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GROVE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL. THANK YOU, MR ROCK. MR FREE. PRESENT. CHAIR OYSTER HERE. MR FARNSWORTH. MR TITUS.
IF YOU JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
RELATIONS. MONTH STATES OF AMERICA. REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS SAYING. ONE NATION. AND JUSTICE.
ALWAYS TRY MOVED THAT WE SHOW MR ROCK AS EXCUSED FOR THIS MEETING. SECOND. WE'LL CALL. MR FREE? YES OYSTER? YES MR FARNSWORTH? YES, MR TITUS. COMMISSION HAS HAD THE
[C. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES – September 6, 2022]
OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 6TH. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THESE MEETING MINUTES. SECOND ROLL CALL. MR FREE? YES OYSTER? YES, MR FARNSWORTH? YES, MR TITUS? YES.[1. APPLICATION: Courtyards at Mulberry Run- Preliminary Development Plan]
TODAY WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. SO WHEN YOUR ITEM IS CALLED IF THE REPRESENTATIVE WOULD STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS, THAT CAN BE YOUR HOME ADDRESS OR YOUR BUSINESS, WHICHEVER YOU PREFER TO PROVIDE AND THEN AFTER THAT THE CITY WILL GIVE THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. ITEM NUMBER ONE. COURTYARDS AT MULBERRY RUN PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AFTERNOON MY NAME IS JASON COFFEE WITH UPCOMING COMMUNITIES. 500 STONE. PARKWAY. DUBLIN, OHIO. THE AFRICAN IS APPLYING FOR APPROVED PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 74 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON 24.588 ACRES LOCATED ON WHITE ROAD EAST OF MCDOWELL ROAD AND WEST OF I 71. 14.52 ACRE TRACK OF LAND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WHITE ROAD WAS ANNEXED FROM JACKSON TOWNSHIP IN 1972. THIS APPLICATION IS FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ASSESS THE CONCEPT AND INITIAL DESIGN AND IN DEPTH REVIEW WILL BE WILL BE TAKING PLACE DURING THE REZONING FILE DEVELOPMENT AND FINAL ENGINEERING PLAN. THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE FINALIZATION OF THE ANNEXATION FOR THE NORTHERN PARCEL REZONING FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW. 24.588 ACRE DEVELOPMENT IS BROKEN INTO TWO SECTIONS ONE ON THE NORTH OF WHITE ROAD AND ONE ON THE SOUTH. THE NORTHERN SECTION IS 10.6 TO 7 ACRES AND THE SOUTHERN SECTION IS 13.961 ACRES. THE NORTHERN SECTION WILL CONSIST OF 40 UNITS ON LOTS MEASURING APPROXIMATELY 40 50 54 FT. 128 FT WITH ONE PROPOSED ACCESS OFF MCDOWELL ROAD ACROSS FROM TUTERA COURT. THEY PROPOSE STREETS WILL BE PRIVATE AND RANGE FROM 22 FT. TO 28 FT IN WIDTH. PARKING WILL BE PERMITTED ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD IN THE 28 FT WIDE SECTION. YOU'RE THE OPEN SPACE IN RESERVE B. WITH WHICH WILL PROPOSE FEATURES OF PICKLEBALL AND BOUGHT YOUR BALL COURTS A 20 FT WIDE EMERGENCY POINT CONNECTING FROM THE COLOR SACK TO JODI DRIVE ON THE EASTERN SIDE. ON THE SAME. A SIX FT PRIVACY FENCE IS PROPOSED ALONG THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN SIDE OF THE SITE ALONG PROPERTY LINES JUST GREEN FROM ADJACENT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, A SIX A 4 TO 6 FT MOUND IS PROPOSED ALONG THE SITE AND[00:05:01]
WHITE ROAD AND PORTIONS OF MCDOWELL ROAD. ALONG THE REAR OF THE PROPOSED LOTS. THE SOUTHERN SECTION WILL CONSIST OF 34 LOTS WITH APPROXIMATE APPROXIMATELY 54 FT BY 128 FT. THIS SECTION WILL HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT OFF WHITE ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 385 FT FROM I 71 THE PRIVATE ROAD WILL BE 28 FT IN WIDTH AND TERMINATE IN A COURT ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE, ALONG WITH A 20 FT ACCESS CONNECTING TO PRESLEY DRIVE. THE SOUTHERN SECTION WILL CONTAIN A CLUBHOUSE POOL AND BOCCE BALL COURTS. THE CLUBHOUSE IS PROPOSED IN THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION ALONG WHITE ROAD. AND HAS SIX HEAD IN PARKING SPACES, ONE OF WHICH IS HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE. YOU HAVE A CANE IS PROPOSING A CROSSWALK WITH FLASHING BEACONS ON WHITE ROAD AND YOUR COLOR FARMS PARK.WHILE THE FINAL DESIGN IS NOT REVIEWED DURING THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THE CROSSWALK WILL HAVE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS. AND SIGNS AND BEACONS TO HELP. HELP PEDESTRIANS CROSS SAFELY. FOR THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND CODE 3.93 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IS REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED 4.623 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE TWO SECTIONS. THE OPEN SPACE AREA IS PROPOSED TO CONTAIN AMENITIES INCLUDING PICKLEBALL COURTS. BOCCE BALL COURTS CLUBHOUSE IN POOL ALONG WITH PATHWAYS AND STORE MY RETENTION AREAS. NOTING THE GROWTH CITY 2050. FUTURE LAND USE DESIGN FOR THE AREA OF PARKS, OPEN SPACE AND PRESERVATION STAFF HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANTS. ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE ON THE NORTH SIDE BEING BEING PUBLIC AND ADDED TO KILLER FARMS PARK ALONG WITH OTHER WAYS TO INCREASE AND PRESERVE THE OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED RENDERINGS OF SEVEN DIFFERENT MODELS WITH. SIX WITH COLOR PALETTES CONTAINING VARIOUS SHADES OF WHITE, BROWN, BLACK AND BLUE, ALONG WITH STONE OPTIONS OF LIGHT, GRAY AND REDDISH BLUE. THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN MEETS ALL APPLICABLE PD STANDARDS. PROPOSED PLAN MEETS ALL APPLICABLE GROVE CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLES. AFTER HIS AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO REGULATION OF APPROVAL TO SEEK COUNSEL FOR THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANNERS. MR COFFEE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION. I THINK THE STAFF REPORTS VERY THOROUGH WHERE WELL DONE OTHER THAN SAY, WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE AGAIN EXCITED FOR ANOTHER COMMUNITY. WE'VE DONE SEVERAL COMMUNITIES WITHIN GROUPS CITY INCLUDING OUR LATEST ONE, WHICH IS LOCATED NOT FAR FROM HERE IN BULLA. AND BUT WE'VE GOT A FULL TEAM HERE TONIGHT. MIKE REEVES WE HAVE WITH THE KREMLIN HORN THAT TODD FARES, AFFAIRS PLANNING AND LISA. MICKLEY WITH OUR COMPANY AS WELL. SO GLAD WITH OUR COMPANY AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS WILL BE PART OF THE PROCESS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SPEED SO THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. HELP ME WITH YOUR THINKING ON THE NORTHERN PARCEL. AND WHILE WHY THAT EASTERN ACCESS ON THE NORTHERN PARCEL IS TO BE EMERGENCY ONLY AND NOT, I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S NOT A THROUGH THROUGH ROADWAY. REALLY BOTH ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. BOTH IT REALLY CAME OUT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH NEIGHBORS AND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO SEE WE THOUGHT HAVING THE ACCESS POINT WITH THE EMERGENCY WOULD BE A BETTER BEING A BETTER NEIGHBOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT REALLY CAME FROM DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WHAT THEY LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPMENT OCCUR IN THEIR AREA. IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT NORTHERN PARCEL. IT REALLY ISN'T ONLY CONNECTING INTO A LOOP ROAD. IT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE ABUSED AS A CUT THROUGH OR ADD ANY MORE TRAFFIC TO IT. AND I THINK I WENT TAKE THE OPPOSITE POSITION THAT THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT GENERAL THAT SMALL OF AN AREA WOULD APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO MOVE THROUGH THAT ONE. THE SOUTHERN PARCELS. MY OPINION WOULD BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BECOME A RACEWAY THROUGH TONIGHT. I SCHOOL AND I WOULD KEEP THAT AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS. SOMEWHERE I HEARD THAT THIS WAS A 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITY IS THAT TRUE IS THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IS AGED TARGETED FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE SAME HOMES ARE BUILT. SOMETIMES WE DO RESTRICT OTHER TIMES. WE DON'T
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TELL OUR PREFERENCE IS NOT TO JUST TO KEEP FLEXIBILITY ON OTHERS, BUT THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE PASSIVE AREAS AND IT'S REALLY CONDUCIVE TO REALLY KNOW KIDS. 55 PLUS BUYER. THE FORD PLANS AS WELL AS ANY OPEN SPACE AREAS, AND THE PASSIVE USE AROUND OUR HOMES ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO SOCCER GOALS AND THINGS YOU TYPICALLY SEE IN TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY, SO WE MONITOR THAT MORE BY USING THE H O A. AND THOSE REGULATIONS TO KEEP AGAIN. OUR BUYERS WHO WE WANT THE VIRUS. NOT QUITE SURE WHAT YOUR ANSWER WAS, IS THE WAY OF GOING TO BE RESTRICTED TO 52 , AN AGE GROUP WAS EVER SET UP AS A AS A 55 AGE RESTRICTED NOT SET UP TO BE THAT WAY. NO, NO, IT'S OPEN TO ALL OKAY. UM AND THERE WILL BE A CONDO OR H O A. H O A TWO SEPARATE H O S FOR THE 27. THAT WOULD BE A LEGAL QUESTION. PREFERENCE WOULD BE ONE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SEPARATE WITH RIGHT AWAY THAT MAY HAVE TO HAVE TWO, BUT IT BE UNDER ONE OVERALL UMBRELLA. COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS. THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, WHERE IT LOOKS ONTO WHITE ROAD AT THE NORTH END OF IT. THAT SIGHTLINE LOOKS TO BE REALLY CHALLENGE TO ME. GROWING UP IN THIS AREA, SO KNOWING THAT TRAFFIC COMING UNDERNEATH THAT 71 BRIDGE AS WELL AS DOWN THAT LITTLE A LITTLE RAMP. LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT COULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE CARS COMING OVER THAT HILL. EXCUSE ME, DAVID , CAN CAN YOU GUYS BRING UP THE SOUTH PICTURES? SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT DAVE IS TALKING ABOUT? AND I WOULD EXPECT DURING THE FINAL THE NEXT STAGES OF THIS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ACTUALLY DO SIGHTLINES AND SIGHT DISTANCE TO MAKE SURE THE LOCATION OF THAT ENTRANCE MEETS THE MEAT SUSTAINER FOR SIGHT DISTANCE. YOU CAN COME BACK TO THAT WHEN WE GET THE PICTURE UP. WE GOT IT. HIT AGAIN, BUT I'M SORRY. WHAT WHAT WAS YOUR CONCERN AND THEN COMMENT IS THAT ROAD MOVING EMPTYING OUT ONTO WHITE ROAD THERE. THAT THERE'S A SWAIL ON WHITE ROAD TO THE WEST OF IT. AND THEN THERE'S THE FREEWAY BRIDGES TO THE EAST OF IT AND BOTH MAKE FOR DIFFICULT SIGHT LINES TO BE ABLE TO TURN OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO I SUPPOSE IT'S SOLVABLE, BUT I WOULD THINK IT WOULD REQUIRE A GOOD DEAL OF CARE. RECOGNIZE THAT STUDY NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THAT. THEN THERE'S A CLUBHOUSE IN THE SOUTHERN ONE. AND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE OUT FRONT. SAID WITH THE SIZE OF THEM ARE, BUT IT DIDN'T SAY HOW MANY. CHICKS. AND. BUT THE COURTS IN THE NORTHERN ONE HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THAT? OUR CHEMO, SUPER DEDICATEE BUT YOU. BOTH OF THOSE SEEM A LITTLE SHY PARKING TO ME. YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE A SHOWER OR SOME KIND OF EVENT AT THE CLUBHOUSE. IT SEEMED GOOD DRAW MORE. AND IF THESE ARE PRIVATE STREETS, AND THEY'RE NOT TO THE FULL 28 FT. I'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES BEING ABLE TO NAVIGATE AROUND THAT, AND WE'RE SETTING UP THE STREETS ARE 28 FT WITH PARKING ON ONE SIDE, SO THE INTENT IS THAT HAS BEEN I THINK WE'VE MET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALREADY AND EMERGENCY IS OKAY WITH IT. AND NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE DEDICATED SPACES, BUT THE ON STREET AS WELL FOR ANY OVERFLOW PARKING FOR EVENTS, ETCETERA. THEN YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE YOU'RE COMMITTING TO 28 FT STREET WITH YES, DEVELOPMENTS ALREADY? YEAH DESERVE WHERE THE MIGHT WANT TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT WHERE THE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CIVIL MENTIONED STAFF REPORT. THERE'S SOME 22 FT WIDE.MAJORITY OF MARCH 28TH PREGNANT INSIDE. MIKE REEVES, CIVIL ENGINEER WITH KIM LEE HORN. 7965 NORTH HIGH STREET SUITE. 200 COLUMBUS, OHIO FOR 3235. UM. EVERY ALL OF OUR ROADS IN THE SOUTH ARE 28 FT, SO THEY WILL ALL MEET GROUP CITY STANDARD TO ALLOW ON STREET PARKING ON ONE SIDE THAT WILL BE ON THE NON FIRE HYDRANT SIDE OF THE STREET TO MAKE THAT CODE ON THE NORTH SIDE. TERRY, CAN YOU FLIP BACK TO THE NORTH OR SORRY THAT. UM, SO WE ARE CURRENTLY SHOWING. 28
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FT. COMING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT , UM, NECK DOWN TO 22 FT, UH, AROUND LOTS, 34 AND FIVE ON THIS PLAN TO HELP JUST GENERALLY WITH SOME TRAFFIC CALMING, AND THEN WE HAVE BUMP OUT PARKING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE THROUGHOUT THE VIEW OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENT WHERE NO, THE THROUGH LANES CONTINUE THROUGH, BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SMALL ISLANDS TO AGAIN. DESIGNATE THE PARKING HELPS. OFTEN THE FUTURES KEEP PEOPLE SLOWING DOWN, BUT THAT ALL THOSE BUMP OUTS ARE BACK AT 28 FT. SO YOU HAVE THE 28TH ESSENTIALLY A 28 FT ROAD THROUGH THERE, YOU GET A SMALL 22 FT SECTION AS YOU APPROACH THE NEXT INTERSECTION AGAIN FOR TRAFFIC, CALMING AND THEN 28 FT THROUGH THE CALLED US AT THE SAME THING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PICKLE BALL COURTS, WE HAVE SMALL 22 FT SECTIONS WITH 28 FT BUMP OUTS. SO I DON'T WANT TO. WE DON'T WANT TO SAY WE HAVE 28 THE EVERYWHERE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME 22 FT, UH, STREETWISE RIGHT THROUGH THERE TO JUST KIND OF HELP WITH LANDSCAPING AND TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT. I REALIZE THIS ISN'T A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BUT IF I SEE HER FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HERE, IF WE COULD COULD YOU GIVE US A COMMENT ON ON BOTH OF THOSE ISSUES DROPPING TO 22 FT WIDE STREETS AS WELL AS THAT NORTHERN SECTION, NOT HAVING A HAVING ONLY AN EMERGENCY PASSED THROUGH. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT, DOC. ACTUALLY BROUGHT A LITTLE VISUAL AID FOR YOUR GOALS.BUT THE PICTURES THERE THAT SHOWING IS OUR LADDER OR CURRENT LADDER, WHICH IS SMALLER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROJECTED TO HAVE HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THEIR FUTURE. THAT'S ON THE 22 FT WIDE ROAD THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, SO IN ORDER FOR US TO GET AROUND THAT TRUCK IS GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE OR TRUCK WITH THE OUTRIGGERS IN THE PADS DOWN AS 19 FT WIDE, SO 22 FT WIDE ROAD IS ABSOLUTELY NOT GOING TO GIVE US THE PATH THAT WE NEED AROUND 26 FT.
WITHOUT ANYTHING WITHOUT PARKING ON IT WILL GIVE US AMOUNT OF AREA THAT WE NEED TO GET AROUND OUR VEHICLE OR GET OUR VEHICLES AROUND THE LADDER THAT SET UP AH , SO THE 22 FT WILL NOT WORK AT ALL FOR US IN THAT AREA IN THE 28 THE AS FANTASTIC IF THERE'S NO PARKING THE DENSITY THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH PARKING IS GOING TO BE ON DRIVEWAYS OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE UTILIZING THE STREET AS SOON AS YOU PUT A SIX FT WIDE VEHICLE ON THEIR 20 FT FEET BECOMES 22. THERE'S YOUR PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. WE'RE GOING TO BE JAMMED UP AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET OUR VEHICLES AROUND THE LADDER IF IT HAS TO SET UP. YOU'RE SEEING A 28 FT WITH ON STREET ONE SIDE PARKING IS NOT ADEQUATE. FOR A LADDER OPERATIONS. CORRECT? YES. BUT WITH THESE HOMES BEING. ALSO 1.5, UM, STORIES MANY ONE AND THEN LOOKS LIKE A MAYBE A BONUS ROOM OR SOMETHING THAT MAYBE FOLKS WOULD OR WOULD NOT HAVE, UM, AS PART OF THEIR HOME. WITH THE LATTER EVEN BE HOW OFTEN WITH THE LATTER BE NECESSARY. WE CAN'T PREDICT HOW MUCH THANKFULLY, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF FIRES BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SAFE. UH DEPENDING ON IF WE DO VENTILATION ROOF VENTILATION WILL. IT'S A SAFER METHOD FOR US TO GET OUT OF RUFUS STUDIES IN THE GROUND LETTER, SETTING UP AN AERIAL LADDER WHERE WE HAVE A SAFETY PLATFORM TO WORK OFF. THAT'S MORE FOR FIREFIGHTER SAFETY AND OUR CREW SAFETY USING IT AT THAT, NOT AS MUCH RESCUE AS YOU WOULD HAVE UP TO THREE STORY DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE AROUND HERE AS WELL. YOU'RE SAYING THE 26. FT ALSO HELPS US WITH WHEN WE'RE SETTING UP OUR EVEN OUR FIRE ENGINES. YOU NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH ROOM ON THE SIDE OF THE TRUCK IN ORDER TO ATTACH YOUR HEADERS IF YOU DON'T IF YOU'RE TOO CLOSE BECAUSE YOU'RE MOVING CLOSE TO THE EDGE OF THE CURB FOR GUYS TO GET AROUND YOU IN YOUR HOUSE IS GOING TO KICK UP AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME WATER SLIDE ISSUES AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT ALL THE FIRE EFFICIENTLY. LIEUTENANT AS FAR AS WITH HOOVER CROSSING AND PINNACLE. I MEAN, WE HAVE IN THIS IS THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE. IT'S JUST IT SEEMS TO BE MORE ELIMINATED HERE RECENTLY. SO, UM WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THINGS WHEN IT'S ON PAPER VERSUS IT'S ALREADY BEING BUILT. HOW WINES ARE ROSEN LIKE HOOVER CROSSING WITH PARKING ON THOSE SIDES OF THE ROAD? I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S 90% OF WHAT WE GOT. YEAH SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HOUSING SIZES THE DRIVEWAYS , I MEAN, HOW MANY CARS CAN YOU FIT ALL THE DRIVEWAY AND WHO WERE CROSSING BUT FOUR CARS, SIX CARS AND SOME OF THE DRIVEWAYS SO THE STREETS ARE VERY RARELY UTILIZED. IF YOU GO DOWN GRAND AVENUE. IT'S 38 FT WIDE, SO
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THERE'S PARKING ON BOTH SIDES AND WE STILL HAVE CLEAR 26 FT ON EACH SIDE STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHAT THE DENSITY OR PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE USING THEIR DRIVEWAYS TO PARK, RIGHT? THEY'RE GONNA BE USING THE STREET TO PARK WHICH, LIKE IF YOU GO THROUGH THE PINNACLE GREENS, IT'S 26 FT. AND THERE'S PARKING ON BOTH SIDES AND IT'S HORRENDOUS FOR OUR CREWS. THEN THERE'S LARGE TREES, SO IF THERE WERE TO BE AN INCIDENT, THERE ARE GUYS WOULD BE A GREAT DISADVANTAGE TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE WANT TO. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON, UH, SHOWING THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE NEED IN ADVANCE BEFORE THESE THINGS ARE DEVELOPED AND PUT US IN A DISADVANTAGE TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M JUST SAYING HOMES IN BOTH OF THOSE AND HOOVER HOOVER CROSSING. WE HAD DOUBLE PARKING ALL THE WAY DOWN BOTH SIDES AND CONSTANT. I MEAN OVER THERE AND THEN I LIVED IN THE GREENS FOR A WHILE, IN THE SAME THING. I JUST YEAH, WE ACTUALLY DO SPECIAL TRAINING WITH OUR TRUCKS RIGHT NOW IN THE GREENS BECAUSE IT IS SO DIFFICULT FOR A TRUCK JUST TO MANEUVER THROUGH THERE, LET ALONE SET UP IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT FIRE IN THERE, SO IT'S THEY'RE POSING. THE NEW STYLE OF DEVELOPMENTS ARE PROPOSING GREAT LIFE SAFETY ISSUES FOR US AND MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO DO OUR JOB EFFECTIVELY. ENERGY OF ANY COMMENT ON THE EMERGENCY ONLY ACCESS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT NORTHERN PARCEL. NO I WOULD SAY THAT'S IT LOOKS LIKE IT GIVES US 20 FT ENTRANCE INTO THERE AND THAT THAT APPEARS SUFFICIENT FOR US. UH ONE COMMENT. I DO HAVE ONE LOOK AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT APPARATUS. MANEUVERABILITY FOR THE MCDOWELL WRECKED ENTRANCE THERE THE FIRST RIGHT? IT LOOKS LIKE OUR TRUCKS. THE TAIL END OF OUR TRUCK IS SWINGING OUT REALLY WIDE. THAT'S KIND OF AN ODD ANGLE THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD BE REDRAWN TOWARDS MORE OF A 90 DEGREES AND WORK. WE'RE NOT SWINGING OUT AS MUCH.THANK YOU. AND I HAD JUST ONE OTHER COMMENT AND THAT GOES BACK TO OUR GROSS CITY 2050 PLANNING PROCESS WHICH CALLS OUT THIS THESE PARCELS AS FOR THEIR FUTURE LAND. USE MASS MAP AS SITES DESIGNATED FOR PARKS, OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION. HIGHLIGHTING THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING NATURAL FEATURES ON THIS SITE AND PROVIDING OPEN SPACE TO SERVE HER INCIDENTS. UM CERTAINLY YOU'VE PROVIDED A LITTLE BIT OF OPEN SPACE WITH THE GREEN SPACE IN THE STREAM BASINS AND THE POND. HOWEVER I DON'T FIND THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS LAID OUT BY THE GROVE CITY 2050 PROCESS. AND I WILL BE NOT VOTING TO RECOMMEND IT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL. COUPLE POINTS HERE. ONE IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON THE NORTH SIDE TO PRESERVE OR THE RETENTION BASIN IS TO CREATE A MORE OF A PARKFIELD. AS OPPOSED TO ANY TYPE OF A WET FEATURE WITH WALKING TRAILS. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A COMPONENT OF WHAT YOU MAY BE LOOKING FOR FROM A PARK. LOOK IN THIS GENERAL AREAS WERE USING THAT WORKING WITH STAFF THAT CHINA COME UP WITH THAT AS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION. I'LL BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE THEN TO ALSO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S COMMENTS. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT SOME MEETINGS TO DO SOME WORK WITH THEM. ONE THING EVERYBODY NEEDS THEM UP AND KEEP IN MIND. ONE IS THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WE HAVE PER HOME HERE IS VERY LOW. TYPICALLY, IT'S 1.6. WE DON'T HAVE TYPICALLY HAVE THE TEENAGERS WITH MULTIPLE CARS, SO WE HAVE TWO CAR GARAGE ATTACHED , AS WELL AS TWO SPACES IN EVERY DRIVEWAY. SO WE FIND VERY LITTLE ON STREET PARKING. YOU CAN NEVER SAY IT'S NEVER THERE, BUT ONLY IN TYPICALLY ANY KIND OF PARTY KIND OF THINGS. MAYBE SOME OVERFLOW, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT YOU SEE ARE TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY WITH THE AMOUNT OF ON STREET PARKING. WE TYPICALLY DO NOT SEE THAT SO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. LIKE TO JUST MAKE A NOTE. UM MENTIONED THE CROSSWALK. HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF, UM PERHAPS MAKING THAT A BRIDGE OR DOING SOMETHING SO THAT IT WOULD BE OUT OF THE WAY OF TRAFFIC ALTOGETHER. I THINK YOU KNOW. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE'S PERHAPS SIGHTLINE ISSUES AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE'LL DEFINITELY WANT THE SAFETY OF THEIR STILL SOME ENGINEERING. WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD NOT PUT AN INTERSECTION IN PLACE IS NOT SAFE SUMMER OF THE CROSSWALK. WE THINK THE CROSSWALKS WE UTILIZE THOSE MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A FLASHING LIGHTS.
COME ON, YOU PUSH THE BUTTON, AND TRAFFIC DOES RESPOND. YEAH BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE SIGHTLINES DO WORK, THOUGH, SO RIGHT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. IF I COULD JUST MAKE A COUPLE CLARIFICATIONS REGARDING SOME OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN
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BROUGHT UP. I THINK IT WAS STATED AT THE LAST MEETING REGARDING ROAD WITS AND ARE WORKING WITH JACKSON TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT IS STILL A CONTINUING CONVERSATION, SO WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE INPUT FROM JACKSON TOWNSHIP FIRE, BUT , UM, THOSE THOSE DISCUSSIONS VERY MUCH ARE STILL ONGOING AND MORE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL. IN TERMS OF GROWTH CITY 2050. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY YOUR 2050 THE INTENT OF IDENTIFYING AREAS FOR OPEN SPACE ON AREAS WHERE OPEN SPACE DOES NOT EXIST IS REALLY TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE HOPE TO SEE , UM OPEN SPACE IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF EXPANDING ON OUR RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, PRESERVING NATURAL FEATURES IN THE AREA. IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE PARCEL SPECIFIC. THAT WAS NOT HOW THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE IN TERMS OF HOW THE FUTURE LAND USE MATH WAS COMPILED. SO IT'S REALLY MEANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, A GUIDING DOCUMENT POLICY. SO BY IDENTIFYING THIS SITE, AND THE SITE TO THE SOUTH IS BEING PRESERVATION. WE BY NO MEANS MEANT TO SAY THAT THERE CAN BE NO DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING HERE THAT IT MUST BE PRESERVED AS OPEN SPACE SO WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS CALL ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC OPEN SPACE AVAILABILITY RIGHT NOW, SO ANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN TO PROVIDE MORE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE FOR RESIDENTS AND PRESERVE THE NATURAL FEATURES IN THE AREA. IS REALLY THE INTENT BEHIND THAT FUTURE LAND USE. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION AND I SHOULD JUST CLARIFY. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO STOP THE DEVELOPMENT HERE FOR OPEN AND MAKE DEDICATED OPEN SPACE. BUT I DON'T FEEL THAT THIS PLAN HAS ENOUGH OPEN SPACE IN IT. THE LOTS ARE PARTICULARLY NARROW AND SMALL AND LONG. AND THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF HOUSES PUT TOGETHER IN THIS IN THESE PARCELS. THE LOTS ARE SMALLER THAN THOSE THAT SURROUND THEM. AND I WONDER WHY WE WHY WE DON'T AT LEAST MEET THE NEIGHBORHOOD MINIMUM OF OTHER LOTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE SPACE. FEWER LOTS MORE SPACE DEDICATED TO OPEN AND PARKLAND FEATURES. TO CLARIFY MY COMMENTS OF IT. THEIR RESPECT. WE'RE GOING WITH THAT AND STUFF THAT THE HOMES THAT ARE AROUND THERE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, GUIDED TOUR 55 COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE FULL FAMILY. AND I GUESS WHEN I WHEN I LOOK AT THIS COMPARED TO YOU KNOW, EMPTY NESTERS LIVING THERE AND NOT HAVING NOT WANTING A BUNCH OF GRASS TO CUT AND EVERYTHING. A LOT OF MY FRIENDS ARE TURNED ONTO THESE COPIES. UPCOMING COMMUNITIES LOVE THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE MEANS OF IT THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY DOING AND STUFF THERE, BUT I SEE WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. I JUST THIS THIS WAS TARGETED DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER COMMUNITY AROUND IT. AND THAT WAS WHY I ASKED IF IT WAS 55 IN THE H O A AGREEMENT. BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT THESE DON'T BECOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH LOTS OF YOUNG CHILDREN. MY TAKE ON THAT IS AGAIN WHAT WE'VE GOT A WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ZONING THAT SAYS FLOOR PLANS HOME STYLES, THE H O A DOCUMENT WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO. A MAJOR COMPONENT OF OUR HOMES ARE OUTSIDE LIVING AREA ON THE SIDE OF THE HOME. AND THERE'S ALSO COMMUNITY MAINTENANCE, SO THEY TEND TO HAVE SMALLER YARDS. AS A RESULT. ALL THE MAINTENANCE IS DONE AT ONE TIME. IT'S A VERY UNIFORM LOOK THROUGHOUT WHETHER IT BE THE LANDSCAPING THE GRASS. IT'S A IT'S A REALLY A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONCEPT. THAN A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME BOTH AND LOT SIZE, HOME SIZE FLOOR PLAN, THE AMENITIES EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT THE PASSIVE USE. I KIND OF SKIPPED OVER THAT, BUT ALL AROUND THE PERIMETER OF OUR HOMES. IT'S A PASSIVE USE. EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PART OF A LOT. PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO PUT OUTSIDE ACTIVITY TYPE THINGS, WHETHER IT BE AGAIN BUILDING DECKS OR PUTTING SWING SETS OR WHATEVER NONE OF THAT'S ALLOWED. THANK YOU. SIMPLY SEEN AS SINGLE FAMILY. THOSE ARE ALL PROHIBITED THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS WHY WE DESIGNED OUR COMMUNITIES TO AGAIN MAYBE LOOK AT HIS A LOT SMALLER LOT LARGER HOME FROM A FLOOR PRINT STANDPOINT, FOOTPRINT STANDPOINT , BUT ALL DIVES INTO REALLY A LIFESTYLE COMMUNITY VERSUS JUST A SINGLE FAMILY LIVING. COMMUNITY. YEAH. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. OKAY HEARING THEN WE'RE READY FOR EMOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE. YES. HE JUST YES.PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND 11 23 86 BERRYHILL DRIVE. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT. BY THE FREEWAY ON WHITE ROAD, THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT. BUT WHAT IS IT, BRIAN? I THINK IT'S RIGHT THERE WOULD ENTRANCE I THINK IT
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IS ANYWAY, GOING INTO OUR COMPOUND OR HOMES. RIGHT NOW, WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ON WHITE ROAD FROM 104. AND TRYING TO GET OUT THERE. SOMETIMES WE GOTTA TURN LEFT TO GO AROUND THE BLOCK TO GO RIGHT? SOMETIMES WE GOTTA TURN RIGHT TO GO LEFT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC COMING BY. PUTTING 74 CONDOMS UP THERE. WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE GENERATED FROM THAT, ESPECIALLY RIGHT THERE UNDERNEATH THE FREEWAY. WHERE THEY GOT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SOUTH SIDE. I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT'S JUST GOING TO CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS. NOW, UM IF THEY CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THAT I MEAN, YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA TRAFFIC LIGHT AT MCDOWELL . YOU GOT A TRAFFIC LIGHT, A BUCKEYE PARKWAY. AND WITH WITH MORE VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT. WE'RE GONNA BE STUCK GOING IN AND OUT OF OUR LITTLE COMMUNITY.UM ANOTHER THING, TOO, WITH THESE CONDOS THAT ARE BEING BUILT THERE. GENTLEMEN, SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SIX PARKING SPACES AT THE PARTY HOUSE OR WHATEVER IT IS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING. TO GO TO A CONDO. SELL OUR PLACE. WE GOT AN ACRE AND A HALF BACK THERE. AND WE WANTED TO DOWNSIZE. BUT EVERY TIME WE GO TO A CONDOM THAT YOU GET TWO PARKING SPACES AND CONDOS IN FRONT OF YOUR GARAGE. A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN WE DOWNSIZE. WE TAKE STUFF WITH US. SO THAT MEANS HALF OF OUR GARAGE IS FULL OF STUFF THAT WE CAN'T GET RID OF YET. THIS IS ONE PARKING SPACE.
INSIDE THE GARAGE. OKAY? AND THEN. ONE OUTSIDE BECAUSE WE GOT TO LEAVE ONE CAR OR TRUCK OUT THERE. I THINK IT WAS YOU OR I FORGET SAID ABOUT ELDERLY PEOPLE COMING FOR PARTIES OR SOMETHING STUFF LIKE THAT. WHEN YOU GO IN ANY TIME, THERE'S ANYMORE EVEN OVER AT RACETRACK. WHERE'S OUR WORDS? ARE GRANDCHILDREN COMING TO VISIT US. THERE'S NO PARKING? THAT'S IT, AND LIKE I SAID, YOU ONLY GET ONE SOMETIMES. SO IF WE'RE HAVING A PARTY OR VISITATION CHRISTMAS THANKSGIVING. WHATEVER. WHAT DID HE PARK? BECAUSE ON A LOT OF THESE PLACES THEY ONLY HAVE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK ON THE STREET. SO WHAT DO YOU PARK ? HOW DO HOW DO WE CONTINUE OUR LIFE? HOW DO WE ENJOY OUR LIFE. WITH. ALL THIS STUFF. I MEAN, GREEN SPACE IS GREAT. BUT CHRIST , I'M 73 YEARS OLD. I'M NOT WALKING OUT THERE IN GREEN SPACE ANYMORE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COME IN THERE. TO MOVE IN. THERE ARE OLDER PEOPLE. AND. I MEAN, I CAN SEE HAVING GREEN SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO USE IT. WHY HAVE IT ALL MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE IN THERE? SO THAT'S MY POINT. IT'S JUST THATA LOT OF PROBLEMS. LOT OF EVEN ON EVEN ON MCDOWELL. HERE. WHAT IS THAT TERRA OR SOMETHING? THAT STREET RIGHT THERE. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ENTRANCE TERROR RIGHT ACROSS AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO IN THIS WAY TO CONDOMINIUMS YET TRAFFIC COMING THIS WAY DOWN RIGHT HERE AND YOU'VE GOT A TRAFFIC LIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO COST A LOT OF TRAFFIC GEARS RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE LINED UP. AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THEM. MCDOWELL HAVE SOME CONCERN FOR THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO MENTION? COMPONENTS THERE. UM SOME OF THEM KIND OF DISCUSSED ALREADY.
OBVIOUSLY WE STILL HAVE TO DO MORE WORK ON THE TRAFFIC SIDE NOW ON WHITE ROBE AND MCDOWELL AND SOME OF THEM, SO WE RECOGNIZE OURSELVES SOME WORK TO DO HERE. UM AND FROM THE STANDPOINT OF TRIPS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE AGE TARGET. BUT EVEN WHETHER WE AGE TARGET ARRANGE RESTRICT, WE HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF FOLKS ARE TRAFFIC IS MUCH LOWER THAN MUCH HIGHER DENSITIES WOULD BE HERE THAN WHAT WE YOU KNOW FROM LIKE A SUPPORT AND LOWER DENSITIES WITH NON AGE TARGET THAN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRODUCE WITH A DENSITY OF C. SO WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME WORK STYLE TO KIND OF ANALYZE AND ESPECIALLY WHAT SIGHT DISTANCES, BUT, UM, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE GONNA BE CONCERNED, BUT BUT WE THINK THERE'S WE GET FARTHER IN THE IN THE PROCESS HERE WILL HAVE SOLID ANSWERS TO GET EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT. YES. GET HIM, SIR. CAN GET TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. OKAY. GPS IT'S A DEAD WE LIVE AT THE DEAD END. OKAY PEOPLE COMING IN AND USING THE GPS TO GO BUCKET PARKWAY DON'T COME IN
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THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT STILL SHOWS THAT AT THE DEAD END. IT'S AN OPEN STREET. SO WE GET PEOPLE COMING IN THERE PULLING IN OUR DRIVEWAYS, BACKING UP, MAKING U TURNS AND GOING BACK OUT AGAIN. AND THAT'S AND THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FREEWAY WERE VERY HEALINGS. OKAY BECAUSE OUR LAND BUT UP TO THE FREEWAY. AND THOSE PEOPLE THEY'RE UNDER WHO'S GOING TO LIVE ON THIS SIDE BY THE FREEWAY? WE GET NOISE. I GOT AN ACRE AND A HALF AND WE STILL SIT DOWN ON OUR PATIO. I'M STILL GETTING NOISE AND HEAR CARS GOING UP AND DOWN THE FREEWAY RACING MOTORCYCLES, THE AMBULANCE THINGS LIKE THAT. IMAGINE WHAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIVE IN HIS CONDOS RIGHT NEXT TO THE FREEWAY. HE'S GONNA HEAR I DON'T. I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S A MARKETING WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IF THAT'S THE DEVELOPERS DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DESIGN PRELIMINARY.WE'RE NOT NOT AT THAT STAGE, BUT THAT'S IF PEOPLE CHOOSE TO BUY A CONDO THERE. THAT'S REALLY THEIR CONCERN, NOT YOURS, GIVING YOU MY POINT OF VIEW LIKE YOU SEE YOUR POINT OF VIEW. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? OKAY HEARING NONE WERE READY FOR A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE STIPULATE THAT ALL STREETS BETWEEN THE EIGHT FT WIDE.
THE COMMISSION CAN. ATTACHED STIPULATIONS OR CONDITIONS TO AN APPROVAL. WE JUST NEED A SECOND.
WE NEED TO HAVE A SECOND THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT. AND CAN I INTERJECT? JUST JUST ON THE ROAD TO CLEAR THEIR FINAL DEVELOPED PLANE. DOES IT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THIS BOARD WITH ALL THE DETAIL? I GUESS THAT'S THE BEST ONE OF OUR WE'RE VERY EARLY IN THIS PROCESS. THERE'S A LOT MORE STEPS TO GO. WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF QUESTIONS TODAY. WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE A APPROVAL TODAY OF THE PRELIMINARY KNOWN THAT DOES NOT GUARANTEE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL. AT LEAST WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS. ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. I GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE'VE HEARD TODAY CONCERNS AND FOR TODAY. AS A PART OF THE NEXT STEPS VERSUS HAVING SOMETHING TODAY THAT WE CAN'T REALLY REACT TO. WE'D APPRECIATE APPROVAL TODAY KNOWN THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME WORK TO DO TO GET FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL. WE'RE WAITING FOR A SECOND AND THIS IS JUST FOR THE AMENDMENT.
NONE. YEAH HERE. YEAH I THINK THAT MOTION FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. SO NOW WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE PROPOSAL IS PRESENTED. I MAKE THE MOTION. THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL. UM, PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR ITEM ONE TO OUR CITY COUNCIL. AGAIN. SO. NO. CHAIR. OYSTER? YES. MR FARNSWORTH? YES. MR TITUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK WE HAVE WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS. DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT? THANK YOU KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WITH THAT, BEING THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.