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OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE'LL HAVE THE ROLL CALL. MR BRYANT. HERE. MR HAN HERE. UM THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 23RD 2022

[2. Approve the minutes from the May 23, 2022 Board of Zoning Appeals.]

BORDER ZONING APPEALS MEETING. WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. OUR SECOND. MR BRANDT? YES, MR HAN. OKAY THE NEXT ITEM , THEN IS TO HEAR THE APPEAL OF THOMAS TRADE WILL IN THE THIRD.

[3. Hear the appeal of Thomas (Trey) Bolin III, property owner for 4127 Franklin St., (Parcel #040-000858) for a variance to Section (Table) 1135.10-I; to encroach the 25’ rear yard setback by 20’, by constructing a garage, for a total rear yard setback of 5’.]

PROPERTY OWNER FOR 41227. FRANKLIN STREET. PARCEL NUMBER 040-000. FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION CABLE 11 35.10 DASH ONE TWO. ENCROACH THE 25 YARD REAR YARD SETBACK BY 20 FT BY CONSTRUCTING YOUR GARAGE FOR TOTAL REAR YARD SETBACK OF FIVE FT. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO TESTIFY ? MR BOLAND? DOES HE HAVE TO BE SMART OR YOU HAVE TO BE SWORN? I'M SORRY. COULD BOTH HAVE YOUR STAND, AND YOU CAN BOTH BE SWORN AT THE SAME TIME. SORRY. THAT'S MY PHONE. THANK YOU HERE TO HELP EACH OTHER. YEAH. ALRIGHT SO, UM, YEAH, BASICALLY JUST WHAT YOU NOTED. THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO LIFT YOUR MICROPHONE LEVEL. YEAH JUST WHAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO BASICALLY TAKE THE GARAGE BACK TO ABOUT FIVE FT. FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. UM UM, REMOVING AN EXISTING SHEDS BACK THERE. UM, BASICALLY DOING IT JUST EXPAND MORE STORAGE SPACE AS WELL AS HAVE ADDITIONAL INSIDE. PARKING, UM. I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THOSE YARDS WERE PUT IN ABOUT PROBABLY ABOUT 100 YEARS AGO, SO YOU KNOW, THE BUILT UNDER THE OLD ZONING CODES, SO IT'S A BUT A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES YOU KNOW, IN MY DIVISION. HAVE BEEN BACKING UP TO THAT AREA AND IT'S BASICALLY I'VE DONE YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY ALREADY, SO THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. MR MARTIN, JUST SEEING THE NOTES HERE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE GARAGE KIND OF MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSE. CORRECT AS WAS GONNA BE ACTUALLY RECENTLY EXCITED, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A SIMILAR COLOR TO THAT. YEAH. AND YOU'RE GOING TO ATTACH. LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A NEW, FAIRLY NEW CONCRETE DRIVEWAY. YOU'RE GONNA ATTACH THAT TO THE NEW GARAGES THAT GOES BACK CORRECTLY, OKAY? YEAH. MORE QUESTIONS. YOU WANT US TO WORRY ABOUT? ANY NEIGHBORS. WELL YEAH, ALWAYS OR YOU CAN HAVE ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS RESPONDED. NO SIR. THEY HAVE NOT. OKAY UH, I HAVE QUESTION. I TAKE IT THAT WERE THE SHED IS CURRENTLY LOCATED. YOU'LL BE TEARING IT DOWN AND THE GARAGE WILL OCCUPY PART OF THAT PART OF THE GARAGE WILL BE OCCUPIED BY THAT AREA. CORRECT YES. OKAY, SO, BASICALLY , THEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE NOT REALLY MODIFYING THE BOUNDARY LINE. AH! WELL YOU'RE IN THE BACK PUBLIC, BUT YOU'RE NOT ON THE ONE SIDE, WHICH IS CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE NOW. CORRECT THE WAY I MEASURED IT, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE BIT EVEN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER FROM THE POVERTY LINE TO MAKE IT THAT FIVE FT. EXACTLY. THERE. FROM WHERE THE SHIP IS SO YEAH. AND THEY'RE NOT, UH, FROM WHAT YOU'VE INDICATED IN YOUR APPLICATION. UH, IT WOULD NOT BE PRACTICAL FOR YOU TO PUT THE GARAGE SO THAT IT FACES THE ALLEY THAT'S BEHIND THE PROPERTY. BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS WITH THE AUTOMATIC DOOR. WELL YES, SO THAT AND THEN THE THERE'S A WAREHOUSE THAT BACKS UP BEHIND MY PROPERTY. AND RIGHT WHERE MY PROPERTY ENDS AT MY HOUSE IS KIND OF A BUMP OUT OF THAT WAREHOUSE. AND SO IT WOULD JUST BE DIFFICULT WITH THAT DOOR TO BE ABLE TO PULL IN THERE AT ALL PREVIOUS, RIGHT? YEAH HOW? HOW WIDE? IS SHE ALLEY? WANT US PRIDE AROUND SIX FT OR NOT ENTIRELY SURE, IT'S REALLY ONLY OUT WITH REALLY ONE V WOULD ALL WOULD BE ALL THAT COMPETE. OKAY AND THERE'S THE WAREHOUSE RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY. YEAH, UM OVER MY PROPERTY LINE. HOW HOW FAR WOULD YOU ESTIMATE

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IT IS SET BACK FROM THE ALLEY. YES MAYBE ONLY A FOOT FOOT AND A HALF FROM THE ALLEY, SO IT'S REALLY LIKE THE THERE'S A GARAGE DOOR BACK THERE, TOO ON THE WAREHOUSE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO THE ALLEY. TOASTED BILLY. WHAT'S THAT? THE OLD SO BUILDING OVER THERE? YES. OKAY, UM JUST STAFF HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY STATEMENTS TO MAKE. OKAY. AND THAT CASE, THEN, UH, I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION AND WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE YOU SET IN THAT, UM I MOVE THAT. VARIANTS BE GRANTED TO PERMIT THE ENCROACHMENT. UH. TO ENCROACH THE 25 FT REAR YARD SETBACK BY 20 FT BY CONSTRUCTING THEIR GARAGE FOR TOTAL REAR YARD SETBACK OF FIVE FT. OH, SECONDHAND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. SZABO HAVE A VOTE THEN, MR BRANDT? YES, MR HAN.

THANK YOU. ONE CAUTION PEOPLE HAD AND, UM. PARTIES THAT ARE NOT PRESENT HAVE A RIGHT TO APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL. SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT 21 DAYS BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY START TO DO THE WORK OR YOU TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF. WASN'T THERE A STIPULATION SP STARTED WITHIN AGAIN. THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE MOTION. THEY HAVE TO. YOU HAVE TO START WITHIN 12.

UM OR WITHIN A YEAR. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY. BUT YOU'RE NOT. AND YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING YOU NEED TO DO. OKAY

[4. Hear the appeal of Matt Randall, property owner for 2467 Clover Blossom Ct. (Parcel #040-005390) for a variance to Section 1137.05; to encroach the 40’ front building setback on Hoover Rd. by 18’ by installing a 6’ tall wood privacy fence, a 4’ tall wood picket fence, or a 5’ tall black aluminum, fence for a total front setback of 22’.]

THE NEXT ITEM, THEN WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS, UH, TO GRANT A VARIANCE TO THE CODE TO 11 37 POINT. OH, FIVE. TO ENCROACH THE 40 FT FRONT BUILDING SETBACK ON HOOVER ROAD BY 18 FT BY INSTALLING A SIX FT TALL AND I'M GOING TO DROP THE WORD PRIVACY OR WOULD AND JUST KEEP A SIX FT TALL PRIVACY FENCE OF FOUR FT TALL WOULD PICKET FENCE OR FIVE FT. TALL BLACK ALUMINUM FENCE FOR TOTAL FRONT SETBACK OF 22 FT. I GUESS I'M SURE KEPT IT IN. SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CASTLE? YES SO I IT'S THE SIDE OF MY PROPERTY. THERE ARE, UM LIKE NINE PINE TREES THAT WERE ON WITH HOOVER ROAD. UM ORIGINALLY NOT FOR THE PICTURES ARE THERE ORIGINALLY TALKED TO THE CITY ABOUT WORKING WITH ME TO REPLACE THOSE PINE TREES, AND THAT'S HOW I REALIZED THAT MY PROPERTY ACTUALLY GOES IN FRONT OF THOSE PINE TREES. SO THAT'D BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY WHERE I COULD FENCE IT IN AND GIVE MY KIDS MORE PLAY AREA WHERE I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC ON HOOVER ROAD HAVING THEM BE OUT THERE OR NOT WATCHING THEM LIKE A HAWK. UM I FOUND OUT THOSE WERE ON MY PROPERTY AND TRY TO GET DEFENSE IN FRONT. AND THEN WE PUSHED IT BACK TO BEHIND THE PINE TREES AS YOU CAN SEE ON NOT SURE WHAT SIDE THAT IS ON YOURS. BUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF I'M SEEING IT. ALL THE PINE TREES THAT LINE THERE, SO I'M LOOKING TO TAKE THE FENCE UP TO THAT. UM KNOWING THAT IT IS PAST THE LINE, BUT NOT VISUALLY PAST THE BARRIER OF THE PINE TREES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. OH, YEAH , I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FOLLOW IT. OKAY, OPTIONS WITH THE FENCE. UM THE WHOLE GOAL AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THINKING THROUGH IS I WANT TO KEEP THE PINE TREES. ONE IS DEAD. A COUPLE OF THEM WERE DYING, AND I'VE GOT TO REPLACE. I WANT TO REPLACE THEM JUST BECAUSE I HATE TO GET RID OF TREES. THEY WON'T STOP FALLING DOWN AROUND ME, BUT, UH, I WANT TO DO THAT, AND IF IT'S NOT A PRIVACY FANS AS I PUT A PINE TREE THERE, AND IT GROWS, I'M REALLY NOT GONNA HAVE THAT VISUAL BARRIER FROM THE HIGHER TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING ON HOOVER ROAD. BUT I'M WILLING TO TRY TO COMPROMISE TO DO A MORE OPAQUE FENCE IS POSSIBLE. I DON'T WANT TO. I WANT TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE, BUT TRULY MY GOAL IS TO HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE FROM THE HEAVY TRAFFIC. I DON'T FEEL THAT IT WILL BE MUCH OF A BURDEN

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VISUALLY BECAUSE OF ALL THE PINE TREES AND IF YOU HAVE THE OTHER PICTURES ATTACHED FROM HOOVER ROAD UM, YOU REALLY YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH THE PINE TREES AND WITH THE MAPLE TREE AND FRONT UM IT'S A VERY LOW VISUAL. OF OFFENSE YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE. DO YOU HAVE THE PICTURES? YEAH, WE HAVE A PICTURE OR NOT. YEAH YEAH. SO DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO? YEAH.

SO I MEAN, I HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS OF FENCING, AND WE CAN GO ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN WITHOUT BOGGING YOU GUYS DOWN OF DESIGNING THROUGH EVERY OPTION, BUT THAT WAS. MY REASON FOR THE FENCE IN WHAT I THOUGHT PRIVACY FENCE. WOULD WORK. YOU'RE LATE QUESTION. HMM NO, GO AHEAD.

OKAY, UM WELL, THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, THE CITY HAS RECOMMENDED THAT IS HIS OWNING PEOPLE HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE THE FIVE FT BLOCK ALUMINUM FENCE. DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? THE PROBLEM IS, I WON'T HAVE REALLY ANY VISUAL PRIVACY. SO AS I REPLACED THOSE PINE TREES THAT ARE DYING IN THEIR SMALLER FOR SEVERAL YEARS, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE REALLY ANY VISUAL PRIVACY. FROM MANY OF THEM HAVE HEAVIER TRAFFIC. SO IN THE COST OF IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE FOR THAT ALUMINUM. THEN WHAT ARE PRESSURE TREATED FENCE WOULD BE HEY, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY THEN PREFER ONE OF THE WOODEN FENCE OPTIONS LIKE TO START FOREFOOT. FOUR YEAH. FOUR OR FIVE FT. I MEAN, SO I TRIED TO SHOW DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THE BLACK WOULD BE LIKE THE VERY LAST LIKE THERE'S NO CHANCE WE'RE GONNA APPROVE IT THIS FAR OUT. THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GETTING IT IS IF YOU DO THIS, I'M REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, CONSIDER IT MAYBE LANDSCAPING WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION. NOW THE ONLY PLACE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THIS I TAKE IT IS ALONG THE WHERE THE TREES ARE. PRAISING THEM BACK TO MY HOUSE, SO IT'LL BE A THREE SIDED FENCE . IT'S GOING TO BE A THREE SIDED YES. YEAH I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE OTHER THING THAT YOU'D BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IS THE COST. IS THAT TRUE? HAVE YOU CHECKED THE CALLS THAT ALL THREE FENCES AND HOW DO YOU FIND HIM? COMPARATIVE. UNTIL ONE ANOTHER. AH! LIKE WELL, I KNOW THE BLACK ALUMINUM IS GOING TO COST A LOT MORE LIKE A SIX FT SECTIONS LIKE 126. I DON'T HAVE THE COST BREAKDOWN, BUT JUST THE COST OF THE MATERIAL WOULD BE MORE WELL , 11 PRICE. I HAVE A PRICE ON HOW I JUST KNOWING OBVIOUSLY, A SIX FT PRIVACY, PRETTY STANDARD FENCE, PROBABLY LIKE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT OF THE FANCIER ONE WITH LIKE A CAP TO IT. UM THAT YOU SEE THERE WOULD BE DOING IT MYSELF. I WOULD PROBABLY DO THAT. JUST ADDRESS IT UP BECAUSE IT IS SO, UM I GUESS MORE PEOPLE CAN SEE THAN THE ONE IN MY BACK. THAT'S GOING TO COME OFF THE FRONT CORNER OF YOUR HOUSE. YES CORRECT AND THEN OBVIOUSLY HEAD OUT TOWARDS HOOVER AND THEN COME BACK ALONG THE INSIDE YOUR PINE TREES. I'M OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S IF IT'S A PICKET FENCE IS GOING TO COST LESS BECAUSE LESS PANELS AND THEN IF IT'S SHORTER, OBVIOUSLY LESS MATERIAL ON DOWN UP UNTIL YOU GET TO THE BLACK.

ARE THERE. OTHER FENCES ALONG THE CLOVER BLOSSOM COURT. DR THERE. UM. YEAH, THERE'S A THERE'S A BLACK FENCE. UM, LIKE THE IRON ONE. ONE BUBBLES. WHAT ARE THEY? WHAT MATERIAL WHERE THEY MADE OF, OR THEY MADE OF WOOD OR METAL ALUMINUM ITS WAY BACK SURROUNDED BY HOUSES.

THAT'S ONE I DON'T KNOW. MY NEIGHBOR RIGHT NEXT TO ME. BOTH. MY NEIGHBORS HAVE WOOD FENCE WE ACTUALLY SHARE THEY DO HAVE WOODEN CANCER. WE BOTH SHARE SIX FT PRIVACY FENCES. THAT MAKES YOU UNIQUE. OF COURSE YOU'RE A QUARTER LOT. THAT'S WHAT YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I'M ONE OF THE THINGS THAT. LIKE I WASN'T TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, POINTING IT OUT THE OTHER HOUSES LONG HOOVER ROAD. THERE'S THE REAR LOTS. THEY ALL HAVE FENCES DOWN THAT AND I'M NOT EXCEEDING PAST THOSE FENCE LINES OF THE REAR YARD. OBVIOUSLY IT'S A DIFFERENT PARAMETERS. THOSE ARE REAR YARDS, WHICH ARE DIFFERENT THAN MINE BEING A SIDE YARD. RIGHT. SO I'M NOT LIKE I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I'M NOT TRYING TO GO PAST THOSE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HELPING. THOSE ARE ALL WOODEN FENCES FOR THOSE REAR YARDS. ARE THOSE ALONG, COOPER BROKE. YEAH, YEAH, LIKE, SO I'M

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JUST NORTH OF LIKE THE KROGER. SO GOING SOUTH DOWN HOOVER ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET, THE QUAIL CREEK HOUSES THAT THAT BACK UP TO IT HAPPENED. YEAH, I WANNA DIRECT. QUESTIONS ARE MORE FOR A SECOND. WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO BE SCREENED BY, UH SINCE HE'S MOVING AT BEHIND THE PINE TREES WOULD HE BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE PINE TREE? ALONG THERE. NO THERE THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT. IN FACT, I TALKED TO THE URBAN FORESTER AND SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD LOOKED TO AND IDENTIFY THAT THOSE TREES ARE NOT IN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY. THEY BELONG TO UM THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS WITH THOSE TREES. SO IF HE WANTS TO TAKE THEM ALL DOWN TOMORROW, HE CAN DO SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT YOU WROTE IN OUR STAFF REPORT. WHICH THE CONCERN ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE IF THEY PUT UP A WOODEN FENCE OR OR PUT UP THE METAL FENCE. AND WHAT ARE THE REASONS YOU WERE RECOMMENDING? THAT IS SO THAT THEY THERE WERE SOME TYPE OF CHANGE MADE LONG. HOOVER THAT I GUESS IT WOULD BE SOMEONE DRIVING UP BLOSSOM COURT. CLOVER BLOSSOM COURT WOULD BE ABLE TO SEATTLE. YEAH THERE'S A TECHNICAL CONSIDERATIONS TO TAKE IN. PRISON I PERSONALLY THINK THAT ALL BE LEFT TO THE PROPERTY. TO MAKE THE DECISION IF IT'S NOT MANDATED BY THE CODE. YEAH, I LIKE TO SAY LIKE I DO PLAN ON MAINTAINING THE PINE TREES. IT'S AND I LOOK TO GET LIKE A SIX FT. PINE TREATS 200. THEY'LL PLANT IT FOR AN ADDITIONAL 50% SO IT'S 300 PER PINE TREE. ONE IS DEAD AS A DOOR KNOB. I GOTTA GET IT CUT DOWN. UM WHICH I CAN I CAN DO AND GET IT REPLACED, BUT OBVIOUSLY A SIX FT PINE TREES OPPOSED TO A 30 FT ONE. IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO FILL IN AND THEN OTHER ONES NEED TO BE REPLACED. THERE'S LIKE SEVEN OR NINE SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT A CHUNK OF CHANGE, BUT I WILL MAINTAIN THE PINE TREES. YEAH YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA AT ALL WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE IN THE COST OF THE THREE FENCES. UM. AH NO, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS OFF TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT IT WOULD BE. I CAN TRY TO FIGURE I CAN GIVE ME GIVE ME JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES. I CAN FIGURE IT OUT. I JUST NEED TO LOOK AT POST. I GUESS THERE'S ONE THING THAT WE COULD DO. YES, STARTED LEGAL COUNSEL THIS IF WE WERE JUST TO MAKE A MOTION THAT INCLUDED ALL THREE, LEAVING HIM THE CHOICE OF ALL THREE TYPES OF FENCES. DO YOU SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? NO I MEAN IT LEAVES IT UP TO IT LEAVES IT UP TO HIM. OKAY? WELL, YOU SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED, WHICH IS THE METAL FENCE. WELL, ONLY THE ONLY PROBLEM I WOULD DO WITH THAT. IS THAT A GIVES THE ABILITY TO DO. AN OPTION THAT THE CITY DID NOT RECOMMEND, BUT I THINK IT'S IN YOUR POWER TO DO IT. CERTAINLY. THE CITY WANTS THE METAL FENCE. IF YOU GIVE THEM THE OPTIONS, HE DOESN'T DO THE METAL FENCE. THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE ON THAT. THAT'S NOT A LEGAL ISSUE. WELL, SEE, I WONDER, REALLY, THAT WAS THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO MANDATE THE METAL FENCE. OKAY LAUREL ON THE REASON THAT HE HAD TO PLAY FOR THE BEHAVIOR VARIANCES BECAUSE THE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW ANYTHING TALLER THAN 42 INCHES IN THE AREA WHERE HE'S WANTING TO PUT THE FENCE. HIS CHOICES PER THE CODE WOULD BE. SPLIT RAIL OR SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A KENTUCKY HORSE FENCE. THAT'S ALL THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED THERE. HE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT. THAT'S WHY HE HAD TO COME BEFORE B. C A. AND SO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO WITH MY RECOMMENDATION AS I WAS TRYING TO STAY AS CLOSE TO WHAT THE OPACITY WOULD BE OF A SPLIT RAIL OR CHAIN LINK FENCE, BUT YET STILL GIVE HIM THE SECURITY THAT HE WANTED BY ALLOWING HIM TO GO FIVE FT. WITH OFFENSE THAT COULD HAVE THE POINTS AT THE TOP, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE SECURITY BUT ALSO HAVE THE AESTHETIC AND THE OPENNESS THAT THE FENCE THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED WOULD PROVIDE. BUT BUT THE ONE THING THAT THIS START GIVING THAT HE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS PRIVACY CORRECT, BUT HE HAS HE HAS THE TREES. THAT ARE THERE IN WHEN WE HAVE MADE OTHER, UM, CONCESSIONS AND GRANTED VARIANCES. IN OTHER CASES, WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE SCREEN. FENCES UM TO JUST SO THAT THEY'RE NOT NOT AS OBVIOUS . THE OTHER, UM, FACTOR IN THIS FOR ME IS THAT HE IS REQUESTING TO DEVIATE 18 FT OR ENCROACH 18 FT. NOT 10, NOT 8 18 FT INTO THE

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SETBACK, AND THE THIRD FACTOR FOR ME IS THAT THE HOUSE? WAS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED. BACK FROM THE INITIAL SETBACKS, SO THERE IS ALREADY A SIDE YARD THAT IS AVAILABLE. FOR UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S 100 AND 50 FT LONG LOT. IT'S VERY LONG LOT WHERE THE HOUSE WAS SET. IT'S SET BACK FROM THE SIDE YARD, SO HE'S ALREADY GOT THAT SPACE AND THEN YOU ADD ANOTHER 18. THERE IS REALLY A BIG, BIG YARD. UM AND I SO THAT'S WHERE MY RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM, WAS LOOKING AT THOSE FACTORS. AND RIGHT NOW HE HAS A NATURAL SCREEN ALREADY WITH ALL THE PINE TREES. I WOULD SUPPORT WHAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDS YOU MAKE THE MOTION MIND AND THEN I'LL JUST SECOND. WHATEVER YOU MAKE. THAT WAY. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO. PER THE STAFF REPORT THAT THANKS TO THE OPTION C OPTION C, WHICH WAS THE METAL AND THEN IF I DON'T DO THAT, DO I JUST LET THE PERMIT EXPIRE? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR MIKE IS IT'S ONLY BUT I'M ASSUMING SO, YES, BUT WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE 12 MONTHS STIPULATION ANYWAY. AND IF YOU DON'T 12 MONTHS THAT IS OKAY. S.

LANDSCAPING IS NOT PART OF THIS BY JUST PLANT ROWS OF ARVIDA AND JUST COMPLETELY CLOSE IT OFF.

THERE'S NO RIGHT THERE'S LANDSCAPING AT ALL. THE ONLY STIPULATION THAT WE GO ALONG IS 12 THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WITHIN 12 MONTHS OPTIONAL WITH YOU IF YOU DO WHATEVER YOU WRITE, AWESOME, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO, UH, WHETHER I WANT TO DO THE ALUMINUM FENCE FOR SURE OR NOT, OKAY? WELL, IF YOU IF YOU DECIDE YOU HAVE PROBLEMS, YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK. YES, SURE.

YEAH 12 MONTHS EXPERIMENT COME BACK TOGETHER. THE ONLY THING IS THAT WILL DELAY YOU UP TO YEAR.

OKAY OKAY, THEN I'LL CALL THE ROLL CALL ON THE MOTION. WHAT'S THAT? A 2ND? 1ST 2ND? I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT I DID. MOTION TO APPROVE. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FIVE FT. 5 FT. BLACK ALUMINUM. PER LET'S ON AND THEN WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT. THAT IT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN 12 MONTHS. AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT DEBT? SO ROLL CALL, MR BRANDT? YES, MR HAN. OKAY AND AGAIN, THERE'S A 21 DAY WAITING PERIOD BECAUSE OF, UH, COUNTING PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO UM, APPEALED ACCOUNT OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE SO I CAN DO BOTH. BECAUSE YOU RIGHT IN THE WAY, THE ONLY THE ONLY TYPE OF FENCE IF YOU REALLY HAVE IN THIS SITUATION WITH A SPLIT RAIL. RIGHT? WHICHT THAT? NO NO, RIGHT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE? YOU SAID YOUR KIDS ARE IN THE BACKYARD FOR SAFETY. I GET IT WITH THE BUSY ROAD OUT THERE SOMETHING EXCEPT TO LOOK AT. I HAVEN'T LOOKED LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T LOOKED UP BECAUSE I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COST IS. YES, YES. OH THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE FOR HEARING ME OUT.

SURE ALRIGHT. HAVE A GOOD REST YOUR DAY. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. I HOPE IT DOES. IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE THAN I THINK ABOUT IT. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, THANKS FOR COMING. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? NO, SIR. OKAY, THEN, UH WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.