Nov 02, 2021 Planning Commission

[A. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]

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WELCOME TO THE GROSS CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AND UM, I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL. MR ROCK. HERE MR. FREE HERE, CHAIR. OYSTER HERE, MR LINDER. HERE, MR TITUS HERE. LET YOU JOIN ME IN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

[C. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES – October 5, 2021]

[1. APPLICATION: Chase Bank Solar Panels – Certificate of Appropriateness (Appeal)]

CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPEAL. TODD KENARD. 5432 L BONN ROAD. THAT'S ACTUALLY THE WAYNESVILLE, OHIO. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INSTALL SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF OF THE CHASE BANK AT 21 61 STRING TOWN ROAD. A REQUEST FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WAS DENIED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR DUE TO THEIR VISIBILITY FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND ROADWAYS, AND THIS APPLICATION SERVES AS THE APPEAL TO THIS DENIAL PER CHAPTER. 11 43. THE PER PANEL. THE PANELS ARE PROPOSED ON THE EAST, WEST AND SOUTH FACING ROOF SECTIONS OF THE BUILDING. THEY WILL BE BLACK WITH LIGHT, GRAY WRECKING FLUSH MOUNTED TO THE ROOF AND HAVE ANTI REFLECTIVE COATING THAT REDUCES THE GLARE. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT ASSOCIATE ASSOCIATED MECHANICALS, INCLUDING SIDE MOUNT AND BUILDING EQUIPMENT, WILL BE LOCATED NEAR EXISTING EQUIPMENT AND WILL BE SCREENED WITH THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING. THESE MECHANICALS ARE SUBJECT TO THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 11 36, WHICH WOULD BE ENFORCED IF EXISTING LANDSCAPING IS NOT ADEQUATE TO EFFECTIVELY SCREENED THIS EQUIPMENT. DURING THE REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION. UM IT WAS BROUGHT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION THAT A PLAN HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED TO INSTALL A LANDSCAPE FEATURE AT THE CORNER OF STRING TOWN ROAD AND MCDOWELL ROAD IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS TO STRING TOWN ROAD IN 2013. NOTING THAT THE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED PRIOR TO OUR CURRENT LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND IS DEFICIENT IN OUR CURRENT CODE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE DRY VIOLIN STRING TOWN ROAD STAFF HAS MADE THE APPLICANT AWARE OF THE DESIRE TO WORK TOGETHER TO ADD PLANTINGS IN THE AREA IN THE FORM OF A LANDSCAPE FEATURE. HOWEVER IN GENERAL STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED SOLAR PANELS AS THEY ADVANCE SUSTAINABILITY OBJECTIVES NOTED IN THE GROVE CITY 2050 PLAN. THEREFORE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MAKER RECOMMENDATION

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LOOK AT THAT BUILDING. IT LOOKS REALLY BAD, BUT SOLAR PANEL I MEAN, THE ONLY SIDE THAT. CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO FACE IGNORED THAT EVERY SIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF OUR BUILDING IS NEXT TO YOU. IS THE SOLAR PANELS. BUT THEY CONSIDER THE GROUND RACKING. I WORKED FOR A CHAPEL ELECTRIC WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INSTALLS. OKAY, ACQUIRING THE PERMITS.

ALL THAT STUFF BLACK AND BEACHES, THE ENGINEERING FIRM. I DO KNOW THAT CHASE BANK. THIS IS ONE OF 40 IN THE STATE OF OHIO. AND THEY'RE DOING THEM. AND ILLINOIS'S INDIANA, CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO PREACH THE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GROUP SETTING STRING TOWN, RIGHT? DOES WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. DID YOU CONSIDER THE GREEN? I CANNOT CANNOT SAY THAT, OKAY? OBVIOUSLY IS TRYING IN YOUR FILE PHOTO HERE. YOUR SAMPLE PHOTO. DON'T KNOW HOW OLD IT IS, BUT YOUR CABLING THAT CONNECTS THE PANELS. THE WAY THAT JUST GOT GOING OVER THE TOP OF THE REGIONAL IS THERE HAVE BEEN MADE ANY IMPROVEMENTS, MAYBE SOME KIND OF COMMERCIAL TYPE. CAN'T DO IT OR WIRE CHASE, BUT THAT ISN'T THAT ISN'T CONDUIT. THAT'S ONE AND SHE ANTI CONDUIT COMES ACROSS THAT RIDGE. UM, THAT IS SUGAR CREEK ON WILMINGTON ROAD IN DAYTON, OHIO. WE DID THAT INSTALLED JUNE ISH AROUND JUNE. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS SOMETHING VISUALLY TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT DOWN TO THE SOFFIT OF THE BUILDING OR. YOU KNOW, PASS ALONG THAT SIDE OF THAT RIDGE. JUST SO THE CABLING IS NOT EXPOSED TO THAT. MAYBE YOU'RE. SOLAR POUNDS LOOK MORE CONTIGUOUS WITH THE RIBS SURFACE. THAT I'M SURE IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN CONSIDER. I JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT TIDIED UP. YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT. BUT IT LOOKS YOU KNOW, MORE RIGHT? THOUGHT OUT MORE ENGINEERED THAN JUST, UH, CAN'T DO IT. GOING OVER THE STANDING SEAM ROOF. THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. I HAVE KIND OF A TAG ALONG TO HIS COMMENT. DO WE KNOW FOR SURE? WHICH, UM. WHICH TYPE OF SOLAR PANEL OR WILL BE USED AND GROVE CITY. I BELIEVE THAT PANEL TYPES ON THE DRAWINGS, BUT IT'S THE EXACT SAME TYPE THAT'S ON THAT PICTURE. BOTH IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES ON THE DRAWINGS. LOOKS LIKE ONE IS MORE IN CASE WITH A LIKE A SILVER METALLIC BORDER. AND THEN THE OTHER LOOKS TO BE. I DIDN'T BRING A SET OF DRAWINGS WITH ME. THAT'S GOT THE PANEL SPECS ON HIM. BUT ALL THE PANELS HAVE BEEN THE SAME. SO THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE THE PHOTOS THERE FROM SUGAR CREAM BRAND.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. SO ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. AND WITH THAT WE'RE READY FOR EMOTION. HERE I NEWLY APPROVED I DON'T NUMBER ONE.

CHASE BANK SOLAR PANELS ARE TYPICAL OF APPROPRIATENESS. WITH THE STIPULATION NOTICE.

THANKS. ROLL CALL, MR TITUS? YEAH CHAIR. OYSTER YES, MR ROCK. YES MR FREE? YES, MR LINDER.

NO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS WILL MOVE AHEAD IN TWO WEEKS WITH CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RIGHT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TEAM RCT CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS

[2. APPLICATION: T. Marzetti – Certificate of Appropriateness (Appeal)]

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WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? A YEAR, A YEAR AFTER 18 MINUTES, SOCIAL DISTANCING IF IT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE JUST. INCREASING THE STAFF, BUT WE JUST GOT EVERYBODY IN THE BUILDING AND WE JUST NEED MORE SPACE. UNTIL. COVID 19 WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE INTO IT, AND WE DON'T KNOW THE END DATE. WE JUST WANT TO SPREAD PEOPLE OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. YOU HAVE ONE MASTER. LIKE VERY GOOD. QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. JUSTIN FOR STAFF WAS THEIR ORIGINAL. APPLICATION STATING 18 MONTHS OR DID THEY ASK FOR SOMETHING TO. I BELIEVE THEIR ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR THE 12 TO 18 MONTHS AS SUBMITTED, BUT FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING THE CERTIFICATE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS CAN ONLY APPROVE FOR TEMPORARY STRUCTURES OF SIX MONTHS IN DURATION. UM AND NOT KNOWING HOW LONG THESE CONDITIONS WILL LAST. WE FELT IT APPROPRIATE TO EXTEND IT. THAT'S GREAT.

SEVERAL MODELS. MY LAST WE DID ACTUALLY SIX AND THEN THEY FIGURE OUT BEFORE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. DON'T KNOW WHEN THE 10 DAMAGE DOWN THE ROAD. SURE. UH, SPEAK BUT. I'M LIKE BOTH SO WITH BUILDING DIVISION. SO THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION THAT CAME AND ASKED US FOR FIVE YEARS.

THE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I'M HAPPY FOR YOU. I DON'T SEE FIVE YEARS, BUT.

RIGHT. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH EMOTION. MAKE THE MOTION TO IMPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO.

CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. FOR MARCHETTI. WITH THE ONE STIPULATION? YES. WELCOME MR ROCK. YES MR LINDER? YES MR TITUS? YES, MR FREE? YES. SURE. OYSTER? YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YES. YOU'RE YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAY THAT YOU'RE FREE TO GO. YEAH. RIGHT ITEM NUMBER THREE

[3. APPLICATION: Burris Garage – Certificate of Appropriateness]

DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST AND THE PREVIOUSLY UNDERLYING ZONING I'M SORRY.

SIDES. UM THIS PROJECT NECESSITATED THE SITE TO BE REZONED P U D TO DRAFT THE STANDARDS TO ENSURE ITS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE AREA. THE CEO A REQUEST SERVES TO REVIEW THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURE WITHIN THE H P A AS WELL AS OWNING COMPLIANCE.

AS REVIEWED DURING THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE STRUCTURE WILL BE TWO STORIES WITH A MAXIMUM PEAK HEIGHT OF 21 FT. FIVE INCHES ABOVE THE FINISH FLOOR. THE PLANS SHOW A WALL HEIGHT OF 10 FT, WHICH EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED WALL HEIGHT ESTABLISHED IN THE ZONING TEXT OF NINE FT. HOWEVER THE TEXT DOES GRANT CITY COUNCIL THE ABILITY TO APPROVE DEVIATIONS FROM THIS TEXT. STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF GRANTING THIS

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ROLL CALL, MR LINDER? YES SURE. OYSTER? YES MR ROCK? YES MR FREE. MR TITUS? YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND. I AM. NUMBER FOUR. CRAM IT SELF STORAGE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN

[4. APPLICATION: Kram-It Self Storage – Final Development Plan (Amendment)]

THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED A FUTURE BUILDING IN THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE NEW BUILDING CONFIGURATION IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT WAS WARRANTED. THE ORIGINAL BUILDING APPROVED IN 2010 WAS APPROXIMATELY 11,000 SQUARE FEET AND SERVED AS AN EXPANSION OF BUILDING BE THEIR REVISED PLAN PROPOSES AN APPROXIMATE 6000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING LOCATED BEHIND THE EXISTING BUILDING. BUT SEPARATED BY A 30 FT DRIVE. I'LL. THE PROPOSED BUILDING WILL BE FINISHED IN THE SAME MATERIALS AS EXISTING STRUCTURES, INCLUDING BRICK AND STONE WERE VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD PAYMENT AND ACCESS AND FENCING TO ENCLOSE. THE SITE WILL ALSO MATCH THAT EXISTING ON THE SITE. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT 10 TREES CURRENTLY EXIST IN THE PROPOSED WORK AREA AND WILL BE REPLANTED SUBMITTED PLANS SHOWING THESE REPLACEMENT PLANTINGS ALSO SHOW THE LANDSCAPING APPROVED AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SOME OF WHICH DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN INSTALLED. AND SO WE JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT ALL LANDSCAPING SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED PLANS WILL NEED TO BE INSTALLED WITH THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT, INCLUDING ANY REQUIRED LANDSCAPING THAT HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN INSTALLED AT THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT. STAFF BELIEVES THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND IN LINE WITH THE GROSS CITY 2050 GETTING PRINCIPLES. THEREFORE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MAKER RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT AS SUBMITTED. ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. NEEDED THROUGH ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. HEARING NONE WERE READY FOR A MOTION. I MAKE THE MOTION APPLICATION NUMBER FOUR CRAM IT. STORAGE FOUND VELVET PLAYING AMENDMENT. WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO OUR CITY COUNCIL. ROLL. CALL MR FREE. YES, MR TITUS? YES CHAIR. OYSTER YES, MR ROCK. YES, MR LINDA? YES? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT. LAST ITEM TODAY. ITEM NUMBER

[5. APPLICATION: Communities at Plum Run PUD-R - Rezoning]

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WITH ■THE ONE STIPULATION CLARIFYING THAT THE PLAN SHEETS AT THE SITE LAYOUTS ARE FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES ONLY AND THAT THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE SITE WILL BE APPROVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? MADAM SURE. YES. I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT WE, UM WE'VE CONTINUED. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE. THE PLAN YOU YOU GUYS APPROVE PREVIOUSLY AND COUNCIL APPROVED. WE DID CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON REFINING THE SUB AREAS SO THAT.

UM YOU KNOW, DIFFERENCE OF BERRIES HAVE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. WE ACTUALLY INCREASE THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. LIKE WHAT? THE MASONRY REQUIREMENT.

UM SO AS WE GO UP AND LOT SIZE, WE'RE GOING UP IN ARCHITECTURE REQUIREMENTS. UM AND THAT WILL RESULT IN PRICE POINT ENHANCEMENT. WITH THAT I'M HERE WITH MY TEAM. UM JIM HILL'S FROM PULTE HOMES, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE AND I'LL BE PROPOSED. FOR ADDITIONAL STIPULATION. THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY ON THERE. TO MY INITIAL CONCERN IS REGARDING THE LOT SIZES. AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOMES. THEY. THEY'RE SMALLER THAN THE SUBDIVISION JUST TO THE NORTH OF ITS SOUR TOMATOES. FOR THE MOST PARTS OF AREA A. IS APPROXIMATELY THE SAME BUILDING DENSITY IS SO TO MEADOWS. BUT SOME AREAS B AND C HERE TO BE SMALLER. THEY HAVE LONG STRAIGHT STREETS THAT LACK CHARACTER IN MY OPINION. AND MOST OF THE OPEN SPACES ARE WITH THAT ARE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SMALLISH AND DIFFICULT. SO, UM. IN FACT, BNC SUB AREAS ONI DOESN'T NEED ANY OF OUR CURRENT SINGLE FAMILY HOME ZONING CODE. AND IF ONE WERE TO LOOK AHEAD AT. FUTURE ZONING CODES WOULD NOT EVEN BE ALLOWED IN THE CITY AT THAT POINT. SO MY PROPOSED DEPOPULATION WOULD BE THAT ALL ALL LOTS AND SUB AREAS B AND C MEET THE ZONING TEXT OF SUB AREA A. A SECOND. SERVANT THAT I HAVE. REGARD TO THE SIDE LOADED GARAGES. I'M GLAD TO SEE THE PLAN INCLUDES SIDELOADING GARAGES. BUT THERE'S A LITTLE PART OF THE SENTENCE THAT SAYS ACCOMMODATE SIDE LOOK. LOADED

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AND YOU BARELY LEAVE THE 6 65 UNDER SECTION. BEFORE YOU BE SLOWING DOWN FOR PLUM MORAN AND BARELY MOVE AGAIN BEFORE YOU BE SLOWING DOWN FOR CITED IN MEADOWS. MM. AND IT'S ADDING AN AWFUL LOT OF TRAFFIC IN AN AREA AND ON STATE ROUTE 24, WHICH FRANKLY, IS NOT BUILT OUT TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THAT AREA. SO I'LL BE PROPOSING THAT WE REMOVE THE STATE ROUTE ONE OF FOUR ACCESS FROM SUB AREA A. THERE IS A NATURAL EXIT PATH TO THE NORTH THROUGH CIDA MEADOWS. AND UM, I THINK YOU COULD EASILY MODIFY.

LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX, REDUCING THEIR DEPTH A BIT TO CREATE A CUL DE SAC OR COURT FEATURE THERE. MM. LIFE. MEXICANS CERN REGARDS THE SAFETY ON ROUTE 6 65 AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT CONVERSATIONS HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THEY'VE ASKED TO THAT YOU RESERVE SPACE AT THAT CORNER, SO THAT IT. THEY DECIDE TO MAKE ROADWAY MODIFICATIONS IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY'VE GOT. HOUSE IS SITTING IN THE WAY. I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THE WORDING IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS A LITTLE WEAK. SO I'LL BE PROPOSING THE STIPULATION THAT. OPEN SPACE G THE RESERVED FOR FUTURE MODIFICATIONS OF THE 6 65 ROADWAY. FOR THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REQUESTS. I BELIEVE THAT WAS YOUR INTENT IS THAT. WHAT? I UNDERSTAND THAT WELL, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS EVERYTHING YOU'VE BEEN SAYING, BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY IN TERMS OF WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM ODA. IT'S NOT FINAL, AND THEY ARE THE REGULATOR THAT IS THEIR ROAD. SO I AM PRESIDENT TO AGREE TO A STIPULATION LIKE THAT BEFORE WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMUNICATED OR VERBALLY WITH US THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED TO SET ASIDE THAT GROUND, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR OUR TRAFFIC CITY IS NOT COMPLETED YET AND WE HAVE YET TO HAVE ANYTHING FROM ODA AND RIGHT. IT'S THAT. WE TEND TO. WE WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH THE. INTENT OF THAT KIND OF STIPULATION. THAT IS WHAT WE INTENDED WITH THE LANGUAGE, BUT YOU KNOW THEY ARE THE TRAFFIC REGULATOR, NOT IN THE CITY OF ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS NOT NOT APPOINTED COMMISSIONER OR US. SO THE. THAT TRAFFIC STUDY IS STILL PENDING. REALLY? I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LOAD UP ISSUE. BUT YOU YOU ARE INTENDING TO HOLD THAT SPACE OPEN. YES AND THAT WOULD BE OPEN SPACE G ON THE. ON THE DRAWINGS UNLESS THEY WOULD COME BACK AND SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND THE DAY OF ALL THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY TO TELL US TO DICTATE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT. THAT CONDITION, SO IT JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL TO SAY ON THE RECORD RELATIVE TO A STIPULATION. YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC STUDIES DO CHANGE IN TERMS OF WHERE YOU KNOW WHAT THE INITIAL FINDINGS WERE. AND MY FINAL COMMENT HAS TO DO WITH THE CONNECTOR TRAILS. MOSTLY BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY CONNECTOR TRAILS, AND I KNOW THERE'S AN INTENTION TO DO THAT AND MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMENT THAT I SEE IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. THAT WE HAVE AN EIGHT FT STAND ALONE.

TRAIL OR CONNECTOR PATH. NEXT THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ALL THE WAY UP ALONG 6 65. TO THE EASTERN EDGE OF SIGHT. IS ADEQUATE ROOM ALONG

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AS I LOOK AT THE PLANNING, AND I, WHICH IS SUGGESTS THAT TRAIL CONNECTOR COULD START.

BASICALLY AT THE FARMSTEAD DIVISION CROSS, ONE OF FOUR THERE AT THE FARMSTEAD LIGHT.

COME DOWN THE EAST SIDE OF STATE ROUTE ONE OF FOUR WELL, IT REACHES THIS PARCEL. FOLLOW THE FARM AROUND THE STREAM CORRIDOR. DIAGONALLY THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD MAKE AN AMAZING TRAIL. AND THEN CONTINUE EAST ALONG 6 65 AND NORTH ALONG 6 65 UNTIL IT REACHES. HIGHER MEADOW AND EVENTUALLY INSIDE A GRAPH. NO, THERE'S NO STIPULATION NEEDED BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY COVERED WITH THE FIRST STIPULATE. IDEA. IN TERMS OF THAT LAST POINT, IT IS OUR INTENT TO HAVE THE FULL CONNECTION THROUGH THE SITE. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO SAY, THOUGH, ON THE RECORD THAT. OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO HAVE A REGIONAL ACCESS TO THIS NATURAL AREA.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. WHAT THE PLAN UM. HAVING TO REGIONAL TRAIL RUNNING ALONG 6 65 IS A LITTLE MORE PROBLEMATIC IN TERMS OF. IS THAT THE BEST PLACE IS THAT THE BEST HUMAN EXPERIENCE FOR YOU KNOW FAMILIES ON BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS AND JOGGERS WITH THE TRUCK TRAFFIC WITH SOME OF THE INTENSITY OF TRAFFIC ON THAT? ON THAT ROADWAY IS THAT IS THAT THE BEST? SAFEST LOCATION FOR A REGIONAL TRAIL.

WE CERTAINLY. CAME TO THIS APPLICATION FROM THE BEGINNING WITH THAT INTENT OF HAVING THAT REGIONAL CONNECTION. WE THINK THIS SITES THE BEST PLACE. TO HAVE THAT REGIONAL CONNECTION TO GET YOU TO THE METRO PARK WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONNECTION. BUT 6 65 MAY NOT BE WHAT WE YOU KNOW WHEN WE COME BACK WITH OUR WITH OUR PLAN OR FINAL PLAN. THAT WE MAY NOT ENGAGE 6 65 FOR THAT PURPOSE BECAUSE OF THAT CONCERN WITH THE INTENSITY OF THAT ROADWAY AND WHETHER. YOU KNOW, UM THAT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR A MULTI USE PATH. UM I'M SURE I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER REQUEST IF I MAY. UM MAYBE START WHILE WE'RE ON TRAFFIC START WITH THE CONCERN WITH ONE OF FOUR. UM, AGAIN, OUR TRAFFIC STUDY. WE'VE MADE OUR FINDINGS. UM OH, DOT OH, DOT REVIEW AND AGAIN. THAT'S ONE OF FOUR IS THEIR THEIR TOURIST DICTION. OH, DOT REVIEW IS NOT BEEN GIVEN TO US IN WRITING. THERE IS NO FINDING IN THE STUDY THAT THAT ACCESS TO ONE OF FOUR DIRECTLY FROM OUR SITE IS A SAFETY PROBLEM. THAT WAS NOT THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS FOUND. THE CITY HAS REVIEWED OUR TRAFFIC STUDY ODA HAS REVIEWED AS WELL. THEY DIDN'T FIND A SAFETY PROBLEM WITH HAVING THAT INTERSECTION. WE FEEL IT WOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE TO RUN ALL THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THROUGH THE EXISTENCE OUT OF MEDALS. THAT IS. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT. AND WE THINK WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM AS AN EXISTING COMMUNITY OR FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO SUCCEED. AND. WE CAN'T SUPPORT THAT KIND OF CONDITION THAT THERE IS NO SAFETY ISSUE THAT WAS FOUND, AND IT'S UM. IT WON'T REALLY IT WON'T WORK REAL WELL AND FUNCTION WELL THROUGH THAT EXISTING COMMUNITY IN OUR VIEW.

THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID FIND SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE REQUIRED TO MAKE. UM. A TWO WAY LEFT TURN LANE BETWEEN SORT OF MEADOWS AND 60 BOULEVARD IN 60 65. ON THE NORTH END, RIGHT TURN LANE AT 104 INTO THE SITE DRIVEWAY. UM AND THEN TO PROVIDE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT WITH ADDITIONAL STORAGE AND ADDITIONAL TAPER LENGTH. THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, SO. THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID FOCUS ON IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE FOR THIS TO WORK. AND YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A DEVELOPER.

BUT IT DIDN'T FIND AN UNSAFE CONDITION. UM. IN TERMS OF, UM. I GUESS WE ADDRESS THE 6 65 CURVE ISSUE. THAT IS OUR INTENT. BUT WE DO WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY THEY COME BACK WITH ANYTHING DIFFERENT. UM WHAT? AS WE'VE ASKED FOR WRITTEN COMMENTS. IN TERMS OF THE 70 FT LOT REQUIREMENT, I GUESS. THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THAT IS THIS IS THE WHAT? YOU KNOW THAT. THE EXISTING SOUR TOMATOES IS PRETTY MUCH 70 FT. LOTS THROUGHOUT. UM IT'S AN OLDER DESIGN COMMUNITY. IN THE 70 FT LOT ISSUE. THERE IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THEY HAVE ZERO USABLE COMMON OPEN SPACE. ALMOST ZERO. UM. WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW WHAT'S IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT CALLS FOR DIVERSITY OF LOT SIZES. IN THE MAIN RESULT OF HAVING DIVERSE

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PERCENTAGE OF OPEN SPACE THAT GETS US THERE. IT'S ALL THE ALL THE OPEN SPACES ON ON PEOPLE'S LOTS. YOU CAN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT 30. AND I DO HAVE A HAND OUT. I'D LIKE TO I SUBMIT THAT SHERIFF FOR ME. HE'S A PRICK. AND OUR COMPARES. OTHER RECENT DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS. UM. BY THE CITY. AND IN PARTICULAR, YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THERE THE QUARRIES OF PINNACLE.

AND FARM STOOD. TWO VERY SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENTS OF RECENT APPROVAL IN VINTAGE.

REALLY YOU KNOW, HAVING A DIVERSITY OF LOT SIZES IS SOMETHING THAT MEETS MARKET DEMAND. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT A LARGER LOT, BECAUSE THERE THEY'D RATHER HAVE COMMON OPEN SPACE. THEIR MOST PRECIOUS COMMODITY IS TIME. UM IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW THE SOME OF THE MIDDLE COLUMNS. THE MIDDLE PART OF THE SHEET. YOU'LL SEE THE LOT SIZE BREAKDOWN. UM, YOU'LL SEE THE PINNACLE OF THE COREY. UM COREY'S PINNACLE HAS. REALLY A MAJORITY OF THEIR LOTS ARE UNDER 70 AND VAST MAJORITY BETWEEN 52. AND 55 FT WIDE.

FLOOR THEIR TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND. UM YOU'LL SEE IN THE OPEN SPACE AREA THAT ALLOWED THEM TO ACHIEVE OVER 30% OPEN SPACE. IF YOU GO TO THE FARMSTEAD PLAN, AND FARMSTEAD IS MUCH BIGGER SITE, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT SUB AREAS WITH DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. BUT AGAIN 65% OF THEIR LOTS. ARE BETWEEN 52 65 FT WIDE. WITH THE DIVERSITY THAT GOES UP GOES UP FROM THERE, SO. WE KNOW YOU KNOW, COMPARABILITY TO THE MARKET WHAT PEOPLE WANT IN THE MARKET? SOME OF THE PRECEDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SET HERE RECENTLY.

AGAIN MEETING THE COMP PLANT BEFORE THIS THIS AREA. THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IS THE DIVERSITY OF LOT SIZE. BECAUSE IT ALLOWS YOU TO ACHIEVE THAT OPEN SPACE. THE SECOND THING IT DOES IS IT DOES ALLOW YOU TO HIT SOME MODERATION AND PRICE POINT. WE'RE AT A TIME WE'RE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IS A GREAT CONCERN IN OUR INDUSTRY AND MANY COMMUNITIES. HAVING SOME DIVERSITY AND LOT SIZE IS A WAY TO. HAVE SO MODERATION AND PRICE POINTS, SOME AFFORDABILITY. UM AND THAT IS ANOTHER THING THAT WORK HERE ANOTHER ANOTHER ONE OF THE GOALS WE ARE WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE SITE. UM. IN TERMS OF THE SIDE LOAD GARAGE ISSUE. UM. YEAH, WE THINK PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE DICTATED. ON WHETHER THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, A THREE CAR GARAGE OR A SIDE LOOK. GARAGE CONDITION IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE.

UM WE'VE AS A COMPANY WE'VE OFFERED. UM WE'VE AGREED TO OFFER THAT TO THE MARKET.

THAT'S A VERY COMMON THING FOR LOTS OF ZONING TALKS. BUT TO TELL SOMEONE WHAT WERE THE SPEND THEIR MONEY. IT HAS TO BE IN A SIDE LOAD. GARAGE IS NOT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE WITH. WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT IT. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CUSTOMERS WANT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY ON THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE. WE HAD A LOT AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH STAFF TO KIND OF BE ARCHITECTURE REQUIREMENTS OVERALL. UM. AND YOU KNOW, THAT IS THAT IS SOMETHING AN AREA WE HAVE DONE THAT WILL RAISE THE PRICE POINT OF THE HOME'S OVERALL. WOULD PUT ON. YOU KNOW, DICTATING WHAT A CUSTOMER BUYS IN TERMS OF THAT TYPE OF SELECTION IS.

HE'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE PREPARED TO AGREE TO. SO I THINK I DRESSED EVERYTHING. UM I DON'T KNOW IF. MR HILLS ARE GREAT SHILLONG, ORLAND DESIGNER IS ANYTHING TO ADD? ANY OTHER.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION ON YOUR SUB AREAS. A, B, C AND D. WHAT ARE THE PRICE POINTS OF EACH ONE THEMSELVES? AREAS? UM. MIGHT HAVE TO ASK. MR HILL'S THE HELP OF THAT, UM. I'LL SEE. YOU KNOW, THE GENERALLY. WHEN WE STARTED, THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN A WHILE. THE PRICES MAY HAVE CHANGED ME HAVE GONE UP SINCE THEN. BUT AT THE START OF THE PROCESS, WE WERE SAYING THAT THE CONVENTIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND START ABOUT 3 50. AND THAT WOULD BE IN ANY OF THE SUB AREAS. EMPTY NESTER PATIO HOMES

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THE PEAK TIME. I'D LIKE TO SEE A STUDY ON IT. BE. 45 O'CLOCK LIKE ON FRIDAY. CAUSE I'VE I LIVE ON 6 65 AND MY DRIVEWAY IS. 1000 FT FROM THE INTERSECTION. AND. LATELY IT'S BEEN MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES ALMOST EVERY FRIDAY. I CAN'T GET IN OR OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY WITHOUT SOMEONE GIVING ME THEM. GAP IN THE CONGO LINE, YOU KNOW, AND THE WAVE TOO. GET IN OR OUT SO.

SOME OF YOUR PEAK TIMES OR STUDIED LIKE THE DAY AFTER A THREE DAY HOLIDAY WEEKEND. ON MONDAY MORNING AT SEVEN, SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE TAKEN THAT DAY OFF, YOU KNOW, BEING AN EXTRA DAY ADDED ON THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. SO I THINK THAT COULD.

REPRESENT A LOWER ACCOUNT. AND THEN ALSO WE GOT, YOU KNOW. THE COVID SITUATION WORKING FROM HOME, SO YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW. I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING BUT MAYBE AN INCREASE.

AND THEN TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. YOU KNOW THE AGGRESSIVE THE INTERMODAL RAIL ALL THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM 71 WORKING ITS WAY OVER TO THE INTERMODAL RAIL RECKON BACKER. AND THEN GOING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF OUR AREA IN THE PICKLE WEEK COUNTY. YOU'VE GOT MANY, MANY, MANY. MILLION SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THAT WILL BE SOME MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC SO. THAT'S NOT PROBLEMS THAT YOU'RE DEVELOPMENTS CREATING FORCES JUST I THINK WE'RE. NOT RECOGNIZING SOME OF THE. TRAFFIC SITUATION THAT EXISTS EVEN PRIOR TO YOUR DEVICE. TO TRY AND TAKE THAT INTO KIND. WELL. JUST TO BE REALLY CLEAR, MADAM CHAIR, MR ROCK. OUR TRAFFIC STUDIES COMPLETE. WE COMPLETED WHAT WE START OUT WITH AN MOU WHERE THE CITY AND NO DOT TELLS US. YEAH THESE ARE THE RIGHT THINGS. WE WANT YOU TO STUDY. IT DOES TAKE AN ACCOUNT EXISTING TRAFFIC. NOT GENERATED BY US IT DOES TAKE AN ACCOUNT FUTURE GROWTH IN TRAFFIC OVER THE BUILD YEAR OVER THE BUILT HORIZON. YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, WINNER SITE WILL BUILD OUT. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEASURE TRAFFIC THAT EXISTS TODAY THAT WILL EXIST. THEN WHAT'S THAT LENGTH OF TIME ON? YOU'RE GONNA THINK IT'S 20. APPLE YEARS. NO, IT'S AT LEAST TIME FOR YOU. BUT YOU WILL FIND IT. UM AND THEN, OF COURSE IT DOES. IT DOES TAKE IN ACCOUNT THE NEW TRAFFIC WE'RE CREATING AND REQUIREMENTS WE'D HAVE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS WOULD HAVE TO MAKE TO ALLOW THE SITE TO FUNCTION SAFELY. UM. LATELY AND I'M GOING TO ASK ELI TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THIS LATELY. THERE'S NO JURISDICTION THAT LETS US COUNT. YOU KNOW, COVID TRAFFIC. WELL I UNDERSTAND WE'RE BEING TOLD ACCOUNT TRAFFIC IN, YOU KNOW, BACK AS 2000 AND 16 WHEN THE ECONOMY WAS AT ITS FULL PEAK, AND HERE IN TIMES LIKE THAT. SO. UM IT DOES TAKE AN ACCOUNT BOTH REALLY CRITICAL MEASUREMENT OF TRAFFIC IMPACT IS ALWAYS THE AM AND PM RUSH HOURS. YES. AND SO I DON'T. AGAIN THE INTEGRITY OF

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AS YOU GO FURTHER OUT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT THAT THE IMMEDIATE INTERSECTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE REQUIRED TO STUDY HIBS ROAD WE DO STUDY WHAT THEY TELL US. THE STUDY UNDER THEIR REGULATORY FOR. HOTEL IN 2800 CORPORATE EXCHANGE, DR COUNSELOR SUITE 400. UH, THE COUNCIL WERE 10 YEAR. TWO YEARS OUT, 2032. THE INTERSECTION YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT. IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT WAS INCLUDED IN HERE. THAT'S THE DIRECT INTERSECTION NORTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WITH LOCAL KNOWLEDGE IS THE CUT THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. SO IF YOU'RE COMING FROM US, 23. YOU'RE EITHER GONNA GO STRAIGHT BY THIS DEVELOPMENT ON TWO SIDES OF IT. CUT THROUGH YOUR NEW DEVELOPMENT. IF IT HAS A CONNECTOR ALL THE WAY THROUGH OR TAKE OPTION TO GO HIBS ROAD. I WAS JUST SHOCKED AT THAT ONE WAS LEFT OUT BECAUSE IT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH LOCAL KNOWLEDGE IS THE MOST USED. CUT THROUGH. TO NOT GO THROUGH 6 65 AND ONE OF FOUR IF YOU'RE NORTH. AND THEN THAT SAME ROOM COMES ONTO 6 65 AT THE. WILL BE THE NORTHEAST CORNER. YOUR DEVELOPED THAT'S KIND OF. TRAFFIC COUNT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PICK THAT INTERSECTION UP OR NOT EITHER. GABBY, THE LIGHTS JUST POINTING OUT THAT I'M. WHAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO STUDY INTERSECTION. WISE WAS ONE OF FOUR AND BORE.

ONE OF FOUR AND HAWTHORNE ONE OF FOUR INSIDE OF METALS BOULEVARD, OF COURSE, ONE OF FOUR AND 6 65, OF COURSE. 6 65 AND STATE ROUTE 3, 17 AND 23. YEAH, SO YOU KNOW AGAIN. MEAN? WE PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE MORE DIALOGUE WITH CITY ENGINEERING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WHY THEY PICK WHAT THEY DID. BUT YOU KNOW AGAIN, WE PROPOSE THEY TELL US AND THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED. OKAY YEAH, TOTALLY UNDERSTOOD. BUT I JUST THINK WE MISSED SOMETHING. IN THE STUDY BY NOT INCLUDING THAT. AND WE'RE NOT APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR THIS IS JUST REASON. PDR YES. GIVE US MORE CONTROL. RYAN I MEAN, IT'S THE PDR GIVES THE CITY MORE CONTROL OVER THE OF THE PROJECT. AND I JUST HEARD ME TODAY WE ARE. THIS IS A HEARING ON OUR TEXT. WE ARE COMING BACK THROUGH WITH OUR PLAN ITSELF. UM. YOU KNOW WE CAN TRY TO HAVE MORE DIALOGUE WITH. THE CITY ENGINEERS IN TERMS OF THE SCOPE AND WHY THEY MADE DECISIONS.

BUT TODAY. TODAY IS A REVIEW OF THE TAX. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. IS TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THE POINTS THAT YOU MADE AND I APPRECIATE HIM.

YOU YOU CLARIFIED SOME THINGS. REGARDING THE LOT SIZES. I FEEL LIKE THE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IS A BIT SCARED BECAUSE THIS IS A GORGEOUS PARCEL THAT HAS THAT. STREAM CORRIDOR RUNNING THROUGH IT. FACTOR THAT INTO THE CALCULATION OF DWELLING UNIT BREAKER. YOU COME OUT WITH THE NUMBER. IT'S SMALLER THAN WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE BUILT OUT AREA. SO I COULD SEE HOW YOU KNOW THE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IS VERY FAVORABLY. UM REPRESENTED ON THIS PROPERTY. BECAUSE OF THE SKEW OF THAT. STREAM CORRIDOR. ON THE AND I THINK ONE OF THE

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UM AND I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY IS HERE FOR A BIT HIGHER SCALE DEVELOPMENT. THERE CERTAINLY IS AN AWFUL LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING OUTSIDE OF THE GROSS CITY BORDERS SOUTH OF THIS, YOU CAN GO TO TWO MILES SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY. BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT, UM. TO I'D LOVE TO SEE US RESERVE GROUP CITIES PRIME PROPERTY FOR THE BEST DEVELOPED WE COULD. CAN DO. REGARDING THE SIDE LOAD OF GARAGES, THE WORDING OF UP TO 10% OF THE SINGLE FAMILY. SUB AREAS MAY ACCOMMODATE MAY ACCOMMODATE SIDELOADING GARAGES, WHICH WOULD BE WILLING TO STIPULATE A CERTAIN. NOT LESS THAN PERCENTAGE, OR COULD WE WIND UP WITH NO SIDE LOADED GARAGES HAVE CUSTOMERS DON'T BUY. WHAT WE KNOW. WE KNOW WE WON'T WIND UP WITH ZERO BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A MARKET FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, PUT PLENTY OF FOLKS WANT THAT. YOU DON'T WANT THAT CONDITION. UM I GUESS WE COULD. WE'D BE WILLING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE PLAN. IF THAT WORKS FOR THE FUNDING COMMISSION, WE'LL TRY TO WORK THAT THROUGH WITH STAFF. PART OF THE PART OF THE ISSUE HERE IS WE DON'T HAVE FINAL ENGINEERING YET, SO TO BE ABLE TO SUCCINCTLY SAY EXACTLY HOW MANY LOTS WILL ACTUALLY SUPPORT ASIDE LOAD BECAUSE THAT'S A FUNCTION OF, YOU KNOW. THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE LOT LINE AND THE DRIVEWAY. AND YOU KNOW THE. THE TURNING RADIUS ON THE LOT. THERE'S MORE. IT'S THERE'S MORE. PLAY THERE, THEN.

UM THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WITH BEFORE THAT ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING IS DONE, SO THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY. BUT TO WORK AT THE OTHER WAY, YOU KNOW WE'D BE WILLING TO TRY TO DO THAT. AND IF IT'S APPROPRIATE COME BACK BECAUSE WE ARE COMING BACK HERE WITH OUR PLAN. UM PEOPLE WILL TRY TO WORK WITH YOU ON IT. CAN WORK WITH STAFF.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT A LOT OF THIS IS A LITTLE PREMATURE. THERE SEEMS TO BE AN AWFUL LOT OF QUESTIONS STILL ON THE TABLE THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO. SAID ONE UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY OF RECOMMEND ANY TYPE OF LOWERING THE SPEED LAMENT ON 6 65 AT ALL IT TYPICALLY TOO. APPROACH OH DOT TO REQUEST THAT. UM IS A IS A PROCESS THAT'S CALLED THE SPEED STUDY AND. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME OF THOSE OVER THE YEARS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOMEONE HAS TO COME FROM THE JURISDICTION DELETE. IT HAS TO COME FROM THE CITY. UM IT'S A MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A PETITION PROCESS. THE ODA TOO. TO APPROACH THEM FOR THAT. UM WE DID FIND OUT IN TALKING WITH THEM AND LOOKING INTO THE MATTER FURTHER THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT GREAT POSTED SIGNAGE THERE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE DID TALK WITH THEM ABOUT IMPROVING AND WE JIM HILL'S ACTUALLY MET WITH THEM AND CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CONVERSATION WITH HIM. TO YOUR POINT. WE ACTUALLY ASKED THEM TO DO THAT STUDY TO LOOK AT THAT. UM. POTENTIALLY REDUCING THE SPEAK LIMIT THERE. AND THE POST MORE SIGNS. WE PUT THOSE COMMENTS. IN WRITING TO THEM. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE LIKE TOM SAID. THERE'S A LACK OF SIGNAGE THERE. TERMS OF WHEN YOU GET TO THE CURVE. UM AND POSTED SPEED LIMIT AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S YOU AND I JUST THINK THERE'S A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE HERE, BUT YOU CAN KEEP THE TRUCKS OFF THE JAKE BREAKS WHEN THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THERE. I'M SURE THAT WOULD HELP. I KNOW.

SOMETIMES YOU CAN POST SIGNS, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU POLICE IT BUT THINK REDUCING THE SPEED. CERTAINLY KEEPS TRUCKS FROM. FROM YOU KNOW, HITTING THAT LOUD JAKE BREAK, SO IT WAS A LITTLE SURPRISING THAT THERE REALLY THERE ARE NO SIGNS, SO THAT'S LIKE JIM SAID. IT'S WE ARE WAITING FOR THEM TO WE WERE ASKING FOR THEIR RESPONSE, YOU KNOW, BACK IN WRITING.

DEFINITELY COULD BE IMPROVED THAT CONDITIONS COULD BE IMPROVED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. MY NAME IS ERIC HOLDER 6 75 LONDON GROVE PORT ROAD. TOM. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES. YOU GUYS ADDRESS SOME OF THE ONES ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY. UM I LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT HE SAID THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS NOT FINISHED AND THEN BACKTRACKED AND SAID THAT IT WAS FINISHED. IT LOOKS LIKE A JOKE TO ME. IF YOU'VE

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AND WE'RE ALL WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE TIME THAT SOMETHING REALLY SERIOUS HAPPENS. UM SO I JUST. FEEL LIKE ALL THIS STUFF THAT WE HEARD TODAY. IT'S NOT READY TO GO FORWARD ANY FURTHER BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT. DONE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. GO FURTHER. YOU CAN POINT THE FINGER AT O DOT YOU CAN POINT THE FINGER AT WHOEVER YOU WANT. IT'S NOT READY TO BE, UM START WRITING LOOK FORWARD. THANK YOU. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO RESPOND? COMMISSION? WELL. UM.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT CAME OVER THIS SUBDIVISION. UM. AND ON BOARD ROAD THAT ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD NEED TO BE WIDENED BEFORE WE IMPROVED IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I AGREE. I'M SORRY. I'LL MOVE YOUR NAME, BUT. THAT STATE ROUTE ONE OF FOUR AND 6 65 100 CHANGE REALIZED THAT DOESN'T AFFECT HER DEVELOPMENT. BUT. THE TRAFFIC THERE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE. MORE HE'S SAYING ABOUT THE WAREHOUSES IS TRUE AND YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC. AT THAT INTERCHANGES IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE SO. NUMBERS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT. THIS IS A LAND USE HEARING. IT'S A HEARING ON OUR TEXT.

TRAFFIC REGULATION IS ADMINISTERED AND HAS DIFFERENT AUTHORITY. UNDER UNDER CITY ORDINANCES AND, YOU KNOW, STATE LAW. BY THE TRAFFIC, ENGINEERING, PUBLIC TRUST AND PROFIT ENGINEERS THAT REGULATE TRAFFIC. AND IT. WE DIDN'T COME PREPARED TO HATE TO HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY HEARING BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE PROCESS WERE REGULATED SEPARATELY AND DIFFERENTLY WITH TRAFFIC. AND THERE'S A LOT OF CASE LAW ABOUT TRAFFIC AND YOU KNOW OUT RELEASE THE ZONING. BUT, YOU KNOW. WE CAN'T COME BACK TO OUR HEARING ON OUR ON OUR PLAN. AND YOU KNOW, HAVE A FULL BLOWN PRESENTATION. THE TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS AND WE'LL REQUEST THE SIN CITY ENGINEERS TO BE HERE AS WELL. TYPICALLY THAT IS NOT WHAT HOW TRAFFIC RELATION OCCURS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO DELINEATE EXACTLY WHEN THE COUNTS WERE DONE EXACTLY WHAT ELSE WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? WE'LL WALK THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. TOM. BUT WE WEREN'T WE WEREN'T EXPECTING AND DON'T TYPICALLY EXPECT TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY HEARING AT A PLANNING COMMISSION. UM WELL, WILL PREPARE WORK WITH STAFF ON HOW WE COULD PRESENT TO YOU. UH MORE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

YOU KNOW WHEN WE COME NEXT TIME ON THE PLAN THAT IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION WOULD WANT, AND GOOD INTENTIONS TO HEAR, HEAR THE ISSUES THAT ARE OUT. BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS THE TEXT GOES, AND THAT'S WE'RE HERE. GO DRAFTS. LUTELY THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT PLANNING COMMISSION IS, YOU KNOW, WE GET INFORMATION FROM OTHER SOURCES LIKE NOT JUST THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, BUT YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AND IT'S ALWAYS ENCOURAGED BECAUSE YEAH, THINGS THAT, UM. YOU KNOW, ARE OUT THERE THAT FOLKS SEE EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. THAT'S THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT WE CERTAINLY WANT. SO WHEN THAT COMES UP, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF TWO SO THAT YOU KNOW

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UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU WILL STEP UP FOR THE NEXT TIME ON TRACK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OR ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. YES PLEASE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. IT CALMS DOWN AND SOMEONE 55 JACKSON PARK. I'LL STAY ON TOPIC, UM, DENSITY OF THE HOMES. USING THE TERM. FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND 350 TO $400,000 HOMES. I DON'T MIX. THAT'S IF YOU WANT TO STAY ON TOPIC THAT'S WRONG. IT'S JUST MORE HOUSES OR MY SO. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. 8 91 GROUP PORT ROAD. SOME KIND OF RIGHT ON THE CORNER. WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE. AND. I KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU KNOW, KIND OF AN INCONVENIENCE FOR THIS BIOTA MEADOWS COMMUNITY TO PUT THAT TURN LINE THERE, BUT WHAT ABOUT ME RIGHT ON THAT CORNER. I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT I INVITE ANY. TO CONSIDER IN MY DRIVEWAY AT ANY POINT IN TIME. ESPECIALLY DURING BUSY HOURS AND ATTEMPT TO GET OUT. AND MOST DEFINITELY ATTEMPT TO TURN LEFT. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. UNLESS SOMEONE LETS ME OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY. MOST OF THE TIME. I DON'T GET UP. AND THEN COMING IF I GO SHOPPING, GO TO THE GROCERY STORE ADMIRE. WHEN I COME HOME, YOU KNOW, I TURNED LEFT INTO MY DRIVEWAY.

WELL, GUESS WHAT IT'S BLOCKED BECAUSE. NOBODY YOU KNOW, PAYS ATTENTION TO. HEY, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY. GUESS WHAT HAPPENS. I STOPPED TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. SO THEN GUESS WHAT? THE TRAFFIC GOING THIS WAY WANTS TO TURN LEFT. THEY CAN'T TURN LEFT BECAUSE THEY'RE BLOCKING THE INTERSECTION AND UNBLOCKING IT BECAUSE I CAN'T TURN ON MY DRIVEWAY. SO I JUST THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW? AS FAR AS THE WHOLE. ADD THIS MANY MORE HOUSES IN THIS MUCH MORE TRACK. NO. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND. EVERYBODY WANTS MORE HOUSES. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT. THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO PUT. THANK YOU. WHEN SHE LIKED TO SPEAK. FIRST TO THE FIRST GENTLEMAN, UM ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. BIGGEST FUNCTION TODAY OF THE HOUSING BEFORE ABILITY, CHALLENGES SUPPLY. WE ARE NOT AS A REGION BUILDING ENOUGH HOMES TO KEEP UP WITH THEM IN BECAUSE WE'RE CREATING JOBS. AND THAT IS, UM THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE OF MAJOR AFFORDABILITY. CHALLENGES IS SUPPLY. MM 3 50 IS ABOUT.

YOU CAN BARELY PRODUCE A HOME FOR UNDER. 325 IN TODAY'S MARKET, JUST BASED ON MATERIALS LABOR. DELIVERY EVERYTHING THE TIME IT TAKES TO BUILD A HOME. ALL THE REQUIREMENTS GO WITH IT ON THE REGULATORY SIDE. DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTION, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, ALL OF IT. SO YOU KNOW, SUPPLIES A KEY. THE 3 50 PRICE POINT IS ACTUALLY A FAIRLY RARE ANIMAL.

UM, THAT. THAT WILL HELP WITH MONITORING PRICING OVERALL. IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE THE WHERE THE YOUNG LADY LIVES. I THINK SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, IN THAT ONE.

OH, FOUR REALM. AGAIN. WE ARE REAL. I JUST AGAIN, I WOULD POINT OUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I DESCRIBED THAT THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD. PROBABLY HELP MOVE TRAFFIC ON ONE OF FOUR GENERALLY. UM. MY MAIN COMMON ABOUT SOME MEADOWS IS THAT IN OUR IN OUR VIEW. CUTTING OFF THAT ACCESS. AND SEND EVERYBODY THROUGH SIDE OF MODELS, IT IS NOT SOLUTION. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO WORK WELL. IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HELP ONE BEFORE THAT MUCH EITHER COMPARED TO MAKING THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS WERE REQUIRED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON ONE OF FOUR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? GREAT HEARING. NONE ARE READY FOR A MOTION MOTION APPLICATION. FIVE COMMUNITIES OF PLUM RON. BEAUTY OUR REASONING WITH ONE STIPULATION. VERY RESPECTFULLY. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE FOR OTHER STIPULATIONS BEFORE WE MOVED TO A FINAL VOTE. YES SO IF THERE'S A

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