UH, PROVIDE FOR A SENIOR DISCOUNT FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, 60 AND OVER 10% I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING AND EYE MOVEMENT BE APPROVED. SECOND. MR BARRY? YES SHOT KEY. YES YES, THIS IS HOW? YEAH, MR HOLE? YES. BORN IN C.

[Ordinance C-59-21 Authorize the Director of Public Service to enter into an Agreement with Rumpke of Ohio, Inc. for Acceptance and Processing of Recyclable Materials. Second reading and public hearing.]

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THIS IS TO HANDLE THE RECYCLING. THIS ONE IS INTERESTING. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, UM, YOU HAVE NOT SEEN A RECYCLING BILL AND THOSE THIS GETS PAID. DIFFERENTLY THIS IS NOT PAID BY THE RESIDENTS. THERE'S ACTUALLY A PROVISION IN HERE. IF THE. COST OF THE MATERIALS THAT COME AND EXCEED THE HAULING COST. THERE'S ACTUALLY MONEY THAT COMES BACK. NEVER HAPPENED YET, BUT I KEEP HEARING WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT TIPPING POINT WHERE IT POTENTIALLY COULD HAPPEN. HOWEVER SAME DEAL. FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT WE VISIT THROUGH THE CONSORTIUM IN ROOM KEY WAS A LITTLE BETTER ON THIS ONE. COUNCILOR MR BOZO JUST MIGHT MENTION TOO THAT, UH, UNDER THIS PROCESS, THERE WON'T BE A SEPARATE INVOICE TO THE CUSTOMERS, ONE FROM LOCAL WASTE AND ONE FROM ROOM KEY. IT'LL BE HANDLED AS IT IS NOW. THROUGH ONE BILLING PROCESS, WHICH WOULD BE LOCAL WASTE SERVICE. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING OF PUBLIC HEARING AND I MOVE IN THE APPROVED SECOND MR SHOT KEY? YES. MR SCHLEGEL? YES. THIS? HOW? YEAH. MR HOLT. YES MR BARRY? YES THAT'S ALL I HAVE A BETTER PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR BARRY. AND FINALLY FINANCE WITH

[Ordinance C-63-21 Appropriate $110,000.00 from the Convention Bureau Fund for Current Expenses. First reading.]

[Ordinance C-64-21 Appropriate $75,000.00 from the Scioto Township Joint Economic Development District Fund for the Current Expense of making payments in accordance with the JEDD Contract. First reading.]

[Resolution CR-56-21 Authorize the City Administrator to Apply for and Accept Funds through the USDA Forest Service Urban & Community Forestry Program to Restore the Urban Canopy lost from insects, disease and weather.]

[Call for New Business: Stormwater Modeling Report - Ms. Fitzpatrick]

AND SO IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE RIGHT INTO. OUR STORM WATER MODELLING REPORT. AND, UM. I WANTED TO ADD BECAUSE I HAVE A NOTE RIGHT IN MY PLACE THAT IT IS OHIO STORMWATER AWARENESS WEEK. SO THIS IS A FITTING EVENING TO HAVE THIS PRESENTATION. MR KELLER, ARE YOU GOING TO BE SPEAKING WITH US? AND A TEAM ALRIGHT, BROUGHT REINFORCEMENTS TONIGHT. SO SOUNDS EXCELLENT. SO. EACH OF YOU AS YOU SPEAK IN. YES WELL, IDENTIFY YOURSELF FROM MIKE KELLER WITH THE MHM T 5500 YOU ALL WEEK. ROAD COLUMBUS, OHIO 43054. LET ME NOT. I GOT MILES FEVER. HE'S A DRUNK. HE SERVES AS THE DIRECTOR OF WATER RESOURCES FOR YOU. MENTION T OVERSEES ALL OF ALL OF OUR STORM WATER EFFORTS AND THEN PROJECT ENGINEER MOUNT STECHSCHULTE IS HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF PRESENT THE FINDINGS OVER THE PAST 15 MONTHS OR SO. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION. ON EVALUATING FLOODING EVENTS THAT YOU KNOW. MARCH 2020 IS YOU KNOW IT'S A CODED. WE HAD SOME LARGE EVENTS,

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WE CREATED A HYDRAULIC MODEL, AND THEN WE WERE. WE DID KIND OF A STRESS TEST WE RAN DIFFERENT DIFFERENT MODELS. DIFFERENT RAIN EVENTS TO SEE. HOW THE SYSTEM WAS PERFORMING, BECAUSE WHAT? WELL WHAT WE SAW IS THESE ACTIVITIES WERE OCCURRING IN THE AREAS OF TOWN.

NO WHICH WERE BUILT PRE 1960. SO IT'S THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEIR DESIGN STANDARDS AREN'T WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO WE WANTED TO VERIFY HOW THE SYSTEM PERFORMING. IDENTIFIED LOCATIONS WHERE THERE MAY BE DEFICIENCIES AND START EVALUATING ALTERNATIVES GOING FORWARD. SO KIND OF THE OBJECTIVES AGAIN LOOKING TO EVALUATE THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE, AND I THINK, IN ADDITION STORE LARGER IMAGE WAS THE FLOOD ROUTING. YOU KNOW WHAT WE SEE WHAT THE BLOOD IN THE PONDING ON THE STREETS. ONE OF THINGS WE WORKED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HOLT WAS IDENTIFYING THAT. YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT FLOOD ROUTING IS WHAT WE DESIGNED FOR, BUT WHEN DOES IT BECOME AN ISSUE? SO WE KIND OF SAID SOME THRESHOLD REGARDING IF THAT PONDING IN THE STREETS IS OVER THREE HOURS AFTER THE RAIN EVENT NOW THOSE ARE AREAS THAT WE WANT TO FLAG. MAKE SURE THOSE AREAS OF DRAINING. SO WITH THE STUDY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CHARACTERIZE THE RAINFALL EVENTS WE'RE SEEING, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN CAUSES. EVALUATE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CITY'S STORMWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM. EVALUATE THE FLOOD ROUTING THAT WAS EITHER DESIGNED OR HOW THE SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY OPERATING. AND THEN COMPARE THE OBSERVED AND THE MODERN RESULTS AND THEN A POUND WORK THROUGH ALTERNATIVE THERE. SO FROM THERE, WE CAN PRIORITIZE THE DEFICIENCIES OR WHAT WE SEE AND THEN MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF ANY LOCAL REGIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO TAMMY NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO. WHAT THE FOCUS AREA STUDIES ON WHAT WE FOCUSED ON WAS A STUDY HERE THAT CONSISTS OF GROSS CITY CREEK AND WEST WATER RUNS TO THE AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN THE EXHIBIT. ON YOUR SCREEN TO PROBABLY FOUR SQUARE MILES. UM AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I ALWAYS CALLED OLD GROUP CITY. ORVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPANY BEHIND CITY HALL. UM BUT THAT THAT IS THE STUDY OR WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE FLOODING IS FOCUSED. UM. SO THAT'S AND LOOKING AT THE RAIN EVENT THAT WE HAD IN MARCH AND SOME THE PREVIOUS ONES FROM FROM. UM 2015 AND BEYOND. THOSE WERE KIND OF THE KEY AREAS, SO THAT IS OUR STUDY AREA. UM NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF THESE CITIES ACTIVE INVESTMENTS. UH YOU KNOW, I THINK I'D BE REMISS TO NOT POINT OUT IN THE SLIDES I'VE SHARED WITH COUNCIL OVER THE PAST YEAR. UM, WITH MR FITZPATRICK. THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT. NOW WE'RE GOING THE CITY'S INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY IS VERY ACTIVE. WITH A STORM. OUR SYSTEM COLLECTION SYSTEM IS AND HOW YOU MAINTAIN IT, UM, IS CRITICAL. AND SO THE CITY IS VERY ACTIVE WITH THEIR CLEANING INSPECTION. UM ROUTE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PREVENT ANYTHING THAT COULD BLOCK OR INHIBIT STORM OUR DRAINAGE FROM THE AREA ON THE LAST ITEM ON THAT LIST, THE SANITARY SEWER BACKUP PREVENTER PROGRAM. YOU KNOW THE 22 MAIN ISSUES THAT WEEK THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THESE LARGE RAIN EVENTS. STREET FLOODING WHAT WE CALL URBAN FLOODING AND THEN THE WATER AND BASEMENTS, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT REALLY IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS. THE WATER IN BASEMENTS BACKFLOW PREVENTER PROGRAM, WHICH THE CITY HAS ENACTED THIS YEAR. I'M REALLY IS. SET TO ADDRESS THAT WATER BASEMENT ISSUE, SO WE'VE GOT THAT PROGRAM. IT'S BEEN MOVING FORWARD WHEN WE'RE PLANNING ON FUNDING IT GOING FORWARD. UM NEXT SLIDE. IN ADDITION TO THE MAINTENANCE, WE'VE ALSO HAVE SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL PROJECTS, BOTH IN THE SANITARY IN STORM. WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER AGAIN.

IT'S NOT AN AREA THAT'S THAT'S NOT BEEN UM IDENTIFIED UM. FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND I THINK OVER THE YEARS AND WE'VE BEEN VERY STRATEGIC, ESPECIALLY WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. ON ON CAPTURING ADDITIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH COLUMBUS TREE UM, WHEN WE DID THAT EXTENSION WE DID. PERVERSITIES DESIGN MANUAL UNDERGROUND STORE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOR THAT RUN OFF, BUT IN A VISION THAT WE ACTUALLY GET OUT AND GET SOME EXTRA STORMWATER MANAGEMENT JUST TO KIND OF CAPTURE AND TRY TO ATTENUATE. SOME OF THOSE DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS. SO WHERE WE WHERE WE CAN IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES? THE CITY HAS BEEN INVESTING IN THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES. YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS OCCURRED WITHIN THE VIOLA OR THE BROOK PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ALL THAT. THE CITY HAS OUR STORM WATER DESIGN MANUAL. SO WE HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE TO AT THOSE NEW

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WE'VE KIND OF EXPANDED THRESHOLDS FOR THE STUDY SO WE CAN MAKE SURE. INVESTMENTS THAT WERE WE PROPOSE ARE BEING PUT IN THE RIGHT PLACES. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER THE MATH REAL QUICK. THANKS MIKE. UM SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ON THE SLIDE FIVE ITEMS THAT. A TRIBUTE TO FLYING SO THE FIRST WOULD BE THE RING OF THAT'S HOW MUCH RAIN ARE YOU GETTING? IS THAT A SEVERE EVENT OR IS IT A DRIZZLE? STORM SEWER CAPACITY, SO THAT'S TALKING ABOUT IS THE OR THE PIPES LARGE ENOUGH TO CONVEY THAT WATER DOWNSTREAM. ANTI SEEDING CONDITIONS. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS IN THE EARLY SPRING WHEN THE GROUND IS STILL FROZEN. UH THERE'S NOT AS MUCH CAPABILITY FOR WATER TO INFILTRATE INTO THE SOIL SO YOU CAN SEE A LOT MORE OF THAT.

ROADWAYS. STRENGTH SO AREAS ADJACENT TO STREAMS ARE GOING TO SEE FLOODING MORE FREQUENTLY THAN AREAS THAT ARE NOT. AND MAINTENANCE, BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC. SO AS MIKE ALLUDED TO ON AN EARLIER SLIDE, THE CITY IS ACTIVELY MAINTAINED THIS STORM SEWER SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY. UM AND THEN FOR PRIVATE MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD BE. HOMEOWNERS MAINTAINING THEIR DOWN SPELLS THINGS OF THAT NATURE. RAINFALL EVENTS SHOWN HERE. A FEW OF THE MORE SEVERE RAINFALL EVENTS WITHIN RECENT YEARS. UM AND THEN. THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION, YOU'LL HEAR US REFER TO DESIGN STORM SO I MAY SAY, FIVE YEARS EVENT OR A 10 YEAR EVENTS. WHAT THAT IS, IS A REPRESENTATION OF HOW FREQUENTLY. YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO WITNESS THAT RAIN EVENT. SO WE FIVE YEAR EVENT YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE THAT AT LEAST ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU WON'T EXPERIENCE MORE. MANY CASES YOU DO END UP EXPERIENCING MORE THAN ONCE ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS. UM SO IN THIS SLIDE, WE HAVE SOME PICTURES OF FLOODING ON FRONT STREET AND BROADWAY DURING THE MARCH 20TH 2020. A BOUNCE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT EVENTS THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY. WE ALSO SHOW A TABLE HERE THAT SHOWS THAT THE CITY HAS ABSOLUTELY THEN SEEING, UH SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS IN THE PROJECT AREA. SO OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS, THERE'S BEEN 3 25. WHICH IS ALMOST FOUR INCHES OF RAINFALL OVER 12 HOUR PERIOD. NEXT LIFE. THE STORM WATER COLLECTION SYSTEM.

ANOTHER ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT I MENTIONED PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN FLOODING. UM SO THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AREA, THE THIS ONE SEWER IS RELATIVELY ALL CONSTRUCTED IN THE 19 SIXTIES. UM SO WE LOOKED AT WHETHER THE PIPES WERE LARGE ENOUGH TO CONVEY THE WATER WHETHER IT WAS SURFACE FLOODING. UM. STAND ALSO REITERATING THE POINT OF THE CITY IS MAINTAINING THIS SYSTEM. PROPERTY OWNERS ARE SPONSORING FOR MAINTAINING THE ANY STORM SEWER CONVENIENCE SYSTEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR LOTS. CLEAN FLOODING. UM SO WESTWATER RUN HAS A FLOODPLAIN THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THROUGH FEMALE. ANYTHING WITHIN THIS BOUNDARY WOULD BE EXPECTED TO EXPERIENCE FLOODING MORE FREQUENTLY. UM. WITHIN THIS BOUNDARY. THERE ARE 137 BUILDINGS THAT ARE WITH WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN ACROSS THE PROJECT AREA. SO AREAS THAT ARE WEST OF HOOVER ROAD. AND TODAY WITHIN THIS ONE WATER DRAINAGE MANUAL, THE CITY HAS A STREAM COURT OR PROTECTION ZONE POLICY, SO BUILDINGS WITHIN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE STREAM WOULD NOT HAPPEN UNDER MY ARRANGEMENT OR REGULATIONS. NEXT. UM AND SO THIS THIS IS A PIVOTAL SLIDE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, TEXTS, BUT WE WILL GO THROUGH EACH ONE

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SO WE'VE SET THAT THRESHOLD AT THREE HOURS OR MORE. AND THEN LEVEL ONE IS STRUCTURAL FLOODING. UM, SO UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, THE GOAL IS TO MINIMIZE ANY STRUCTURAL ISSUES THAT WOULD BE. FLOODING DUE TO ANY UNDERSIZED STORM SEWER. SO THE STANDARD OPERATIONS SO THIS TABLE HERE ON THE BOTTOM IS DESCRIBES WHAT THESE WOMEN ARE. DRAINAGE MEETING REGULATIONS ARE FOR RESIDENTIAL ROADWAYS. AND THEN FOR YOUR LARGE ROADWAYS, YOUR COLLECTOR SECONDARY ARTERIAL. AS I MENTIONED THE RESIDENTIAL ROADWAYS IS DESIGNED TO HAVE WATER IN THE SYSTEM FOR A FIVE YEAR EVENT, SO YOU SHOULDN'T BE SEEN WATER. ON THE ROAD SURFACE. AND THEN FOR THE COLLECTIVE ROADWAYS THAT IS INCREASED TO A 10 YEAR. UM, THE PICTURE IN THE UPPER LEFT. IS ILLUSTRATING THIS SO. FOR THE COLUMNIST IS FULLY CONTAINED IN THE STORM PIPE THAT IS DEMONSTRATED IN THE BLUE LINE AND THEN FOR, UH. FOR WATER IN THE SYSTEM THAT'S DEMONSTRATED BY THE PINK LOCK. SO WHAT ARE THE COLLECTOR ROADWAYS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AREA AS OPPOSED TO THE LOCAL ROADWAYS. THIS IMAGE SHOWS, UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROJECT AREA AND THE ROADWAY SHOWN IN YELLOW. HERE ARE YOUR COLLECTOR ROADWAYS, HER SECONDARY ARTERIAL ROADWAYS THAT WOULD BEAT THAT 10 YEAR DESIGN STANDARDS. THE REMAINING ROADWAYS IN HERE ARE. FLOOD ROUTING. SO THIS IS FLOOD RIDING ACROSS SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. UM. EASY TO AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THIS IS NOT FUNCTIONING AS DESIGNED. BUT IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES, THIS IS FUNCTIONING AS DESIGNED.

EVENTUALLY, THE SOME OF THAT WILL BE. IT IS TOO LARGE. AND THIS THIS IS MEANT TO GET WATER.

UM DOWNSTREAM BACK INTO THE CHANNEL. URBAN FLOODING. THIS IS ALONG FRONT STREET. UM. SO THIS THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE WATER MAY BE PRESENT WITHIN THE ROADWAYS FOR MORE THAN THREE HOURS, BUT THIS PHOTO IS DEMONSTRATING THAT IT IS NOT IMPACTING BUILDINGS SO IT DOESN'T RAISE TO A LEVEL ONE CONCERN. AND THEN STRUCTURAL FLOODING, SO THIS IMAGE WAS PULLED FROM THE WEB. IT'S NOT A PICTURE THAT WE FOUND IN GROVE CITY, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE. UM BUT HOW WE'VE IDENTIFIED STRUCTURAL FLOODING IS ANY FLOODING THAT WOULD BE EXPERIENCED BY WATER COMING INTO A BUILDING THE WINDOW OR A DOOR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM SO. WATERING BASEMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS THE SANITARY SEWER BACKUP PREVENTION PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES. UM BUT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE UNDERSIZED SIR COLLECTION SYSTEM. THE FIVE YEAR RESULTS. SO THIS IS GETTING INTO OUR FINDINGS. UM WHAT WE FOUND IS FOR THE LOCAL ROADWAYS. THE FIVE YEAR DESIGN. THERE ARE TWO LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AREA. DON'T MEET THOSE CRITERIA. AND SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD. THAT'S BETTER THAN WHAT I EXPECTED. GOING INTO THIS AS I MENTIONED, UM, THE SPONSOR OR THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AREA. THE BULK OF THAT IS. CONSTRUCTED PART OF THE 19 SIXTIES. UM SO FOR ONLY TWO LOCATIONS, NOT MEETING THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS. THAT'S THAT'S REALLY GOOD. UM THOSE TWO LOCATIONS ARE SECURITY DRIVING LAROSA. AND SO THE COURT. FOR

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IS THE FLOODING AT METAL LANE. UM SO THIS RED ARROW IS MEANT TO INDICATE THAT. ANY SURFACE FLOODING THAT HAPPENS AT THIS LOCATION. UM BLOOD ROUTES ACROSS BROADWAY, BROADWAY TO THE LOTS. UM BREATH. ROADWAYS UM, SO THAT IN ORDER TO ADDRESS FLOODING AT THOSE ROADWAYS, UM YOU REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS FLOODING AT MEDDLING. 100 YEAR STORM EVENT. UM. SO THE EXTENT OF THE FLOODING IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO THE 25 YEAR PLAN, BUT WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IS THE DEPTHS ARE LARGER. TOM. AND THE WHAT WE CAN SAY IS THAT THE CITY HAS AN EXPERIENCED 100 YEAR ABOUT. THIS IS A VERY LARGE EVENT. IT'S FIVE INCHES OF RAIN OVER A 12 HOUR PERIOD.

UM BUT WHAT WE CAN SAY FROM THIS MAP IS THERE THERE MAY BE BUILDINGS AND THAT SINCE YOUR TOWN CENTRE AREA THAT WOULD BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO FLOODING IN A SEVERE THAT. AND I WILL HAND IT OVER TO YOU MILES HEBREW TO GO OVER EVALUATION AND DISCUSS PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT. AT. SO YOU'VE UP TO THIS POINT HEARD A LOT OF CONTEXT ABOUT OUR METHODS ARE PRACTICE. OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE BELIEVE THE DEFICIENCY OR DEFICIENCIES ARE IN THE CITY STORM SYSTEM.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO REITERATE WHAT THAT SAID EARLIER THAT THE GOOD NEWS IS THOSE ARE ISOLATED AREAS. I DID WANT TO EMPHASIZE A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS, SO YOU UNDERSTAND OUR RATIONALE. IN OUR CONTINUING STUDY TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVES TO RE MEDIATE STORM WATER FLOODING.

YOU'VE HEARD THE TERM A COUPLE OF TIMES HERE. URBAN FLOODING. WE'RE TRYING TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT MOST COMMUNITIES. HAVE A SIMILAR PROBLEM, AND YOU'RE OLDER URBAN AREAS NOT BUILT TO YOUR CURRENT DESIGN STORM STANDARDS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FLOODING. IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT IS A REASONABLE SOLUTION TO ADDRESS THAT? URBAN STORMWATER SYSTEM SOLUTIONS, OFTEN A VERY DISRUPTIVE TO OTHER EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S DEFINITELY WARRANTED AND WILL PROVIDE. NECESSARY BENEFITS. ANOTHER KEY POINT IS THAT YOU SAW A SLIDE ABOUT FAMOUS WHAT PLAN AND THE NUMBER STRUCTURES. ALONG WEST WATER RATHER IN THAT FLOOD POINT.

IT'S NOT QUITE FRANKLY, OUR GOAL TODAY TO RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT YOU GET ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE THE FLOODPLAIN THAT'S QUITE FRANKLY IMPOSSIBLE. SO WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT HERE TO RECOMMEND THAT TO YOU TODAY. THE TABLE THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, IS US STARTING TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO EMPHASIZE OR PRIORITIZE RECOMMEND SOLUTIONS TO STORM WATER SYSTEM. YOU'VE HEARD ALL OF THESE NAMES. THESE LOCATIONS REFERENCE PREVIOUSLY. AND IN THAT FIRST OR I'LL SAY SECOND COLUMN. UH NO. IT HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION. WE'RE SAYING TO YOU THAT THOSE LOCATIONS DO NOT MEET THE CITY'S STORMWATER DRAINAGE MAY NOT REQUIREMENTS. NOW WE UNDERSTAND AGAIN. THAT MAY NOT BE THE BAR YOU WANT TO SET BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS OLDER URBAN INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THE SECOND OR THIRD COLUMN. EXCUSE ME. IS NOW ANOTHER QUALIFIER. NOW THE NO. IS AN AFFIRMATIVE.

IT'S IN A POSITIVE BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE ASKING OURSELVES IS THIS PROBLEM CAUSING US CONCERN TO THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, WHETHER IT'S. THE ABILITY TO NAVIGATE STREETS OR THE POSSIBILITY OF STRUCTURAL FLOODING. SO THAT WAS THE TEST.

IN THAT THIRD COLUMN. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN TWO OF THOSE LOCATIONS WERE SAYING YES, WE

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WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT MODERATE. THIS LOCATION IS VERY INTERESTING ONE AND THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TODAY TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT WE KNOW. THAT IT HAS VEXED THE CITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME BECAUSE IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. IT IS SORTA COURT EXTENSION OF SORT OF. UH DR WEST OF EXCUSE ME EAST OF HAN ROAD, AND BASICALLY THE LAST STORM WANT TO RUN OFF THAT WANTS TO COLLECT IN THAT COLD SACK BULB. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN REPEATED IN SIGNIFICANT SURFACE FLOODING THERE. THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THERE'S REALLY NO PLACE FOR THE WATER TO GO RIGHT NOW. THE STORM SEWER SYSTEM IS DISCHARGING OR ATTEMPTING TO DISCHARGE TO A SMALL CHANNEL JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT CALLED A SACK. UM THAT CALLED THIS THAT WATERCOURSE IS IMPAIRED ON MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. AND UNFORTUNATELY THE OUTFALL IS BLOCKED AS A RESULT OF THAT. SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF MAYBE EXTENDING THE OUTFALL TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION. DOING WORK DIRECTLY IN THE CHANNEL OR COMBINATION OF BOTH. UM AND WE'RE STILL COLLECTING A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A MORE DEFINITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY. WE THINK WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. WE HAVE OFFERED A PROJECT COST OF $400,000. BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW TO DATE. WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD APPROXIMATE NUMBER BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP. UM AND OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION, OF COURSE, WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY AND OUR IN OUR REPORT. THERE IS A SOLUTION. IT'S JUST THAT THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO TO THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'VE TALKED MOSTLY ABOUT THOSE LOCAL STORM SERVERS EAST

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UNFORTUNATELY IT DID NOT YIELD THE RESULTS THAT WE WERE EXPECTING. AND WHEN WE EVALUATED THOSE BENEFITS, INCREMENTAL BENEFITS AGAINST COST, UH, WE HAVE RECOMMENDED NOT PURSUING THAT. OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE DETAIL IN THE REPORT REGARDING THAT, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT CONCLUSION HERE TONIGHT. SO THEN WE HAVE MOVED ON TO ANOTHER LOCATION, WHICH IS PROVING TO YIELD A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE WERE EXPECTING FROM STORMWATER DETENTION. AND YOU SEE A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS START NOW. SO NOW WE ARE. DIRECTLY IN THE GROCERY CREEK WATERSHED. WE ALONG GREW CITY ROAD. WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODING ALONG GROWTH, CITY ROAD FRONT STREET AND JOINING STREETS. SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD ATTACK THAT ISSUE DIRECTLY WITHIN THAT IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING WATERSHED. AND WE EVALUATED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AS YOU CAN SEE, GENERALLY NOTED BY THE STARS. THIS IS NOT LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY. SO THESE THESE SOLUTIONS WOULD REQUIRE LAND ACQUISITION IN ADDITION TO THE COST, OF COURSE OF BUILDING THE STORMWATER DETENTION BASED ON THAT WERE RECOMMENDED. UM, BUT THESE. DETENTION BASINS HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT ON THE DOWNSTREAM FLOODING. THE LONGER SHE RODE ALONG FRONT STREET AND WITHIN THE TOWN CENTRE. SO THEY'RE KEEPING THAT WATER FROM? YES, I HAVE. WELL. IT'S AH, THE HATCHING THAT YOU SEE THE SHADING UP THERE. DO YOU KNOW ITS WATERSHED BOUNDARIES? SO THE YELLOWISH SHADE IS WESTWATER ON. THE FLOW IS GOING FROM WEST TO EAST AND WEST WATER ON I HOPE I'M ASKING YOUR QUESTION. UM AND SO AND THEN THE REDDISH PALE, REDDISH SHADED AREA IS WATER THAT GETS INTO GROSS CITY CREEK FIRST.

GOES THROUGH THE TOWN CENTRE AND THEN JOINS WESTWATER RUN AT BROADWAY. EITHER IS GOOD. YEAH.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I'LL CLARIFY ONE THING. WE'RE NOT REALLY MOVING THE WATER WHERE TWO WERE INTERCEPTING IT, WHERE IT ALREADY IS. WELL WE WERE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED IN THESE DETENTION BASINS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S WHERE THE WATER WANTS TO BE. BUT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT IT STAYS THERE. IT'S HELD THERE FOR LONGER SO THAT THE DOWNSTREAM STORM SYSTEM AND THEN HANDLE THE WATER THAT'S RELEASED SLOWLY. UH, WE HAVE TO. UM WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS. ONE

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IT IS OUR BEST LOCATION IN TERMS OF WHERE THE WATER WANTS TO BE HOW WE CAN INTERCEPT IT AND THEN DETAIN IT. HOLD IT. RELEASE IT SLOWLY. UM. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A COST ESTIMATE ESTIMATE UP THERE. AH, WE ARE STILL EVALUATING THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD BALLPARK NUMBER. BETWEEN 5.56 POINT FIVE MILLION. AGAIN. ATLANTA ACQUISITION IS REQUIRED. HELP. UM THE SITE OF THE EAST AGAIN PROPERTY FOR SALE THE OTHER SIDE. NOT FOR SALE. RIGHT? UH, EXCUSE ME, MR BARRY. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK WITH YOU, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE. SO OTHERS ONLINE TO HEAR YOU. SO HOW BIG IS THAT OTHER SITE TO THE WEST WEST.

IT'S PROBABLY SIMILAR IN LAND FOOTPRINT. I BELIEVE THAT LAND IS ACTUALLY IN THE TOWNSHIP.

AND IT'S AN AGRICULTURAL USE. WAS THIS. THE TOTAL COST FOR BOTH LOCATIONS ARE ONE OF THOSE STARS. YES, ONE. WE ONLY NEED ONE. WE LOOKED AT TWO DIFFERENT YES. SORRY FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. ONE OF THEM IS DEFINITELY EASIER TO DEAL WITH AND THE OTHER ONE. SO WE WANTED TO SHARE EVERYTHING. WOLF WE'VE SEEN AS AN OUTCOME OF THIS DETENTION BASIN. YOU'VE HEARD US SAY IT WORKS. SO HERE'S AN ILLUSTRATION OF THAT. I'M A LEFT IS ONE OF THE SLIDES YOU'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY FOR THE 25 YEAR EVENT, THE INUNDATION AREA. AND I'LL REITERATE ANOTHER THING THAT WHAT YOU HEARD, MATT SAY EARLIER. OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THIS AREA IS THE 25 YEAR DESIGN STORM BECAUSE THIS IS A CULVERT, A CULVERT ON A COLLECTIVE STREET.

SO WE ARE APPLYING THE CITY'S STRANGE MANUAL CRITERIA WHERE WE'RE ALSO APPLYING THAT HIGHER STANDARD OF. IF IT FLOODS HERE, DO WE PERCEIVE THEIR THE BUILT THE POSSIBILITY OF. HEALTH SAFETY WELFARE IMPACTS DUE TO THE EXTENSIVE FLOOD. UM SO THAT THE TOTAL AREA FLOODING ALMOST 22 ACRES. REALIZING THAT SOME OF THAT IS FAIRLY SHALLOW YOU'VE GOT GREATER THAN A FOOT OF FLOODING IS ALMOST 10 ACRES UNDER EXISTING CONDITIONS TODAY, IF YOU WERE TO HAVE 25 YEAR EVENT. TRANSITION TO PROPOSE CONDITIONS AND YOU KNOW WE DIDN'T DOCTOR. THIS SLIDE.

THERE IS LITERALLY ZERO OR NO FLOODING. AT LEAST IN THE AREA OF GROWTH CITY ROAD IN FRONT STREET. THE RESIDUAL FLOODING IS UP THERE AT METAL LANE. THAT'S THAT'S THE RESIDUAL FLOODING. WE HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. BENEFICIAL IMPACT ON THAT YOU CAN AGAIN YOU CAN COMPARE THE TWO SLIDES. UP THERE METAL LINE WHERE MATT TALKED ABOUT THE FLUTTER, ADDING THAT ACTUALLY CROSSES BROAD. BROADWAY SO EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T COMPLETELY GET RID OF THAT WE CAME, WE CAME PRETTY DARN CLOSE. DOING THAT, WITH DETENTION LONGER CITIGROUP. SO ONCE THE ONCE THE LEG OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT TO CALL IT IS FILLED. DOES THAT WANT TO RUN SOUTH ALONG 62. WHERE DOES IT GO? FROM THERE? IT WAS STILL OUTLET TO THE SAME PLACE. IT GOES NOW. JUST A LOT SLOWER. WHERE WOULD AN OUTLET TO? I MEAN, WHAT DOES IT GO DOWN THAT STREAM OR YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE WATER BASICALLY STREAMS OF BRINGING THE WATER TO US. AND THEN WE PUT IT BACK IN THE STREAM OVER GOT IT. SO TECHNICALLY, WE'RE NOT DIVERTING THE WATER FLOW AT ALL. WE'RE JUST RETAINING SOME OF IT TO SLOW IT DOWN TO. I MEAN, IF I MIGHT ASK A QUESTION, SURE. SPEAKING OF STREAMS. MANY OF OUR STREAMS GOING DOWN THROUGH THERE HAVE NOT BEEN CLEANED IN A LONG TIME AS FAR AS THE GROWTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I

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GENERALLY WE DISCOURAGE, UM, TAKING AN EXISTING CHANNEL AND TRY TO MAKE IT A LOT WIDER FOR PURPOSES OF FLOOD CONTROL. IT DOESN'T LIKE THAT. UM YOU'RE GONNA YOU'RE GOING TO FIND YOURSELF IN THERE EVERY YEAR, TRYING TO KEEP IT THAT WIDE. IT'S JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO FILL IN WITH SEDIMENT. UM AND THERE'S A LOT OF PERMANENT COMPLICATIONS WITH THAT. AND I'M NOT SAYING NEVER DO IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, UM LOOK AT LONG AND HARD BEFORE WE RECOMMEND IT. UM OUR GOAL HERE WAS TO ADDRESS STORM WATER FLOODING IN INTERNET OFF OF THE CHANNEL, KNOWING THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE AN EXISTING FLOODPLAIN DISAPPEARED. SO I THINK WE COULD AND WE'LL DISCUSS IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. INSPECTIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THE CHANNEL. BECAUSE I AGREE AT THAT POINT WHOLEHEARTEDLY KEEP IT CLEAN. BUT I DON'T THINK RECOMMENDING A VAST WHITING OF IT IS GOING TO BE A GOOD WHY WASN'T EVEN RECOMMENDED TALKING ABOUT A WIDENING I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN PONDS, SUCCESSION, I'M ASSUMED STREAMS HAVE SUCCESSION TO WHERE THEY BUILT WHERE THEY FILL IN. AND THE AMOUNT OF BIOMASS, UH, SLOWS THE WATER DOWN, RIGHT? DOWN THERE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO. YEAH, AND. DOING THAT ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT DOING IT SO UNDER THE GUISE OF, UH, THE FACT THAT IT'S PART OF THE CITY'S DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK COULD BE DISCUSSED. THANK YOU. UM THIS IS KIND OF PART TWO TO THE SLIDE THAT YOU SAW JUST A MOMENT AGO. WE JUST NOW FOCUSED IN ON THAT METAL LIGHT AREA BECAUSE YOU SAW SOME PRETTY DRAMATIC PHOTOS THAT EARLIER WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. IT CAN HAPPEN AGAIN. IT WILL. UM WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MITIGATED THAT WITH THE GROCERY ROAD DETENTION BASINS, SO NOT ONLY ARE YOU ADDRESSING FLOODING IMMEDIATELY IN THAT ONE AREA WHERE THE DETENTION BASIN IS.

YOU'RE GETTING THIS ANCILLARY BENEFIT UP AT METAL LANE. WE HAVE FOUND NO OTHER SOLUTION FROM FOR MIDDLE LENGTH OTHER THAN THAT. UM IT'S JUST WHERE IT SETS TO YOUR GRAPHICALLY.

AND THE FACT THAT WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS WATER RUN. YOU SAW THE BREATH COMMUNITY PARK AND COULDN'T FIX IT THERE. WE CAN'T JUST OPEN UP. OPEN UP A BUNCH OF CULVERTS ALONG WEST WATER RUN AND SEND THAT WATER RUSHING DOWNSTREAM SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO UM, WE HAVE NO OTHER SOLUTION, BUT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED. THAT WOULD BENEFIT THIS. THIS AREA'S WORLD. UM SCIENCE AND BIG PICTURE, SUMMARY AND DISCUSSION ITEMS HERE. BUT AGAIN, I'LL PAUSE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS LIKES. JUST. SO JUST, UM. THE WATER THAT'S FURTHER WEST OF WEST GROVE. UM I KNOW IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM YET. BUT SOMEDAY IT WILL BE. SO PROPER PLANNING AND IDEAS. UM IN THAT AREA, TOO. WHERE HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE RETENTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT WEST OF ROSE CITY, AND THAT TYPE OF THING IS ALSO A CONCERN. SO KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD. THAT WE GOT TO BE FORWARD THINKING AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE WEST OF US A GREAT. I THINK THERE MAY BE A BULL ABOUT THAT IN HERE. I THINK WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY. TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CURRENT STANDARDS WHICH ARE VERY GOOD. ARE MAINTAINED AND FOLLOWED, AND IF NEEDED IMPROVED APART, SO I THINK THAT WOULD HELP YOU IN ADDRESSING THAT CONCERN. IN LANES CHEAPER TODAY THAN IT WILL BE TOMORROW. THAT'S MY POINT IS, IF WE'RE LOOKING PROACTIVELY AT THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY. MHM. YES. UM, JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THE EXPENSES FOR URBAN FLOODING BACK ON SECURITY AND THE ROSA AND SOME OF THOSE. 400,000 WHATEVER AND COLUMBUS STREET. THOSE WERE IF YOU JUST DID A, UH, JUST THE INSTALLATION OF. THE SOLUTION THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY HADN'T SYLAR VERY CAUSE OF MOVING UTILITY POLES OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT HAVE TO HAPPEN

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MUCH GREATER THAN OURS HERE, AND I'VE NOTICED THAT THE STREETS ARE DESIGNED JUST AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT THEY FLOWED FROM THE CURB OUT. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THAT CROWN PART OF IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, AND THEN THEY DRAIN IS FLAT AS IT IS THERE. THEY DRAIN OUT WITHIN TWO HOURS. OKAY LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIS. I REMEMBER LOTS DRIVE AND BRECK AND BACK IN THERE. UM I BELIEVE I HAVEN'T WALKED BACK IN THERE LATELY, BUT I THOUGHT THOSE STREETS WERE RELATIVELY FLAT. PARTICULARLY LIKE LOTS DRIVE AND, UH, THAT THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE CROWNED AT ALL. IS THAT MIGHT DO YOU REMEMBER OR ANYBODY HELP ME OUT ON THAT? BECAUSE IT'S ONLY THERE WAS SOMEONE ON THE DADS WHO DROVE THAT STREET EVERY DAY. YES IT IS IT CROWNED ON THERE. THERE'S A SMALL CROWNS BUT AGAIN WITH THAT AREA, SOME OF THE GRADING OF THOSE ROADS SINCE THEY'RE SO CLOSE TO FLIPPING THE STREAMS. THAT WHOLE AREA IS GENERALLY FLAT AND THE ROADS ARE GENERALLY. YOU CAN'T CROWN TOO MUCH. JUST COULD YOU CROWN THOSE STREETS AND HELP WITH FLOODING. THE FLOODING IN THE STREET IS NOT THE SAME BOILING WATER JUST PUSHING THE WATER IN THE STREET ON RIGHT, BUT PEOPLE WON'T BE DRIVING. THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE WATER THEY HAVE A DRY SPOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, AND IT'S GOING TO HER BABY. THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO EVALUATE IT BASED OFF THAT THREE HOUR KNOWN THAT IF IT DOES FLOOD, HOW DEEP IS IT GOING TO BE? IT'S NOT GOING DEEPER THAN A CURB SIX INCHES.

I'M IN THOSE AREAS. UM YOU KNOW AGAIN WHEN WE DO OUR STREET PROGRAMS, WE DO EVALUATE WEARY PROFILE ROADS, BUT AGAIN WITH THAT WATER IF YOU TAKE IT FROM THE CENTER, IT'S PUSHING IT OUT SO THAT YOU HAVE BEEN CUT. UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. YOU CAN PUSH IT ONTO THE SIDEWALKS AND CLOSURE TO RESIDENTS, WHICH MEANS SO NOW YOU'RE FEELING CONTAINING IT IN A FLAT AREA.

24 FT. CORRECT. MHM. YOU WALK A LOT OF THOSE AREAS WHEN WE'RE CLOSE TO STRINGER TO YOU THAT THE STREAM INNOVATION BACKS UP. CREAM INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON THOSE ROADS, TOO. SO EVEN IF THE WATER IS COMING FROM THE RAIN EVENT, YOU'VE GOT THE STRING BACKING UP. SO IT'S A IT'S A DYNAMIC EFFORT WHEN WE DID OUR MODEL, AND WE KIND OF DID NOT STRAIN MAULING IN CONJUNCTION TO THIS STORM SOURCE. TO LOOK AT THOSE IMPACTS. SO I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY AS WE SHOW THOSE AREAS OR SOMEBODY'S FLOODING ISSUES OCCUR. WE WENT, DEVELOP THEM LIKE THAT TODAY. UM, THEY WOULD BE IN THE STEERING QUARTER PROTECTION ZONE BECAUSE OF JUST HOW HOW THAT DRAINAGE WORKS. SO SO IT'S NOT INSIDE WORTH IT TO MODIFY THE STREET.

DO ANYTHING THAT WAY? NO I MEAN IT'S NO. YOU TELL ALL THESE URBAN FLOODING AREAS FLOOD ROUTING ISSUE. YOU'RE INTO THIS SITUATION. HOW DO YOU GET THE WATER BACK TO THE STREAM AND YOU START LOOKING AT WHERE THE FLOODING IS TO THE STREAM, AND IT'S PURCHASING PROPERTIES. ITS PURCHASING EASEMENTS AGAIN. WHEN ONE OF OUR BEST FRIEND IN THE TOWN CENTRES REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEN WE CAN KIND OF WORK WITH THOSE ON THE PLACEMENT OF FLOODING ON IT. TO TRY TO GET THAT STORM WATER TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. BUT AGAIN, IT'S AS YOU SAW IN A FEW OF THOSE OPTIONS. IT'S THE LAND ACQUISITION. GETTING BACK THOSE CHALLENGES. SOMETIMES I CURE IS MORE PAINFUL. AND THEN AND THEN THE FLOODING THAT YOU GET EVERY FIVE YEARS AGAIN. NOT LOOKING BACK AT WHAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WE'VE HAD THREE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EVENTS BUT AGAIN. THAT'S WHERE I THINK WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, MAKING SURE RECORDING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT THOSE IMPACTS WOULD BE ON THE FRONT AND YOU'VE HAD 75 YEAR EVENTS. IT'S THANKS FINE. THANK YOU. UM ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS TO SHOCK YOU FOR BRINGING UP MY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I LIVED JUST OFF OF LOTS DRIVE. UM AND I KNOW WHAT THE TWO VERY LARGE RARE EVENTS THE MARCH 20TH. AND THEN WHEN HURRICANE IDA CAME THROUGH. I KNOW THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN HIGH WATER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GENERAL BUT AN AVENUE WHERE I LIVE IS WHAT WAS DESCRIBED TO ME AT LEAST AS A THROUGHWAY FOR WATER. BUT THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS. AS DRY AS IT COULD BE IN A RATE EVENT, I GUESS BUT IT WASN'T HIGH WATER. I MEAN, I CAME HOME DURING THE HURRICANE HAD TO PARK AROUND THE CORNER. AND JUST A WALK TO MY HOUSE, BUT THE REST OF NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T HAVE HIGH WATER. WHICH IS GREAT, BUT IT MAKES DIFFICULT. MEDIAN HOME MUST HAVE A GONDOLA. THANK YOU. SOMEBODY FOUND OUT MY JOKE. UM. SO I'M DEFINITELY EXCITED TO SEE. THE ACTUAL NUMBER PUT TOWARDS A POSSIBLE

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AND GOING FROM HERE AND OUR GOAL WAS TO BEFORE WE. FINALIZED THE TEXT AND PUT THE DRAFT REPORT AND THE ADMINISTRATION PINION. WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO COUNSEL UPDATE YOU ON WHAT THE FINDINGS WERE. WHAT'S IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE YET THE FEEDBACK SO WE'LL TAKE. THE CONVERSATION DISCUSSION WE HAD TONIGHT. ROLL THAT INTO OUR DRAFT REPORT, AND OUR GOAL IS IN WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS TO HAVE SOMETHING SUBMITTED TO START THAT REVIEW PROCESS TO FINALIZE THIS BY IN THE YEAR AND THEN LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS FOR NO. ANY CP PLANNING GOING FORWARD OR WITH A DIFFERENT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE PURSUED IT TO CLEAN OHIO FUNDS OF PWC. AS MUCH AS MENTIONED IN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. YOU KNOW IF WE CAN LAY THEM WITH THE STREET PROJECT THAT THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO KIND OF LEVERAGE THAT FUNDING. UM AND HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR TIME ON COUNCIL HERE? THE CITY'S BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN LEVERAGING OUR LOCAL INVESTMENTS, UM, TO GET FEARED STATE OR OTHER OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS, SO. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SUMMARY WHERE WE'RE AT. AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WILL TAKE US OUT. IF THIS ONE I JUST LIKE TO THANK MR KELLER AND TEAM FOR THIS. THIS WAS. 14 MONTHS AGO WHEN WE SAT DOWN ON THE TABLE AND SAID, YEP, G. ISN'T IT AWFUL? MM BUT EVERYBODY WOULD. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DEFINITE SOLUTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS AND NOT SURE IF WE EVER CAN FIX IT. SO NOW WE'VE TAKEN IT FORWARD WITH EVIDENCE. IT SAYS YES, WE SEE THE PROBLEM IN MODELING. YES WE SEE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE MODELING PROVES THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS COULD WORK. AND NOW WE HAVE SOME. ACTION ITEMS AND SOME MONEY EXPECTATIONS.

SOME FINANCE KIND OF THINGS. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TO PRIORITIZE AND FUND AND MOVE SOME OF THESE FORWARD. THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A QUESTION IF I MAY. YES MR PRESIDENT THANK YOU, UH, IN TERMS OF YOUR PAGE 27 IN TERMS OF WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DETENTION. PROJECT YOU STATE THAT REMOVAL OF THE SURFACE FLOODING ALONG GROCERY OF FRENCH STREET IN TOWNSHIP WAS JUST CURIOUS WITHIN YOUR STUDY PARAMETERS. DID YOU FIND ANY STRUCTURAL OR WHAT YOU LABELED LEVEL ONE FLOODING. SO. I THINK FOR THE REGISTRY AND ANY TIME I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION ON STRUCTURE, FLOODING WAS MORE OF JUST A LEVEL THREE LEVEL TO FLOODING, AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION CAUSED OF. 5.5 TO 6.5 MILLION. AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE LAND ACQUISITION IS THAT CORRECT? SO.

WITH THAT RETENTION. WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY. UH FLOODING IN THE STREETS. THAT'S WHAT IT ELIMINATES. AND RIGHT NOW, IN TERMS OF THAT, WHICH YOU CLASSIFIES THE 25 YEAR STORM

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POINT, BUT INSTEAD OF THREE HOURS, WHICH IS A DESIGN STANDARD IT WOULD BE. IT'S FIVE NOW AND IT WILL BE REDUCED TO THREE. IS THAT ACCURATE BOARD ELIMINATED IT ELIMINATES MOST OF IT, AND PROBABLY IN THE AREAS OF WHERE THE FLOODING STILL REMAINS. IT WILL BE. SO IT'S WATER IN THE STREET, AND I'M NOT IN TERMS OF STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENT CORRECT. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. YEAH I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WITH ADMINISTRATION TRY AND IDENTIFY. NO AGAIN I SAY THE GOOD NEWS FROM THIS IS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE LEVEL ONE FLOODING AREAS WHERE WE HAVE YES. YEAH. EVOLVED FROM FROM THE CITY'S DESIGN STANDARDS AND NO, OF COURSE IN THE FLOODPLAIN FEMA ERAS. TO BE EXPECTED. BUT YES WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. YOU'RE CORRECT. AND THEN AGAIN, I THINK YOU YOU MENTIONED IN TERMS OF YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THOSE AREAS OF METAL LANE OR PROBABLY THE MOST SUSCEPTIBLE TO FLOODING, AND YOU'VE GOT AWAY IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST LAND ACQUISITION COST, TOO.

QUARRYING PROPERTIES, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO BALANCE HERE IN TERMS OF SO MAKING IMPROVEMENT IN AN AREA THANK YOU. THANK YOU MILES AND YOUR TEAM IS NICE PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. THEY DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS IN HER NEW BUSINESS IS KILLING ANYTHING OUT THERE. NO, MA'AM. UM, MAYOR STAGE. ARE YOU STILL WITH US? MR BARROSO. WAS IT? I'M SORRY

[Call for Dept. Reports & Closing Comments]

PRESIDENT HELP, MISS KELLY. NOTHING ADDITIONAL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE LIST OF PEOPLE ON THE MEETING. JUST UH, MEET YOURSELF WHEN I GET TO YOU. MR VYDRA. I HAVE NOTHING. MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. MM. MR T FURRED.

UNPRECEDENTED EMBERS OF COUNCIL JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW ON OUR ONLINE FOR BIT INSPECTION PROGRAM FROM CITY VIEW. WE'RE PLAYING. GO LIVE ON NOVEMBER THE FIRST. THAT'S THE TARGET DATE. THIS IS GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD THING FOR CONSTITUENTS. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE 24 7 ACCESS TO SERVICE FOR THE ONLINE APPLICATION AND PROCESSING. AND THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO SCREAM LINE THE PROCESS SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, CONSTITUENTS WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO CHECK THE STATUS OF THEIR ORBITS THE PROJECTS ONLINE AND EVEN EVENTUALLY PAY FOR THOSE ONLINE. IT ALSO HELPS ARE EXPECTED TO REDUCE THE TIME THAT. COMPLETE INSPECTIONS.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO UPLOAD PHOTOS AND HAVE REAL TIME ACCESS TO PROJECTS AT ALSO COMMUNITY IN FOR THE COMMUNICATION WITH CONTRACTORS AND FAMILY SPECTRUM PORTS. AND NOTIFICATIONS. SO WE'RE EXCITED. UM. MICHAEL SO THIS TEAM'S GOING THROUGH SOME TRAINING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET THIS THING READY AND WORK SITE OF WHAT IS GOING TO DO AND HOW IT'S GOING TO MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD, AND THAT'S WHY THEY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. LET'S ACCEPT THAT IS EXCITING. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. MR RUSH. PICK UP THE HEAD. SHAKE THIS, FITZPATRICK. GOOD EVENING. THAT UNPRECEDENTED MEMBERS OF COUNCIL UM I LIKE THEY CAN'T HAVE A STORMWATER PRESENTATION LIKE THAT GIVEN AND NOT SAY A FEW WORDS AT LEAST. UM, SO I GUESS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE THAT. AS THE TEAM.

PRESENTED TONIGHT AND WAS REALLY ENCOURAGING TO KNOW THAT 98% OF OUR SYSTEM IS FUNCTIONING AS INTENDED AND TO, UM NOT REALLY FIND ANY SURPRISES. IT CONFIRMED ALL THE AREAS THAT WE KNOW WE EXPERIENCE AND HER WAY, PUTTING, UM, BUT DIDN'T BRING TO LIGHT ANYTHING THAT WE WEREN'T ALREADY REALLY AWARE OF, BUT THEY GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP WITH SOME OF THOSE LOCALIZED IMPROVEMENTS THAT AND TEST THEM IN THE MODEL TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PERFORM AS EXPECTED AND GET THE RESULTS THAT WE NEED AND SO, UM. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF THE LOCALIZED FLOODING. UM AND GET OUR COLLECTOR STREETS BACK DOWN INTO WHERE WE WANT THEM. UM I THINK THAT MR BOZO'S POINT WAS THOUGHT ON. AND SO WE'VE ALWAYS PREACHED THAT. HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE IS OUR BIGGEST TARGET. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ENDANGERING ANY PEOPLE AND ANY PROPERTY, AND SO, UM, KEEPING THAT IN MIND WHEN WE'RE DECIDING WHAT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. UM, THAT. WHAT IS THE END GOAL AND UNDERSTANDING THAT ROADWAY FLOODING IS, UH,

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MATERIALS ON LIGHTING JUST SEEMED TO BE BACKLOG. OUT AT HOME AMONG BEFORE SURFACE, PAVING HAS BEEN DOWN FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW, AND WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE SIGNAL COMPONENTS TO GET ERECTED AND INSTALLED AND POWER SERVICE OUT THERE. BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY NICE AMENITY AND THE NEW ENTRANCE INTO THE PARK AND THE NEW BYPASS WITHIN THE PARK OF ALL NOW BEEN PAVED, AND IT'S REALLY LOOKING WELL RESTORATIONS FOLLOWING ALREADY GETTING SOME GRASS POPPING SO. OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG AND THEN, UM, THE BIKE PATH. ALONG SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD IS ALSO, UM ALMOST ALL THE WAY EXCAVATED IN STONE. THEY'RE GONNA START ON THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE OVER THE STREAM THERE NEAR THE FUEL DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH AS WELL. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS CONRAD. THINK ABOUT PRESIDENT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. MR HURLEY. THUMBS UP. MR BO, SO HE'S STILL OUT THERE. YES I HAVE NOTHING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. AND I THOUGHT, MADAM CHAIR. OH, MAYOR. I WAS HERE. QUITE FRANKLY, I WOULD BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING A MEETING AND BEING A MAYOR. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT'S PROPER TO ME RESPOND BECAUSE OF, UH ST PAUL'S AS YOU CAN'T MEET REMOTE. BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DON'T LOOK RIGHT OVER HERE. NOBODY RIGHT. WE COULDN'T EVEN SPEAK. HE JUST CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION. YOU JUST COULDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION. YOU COULDN'T MAKE ANY. CRAZY EMOTIONS ON THE FLY, BUT ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE MAYOR? ANY COMMENTS, MAYOR. WELL DONE TONIGHT. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT ON THE STORM WATER. AND AS I TOLD YOU MANY TIMES, YOU GO BACK AND READ THE ARCHIVES OF PARTICULARLY GROSSI ROAD GOING BACK ALMOST 100 YEARS. UH IT'S NOT BEEN ONE THAT HAS NOT GONE ON NOTICE FOR OVER A CENTURY. HOPEFULLY, WE FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO DO IT AT A MODERATE COST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'VE REACHED THE END OF ALL OF OUR STUFF REPORTS AND WE'RE READY FOR CLOSING. HOW MUCH FROM COUNCIL.

EVERYONE LOOKS TIRED, AND I IMAGINE THAT YOU'LL ALL BE VERY, VERY BRIEF. NO PRESSURE.

MR BEAR. I HAVE NO COMMENT TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MR HOLT. NO WAY. DO I HAVE A COMMENT? THANK YOU, MR SAKE. OH I DO HAVE A ONE COMMENT TOMORROW NIGHT. ALL THREE HIGH SCHOOLS WILL HAVE THEIR BAND FESTIVAL. GROVE CITY HIGH SCHOOL THAT THEY DO ANNUALLY ON THERE, AND THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE PERFORMANCES OF THE MARCHING BAND. SO YOU GET A CHANCE TO SEE ALL THEIR SHOWS.

UH PERFORMANCES ON THERE TOMORROW NIGHT. SEVEN. P.M. GROUP CITY HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR SULLIVAN. YOU KNOW, COMMON NOT BEING BRIEF REMINDS OF THIS STORY FROM MY CHILDHOOD. I'M KIDDING. I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. UH THANK YOU, MR SLIVA. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING REGULARLY SCHEDULED NOVEMBER, 1ST. UH FIRST MEETING OF NOVEMBER DAY BEFORE ELECTION DAY. THE MOST WONDERFUL COUNCIL

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