Apr 18, 2022 City Council

[Call to Order: President Berry]

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GROSS CITY COUNCIL IS NOW IN SESSION. WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? LITERALLY DO. THANK YOU PUBLIC, OR WE JUST SAID. WITH LITERATURE FOR ALL. CLARK, PLEASE READ THE ROLE. PRESIDENT, MR SEACREST. PRESENT. MR BARRY PRESENT, MR HOLT PRESIDENT IS HELD HERE. UM, IS THE MAYOR ONLINE? OKAY. I'LL MOVE TO EXCUSE THE MAYOR. SECONS YES, YES, YES. CHECK. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT. OTHER THAN YOUR. ON TONIGHT'S

[Approval of Minutes]

[Welcome & Reading of Agenda]

[Ordinance C-25-22 Accept the Plat of Farmstead, Phase 5A, located west of S.R. 104. First reading.]

[Resolution CR-14-22 Approve an Amendment to the Development Plan for the Village at Scioto Meadows located north of Scioto Meadows Blvd., as approved by Res. CR-22 99.]

[Resolution CR-23-22 Approve the Development Plan for Sheridan Dental Building located East of Broadway and South of Parlin Dr.]

[Resolution CR-24-22 Approve the Development Plan for Autumn Grove Addition located at 4550 Rensch Road.]

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CORRECT THIS IS, UM, AUTUMN GROWTH EDITION. AS YOU SEE ON THAT SLIDE. IT IS TO THE WEST OF THE CURRENTLY DEVELOPED PORTIONS OF AUTUMN GRILLED SECTION 123 AND FOUR AND FIVE. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY ZONED STRAIGHT DISTRICT ARE ONE. IT'S NOT ZONED IN A PLANNED DISTRICT. AND SO WE MEET THE R ONE STANDARDS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT NEEDED NO VARIANCES . WE ALSO HAVE COMMITTED TO EXTEND CONNECTIVITY AND PATHS ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. TO CONNECT SECTION 1234 AND FIVE TO THIS EDITION, AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, OPEN SPACE LIKE THAT EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. THE MINIMUM IS 3.67 AND WE ARE UP 4.67 SO. MR BARRY QUESTION, MISS MY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS YOUR QUESTION. OR MAYBE TAKE CHUCK IS THERE ON THE ONE PLAN FOR MORRISSEY CHECK. THERE'S A THERE'S A YOU KNOW, ON OUR ONE PLAN, THERE IS A WAY TO GET TO THE DARBY. UM TAKING RENT ROAD IS THERE ENOUGH OF AN EASEMENT ALONG THAT ROAD THROUGH WHAT WE'VE GOT ALREADY? YES, THERE WOULD BE THANKS, MR MONSTER. I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ACRONYM CBU MAILBOXES. CAN YOU JUST TELL ME CLUSTER MAILBOX LIMITS THAT WOULD BE FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT IN ONE AREA OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND IF I MAY, MR HOPE THAT WAS A CHANGE FROM THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE DO NOT HAVE A VOTE IN THAT. AND, FRANKLY, EVERY NEW SUBDIVISION IN EVERY COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE THESE GROUP MAILBOXES. THAT'S THE POST OFFICE AND THE STIPULATION WAS JUST THEY SHOULD BE LANDSCAPED AND LOOK NICE. OH, YES, AND WE INTENDED TO, OF COURSE, MEET NEXT MEET. AT LEAST THE ZONING CODE PROBABLY EXCEEDED. THE ONLY THING IS, WE SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR ENGINEERING FINALIZED FOR GREETING AND TOPOGRAPHY AT THE TIME OF SUBMISSION OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BUT THAT COMMITMENT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET THE CODE. WE'RE GOING TO BE NEEDING NO VARIANCES IN THE LANDSCAPING SUBMISSIONS WILL BE PROVIDED FOR DETENTION POND AS WELL AS THOSE CB US AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WE CAN TAKE FROM THAT, UM, THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AWARD WINNING BELMAR MAILBOXES, LANDSCAPING. THE TEMPLATE FOR FUTURE WILL BE YES. ABSOLUTELY ON ANOTHER REASON NOT TO GO GET YOUR BILLS . IN FACT, IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN BACK IN THERE LATELY, IT'S A VERY NICE DEVELOPMENT. REALLY TURNED OUT VERY NICE. MR CHAIR? YES YES, MR MULLER. SORRY TO INTERRUPT FROM GOD. I WANT TO GO BACK MR VERY MUCH ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY. MRS MS. SMART SUGGESTED THIS. I JUST WANNA MAKE SHIRT OR I'M 100% RIGHT AND UNDERSTAND THIS. THERE WILL BE A BIKE TRAIL THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO WRENCH ROAD. AND ORAL, AND THE GOAL IS TO RUN IT OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND CONNECT WITH BROADWAY. SO THE QUESTION IS MARRED IS THERE IS A BIKE TRAIL RUNS OUT OF BRANCH BROKE, CORRECT. YES SO THE RANCH ROAD HAS THE PROPOSED PATH IN BLUE ALONG THE FRONTAGE, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO EXTEND IT EVEN IN THE FORMERLY DEVELOPED PORTIONS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT PATH CURRENTLY. WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND AND PAY FOR THAT PATH CONNECTIVITY ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU, MR MARTIN. MR CHAIR. THAT'S MY POINT. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT PIECE BECAUSE IT GETS US AS MR BERRY ENTERED. AH MORE CONNECTIVE ITTY AND IT GETS US ALONG THE WRENCH ROAD AND WE WILL HAVE TO INSTALL PAST THE RIVER ATTRACTS OR EVEN LOVE IT BEFORE, BUT IT GETS US ADDITIONAL HAVING NO CONNECTIVITY. SO THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU. MR MAYOR. MISS CAN I GO AHEAD JUST VERY UNTIL UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT PLAN TOGETHER WITH. I KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION THE MAYOR IS WORKING DILIGENTLY ON CONNECTIVITY OUT TO THE DERBY.

UM THOSE OF US THAT DO BIKE THAT WAY AND THEN DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS AND THEN BACK, CAN YOU? IS IT OR

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MRS HAWKE. YES MR SHARKEY, CRIST. YES MR HOLT? YES. BRINGS US INTO RESOLUTION CR 25 22

[Resolution CR-25-22 Appeal the decision of the Board of Zoning Appeals granting Variances for Height and Screening of Rooftop Mechanicals for American Nitrile located at 3500 Southwest Blvd]

YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON SCREEN THAT SHOWS THE STACKS, THE LOCATION AND KIND OF BUILDING THAT FIVE MEMBER CORRECTLY THERE IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE PARTNER, IF YOU DARE IS SOON RENDERING OF IT THERE. AND YOU SEE THAT THE STACKS ARE IN THE MIDDLE TO THE BACK, AND THERE'S ONE SINGLE STACK OVER. THE SOUTHWEST SIDE AND ANYTHING ELSE? MR BOZO. WE DID HAVE A. PERSPECTIVE THERE IS DRAWING SO IT WOULD SHOW IT AS YOU WOULD SEE THE STACKS FROM DIFFERENT AREAS AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS IN THE DOCUMENTS WITH US, SO YOU KNOW I'M SURE THAT WHEN THESE ARE BUILT, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE. UM AND AGAIN. IF IT VARIES, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. GET TO THE DIFFERENT VIEWS AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION TO SEE HAT ONE STACK OR TWO STEP MULTIPLE. BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE IN THE

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PLEASE OKAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO FIRST START WITH THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY. THE ZONING IS A STRAIGHT I N D TWO CLASSIFICATION, AND WE DID NOT NEED A REZONING FOR THIS BUILDING. IT IS NORTH OF SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD, WHICH THAT ENTIRE AREA IS INDUSTRIAL AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS A PARK WITH THAT IS THAT SUB AREA A COMMERCIAL? PORTION OF THAT PARK DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS A COMPATIBLE USE, OBVIOUSLY FOR THE ZONE DISTRICT HEAD IT'S IN.

THIS IS AN I N D TWO. WHICH IS YOUR HEAVIEST MANUFACTURING. UM, CLASSIFICATION IN THE CITY. NOT THAT THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE NOT DOING HIGH INTENSITY. HEAVY MANUFACTURING HERE. THIS IS FOR MANUFACTURING OF SYNTHETIC GLOVES FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES. AND, UM. ALSO THE USE IS PERMITTED AS LEGAL RIGHT? THE END AGAIN. WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN THE SOUTH IMMEDIATELY TO THIS PARK, BUT IT'S A COMMERCIAL SITE. SOME OF THE MOST EXCITING PARTS OF OUR PRESENT MADE AT THE B. C A, WHICH WAS A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCESS OF FORMAL HEARING WITH TESTIMONY OF EXPERTS WITH EVIDENCE AND FACTS. THIS OPERATION WILL MANUFACTURE 3.5 BILLION. GLOVES ANNUALLY, AND IT WILL BRING 12 ADVANCED CLUB PRODUCTION LINES INTO THIS FACILITY. THERE WILL BE 350 PLUS FULL TIME EMPLOYEES IN THIS OPERATION WILL GO ON FOR 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR. THE ANNUAL PAYROLL FOR THE EMPLOYMENT WILL BE 25 MILLION. AND THERE ARE 141 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER RECYCLED ANNUALLY. £2.8 MILLION OF BULK NITRILE STORAGE CAPACITY WILL BE ON SITE AND THIS IS BRINGING MANUFACTURING BACK TO THE UNITED STATES FROM OVERSEAS. THIS, UM TYPE OF MANUFACTURING PROCESS IS HAPPENING OVERSEAS, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ONLY 1% HAPPENS IN THE U. S OR THE 1% IS THIS OPERATION. NOW THIS IS COMING RIGHT HERE IN CENTRAL OHIO. AND RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY. I THINK ALL OF US CAN BE VERY PROUD ABOUT THAT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO STATE WE DID SEND HER ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE THIS HEARING A MEMO FROM OUR LAW FIRM RELATED TO THE APPEAL NOTICE AND JUST SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT KIND OF COME ABOUT FROM THAT APPEAL.

FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT AND ILLEGAL STANDPOINT AND BECAUSE, OF COURSE, HAVE A CLIENT AND WE HAVE A RECORD TO PROTECT. I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH SOME PROCEDURAL AND LEGAL OBJECTIONS.

TO THE PROCESS. WE CALL THIS HEARING TONIGHT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THAT IF I MAY. IS THAT OKAY? MR SHOCKEY? ACTUALLY IF I MAY, MR SHOCKEY TALKED TO MISS MOP BEFORE THIS AND SHE'S DOING HER JOB. SHE WANTS TO HER AND I HAVE DISCUSSED MANY OF THESE ISSUES. I DON'T AGREE WITH HER ON ALL THESE, HOWEVER, SHE HAS BUILDING THE RECORD TO PROTECT YOUR CLIENTS, SO I HAVE NO ISSUE WHATSOEVER WITH HER GOING FORTH AND AT LEAST DOCUMENTING WHAT HER CLIENT BELIEVES ARE ERRORS IN THE PROCESS. LIKE I SAID, I DON'T AGREE, BUT SHE JUST WANTS TO DOCUMENT THEM FOR THE RECORD, SO I WOULD SAY LET HER GO FORTH AND DO SO, SIR. YOU SO MUCH REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UM IN THE ZONING CODE AND IN THE CHARTER FOR THE CITY OF GROUPS CITY, THERE IS NO ACTUAL PROCESS OR PROCEDURE SPELLED OUT FOR AN APPEAL TO BE TAKEN TO CITY COUNCIL FROM THE B. C. A. THERE'S A RIGHT TO APPEAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT NO PROCESS OR PROCEDURE AT ALL. TYPICALLY, THERE WOULD BE A PROCESS OR PROCEDURE. EVERY COURT IN EVERY STATUTE PROVIDES A PROCEDURE TO APPEAL TO A COURT AS EITHER AN APPEAL TO NOVO 25 OR SIX APPEAL FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE BODY ABUSE EA, FOR EXAMPLE. OR IT'S A

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ON A 25 OR SIX APPEALED TO A COURT BUT IF YOU WERE DOING A REHEARING OR RECONSIDERATION AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NEW EVIDENCE PRESENTED OR FACTS PRESENTED OR TESTIMONY. WE WOULD NEED A COPY OF THAT BEFOREHAND IN THE COMPANY WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO REVIEW IT DURING DISCOVERY. IN A DISCOVERY WOULD BE ADMISSIONS AND REQUESTS FOR IT WILL INTERROGATORY AND ALL SORTS OF DISCOVERY DEVICES. THERE'S NO SURPRISES AT AN APPEAL HEARING BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE TESTIMONY. EVIDENCE AND WITNESS OPINIONS BEFORE SO WE DO NEED TO OBJECT TO THE PROCEDURE IN TERMS OF ALLOWING NEW EVIDENCE OR ANY FACTS OR ANY TESTIMONY OF EXPERTS. WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK THROUGH A REHEARING PROCESS. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RECONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE BBC. A. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO AGAIN, WE OBJECT TO THE TO ANY NEW EVIDENCE BEING BROUGHT IN. AND IF THIS HEARING REGARDING EPA PERMITTING MATTERS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? WE DON'T BELIEVE THE VENUE IS PROPER. WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LOCAL JURISDICTION HAS E P A AUTHORITY. THE STATE E P A IN THE FEDERAL EPA HAVE FEDERAL AND STATE PREEMPTION RIGHTS OVER EPA PERMITTING MATTERS FOR THIS REASON WE OBJECT TO THE PROCEDURE TO DISCUSS EPA PERMITTING MATTERS. AND IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING, AS EVERYTHING WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE'RE NOT HIDING ANYTHING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COOPERATIVE. AND WE WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE A NEED. UM BUT WE DID MEET OUR BURDEN OF PROOF UNDER THE SEVEN FACTORS.

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THIS IS ANY DECISION YOU MAKE ARE GOING TO BE BASED ON FACTS AND EVIDENCE PERIOD. UM WHEN IT COMES TO REZONING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE. WHEN IT'S LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE, WE CAN. WE CAN FACTOR IN FOLKS OPINIONS. I LIKE THIS. I DON'T LIKE THIS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. WHEN IT COMES TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. IT'S MORE AKIN TO A JUDICIAL PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE TO RELY ON FACTS AND EVIDENCE. UM SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THE APPEAL IS IN THE PROPER PLACE IN TERMS OF COUNCIL PRESIDENT BARRY FILED THIS APPEAL WHICH THE CODE GIVES HIM EVERY RIGHT TO DO. I HAVE ALSO ADVISED MR BARRY AND ALL OF COUNCIL THAT MR BARRY DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON THIS APPEAL. UM BECAUSE OUR CODE ALLOWS IT TO BE FILED THIS WAY.

AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, HE HAS THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON IT SO UM TRY TO THINK THERE'S ANYTHING I'M MISSING IN TERMS OF THE ISSUES MISMARKED RACE, AND LIKE I SAID, I, MISS MARTIN. I DISCUSSED THIS. I MEAN, SHE HAD TO REPRESENT OUR CLIENT AND PUT ALL THAT ON THE RECORD. I GET IT. SHE'S DOING HER JOB. UM BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE READY AND ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH HEARING THIS APPEAL WITH ALL FIVE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THAT OBJECTION IT ACTUALLY I ONE OTHER THING I FORGOT TO SAY, UM I DO AGREE WITH MISS MARK THAT WE ARE NOT THE OHIO IPA. WE DON'T CLAIM TO BE, HOWEVER. AS PART OF THIS VARIANCE, THIS VARIANCE DID INCLUDED CONDITION THAT THEY MUST OBTAIN HIGHER. WE PAY APPROVAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STUFF COMING OUT OF THE STACKS IS APPROPRIATE AND NOT HARMFUL, SO WE DID TIE THE APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCES TO THE OHIO E P A PERMIT THAT THEY MUST RECEIVE. UM SO THEY ARE SOMEWHAT TIED TOGETHER. WE ARE NOT HERE TO PLAY THE OHIO EPA. THEY'RE REVIEWING THIS APPLICATION. I KNOW THEY'RE EXPERTS AND OUR EXPERTS HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROCESS. SO WE ARE NOT MAKING DECISIONS AT THE OHIO EPA WOULD MAKE. HOWEVER WE DID TIE THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANTS TO THEM OBTAINING OHIO EPA APPROVAL SO THAT WE KNEW WHATEVER WAS COMING OUT OF THE STACKS WOULD NOT BE HARMFUL UNDER THE STANDARDS SET BY THE OHIO IPA. AND YOU WOULD ALSO MENTIONED TO ME THAT ANYONE GIVING TESTIMONY OTHER THAN THE ATTORNEY FOR THE FOR THE PETITIONER? YES SO IT SHOULD BE SWORN IN? YES. SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL HAVE, UM, OBVIOUSLY, THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO

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WHO'S OUR EPA PERSON? HOWEVER ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO GIVE TESTIMONY TODAY WILL PROBABLY DO A GROUP SWEARING IN. ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT, JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THE TRUTH AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. JUSTIN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THINGS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO WITH THE B. C. A AND THAT'S PART OF THE PART OF THE PROCESS. UNDER OKAY , MISMARKED COULD YOU RETURNED TO THE PODIUM FOR A SECOND? YOU KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO. I KNOW THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT JUST ANSWERING QUESTIONS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME, YOUR TEAM HAS SOME INFORMATION THAT IS PROBABLY WOULD BE PRESENTED AGAIN JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL ON THERE. WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE FROM YOUR TEAM, AND IF YOU WILL INTRODUCE THEM, PLEASE AND IT'S THEY COME UP AND SPEAK. WE HAVE MR ALEX MALESANI, WHO'S WITH AMERICAN NATURAL. HE'S A SENIOR EXECUTIVE AND AN ENGINEER. HE'S IN CHARGE OF OPERATIONS. HE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT IS BEING EMITTED FROM THE STACKS. IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ARISE, OKAY. AND YOU KNOW THAT FOR TALKING WHEN I WASN'T IN FRONT OF THE MICROPHONE LAST TIME, SO I WON'T DO THAT THIS TIME. UM WHO IS DRIVING RIGHT NOW? ON THE RIGHT , ALEXANDER MALICE AND 3500 SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD 43213 FROM ALISON, SINCE YOU'RE CALLED UP JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE STACKS IF YOU LIMIT YOUR INFORMATION TO THAT, AND ABSOLUTELY OKAY. UM AM I ABLE TO SWIPE ON THIS? OR IS SOMEONE ELSE DRIVING THE PRESENTATION? UM I THINK BACK TO ONE MORE PLEASE. MHM. KEEP GOING. SORRY. FORWARD. ONE MORE. SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS KIND OF EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY THE STACKS ARE EXISTING ON THE BUILDING, RIGHT? I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHY IT HELPS YOU TO REALLY UNDERSTAND. WHY WHY THEY ARE SO TALL. IN THE TOP OF THE SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS OUR PROCESS, RIGHT? SO THE TOTAL OF 77 DIFFERENT STEPS THAT ARE ON INVOLVED IN OUR PRODUCTION LINES TO MAKE A GLOVE. UM SO LONG, SHORTER PROCESSES DIPPING THING THAT LOOKS LIKE A HAND DIPPING IN AT NIGHT TRAVEL OR DIPPING IT IN WATER. WE'RE DIPPING IN OTHER CHEMICALS, DEFINITELY AN ACID, DIPPING IT IN THE BASE. AND AT THE END OF IT, IT IS A GLOVE.

IT'S A MILE LONG PROCESS TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST AND THE BIGGEST PORTION IS I'M TAKING A SOLID THAT IS SUSPENDED IN WATER , GETTING IT TO STICK TO A THING LIKE THIS, AND I'M REMOVING THE WATER. NOW I'M REMOVING THE WATER. FROM BALKANIZATION, SO THAT REQUIRES HEAT THAT REQUIRES COMBUSTION THAT REQUIRES YOU TO USE NATURAL GAS AND I'M USING IT IN AN OVEN. SO I THINK LIKE A FURNACE AT YOUR HOME ON THE EXACT SAME PROCESS JUST ON A MUCH LARGER SCALE. SO THE REASON THAT I HAVE TO HAVE A STACKS ON THE BUILDING IS TO HELP REMOVE THAT MOIST AIR FROM THE AREAS THAT THE OVENS ARE. GET IT OUT OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE HAVING OUR EMPLOYEES WORKING AND EMITTED INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. THAT'S ONE USE OF THE STACKS THAT WE HAVE, AND I CAN POSITIVE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF I MAY HAVE BROUGHT SOME TELL ME WHAT YOU YOU'RE PASSING THAT THROUGH, UM, SCRUBBERS. ARE YOU DOING IT THROUGH SCRUBBERS WITH THAT AND THEN OUT? AND YOU'RE AFFLUENT.

IT COMES OUT THE CHIMNEY AT THE TOP OF HIS. YES SO THAT THAT AREA WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE SAME AIR THAT I BREATHE IN THE FACILITY EVERY SINGLE DAY. UM THERE'S IS QUITE LITERALLY THE SAME AIR INSIDE THE FACILITY. IF YOU WERE WALKING IN THAT IS ERIC COMING OUT OF THOSE STACKS.

THERE IS NO SCRUBBER. SO THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS ON THE EMISSIONS TAX. I'LL CALL THEM CORRECT. UM THE OTHER USED, WHICH I THINK YOU'RE ALLUDING TO WOULD BE THE CORONATION STACK, SO WE HAVE SOME VERY EXPENSIVE TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL BE INSTALLED IN THE FACILITY THAT WILL TAKE AIRFRAME ARE CORONATION PROCESS AND IT WILL TAKE THE AIR AND STRUCK IT SO SCRUBBING IS A FANCY WAY OF SAYING CREATING A CHEMICAL REACTION. SO I'M USING A ONE CHEMICAL AND THEN THE CHLORINE AND I'M MORE OR LESS, MAKING THEM NON HAZARDOUS AND MAKING IT SIMILAR PH OF SEVEN, WHICH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPECTRUM, RIGHT, SO THE DESCRIBING TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE IS VERY MUCH STATE OF THE ART. EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF AIR THAT IS IN THAT UNIT OF WORK IS GOING THROUGH THAT SCRUBBER AND THEN GETTING ADMITTED OUT OF OUR FACILITY NOW THE CONCENTRATION THE BEST WAY I CAN SAY, AND THIS IS KIND OF A FUN COMPARISON. SO UH, IF YOU EVER MENTION AN INSIDE POOL, IT WAS CORONATED, RIGHT? YOU WALK INTO THAT ROOM, AND YOU SMELL IT RIGHT? THAT'S SOME. THAT'S SOME KOREAN. SO WHAT YOU'RE SMELLING IS PROBABLY

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THAT'S ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS BE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE UNDER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD. WE'RE MODELING OR SCRUBBING TECHNOLOGY AT 0.2 PPM SO LOWER THAN WHAT WOULD BE IN AN INSIDE ENVIRONMENT. FOR A POOL NOW TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS, UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DO HAVE POOLS OUTSIDE THAT ARE COORDINATED. THINK ABOUT IT. UM, YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE SITTING BY YOUR POOL IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER, AND IT'S NICE AND HOT AND YOU'RE ENJOYING A BEVERAGE CAN YOU SMELL CHLORINE? I CAN'T PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S ADMITTING INTO THE ATMOSPHERE RIGHT? SO THAT SAME CONCENTRATION CONTAINING IT. ABSOLUTELY I CAN SMELL IT. I MEAN, A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT. I'M ADMITTING IT TO THE ATMOSPHERE. CANNOT BE SMELLED DESPITE THE EASIEST WAY TO SAY IT. SO 0.2 PPM IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE THRESHOLD FOR THE E P A ON ADMISSION ON THAT ON CHLORINE, SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING CONVERSATION. WHAT WE'RE THE EPA , WHERE THEY WOULD CARE ABOUT WOULD BE AN OVERALL AMOUNT OF TONS OF BEING MILLION FROM THE FACILITY IN THE YEAR. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR OPERATION OPERATING AT ONE YEAR, WE NEED TO STAY BELOW 10.5 NOW ANOTHER FUN 0.5 TONS 0.5 PPM EXCUSE PPM.

SO ANOTHER ANOTHER NUMBER THAT IS INTERESTING AS WELL AS WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FROM OSHA.

SO A HUMAN BEING PER OSHA CAN WORK INSIDE OF THE SPACE SUCH AS THIS ROOM FOR EIGHT HOURS AT 80.8 PPM. WHAT I'M ADMITTING OUT OF MY STACKS IS LESS THAN A QUARTER OF THAT. OUTSIDE SO THAT WOULD BE IN A CONFINED SPACE OPERATING AT 0.8 PPM IS WHAT OSHA SAYS THAT IN A HUMAN BEING CAN IF I'M AN EMPLOYER, I CAN TELL THEM TO OPERATE IN A SPACE FOR EIGHT HOURS. I'M EMITTING OUT OF MY FACILITY. ONE QUARTER OF THAT YEAR'S HIS POINT TO CORRECT, SIR. OKAY? ANY QUESTIONS, MR BARRY JUST SO. WHY DID YOU NEED THE STACKS TO BE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN? THEN WHAT YOU CAN DO WITHOUT PERMISSION. YEAH THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT 35 FT IS BASICALLY WHAT I'M ALLOWED TO BUILD THAT FOR MY FACILITY, 35 FT OF THE TOTAL HEIGHT FROM GREAT, RIGHT SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE EPA IS GOING TO LOOK AS THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE GROUND LEVEL CONCENTRATION. SO THAT'S UM EITHER AN HOUR 24 HOUR OR A YEARLY CONCENTRATION AT GROUND LEVEL. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THOSE STACKS DO THAT HELPS TO GET CERTAIN PARTICULATES INTO THE AIR AND ACTUALLY REACTING TO CREATE NON HAZARDOUS PARTICLES.

SO IF I DID NOT HAVE THAT STACK HEIGHT I WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE PUTTING CARBON MONOXIDE AND NITROUS OXIDE ONTO THE GROUND FLOOR LEVELS FOR MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE OPERATING RIGHT BEHIND ME AT A LEVEL THAT WOULD BE UNSAFE, ACCORDING TO THE OHIO E P A. SO I'M LITERALLY RAISING MY STACK HEIGHTS TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR MY EMPLOYEES, MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS. TO BE OPERATING WITHIN THAT SPACE. SHOULD THEY WANT TO WHAT? MR CHAIRMAN? YES. GO AHEAD. WHAT OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN GLORY, AND I MEAN WHAT WILL BE ADMITTED INTO THE AIR? OTHER THAN CHLORINE. I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S ADMITTED IN THERE? YES, I THINK LIKE A BURNER AT YOUR HOME. EXCUSE ME LIKE A FURNACE AT YOUR HOME. RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE A YOU SHOULD HAVE A STAT COMING OFF YOUR FURNACE AND COMING OUT OF THAT IS A VERY CLEAN BURNING NATURAL GAS CAN COMBUSTION THAT WOULD BE CARBON MONOXIDE, NITROUS OXIDE AND HER YOUR TWO LARGEST. BISHOP. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHEMICALS COMING OUT OF THE OUT OF THAT SNACK AND ALL, THEN JUST CHLORINE AND THAT THAT'S IT. YES ONE THING I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SEPARATE. IF SOMEONE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE , I BELIEVE, JUST JUST I CAN POINT IT OUT. SO ON THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER THAT ONE STACK THAT'S OVER IN THE CORNER THERE. THAT WOULD BE THE CLIP THE STACK THAT'S EMITTING THE CHLORINE AND THEN THE REST OF THEM WOULD BE THE BURNER INFLUENCE. SO JUST MAKE SURE THEY'RE SEPARATED. BUT YES STANDS YOUR QUESTION. THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONLY THINGS THAT WE ARE MODELING AGAINST ONLY THINGS THAT WE'RE PUTTING STACKS ARE BUILDING FOR AGAIN. THE CHLORINE YOU ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT. OF THE STACK CORRECT, ADMIT THE CHLORINE HIGHER INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. EXACT HE ASKED FOR A HEIGHT, HE ASKED FOR A HEIGHT INCREASE TO BE ABLE TO MEET OUR COMPLIANCE TO THE HIGHER UPS. IT WAS NOT TO ADMIT IT AT A HIGHER LEVEL. WE WANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. I UNDERSTAND AGAIN. THE REASON FOR THAT IS WHAT WHY DID YOU NEED THE HIGHER STACK AGAIN? IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR HIGHER UK. BUT WHY WOULD THEY SAY THAT? YOU'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LOWER STACK? FORD ALL STACKS. NOT FOR THE KOREAN STACK KOREAN STACKED. SO, UM, ACTUALLY, WITH THE TONS THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT FOR A YEAR

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THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 55 TO 60. FT. I BELIEVE AND THAT WAS JUST A MECHANICAL HEIGHT. IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT. WASN'T CHAIRMAN. I'M SORRY. I'M STILL HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING IF YOU DIDN'T NEED TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT. THEN WHY ARE YOU? WHY EVEN WHY EVEN ASK FOR SPECIAL USE FOR IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO RIGHT? THE VARIANCE. SORRY I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. YEAH I MEAN, WHY ARE WE EVEN DISCUSSING A VARIANCE IF YOU DON'T NEED IT? SO MY MECHANICAL STRUCTURE IS I'M FOR THE ONE CHLORINE STACK RIGHT? ONE CHLORINE STACK. MECHANICAL STRUCTURE IS I'M TAKING THE AIR OUT OF THE SCRUBBERS RIGHT AT THE DECK OF MY BUILDING. I NEED TO BE ABLE TO FORM IT INTO THE WAY THAT I WANT TO HEAR JAZZ ABOUT 20 FT OF HEIGHT TO THAT STACK. THE REST OF THEM IS STRICTLY FOR THE GROUND THAT WILL CONCENTRATIONS FOR THE OHIO EPA. JUST ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. IF YOU'RE BUILDING WAS ALREADY 60 FT. TALL. OR 70 FT. TALL, WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE TALKING RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S JUST YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S THE CARDS. YOU WERE DEALT WITH A 35 FT BUILDING AND THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES. FOR AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. HERE IS DISPERSION. CORRECT BECAUSE TOO CLOSE TO THE GROUND. YOUR CONCENTRATION IS GOING TO BE TOO HIGH. CHLORINE GAS IS TOXIC. THEREFORE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE UP HIGH ENOUGH TO GET THE PREVAILING WINDS AND YOU DON'T WANT ANY TEMPERATURE, INVERSIONS OR FOG. THERE'S GOING TO INTERFERE. WITH YOUR CHLORINE DISPERSION. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SAID A LOT OF WORDS THERE AND YOU KNOW WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROCESS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT YOU SAY CHLORINE GAS. THAT'S THAT'S SCARY, RIGHT? EVEN FOR ME, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SCARY. I'M HIRING 350 EMPLOYEES AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS IS A SAFE PLACE TO WORK. I HAVE NEIGHBORS GONNA TELL THEM THIS IS A SAFE PLACE. ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE YOU'RE WAS AN API REGULATIONS AND THEY SET THE STANDARDS AND OSHA SETS THE STANDARDS FOR WORKING ON THERE. DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE NITROUS OXIDE AND THE CARBON MONOXIDE THAT'S INCOMPLETE COMBUSTION COMING OUT OF YOUR OVENS ON THERE FROM THE HEAT. HOW COME YOU'RE NOT GETTING COMPLETE COMBUSTION IN THE CARBON DIOXIDE? SO THAT WOULD BE FROM THE NATURAL GAS BURNING TWO LARGEST SOURCES SHOULD BE CARBON MONOXIDE AND NITROUS OXIDE. SO N O X AT THAT POINT. BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING INCOMPLETE COMBUSTION IN THERE TO COME TO CARBON DIOXIDE. UM YOU HAVE BOTH. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S THE BEST THING TO SAY YOU HAVE. IT WILL BE COMPLETE COMBUSTION, SO CARBON MONOXIDE CARBON DIOXIDE. OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE STACKS ON THERE. RIGHT? NEXT ONE ON YOUR TEAM THAT CAN TALK ABOUT THE HEIGHT. AND ARE YOU JUST PART OF THE VARIANCE ON HERE ABOUT THE SKIRTING WITH THE HEIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE VARIANTS ON THERE? YEAH, I CAN INTRODUCE. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SAME PERSONS THAT WENT THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION PREVIOUSLY. SO I HAVE MIKE SPANGLER FROM OUR DESIGN FROM OUR DESIGN TEAM FROM DYNAMICS, VERY GENAO. MM HMM. SPEAKING COME ON. THANK YOU SO MUCH APPRECIATE YOU. MR SPANGLER NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. MY VOICE A LITTLE BIT THIS WEEKEND. MICHAEL SPANGLER 855 GRAND VIEW AVENUE. COLUMBUS OHIO, 43215. AND I AM WITH VARIED G SORRY. I'M WITH TARAJI, BUT WE WERE FORMALLY DYNAMICS ENGINEERING. SO IF YOU GUYS SEE THAT LOGO ON SOME OF THE PLANS, UM FOR THE SAME ENGINEERING TEAM THAT DID IT. SO IF I COULD HAVE, WHOEVER IS RUNNING THIS GO A COUPLE SLIDES FURTHER. YEAH, WE COULD PROBABLY STAR HERE SO UM WHAT? I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON REAL QUICK, AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE ALL SEEN THESE. BASICALLY WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME DIFFERENT VANTAGE POINTS OF WHAT THE BUILDING ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY OR WHEN YOU'RE IN THE VIEW OF THE PARK. DEVELOPMENT IT'S HARD TO WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 65 FT. TALL STACKS AND YOU SEE THE BUILDING. YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW BIG THE BUILDING IS. IT'S OVER 500,000 SQUARE FEET. THE STACKS ON THE NORTH END ARE ABOUT 1200 FT FROM SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. SO WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS, THERE'S PERSPECTIVE. SO WHEN YOU YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THE NORTHSIDE STACKS WHEN YOU'RE ON SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD, SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ISOMETRIC VIEW. OBVIOUSLY YOU SEE THE LARGE STACKS ON THE ROOF AND THE THEY LOOK BIG, BUT TO BE

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THE SCREENING WOULD GO TOTALLY TO THE TOP OF THE STACK. IS THAT TRUE? MIKE, IS THAT TRUE? FIRST MONEY. ACCORDING TO CODE. AND THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF SKIRTING OR SCREENING AROUND EACH OF THESE STACKS AND MECHANICALS ON THE ROOF. SO THAT THEY WOULD BECOME YOU WOULDN'T JUST SEE THE STACK. YOU WOULD SEE THE SCREENING AND OKAY, MR BARRETT, TRUE OR WHAT? WHAT IS WHAT IS THE DEFINITE WHAT IS OUR DEFINITION CALLS FOR SCREENING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING. TO THE HEIGHT OF THE STACKS OF SO IT'S THE WHOLE BUILDING FOREVER. NOT JUST AROUND THE STATS. OKAY SO THE WHOLE BUILDING WILL HAVE TO BE A WALL THAT WE GO UP. AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING WORKS THE HEIGHT OF THAT STAFF, 73 FT. 73 FT ABOVE THE ABOVE THE ROOF LINE. GRANT GROUND LEVEL. GROUND LEVEL, WHICH IS ABOUT 38 FT. 30. THINK IT'S ABOUT 38 38 FT MAN, SIR. I ASK YOU, CAN YOU IS THIS IS THE VIEW FROM FROM SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD AND THE STAFF IN MY CORRECT WOULD BE RIGHT ON THIS SIDE OF BUILDING YOU CAN SO I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY PLAIN SIGHT. THIS IS I'M ON. I'M SITTING ON SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. THAT'S SOUTHWESTERN COLUMBUS AND NO, THAT'S JUST SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. IF WE GO? YEAH AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE VIEWS I SHOWED. UH NO. GO RIGHT THERE. SO THAT'S THAT'S A SOUTHWEST IN COLUMBUS. SO YOU CAN AGAIN YOU CAN SEE A PORTION OF THAT STACK? YES. PORTION OF IT. FOR ALL OF IT. I MEAN, THAT'S THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. CORRECT. THAT IS THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING? YES CORRECT. BUT THERE IS I MEAN AGAIN. IT'S SETBACK. IT'S NOT SET BACK AS FAR AS THOSE MIDDLE STACKS SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF IT, BUT IT'S NOT THE FULL HEIGHT. I'M JUST JUST THAT'S THE VIEW THAT I SAW WHEN I WENT OUT AND LOOKED UP AND THERE'S NOTHING. THERE'S NO TREES GOING IN THERE AT ALL,

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ANOTHER QUESTION FROM MR SPANGLER. THIS IS NEW TO ME. I JUST WAS CURIOUS, SO THERE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ANOTHER 20 . FT ADDED TO THE HEIGHT OF THAT BUILDING FROM A VIEWPOINT PERSPECTIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PERIMETER. NO I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT WHAT THE ZONING CODE. WOULD REQUIRE. OH THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THAT MR HOLD IF I MAY IF THEY DID NOT OBTAIN A VARIANCE THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SCREEN THE MECHANICALS ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP. AND THERE WERE TWO VARIANCES THAT WERE OBTAINED THAT WE SOUGHT THROUGH THE APPLICATION BY BEING COOPERATIVE WITH THE CITY'S REQUEST ONE BEING SCREENING OF SERVICE STRUCTURES. AND ONE BUILDING HEIGHT, BUT WE HAVE THE LEGAL POSITION STILL TODAY, THE BUILDING HEIGHT ONE WAS NOT REQUIRED. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BUILDING ISSUE RELATED TO SERVICE STRUCTURES. YOU CAN'T HAVE A BUILDING. WITHIN A BUILDING HEIGHT STANDARD. ON ONE HAND AND THEN SCREEN SERVICE STRUCTURES ON THE OTHER. WHEN SERVICE STRUCTURES IN YOUR CODE MEANS MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SUCH AS COOLING TOWERS, UM, UTILITY VAULTS. AIR CONDITIONING LOOKING AT MR BOZOS BECAUSE IT'S HIS. THERE'S NO HEIGHT STANDARD FIRST SERVICE STRUCTURES IN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY CODE, BUT WE WERE COOPERATIVE WITH THE CITY AND DID ASK FOR THAT VARIANCE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT REQUIRED. AND IF I MAY JUST TO CLARIFY THE CITY TAKES THE POSITION. THE CITY HAS ALWAYS TAKEN THE POSITION WHEN WE MEASURE TO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT . WHERE IT WHATEVER THE TOP OF WHATEVER IS THERE. NOT JUST IN THIS CASE, THE HEIGHT WAS TO THE TOP OF THE STACKS AND IT EXCEEDED OUR 35 FT BUILDING HEIGHT. THEREFORE, THE VARIANCE WAS REQUIRED. AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO MS MARTIN MR PLANK ABOUT THIS, AND THEY DISAGREE WITH MY INTERPRETATION, BUT WE HAVE SAID THAT WE ARE MEASURING FROM THE GROUND TO WHATEVER THE TALLEST POINT IS PERIOD. THAT'S HOW WE GET TO BUILDING HEIGHT. ALSO I BELIEVE, MR BOZO, YOU WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON YOUR ZONING CODE. THEIR SERVICE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE GROUND. THAT HAS A CERTAIN STANDARD UNDER THE LANDSCAPING SECTIONS OF THE CODE, THEN THEIR SERVICE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE ROOFTOP. THAT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER SECTION OF YOUR CODE. SO YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT TYPES.

OF SERVICE STRUCTURES. BOTH HAVE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. BUT IN ADDITION, I WOULD LIKE GROVE CITY TO EMBRACE THERE'S ONLY CODE BECAUSE IT'S CORRECT RELATED TO THE SERVICE STRUCTURE SCREENING. I'VE CHECKED NINE CENTRAL OHIO JURISDICTIONS ON HEIGHT STANDARDS, NOT ONE SINGLE CODE OUT OF ORANGE TOWNSHIP, FRANKLIN COUNTY CANAL. WINCHESTER COMMERCIAL POINT HILLIARD, WESTERVILLE WORTHINGTON. KAHANE OR NEW ALBANY WAS WOULD HAVE A HEIGHT, DISTRICT LIMITATION OR REQUIREMENT ON A SERVICE STRUCTURE. SO UM, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO EMBRACE THAT CODE ABOUT THE PROVISION OF YOU DON'T NEED A BUILDING HEIGHT. UM, VARIANTS, FOUR SERVICE STRUCTURES. IN YOUR CODE IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS ALL THESE OTHER CENTRAL OHIO JURISDICTIONS IN TERMS OF THAT CODE REQUIREMENT, AND THAT IS A PROPER INTERPRETATION THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A BUILDING HIGH. IF I MAY, MISS MARTIN, I CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE WITH THIS. HOWEVER WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CONSIDER THE VARIANCES THAT WERE GRANTED AN APPEAL ON THOSE VARIANCES. ONE OF WHICH IS THE VARIANTS FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO INSTALL THE STACKS AS YOU SEE IN THESE DIAGRAMS. YES. THAT SHOULD BE IT. OKAY? WHAT SHIELDING WILL BE ON. THEY'RE SHIELDING YOU MEAN. LANDSCAPE WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPING PLAN. THERE WAS NO. SEPARATE LANDSCAPING PLANS SUBMITTED. IT WAS ALL ONE ON ONE SHEET. FOR THE SITE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN JUMP OUT OF THIS AND FIND IT OR NOT. MR BERRY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MECHANICALS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING ON THE GROUND, JUST THAT ABOUT THE BUILDING. OKAY, ALRIGHT. CUT IT. WHAT? WHAT WAS DISCUSSED? AS FAR AS SCREENING OF THAT. THIS WOULD HELP DO YOU HAVE ON

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FIRST SECTION 11 37 16 OF OUR CITY CODE. THE SCREENING OF SERVICE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.

WILL BE SCREENED. WITH A PARAPET WALL. EXTENDED UP. AND THAT PARAPET WOULD BE AT THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. THEN THE PERIMETER OF THAT BUILDING. THE OUTSIDE WALL UP TO THE HEIGHT OF THAT UNIT. SO THEY HAVE THEY COULD NOT CUT. DIAGONALLY TODAY COULD NOT CUT ACROSS THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING AND SCREEN THE MECHANICALS AND THE STACKS THAT ARE IN THE BACK WITHOUT A VARIANCE, AND WE'VE HAD THAT AT MID OHIO FOOD. BANK OR FOOD COLLABORATIVE. WHERE THEY HAVE HAD A VARIANCE. IT WAS GRANTED FOR THEIR SCREENING WHERE IT WAS JUST DONE AROUND THE EQUIPMENT ONLY OKAY? I'M APOLOGIZE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON OUR WEBSITE. THE BORDER ZONING APPEALS ONLY SHOWS THEIR CURRENT CASES. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE THEIR CASES MOVE . ONCE THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED. I THINK THEY JUST DROP OFF. SO I CAN'T ACCESS. THIS REQUEST. BE OUR WEBSITE TO SHOW YOU THAT PLAN. THE PLAN THAT HAS THE LANDSCAPING ON IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CIA AND IT WAS APPROVED BY BC AND BC A IS LANDSCAPING WOULD BE PART OF THAT REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? DIFFERENTLY.

YOU CAN HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN. DETAILS INCLUDED ON YOUR SITE PLAN OR ANY CIVIL ENGINEERING PLAN OR DRAWING YOU PRESENT IN AN APPLICATION. IN A TYPICAL FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT YOU WOULD SEE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS, RENDERING COLOR MATERIALS, CIVIL DRAWINGS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET A SEPARATE LANDSCAPE PLAN. BUT IN OUR CASE WE MEET THE CODE , AND THEN WE SUPPLEMENTED THE EXISTING PROPERTY WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, SO WE JUST PUT THE LANDSCAPING DETAILS ON THE SITE PLAN. ALL OF THE PLANTINGS AND SHRUBS WERE DETAILED OUT WITH NOTES AND TYPES AND QUANTITIES, AND IT WAS SHOWN ON THE PLAN. SO IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BUSY APPLICATION AND THEY SAW IT AND WE HAVE THAT IN THE RECORD, AND IT'S IN THE APPLICATION WOULD BE OUR EXPECTATIONS THAT WE INSTALLED AS DETAILED WITH 100% EXACTLY CONFORMING WITH THE PLAN. WE DON'T NEED ANY VARIANCES FROM THE LANDSCAPING SECTIONS OF YOUR CODE IN YOUR CODE HAS VERY HIGH STANDARDS RELATED TO LANDSCAPING . AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED ANY VARIANCES FOR IT. SO IT WAS NEVER AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED VARIANCES. WHILE WE'RE LOOKING THAT UP IN THERE, WORKING FOR THAT THAT'S MOVE ON. THEN IF WE CAN ON THERE, DO YOU HAVE ANY MOTHER PRESENTATION ON YOUR QUESTIONS? I THINK WE'LL HOLD OFF UNTIL WE SEE THAT ON THERE. RIGHT. WE DO HAVE, UH MR . SO IF YOU HAVE A COLLEAGUE HERE THAT WORKED FOR THE EPA IDEA, PLEASE. I WILL. CHRISTINA YOU COME ON UP. CHRISTINA IS IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP. AND SHE IS PART OF THE TEAM. THAT THE CITY HAS HIGHER TO KIND OF FOLLOW THIS AND DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, UM, FORM THE EPA SIDE . WE HAVE ALSO HIRED A CONSULTANT WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY. BESIDES THE LAWYER TO REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE OHIO E P A. AND THEN CRISTINA HAS ALSO BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AND TALKING TO THE EPA ABOUT THIS APPLICATION, AND SHE UNDERSTANDS THIS STUFF SO MUCH BETTER THAN I DO, SO I'M JUST GOING TO LET HER GO FORWARD. THIS WIG. IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR INFORM YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE AWAKE AND I'LL GIVE YOU FROST BROWN TUBS ADDRESS AT ONE

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UM OR THEY MAY. ALSO IN ADDITION , DO CONSULTING SERVICES WHERE THE CONSULTING DOES SOME OF THE MODELING FOR THEM. THEY PLUG AND SHOVED THE NUMBERS. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO MET? HOW TALL IS THE STOCK WANNABE? HOW MUCH FORCES ARE GOING TO BE PUSHING THE AIR OUT? WHAT IS THE DYNAMIC OF THE STACK? ALL THOSE PARAMETERS DETERMINE WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE. FIVE FT. 25 FT

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YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME PRETTY HEAVY IMPACTS IN ORDER FOR A HIGHLY PIA IN ORDER FOR THEM TO PURSUE IN ORDER FOR THAT. TYPICALLY ORDER ISSUES ARE BEST SERVED BY DEALING WITH THEM AT THE LOCAL ORDER OUR LEVEL IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH LOCAL ORDINANCES FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. IT HAS TO BE A PRETTY HEAVY ODOR ISSUE. AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR OHIO P A TO PURSUE AND A NUISANCE COMPLAINT IS USUALLY COUPLED WITH SOME SORT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IMPACT. YOU HAVE. WHAT? WHAT WHAT CONCERNS ME. AND OBVIOUSLY THANK YOU FOR STATING THAT IN EVERYTHING THAT CONCERNS ME IS, YOU KNOW THE E P A. DIDN'T FIND A PROBLEM WITH NOT AGAINST THE E P A. BUT IT GOES ALONG WITH YOUR LOGIC AND YOUR EXPLANATION DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE RENDERING FACILITY OR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT OR THE SWING CO OR ALL THESE THINGS THAT HAVE CREATED SEVERE ODOR DOWN IN THIS AREA. BUT YET THEY'RE NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY WRONG. UM TO, YOU KNOW TO DO THAT, SO THAT THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN BY THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE. IS THAT IN UM SO BUT THANK YOU. I MEAN, YOU YOU BASICALLY HONED IT DOWN, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, UM AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS QUESTIONS. SORRY AND IT'S TESTED E P A TESTS FOR COMPLIANCE SO MANY EVERY SO OFTEN OR SOMETHING FROM THE STACK OR IS THAT ONLY DRIVEN BY COMPLAINTS OR THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AS WELL. WHENEVER THE PERMIT COMES OUT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE ALLOWABLE ZENIT. IT'S GOING TO SAY HOW MUCH KNOCKS THEY CAN GIVE OFF. HOW MUCH PARTICULARLY MATTER AND GIVE OFF. EVERY ONE OF THOSE LIMITS WILL ALSO HAVE MONITORED RECORDKEEPING AND REPORTING AND TESTING TERMS WITH A IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SOURCE AND THE SIZE OF THE SOURCE AS TO WHAT OHIO OKAY PUTS IN THERE AT A BARE MINIMUM, THE FACILITY WILL BE KEEPING PRODUCTION RUPTURE RECORDS MONITORING. UM SOME SOME OF THE STOCKS OR THE PARAMETERS FOR THE CONTROL DEVICES. DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE SOURCE. HYYPIA DOES HAVE DISCRETION TO REQUIRE A ONE TIME STOCK TEST AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF THE PERMIT, THEY COULD REQUIRE THEM PERIODICALLY. THEY CAN ALSO REQUIRED ANOTHER STATE REGULATION IF THEY

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LIKE I SAID, THAT'S MORE THE ENGINEERING OR TECHNICAL QUESTION. BUT SCRUBBER TYPICALLY DO HAVE SOME SORT OF VAPOR PLUME ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. PEOPLE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T MENTIONED WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THERE. SO OKAY . LAST QUESTION, AND THIS IS FOR YOU AND OR STEPHEN. SO LET'S SAY WE HAVE A MAJOR ODOR COMING OUT. AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GO AFTER A NUISANCE. UM TYPE OF ACTION IS THAT HOW HARD IS THAT TO DEAL WITH STEPHEN OR WELL, FIRST OF ALL IN AND MAYBE YOU UNDERSTAND ALL THE STUFF THAT'S COMING OUT OF THESE STACKS. I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND SHE CAN CORRECT ME WHEN I'M WRONG, BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HALF OF THE WORDS THAT THEY USED WHEN I SAT THROUGH THE MEETINGS ON THIS THE CHLORINE LEVELS. THE CHLORINE IS THE ONE THING THAT POTENTIALLY COULD SMELL. I MEAN , MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOTHING ELSE THAT'S COMING OUT IS REALLY HAVING NOTRE ASSOCIATED THAT FAIR. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.

LOOKING AT THE APPLICATION CORN WOULD BE THE ITEM THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE SOME ORDER IN MY UNDERSTANDING, JUST TO CLARIFY AS THE CORE THE NUMBER OR AMOUNT OF CHLORINE THAT COMES OUT OF THE STACKS. THE EPA IS CONSIDERING RELATIVELY MINOR BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO UP INTO THAT EXTRA TESTING MOOD. IS THAT FAIR? YOU ARE CORRECT. IT DOES NOT RAISED TO THE THRESHOLD REQUIRING AIR TOXIC MODELING BECAUSE IT'S BELOW ONE TIMES PER YEAR ON JUST SPEAKING FROM MY EXPERIENCE IS THE AMOUNT OF CORN IS COMING OUT OF THE STOCK IS FAIRLY SMALL. AND WE HAVE, AND JUST ALSO CLARIFY ONCE AGAIN. I'M DOING THIS MORE FOR ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS EITHER. WE LOOKED AT POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES LIKE WHAT COULD THEY DO TO MAKE THE CHLORINE SMELL LESS? AND OUR OPINION? IS THERE KIND OF DOING THIS STUFF THAT NORMALLY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT? WITH THE DUAL SCRUBBER SYSTEM, ETCETERA. YES OUR INVESTIGATION WITH TRC DID NOT UNCOVER ANYTHING REALLY ADDITIONAL. THEY COULD DO AT THIS POINT WITH THESE LEVELS OF THESE STOCKS THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE CORN ANYMORE THAN WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING. INTO INTO MR BARRY OR PRESIDENT. VERY IF I MAY. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS ONCE THEY ARE GRANTED THEIR FULL PERMIT, AND WE FULLY EXPECT THEM TO GET THEIR DRAFT PERMIT.

IS THAT FAIR? AND ONCE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR FULL PERMIT, LET'S SAY GOING UNDER YOUR LOGIC THAT THEY'RE DEAD WRONG IN THAT THE SMELL IS HORRIFIC. UM IF THERE IS SOME MASSIVE CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE CAN GET THE EPA BACK INVOLVED IN TO GO IN THERE AND SAY, WHY IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN YOU SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE, WE WILL IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T RISE TO THAT LEVEL, BUT THE SMELL IS BAD. I MEAN, THERE ARE POTENTIAL NUISANCE ACTIONS THAT WE COULD FILE. AS CHRISTINA SAID. I MEAN LOCALLY, WE HAVE NUISANCE PROVISIONS, BOTH IN LOCAL CODE IN THE OHIO VICE CODE. I WILL TELL YOU UNLESS IT'S PRETTY BAD, THOUGH I MIGHT GET MY GUT TELLS ME THAT THE FACILITY BUILD WAVE THEIR EPA APPROVAL AS THEIR FLAGS SAYING, WE'RE DOING ALL THIS CORRECTLY. AND THE ONE THING WE DO KNOW IS THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT CORRECTLY UNDER THE RULES OF THE OHIO EPA BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MM. BEYOND THAT, IT BECOMES DIFFICULT. I MEAN, MY GUESTS AND ONCE AGAIN THIS IS STEPHEN AS A LAWYER WHO UNDERSTANDS NOTHING ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE IS THE OHIO, PA. BASED ON THE NUMBERS THEY SEE IS RELATIVELY MINOR. NOW I KNOW NO ONE'S EVER GOING TO PROMISE THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE A SMELL FROM THERE. I CAN'T SAY THAT YOU CAN'T SAY THAT. THEY'RE EXPERTS CAN'T SAY THAT. BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS IF THERE IS A SMELL, IT WILL BE RELATIVELY SMALL WHEN IT WILL BE IN INSTANCES WHERE THE AIR RISTIC AND WE HAVE FOG, AND IT MAY HANG AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT. OR THE EVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. IF IT BECOMES A PROBLEM, I DOUBT IT. DID I SAY ANY OF THAT WRONG OR RIGHT ON THE HEAD YOU EVEN WHEN YOU DIDN'T USE THE WORD INVERSION, BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT INVERSION MEANS , OR I WOULD HAVE USED THAT WORD. ALL I KNOW IS I WAS TOLD IF THE AIR IS VERY THICK, THERE IS A CHANCE IT COULD SMELL LIKE AN OUTDOOR SWIMMING POOL IS WHAT OUR CONSULTANT TOLD US WHEN WE WERE ON OUR LAST CALL. WILL IT BE WORSE THAN THAT? I DON'T KNOW . I DON'T THINK ANYONE DOES. BUT I KNOW THE E P A IS VERY INVOLVED IN THIS AND AT LEAST IN THIS INSTANCE. EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD FROM OUR EXPERTS IS THAT THE CHLORINE IS ACTUALLY RELATIVELY LOW IN TERMS OF A BAD

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THERE IS AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING THAT IS GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE SITE. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE, AND I SEE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOTHING HERE AND SEE IT THAT YOU YOU SAY THERE'S NOTHING THERE. WE DO HAVE AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING GOING ON THE SITE. I WILL SAY THAT AMERICAN NIGHT TRIAL HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH. I WOULD THINK THAT WORKING THROUGH THE BUILDING DIVISION, WE CAN WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT AREA IS SCREENED OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THERE IS A DRIVEWAY THAT COMES OUT THERE THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WORK AROUND. BUT WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND WE HAVE AND WORKING WITH BOTH JODI LOW OR URBAN FOREST DURING THE BUILDING DIVISION WE CAN WORK LIKE I SAID WITH AMERICAN NIGHT TRIAL TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

NO, MISS. THERE'S MY POINT IS, IS THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING LANDSCAPING DOWN THIS ROAD.

YEAH. NO, NO, NO. THIS IS SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. ON YOUR MAP. THERE'S NOTHING THERE. NO.

SOUTHWEST. OKAY? I'M TALKING ABOUT UP AGAINST WALMART. YES ON THE WEST SIDE, MR BERRY. I'M ON THE WEST SIDE. THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING OVER THERE WITH THE STACKS GOING TO BE. I TOOK PICTURES OF THOSE TWO.

BILL. MAN. THERE'S NOTHING ON THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING IN THE PLAN. MA'AM IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR PLAN, THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT THERE'S THE ROOM. NOW TAKE YOUR TAKE YOUR PEN DOWN. TAKE YOUR PEN DOWN DOWN. WHERE'S THEIR LANDSCAPING THERE? YEAH THESE ARE IT RIGHT HERE. THAT'S NOT GONNA SCREEN A SMOKESTACK OVER THERE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, OKAY.

OKAY? ALRIGHT. CAN WE MOVE ON? UM VERY PART OF THE TEAM. OKAY? HANG ON. WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS TO DO ON HERE. I THINK WE'LL MOVE ON. WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE WANT TO DO SOME TESTIMONY ON HERE, MR SMITH, IF I MAY IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS APPLICATION, COULD YOU PLEASE STAND UP AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? THERE'S ONLY ONE THERE'S NO PLUMBING. DO NOT WANT TO SPEAK AND HEAR MISS CONRAD. OVER, RIGHT? I JUST HAD PEOPLE DOWN HERE. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK , PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SWEAR. AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE WILL BE THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. YES YES. PERFECT THANK YOU. NOW COME TO THE PODIUM AND

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VINCE. I LIVE AT 2 26 97 COLUMBUS STREET GROUPS OF OHIO. AND, UH, SHOULD BE VALID TO THE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. MR. BARRY MENTIONED THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE CHLORINE IS GOING TO BE ADMITTED INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. AND FOR YOU, THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHEN CHLORINE IS EMITTED INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. ACTS AS A CATALYST FOR OZONE DEPLETION, SO THE CHLORINE REACTS WITH 03 CREATES CHLORINE MONOXIDE NO. TWO AND THEN THUS, THIS OZONE LAYER IN THE STRATOSPHERE IS KIND OF DEPLETED AND THEN LEADS TO HIGHER UV RADIATION AND GLOBAL WARNING. WARMING. EXCUSE ME. AND I JUST THINK THAT'S LIKE AN IMPORTANT MATTER TO THINK ABOUT DURING THIS PROCESS. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

ALBERTS AND I HAVE A BUSINESS AT 3663 BROADWAY. AND I JUST. I MISSED THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THE SMOKE STUFF. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT IT'S JUST THE CHLORINE AND THEN SO THE ACRYLONITRILE AND THE UM.

VIEW TO DYING. SORRY BUT I'M SHOPPING THAT UP. THERE'S TWO CHEMICALS ARE THEY GOING TO BE GOING TO BE COMING? OKAY. ARE THEY GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THE SMOKESTACK? I'LL HAVE TO GIVE MR. MR. SPANGLER MR. WILSON WHO'S GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, ALEX. THANK YOU. IS ALEX ALISON FOR AMERICAN NIGHT TRIAL. 3500 SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD 43213 TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

GREAT QUESTION. SO THE NBR THE NITRO BUTADIENE RUBBER WOULD ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERED NEGLIGIBLE. IN OUR PROCESS. WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE COOLING IT TO KEEP IT FROM EVAPORATING AND THE AMOUNT THAT WILL BE COMING OFF WOULD NOT BE IN THE SLIGHTEST AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO SEE. SMELL OR YEAH, WORRY. THANK YOU. THE BOSNIAN DO WE NEED TO HEAR FROM OUR EXPERTS? OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? CARRYING ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. SURE I STILL HAVE THE ISSUE THAT MR BOZO, I THINK OBVIOUSLY SEES THERE'S A PROBLEM ON THIS. WHERE THERE'S NO TREES ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND ITS SCREENING NOTHING. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY FROM BEING AT THE BBC A MEETING I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT ALL ON THERE.

ON THEIR SMART, CAN YOU YOU WERE THERE. CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY, BUT I THOUGHT OUR MAJOR DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THE MECHANICAL SCREENING AND THE HEIGHT OF THE OF THE OF THE STATUS WAS NOT A MAJOR DISCUSSION. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION RELATED TO LANDSCAPING BEING ON THE SITE PLAN, AS SUBMITTED IN THAT WE MEET CODE AND THAT WE DID NOT NEED A VARIANCE. AND BY THE WAY , WE WILL INSTALL ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS ON THAT PLAN AND CONFORMANCE WITH THAT PLAN AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMITS STAGE. IT'S NOT ALL INSTALLED RIGHT NOW. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE TODAY IS WHAT'S EXISTING, WE WILL INSTALL SUPPLEMENTAL LANDSCAPING. THANK YOU. MM. MR SMITH, WOULD YOU JUST REVIEW WHAT THE VOTE ON THIS TRAIL? IT'S RATHER UNIQUE COMPARED TO HOW WE NORMALLY VOTE. YES SIR. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE AN APPEAL OF THE VARIANCE OF VARIANCES WERE GRANTED. SO A YES VOTE IN THIS INSTANCE WOULD GET RID OF THE VARIANCES. THAT'S THE SIMPLEST WAY TO LOOK AT IT AND OVER VOTE WITH WOULD BE STATUS QUO AS TO WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE B. C.

A. SO HOW ARE PROCESS WORKS? WHEN IT COMES SOON APPEAL LIKE THIS IN ORDER TO OVERTURN THE VARIANCES. THERE MUST BE THREE YES VOTES TO OVERTURN THE VARIANCES. SO THREE NO VOTES OR MORE. THEY STAND THREE. YES VOTES OR MORE. THE VARIANCES ARE OVERTURNED. I GUESS. WHICH. ONE MR SPANGLER. MR SPANGLER, CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION HERE BEFORE WE CAN YOU COME HERE? FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TO GET TO THIS POINT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE DONE? UM, REGARDING THE CHLORINE IF

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ABSOLUTELY SURE. MR BARRY, IF I MAY JUST TO CLARIFY I HAD TALKED TO ARE ENGINEERING DUDE ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC QUESTION, AND I JUST CONFIRMED IT. I WILL TELL YOU FROM THE MECHANICAL SIDE OF THINGS. THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING EVERYTHING THEY CAN THAT WOULD MINIMIZE THIS NOW.

THAT'S NOT A GUARANTEE. HOWEVER WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY COULD INSTALL THAT WOULD FURTHER. MINIMIZE THE POTENTIAL FOR SMELL. THEY'RE TAKING ALL OF THE ACTIVE STEPS THAT THEY CAN TO DO SO. BUT MY POINT IS REGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT IS THAT THERE'S COMPLAINTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S COMPLAINTS. YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE I'M COMING? IF THERE'S COMPLAINTS, MR PRESIDENT BARRY I WILL BE AT THEIR FRONT DOOR TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE ARE SUING THEM. AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, IS MR BOZO.

REGARDLESS OF THE PLAN. PEOPLE THINK DOESN'T HAVE AS TREES THAT DOESN'T. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? THAT PORTION OF IT? NICE TRY AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN. YOU KNOW THE BEST WAY WE CAN. AND WE HAVE YOUR COMMITMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO SHIELD THESE THIS STACK WHERE THERE'S NO TREES IN THE PLAN CURRENTLY, YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IF YOU DO YOU HAVE THE CYCLING IN FRONT OF YOU DID MISS MARTIN HAS IT NOW? SOUTHEAST CORNER. TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S BUSHES THAT WERE TAKEN OUT THAT YOU GUYS TOOK OUT RECENTLY. I WAS OVER THERE TODAY. ACTUALLY ON LEWIS CENTER, SO ONE OF THE THINGS VERY EARLY ON REQUESTED. I BELIEVE BY THE B. C. A WAS SOME TREES SO LIKE HERE TAKE, FOR INSTANCE, WE WE'VE ADDED QUITE A AMOUNT OF LARGE TREES OVER IN THIS CORNER TO HELP WITH THAT VIEW FROM LEWIS CENTER, SOMETHING MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIDE THAT HAS LITERALLY NOTHING ON YES, BUT I THINK RIGHT AS SHOWING HIM FOR WHAT WE WERE DOING JUST AS LONG AS WE HAVE YOUR COMMITTEE. THAT YOU'LL DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO PLANT TREES ON THE SIDE. THAT'S NOT IN THE POINT OF THE TREES THAT AREN'T IN THE CURRENT PLAN, AND AGAIN. THAT'S SOUTHEAST CORNER WAS A SPECIFIC REQUEST FROM THE, UM ZONING BOARD. I BELIEVE AT THE TIME, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF YES, WE COMPLIED. WE'RE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TODAY. BEFORE I MOVE ON HERE TO GET THE LAST COMMENT, AND MR BARRY, YOU REALIZE THAT NO MATTER HOW MANY TREES THEY PLANT THEIR THOSE TREES WON'T BE HIGH ENOUGH TO SCREEN THAT WE GET 100 FT TREES. THAT'S POSSIBLE. OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE YOU DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON THERE. SO HEY, THIS RESOLUTION SENATE'S READING PUBLIC HERE AND I MOVE IT BE APPROVED TO DISCUSS HOW THE BUILDING HAPPENS JUST TO FIRST OF ALL, CAN WE GET A SECOND? THEN I CAN TALK. OKAY UM, FIRST OF ALL, UM MR SHOCKEY MOVES AT THE APPROVED JUST BECAUSE WE ALWAYS MAKE THE MOTION IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, BECAUSE IF HE MOVED TO NOT APPROVE IT, THE VOTING BECOMES EVEN MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT ALREADY IS. SO IT'S BEING MOVED TO APPROVE. AND ONCE AGAIN A YES VOTE WOULD OVERTURN THE VARIANCE IS A NO VOTE WOULD RETAIN THE STATUS QUO IN TERMS OF WHAT THE BBC A APPROVED. MARK

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HE'S FROZEN, MR CIGARETTES. I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT. UM, YEAH, MY VOTE IS NO MR BARRY. MR HOLT? NO HELP! NO. ALL RIGHT, SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THE VARIANCES WILL STAY IN THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT REALLY APPRECIATE IT. MR PRESIDENT. THAT IS IT FROM MY MICHAEL TONIGHT, MR. SECRETS YOU'RE UP, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EVERYONE HEAR ME.

[Ordinance C-21-22 Amend Chapter 339 titled Commercial and Heavy Vehicles to Impose Fines for Overweight Loads carried without the required Local Permit. Second reading and public hearing.]

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH THE TRASH. ALONG THE ROADS AND GROW CITY SO I WAS ASKED TO WORK WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY. COMMERCIAL ENFORCEMENT UNIT. BACK IN DECEMBER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THIS JOINTLY. SO FOR FOUR DAYS. I WORKED WITH THE COMMERCIAL ENFORCEMENT GUYS FROM FRANKLIN COUNTY. THEY PRIMARILY DO WEIGHTS. I FOCUSED ON TRASH BLOWING FROM VEHICLES SO BUT I'M GONNA KIND OF LOOK AT IS I WAS ASKED TO COVER WHAT I SAW OUT THERE AND THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH GARBAGE TRUCKS. EVERY TRUCK THAT COMES INTO THE DUMP. HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR TRASH TO COME OUT SO THE WERE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE REAR LOADING TRASH TRUCK. THIS IS OLD SCHOOL, BUT WE SEE HIM EVERY DAY IN GROSS CITY, AND THESE ARE REALLY PRETTY GOOD TRUCKS. THEY UNLESS THE CRUZ DOESN'T CLEAR OUT THE HOPPER IN THE BACK. PRETTY LOW PROBABILITY OF ANYTHING BLOWING OUT OF THIS TRUCK. NEXT ONE. SO THERE'S TWO TYPES OF THESE, UH, CAN TRUCKS. THESE ARE FRONT LOADING. DUMPSTER TRUCKS. THESE ARE A PROBLEM AND WE SEE WE HAVE TRUCKS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS IN GROVE CITY TO PICK UP THE TAKE THE RECYCLING SO THE DRIVER PICKS UP A CAN DUMP THEM INTO THE DUMPSTER. ONCE THE DUMPSTERS FOR HE DUMPED INTO THE HOPPER IN THE BACK. CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE, TOO. SIMILAR TRUCK FRONT LOAD DUMPSTERS AND PICK UP THE DUMPSTERS BEHIND THE BUSINESSES AND GROVE CITY. SO THESE TRUCKS ARE FINE EXCEPT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO WAY FOR THE DRIVER TO SEE IF ANY TRASH HAS FALLEN OUTSIDE OF THE HARPER ENDS UP ON TOP OF THE TRUCK. AND WORKED IN GROWTH CITY AT NIGHT. MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND DURING COUNTY ROAD, YOU'RE ALWAYS SEEING TRASH BAGS OR CARDBOARD BOXES. THESE ARE THE TRUCKS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. THE DRIVERS HAVE NO MEANS OF SEEING HALF HALF OF THE TRUCK OTHER THAN CLIMBING OUT AND LOOKING ON TOP OF THAT, JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT SO THESE TRUCKS ARE PRETTY BAD FOR LITTERING THE STREETS.

THERE'S TWO TYPES OF ROHLOFF COMPACTOR. UM TWO OF TWO TYPES OF ROLL OFF DUMPSTERS THAT WE SEE. THIS IS THE COMPACTOR TYPE, WHICH ARE PRETTY SOME THEY HAVE LIKE A FOUR FT OPENING IN THE FRONT AS LONG AS THE TARP WAS PUT ON PROPERLY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. WHAT WE SEE THIS ALL THE TIME WITH TARPS ARE TORN SO THE FOUR DAYS THAT WE WORKED THE FRANKLIN COUNTY GUYS STOPPED. 10 OR 12 TRUCKS ARE BEING OVERWEIGHT. AND WHILE WE WERE AWAY AND ONE OF THE TRUCKS, A CITIZEN CAME UP AND SORT OF COMPLAINING TO US THE WIRE AND YOU GUYS OUT WORKING THE TRASH RIGHT AND EXPLAIN TO HIM. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE. AND HE SHOWED US SOME PHOTOS OF DAMAGE TO HIS CAR FROM ONE OF THESE EXITING 71 65 OR THAT OPENED UP AND TRASH FELL OUT OF THE RUNNING OVER IT. NEXT. THEN THE OPEN TOP OF DUMPSTERS. SO THESE ARE THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE DUMPSTERS. OUR ONLY TARPED. GENERALLY ATTACHMENT POINT IN THE FRONT AND THE BACK OF THE DUMPS HERE, SO THE SIDES ARE FREE TO BLOW ANY LIGHTWEIGHT MATERIAL. CAN BLOW OUT.

DEPENDING ON THE TENSION OF THE TARP, BUT WHEN THESE LEAVE THE DOVE. THIS IS WHERE THIS IS WHAT I KIND OF FOCUSED ON WAS WHEN THESE LEAVE THE DUMP. THEY NEVER HAVE THEIR TARPS ON THEM.

MATERIAL AND DOESN'T COME OUT WHEN THEY GRAVITY DUMP. ENDS UP BLOWING OUT SO MY ROLE IN THIS TRASH ENFORCEMENT WAS WROTE SEVERAL TICKETS. FOR TRUCKS DIDN'T HAVE PARTS ON TRUSTED

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MAKING A RUN. UM I THINK A LARGE VOLUME OF THE BIG PIECES YOU SEE ALONG 71 OR THINGS THAT FALL OFF THE TRAILERS LIKE THIS OR OUT OF THE BACK OF PICKUP TRUCKS. SO. THE COUNTY FOCUSED ON THE WEIGHTS. THOSE GUYS HAVE SCALES IF THEY HAVE A REASONABLE SUSPICION TO STOP A TRUCK. THE TRUCK WAS LIKE IT'S HEAVY. THEY'RE PULLING THEM OVER. THE EMPOWERMENT I SPENT WITH THEM, BUT THEY PRETTY MUCH TOLD ME WAS EVERY ONE OF THESE TRASH TRUCKS THAT GOES DOWN THERE IS OVERLOAD. THE. THE DRIVERS DO NOT PAY THE TICKETS. THE COMPANY'S PAY THE TICKETS. THE COMPANY'S PRETTY MUCH ENCOURAGED THE DRIVERS. TO MAKE AS FEW TRIPS TO THE DUMP AS POSSIBLE.

THE LAST TRUCK LESS TRIPS, THEY MAKE THE LESS ROUND TRIPS, THE MORE PROFIT SO. WAIT TO THESE TRUCKS IS AN ISSUE AND THAT'S HOW WE CAN GET SOME ENFORCEMENT OF THE TRASH COMPANIES. EVERY TRUCK THAT THEY STOPPED THAT THEY BELIEVE IS OVERWEIGHT WAS OVERWEIGHT. THAT'S MY ROLE IN IT. THE WEIGHTS ARE IMPORTANT ISSUE AND ONE WAY WE CAN TACKLE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE LITTER.

IT'S EXCUSE ME IS. SO I COVERED TARP LOAD IS REQUIRED. THAT'S THE LAW HAS TO BE TARPED. IT HA.

IF THERE'S NOT MATERIAL THAT'S GONNA FALL OUT, OKAY? YOU ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP KEEP THE ITEMS IN YOUR TRAILER. SO IF YOU'RE HAULING BIG STONES, I DON'T HAVE TO BE PART. THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROBLEM. BUT I THINK I THINK THAT THE THAT'S WACO KIND OF REQUIRES SOME THAT HAVE A TARP ON WHEN THEY ENTER THE DOG WACO, RIGHT? YES. IS THAT A FORGET THE TERM LIKE I CAN. IS THAT A FIRST OFFENSE KIND OF THING. YOU CAN PULL SOMEBODY OVER FOR THAT, OR DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER REASON TO PULL THEM OVER FOR THE DARK? BACON'S WELL. IF YOU SEE IF YOU SEE DEBRIS COMING OUT OF THE TRUCK YES, YOU CAN STOP IT FOR THAT. OKAY? THAT'S A IT'S A PRIMARY EFFECTS. HELL.

QUESTIONS. PRIMARY OFFENSE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. MR SEACREST OUT OF THE QUESTION, IF THAT'S OKAY. SURE SURE. PLEASE DO, MR. BRODY WOULD AS FAR AS OVERWEIGHT. DO YOU HAVE TO IS THAT, UM HOW DO YOU TELL IF SOMETHING I MEAN JUST FROM DRIVING THEM DRIVING FOR FURTHER OVERWEIGHT. THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THEY LOOK AT. THE MOST OBVIOUS THING IS THE CONTACT PATCH OF ATTIRE WITH THE GROUND PROPERLY, PROPERLY INFLATED TIRE ON THESE BIG TRUCKS SHOULD ONLY TOUCH THE GROUND AT ABOUT A 56 INCH SPACING. IF THAT FLAT SPOT GETS TO BE 12 INCHES 15 INCHES, EITHER THE TIRE IS GROSSLY UNDER INFLATED OR IT'S TOO HEAVY. REALLY LOOK AT THAT. LOOK AT THAT. THEY LOOK FROM THE BACK OF THESE TRUCKS. THEY HAVE DUAL TIRES. IF THOSE DUELS ARE BULGING WITH THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE ALMOST TOUCHING. THEIR HEAD. IF THE TRUCK BOUNCES, THEY LOOK AT THE WAY THE SUSPENSION REACTS. IF IT BOUNCES QUICKLY. UM IT'S A LIGHT TRUCK. IF IT BOUNCES BIG DEEP BOUNCES HIS HEAD. AND THEN ALSO, THEY LOOK AT THE SMOKE LIKE SOME OF THESE TRUCKS HAVE A LOT OF SMOKE BUILDING OUT WHERE THE ENGINES REALLY LUGGING. TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION. THEY COME UP WITH ARTICULABLE REASONABLE SUSPICION THEY CAN STOP THE TRUCK. AND REQUIRED ANYWHERE WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS THAT CAN TAKE THEM AND MAKE THEM FOLLOW THEM.

USUALLY THEY USE BILL WATTS, WAY THE DEAD END AREA THERE. AND LOOK AT THEIR SCALES OUT AND WILLIAM AND ISSUING THE TICKET. THAT'S PRETTY HAPPY. THE SECRETS OF UNWANTED CONTINUE. YES, PLEASE. THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS THAT YOU HAVE THAT SHORT STRETCH OF 71 THAT YOU WOULD SEE THEM COMING DOWN PAST 2 70, RIGHT? AND THEN DOWN AT 6 65, SO THAT'S THE OBSERVATION AREA. BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD PULL THEM OVER, NOT ON THE FREEWAY TO DO THE PORTABLE SCALES BUT SOMEPLACE.

CLOSER TO THE GENERALLY THE WAY THAT THE COUNTY DEPUTIES DO IT IS ONCE THEY SEE THE TRUCK. THEY

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PULL UP NEXT TO HIM AND SAY, FOLLOW ME DOWN HERE TO BILL. LOTS WAX. THEY NEED IT. THEY NEED A FLAT NEED A LEVEL AREA TO HAVE THE SCALES. BE ACCURATE. DO WE HAVE SCALES? NO, SIR. WE DID NOT. SO WE'RE RELYING ON THIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S TO DO THIS. SO IF YOU'RE PATROLLING AND YOU SEE A TRUCK THAT'S OBVIOUSLY OVERWEIGHT ON THERE. YOU CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL THE DEPUTIES COME OR CAN YOU PULL THEM OVER? I CAN PULL THEM OVER AND THEN WAIT FOR THE DEPUTIES TO BRING AFFORDABLE SKILLS, EITHER WE HAVE WE HAVE PLANS TO WORK WITH STATE HIGHWAY PATROL SCALES. OKAY SO HAVE PLANS TO AGAIN WORK WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY IN THE FUTURE. I WORKED WITH DEPUTY WAGNER, DEPUTY WILEY. THESE GUYS HAVE ASSURED ME THAT ANY TIME WE NEED SCALES GIVE US A CALL WILL COME. WILLIAM FOR YOU. IT WAS A REALLY EXCELLENT ARE REALLY, REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP, AND I LEARNED I DO NOTHING ABOUT COMMERCIAL ENFORCEMENT. FOR THIS. IT WAS WAS ACTUALLY VERY ENJOYABLE FOR ME TO WORK. THANK YOU. SO, UM. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, MR CIGARETTE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU NEEDED A SECOND. YEAH I MEAN, IF WE'RE FINISHED DISCUSSION, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK ALFRED OFFICER BARBER. IT'S YOUR OPINION AND OF STRENGTHENING THIS, UM AMENDING THIS AS FOLLOWS INTO ESPECIALLY THESE NEW FINDS AND HE'S YOU KNOW, NEW RESTRICTIONS. IF YOU WILL IS GONNA IT'S GONNA GREATLY DETER. AND MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT IN THIS AND SOLVING THIS PROBLEM. YES, SIR. OKAY. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. DO I HEAR A SO ANYWAY? IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? IF I COULD, MR SECRETS? YES INTERJECT. THAT'S JUST THE START OF OUR EFFORT TO TRY TO GET OUR HANDS ON OUR ARMS AROUND THE LITTER. AND, UH, OFFICER BARBARA WAS KIND ENOUGH TO REALLY RESEARCH THIS AND WE'RE PICKING THE PIECES. NOW THAT AH, ARE ONES THAT WE CAN TRY TO CONTROL, BUT THE LIVER BLOWING OUT UNDER THE STARTS ARE STILL ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO KEEP HER ARMS AROUND. BUT THIS IS JUST ONE STEP AND WAS PROBABLY GONNA BE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT STEPS. CORRECT SHAPE THE COUNCIL SUPPORT THANK YOU. MAYOR STAGE SO THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS. UM BEFORE YOU SAY I'M SORRY, OFFICER BARBARA. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND HELPING US TRY TO IMPROVE PROVE THIS FOR SURE. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE ON COUNCIL? OKAY IF THAT'S THE CASE , THIS ORGANS HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE IT BE APPROVED. SECOND MR SEGRIST. YES VERY. MR HOLT. YES YES. HELP. AND PURPOSES OF THE SERVICE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT BARRY TONIGHT UNDER

[Ordinance C-26-22 Redistrict the Wards of the City of Grove City as required by the Charter Amendment adopted by the Voters in 2017. First reading.]

[Ordinance C-22-22 Authorize the City Administrator to enter into an Agreement for Dispatching and Communication Services with Pleasant Township. Second reading and public hearing]

IF I MAY. MR HOLT, THIS IN THE NEXT ARE JUST EXTENSIONS OF THE CURRENT AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE VARIOUS TOWNSHIPS TO PROVIDE DISPATCHING SERVICES. THANK YOU. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING AND I MOVE AND BE APPROVED. SECOND MR BARRY? YES, SISTER HOLT. YES HELP? YES MR. SHUT KEY, MR CIGARETTES. YES. ONE SECOND. ORDINANCE 23 22. SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE, AN ORDINANCE

[Ordinance C-23-22 Authorize the City Administrator to enter into an Agreement for Dispatching and Communication Services with Prairie Township. Second reading and public hearing.]

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[Ordinance C-24-22 Providing for the Issuance and Sale of Notes in the maximum principal amount of $9,000,000.00 in anticipation of the issuance of Bonds for the purpose of paying the costs of improving the City's Parks and Recreational Facilities by constructing the Beulah Community Park to include, among other improvements, an Amphitheater, various utility, roadway and pedestrian related improvements, fitness areas together with related equipment, a splash pad, various structures, landscaping, street lighting, signage and parking, together with all other necessary appurtenances thereto. Second reading and public hearing.]

UH PROBABLY BY WEDNESDAY. THIS WEEKEND. WE'LL START HAVING MEETINGS, CERTAINLY WITH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF THEIR INPUT AND WHAT THEY PERCEIVED TO BE THE SIZE AND PERHAPS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THEY WISH TO SPEND ONE PARTICULAR THEATER, BUT AGAIN, IT WILL DEPEND ON THE TYPES OF PERFORMANCE. WE'D LIKE TO SEE THERE, SO THANK YOU. BODY ELSE, OKAY? THIS ORDER INCIDENT AT SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE WOULD BE APPROVED. SECOND. MRS M ELK? YES MR SHARKEY, REST. YES MR HOPE? YES. ORDINANCE SEE 27 22 AN ORDINANCE TO APPROPRIATE

[Ordinance C-27-22 Appropriate $105,645.00 from the Local Fiscal Recovery Fund for the Current Expense of Engineering Services for the Columbus Street Relief Sewer. First reading]

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[Call for New Business]

SO WE'RE ALL GOOD AND THEN MISS MISS WOLF. SUAVE WHEN YOU GET TO THE PODIUM, WE COULD GET YOU TO RECITE YOUR HEADDRESS. AND YOUR NAME, OF COURSE. GLORY WOLF 44 23 ANGLE BURKE DRIVE. UM. I HAVE A STATEMENT TO READ AND I'D ASK THAT YOU'D LET ME COMPLETE IT BEFORE YOU. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS OR ADDRESS ME. UM THIS IS REGARDING THE. AFFECT THAT THE DEMONSTRATE CONSTRUCTION HAS HAD ON ANGLE, BROOKE DRIVE. IN THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN

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CINDY WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, CERTAINLY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS MISSILE. AND CERTAINLY WE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE THESE CONTRACTS AND THESE LARGE CONSTRUCTION CAUSES PROBLEMS. BUT AGAIN, WE RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND UH, ACTUALLY, SINCE I DON'T HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT

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[Call for Dept. Reports & Closing Comments]

THE 30TH. AND WE, AS USUAL, PROBABLY HAVE SEVEN UP 900 YOUNGSTERS, PLUS THEIR PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS. THAT WILL BE, UH, SATURDAY. THE 30TH AND I BELIEVE IT NINE O'CLOCK. UH APPRECIATE THE BOUNCER UPHOLDING THE BZ A DECISION. BC A SERVICE OF. CREDIBLE AH HAS INCREDIBLE RESPONSIBILITY. THE INDIVIDUALS ON THAT ARE PROFESSIONALS. THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS. AND UH, APPRECIATE THE BUSY A APPALLING THEIR DECISION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE MAYOR? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M SURPRISED THAT MR BARROSO DIDN'T REMIND US SENATE THAT SHE REPORTS TO HIM, NOT ME. AH! MR THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR. BUT NOTHING ADDITIONAL. THANK YOU. PRESIDENT BARRY. MR. TURNER THANK YOU HAVE NOTHING, MR SMITH. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER, SIR. THANK YOU.

MS. KELLY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE PURPOSES OF MY APOLOGIES? WE'VE WE'VE LOST MR CIGARETTES, BUT I THINK WE'RE AT THE END OF THE MEETING, SO HE HAS NOTHING ELSE TO VOTE FINE ANYHOW. ANY OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER. I HAVE A QUESTION.

CINDY, COULD YOU COME BACK UP? WE HAD A QUESTION THIS WEEK ABOUT FENCING ALONG BUCKEYE PARKWAY AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, AND SINCE IT WAS PRECEDED MY TIME ON COUNCIL AND OTHERS IT MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD COULD YOU JUST REVIEW PEOPLE WERE WONDERING WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PAINTING THAT THE BOARD FENCES ALONG THEIR QUESTION, NOT, YOU KNOW, AS SIMPLE AND

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S ALL. WE WILL GO. WE WILL GO TO CLOSING COMMENTS AND MR SECRETS DO YOU STILL ON THE LINE? OKAY, MR HOLE. AH, NOTHING FURTHER FOR ME. MISS OUT. THANKS. I DIDN'T GET TO MENTION IN CAUCUS. I KIND OF JUST WANTED TO PUT ON EVERYONE'S RADAR THAT THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE MENTAL HEALTH ACTION PLAN COMMITTEE, WHICH STARTED MEETING IN DECEMBER. IS REALLY IN THE FINAL STAGES OF PRODUCING THEIR REPORT. SO IF WE COULD PUT IT ON OUR RADAR, POTENTIALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION AT THE 16TH MAY 16TH MEETING IF WE DON'T END UP WITH A CONFLICT OR THE JUNE 6TH MEETING AT THE VERY LATEST, UM, REALLY JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY THANK ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR SUPPORT IN THIS PROJECT FROM DAY ONE COUNCIL. UM WE PASSED THE RESOLUTION THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, 2019. SO WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, PERIOD OF MARKING TIME DURING COVID. MR VYDRA WORKED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. OH, AND MR T FURRED HAD THE BATON PASSED TO HIM AND IT HAS VERY ABLY AND CAPABLY AND, UM, ELOQUENTLY LEAD THIS COMMITTEE, SO IT'S BEEN A GREAT PROJECT. UM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING IT HERE FOR COUNSEL TO HEAR FROM THE COMMITTEE. UM THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT TODAY IS TAX DAY. AND IT IS ALWAYS THE VERY LONGEST LONGEST DAY OF THE YEAR FOR ME, AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING IT EVEN WORSE. SO THAT IS ALL. THANKS FOR EVERYONE THAT STUCK IN THERE THIS EVENING. FOR A LONG EVENING COUNCIL MEETING, AND THAT'S. I'VE ALREADY ASKED MY QUESTION. THANK YOU AGAIN.

WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR ALL YOUR HELP? I KNOW THE YOU KNOW, NOBODY IS A NOBODY ON THIS PANEL OR SITTING OVER TO MY RIGHT OR AGAINST JOBS, BUT PUTTING THE RESIDENTS THAT CURRENTLY LIVE HERE FIRST IS IMPORTANT, SO ASKING SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS IS SOMETIMES NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T END UP HAVING OTHER ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD. SO OUR NEXT MEETING IS MAY 2ND. AT SEVEN P.M. THAT WAS THE FIRST READING SECOND GREETING WILL BE IN OUR NEXT MEETING. DID YOU SIGN UP? SIGN UP ON THE LIST. GIVE ME THE FACT THAT LIST. I MEAN, IT'S THE FIRST READING. YOU'RE BETTER OFF TALKING AT THE SECOND READING WHEN WE ACTUALLY VOTE, BUT I KNOW I SAW ED'S NAME ON THERE FOR 25. UH, SO DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT THE IF THERE IF THE MEETING THAT WE VOTE, OR DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW? ACTUALLY THIS IS FITTING RIGHT NOW IS NEW

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PERMITTED THAT WAS SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF INSTIGATION WE CAN DO ON THAT.

BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT I WANT TO EXPECT OUT OF CONSTRUCTION FROM FISHER HOMES.

ON A MORE PERSONAL NOTE MY PRIMARY RESIDENCE. I FIRST STARTED BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE CONTRACTOR. ABOUT FOUR MONTHS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY CLOSED AND MOVED IN, BECAUSE THE FLOOR IS RUN LEVEL. HE ASSURED ME THAT IT WAS WITHIN THE RANGE, SO I TRUSTED HIS EXPERTISE. WE MOVED IN DECEMBER OF 2020. SO WE'VE BEEN THERE 15 MONTHS LAST JULY, I HAD HIM COME BACK OUT. THE FLOORS WERE AGAIN ON LEVEL. THE DRYWALL IS ACTUALLY PULLING APART AND CRACKING, NOT BENDING IN HALF BUT RIPPING APART. THE FLOORS ARE SO UNLEVEL YOU PUT A LEVEL ON IT, THE BUBBLE DISAPPEARS. THE DOORS WON'T CLOSE. SO FAR, ONE YEAR THIS PAST DECEMBER, I MADE MY LIST.

THAT'S WHERE THEY DO IT AND THEY CAME OUT. THAT WAS THANKSGIVING . I SUBMITTED THE LIST AND WORKING WITH THEM HAS BEEN LIKE PULLING TEETH. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO COMMUNICATION UNLESS I CALL BAG AND THREATENED TO GO TO MEDIATION TO GET THEM TO RETURN MY CALLS. THEY DID SEND EIGHT PEOPLE UP FROM THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE DOWN IN THE CINCINNATI KENTUCKY AREA AFTER I COUNTED THEM. THIS WAS LATE JULY THIS YEAR. I AGREE THAT IT WAS PROBABLY EXPANSIVE SOILS UNDER THE SITE. THEY DID ADMIT THEY NEVER TESTED FOR IT, WHICH AGAIN WITH MY BACKGROUND KIND OF SHOCKED ME. Q I PULLED UP THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN IN 30 SECONDS FOUND THAT THERE WAS WATER ON THAT SITE FOR DECADES WHEN IT WAS A FARM, AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW SOIL SAMPLES ON IT. WHICH AGAIN THAT JUST REALLY SHOCKED ME. SINCE THEN IT TOOK ME SIX WEEKS TO GET THEM TO GET SOILS ENGINEER TO COME OUT BORE THROUGH MY BASEMENT SLAB TAKE SAMPLES. AND AGAIN, I HAD TO KEEP CALLING THEM TO GET THE RESULTS. I GOT THOSE RESULTS 10 DAYS AGO, UM VIA EMAIL. AND THEY SAID IT IS EXPENSIVE SOILS AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. AND AGAIN, IT'S BEEN 10 DAYS WITH NO WORD. SO KIND OF WRAPPING ALL THAT TOGETHER. I HAVE A SERIOUS CONCERN. UM AND MY NEIGHBORS HAD THE SAME CONSERVATIVES. I CAN SPEAK FOR THEM ON THEIR ABOUT OPENING NEW PHASES WHEN WE DON'T FEEL THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE EXISTING PHASES APPROPRIATELY AND SAFELY. COMMUNICATE. SO FOR THAT PURPOSE , I WOULD ASK THAT WE HOLD OFF ON ADDITIONAL PHASES UNTIL WE GET THEM TO RECTIFY. CURRENT SITUATION. WHO IS THE BUILDER? FISHER FISHER. YES. LIKE I CAN HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO ANY OF THIS YEAR. GOING ON. BUT TALKING ABOUT STAR FLEMING. WE DO HAVE A PROCESS IN THE BUILDING DIVISION. WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR BOARD OF APPEAL OR REVIEW THAT WE TAKE A COMPLAINT LIKE THIS. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT DURING INVESTIGATION ON IT AND THEN BRING THE CONTRACTOR AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR THINGS THAT WE FIND. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS. LIKE THIS, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE THEY GET THE FORMS OFF THE WEBSITE SO THEY COULD FILL ONE OUT AND WE CAN START THAT PROCESS CAN WE CAN WE IS TWO WEEKS SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN GET BACK TO US WITHIN TWO WEEKS, OR IS IT GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN THAT? UNTIL I GET A GET INTO THE SOMETHING FILE. YOU KNOW, THEN WE'LL GET IN THERE AND START LOOKING INTO IT. THANKS FOR MENTIONING THIS TONIGHT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL PLAN ITSELF SO THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAT YOU MENTIONED ANOTHER NEW BUSINESS RATHER THAN BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE WITH THEM. BUILDER, SO THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE SO, MR BOZA THE YOU'VE GOT A PLAN OF ACTION. HE'S GOING TO WORK WITH HIM. YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE OR.

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THOUGH OUR BACKDOOR OUR BACKDOOR IS LITERALLY PULLED APART IF IT WASN'T FOR SECURITY STICK THAT WE'VE HAD TO RIG INTO IT. YOU CAN JUST COME INTO OUR HOME TO OUR BACK DOOR. I'VE SPENT LITERALLY THE TWO HOURS BEFORE THIS MEETING, FIGHTING WITH THE CONTRACTOR A YEAR AND A HALF LATER. WHO'S ON FIRST COME FIX THIS PROBLEM, SO WE HAVE TRIED TO GO THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE CHANNELS OF THE BUILDER OF HEY, CAN WE GET SOME HELP SOMEWHERE? WE KNOW THE ONE THING THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THIS PERMITS AND APPROVAL AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, SO WE FIGURE IF WE CAN'T DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. THEN WE'LL BE THIS WEEK, YOU WILL WILL BE THE KAREN JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.

DO YOU GUYS LIVE CLOSE THEN OR YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS? OKAY, SO YOU PROBABLY STILL HAVE THE SAME SOIL VIBE. AGAIN. I DID WANT TO ALSO TOUCH ON AND I THINK THERE'S MULTIPLE RESIDENTS AND I THINK A LOT OF PERSONAL STORIES ABOUT YOUR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. UM BUT ALSO SOME LARGER SAFETY CONCERNS, OVERARCHING IN TERMS OF. SIDEWALKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR LACK THEREOF WALKING PAST AND I THINK THE ONLY REASON THEY ACTUALLY COMPLAINING THAT WE HAVE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING DEPARTMENT SAID NO MORE PERMITS UNTIL WE HAVE X AMOUNT DOWN, AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY MORE SENSE. DOES IT CONTINUE? PROMISES DON'T WORRY. IT'S COMING. ALSO IS CHRISTMAS. YEAH A LACK OF OVERALL RESPONSIVENESS. SO JUST I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT GET SOME OF THESE CONCERNS ADDRESSED. HEY, THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP. SURE. SO AGAIN.

I LOOKED AT GOOGLE EARTH GOING BACK HISTORICALLY, AND I LOOKED AT THE FRANKLIN COUNTY GIS MAPS . UM APPARENTLY, IT'S BEING THE TWO VACANT LOTS. NEXT TIME YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE ISSUES.

WHEN FISHER DID COME OUT, I LET THEM KNOW WHAT I FOUND SO THAT HOPEFULLY NOT YOUR NEIGHBORS DON'T EXPERIENCES, BUT, UM, WITHIN REASON, MR FLEMING, I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME. OR SHOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES OF THE SOIL IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE MATCH, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE WATER USED TO LAY BACK WHEN IT WAS A FARMER. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.