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GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. IT'S 1 30. WELCOME TO THE GROVE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
[A. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]
THEY CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. YOU COULD START WITH A ROLL CALL. HERE. MR FREE. ROYSTER MR LINDER. MR TITUS. YOU JOIN ME IN STANDING FROM A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. TO THE FLAG. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION.OH, GOD. LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW
[C. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES – August 2, 2022]
THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 2ND MEETING. IF WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH EMOTION. HERE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ONE TYPO ON PAGE SIX. WORD NIGHT SHOULD BE NOT.AND THE CITY WILL MAKE THAT CORRECTION. REMOVE WITH THAT CORRECTION THAT WE APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. MY SECOND BROKE OFF. YES. YES MR FREE? YES. OYSTER. I NEED TO ABSTAIN AS I WAS NOT AT THAT MEETING. MR TITUS? YES. GREAT WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
WHEN YOUR APPLICATION IS CALLED THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE COULD STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. IT CAN BE YOUR HOME ADDRESS OR CAN BE YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS. AND AFTER THAT THE CITY WILL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON THE APPLICATION.
AND WHEN THEY DO, PLEASE STAY AT THE PODIUM AS WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS AND ASK QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. SO TO GET STARTED, APPLICATION NUMBER ONE. DOES HIS DOGHOUSE SPECIAL USE
[1. APPLICATION: Desi’s Dog House – Special Use Permit (Dog Grooming)]
PERMIT FOR DOG GROOMING. HI. CARLUCCI AND THE ADDRESS IS 2 TO 39 STRING TOWN ROAD. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A DOG GROOMING BUSINESS AT 22 39 STRING TOWN ROAD. CITY COUNCIL APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN 1989 FOR THE HEARTLAND SHOPPING CENTER AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF STRING TOWN ROAD AND PARK ME DRIVE. IN 2012 CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A DOG GROOMING BUSINESS FOR PAWS AND A TAIL AT 22 37 STRING TOWN ROAD. THE PROPOSED SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS FOR A DOG GROOMING BUSINESS DISEASE DOGHOUSE AT 22 39 STRING TOWN REALLY. THE PROPOSED FACILITY WILL BE LOCATED AND 1100 SQUARE FOOT TENANT SPACE AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OR THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF DERBY SQUARE WITHIN THE SAME SHOPPING CENTER AS THE APPROVED FOUR PAWS AND A TAIL. DOES HIS DOGHOUSE PROVIDES FULL SERVICE DOG GROOMING THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION OR TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, NINE A.M. TO FIVE PM AND I AM TO TWO PM ON SATURDAYS. APPOINTMENTS WILL RANGE BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR HOURS. THE FACILITY WILL HAVE EXTRA DRYWALL AND SOLID TO REDUCE THE NOISE IMPACT ON SURROUNDING TENNIS. THIS LINE WILL HAVE HAVE PARTY PADS AND WEATHER PERMITTING DOGS WILL BE RIGHT OUTSIDE, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT STAFF WILL CLEAN UP AFTER ANY WASTE CREATED BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. THE APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT DOGS WILL BE AT THE LOCATION FOR AN AVERAGE OF 20 TO 30 MINUTES AFTER AN APPOINTMENT IS FINISHED, AND THAT PICK UP AND DROP OFFS TAKE BETWEEN FIVE AND 10 MINUTES. PROPOSED APPLICATION MEETS ALL APPLICABLE STANDARDS OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REVIEW. PROPOSED APPLICATION MEETS ALL GROWTH CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLE ALBERT BOILED GROVE CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLES. SAP BELIEVES THAT THE DOG[00:05:04]
GROOMING BUSINESS WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT SURROUNDING BUSINESSES, NOTING THAT THE AREA HAS OTHER COMMERCIAL USES, AND THAT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SAME USE WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. IN THE SHOPPING CENTER STAFF BELIEVES PROPOSED BUSINESS PRACTICES WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY OR SURROUNDING BUSINESSES. AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION IN THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS PERMITTED. ESTIMATED. THIS CARLY G. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? NO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS ARE PLANNING COMMISSION. HEARING NONE. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST SAY THANK YOU. IT'S NICE TO SEE LOCAL FIRM. INVESTING IN GROUPS CITY A SMALL BUSINESS, SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION. HERE. I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER ONE DOES HIS DOGHOUSE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR DOG GROOMING? SECOND CALL. MR FREE? YES. CHERYL OYSTER? YES. MR ROCK. YES. MR TITUS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPLICATION NUMBER[2. APPLICATION: Communities at Plum Run – Rezoning (SF-1 to PUD-R)]
TWO COMMUNITIES THAT PLUM RUN. YOU'LL YOU'LL BE UP HERE FOR TWO APPLICATIONS, ACTUALLY, BUT THE FIRST ONE IS FOR REZONING. JIM HILL'S PULTE HOMES OF OHIO FOR 75 METRIC PLACE. SOUTH DUBLIN, OHIO. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE 144.27 ACRES AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LONDON, ROQUEFORT ROAD AND JACKSON PIKE FROM SF ONE SINGLE FAMILY TO P. UT ARE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.WITH THE ZONING TEXT. A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE OF 2021. THE PREVIOUS REZONING APPLICATION BY THE APPLICANT FOR THE SITE WAS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 2021 AFTER RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. THE TEXT PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED ON PERMITTED 396 UNITS IN BOTH 60 AND 70 FT WIDE LOTS BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, THE APPLICANT REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO 3 66. AND INCREASED ALL OUR 2 70 FT IN WIDTH. WHICH WAS A TEXAS COUNCIL ULTIMATELY DENIED THE CURRENT APPLICATION INCLUDES 360 UNITS. AND ALL SINGLE FAMILY LIVES REMAIN A MINIMUM OF 70 FT IN WIDTH. ADDITIONALLY THE APPLICANT HAS MODIFIED THE TEXT TO DECREASE THE OVERALL SITE DENSITY. WE'RE TRYING REQUIRE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THE INTEGRATED INTO THE STREETSCAPES AND INCLUDE ADDITIONAL MULTI YEARS PATHWAYS AND OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSED ZONING INCLUDES A P U D TEXAS AT THE STANDARDS FOR THE SITE DEVELOPMENT. BASED ON FEEDBACK RECEIVED DURING BOTH THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUSLY DENIED APPLICATION. FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS STILL REQUIRED HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR STAFF REVIEW. THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, INCLUDING THE SOCIETAL METAL SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH. AND JACKSON TOWNSHIP PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, WEST AND SOUTH. THE GROWTH CITY 2050 FUTURE LAND USING CHARACTER MAP RECOMMENDS THE SITE BE USED AS SUBURBAN LIVING LOW INTENSITY. WHICH LISTS SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AS A PRIMARY RECOMMENDED USE. THE PROPOSED ZONING TAX FOR THE SITE PERMITS DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND DETACHED PATIO CONDOMINIUM HOMES IN THREE SUB AREAS. SO THERE IS A AND B ARE PROPOSED TO BE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. IN SOME AREAS. C IS PROPOSED TO BE PATIO CONDOMINIUM HOMES. A MAXIMUM OF 360 UNITS ARE PERMITTED BETWEEN ALL SUB AREAS FOR DENSITY NOT TO EXCEED 2.5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS LOWER THAN THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WAS 2.74 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED FOR THIS SITE IN 2004, WHICH WAS 2.66 DWELLING IN HIS BREAKER. AND THE DENSITY IS SIMILAR TO OTHER AREA DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING FARMSTEAD, PINNACLE COREY AND TRAIL VIEW RUN. THE TEXT ESTABLISHES ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR THE SITE, INCLUDING MASON REQUIREMENTS AND UTILIZATION OF HIGH QUALITY ELEMENTS AND MATERIALS. INCLUDING HARDY PLANK AND OTHER MASONRY. THE TEXT STATES THAT ALL HOMES WILL HAVE FORESIGHTED ARCHITECTURE, WHICH REQUIRES AT LEAST ONE ELEMENT SUCH AS PORCHES, SHUTTERS, DORMERS, AND THEY WINDOWS ON EACH ELEVATION. THE PROPOSED TEXT NOTES THAT AN EIGHT FT WIDE REGIONAL PATH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AND DEDICATED FOR PUBLIC USE TO PROVIDE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE LARGER COMMUNITY AND ACCESS THE NATURAL AREAS BORDERING PLUM RUNS ITS FURTHER STATES THAT THE PLUMBER
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ON STREAM CORRIDOR AND ASSOCIATED FLOODPLAIN WILL ALSO BE PRESERVED AND ACTIVATED BY A PATH SYSTEM AND SCENIC OVER YOUR LOOKS. THE FINAL LOCATIONS OF TRAILS ON SITE WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE APPLICANT CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STUDY ALONG WITH THIS APPLICATION TO IDENTIFY APPROPRIATE IMPROVEMENTS TO AREA ROADWAYS WITHIN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THESE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE TURN LANES AND DECELERATION LANES AT ALL SIDE ENTRANCES ON JACKSON PIKE AND LONDON GROVE COURT ROAD. THE CITY'S ENGINEERING CONSULTANT AND THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, HAVE REVIEWED THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND APPROVED THE RESULTS. STAFF BELIEVES THE STANDARDS SET BY THE ZONING TEST CAN RESULT IN THE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT IN LINE WITH THE PRINCIPLES OF THE GROUP CITY 2050 COMMUNITY PLAN AND THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND THEREFORE, AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING HAS SUBMITTED. DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? YES PLEASE. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JIM HILLS . WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE COMMUNITIES TO PLUMBER ON WITH ME OR TOM HARDER . ZONING ATTORNEY GREG CHILA OR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, AND JOHN BUCHANAN, WHO IS OUR CIVIL ENGINEER. GREG'S GOING TO REVIEW THE STATE PLAN AND GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES AND UPDATES TOM'S GOING TO REVIEW THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND PROPOSED OFFSITE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. UM. BEFORE THAT. I DID WANT TO WALK THROUGH SOME STUFF. UH SOME SLIDES THAT REALLY DISCUSS AND SHOW WHERE THE HOUSING MARKET IS TODAY. UM THERE'S AN UPDATE BEING PROVIDED FOR THE BIS HOUSING STUDY. YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT TARGETING THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND WHERE THE HOUSING MARKET IS, WE ALL KNOW THERE'S A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN JOBS AND HOUSING, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THIS SLIDE. THIS SHOWS A COMPARISON BETWEEN JOBS AND HOUSING PERMITS. IF YOU NOTICE THERE ONLY FOUR YEARS WHERE WE'VE SEEN LOST JOBS SINCE 1991 , INCLUDING 2020, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING PERMITS ARE NOWHERE CLOSE TO MATCHING THE JOB GROWTH WE'VE HAD SINCE 2010. THIS SLIDE IS, UM THE GREEN SO. FOR A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. THE GREEN IS A COMPOUND ANNUAL GROWTH FROM 1990 TO 2019 AND THE RED IS JOB GROWTH FROM 2010 TO 2019. UM SO THAT THAT SHORTER TIME PERIOD, UM, SHOWS THAT THE GRUB JOB GROWTH IS HAS BEEN HIGHER. PROJECTED JOB GROWTH FROM 2022 TO 2032 IS YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS 145,202 103,000 JOBS OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. DUCK.OKAY. SORRY. SO THIS SLIDE. OKAY? OKAY? THIS SLIDE SHOWS PROJECTED HOUSING DEMAND BASED ON THE JOB GROWTH OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. WE'RE LOOKING AT 333,000 UNITS NEEDED. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT THAT'S 33,000 UNITS A YEAR OVER THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD. WE'VE AVERAGED 8200 PERMITS. PER YEAR SINCE 2010 SO WE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER, UM UNDER THE DEMAND. GOING BACKWARDS. AND UM, WE'RE THE YOU KNOW. HOW DO WE CATCH UP TO MEET THE JOB GROWTH THAT WE HAVE? THIS SLIDE SHOWS HOUSING DEMAND BY INCOME RANGES, AND THE DEMAND GROWS FOR SALE PRODUCT AS INCOME GROWS WITH THE GREATEST DEMAND WHERE HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS OF THE HIGHEST, UM, SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA. WHEN YOU BREAK THESE NUMBERS DOWN, THE BRAKE BASICALLY BREAKS DOWN TO 48% RENTAL UNITS AND 52% OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS. AND THIS IS THE LAST LETTER I'M GONNA TOUCH ON.
THIS IS THE ANNUAL HOME PRICE GROWTH IN HOUSEHOLD INCOME GROWTH ACROSS CENTRAL OHIO. AS YOU CAN SEE HOME PRICES ARE OUTPACING INCOME GROWTH FOR 4 TO 5 TIMES. UM AND A LOT OF THIS CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE LACK OF INVENTORY WE'VE HAD FOR THE FOR THE DEMAND THAT EXISTS IN THE MARKETPLACE. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TOUCH ON. A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE REAL QUICKLY. UM, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT CENTRAL HAS BEEN UNDER BUILDING MARKET. UM AND BASED ON THE JOB GROWTH
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IN THE DEMAND FOR YEARS, UM, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED. OUR TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN ACCEPTED AND APPROVED BY GROWTH. CITY. NO DOT UM, THE RECOMMENDED OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR WILL COST US $3 MILLION TO PUT TO, UM TO CONSTRUCT. UM WE'VE OFFERED FOUR DIFFERENT HOUSING MODEL OPTIONS TO RANCHING. TWO STORY FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AREA THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IN THIS AREA NOW, UM AND THERE'S AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT OUT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS JUST A, UH, A FARM FIELD IN THE MIDDLE OF A, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VACANT LAND. UM SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO GREAT VILLAIN. AND GREG, IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR FULL NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. MY NAME IS GREG CHILLEN. MY INTEREST IS 3 30 WEST SPRING STREET SUITE. 3 50. COLUMBUS, OHIO, 43215. UM I'M JUST LIKE TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE FEATURES OF THE PLAN AND SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, UM SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE LAST, UM, AS JIM STATED UH, WE'RE PROPOSING 360 UNITS ON THE SITE. ORIGINALLY WE WERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 399 UNITS. UM OTHERS, 3 62 166 OF THOSE UNITS ARE MORE THAN TRADITIONAL SUBURBAN SINGLE FAMILY. 94 OF THOSE UNITS FALL INTO WHAT WE CONSIDER THE EMPTY NESTER OR H TARGETED PATIO PATIO TYPE UNITS. UM. AS AS FROM THE BEGINNING IN OUR ORIGINAL PLANE. THAT THE SITE PLAN IS ORGANIZED AROUND THE PLUM RUN STREAM CORRIDOR. IT'S A FOCAL POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. UM AND WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND MAKE THAT MORE THAN A MORE THAN OUR DEVELOPMENTS. AMENITY BUT IT'S A COMMUNITY WIDE AMENITY, PROVIDING ACCESS TO EVERYBODY. UM WE HAVE OVER 48 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE AND GREEN SPACE ON THE SITE. THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE ON THE SITE. WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE OPTIONS AS A RESIDENT ON HOW YOU EXPERIENCE NATURE, HOW YOU EXPERIENCE RECREATION. WE HAVE NATURAL PRESERVES. WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. THESE AREAS ARE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE SITE, SO THEY PROVIDE ACCESS NEARBY ACCESS FOR RESIDENTS, SO THEY'RE NOT ALL IN ONE AREA, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, SO IT'S VERY WALKABLE, VERY ACCESSIBLE TO THE RESIDENTS. ONE OF THE OTHER MAJOR BENEFITS THAN SITE PLAN IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE A MAJOR EAST WEST PATH CONNECTION THAT CONNECTS STATE ROUTES ONE OF FOUR ON THE WEST. TO THE NORTHEAST. ONE OF OUR SITE THAT GETS IT VERY CLOSE TO THE METRO PARK. THIS WAS AN ELEMENT THAT WE SAW IN YOUR COMMUNITY PLAN. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT. AND WE'VE WE'VE MADE A LOT OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS. THAT PATH RUNS ALONG THE PLUM RUN STREAM CORRIDOR PROVIDES PERIODIC OVERLOOKS OF THAT AREA. SO WHILE WE'RE NOT IN THE CORRIDOR ITSELF AND DISTURBING THE WETLANDS AND WOODLANDS THAT YOU FIND THERE, BUT IT RUNS ALONG, AND THAT GIVES YOU GIVES YOU GOOD VIEWS. UM ACCESS TO OUR SITE IS FROM THREE SIDES OF OUR SITE. WE HAVE ACCESS FROM ONE OF FOUR SEVERAL ACCESS POINTS FROM 6 65 ON THE SOUTH. WHEN ACCESS FROM 6 65 ON THE EAST AND WE'RE ALSO CONNECTING TO EXISTING STREET STUBS ON THE NORTH. UM ONE OF THE OTHER MAJOR THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON ON THE PLANE IS TO PROVIDE TRAFFIC CALMING THROUGHOUT THE SITE. UM WE KNOW WE KNOW TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC FLOWS THROUGH HERE IS VERY IMPORTANT AND WE ALSO WANT TO PROTECT THE FUTURE RESIDENTS FROM FROM TRAFFIC TRAFFIC IMPACT , SO WE'VE WORKED. WE'VE WORKED WITH THE STAFF TO CREATE A PLANE FOR TRAFFIC CALMING WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. I JUST WANT TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME SOME SOME QUICK, UM, ARTIST RENDERINGS, BUT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. HERE IS A IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN LOOKING NORTHEAST FROM THE INTERSECTION OF 14 AND 6 65.UM I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE HERE IS THE SIGNIFICANT OPEN SPACE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH PLUM RUN CORRIDOR. AND HOW MUCH THAT IS IMPACTED AND THE SITE IS ORGANIZED AROUND THAT TO THE SOUTH OF THAT CORNER. WE HAVE THE PATIO HOMES OR THE HOMES THAT ARE NEAREST US ALMOST SLIDE. AND THEN ON THE NORTH AND THE EAST OF PLUMBER, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED MORE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY. YOU CAN ALSO SEE HOW WE INTERACT WITH CENTIMETERS. SORT OF VISION TO THE NORTH. THIS. THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE ENTRY FEATURE AND KIND OF THAT ENTRANCE EXPERIENCE. AS YOU WOULD ENTER OUR SITE FROM STATE ROUTE ONE OF FOUR JACKSON PIKE. UM AND WHAT YOU SEE IN THE BACKGROUND IS THE PLUM ROOM PLUM RUN STREAM CORRIDOR, AND WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS EXTEND THAT OUT TO ONE OF FOUR INTO OUR ENTRY. SO AS YOU ENTER THE SITE, YOU REALLY
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EXPERIENCING OPEN SPACE THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CORRIDOR. UM THE OTHER THING IS OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT STREET. YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN UNLOADED ROAD WHERE WE HAVE OPEN SPACE ON THE SOUTH SIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE, WE HAVE THE FRONTS OF HOMES CREATES A NICE BACKDROP TO THAT GREEN SPACE. THIS IS A SAMPLE OF OUR OF A STANDARD ENTRY FEATURE ALONG 6 65 INTO THE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY AREA. THIS IS A SAMPLE OF OUR ENTRY FEATURE INTO THE. THE EMPTY NESTER AREA, AND I THINK ONE THING THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE. IS ISN'T IT? WE'VE USED THAT OPEN SPACE AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THE OPEN SPACE IN THE FOCAL POINT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ORGANIZING ALL OF OUR UNITS AROUND THOSE HERE'S A SAMPLE OF THE CHARACTER FOR ONE OF THE MAIN NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS WERE CALLED THE CENTRAL PARK. YOU CAN SEE HOW ACCESSIBLE AND WALKING BOWL IT IS. IT HAS STREETS ON TWO OR THREE SIDES PROVIDES OPEN PLAY AREAS, AMENITIES. UM UPON VERY AESTHETIC. UH WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT MORE OF A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK? THE SLIDE IS JUST A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES THAT YOU'LL FIND IN THAT PARK. UM YOU KNOW, A SHELTER OVERLOOKING THE POND PLAYGROUND AREA PAST BENCHES. LANDSCAPING. THIS IS AN ENLARGEMENT OF THE PLUM RUN CORRIDOR AS IT SITS ON OUR SITE. AND YOU CAN SEE HIM HERE IN THE ACTUAL STREAM CORRIDOR ITSELF SURROUNDED BY EXISTING WOODLANDS. UH, FLOODPLAIN WETLANDS. UM AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH WHERE WE TRIED TO LOCATE MULTI USE PATH IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THAT FUTURE. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THE EAST WEST CONNECTION AS YOU GET TO THAT METRO PARK SO THE CHARACTER WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SET UP HERE. AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE SETTING YOU UP THAT THERE IS A METRO PARK AT THE END OF THIS PATH. WE THINK IT'S A SIMILAR CHARACTER. THERE'S A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF OUR OPEN SPACE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S SIGNIFICANT. UM SHOWS YOU THE MAIN ORGANIZING ELEMENT OF THE PLUM RUN CORRIDOR. AS WELL AS THE SMALLER NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT AND YOU ALSO SEE KIND OF THE EFFECTS OF THE BUFFERS THAT WE'VE LOCATED ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE. THIS IS JUST A HIGHER LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY SHOWS YOU THE SIDEWALKS AND ALL OF OUR STREETS. HOW THEY INTERCONNECT THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE MAIN EAST WEST CONNECTION SO YOU CAN GET ON A PATH AT 104. AND MAKE YOUR WAY THROUGH OUR SITE AND UP TO THAT NORTHEAST CORNER VERY NEAR THE METRO PARK. SOMEONE TURN IT BACK OVER. TOM. MHM. AND DOWN. WHERE'S THAT AT? OKAY GOOD AFTERNOON, MAN. I'M SURE I'M NOT AS LIKE A FAT FINGER, SIR. GOOD GOOD AFTERNOON. COMMISSIONERS TOM HART. MY ADDRESS IS 50 TO 9 CEMETERY ROAD. I'M HERE FOR THE APPLICANT. I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE BASICS AND GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED AND ACCEPTED. LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE AT COUNCIL, WE HAD COMPLETED IT , BUT IT HAD NOT BEEN ACCEPTED. SO IT IS SOME UPDATED INFORMATION. UM MY FIRST SLIDE IS JUST TO SHOW AND GIVE AN OVERVIEW. OF HOW EXTENSIVE A TRAFFIC STUDY LIKE THIS IN THIS LOCATION IS PROCEDURALLY THE STEPS THAT GOES THROUGH UM, THE PROCESS INVOLVED THE METHODOLOGY. THE SCOPE UM, OF GETTING A GETTING THE SCOPE APPROVED UP FRONT AND THEN, UM, SEVERAL REVIEWS BY BOTH OH DOT AND GROWTH. CITY ENGINEERING. AND THEN WITH THE FINDINGS BEING FINALLY ACCEPTED. BY THE PROFESSIONAL REGULATORS. UM. IT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT TO ADD TO THAT. IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC STUDIES, ONE OH, ONE MOST OR EVERY TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, THAT THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IN 25 YEARS. SHOW EVALUATE FOUR THINGS. REALLY THEY LOOK AT CURRENT TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. THEY LOOK AT FUTURE GROWTH AND TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. BOTH HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW SITE ITSELF. THEN, OF COURSE, THEY LOOK AT HOW THE NEW SITE TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT THAT CURRENT AND FUTURE GROWTH IN TRAFFIC. AND THEN FINALLY. THE FINDINGS WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THE DEVELOPER IS REQUIRED TO MAKE OR OR MAKES VOLUNTARILY TO ALLOW THE NEW TRAFFIC IMPACT INTEGRATE SAFELY INTO THE EXISTING ROAD NETWORK. SO THOSE FOUR ELEMENTS. IN THIS[00:25:04]
CASE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL CONSERVATIVE LAYERS IN THIS TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WERE BUILT IN UP FRONT. FIRST WE DID COUNTS OF TRAFFIC THAT ARE REQUIRED IN THE AREA FOR EVERY TRAFFIC STUDY. THAT'S DONE, BUT BUT WE ADDED 10% ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IN TERMS OF NUMBERS OF CARS OR TRUCKS. BUT JUST FOR A CONSERVATIVE FACTOR. WE HAD 10% OF THE COUNT.UM THIS TRAFFIC STUDY STARTED OUT WHEN THE SITE WAS 399 UNITS AND TODAY IT'S WE'RE PROPOSING 360 UNITS, BUT WE DIDN'T TAKE OUT UM, THAT DIFFERENTIAL SO THAT THE RECORD THE STUDY ITSELF. AND THE FINDINGS REQUIRED ARE BASED ON 399. UNITS AT THE SITE. ALSO WE COUNTED THE PATIO HOMES AS IF THEY WERE SINGLE FAMILY, CONVENTIONAL TRADITIONAL HOMES. UM EVEN THOUGH PATIO HOMES HAVE KIND OF A RECOGNIZED LOWER TRAFFIC IMPACT OF ABOUT 60 60% COMPARED TO SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES GENERATE ABOUT 10 TRIPS A DAY. UH FOR THE RESIDENTS WERE AS PATIO HOMES GENERATE ABOUT SIX. IN TERMS OF, UM THE FINDINGS AND AS JIM MENTIONED, UM THE FINDINGS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY OR THAT APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION OF IMPROVEMENTS ARE REQUIRED OR BEING COMMITTED BY POLTI TO ALLOW THIS THIS COMMUNITY TO BE TO MOVE FORWARD.
OF THIS LARGEST SIMPLY SHOWS THE ONE ELEMENT OF THE SCOPE OF THE STUDY. AND IT'S IT LOOKS AT ALL THE INTERSECTIONS THAT THAT WERE REQUIRED TO BE STUDIED FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY. HMM. AND. THIS SLIDE. REALLY UM, IS A KEY FINDING AND I'LL SIMPLIFY IT. THE POINT OF THIS SLIDE IS THAT TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA AT THE INTERSECTIONS YOU JUST SAW IS GOING TO GROW SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE NEXT DECADE TO 2032. THAT'S TRUE WHETHER OUR SITE IS BUILT OR NOT TRAFFICS IN A GONNA GROW . IT'S GOING TO GROW IN BOTH THE AM AND PM PEAKS. WHICH ARE THE KEY TRAFFIC TIMES THAT ARE ALWAYS EVALUATED THE MORNING RUSH IN THE AFTERNOON RUSH. THERE'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT GROWTH VERY QUICKLY. THE BLUE BAR IS 2021 EXISTING TRAFFIC THAT WAS STUDIED. THE ORANGE BAR IS TRAFFIC IN 10 YEARS WITHOUT PLUM RUN BEING BUILT WITHOUT OUR DEVELOPMENT. THE GRAY BAR IS, UM, TRAFFIC AT 2032 WITH PLUM RUN BEING DEVELOPED. IN THE GOLD IS THE DIFFERENCE. THE GOLD IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GRAY AND ORANGE. THAT SHOWS THE ACTUAL PLUM RUN TRAFFIC IF YOU FOCUS ON THE SERVICE SLIDE SO FAR, BAR GRAPHS TO MY LEFT. UM. THAT'S THE KEY 6 65 104 INTERSECTION.
AFTER TWO PEAK RUSH HOURS, AM AND PM SO YOU CAN SEE HOW, UM UM AND KEY FINDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GROWTH IN THIS AREA AND AT THESE INTERSECTIONS WITH THIS WITH THIS SITE OR WITHOUT IT THAT'S WHY THE $3 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS REALLY MATTERS. AND I JUST LIED AT THE PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU MOVE THE SLIDE FORWARD? GREAT. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I KNEW THERE WAS A DANGER THAT WHEN I GOT UP HERE, UM THIS LIKE COMPARES PEAK PLUM RUN TRAFFIC. WITH ALL TRAFFIC. UM UM IN THE AREA, 23 2. AND AGAIN THIS JUST THIS JUST SHOWS THAT THE IMPACT OF PLUM RUN VERSUS HOW TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GROW IN THE FUTURE. THE FUTURE GROWTH AGAIN AT THE KEY 6 65 104 INTERSECTION IS 24% OF BOTH PEAKS. THE BLUE THE BLUE BAR PORTION THE PLUMBER ON TRAFFIC IS ABOUT 9% ON AVERAGE, ADDING TO THAT INTERSECTION AT BOTH PEAKS. AND SO, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THIS SITE IS GOING TO EXPERIENCE THIS AREA IS GONNA EXPERIENCE TRAFFIC AND THAT 10 YEAR WINDOW NO MATTER WHAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. I'M PLEASED. THIS IS A SLIDE THAT STAFF HAD PUT THIS UP GRAPHICALLY IN JUNE HILLS IS GOING TO PASS OUT THE, UH, PAPER COPY BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, EVEN EVEN BLOWN UP LIKE THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE EASIER WITH THE PAPER. UM AGAIN. THIS GRAPHICALLY DEPICTS. THE $3 MILLION. THIS IS HOW YOU GET THE
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$3 MILLION UH UM. SIX SEPARATE FULL SITE ACCESSES AND ONE EMERGENCY ACCESS. SEVEN TURNED LATE IMPROVEMENTS ON 6, 65 AND 104. CONNECTING A FULL THREE LANE SECTION OF 104. DOWN FROM THE SALE TO METALS BOULEVARD. UM INTERSECTION DOWN TO THE 6 65 INTERSECTION. UM CONTRIBUTING TO AN O DOT IMPROVEMENT FOR A FUTURE EASTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE FROM 6 65 TO 104. WE'RE WIDENING ABOUT 53% OF 6 65 FROM THE ONE OF FOUR INTERSECTION TO THE CURVE. SO YOU KNOW, WRITING TO LEFT TURN LANES AND TWO RIGHT TURN LANES THAT ARE ENTRANCES. BUT, YEAH, THE TAPERS. IT'S ABOUT HALF THAT DISTANCE IS BEING WIDENED. UM WE'RE SETTING ASIDE RIGHT AWAY ON THE SITE OF THE FAR SOUTHEAST PER ODETTE'S REQUEST FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE CURVE SOFTENING AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE. AND THIS WASN'T IN THE STUDY WITH POULTRY ALSO IS COMMITTING TO A SPEECH STUDY FOR THAT CURVE AREA. BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT LOWERING SPEED THERE AND CREATING BETTER SIGNAGE. WOULD WOULD REALLY HELP THE, UH, HELP EVERYBODY AT THAT AT THAT CURVE, WHETHER IT'S RECONFIGURED OR NOT. UM WE? WE BELIEVE THE BIGGEST IMPACTS OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS. THE WHOLE $3 MILLION RELATE TO THE 6 65 104 INTERSECTION IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE BLACK SURROUNDING THAT INTERSECTION AND ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. WE OUGHT TO GET IMPROVEMENTS TO HANDLE THE FUTURE GROWTH IN THE AREA. THAT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE 9% OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THAT INTERSECTION. IT'S AT THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IS ON THE PLUS SIDE. FOR THAT FOR THAT INTERSECTION. NOW OPEN. ULTIMATELY WE DON'T GENERATE PERMANENT TRUCK TRAFFIC . WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF A LOT ABOUT TRUCK TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.ULTIMATELY THE SOLUTION OF THAT IS REGIONAL. IT'S DEALING WITH TRUCK TRAFFIC AND REGIONAL DISTRIBUTION THAT COMES UP FROM THE SOUTH AND GOES TO THE WEST AND NORTH. BUT WHAT? WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE THROUGH LANES AND THE TURN LANES TO ACCOMMODATE LOCAL FOLKS DEALING WITH WITH THAT INCREASED FLOWING TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT THAT'S WHAT THE STUDY FOUND IN THE REQUIREMENTS DICTATE. WE TRY THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN A NARRATIVE OF THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. THIS GIVES YOU IN WRITING OUR COMMITMENTS. WHAT? THE $3 MILLION AS UP TO AND. YOU KNOW THE PLAN TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC AS COMMITTED IN THE SONY IN AND ON THE RECORD HERE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS JUST SHOWS YOU THE O DOT REQUEST FOR THE POSSIBLE, UM, SOFTENING OF THE CURVE.
O'DOWD WOULD EVALUATE THAT WHETHER THEY WOULD WHETHER IT'S SAFER BECAUSE IT'S GREATER VISIBILITY, WHETHER IT WHETHER THEY WOULD DO OTHER THINGS WITH THIS, THAT THAT'S UP TO THEM.
THEY DID ASK US TO SET THIS ASIDE AND WE AND WE, PULTE AGREED. THIS DOES INCLUDE A 20 FT BUFFER BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE LOTS AND WHERE THE RIGHT AWAY WITH WHERE THE ROAD WOULD BE. SO THAT YOU KNOW IF THE CURVE IF THE SOFTENING GOES TO GO IN, THE RESIDENTS WOULD WOULD HAVE PROTECTION. UM. WITH THAT. I JUST WANT TO SIMPLY SUMMARIZE OUR CASE. AND OF COURSE, OUR TEAM WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS IS THE CHAIR DIRECTS. UM YOU'VE JUST SEEN POLTI HAS A PLAN. TO ADDRESS ITS OWN TRAFFIC. THAT IT CREATES AND THEN ALSO MAKE KEY IMPROVEMENTS PROBABLY GO BEYOND MANAGING ITS OWN TRAFFIC AND PROBABLY BENEFIT THE AREA IN GENERAL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FUTURE GROWTH. THAT'S DUE TO OCCUR IN THIS AREA. THE SITE PLAN PRESERVES SIGNIFICANT NATURAL AREA, THE PLUM RUN RAVINE. IT MAKES THE MULTI USE PATH CONNECTIONS TO THE CITY'S REGIONAL TRAIL SYSTEM. THE PLUMBER RUN PLAN MEETS THE CITY'S FUTURE LAND USE PLANNING FOR THE SITE IN THE AREA WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. AND AT THE DENSITY THAT IS IN LINE WITH OTHER APPROVALS. IT'S LOWER THAN THE DENSITY OF THE EXISTING COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH. THAT'S THREE UNITS OF THE ACRE. IT'S LOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS ZONING APPROVAL ON THE SITE YEARS AGO.
IT FITS WITH THE RECENT APPROVALS OF STAFF CITED FARMSTEAD PINNACLE KOREAN TRAIL VIEW IT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO PEOPLE. MOST NOTABLY, PROBABLY FOLKS TO THE NORTH ARE GOING TO GIVE IT A WHOLE BUNCH OF OPEN SPACE THEY CAN USE ALONG ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC. AND THEN, UM, NASH, BOTH NATURAL OPEN SPACE AND PROGRAM PARKS. UM. IN THE END, IT IS GERMAN OUTLINED. IT DOES PROVIDE. A MIX OF HOUSING AND THAT'S SORELY NEEDED. IT'S GROSS CITY CREATES MORE JOBS AND
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AS AS A REGION CREATES JOBS. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE'LL DO WITH THE CHAIR SAYS THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING. I JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THIS IS, UM WE'RE ADDRESSING THE APPLICATION FOR REZONING RIGHT NOW. UM. FOR A PLUM RUN AND, UM, ANY QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. CONCERNING THE TRAFFIC INTERSECTION THAT ONE OF FOUR AND 6 65. ORIGINALLY THAT INTERSECTION WAS UPGRADED WITH A LEFT TURN LANES, YOU KNOW, GOING NORTH ON ONE AND FOUR SOUTH AND 104. WHICH REALLY HELPED A LOT AND THEN I CAN SEE THE UPGRADE.IF YOU'RE COMING FROM 71 OVER TOWARD ONE OF FOUR COTON TURN LANE. BUT. KNOWING THAT INTERSECTION RATHER WELL LIVING. 1000 FT FROM IT ROUGHLY I SEE A REAL NEED TO HAVE A COTON TURN LANE. IF YOU'RE COMING ACROSS 6 65 HEADED WEST. AND, UH, WHAT CURRENTLY HAPPENS AND IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE ALL WE NEED IS ONE TRUCK SITTING AT THAT TRAFFIC LIKE TRYING TO TURN SOUTHBOUND ON 104. AND THEN NOBODY GETS THROUGH. AND SLOWLY BUT SURELY PEAK HOURS. YOU KNOW, FOUR OR 56 O'CLOCK? THE TRAFFIC AND TRUCKS WILL START BACKING UP ALL THE WAY. EAST ON 6 65. WHO'S THE 90 , AND I'VE EVEN SEEN IT GO NORTH, ANOTHER HALF MILE OR SO.
SO WE'RE TALKING. A MILE MILE AND A HALF BACK UP AT TIMES ONLY BECAUSE ONE TRUCK CAN'T TURN SOUTH. AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT WITH YOUR UPGRADES. THE WIND THREE LANES WIDE AT YOUR ENTRANCE. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT AN EAST WEST TRAFFIC AND ETERNAL IN IN I JUST SEE IT AS BEING REALLY IMPORTANT. TO CARRY THAT ONTO THE INTERSECTION AND CREATE A SOUTHBOUND ETERNALLY ON THAT SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION. AND THAT'S JUST AS IT IS CURRENTLY. BUT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND PICKAWAY COUNTY SOUTH UM YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS 10 MILLION SQUARE FOOT PLUS OF WAREHOUSING. THAT ISN'T. PART OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT IMPACTS YOUR DEVELOPMENT BY PEOPLE TRYING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF HERE. ENTRANCE IN THE CITY OF AREA C SO I JUST SEE THAT AS A. WHILE THEY'RE DOWN THERE WORKING ON THAT THAT WE MIGHT REALLY ACCOUNT FOR.
BASICALLY WE'RE COUNTING FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PICKAWAY COUNTY. THAT TRAFFIC THAT COULD BE COMING FROM US 23 USING THIS CORRIDOR TO GET SOUTH ON ONE OF FOUR AND WITH YOUR DESIGN, WE'RE ACCOMMODATING IT. ANYBODY COMING FROM 71 OVER RETURN LINE. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW. IT'S OLD I AND ENGINEERING YOU KNOW ALL THOSE OTHER CONCERNS THAT WILL MAKE THIS REAL CALL ON THIS DECISION BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE GREAT CITIES ANNEXING THIS INTERSECTION. SO IT'S STILL STAYS AS A STATE RALPH INTERSECTION. YEAH JUST BRIEFLY . IT WAS THAT WAS THAT TURNING MOVEMENT WAS NOT ONE OF THE FINDINGS. THINK THE YOU KNOW THE O DOT CONTRIBUTION WE'RE MAKING TOO. UM EASTBOUND 66 65 TO 1 OF FOUR SELF PROBABLY HELP. YOU KNOW THAT FLOW, BUT IT IS LIKE YOU SAID, IT ISN'T WHAT I'D INTERSECTION. WE HAVE FOUND OVER THE YEARS THAT WHEN. A PRIVATE DEVELOPER SPENDS $3 MILLION IT DOES DRAW SOME ATTENTION. AND SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER AND WITH CITY ENGINEERING. WE COULD WE COULD ADVOCATE WE CERTAINLY ARE. WE CERTAINLY ARE DOING OUR SHARE WITH WHAT ARE MAINLY REGIONAL ISSUES AND OLD DOT ROAD, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN NOT OR PUSH ON THE DOOR WITH BECAUSE OF THE POINTS WERE MADE. YEAH AND YOU'VE JUST GOT TO GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION. FOUR OR FIVE O'CLOCK ONCE. YOU'VE WATCHED THAT ONE TRUCK THAT CAN ACCELERATE QUICK ENOUGH TO MAKE THE GAP TO TURN SOUTH AND TRAFFIC AND HE JUST HAS TO SIT THERE. ARE THERE ARE SOME TABLES IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY? UM TABLES ONE AND TWO TABLES, 12 AND 13 THAT SHOW. WHAT WE ARE DOING DOES IMPROVE SOME OF THE TIMING OF THOSE OF THOSE TURNING MOVEMENTS. UM, BUT I THINK THAT ONE IS IT'S A POINT WELL MADE. YES SIR. ONE OTHER QUESTION AND I KNOW GROWING RESENTMENT PART,
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BUT IF YOU'RE IN SUB AREA SEE THE CONDOS. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTI USE PASS. HOW DO YOU GET OUT OF SUB AREA? C TO GET ONTO THE PAST THAT ARE THROUGH THE REST OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. THERE IS NO BRIDGE OR PATH OVER TOP OF PLUNDER. I'M OBVIOUSLY DUE TO THE WIDE FLOODPLAIN RIGHT AT THAT POINT. IF SOMEONE'S IN SUB AREAS CEDED, THEY HAVE TO COME OUT AND GO. NO MORE SO LONG, ONE OF FOUR OR DROP SOUTH AND GO ACROSS 6 65 AND USE THE TWO STATE ROUTE BRIDGES TO GET OUT OF SOME AREAS . SEE THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE. IF YOU WANT TO STAY ON A PAVED PATH. UM BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY THAT WE'VE WE'VE HAD, AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S THERE WITH WETLANDS AND ALL THE OTHER FLOODPLAIN. UM TOPOGRAPHY THAT'S IN THOSE AREAS. UM. WE THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR PRIMITIVE TYPE PATH TO BE DEVELOPED THROUGH THEIR HOWEVER HARD PAVED PATH THROUGH THERE WOULD BE VERY IMPACTFUL. AS YOU STATED, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE THE USE OF THE PRETTY LARGE BRIDGE. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S BASICALLY HOW WE'RE HANDLING.THAT IS PROBABLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOME PRIMITIVE TYPE PATHS. SOMETHING YOU MIGHT SEE IN A METRO PART. NOT PAVED. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LOOKING FOR BICYCLE. LISTER, SOMEBODY PARA MOBILITY OR SOMETHING THAT WANTED TO RIDE ON PAVEMENT OUT OF SILVERIA SEETHING ULTIMATELY GET METRO PARKS. WE'RE DOING 10, I THINK AND I THINK IT'S STAFFS INTENTION THAT THAT THE AREAS PUBLICLY DEDICATED THAT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD END UP BEING OWNED PUBLICLY. SO IN TERMS OF HOW IT COULD BE PROGRAMMED IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY. TYPICALLY. PUBLIC BODY PERMITTING ACROSS STREAMS IS MORE SIMPLE THAN THAN UNDEVELOPED. THANK YOU. MR ROCK. I JUST WANT TO TRY AND FOLLOW THEM ON YOUR FIRST POINT. I THINK STAFF I WAS A CONVERSATION WHEN YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OH, DOT IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY TO COMMENT. THE TRUCK TRAFFIC WE ALL UNDERSTAND THEIR DEVELOPMENT . THESE DEVELOPMENTS NOT GENERATING TRUCK TRAFFIC. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION. CONFUSION ON PLEASE UNDERSTAND THERE IS CONFUSION BETWEEN THE DISTRICT THREE AND SIX BECAUSE OF DIVINE LINE IS THE COUNTY LINE, SO THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME MISS CONVERSATIONS AND MISSED OPPORTUNITIES. WHEN THAT WALL WENT UP 12 MILLION SQUARE FOOT FACILITY WAS BEING DEVELOPED OR 12 MILLION SQUARE FOOT INVENTORY IS BEING DEVELOPED, SO STAFF WILL COMMIT TO TALK TO A DOUBT ABOUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT BY NO MEANS THE TIE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. YES. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE TRAIL COULD STAFF ADVANCED THIS TO THE MAP THAT HAS THE TRAILS ON IT OR IS THAT IN THE NEXT I DON'T THAT WOULD BE WITH THE FAMILY PLAYING BECAUSE IT RELATES TO TRAIL PLACING. LEAVE THAT AND COME BACK. QUESTIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS, SO I WANT TO FIRST OFF, RECOGNIZED THAT YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD IN THIS PLAN. THE DRAWINGS. THE RENDERINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE OF THE GREEN SPACES AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC STUDY HAVE REALLY HELPED ME VISUALIZE BETTER. UM, WHAT THE PLAN IS HERE AND GET MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. IT WAS NOTED IN THE REZONING DOCUMENT THAT YOU'VE COMMITTED TO 7% OF SIDE LOAD, SIDE LOADED GARAGES, AND THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT FINDING, TOO. AND ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS BY ALMOST 10. SO THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF BOTH THE LOT SIZES AND THE TRAFFIC. AND I'M JUST THRILLED THAT WE'RE WILLING TO SET ASIDE THAT SOUTHEAST CURVE SO THAT IF SOMEBODY CAN COME ALONG AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THE TRAFFIC. UM, THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS AVAILABLE TO US HERE. UM. I STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE ACCESS. ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO STATE ROUTE 104. I THINK THAT WAS WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS SO CLOSE TOGETHER. AND I STILL SEE IT AS A SAFETY HAZARD TO HAVE THIS INTERSECTION IS LOCATED CLOSE TOGETHER. I KNOW THAT IT ALSO WOULD DUMP A LOT OF TRAFFIC INTO THIS IOTA MEADOWS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A CHALLENGE FOR THAT. DEVELOPMENT ALSO NOTE THAT THERE ARE THERE ISN'T CUT THROUGH ALREADY TO SAY, OH, TOMATOES. IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH THAT ISSUE NONETHELESS. CLOSING OFF THAT ONE OF FOUR
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INTERSECTION ALSO WOULD REDUCE THE APPEAL TO USE THIS AS AN EAST WEST BYPASS TO 6 65 WHEN WE'VE GOT A LINE UP OF AMAZON DELIVERY VANS PARKED DONE, 6 65. BECAUSE IT WOULD ADD ONE MORE.ONE MORE SHOT THROUGH THERE. A LOT OF NICE AMENITY IMPROVEMENTS TO CENTRAL PARK POND, THE PLAYGROUND. ALL OF THOSE THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF. SO VARIOUS C STILL HAS SOME KIND OF LONGISH STRAIGHT ROADS. I DON'T SEE A WAY AROUND THAT, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN MY BOOK. THEY'RE NOT THE MOST APPEALING. UM SO HAVING SAID THAT THE FINAL COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE DUMPING 360 MORE. RESIDENTS IN A PART OF OUR CITY THAT HAS DOESN'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DEAL WITH IT. I KNOW IT'S NOT LT'S ISSUE THAT WE HAVE ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT GOING ON OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL, BUT WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DEALING WITH IT AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL HOMES IN THIS AREA.
AND I DON'T FIND. THAT ANYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT ANY SIGNIFICANT MOVE TO RESOLVING SOME OF THESE ISSUES. HOW DO WE GET THIS? 12 MILLION SQUARE FEET, TRUCK TRAFFIC REROUTED ELSEWHERE. HOW DO WE UM HOW DO WE HANDLE ALL OF THIS TRAFFIC AS IT PROCEEDS NORTH ON ONE OH, FOUR OR WEST ON 6 65. SO, UM. SO I'M REALLY STUCK ON. I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE BUILDING. A SINGLE FAMILY OR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. UNTIL WE KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO RESOLVE THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION. FOR ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE REZONING. YES APPROACH AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. MY NAME IS ERIC HOLDER. 6 75 MORNING GROWTH FRONT ROAD. UM ST YOU GUYS PRODUCT BECAUSE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT US AS THE RESIDENTS TO THE AREA AGREE ON, UM I FEEL LIKE NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE THIS CAME UP. BACK IN DECEMBER, WHEREVER THAT LAST ONE WAS NONE OF CHANGES THAT I WOULD THINK IT WOULD CHANGE ANYBODY'S MIND VOTE FROM THE LAST TIME. UM ISSUE. I HAVE A HOME RUN. IT IS. THAT FLOODING AREAS SO DANGEROUS AND ALL I SEE IS TRASH. AND YEAH. YOUNG BOYS CHASING A FROG AND FALLING IN THAT WATER. LAY IT FLOODS. MAN IS DANGEROUS. THERE'S NO LET'S GET A PATH OVER IT. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WAY FROM IT. UM SO TO SAY OTHERS 40 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE. MOST OF THAT'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE AT THE APPRECIATE FOR YOU BECAUSE WE WHEN YOU STAY FROM THREE TO BE MORE GREEN SPACE OVER HERE, LIKE THAT THAT'S MY BIGGEST POINT ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THE TRAFFIC. UM THE WHOLE STUDY WAS BASED OFF ONE DAY. SO LIKE THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH YOU CAN DO AND WHETHER OR NOT OH GOD APPROVED OR WHOEVER. EVERYBODY'S DROPPING THE BALL IN THAT YOU CAN'T JUST WATCHED FOR A COUPLE HOURS IN ONE DAY AND THINK. OH, THIS IS SCIENCE. THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. YOU NEED MORE SAMPLES. YOU NEED MORE DATA. AND EITHER WAY, IT'S STILL SAYS IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. EVEN IF IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE ALREADY AT 11. I UNDERSTAND FROM 1 TO 10 TRAFFIC SALARY ALONE A LITTLE BIT. IT'S STILL BAD. SO, UM I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE OTHER PROBLEMS. WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE DEVELOPERS ISSUE OR NOT, IT'S THE COMMUNITIES ISSUE. AND WE NEEDED TO GET THOSE THINGS FIGURED OUT BEFORE. THE TIMING IS JUST NOT RIGHT FOR DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOR ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? YES. MY NAME IS JOHN RILEY. I LIVE AT 7 90 LONDON GROWTH COURT ROAD. UM I'M THE LITTLE RECTANGLE THERE INSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 6 65. MY WIFE SPOKE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MEETING IN ON DECEMBER.THAT WAS AND SHES . I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. I'M NOT A PUBLIC SPEAKER. UM I'VE TALKED TO DASH BEFORE I JUST WANTED REAL QUICK DASH HAS BEEN, UM OVER A YEAR AGO. X ABSOLUTELY
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AMAZING TO TALK TO YOU. JUST AS FRIENDLY AS COULD BE GAVE ME MORE INFORMATION THAN I COULD EVER ASK FOR. KIM SPENT CLOSE TO AN HOUR AND A HALF ON THE PHONE WITH ME. UM ONE DAY. JUST ASTOUNDING. UM, JUST ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. BOTH OF YOU. SO I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANY OF THE REST OF YOU. BUT, JIM, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE CLOSE. SO UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC BACKING UP, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW TIMES SINCE WE'VE LIVED THERE A LITTLE OVER A YEAR WHERE OKAY. I MEAN, IF WE PULL OUT WE'RE MOVING INCH BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC BACKED UP BOTH DIRECTIONS, SO IT'S PRETTY BAD. SO THAT'S SOUTHBOUND TURN LANE AT 104 THAT I MEAN, YOU'RE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY ON POINT WITH THAT. IT'S HORRIBLE. UM JIM HILLS WAS NOT KIND ENOUGH TO REACH OUT TO ME. I HAD WRITTEN A VERY LONG LETTER. I DON'T I HOPE ALL OF YOU GOT TO READ IT. THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME POINTS IN IT. THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT PUT THE TIME OR THE 15 MINUTES INTO READING. THIS GYM DID REACH OUT TO ME AFTER HE RECEIVED THIS , SO I APPRECIATE HIM REACHING OUT TO ME BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET A LETTER FROM THEM ABOUT THE INFORMATION SESSION. AND THEY JUST WOULD HAVE BEEN. I KNOW YOU GUYS DO THAT AS A COURTESY. I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A COURTESY TO THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU DO THAT, UM, JUST THERE'S TOO LITTLE HOUSES THAT ARE I REALLY HAVE NO PHYSICAL BARRIER. WE WERE ONE OF THOSE HOUSES AND WE DIDN'T GET INVITED TO THAT SESSION, SO I KNOW IT WAS A COURTESY. NOTHING PERSONAL. JUST I KIND OF WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE.TO GET THAT SO. FROM DECEMBER 10TH. THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS WENT FROM 366 UNITS TO 360 UNITS. THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT TIME, SO I'M NOT SURE THE SIX UNITS IT'S A IT'S A MINUTE CHANGE. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH MY POINTS THAT I HAD. I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT QUICKLY. AND MR SHOCKEY. HE'S ON THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT I DO WANT TO NOTE SOMETHING ON JUNE 7TH OF 2021. HE VOTED YES ON THE PRELIMINARY PROPOSAL, BUT HAD A FEW STIPULATIONS WITH ONE OF THEM BEING THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF A MEANDERING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ROADWAYS MORE OF A MEANDERING ROADWAY. THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER THE LAYOUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN REMAINS VIRTUALLY UNCHANGED, AND I DON'T HAVE A NICE SLIDE SHOW, BUT FROM THAT MEETING TO WHAT WE SEE NOW, IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO GO BACK IN TIME, YOU PROBABLY WON'T. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU WOULD SEE THAT IT REALLY THERE'S NO NEW, MEANDERING ROADWAYS.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH UNCHANGED. AND I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE THAT ONE OF THE ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SAID ON JUNE 7TH, MR BARRY SAID. MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THIS QUOTED MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THIS IS BASICALLY YOU'RE IN THE RIVER BASIN OF THE SIROTA RIVER. MY VIEW OF THIS AREA AREA EVER SINCE I STARTED ON COUNCIL WAS TO BECOME ALL METRO PARK. I WAS HOPING THAT THE NEXT LEVY RENEWAL WITH THE METRO PARKS THEY WOULD EVENTUALLY BUY THIS AREA EXPAND THE METRO PARKS. YOU BUILD A GREAT PRODUCT, AND HE WAS INFERRING TO POLTI. AND THEN HE SAID, JUST NOT HERE. THIS AREA WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL AND ITS CURRENT STATE. HOPEFULLY AS A METRO PARK. MY VISION OF THIS AREA IS GREEN AND OPEN AND WILDERNESS. UM AND ERIC IS RIGHT THAT THE RIVER. I MEAN, WE SEE IT FLOOD IN THAT FIELD. BEHIND US. IT'S UM. IT'S NOT A LITTLE STREAM, RIGHT? MAYBE MAYBE WE'LL PROBABLY RIGHT NOW. IT'S PROBABLY NOT A LITTLE STREAM.
SOMETIMES IT IS A LITTLE STREAM. UM, BUT THEN OTHER TIMES IT'S UH, IT'S WIDE. IT'S A IT'S A VERY WIDE RIVER. UM THE SO THEY DID THEIR TRAFFIC STUDYING. AND THE CITY APPROVED. WHAT THEIR STUDY WAS, AND THAT'S ALL FINE. I GET IT THAT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WAY OF STUDYING THINGS AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WAY OF COMING TO AN AGREEMENT AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE? UM BUT EVEN WITH THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE MAKING, THEY'RE STILL ADDING ROUGHLY 10% MORE TRAFFIC.
UM. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DON'T KNOW HOW TO WEAR THIS CORRECTLY, BUT THEY'RE ADDING ABOUT 10% MORE TRAFFIC ISSUES, AND THEY HAD THAT ON THEIR SLIDE. IT WAS DIFFERENT ONES HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, SO THEY'RE ADDING THAT TO THE AREA AND. OH, WE'RE CONSTANTLY PICKING UP CAR PARTS IN OUR FRONT YARD TIRES, ENTIRE TRUCK TIRES, AND THAT'S NOT NORMAL. FOR MOST PEOPLE. I DO KNOW THAT WE LIVE ON A STATE ROUTE, SO MAYBE WE CAN EXPECT SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. DEAD DEER IN OUR FRONT YARD. MY WIFE JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER WE MOVED IN, SHE'S JUST TRYING TO TURN INTO OUR DRIVEWAY. I WAS WALKING OUT TO GET THE MAIL. AND I WATCHED THE CAR THAT PLOWED
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INTO THE BACK OF HER JUST NOT EVEN PAYING ATTENTION. SO UM, WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR ABOUT A YEAR, AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD A SUBSTANTIAL CAR ACCIDENT WHEN WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TURN INTO HER OWN DRIVEWAY. UM AND SO. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD COST. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S A NORMAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PUT INTO ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. UM BUT. $3 MILLION FOR SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL INTERSECTION AND IN SUBSTANTIAL AREA SEEMS MINIMAL TO ME. UM POLTI HAD A REVENUE LAST YEAR OF ROUGHLY 13.4 BILLION. DOLLARS. AND THEN THEY HAVE. AFTER TAX PROFIT OF 13.9% SO IF YOU DO THOSE TWO NUMBERS, I DIDN'T DO IT WHILE I WAS SITTING. I WAS TRYING TO JUST FIGURE THINGS OUT. UM THEY HAVE A LOT OF INCOME. AND, UH, LAST YEAR, THEY INCREASED THEIR PROFITS BY 38% YEAR OVER YEAR. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT $3 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHOULD SPEND 10. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHOULD SPEND SIX. I HAVE NO IDEA. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE IS A PROFIT AS A COMPANY. IT SEEMS MINIMAL FOR SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL AREA FOR SO MANY HOMES. SO I DON'T KNOW THE AVERAGE SELLING PRICE BUT 360 TIMES. UM THAT'S $400,000. AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE 13.9% BECAUSE THEY'RE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES SO YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT THESE THINGS UP AND THEN SEE WHAT $3 MILLION WAS TO THAT WHOLE PROJECT, WHICH I'M SURE SOME OF IT WAS INCLUDED, BUT I HAVE I'M SPEAKING IN PLACES THAT I DON'T KNOW. SO, UM, TRAFFIC IT'S TERRIBLE. WE DO LOVE THE AREA. WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. MOST PEOPLE, JIM, IT SEEMS LIKE MOST PEOPLE HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE AREA, SO I KNOW THAT DEVELOPMENTS NEED TO HAPPEN. NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENTS. UM, I JUST THINK THIS IS THE WRONG SPOT FOR IT.AND THE QUESTION FOR YOU WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR PROPERTY? YEAH DID YOU THINK THAT IT WAS ONE SINGLE FAMILY? WHAT DID YOU THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT PROPERTY ALL AROUND YOU? WELL, SO I GREW UP DOWN BY CIRCLE LESS ON 6 65, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH CIRCULATES PARTS. IT'S TRAFFIC IS A LOT CALMER DOWN THERE. UM IF YOU TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE, THEY SAY IN THE LAST 4 TO 5 YEARS, TRAFFIC HAS JUST BECOME ATROCIOUS. UH UM. WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE SIGNAL SINGLE FAMILY THAT IT'S WAS LIKELY TO BE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AT SOME POINT. SO WE KNEW THAT GOING INTO PURCHASING IT. WE ARE REALTOR MADE US VERY CLEAR. WE DID NOT KNOW HOW BAD THE TRAFFIC WAS GOING TO BE. WE CAME AND WE THROUGH THE HOUSE AND WE WENT INSIDE AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, TRAFFIC. YOU CAN HARDLY HEAR IT.
IF YOU'RE IN THE KITCHEN, IT'S NOT TOO BAD IN THE MASTER BEDROOM. IT'S NOT BAD. UM BUT NOW THAT WE'VE LIVED THERE, AND MY WIFE HAS GOTTEN INTO AN ACT, I MEAN WELL, SHE WAS SHE WASN'T FAULT. SHE WAS TURNING. SHE HAD HER BLINKER ON. JUST GET REAR ENDED BY SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION. UM IT CHANGES YOUR MIND THAT MAYBE THIS AREA NEEDS SOME BETTER. ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS DOES THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN MY ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. IT DOES. IT DOES, BUT IT MANY TIMES FOLKS HAVE COME BEFORE US AND. THE RULERS WEREN'T CLEAR TO HIM. AND I FELT BAD FOR THEM THAT THE REALTORS WEREN'T CLEAR WHAT THAT FIELD ACROSS THE STREET WAS GOING TO BE. I'M GLAD THAT YOU KNEW IT WAS ONLY SINGLE FEMALE WAS ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING. SHE MADE US. I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE SIGNED SOMETHING SAYING THAT WE KNEW, BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG WITH THAT.
BUT, YEAH, SHE MADE US VERY CLEAR. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? YOU CAN, AND I'LL JUST MAKE A NOTE THAT ALL THE FURTHER UM I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS AT THE BEGINNING, BUT , UM, COMMENTS WILL BE THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. IT'S REALLY GOOD. ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION IS EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES REALLY WANTED TO BRING CLEAN ABOUT IS THAT WHEN THAT LONG LINE OF UH, CARS AT THE STOCK SIGN EVERYTHING. I MEAN, IF ANY WILL SELL MEDICAL ISSUES. THREE DIFFERENT TIMES EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TO GET TO US AND THAT'S I JUST WANT TO BRING. I AM SURE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. NOBODY WANTS THIS TO HAPPEN WITHOUT SOME MEASURES BEING TAKEN BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB . I JUST I DON'T THINK ENOUGH STRESS HAS BEEN PUT ON THE HELPING OUT THE EMERGENCY. RESPONSE CHANGE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS, UM WITH
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THAT. I THINK WE'RE READY FOR EMOTION. HERE. I MAKE THE MOTION. IT'S UM, WE APPROVE.REASONING. APPLICATION TO COMMUNITIES THAT ONE FROM SF ONE TWO PDR. JUST A QUICK NOTE.
THAT'S A IT'S A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. SORRY RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL TO OUR CITY COUNCIL. SECOND. FROM COM. CHAIR WASTER? YES. MR TITUS? YES. MR ROCK? YES. MR FREE. NO.
HEY. ITEM NUMBER THREE. COMMUNITIES THAT PLUM RUN DEVELOPMENT PLAN. JIM HILL'S
[3. APPLICATION: Communities at Plum Run – Development Plan]
PULTE HOMES OF OHIO. 4 75 MET REPLACED SOUTH DUBLIN, OHIO. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NEW RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION CAN CONTINUE 266. SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND 94 CONDOMINIUMS. ON 144.27 ACRES AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LONDON REPORT ROAD AND JACKSON PIKE. DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR THE SITE IN 2004, WHICH CONTAINED 255 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AND 121 CONDOMINIUMS. THIS PLAN WAS NEVER BUILT IN A SENSE EXPIRED. THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL INTO 2021. AND A REZONING APPLICATION WILL OFFER THE PROS DEVELOPMENT IS UNDER CONCURRENT REVIEW. THE DEVELOPMENT CANNOT BE APPROVED UNTIL THE ZONING IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AT THE NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING. THE SITE IS PROPOSED TO HAVE 266. SINGLE FAMILY UNITS IN TUCSON AREAS AND 94 CONDOS. IN ANOTHER SUB AREA, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE PLAN APPROVED FOR THE SITE IN 2004. SOME AREA A COMPRISED OF THE 28 LOTS TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE STREAM CORRIDOR IS PROPOSED TO HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT ALONG THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE SITE CONNECTING TO JACKSON PIKE. AREA B IS COMPRISED OF THE REMAINING 238 SINGLE FAMILY LIVES. TWO CONNECTIONS TO LENNY GROUP COURT ROAD ARE PROPOSED WITH ONE TO THE SOUTH AND ONE TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY. A CONNECTION IS ALSO PROPOSED TO STOP IT DECIDES NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE PROVIDING CONNECTION TO THE SIDE OR METAL SUBDIVISION. ALL SINGLE FAMILY LOTS WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 70 FT IN WIDTH. WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SOCIETAL MEDAL SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH, AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAYING FOR THE SITE. THEIR DEVELOPMENT WILL ALSO INCORPORATE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES INTO THE STREET NETWORK OF THE SINGLE FAMILY SOME AREAS TO BREAK UP BLOCK LENGTHS AND PROMOTED VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN. SAFE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. AREA. C IS LOCATED SOUTH OF THE STREAM QUARTER AND SHOW THEM TO ACCESS POINTS CONNECTING TO LONDON GROWTH COURT ROAD. SOME VERY SEE WILL CONTAIN PATIO STYLE CONDOMINIUM HOMES, WHICH ARE SMALLER IN SIZE AND SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. AND LOTS OF PROPOSED TO BE 52 BETWEEN 52 55 FT INWARDS. STAFF HAS PROPOSED SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED CONDOMINIUM LOT SIZES AS THEY ARE IN LINE WITH TYPICAL CONDOMINIUM OUTSIDE IS APPROVED IN OTHER RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, SUCH AS COURTYARDS OF PULA AND THE CONSCIENCE OF BROWN'S FARM. 19.66 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IS REQUIRED TO BE DEDICATED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT. A TOTAL OF 48.45 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IS PROVIDED. WHICH IS MORE THAN WAS INCLUDED IN BOTH THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN FOR THE SITE IN 2004. OF THE PROVIDED OPEN SPACE 21.31 ACRES MEETS CODE REQUIREMENTS. FOR OPEN SPACE AND OTHER AREAS SUCH AS FLOODPLAIN THAT PER CODE DO NOT COUNT BUT WILL REMAIN AS OPEN SPACE ACCOUNTS FOR ANOTHER 27 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE. IN ADDITION TO PRESERVING THE ACREAGE AROUND THE PLUM RUN STREAM QUARTER FOR PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING MEASURES TO ACTIVATE THE STREAM CORRIDOR TO SERVE AS AN AMENITY TO TRAIL EXTENSIONS AND OVERLOOKS. THE PLAN INCLUDES EIGHT FT WIDE, MULTI USE PAST THROUGHOUT THE SITE TO PROVIDE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. PROVIDING RESIDENTS WITH AN ADDITIONAL RECREATIONAL AMENITY. THE PROPOSED PLAN INCLUDES MORE TRAILS AND WERE INCLUDED WITH THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE. INCLUDING THE TRAIL ON THE SITES. NORTHEASTERN FRONTAGE ALONG LINIGER REPORT ROAD, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR A FUTURE CONNECTION TO THE SILO GROWTH, METRO PARK. ADDITIONALLY A MULTI USE PATH WILL ALSO BE INSTALLED ON THE SIDES. JACKSON PIKE FRONTAGE, WHICH PROVIDE FUTURE CONNECTIVITY TO THE CITY'S GROWING TRAIL NETWORK. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETS OUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS[01:05:02]
OUTLINED IN THE ZONING TEXT FOR THE SITE, INCLUDING STREET TREES ALONG BOTH SIDES OF ALL ROADWAYS , SUPPLEMENTAL LANDSCAPING AND PLANTINGS IN RESERVE AREAS AND AROUND THE PROPOSED RETENTION BASINS. BROTHER ZONING TEXT 20 FT. NO DISTURB ZONE IS INCORPORATED ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO THE SILO METAL SUBDIVISION. PLAN SHOWS OF THE EXISTING TREES ARE TO REMAIN, BUT THE AUGMENTED AS NECESSARY TO CREATE A CONSISTENT TREE ROW ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. MOUNTING WILL BE INSTALLED ON THE SITES OF LONDON GROWTH COURT. FRONTAGE THE PROPOSED MOUNTING BAVARIAN HEIGHT BETWEEN 4 TO 6 FT AND SLOPE TO CREATE A ROLLING NATURAL APPEARANCE SIMILAR TO THE MOUNTING INCORPORATED IN THE FARMSTEAD SUBDIVISION NORTH ON JACKSON PIKE. IN ADDITION TO THE PROPOSED MOUNTING, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSED TO INSTALL TREES. TO SCREEN THE HOMES FROM VIEW ALONG LONDON GROUP FORT ROAD. BUILDING. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETS ALL CRITERIA OUTLINED FOR PT DISTRICTS AND RESULT IN A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT IN LAND WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. AND IS IN LINE WITH BOTH GROUPS. CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND FUTURE LAND USE DESTINATION FOR THE SITE. AFTER REVIEWING CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKER RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ESTIMATED WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU. UM, I'M GUESSING YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM BEGINNING TO END OVER. AGAIN SO, UM, WITH THAT, I THINK WE'VE COVERED EVERYTHING THAT WE WANTED TO COVER. FOR BOTH THE REZONING AND THE FDP. SO IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. VERY GOOD . THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OF PLANNING CONDITION. I GUESS MAYBE YOU'RE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO ADDRESS THIS. THE PROPERTY AT 7 91 GROUP PORTRAIT MODE. IS THAT ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME? THAT SOME OF YOUR CONDOS ARE GOING TO BACK UP TO HIS WEST SIDE. I LOOKED AT THE DRAINAGE AND IT LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD SOME YARD DRAINS IN THE BACK. LOTS OF THOSE CONDOS ALONG THERE. TO PICK UP ANY WATERSHED THAT MIGHT BE HEADED TOWARDS PLUM RUN. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE SCREENING. BETWEEN. RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE BACKYARDS OF THESE CONDOS. I WANT MY STIPULATION OR MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE WOULD BE TO PUT ROUGHLY AS THREE OR FOUR FT MOUND. IN BETWEEN EACH OF THE CATCH BASINS. SO THAT WOULD CREATE A THREE OR FOUR FT HIGH MOUND. IN THREE LOCATIONS, BUT PRETTY MUCH GOING THE ENTIRE LENGTH. IT IS WEST PROPERTY LINE. THEN YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT. MOST SPECIES WILL SAY OF PINE TREES ALONG THAT TO SHIELD HIM. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE ONE OF THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I LOOKED IT UP WHITE SPRUCE OR SOMETHING. THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO THE WEST SIDE OF YOUR ROOM. HAVE THOSE PLANTED ON TOP OF THE MOUND. AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE MOUNTAIN, YOU KNOW AGAINST THE RESIDENTS PLANT YOUR OTHER LAVA PINES. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE THE DRESS THAT WAY. ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN WORK THAT IN I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE MHM, GOOD CONSIDERATION AND SCREENING OF YOUR NEIGHBOR THERE. BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF YOUR NEW TOUCH ZONE. 20 FT BUFFER. YOU'VE PUT ACROSS THE ALL THE NORTH BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY. SO THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN, TOO. INCREASE THAT AND THEN JUST TOUCHING ON ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD POINT THAT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP IS THAT INTERSECTION FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GET THROUGH THERE. IT WOULD BE A MUCH SAFER INTERSECTION, YOU KNOW? IF WE DID HAVE THAT THIRD LANE. APPROACHING FROM THE EAST. BECAUSE WHEN TRAFFIC'S BACKED UP THAT GETS SOMEWHERE FOR A MEDIC OR A FIRE ENGINE TO ACTUALLY A LOT OF TIMES THEY GO LEFT TO CENTER. YOU KNOW, THAT JUST GIVES MORE OPTIONS. FOR A EMERGENCY UNIT TO WORK HIS WAY.YOU KNOW TO THE EAST BECAUSE WE HAVE A FAIR BIT OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALREADY OVER THERE THAT WE SERVICE THAT WAY. HEADINGS GROVE AND SOUTH MATTERS THE BACK PART OF IT. SO A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S EUNICE. HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE PRETTY TRICKY, DICEY INTERSECTION THERE. AND I THINK THAT THIRD LANE TURNS OUT IT JUST HAD ANOTHER BUT FOR SAFETY FOR THAT. AND I KNOW WE CAN STIPULATE THAT THAT ISN'T OH, GOD INTERSECTION GROUP CITY, AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
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REALLY CONTROL THAT, BUT I'M SURE IF YOU'RE DOING THE FUNDING OF THE IMPROVEMENT. YOU CAN MAYBE. IN A LITTLE BIT TOWARD THAT DIRECTION. AS LONG AS I'M SURE GOOD CITY WILL, TOO. FOR SOUTHBOUND ETERNALLY TO LEAVE THE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TWO IT SHOULD BE GOOD. THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND STAFF COULD FIND THE TRAIL MAP. IMAGE TO DISPLAYO SEE YOU FINALLY PUT DOWN THE TRAIL MAP AND GIVE US ACCESS ALL THE WAY FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF ONE AND FOUR ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST SIDE OF ONE. OH, SIX OR 6 65. WITH THE SINCERE HOPE THAT THE CITY OR SOMEONE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT. THE REST OF THE WAYSIDE AUTOGRAPH THAT'S THAT'S SPECTACULAR. I ALSO NOTE THAT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, THE THERE'S A ROAD AT THE NORTH EAST AND THAT WOULD ALLOW ACCESS OUT THROUGHS. IOTA GROVE. LOOK OR IS EITHER MEADOWS OVER TO SIROTA GROVES? SO THERE IS EVEN NOW A WAY TO GET THERE, SO I'M VERY EXCITED THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. THE POINT ABOUT THE, UM, THE CONDOS IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. THERE'S ALREADY A TRAIL LOOPING AROUND THAT. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING THAT TRAIL NOW? ALSO TOWARDS THE WEST? ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF PLUM RUN YOU YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING THAT ROAD ANYWAY, SO TAKE IT TO ONE OF FOUR. TURN NORTH AND CONNECT RIGHT THERE. IT'S NOT A TON OF DISTANCE. THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING ON ONE OF FOUR WITH WIDENING GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY? TO BRIDGE A TRAIL ACROSS THAT PATH. A REAL EIGHT FT TRAIL. UM, THAT WOULD GIVE CONNECTIVITY. UM TO THE. TO THE TRAIL IN THE MAIN UNIT IN THE MAIN AREA. HERE'S YOUR SUGGESTING THAT. THAT CONNECTIVITY WOULD EXTEND. ALLOW THE RESTAURANTS, THE CROSSING ON ONE OF FOUR WOULD NOT CROSS ONE OF FOUR ROADWAY. THERE'S A BRIDGE THERE, RIGHT? YOU'RE SUGGESTING IT WOULD CROSS TO THE NORTH THERE, RIGHT? THAT IS AN EXTREMELY WIDE BRIDGE WHEN THEY UPGRADED THAT INTERSECTION THAT BRIDGE NORTH 66 OR FIVE IS EXTREMELY WIDE, FOUR LANES THERE. YOU KNOW, IDEALLY, THERE'D BE SOME KIND OF BOLLARDS OR SEPARATION FOR THAT BIKE PATH , BUT IT'S VERY COMMON FOR BIKE PATHS TO USE PUBLIC BRIDGES TO GET ACROSS STREAMS ALL OVER THE PLACE. BUT THAT WAY RESIDENTS IN THE CONDOS WHEN IT HAS TO GET IN THEIR CAR AND DRIVE 1/10 OF A MILE AROUND THE CORNER AND PARK. NEXT TO THE TRAILHEAD. TO BE ABLE TO USE IT. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER. UM SOME OF THE SOME OF THE FEATURES THAT, UM, THAT AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO GET OVER THAT. WOULD BE THERE'S A STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE. UM IT'S REALLY LIMITED. THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS LIMITING A LOT OF OUR ACCESS TO THIS AREA. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO STUDY AND I COULDN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW WHERE THAT IS AND IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THERE, BUT BETWEEN THE STREAM QUARTER PROTECTION ZONE AND THE APOSTROPHE, THAT WOULD BE OUR ISSUE. BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT LOOKING AT AND INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE CONDOMINIUM UNITS. THAT MARKET SEGMENT YOU'RE GOOD AT GOING FOR ARE NOT ALL CONFINED TO SITTING ON THEIR PORCHES. THEY WANT ACTIVE LIFESTYLES, AND PART OF THAT IS THE ABILITY TO WALK ON A TRAIL OR RIDE A BIKE ON THE TRAIL. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS GROW.CITIES REALLY KNOWN FOR. UM I'D ALSO COMMEND YOU. I LOOKED THROUGH ALL THE FLOOR PLANS. I'M THRILLED TO SEE LARGER, REALLY SOME FAIRLY LARGE HOMICIDES. THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE OF THE FLOOR PANS THAT ARE PRETTY SMALLISH. AND I WOULD EXUME THAT THOSE ARE TARGETED FOR THE CONDOMINIUM SECTION. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THE 12 HUNDREDS. THE 13 SQUARE FOOT YES , EVERYTHING ELSE WAS NICE AND BIG AND HEAVY. YOU KNOW, UPSTAIRS. SECOND FLOOR IS LOTS OF BEDROOMS, SO IT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE STRIVING TO BE A PREMIER COMMUNITY. SO. ONE POINT TO ADDRESS THEIR AREA A, WHICH IS THE EAST SIDE AND THE HOMES THAT RUN ALONG THE NORTHEAST
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SIDE ARE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS FROM SOIL. VERY B. UM A NICER PRODUCT FROM SUDBURY BEAT, BUT WE WILL OFFER THAT PRODUCT IN SOME AREA BE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD IT. WE WON'T OFFER THE PRODUCT FROM SILVER BABY TO BE ALLOWED TO BE BUILT IN SUDBURY, A JUST A TO B. WHAT ABOUT THE PRODUCT FROM SOME VARIOUS CITIES? SEE, SEE THE CONDO AREA. WE'RE OFFERING TWO RANCHES TO RANCH PRODUCTS TO BE BUILT IN SUB AREA. B. THAT COULD SERVE. IT'S A IT'S A RANGE PRODUCT. IN SOME CASES, WE BUILD IT IN OUR EMPTY NESTER COMMUNITIES AND OTHER AREAS. IT'S JUST A LITTLE LARGER THAN WHAT WE'RE OFFERING IN SOME AREAS SO WE WON'T OFFER THE PRODUCT AND SOME VARIOUS C TO BE BUILT IN SUDBURY, A AND B. JUST BE I'M SORRY. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT. I THINK IT SHOWS. UM RESPONSIVENESS TO ARE ENCOURAGING YOU TO TAKE THIS UPSCALE. DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH MARKET? VALUE ON THE HOMES AT THIS POINT. UM I YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE MID FOUR HUNDRED'S AND UP ON THE SINGLE FAMILY. UM, ON THAT ON THE EMPTY NECESSARY TO BE LOW TO MID THREE HUNDRED'S. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU SAID ONE OTHER COMMENT, APPRECIATIVE OF THE SET ASIDE ON THE GROUND. DOWN AT THE, UH. WE'RE 6 65 TURNED STRAIGHT NORTH THAT 90 DEGREE. IT'S MR HANDLER, RIGHT? YEAH THAT IS OVER THE 45 YEARS I'VE LIVED ON 60 65. THERE'S A LOT OF CARS SHOOT STRAIGHT OFF. INTO HIS FRONT AND SIDE YARD. I CAN'T TELL YOU THE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN END UP IN ESSENTIALLY THE WHOLE CANOE LIVERIES FRONT YARD THERE, SO IT'S NICE THAT WE CAN FINALLY ADDRESS THAT. I KNOW THAT'S ALL UP TO GO DOT AND THEIR FUNDING. BUT THAT WILL BE A BIG IMPROVEMENT. I'M SURE MR HANDEL BE THRILLED WITH THAT, BECAUSE IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS CORNER, NO MATTER HOW THEY MARKET, PEOPLE STILL SHOOT OFF THE END OF THE RED THERE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT SET ASIDE THAT ANCHORAGE THANKS. FOR ANYTHING FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. CHRISTOPHER RIGHT. AND FIRE PREVENTION OFFICER JACKSON TOWNSHIP. I JUST WANT TO GO FOR THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED. WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR FIRE OPERATIONS ? JUST REVIEWING THE PLANS? LOOKS LIKE THE MAIN PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT LOOKS GOOD FOR US. IT'S ABOUT 28 FT. I THINK FOR US ALL, UH, THE CONDO SECTION IS 25 FT. OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR OPERATIONS STARTS AT 26 FT. WITH ANYTHING THAT HAS A HYDRANT OR IF WE'RE GOING TO DO AERIAL OPERATIONS WITH OUR TRUCKS, SO JUST WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN, WE JUST WANTED THE BOYS SAT IN THE KNOW THAT THIS 11 FT HERE, BUT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S OUR STARTING POINT, AND IF THEY COULD CHANGE THAT. I MEAN, SIX INCHES ON EACH OTHER ROOM AND THEN MR ROCK STATEMENT ON 6 65.WE AGREED TO LIKE THAT WOULD BAKING THAT WIDER FOR US, SO WE'RE NOT CAUSING ACCIDENTS.
WATER RESPONDING WITH SCENES WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU ASK YOU A QUESTION. THERE'S AN ACCESS ROAD ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THE CONDOMINIUMS. BUT IT'S NOT A PUBLIC ROAD. IS THAT INTENDED FOR FIRE? YEAH WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT, TOO. AND IT SHOULD HAVE HAD BOLLARDS ON IT.
I BELIEVE THERE'S DIFFERENT STYLES OF OTHERS. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE FUNCTIONAL BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO RUN INTO. AND WE DON'T WANT TO DAMAGE OUR VEHICLES. THERE'S OTHER ONES THROUGHOUT PINNACLE NEXT TO THE GOLF COURSE SIDE.
THEY DO HAVE SOME THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY LOWER WITH OUR HYDRANT RANGES, WHICH MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE MEANS FOR US TO ACCESS THAT AREA. BUT IT IS YOUR QUESTION. AL FOR DEVELOPER CLARIFY WITH THAT DRIVEWAY ON THE OR THAT ROADWAY ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THE CONDOS IS INTENDED FOR. AND UM, COULD YOU COMMENT ON THE BALLADS? I THINK I COULD SPEAK TO THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S UM, THAT IS MORE OF A CONSTRUCTION PLAN LEVEL DETAILS SO IF THE TYPE OF BOLLARDS PROPOSED HERE ARE NOT ADEQUATE, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK THROUGH THAT DETAIL. I DON'T BELIEVE WE SPECIFY THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. JUST THAT IT'S AN EMERGENCY ACCESS. I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO LEAVE IT AS EMERGENCY ACCESS IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS BECAUSE THEY
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WERE NOT INTERSECTION. IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED THERE SO WE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY WANT TO ENCOURAGE MORE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION. OR THAT ACCESS POINT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IT DOES PROVIDE SAFE EMERGENCY ACCESS. APPRECIATE THAT. I GUESS. ONE MORE THING ON THE STREET WEST TWO IS 26 FT. THERE'S NO NEED TO BE NO PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, 28 FT THAT THEY HAVE THROUGHOUT THE REST THAT ALLOWS, UH 26 FT. 2 32 FT ALLOWS FOR PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, SO THEY DO HAVE PARKING JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS KNOWLEDGE THAT MIGHT BE A CONSIDERATION WITH AND THEY CAN'T PARK ANYWHERE.RIGHT? CORRECT WHEREAS WHEREAS 25 FT IT SHOULD BE INCREASED TO 26 FT, BUT STILL ZERO PARKING HER ON THE STREET. AGAIN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S NOT THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE 26 FT VERSUS 25 ALLOWS PRIVATE STREETS TO BE A MINIMUM OF 24. FT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE WILL WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE ACCESS. BUT IT ALSO SAYS THAT PRIVATE STREETS ARE PERMITTED TO DEVIATE FROM PUBLIC ROADWAY STANDARDS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO AS A CURRENTLY STANDS, THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING TEXT AS PROPOSED. AND JUST THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AWARE OF RIGHT NOW. THE CITY IS WORKING THROUGH SOME COMMENTS WITH THE TOWNSHIP WITH RESPECT TO ST WIDTHS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE HIGHER PRICE CODE VERSUS YOU LOOK AT THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE. IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO AND FORCE THE FIRE CODE. WHAT JURISDICTION IS SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES RIGHT NOW.
BUT IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD DEVELOPED WITH 22 FT, UH, PAYMENT. REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MATH AS LONG AS YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE TWO WAY TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY WITH NO ON STREET PARKING 25 FT. SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT AS A 2.5 ROAD WITH FOR EACH EACH DIRECTION, SO THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES THAT ENGINEERS WELL AS WE COME TO A RESOLUTION WITH THESE OTHER OTHER ISSUES, BUT THERE ARE ISSUES WITH WITH THE CONFERENCE CONVERSATIONS, ALMOST THE ISSUES THAT ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW. RIGHT SO I GUESS IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION OF WHAT IT IS. WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WHY THE NUMBERS ARE WHAT THEY ARE 26 FT IS FOR WHEN WE PUT A SUPPLY LINE IN TO PREVENT KICKING THE HOSE, SO WE GET ADEQUATE WATER SUPPLY , SO IT'S NOT STRICTLY TRAFFIC RELATED. AND THEN WITH OUR AIRLINE OPERATIONS WHEN WE SET UP OUR OUTRIGGERS OR TRUCK I WILL BE POTENTIALLY 21 FT WIDE.
SO YOU HAVE 21 FT. AND THEN OUR TRUCKS ARE ALMOST 10 FT WIDE. THERE'S NO PASSING AROUND THOSE TRUCKS WHEN YOU DO THAT, SO IT'S REALLY GONNA IF WE SET UP THE LADDER IS GOING TO LOCK UP THAT ROAD FOR TRAFFIC. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN AN ALTERNATE ROUTE, SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST GENERAL DRIVING THROUGH, UH, IN OUR ACCESS INTO STRUCTURE OR INTO THE DEVELOPMENTS. 20 FT IS THE MINIMUM FOR ACCESS AND THAT IS BASICALLY DRIVING WISE SO ANYWHERE THAT THERE IS A FIRE HYDRANT. WE NEED THE 26 FT OR ANYWHERE THAT WE MIGHT USE OUR AREA OR LADDER TRUCK. WE NEED 26 FT. IN ORDER FOR US TO PROPERLY USE OUR EQUIPMENT, SO JUST SAY IT'S NOT JUST DRIVING. IT'S NOT JUST GETTING IN, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO WORK AROUND THAT STAR. THAT'S WHAT WORKSPACE OR WORKSTATION AND WE NEED THE AVAILABLE TO MOVE AROUND IT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS HELPFUL. I MEAN, IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. RILEY 7 90 LONDON GROWTH COURT ROAD THREE MINUTES. MR ROCK. THANK YOU. UM IF I PRONOUNCE THAT, RIGHT? YES, IT HELPS ME TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION A LITTLE BIT BETTER. THERE'S 11 CONDOS THAT ARE GOING ON OUR PROPERTY LINE AND THEY'RE 20. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO US. SO I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING FOR THOSE BOUNDARIES. UM THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I UNDERSTAND. DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. IT'S HOW THE WORLD WORKS. UM BUT TO PUT 11 CONDOS ON OUR PROPERTY LINE AND JUST AS A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT WHEN ITS OWN OR WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SINGLE FAMILY, UM SO YEAH, I HOPE THAT NO, NO, I JUST I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME REALTORS MISLEAD FOLKS. THAT FILM ACROSS THE STREET IS GOING TO BE FILLED FOREVER. AND THIS WAS ALREADY
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ZONED THIS WAY. YEAH AND 2050 PLAN. STATES A LOT OF FOLKS WHAT'S COMING AND PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR REALTOR WAS CLEAR WITH YOU HERE AGO. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU AND WE ACCIDENTALLY SET UP FOR A FIRE ALARM. AND YOU GUYS SHOWED UP IN ABOUT FOUR MINUTES. SO THANK YOU AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RIGHT? I JUST HAD ONE MORE COMMENT. IN, UH. TOTAL CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I WEAR ESSENTIALLY TWO HATS. ALL IN THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT ALSO A TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE. WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF THE CITY AND THE HIERARCHY. IT'S FAIR DEPARTMENT. CAN HAVE AN OPEN COMMUNICATION. AND FIGURE OUT THIS STREET WITH SCENARIOS. BECAUSE I KNOW THE VERY SOMEWHAT GREATLY IN THE PAST. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GETTING RIGHT DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY OF AT THIS POINT, WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO A FOOT, WHICH IS 12 INCHES OF KIND OF A DISAGREEMENT ON THINGS SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BOTH PARTIES. UH, KEEP WORKING TOWARD RESOLUTION ON THIS THAT. MAINLY LOOKS OUT FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS. AND ALSO FOR THE INVESTMENT PEOPLE MAKING THESE HOMES AND CONDOMINIUMS. SO IT'S A WORK COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT JUST THE CITY IN THE TOWNSHIP WHERE COMMUNITY IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'RE WITHIN A FOOT OF WORKING THIS OUT. RIGHT? READY FOR EMOTION. MOTION. WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL. CITY COUNCIL APPLICATION THREE COMMUNITY OF PLUM RUN DEVELOPMENT PLANS. UM HI. TO ADD A STIPULATION IS MOTION, OR DO WE HAVE TO WELL, IT HAS ABOUT SECOND YET. SO IF IT DOESN'T GET SECOND. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IF THERE'S NO SECOND IN THE MOTION WOULD DIE, AND THEN WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION. UH HE CAN MOVE TO AMENDED RIGHT NOW . YEAH YOU COULD RECOMMEND EMOTION IF WE COULD AMEND YOUR MOTION. TWO. MAKE SURE THAT THE WEST PROPERTY LINE ON 7 90 GROUP PORTRAYED IN CONSTRUCTION IN THE CHURCH. UM, THAT WAS THAT NOTE WAS SPECIFIC TO THE TYPE OF BOLLARD TO ENSURE PROPER EMERGENCY ACCESS. AMEND THAT THAT WE ADD. THE AMOUNTING TO FOUR FT. MOUND FOREFOOT MAIL ON ONCE THAT WOULD INTEREST THE WEST SIDE OF 7 90. THE NINE POINT RED ROAD. IN WITH THE PIOUS, ONE ROW ELEVATED ON THE MOUND AND ONE ROAD. OFF THE MOUND CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY. AMENDED. I SECOND.AT THAT CLEAR. OKAY? MR TITUS? YES. CHAIR. OYSTER? YES. MR ROCK? YES. MR FREE? YES. THANK YOU TO ALL. LAST ON THE LIST. APPLICATION NUMBER FOUR HICKORY CREEK DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I
[4. APPLICATION: Hickory Creek – Development Plan]
APOLOGIZE FOR BEING UP HERE AGAIN. UM JIM HILL'S PULTE HOMES OF OHIO FOR 75 METRO PLACE SOUTH OF OHIO. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NEW RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY CONTAINING ANYONE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS ON A 35.25 ACRE PARCEL ON ORDERS ROAD. THE SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY REZONED TO PDR IN 2015 AND RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WAS ALSO APPROVED IN 2016. HOWEVER THE SUBDIVISION WAS NEVER BUILT IN BOTH THE PLAN AND P U D ARE RESIGNING HAVE EXPIRED. PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN MAY OF 2022. PLANNING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING OF THE SITE TO P U D R WITH A STUNNING TEXT AT THE AUGUST 2ND 2022 MEETINGS AND IF THE REZONING. IF THE REZONING APPLICATION TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IS SCHEDULED TO HAVE A SECOND READING AT CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 19TH. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES 81 PATIO HOMES IN TUCSON AREAS SUB AREA[01:30:04]
IS PROPOSED ALONG THE SITES EASTERN PROPERTY LINE AND WILL BE COMPRISED OF 80 FT WIDE LINES. PROPOSED 80 FT WIDE LODGE WILL PROVIDE A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE SOUTHERN GROUPS OF DIVISION TO THE EAST AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. SIBERIA DEALER COMPRISE THE REMAINDER OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND HAVE LOTS RANGING BETWEEN 57 TO 60 FT IN WIDTH. THE SITE WILL HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT ALONG ORDERS ROAD. THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWED THE PROPOSED SITE ENTRANCE IN LINE WITH HALEY WAY INTERSECTING WITH ORDERS ROAD AT THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE SITE, BUT BASED ON FEEDBACK RECEIVED FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL, THE ENTRANCE LOCATION WAS SHIFTED FURTHER WEST TO BREAK UP THE STREET STRETCH OF PARAGUAY. UPON ENTERING THE SITE FROM ORDERS. RODION THE ENTRANCE ROAD STOPS IN THE HILLY WAY AND VEHICLES TO EITHER TURN LEFT TO ACCESS THE CUL DE SAC OR RIGHT TO ACCESS MOST OF THE LOTS AND CONNECT TO THE EXISTING PORTION OF HALEY. WAY IN HALTON RUN TO THE NORTH. A STUB STREET IS PROPOSED TO ALLOW FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY TO WILLIAMS THEIR COURT IN THE SOUTHERN GROUPS OF DIVISION WITH TREATMENTS LIKE THOSE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN HOLT AND RUN AND SOUTHERN GROOVE, INCLUDING FENCING, KNOWLEDGE AND LESS GIVING PLAN TURNS. THE ZONING TEXT FOR THE SITE REQUIRES A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THE INTEGRATED INTO THE STREETSCAPE OR BLACK BANKS EXCEED 800 FT IN LENGTH, AND PLANS SHOW THAT THE MEETING IS PROPOSED. WHERE HALEY WAY CROSSES THE HOLDEN RUN STREAM PROPOSED MEDIAN EUROS TRAFFIC LANES TO 12 FT. AND WITH HE NEEDS DIRECTION WITH A SIX FT WIDE MEETING. PLANS FOR THE WIDENING OF OR IS ROAD WERE DESIGNED AS PART OF THE PREVIOUS PLAN, APPROVAL IN 2016 AND THE CITY AND APPLICANTS HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE ALPHABET MAKING A CONTRIBUTION. FOR THE FUTURE INSTALLATION OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF A FUTURE CITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING THE EXTENSION OF THE WATERLINE ACROSS THE PROPERTIES OVER ORDERS ROAD FRONTAGE. HAVE RECENTLY BEEN UPDATED BASED ON CURRENT COSTS. FURTHER DISCUSSION WILL BE NEEDED TO DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THESE IMPROVEMENTS. CODE 4.42 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IS REQUIRED TO BE DEDICATED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT. A TOTAL OF 11.9 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IS PROVIDED.OF THE PROVIDED OPEN SPACE 9.5 ACRES MEET. THE STRICT CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE OPEN SPACE. AND THE REMAINING 2.4 ACRES WOULD BE PRESERVED AS ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE. THE OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT IS TO BE OWNED BY THE CITY OF GROUP CITY AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS OR CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION. THE PLAN ALSO INCLUDES SEVERAL EIGHT FT WIDE MULTI USE PATHS THROUGHOUT THE SITE TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY ACROSS THE SITE PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH AN ADDITIONAL RECREATIONAL AMENITY. THE MULTI USE PATHWAYS ARE ROUTED THROUGH THE RESERVE AREAS AND PROVIDE CONNECTIONS TO THE HOLDING RUN SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH. THE HIDDEN MEADOWS DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST. ORDERS ROAD TO THE SOUTH. IN ADDITION TO THESE MULTI USE PATHS, FIVE FT WIDE SIDEWALKS. I PROPOSED ON BOTH SIDES OF ALL RAILWAYS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
PROPOSED AND ALL THAT MEETS ALL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE ZONING TEXT FOR THE SITE, INCLUDING STREET TREES ALONG BOTH SIDES OF ROADWAYS, SUPPLEMENTAL LANDSCAPING AND PLANTINGS AND RESERVE AREAS AND AROUND THE RETENTION PONDS. THE PROPOSED PLANTING SHOWING AT THIS RETENTION PONDS NEED TO PLANTING REQUIREMENTS OUT OF THE CITY STORM MARTYR DESIGN MANUAL.
FOR THE ZONING TEXT. THE EXISTING VEGETATION ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE IS TO BE AUGMENTED WITH ADDITIONAL TREES AS NEEDED, AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS THAT REQUIREMENT IS MET. NOTING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETS ALL CRITERIA OUTLINED AND CODE FOR PD DISTRICTS AND RESULT INEQUALITY DEVELOPMENT. AND IT'S BOTH THE GROWTH CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THE SITE. AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION OF DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVAL RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WITH THE STIPULATION NOTED. LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS. UH REALLY? JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. UM AFTER THE REZONING HERE, WHICH WAS RELATIVELY RECENTLY. I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING AGAIN. UM BUT, UM, THERE WAS A SLIGHT CHANGE FROM THE SITE PLAN FROM THE REZONING AND THAT THE ENTRANCE ACTUALLY MOVED AFTER MEETING WITH THE CENTRAL CITY ENGINEER. THEY RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVED IT BACK TO THE EAST, SO IT'S MORE CENTERED INTO THE SITE AND REALLY THE PURPOSE IS TO MEET THE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT TO LINE UP WITH THE PARK ENTRANCE ACROSS THE STREET, SO THAT SO THAT THEY ARE LINED UP, I IT'S HARD TO TELL, UM FROM THAT, BUT THAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE IT BACK TO THE EAST.
WITH THAT, WE, UM SO WE CHANGED THE ENTRANCE FEATURE. UM AND I DON'T CAN WE GET TO GROUP. THIS THING'S TURNED OFF, SO. RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE. ONE MORE. THERE YOU GO. SO WE THE INTEREST FEATURE THAT WE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED WAS JUST HAD A SIGN. ON ONE SIDE. WE PUT SIGNS ON BOTH
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SIDES. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT CAR IS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET. UM WE'LL FIX THAT. BUT SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF OPEN SPACES WAS TALKED ABOUT THE TRAIL RUN. MULTI HE'S PASSED FROM THROUGHOUT THE SITE. UM AND THIS IS AN EMPTY NESTER PRODUCT THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM PLUM RUN A LARGER HOUSE 45 FT WIDE SERVING, BUT IT'S INTENDED FOR THE SAME. SAME BUYER. SO IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE YEAH. QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. JUST ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF. THE LAST CONDO SECTION. WE LOOKED AT HAD PRIVATE ROADS ON CRACK. THIS. DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE CITY RIGHTS IN CORRECT. THE CITY TAKES CARE OF THEM MAINTENANCE AND SNOWPLOW. YES THE PLANS SHOW ALL PUBLIC ROADS, BUT THEY WOULD BE CONDOMINIUM LOTS I BELIEVE PLANTED OFF OF PUBLIC ROADS. AND ALL OF THE PUBLIC OPEN OR ALL OF THE OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE AREA. THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PUBLIC AS WELL. PUBLIC ROADS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. YEAH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS SO IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD DEAL IS CHANGED SINCE WE SAW THE PRELIMINARY AND THE REZONING TEXT HERE. UM AND IN THAT NEW ENTRANTS IN THE MIDDLE, THERE DOESN'T APPEAR FROM AN AERIAL PHOTO TO ALIGN WITH EITHER OF THE DRIVEWAYS FOR CENTURY. CITY. SO I'M NOT SURE WHY IT MOVED TO THE MIDDLE. UM A LOT OF IT WAS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE ORDERS, WROTE THE PLANNED ORDERS WROTE IMPROVEMENTS. THEY IT DOES NOT PERFECTLY MATCH UP WITH THE ENTRANCE TO CENTURY VILLAGE. BUT I DO THINK THERE IS THE IDEA THAT THAT ROAD INTO CENTURY VILLAGE OR THAT ENTRANCE COULD SHIFT IN THE FUTURE. WITH THOSE FUTURE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. THERE ARE ALSO POWER LINES ALONG ORDERS ROAD AND SO WE'RE BEING VERY COGNIZANT OF HOW THIS AND TRANS INTERACTED WITH THOSE POWER LINES JUST FOR US THAT IX AND SAFETY PURPOSES. I ALSO NOTICED THAT THE ELEVATIONS IN SAMPLE FOR PLANS HAVE CHANGED FROM WHAT WE NOTED IN THE ZONING TEXT IN MY REVIEW OF MY NOTES FROM THE ZONING APPROVAL OR RECOMMENDATION. I HAD WRITTEN DOWN 4800 SQUARE FOOT. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE 17 TO 1900 SQUARE FEET. SO IS THAT WHERE ARE THOSE HAVE NOT CHANGED? THAT'S THE BASE SQUARE FOOTAGE. UM THESE HOMES HAVE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT CAN BE ADDED ON THE SECOND FLOOR. UM YOU CAN ADD A BEDROOM AND A LOFT AREA, WHICH IS LIMITED TO LIKE 50% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. SO THERE THE HOUSES CAN GET BIGGER, BUT WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THE PRODUCT FROM THE TIME WE SUBMITTED TO NOW. WELL, I GUESS THAT I'M JUST CONFUSED BY WHAT I HEARD AT THAT MEETING THAT UM YEAH, AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THIS IS A MOVING TARGET. IT HASN'T EVEN MADE IT THROUGH ZONING WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL YET. AND UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SO I JUST HOPE THAT THEY ARE CLEAR ON WHAT THEIR ZONING IS THAT THERE CONSIDERING IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. UM, POSITIVE COMMENTS.THEY DO LIKE THE TRAIL PLAN. IT AGAIN GIVES US CONNECTIVE ITTY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT IN AT LEAST TWO PLACES. THAT'S GOOD. I LIKE HOW THE CROSSING OF THE STREAM IS USED TO BREAK UP THAT ONE LONG ROAD AND ACT AS A TRACK TRAFFIC, CALMING. UM I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED, BUT I THINK I PICKED IT UP HERE THAT WHERE WILLIAMSBURG COURT CONNECTS TO SOUTHERN GROVE THAT'S A LIMITED TO BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION. RIGHT. THERE'S NO CORRECT. OKAY? AND THEN MY FINAL COMMENT IS, UM THE IDEA OF AND IT'S IN THE STIPULATION WE'RE ABOUT TO CONSIDER PARTICIPATION IN THE ORDER. ROAD COST IS REALLY VAGUE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, A CUP OF COFFEE AND 10 BUCKS OR A PROGRAM TO SHARE OF SOME SORT. BUT I'M I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT VAGUENESS. AND ALSO AS TO TIMING, YOU COULD HAVE THIS WHOLE THING. BUILT OUT, DEVELOPED AND BE GONE BEFORE WE GET AROUND TO AN ORDERS ROAD IMPROVEMENT. WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEY ARE. I MEAN, THEY'VE INDICATED AN AGREEMENT TO PARTICIPATING, UM, THE PLANS FOR ORDERS AROUND HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN DESIGNED WITH THE SUBDIVISION. WHAT 56 YEARS AGO, AND THE COST ESTIMATES WERE JUST RECENTLY UPDATED TO CURRENT DAY COSTS, AND WE HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO REALLY DISCUSS WHAT THAT UPDATE IN COST WOULD MEAN
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SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN THAT THEY ARE AGREEABLE TO IT. UM WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FINALIZE WHAT THAT SPECIFIC CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE IN TERMS OF THE ROADWAY AND THE WATER LINE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IN REVIEWING THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE DID NOT FEEL THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT NECESSITATED THE ORDERS, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, SO WE DID NOT FEEL THAT WE NEEDED THAT CONTRIBUTION. AND THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD STILL SAFELY OCCUR WITHOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO ORDERS ROAD OCCURRING. I'M HEARING FROM THAT YEAR, OKAY WITH THE VAGUENESS. IT'S MORE THAN A CUP OF COFFEE. UM BUT WE ARE WE ARE WE SUPPORT UM, PAYING , YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTING FOR THE ROAD WIDENING AND FOR THE WATER LINE. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY CONFUSION THAT WE MAY HAVE CREATED IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. NOW VERSUS WHAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THE REZONING. THE QUESTIONS ARE PLANNING COMMISSION. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. HEARING, NONE WERE READY FOR EMOTION. HERE I WILL MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AGREED CREEK FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE STIPULATION AS NOTED. BROKE ALL. MR FREE? YES. MR ROUND. ROCK. I'M SORRY. MR TITUS. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR. YES, THANK YOU. CHAIR. OYSTER? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WITH THAT BEING THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND