Nov 08, 2022 Planning Commission

[A. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]

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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE GROWTH CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. OKAY CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. IT'S 1 30. WE COULD START WITH THE ROLL. CALL MR ROCK. HERE, MR FREE PRESIDENT. GERALD OYSTER HERE, MR. FARNSWORTH MR TITUS. IF YOU JOIN US FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE STAND.

[C. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES – October 4, 2022]

I JUST ASK WHEN YOUR AGENDA ITEM IS CALLED IF THE APPLICANT COULD STEP UP TO THE PODIUM IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY WRITE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN IF YOU COULD ALSO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AT THAT POINT, IF YOU COULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM, THEN THE CITY WILL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. AND THEN THERE'LL BE TIME FOR US TO DISCUSS AFTER

[1. APPLICATION: St. John’s Lutheran Church – (Certificate of Appropriateness)]

HELLO MY NAME'S BUTCH MYERS. I'M HERE MEMBER OF THE CHURCH. HI I'M CINDY DE MESA AND I'M WITH MCKNIGHT GROUP. UM 3351 MCDOWELL ROAD HERE IN GARDEN CITY. THANK YOU. AND MR MYERS. DID YOU HAPPEN TO WRITE DOWN YOUR ADDRESS MY PERSONAL OR THE CHURCHES, EITHER.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF OUR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. CONSTRUCT AN ADDITION ON THE REAR OF SAINT JOHN'S LUTHERAN CHURCH IN COLUMBIA STREET WITHIN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AREA. IF THE APPLICATION IS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY PERMITS. PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION. THE PROPOSED EDITION WILL BE 2725 SQUARE FEET AND LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE EXISTING CHURCH BUILDING. MATERIAL STATE THAT THE SPACE WILL CREATE A LOBBY ACCESSIBLE RESTROOM AREA AND ALLOW FOR THE ADDITION OF AT LEAST ONE HANDICAP LIFT TO PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS FOR ATTENDEES. THE ADDITION WILL BE TWO STORIES AND MATCH THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. A DRIVE UNDER CANOPY HAS ALSO PROPOSED IN THE PARKING AREA AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING. THE EXTERIOR FINISH MATERIALS WILL MATCH THOSE USED ON THE LISTING BUILDING AND INCLUDE BRICKS, BLOOD FACED CMU AND LIMESTONE ACCENTS. STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF MR TICKET OF APPROPRIATENESS. APPLICATION AS THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL BE DESIGNED TO INTEGRATE WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTURE AND EXTERIOR FINISH MATERIALS. THEREFORE AFTER VIEW CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS ESTIMATED. IF WE COULD JUST PAUSE FOR A MOMENT . I THINK WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. NORMALLY WE'D HAVE SOME SCHEMATICS OF, UM BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALREADY ON THE SCREEN. SO ONE SECOND, PLEASE.

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THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST TO COMMENT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED MINISTRY HERE IN GROUPS CITY. FOR ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT, SO YOU KNEW HANDS. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH EMOTION HERE. I MAKE THE MOTION. THE APPLICATION NUMBER ONE ST JOHN'S LUTHERAN. SURE CERTIFICATE REPROACHMENT FOR RECOMMENDATIONS OR CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. ONE SECOND ROLL CALL. MR FARNSWORTH. YES, MR FREE? YES. CHAIR. OYSTER? YES. MR TITUS? YES, MR ROCK? YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM

[2. APPLICATION: Beulah Park Subarea G – Plat (Amendment)]

COLUMBUS OHIO, 43231.

THE APPLICANTS PROPOSING TO RE PLATT PULA PARK SOME ENERGY TO CREATE A NEW LOT. CITY COUNCIL ACCEPTED THE PLAT OF VILLA PARK SUBWAY, OR G AT THE JANUARY 3RD MEETING WITH ORDINANCE SEE 77 21. THIS PLAN INCLUDED FOR LOTS DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY ACCESS EASEMENT AND SANITARY EASEMENTS.

THE REVISED PLAYER CREATES TWO NEW LOTS OF PREVIOUSLY OUT OF PREVIOUSLY PLANTED LIVE TO 25.

REPLACE THE EXISTING HOME AT THE CORNER OF PARK STREET AND ELM STREET ON ITS OWN LINE. NO ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS RIGHT AWAY, OR RESERVE AREAS ARE DEDICATED WITH THIS PLAT. AFTER REVIEWING CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PLAN, AS SUBMITTED. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS AT

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[3. APPLICATION: Meadow Grove Estates North #9 – Plat (Amendment)]

MR FREE? YES, SURE. OYSTER? YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. CASTRO

[4. APPLICATION: Castro Rose Avenue – Preliminary Development Plan]

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THE FRONT OF THE HOME IS SHOWN TO INCLUDE SHUTTERS AND A RAILING ALONG THE FRONT PORCH.

ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS WILL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE ZONING TEXTURE AND THE REZONING PROCESS AND WILL ENSURE THAT PROPOSED TO HIM WAS IN CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE POST TWO STORY CARRIAGE HOUSE GARAGE WILL CONSIST OF A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH AN 873 SQUARE FOOT. APARTMENT ON THE SECOND STORY. THE GARAGE WILL MEASURE 27 FT EIGHT INCHES FROM GRADE TO PEAK OF THE ROOF.

GARAGE DOORS ARE PROPOSAL ON THE NORTH ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE , PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE ALLEY ALONG THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. BOTH PROPOSED STRUCTURES WILL BE FINISHED WITH GRAY VINYL BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING, VINYL SOFFITS MOVIE PAINTED AN OFF WHITE COLOR. STANDARDS THAT WILL ENSURE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS APPROPRIATE. ANY CHARACTER WITH THE BUILT CHARACTER OF THIS ROUND NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE CREATED DURING THE P U D PROCESS. AND THE PROJECT CAN MEET ALL APPLICABLE BEAUTY STANDARDS. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO IN LINE.

WITH THE GROWTH CITY 2050 COMMUNITY PLAN AND MEETS ALL APPLICABLE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

THEREFORE AFTER REVIEWING CONSIDERATION, DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN ESTIMATE. MR CASTRO. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? WE COVERED IT ALL. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND YOU MENTIONED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE 5.3 SPACING. BETWEEN YOU SAY THAT IS CODE.

TYPICALLY CODE FOR RESIDENTIAL REQUIRES SIX FT SETBACKS BUT NOTING THE SIZE OF THE LOT AS WELL AS EXISTING CONDITIONS IN NEIGHBORHOOD OR MANY OF THE EXISTING HOMES DO NOT MEET THAT SIX FT REQUIREMENT. WHERE OKAY WITH THE PROPOSED SETBACKS HAS SHOWN AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ON THE SECOND BUILDING, AND THAT'S ON THE CARRY. CHARLES SO THERE'S ONLY AND THIS IS MORE FORM OF FIRE STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW AN ACCESS SINCE IT'S AN ALLEY, YOU KNOW, 15 FT RIGHT AWAY. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEONE LIVING THERE. CORRECT? YES. AND I THINK MOST OF THE THINGS ON THAT ALLEY OR MEAT MAINLY SHEDS. THEY'RE SEXTON APARTMENTS AND GARAGES. ON THAT ALLEY.

EVERYONE'S WAITING FOR ACCESS FOR FIRE. YOU KNOW, 15 FT. FOR ANYONE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE. BUT IF IT'S SERVICING SAXTON APARTMENT BUILDINGS. OFF THAT WHAT'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE SUBJECT. AND JIM. YOU MAY KNOW TOO DON'T THEY NEED LIKE 20 SOME FEET? FOR ACCESS. THEY LIKE TO HAVE YOU KNOW, IN THE ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE IN THE 26 FT WAVES. IT'S WHAT THEY'RE LIKE IN THE HEAD. BUT WITH THAT ALLEYS ALL OVER THIS SMALLER PART OF GROUPS. PROBABLY VERY GREAT.

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THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO HAVE THE FRONT UNIT JUST A SINGLE COLLEGE HOUSE AND STILL HAVE THAT CARRY CHANCE AT THE REAR. IS THAT BY HAVING TO RESIDENTS ON THAT LOT THAT MAKE IT FINANCIALLY. IT MAKES IT FINANCIALLY MORE OF A FINANCIAL CHALLENGE BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING THREE RENTAL INCOMES DOWN TO CHANNEL. AND THE DESIGN OF THE DUPLEX ON THE FIRST FLOOR. IS FOR ELDERLY ACCESSIBLE. UNITS, WIDER DOORWAYS WIDER HALLWAY. THERE ARE OTHER HOUSES ON THE STREET THAT HAVE DRIVEWAYS THAT. IS THAT MUCH OF THE FRONT YARD? WHAT KIND OF USING WITH TWO DRIVEWAYS. YES TYPICALLY THE OTHER HOUSE HOMES ON PLUM ROSE AVENUE. THEY DO HAVE DRIVEWAYS FOR ANOTHER HOUSES, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY ONE PER UNIT. I THINK MR CASTRO WAS GOING FOR ONE PER UNIT AS WELL. AND THAT'S WHY THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO SHOWN. BE A CONSIDERATION TO MOVE THEM. CLOSER TOGETHER. TO GIVE MORE SIDE YARD SETBACK. INITIALLY THERE WERE. RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, BUT WE REQUESTED SPACE THEM OUT TO GET MORE GREEN SPACE IN THE FRONT YARD BECAUSE WHEN THEY WERE TOGETHER, THERE WAS EVEN LESS THAN THERE CURRENTLY IS. SO BY SPREADING THEM OUT. WE WERE TRYING TO OPTIMIZE LANDSCAPING AND CRASS GREEN SPACE CIRCUIT. I GUESS I'LL JUST ASK, UM JONES QUESTION A LITTLE

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BACK BUILDING TO THE FRONT OF THE LOTS OF LOOK. FROM THE STREET SIDED LOOK LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, BASICALLY, AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD NEED SOME TWEAKING TO BE. YOU KNOW, APPEALING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK LIKE IT FITS IN. BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DOUBLE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE. THE AESTHETICS DO NOT LEND ITSELF BEING A MONO ROOF. TO MOVING IT TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE OR TO THE FRONT OF THE STREET. WHAT WE DID TRY AND DO WAS MAKE THE FRONT PORCH LOOKED LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY WITH A SINGLE FRONT ENTRANCE. VERY SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE OTHER DUPLEXES AND HOUSES. IN THE OLD PART OF GROSS CITY. I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE DUPLEX SONG. PARK STREET THAT'S BEING BUILT THAT HAS A, UM SINGLE FRONT PORCH ON IT. AND THERE WAS ONE ON GREAT OR PARK STREET HAS BEEN EXISTING, SO WE TRIED TO MAKE THE FRONT OF IT. LOOK LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY. UM. ONE OPTION WE COULD DO IS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO EXTERIOR DOORS. HAVE A SINGLE ENTRY DOOR. AND HAVE THE TWO DOORS HIDDEN, LEFT OR RIGHT.

ENTER THE UNIT. THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD DISCUSSED. WITH THE ARCHITECT BEFORE. WITH THE SPLIT DRIVEWAYS. THERE'S HE REALLY HAS NO ON STREET PARKING IN FRONT. THAT LONG. ROOM THERE , EVEN WITH THE DRIVERS SPLIT TO PUT A VEHICLE. FROM STREET PARKING. GETTING TOO TIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFIC MEASUREMENT IS BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAY SPACING. I WANT TO SAY IT'S 12 OR 15. SO I MEAN, THERE COULD BE ONE. YEAH. BUT THE DRIVEWAYS ARE LONG ENOUGH THAT YOU WOULD STACK TWO CARS. YES ANOTHER REASON THAT WE DID RECOMMEND THAT THEY BE SHIFTED TO THE SIDE TO WAS AGAIN TO MATCH THE CHARACTER AND MOST OF THE HOMES ALONG ROADS. THE DRIVEWAY IS MORE TO THE SIDE OF THE HOME. SO YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PROVIDED TO MR CASTRO AND WERE TO TRY AND KEEP THE SAME CHARACTER WITH THE EXISTING EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE STREETSCAPE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. OKAY? SAYING NO HANDS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH EMOTION. IF I IF I COULD SHARE BEFORE I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP FOR THE RECORD THAT, UM, STAFF HAS RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS FROM AREA RESIDENTS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU WITH QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOTED THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THESE COMMENTS AND WE WILL MAKE THEM PART OF THE RECORD AND ATTACH THEM TO THE MINUTES FOR THIS MEETING. HAVE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM? THE UM, HOUSE DIRECTLY TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY. UM WE HAVE A SIGNED DOCUMENT THAT STATES SINCE THERE CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE NORMAL SETBACK. THEY WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTION TO US DOING THE SAME. OTHER THAN THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANY OTHER RESIDENTS OR TENANTS IN THE AREA. WHICH ADDRESS WOULD THAT BE? THERE'S

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THIS ONE MOMENT.

DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S FOUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SPOKEN, UM THAT ARE YOU KNOW, OPPOSED FOR VARIOUS REASONS, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT. BRING THAT UP. WILL I BE RECEIVING A COPY OF THOSE SKIN? OKAY? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR STAFF. IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING HISTORY.

THAT LOT WAS PLOTTED IN 1923. IS THERE EVER BEEN? RESIDENTS ON THAT AND SAID THAT THERE IS A VACANT NOT SO LONG LOCK FOR APPROACHING 100 YEARS. I'M PULLING UP THE AUDITOR DATA RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF THERE WERE EVER IMPROVEMENTS MADE ON THAT PROPERTY. I IT SHOWS NO DATA FOR IMPROVEMENTS. I DO THINK THAT'S FAIRLY COMMON, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORE HISTORIC AREAS. I'M JUST AS INFILL HAS OCCURRED, AND WE FACE A LOT OF THESE SIMILAR CHALLENGES WITH SETBACKS AND WITH A LOT OF THE INFILL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE HISTORIC FUEL A SUBDIVISION AS WELL, SO I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING. AND YOU KNOW FOR THE TOWN CENTER. WE WANT MORE RESIDENCES, SO BUT IN ORDER TO DO SO MUCH LIKE MANY OF THE SIMILAR APPLICATIONS WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY IT DOES REQUIRE THE PD JUST BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A ZONING DISTRICT THAT CURRENTLY FITS THIS, UM, STYLE OF HOME. HERE BEFORE WE MOVED MOTION. I JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS APPLICATION. I THINK IT'S TOO MANY RESIDENTS ON TOO SMALL A PLOT. I THINK I COULD BE OKAY WITH THE TWO BUILDINGS AT THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WAS JUST A GARAGE. AT A THIRD RESIDENCE BACK THERE WITH ALL THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING IS JUST TOO TIGHT AND IN MY OPINION. I'M GOING ON. THAT IS WHAT IS THE MINIMUM PARKING SPACES REQUIRED PER DWELLING. I'VE. BECAUSE THIS IS A P U D YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE'RE WE ARE SORT OF WRITING WHAT WE FEEL IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. I BELIEVE THEY'RE THERE TO HAVE A ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE.

I'M UNDER THE R TWO. BUILT CONDITIONS. MANY OF THE LOTS IN THE AREA DO NOT MEET THAT CURRENTLY, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE FELT THAT THE PUDU WAS THE MORE APPROPRIATE WAY HERE. UM I BELIEVE THE ONE MIGHT REQUIRE ONE COVERED, ONE UNCOVERED. PARKING SPACE AND MULTI FAMILIES 2.5 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. SO WE'RE KIND OF MIXING A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIETY OF STANDARDS HERE BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO TAILOR IT TO THE SPECIFIC CHARACTER OF ROSE AVENUE IN THE HISTORIC LOTS AND HISTORIC NATURE. WE'RE CLOSE TO THE OVER THE TWO PER DWELLING RIGHT NOW. RIGHT HEARING THAT IS ALREADY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE AHEAD. RIGHT? COMING FORWARD WITH EMOTION. CHERYL MOVED THE. WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE CASTRO ROSE AVENUE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS SUBMITTED. A SECOND. COOL. CHAIR OYSTER. NO.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU. THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. OKAY. BRANCH DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT. GOOD

[5. APPLICATION: Buckeye Ranch – Development Plan (Amendment)]

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LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS SHALL BE ADDED TO THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE INTERNAL PARKING SPACES. THE NORTHERN PARKING LOT. TREES ARE REQUIRED IN ALL PENINSULAS WITHIN THE PROPOSED PARKING, AIR PARKING AREA AND 12 INCH CALIBER TREES REQUIRED FOR EACH 50 LINEAR FEET OF THE PROPOSED BASIN. OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD. JASON HARRELL WITH HAROLD STEVENSON 20 SOUTH. I'M SENT STREET. IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS TO THE CITY IS GOING TO OFFER A LOT BRILLIANT HANSE THIS AREA. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS ARE PLANNING COMMISSION. I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAVE A NUMBER OF FRIENDS HAS BEEN PART OF YOUR HISTORY. AND WE SO APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU FOLKS DO GREAT WORK. YEAH IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO LEAD THE BARKER RANCH. THANKS. I WAS HOPING YOU COULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE INTERIOR ROADS A LITTLE BIT AS SOME OF THE EXISTING ROADS LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE A BUILDING NOW PUT ON TOP OF THEM. SO WILL THERE BE ANY WAY TO CIRCUMNAVIGATE THE PROPERTY, OR IS IT ALL? GOING TO STUB OUT ON THE AT THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. UM DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE BUCKEYE RANCH, AND WHAT THEY DO. THEY DO HAVE SECURITY CONCERNS, AND THEY'VE GOT FENCING AROUND A LARGE PORTION OF THE SITE. UM, WE DO HAVE THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROAD THAT COMES AROUND AND TERMINATES IN FRONT OF THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. AND OUR HOPE IS THAT IN THE FUTURE THAT THIS WILL EXTEND ONTO A FUTURE ROADWAY THAT WILL COME THROUGH THE PROPERTY. SO WE'RE KIND OF SETTING IT UP FOR FUTURE. AFFECTIONS CURRENTLY THERE IS A ROAD THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND. UM, THAT'S UM DOWN ACCURATE TODAY WHEN YOU COME AROUND AND THE LOWER END OF THIS PICTURE WHERE IT SAYS BUILDING ADDITION THAT ACTUALLY ENTERS INTO THE CAMPUS, SO A VISITOR COULD NOT DRIVE IN AND GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY, UM, WITHOUT ACCESSING OUR CANVAS. HYPE POINT IS MORE ABOUT SAFETY SERVICES BEING ABLE TO GET IN AND YOU KNOW WHICH WAY DO THEY GO? I'M ALSO THE FOLLOW UP. QUESTION IS ARE WE CERTAIN THAT THE ROUNDABOUT IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED ADMINISTRATION BUILDING WILL BE ABLE TO TURN A LARGE FIRE ENGINE TRUCK IF IT NEEDED TO YES, WE HAVE THE TURNING TEMPLATES FOR FIRE TRUCK AND WE PUT IT ON THERE AND THAT WAS PART OF OUR SUSPENSION. OH JUST ALSO ADD THAT THERE'S AN EMERGENCY GATE AT THE FRONT END OF THE PROPERTY, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FIRE TRUCKS SO THAT THEY CAN ACCESS THE CAMPUS FROM THE FRONT AS WELL. THE OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. RIGHT HEARING NONE. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION. HERE. I MAKE THE MOTION. FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE RANGE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT. WITH THE THREE STIPULATIONS RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL TO OUR CITY COUNCIL. I SECOND CALL. MR FREE. YES. CHAIR. ROYSTER? YES. MR TITUS? YES. MR ROCK? YES, MR FARNSWORTH? YES. HMM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SIX FOR THESE FROZEN CUSTARD AND STEAK BURGERS,

[6. APPLICATION: Freddy’s Frozen Custard & Steakburgers – Special Use Permit (Drive-thru)]

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JONATHAN EVANS WITH EVANS ENGINEERING. 42 40 AIRPORT ROAD . CINCINNATI OHIO 45226. YEAH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THROUGH AT A PROPOSED 3000 SQUARE FOOT. FREDDIE'S FROZEN CUSTARD AND STATE BURGER RESTAURANT AT 41. OH, EIGHT PARKWAY. THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED IN 2001 AS PART OF THE, UH, PART OF THE BUCKEYE OR PART OF THE PARKWAY CENTER. SOUTH REZONING FROM S F 12 P U D R

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AND JUST I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY FLEXIBILITY. WE THINK WE'VE GOT A WONDERFUL, YOU KNOW, ATTRACTIVE BUILDING HERE TO REALLY NICE PROJECT AND PRODUCT THAT WE'RE PUTTING HERE AND, UM JUST ONE OF THE FLEXIBILITY ON THAT. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A WHOLE LOT, MAYBE JUST UP TO SIX FT INSTEAD OF FIVE FT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER MENU OF WORDS THAT WOULD EXCEED THE STANDARD.

NONE IN THE PARKWAY CENTER AREA. YOUR PART PARKWAY CENTER EAST AREA. WE'LL TALK THROUGH IT HERE. ALL OF US. YOU QUESTIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION OR COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE AS FAR AS THE MENU BOARD. I WOULD JUST OFFER THAT I WOULD STICK WITH THE TEXT AS WRITTEN AND STICK WITH THE FIVE FT HYPE. JUST FOR THE CONSISTENCY PURPOSE. AND WHAT WHILE I'M AT IT, I DO WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR HAVING TOO MANY BOARD OR TO ORDER KIOSKS. UM THAT SEEMS TO BE THE COMING TREND FOR FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS AND HELPING MOVIE PATRONS THROUGH QUICKER. IT IS RIGHT.

THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE THAT THERE BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT TOO MANY CARS STACKING AND BACKING OUT ONTO THE ACCESS FOR IT BEHIND THERE. MY ONLY QUESTION IS ON JUST GOING TO THROW THE TRAFFIC FLOW. WHAT YOU HAVE WITH YOU KNOW THE DRIVE THROUGH. WE DO HAVE A

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ACROSS FROM THE FROM AMC AND SO FORTH. YEAH IT DOESN'T AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, HOW WE SET IT UP, WE DID TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT TO YOU WERE TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE IN AND THEY HAVE TO WRAP AROUND THE BUILDING FIRST. THAT CIRCLE AROUND THE COUNTER CLOCK BY FASHION, AND THEY REALLY QUEUE UP WITHIN THE WITHIN THE LIGHT ITSELF. UM, AND WE TRIED TO MAKE THOSE DR ISLES PRETTY WIDE TOO. BUT THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB MAKING IT GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH. AND YOU KNOW THE REALITY. THINK WHAT EVERYONE FINDS OUT IS IF THE LINE'S RIDICULOUSLY LONG PEOPLE JUST CHOOSE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN STACK PROBABLY I WOULD TAKE A GOOD 20 OR 30 CARS IN THERE BEFORE IT STARTS, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUT THE ACCESS DRIVE, WHICH IS POSSIBLE MAXIMUM CAPACITY. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE SHOW HERE REASONABLY, YOU KNOW. QUITE A FEW. THE QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SEEING NONE WERE READY FOR A MOTION. HERE. I WOULD MOVE. WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX FREDDY'S FROZEN CUSTARD IN STATE BURGERS.

ESPECIALLY USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THROUGH WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE MENU BOARD NOT EXCEED BY FEET IN HYPE. A SECOND. CALL. MR BARNES WORD. MR PRIK OYSTER. MR TITUS? YES, MR ROCK. YES. ALRIGHT READY FOR PART TWO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. FREDDY'S FROZEN CUSTARD AND

[7. APPLICATION: Freddy’s Frozen Custard & Steakburgers – Final Development Plan]

FRIDAY'S FROZEN CUSTARD AND STEAK BURGERS AT 41. OH, EIGHT. BUCKEYE PARKWAY. THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED AS PART OF THE PARKWAY CENTER SOUTH REZONING. FROM AS F 12 P U. D R THE PROPOSED OR PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE LOST WEIGHT FOR A 1.158 ACRE TRACT OUT OF A 5.256 TRACT AND. 2022 PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IS FOR THE FREDDY'S RESTAURANT. PROPOSED RESTAURANT IS LOCATED ON THE 1.158 ACRE OUT PARCEL OF PARKWAY CENTER EAST AND WE'LL HAVE TO 20 FT WIDE ACCESS CURB CUTS OFF OF THE INTERIOR SHOPPING CENTER DRIVE ONE ENTRY ONLY AND ONE EXIT ON EXIT ONLY 3000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WILL BE LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE, WITH DR ISLES WRAPPING AROUND THE BUILDING. THE SITE HAS 42 PARKING SPACES PROPOSED ON THE OUTER PORTIONS OF THE SITE AND EXCEEDS THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF PARKING OF 24 SPACES PER CODE.

RESTAURANT IS PROPOSING TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR SEATING. AREA WITH THREE ROUNDTOP TABLES INTO SQUARE TO TOP TABLES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING BUG EYED PARKWAY, THE OUTDOOR DINING AREA WILL BE COVERED BY AN AWNING SUPPORTED BY BRICK BRICK COLUMNS THAT MATCHED THE BUILDING, ALONG WITH A BLACK IRON RAILING AND FOR DECORATIVE BARD'S PLACE BETWEEN THE BRICK COLUMNS TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FROM THE DRIVE FILES. PROPOSED TABLES ARE CURRENTLY REDDISH BROWN STONE WITH PEDAL STYLE. TOP ALL TABLES AND CHAIRS SHOULD BE BLACK TO MEET THE OVERALL DESIGN STANDARDS OF PARKWAY CENTER. THE ZONING TEXTS FOR PARKWAY CENTER APPROVED IN 2001 WITH ORDINANCE CITY 71. OH ONE STATES AT ALL SEEING SHALL BE BLACK TO MEET DEAL ROLL STANDARDS. THE PROPOSED BUILDING WILL BE 3027 SQUARE FEET AND MEASURE A MAXIMUM OF 25 FT IN HEIGHT AT THE HEART OF THE HIGHEST POINT. AND BE FINISHED WITH BRICK WHEN VARIOUS SHADES OF RED. PROPOSED LANDSCAPING IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH CODE. AND MEETS THE PERIMETER SCREENING FOR THE PARKING LOT, ALONG WITH ORNAMENTAL TREES ON ALL OF THE I , THE ISLANDS OF THE PARKING LOT SERVICE STRUCTURE, SCREENING OF THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AND WALL MOUNTED MECHANICAL SCREENING WILL BE WILL BE PROVIDED, INCLUDING SEVERAL MENTAL LANDSCAPING AND SHRUBS AND

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AFTER REVIEWING CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS. THE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA SHALL UTILIZE BLACK CHAIRS AND TABLES TO MEET THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF PARKWAY CENTER. LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS. UH NO , WE DON'T HAVE ANY. WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF REPORT AND WE'VE WORKED HARD TO TRY TO AGAIN CREATE A NICE, ATTRACTIVE BUILDING HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE FURNITURE PACKAGE WOULD HAVE BEEN STANDARD FROM WHAT THEY WANT TO DO A NICE, DURABLE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, POLISHED LOOK, BUT THEY'VE LET ME KNOW, THINKING SOMEHOW COMPLY WITH IT STANDARD THAT'S NEEDED. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. YES, I HAD ONE. COMMENTER. SEE IF THERE'S POTENTIAL TWO. GET TO YOUR BUILDING WALKING. IF YOU'RE COMING FROM OVER BUCKET PARKWAY OR OVER IN THE PINNACLE AREA. YOU GOTTA WALK UP BUCKEYE PARKWAY AND TURNED DOWN THE SIDE ROAD THERE THAT ENTRY ROAD. AND THEN OVER TO YOUR CURB. IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE YOUR SIDEWALK STRAIGHT MORE OR LESS TO THE WEST AND HIT THE SIDEWALK RIGHT IN FRONT OF BUCKET PARKWAY BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WALKERS ARE COMING THAT WAY, THEY'RE GONNA SHORTCUT THAT ANGLE ANYWAY, AND THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO ENTER YOUR PROPERTY FROM THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER. IF THEIR BICYCLE WRITERS OR FAMILIES WALKING OR WHATEVER . I THINK YOU'LL FIND HIM. BOOM. WE'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR LANDSCAPE OR DROPPING OVER THE CURB. I JUST THINK IT IF YOU YOUR WALKWAY OFF A BUCKEYE PARKWAY, THE MORE APPROPRIATE OFF THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER. YEAH YOU KNOW FOR US, IT'S STARTUP.

COST FACTOR, ANYTHING I MEAN EFFECTS. WHAT WAS THE TIME? SURE WE GET THERE. I THINK THERE'S A MOUNTING THROUGH THERE. THERE ARE SOME ESTABLISHED LANDSCAPING THROUGH THERE FOR SURE. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PICK A SPOT THAT PROBABLY WAS A LITTLE MORE ACCESSIBLE POSSIBLE. COME IN AT A LITTLE BIT OF AN ANGLE. MAYBE THAT, OKAY? THE STAFF TO ROUTINE THAT SIDEWALK WHERE YOU'RE BIGGER FOOT TRAFFIC AND BICYCLE TRAFFIC MIGHT BE COMING FROM. THE REASON STAFF WAS OKAY WITH THIS LOCATIONS BECAUSE ONCE YOU ENTER THE SITE, IT MINIMIZES THE AMOUNT OF DR ISLES AND DRIVE LINES YOU WOULD NEED TO CROSS THROUGH. UM AND MAKES A KIND OF THE SHORTEST POINT OF DISTANCE TO THAT THE SEATING AREA. THAT'S WHERE WE WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT LOCATION. THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER SIMILAR RESTAURANTS THAT WE'VE RECENTLY HAVE COME BEFORE US ALONG THIS STRIP. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY COME IN FROM THE SIDE OR FROM OKAY PARKWAY DIRECTLY. THE TEXT REQUIRES SPACES TO COME OFF OF BUT BY PARKWAY UM. BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE, JUST BASED ON THE SITE LAYOUT IN THE LOCATION UM WE FELT THIS WAS INAPPROPRIATE SPOT AND FOR AND. DEVELOPMENTS FURTHER SOUTH WILL HAVE THAT ACCESS OFF BUCKEYE PARKWAY. THEIR SITES. GO BACK TO STRAIGHT OFF THE BUCKEYE PERCOLATE THE OTHER SITES. THIS IS THE ONLY STATE FOR MAKING WILL PASS THE PROPERTY. YEAH THIS ONE'S GOT THE CORNER KIND OF TWO THERE SOA LITTLE V CUT OUT THERE BETWEEN TWO PARKING SPOTS AND THEN THE ANGLE PARKING SPOTS. IT SEEMED TO ME THAT MIGHT BE GOOD PLACE TO RELOCATE THIS. KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER. RESTAURANTS AND GIVE ACCESS DIRECTLY OFF A BUCKEYE PARKWAY.

YES. THAT WORKS WITH YOU. AGAIN. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. COUNCIL COMMISSION PREFERS THAT'S OKAY WITH US. WE JUST HAVE YOU WORKED WITH STAFF AND HAVE YOUR WALKING IN SINCE COMING OFF BUCKET PARTLY PROPER COME UNDER. STIPULATION ONE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE'S GET ANYTHING. WIZARD ONE. OKAY, NUMBER TWO, THEN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING

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[8. APPLICATION: Chick- Fil- A – Final Development Plan (Amendment)]

MY NAME IS JACK MAHANEY. I'M WITH GBC DESIGN WHERE THE CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM REPRESENTING CHICK FIL A. FOR THIS PROJECT. MY ADDRESS IS 565 WHITE POND DRIVE. AKRON, OHIO 44320. THIS PROPOSAL IS VERY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A 600 SQUARE FOOT EDITION AND DRIVE THROUGH RECONFIGURATION, INCLUDING A CANOPY AT CHICK FIL A. LOCATED AT 16 96 STRING TOWN ROAD. THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED IN 2002 AS PART OF THE PARKWAY CENTER NORTH REZONING. DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 2011 FOR A SMALL CANOPY OVER THE MENU BOARD. AND 2022 DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED TO RECONFIGURE THE PARKING LOT AND DRIVE THROUGH THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR THE ADDITION AND ALTERATIONS TO THE DRIVE THROUGH. PROPOSED DRIVE THROUGH WE'LL HAVE TWO LANES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE DRIVE THROUGH A FREESTANDING 28 BY. 54 FT LONG CANOPY IS PROPOSED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING OVER THE MENU BOARDS. THE NEW DRIVE THROUGH CAN STACK 34 CARS WITHIN THE DRIVE THRU LANES. PREVIOUS LEE APPROVED PLANS FROM 2022 COULD STACK 32 CARS, SIX OF WHICH WERE IN THE DRIVE. I'LL OVERFLOW AREA. THE DRIVE. THRU HAS HAS MOVED THE ORDER STATIONS BACK TO ALLOW FOR INCREASED TIME AND EFFICIENCY FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH AND HAS A WALKOUT. AS THEY WALK OUT. DRIVE THRU LANE, UM, DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW DOOR TO ALLOW ACCESS TO BOTH LANES. THEY DRIVE THROUGH. WHERE THE PICKUP. CANOPY WILL BE SUPPORTED BY BRICK COLUMNS THAT MATCH THE BUILDING MATERIAL AND COVER BOTH DR FEELINGS THAT PROPOSED ROOF IS FLAT BLACK.

COLORED METAL. STAFF IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE FLAT METAL ROOF AS IT DOES NOT MATCH THE MATERIALS USED IN THE BUILDING OR THE PROPOSED CANOPY AND DOES NOT MATCH THE CHARACTER OF THE PARKWAY CENTER STRUCK PARKWAYS UNDER STRUCTURES. A 600 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION IS PROPOSED ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING WITH THE HEIGHT OF 20 FT AND WILL MATCH THE EXISTING VOTING FACADE AND APPEARANCE. THE ADDITION WILL BE USED TO EXPAND THE CURRENT KITCHEN TO AL FOR INCREASED CAPACITY AND REDUCE WAIT TIMES FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH CUSTOMERS. THE NEW CONFIGURATION WILL ADD A CURB LANDSCAPE MEDIAN ALONG THE ENTIRE WEST SIDE OF THE DRIVE THROUGH WHICH WILL BE LANDSCAPED WITH A VARIETY OF TREES, SHRUBS AND GROUND COVER PLANTINGS THAT PROPOSED MEDIUM WILL LIMIT ACCESS TO THE DRIVE THROUGH FROM ANY OTHER LOCATION AND THE DESIGNATED ENTRANCE BEHIND THE BUILDING. IN ADDITION, PERIMETER PLANTINGS ALONG THE SIDE ARE PROPOSED FOR SCREENING OF THE PARKING LOT FROM THE ADJACENT ROAD, ROADWAYS, CONFIGURATION AND DECREASE OF OPEN SPACE. THE

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THEIR MENU BOARDS. THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE LAST TIME WE TOUCHED THEM AND YOUR BOOTS. SO THIS LOCATION IS IN PARKWAY CENTER NORTH, AND THAT SIX FT HEIGHT IS A SPECIFIC, UH, STANDARD IN THE PARKWAY CENTER EAST TEXT. SO THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS SECTION. I WAS LOOKING AT THE DRAWING OF IT, AND THEY DEFINITELY IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY LITTLE CANOPY OR MENU BOARDS ARE TALLER THAN FIVE FT. REQUIRED A BLOCK AWAY. OKAY? WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT CAPACITY OF CARS THAT AT THIS SITE RIGHT NOW PARKING OR DRIVE THROUGH QUEUING QUEUING. I BELIEVE THERE IS 32 TOTAL WITH FOR THE LATEST P U D IN EARLY 2022 6 OF THOSE WERE OUTSIDE OF THE DRIVE THRU QUEUING, SO THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE GOING TO WRAP THAT ENTIRE WORST SOUTH AND EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING WITH DUAL LINE THE WHOLE WAY AROUND, ULTIMATELY ELIMINATING THAT NEED FOR THAT SIX CAR SPILLOVER IN THAT ACCESS DRIVE AND CONTAIN IT ALL WITHIN THE DRIVE THRU AROUND, CENTERED AROUND THE BUILDING TO KEEP THAT OUTSIDE ACCESS. UH, FREE FOR CIRCULATION. VERY GOOD AT HOME DEPOT ON SATURDAYS. YOU'RE FAILING MISERABLY. WE LOVE CHICK

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THAT IS THAT PROPOSED BUILDING EDITION. SO THAT IS ENTIRELY FOR KITCHEN EXPANSION TO INCREASE KITCHEN CAPACITY. THE MENU BOARDS ARE PLACED STRATEGICALLY IN A LOCATION THAT THEY'VE PUTTING IN ALL THEIR NEW STORES, AND THEY'RE GOING BACK AND REVAMPING ALL THEIR STORES.

THEY'VE HAD VERY HUGE SUCCESS WITH THESE LOCATIONS AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT GIVES THE KITCHEN.

MORE OF A HEADS UP PLACES THE ORDER AND THEN THE THEORY IS THAT IT'S READY TO GO BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE WINDOW. AND WHEN I SAY WINDOW NOW THEY'RE DOING THESE TWO OR MAX DOORS, WHICH ALLOW THEM TO WALK IN AND OUT OF THE AREA SO THEY CAN DELIVER TO THE OUTSIDE LANE AND GET THE OUTSIDE LANE MOVING JUST AS QUICK AS THE INSIDE LANE. SO THE QUEUING. WE'RE BETTERING IT ON THE SITE, BUT I THINK THE INTERNAL WORKINGS ARE GOING TO BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT AS WELL AS FAR AS GETTING CUSTOMERS IN AND OUT OF THAT SITE SAFELY AND EFFICIENTLY. HERE I WOULD COMMENT THAT THIS IS A MUCH BETTER PLAN THAN WE SAW BACK IN MARCH. WE MAKE COMMENTS, THEN ABOUT THE NEED FOR DUAL ORDER LANES, AND I'M THRILLED TO SEE YOU TAKING UP ON THAT. MOVING THE ORDER KIOSKS FURTHER BACK IN THE QUEUE IS IMPORTANT THAT DIDN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE OUT THAT IT WAS NOT THE TAKING OF THE ORDERS. BUT THE FILLING OF THE ORDERS WHICH WAS CAUSING A BACKUP, SO KUDOS TO YOU FOR THE WHOLE REDESIGN EXTRA KITCHEN SPACE FOR BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE. UM I'M THRILLED THAT THIS WILL HELP WITH THAT. I LIKE THE, UM THE CURB LANE SEPARATING THE ORDER LANES. I'M HOPING THAT AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, THERE'S LOTS OF STRIPING THAT WILL DISCOURAGE PEOPLE COMING IN THE ENTRANCE AND DIVING INTO THAT LANE. YES, BECAUSE I THINK THE WAY IT LOOKS UNDER DRAWINGS. YOU COULD PROBABLY PULL THAT OFF.

UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME DAREDEVILS ON ONE CARD DOES THAT AND THEN YOU CAN'T GET THE HOME DEPOT AGAIN. AND IF THAT IS A CONCERN, THERE WILL BE STRIPING THERE. IF THERE IS CONCERNED, THEY HAVE OPTIONS FOR, UM MAGNETIC DELINEATE EAR'S THAT ARE TEMPORARY IN WHEN YOU MEET THEM, OR THEY CAN BE PERMANENT, BUT THEY'RE REMOVABLE AT THE BASE. THERE'S NO OBSTRUCTION TO SNOW, FLOWERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SO IT'S A SAFE ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY'RE KIND OF THROWN ON THESE SITES WHEN NEEDED, AND THAT'S IT'S USUALLY BY A CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND THE OPERATORS ARE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THEIR SITE AND HOW TO RUN IT EFFICIENTLY. UM AND MY TAKE ON THE ROOF. WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, I HAD WRITTEN THAT I WAS INDIFFERENT TO THE FLAT ROOF. I KIND OF THINK IT JUST DISAPPEARS BECAUSE IT'S SMALL AND FLAT AND DOESN'T DRAW A LOT OF ATTENTION TO STUFF. SO UM, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO HONORING YOUR REQUEST. TO STRIKE THAT. THAT'S ALL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS PLANNING COMMISSION. JUST WANTED ALONG THE TIMELINE.

WOULD THIS BE TYPICALLY, THESE REINVESTMENT PROJECTS STILL CLOSE. THE STORE DOWN FOR 3 TO 6 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON CLOSING THE STORE. YES THEY WILL REQUIRE THE STORE TO BE CLOSE TO MAKE THESE MODIFICATIONS. MY QUESTION. THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER CHICK BLAKER FEW MONTHS. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK YES. IF YOU COULD JUST YES, I'M I'M SORRY. ASK YOU TO DO THAT. BUT IF YOU COULD COME UP AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND ALSO WRITE IT DOWN. NOTHING BUT CAROL HALL , 33 15 POLONA STREET. UM I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE FLAT ROOF BECAUSE THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE. TAKING ORDERS. IF YOU DO THIS GABLE THING, AND THE WEATHER IS BAD. SO THAT'S JUST MY THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. GREAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT. THESE TWO STAFF. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MEN THAT WE STRIKE. STIPULATION NUMBER ONE REGARDING THE FREESTANDING ROOF BEING PARAPETS. LOOKING. LIKE TO JUST. BEFORE WE DO THE ROLL. CALL THE CITY WANT TO MENTION ANYTHING. I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE

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WITH. ONLY STIPULATION NUMBER TWO REGARDING THE MENU BOARDS. ROLL CALL. MR TITUS. MR BROCK.

YES. MR FARNSWORTH FREE? YES, YES. THANK YOU. HEY ITEM NUMBER NINE COURTYARDS AT MULBERRY RUN

[9. APPLICATION: Courtyards at Mulberry Run – Rezoning (R-1 to PUD-R)]

PRAGER. THE TAX REQUIRES OPEN SPACE BE PROVIDED PER CODE. WHICH REQUIRES THAT 3.33 POINT 93 ACRES BE PROVIDED. PERMITS 22 FT WIDE ROADS WITH SECTIONS OF 28 FT WIDE, WHERE PARKING IS PROVIDED ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET. ALONG WITH A 20 FT WIDE EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD WITH KNOCKDOWN BOLLARDS ON BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH SECTIONS. TEXT INCLUDES ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. FOR EXTERIOR FACADE MATERIALS, INCLUDING BRICK STONE FENCE, WOOD STUCCO. AND A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 1400 SQUARE FEET. TEXT IDENTIFIES AREAS FOR SCREENING ALONG WHITE ROAD AND MCDOWELL ROAD AND I 71 PROPOSED SCREENING CONSISTS OF 4 TO 6 FT MOUNDS WITH TWO ROWS OF EVERGREEN AND ORNAMENTAL TREES ALONG THE ENTIRE PROPERTY LINES IN THESE SECTIONS. IN ADDITION, A SIX FT FENCE ALONG THE ALONG THE EAST AND NORTH PROPERTY LINE OF THE NORTHERN SECTION IS PROPOSED TO SEPARATE AND SCREEN THE EXISTING HOMES FROM THE PROPOSALS. STAFF IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE FENCE AND RECOMMENDS THAT LANDSCAPING BE INSTALLED IN PLACE FOR THE PROPOSED SCREENING. TEXT ALLOWS FOR ALTERATIONS TO THE GROVE CITY STORMWATER DESIGN MANUAL AND REQUIRES ALL BASINS VISIBLE FROM WHITE ROAD AND MCDOWELL ROAD, AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND MEET STANDARDS FOR TIER ONE BASINS AS OUTLINED IN THE STORMWATER DESIGN DESIGN, MAN DESIGNED MAN OFF THE TEXT REQUIRES A SIGNALIZED CROSSWALKS. ACROSS WHITE ROAD.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT MEETS ALL APPLICABLE STANDARDS OF THE GROVE CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLES. AFTER REVIEWING CONSIDERATION THAT DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLAYING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS. THE SIX FT FENCE INCLUDED FOR SCREENING ON THE NORTHERN SECTION SHALL BE REPLACED WITH LANDSCAPING. THE FINAL DESIGN SHOULD INCLUDE SPECIES OF PLANTING, SPACING AND

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SO APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEVELOP A NEW SINGLE FAMILY PLANTED SUBDIVISION WITH 74 UNITS IN THESE UNITS WOULD BE ON PRIVATE DRIVES THAT ARE BETWEEN 22 FT AND 28 FT IN WIDTH WITH THE PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE OF ALL THE PRIVATE ROADWAYS. THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS 3.1. PER DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. AND WILL IT BE DEVELOPED WITH A VARIETY OF HOME TYPES BY COMMUNITIES? THE OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS 4.29 ACRES, WHICH EXCEEDS THE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR OPEN SPACE. IN ADDITION, THE ZONING TEXT IN YOUR PACKET INCLUDES LIMITATIONS FOR PERMITTED USES LANDSCAPING LOT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, TRAFFIC COMMITMENTS AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. WE WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE STIPULATION RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BE REMOVED BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT THE NORTHERN AND EAST PROPERLY LINE OF THE NORTHERN TRACT. OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE NEIGHBORS IN OUR MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE WE FILED ANY APPLICATION REQUESTED THAT WE EITHER KEEP THE CURRENT FARM FENCE THAT'S THERE OR HAVE OUR FENCE AS A PRIVACY FENCE ARE PAIGE. PRIVATE PRIVACY FENCE INCLUDED ON THAT NORTHERN AND EASTERN BOUNDARY LINES. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THIS STIPULATION BE REMOVED AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

WELCOME. THE CITY LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE STIPULATION. UM THE STIPULATION WAS DRAFTED THIS WAY BECAUSE WHAT FOR CONSISTENCY WITH OTHER AREA DEVELOPMENTS EVEN IF KHAN DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY ON THE COURTYARDS ON HOOVER, THERE WAS DISCUSSION DURING THE APPROVAL OF THAT PROJECT AS TO WHETHER PRIVACY, FENCING OR LANDSCAPING WAS SEEN AS IS MORE DESIRABLE AND IT WAS LANDSCAPING IN THAT CASE, SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HAS BEEN ACCEPTABLE AND PAST DEVELOPMENTS. QUESTION FOR STAFF. WHAT IS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED? SO FAR ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED THE ANNEXATION FOR THE NORTHERN PARCEL IS STILL IN CONSIDERATION. IT HAD ITS FIRST READING LAST NIGHT. CORRECT WE'RE DEALING WITH STUFF. YES SOMEHOW WE GOT OFFENSIVE. WOULD BE DEALT WITH. ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. INSTEAD OF RESIGNING. WELL, THE ZONING TEXT HAS STANDARDS FOR SCREENING. THAT WE WOULD THAT MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN COMPLIES WITH THE ZONING THE REGULATING ZONING TEXT MY QUESTIONS, JUST WONDERING HOW WE WERE. OFFENSE WHEN WE WENT TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT. QUESTIONS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I HAVE A COUPLE. UM SO IS IT 74 OR 75 UNITS, SAYS 75 ON THE ZONING TEXT. THAT IS A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LOTS THAT COULD BE CREATED. BUT WE HAVE SHOWN ALL ALONG THROUGH ALL INFORMAL DRAWINGS AND THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED 74 LOTS THAT ESSENTIALLY WE'RE VOTING OR WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE ZONING TEXT FIVE. WE COULD CERTAINLY REDUCE THAT TO 74. WE WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT IN THE ZONING TEXT. NEITHER COMMENTS ARE AND THIS CAME UP IN THE PRELIMINARY. I THINK WE ALSO HEARD IT AT COUNCIL AND THEIR FIRST READING WHERE THEIR READINGS OF THE PRELIMINARY THAT THESE ARE REALLY SMALL LOTS WITH REALLY SMALL HOUSES ON AS I READ THIS TEXT AGAIN. IT'S APPARENT THAT THERE ARE 20 FT FRONT YARDS. 10 FT BETWEEN THE HOUSES

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MAY I RESPOND TO THAT? OKAY? SO THIS DEVELOPMENT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS AERIAL DOES FIT COMPATIBLE WITH ALL THE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS SURROUNDING IT.

THERE'S NO MORE DENSITY THAT YOU SEE HERE THAN ANY OTHER DENSITY IN THE OTHER LOTS IN THESE SUBDIVISIONS, SO THESE ALSO HAVE HOMES THAT ARE PRETTY CLOSE TOGETHER SMALLER LOTS. THEY'LL BE EAS HAVE LARGER LOTS. THEY'RE NOT PART OF A PLANET SUBDIVISION. BUT ALL OF THIS IS VERY COMPATIBLE IN TERMS OF LOT SIZES AND HOW CLOSE THE BUILDING STRUCTURES ARE TO EACH OTHER.

INCLUDING DOWN HERE THAT THAT'S EVEN MORE DENSE AS YOU CROSS 71 , BUT THEN TO THE ACTUALLY, UM, TALKS ABOUT MANY ITEMS, SO I WANT TO HIT ON ALL THE ITEMS THAT DENSITY COULD INVOLVE, SO WE'RE COMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. THAT'S THE FIRST ONE AND TWO. WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY. AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT DENSITY YOU WANT TO SEE. OKAY WHAT WITH THIS NUMBER OF UNITS AND WITH THE FACT THAT OUR CLIENTELE TARGET MARKET IS EMPTY NESTERS 55 YEARS PLUS, BUT OUR TRAFFIC STUDY IS BASED ON SINGLE FAMILY, NOT SENIORS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A RESTRICTED TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO THEREFORE OUR TRAFFIC STUDY RESULTS SHOWED THAT EVEN UNDER SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THERE WERE NO TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS WARRANTED. WHY THIS DEVELOPMENT MEETING? THIS NUMBER OF UNITS CAN YOU KNOW, GO TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS AND USE THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT CREATING A NEED FOR IMPROVEMENTS . HOWEVER WE ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS. WE WILL MAKE A LEFT TURNING LANE MOVEMENT CHANGED ONTO WHITE ROAD INTO THE SOUTHERN TRACKED AND WE HAVE A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. I DO HAVE A RENDERING AND ILLUSTRATION OF THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. THAT'S NEW. THAT'S JUST FOR EXHIBIT PURPOSES TODAY THAT I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU BUT THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF DENSITY DISCUSSION IN THE THIRD THING THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT WHAT DENSITY DISCUSSIONS IS OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION AND GREEN SPACE. WE ARE PRESERVING THIS STREAM CORRIDOR AREA HERE IN GRANTING AN EASEMENT TO THE CITY FOR A MULTIPURPOSE PATH IN THIS CORNER. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPEN STREETS 4.29 ACRES WORTH, WHICH EXCEED THE CODE REQUIREMENT OF THREE POINT SO THEN I BELIEVE 3.7 TO 8 SO WE EXCEED THE OPEN SPACE, PRESERVING GREEN SPACE AND PROVIDING A WONDERFUL AMENITY RICH PACKAGE FROM OUR RESIDENTS , SO THE REASON THEY WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH. IS BECAUSE THERE'S A CLUBHOUSE AND PULLED DOWN HERE, BUT WE ADDED PARKING SPACES TO ACCOMMODATE DRIVING TO THAT LOCATION AS WELL. THERE'S THE SAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, WHICH, BY THE WAY IS PROBABLY A LOT FURTHER THAN A LOT OF FOLKS THOUGHT. AS JUST A LAYMAN'S PERSPECTIVE FROM 71, BECAUSE HERE'S THE ENTRANCE TO THAT PUBLIC PARK, AND I KIND OF OUTLINE THE PUBLIC PARK IN A YOU KNOW, A DASH LINE, SO THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IS ACTUALLY RIGHT HERE. IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF OUR ACCESS DRIVE, WHICH HAS SIGHTLINE EXHIBITS THAT MR MIKE REEVES, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER CAN TALK TO THAT. IT'S VERY SAFE. IN ADDITION, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S BOCHY BAR ON BOTH SIDES OR I'M SORRY, PICKLEBALL ON BOTH. UM LOCATIONS AND BOCCE BALL OVER HERE. THERE'S PARKING , ALSO FOR RESIDENTS ALONGSIDE THESE COMMON SPACES, BUT SOME PEOPLE WILL WANT TO WALK. WE ALSO ARE BUILDING THIS MULTIPURPOSE PATH. SORRY. THIS IS ALREADY EXISTING. DOWN HERE TO CONNECT TO THIS AREA, AND SO WE THINK WE'VE DEVELOPED A GOOD PROJECT THAT MEETS THOSE NEEDS. JUST SO I CAN ILLUSTRATE THE PHOTOS OF THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. THIS IS IF THE DRIVER IS ACTUALLY DRIVING UNDER THE SPEED THE SPEED LIMIT 35 MPH. SO IF YOU'RE STANDING AT THE LOCATION OF THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING OR DRIVING THIS IS YOUR VIEW LOOKING EAST. THIS IS IF YOU'RE SPEEDING AND GOING 55.

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TRAINING THE MOTION. WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL APPLICATION. NINE COURTYARDS MARRIED MULBERRY RUN. REZONING ARE 12 PDR. TO OUR CITY COUNCIL WITH THE ONE STIPULATION. I'LL SECOND. BROKE ALL MR FARNSWORTH? YES. CHAIR. OYSTER? YES. MR FREE. NO. MR BROCK? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. HE DIDN'T NUMBER 10 HARRIS PROPERTY PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. MR TINUS. YES

[10. APPLICATION: Harris Property – Preliminary Development Plan]

THIS PHASE IS PROPOSED TO CONTAIN 148 ATTACHED RANCH HOMES FRONTING ON BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE STREETS WITH SERVICE FROM PRIVATE STREETS. HOMES AND PHASES. B AND C ARE DESIGNED THE FRONT AND LONDON GROUP COURT ROAD IN BORDER ROAD ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. BUT WE'LL BE ACCESSED FROM ETERNAL ROADWAYS. IN ADDITION TO THESE PHASES, MATERIAL, STATED THE EXISTING HOME HOME THE HARRIS HOUSE AND THE PROPERTY IS INTENDED TO BE USED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE OR REPURPOSED TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH COMMERCIAL AND PRESIDENT RECREATIONAL USES. THE GROSS DENSITY AS OPPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS 3.51 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND THE INDIVIDUAL DENSITIES OF EACH OF THE PROPOSED PHASES ARE IN LINE WITH THE DENSITY OF OTHER AREA DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE SAME FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, INCLUDING THE LEARNINGS THAT QUAIL CREEK AND THE RAVINE QUAIL CREEK. ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS WILL BE ESTABLISHED AND FINALIZED DURING THE REZONING PROCESS. HOWEVER BASED ON OTHER RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA STAFF EXPECTS FRONT ELEVATIONS OF BUILDINGS TO INCLUDE NOT LESS THAN 25% BRICK STONE. OR CULTURED, STONE, EXCLUSIVE WINDOW STORE OF THINGS LIKE GARAGE DOORS. THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO PROVIDED PRELIMINARY INFORMATION ON THE PROPOSED CONCLAVES. THE DRAFT ZONING TEXT INCLUDED WITH THE APPLICATION MATERIALS. THE HOMES IN PHASE A

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MULTI USED PATHWAYS ARE SHOWN RUNNING THROUGH RUNNING ALONG THE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY EXTENSION, AS WELL AS THE SITE'S CENTRAL OPEN SPACE AREA STAFFS. EXPECTATION IS THAT MOST OF THE CENTRAL OPEN SPACE WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES AND CHILD CONNECTIVITY. AND IN AREAS WHERE FUTURE TRAILS WILL CROSS SPACE THAT WILL REMAIN PRIVATE. PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENTS WILL BE NEED TO BE DEDICATED OVER THE TRAILS TO ENSURE PUBLIC ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY. IN ADDITION TO THE MULTI USED PATHWAYS, A SIDEWALK NETWORK HAS PROPOSED ACROSS THE SITE PROMOTING FURTHER CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN PHASES. FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WILL NEED TO TAKE PLACE WITH THE APPLICANT TO INVESTIGATE THE POTENTIAL FOR A TRAIL TO BE ADDED ALONG THE SITES WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, WHICH ALLOW FOR FUTURE TRAIL EXTENSIONS TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTION TO THE QUILT. CREEK BOULEVARD TRAIL AND THE TRAIL CURRENTLY TERMINATING AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LONDON GIRL COURT ROAD AND HOOVER ROAD. WHILE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS WOULD BE ESTABLISHED DURING THE REZONING PROCESS TO ADDRESS PLANTING REQUIREMENTS, STREET TREES, ENTRY FEATURES AND OTHER LANDSCAPING ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

PRELIMINARY DETAILS WERE PROVIDED. PLANS INCLUDE STREET TREES ALONG BOTH SIDES OF PROPOSED ROADWAYS AND SHOW NEW PLANTING AND RESERVE AREAS AND AROUND ENTRY FEATURES. EVERGREEN SCREENING IS PROPOSED BETWEEN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND EXISTING RESIDENCES IN SOME LOCATIONS STANDARDS TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE SCREENING ALONG PROPERTY LINES WHERE JAYSON TURK EXISTING RESIDENTIAL WILL BE EXAMINED WITH THE REZONING APPLICATION. OUR ATTENTION.

BASINS INSTALLED THIS AS DEVELOPMENT WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS OUTLINING THE CITY'S STREAMLINING THE SAME MANUAL. AS THE HOMES AND PHASES B AND C ARE DESIGNED TO FRONT ON LONDON GIRL FORT ROAD IN BOROUGH ROAD, WHERE ADJACENT TO RIGHT AWAY MELTING AND SCREENING ARE NOT PROPOSED INSTEAD OF SIDEWALK TREES AND THREE WHALE HORSE FENCE IS PROPOSED. HAS NO UNITS BACK UP TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. STAFF IS AFFORDABLE. THE TREATMENTS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT. NOTING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CAN BE ALL APPLICABLE P U D CRITERIA. AND ALL GROSS CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLES WHILE ALSO BEING ALIGNED WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATED FOR THE AREA AFTER REVIEWING CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ESTIMATED WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS? SURE WOULD. UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE HARRIS PROPERTY. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES WHEN WE DO OUR, UM, ZONING PLAN WE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH DR HARRIS. LONG TIME GROWTH CITY RESIDENTS SINCE FOURTH GRADE SERVING IS A FACTOR, UH, TAKING CARE OF MANY PEOPLE AND GROW CITY. HIS OFFICE AND THE NURSING HOMES THAT HE SERVICED HERE IN GROVE CITY. INVESTED IN THE PROPERTY AND. 84 LIVED IN THE FARMHOUSE AND THEN

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APART FROM PERC WAIT TO THE NORTH. MHM WILL BE COMPRISED OF OPEN SPACE. OR THE BEAUTIFUL HARRIS HOUSE, WHICH WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE AND RECREATIONAL FEATURES ON IT. SO YOU'RE REPLACING YOUR DRIVE DOWN 6 65 RIGHT NOW THERE'S OPEN FARM FIELD. UM BUT WE FEEL THIS WILL BE MUCH MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. MUCH LOWER SPEED LIMIT. I WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY, BUT MAYBE IT COULD BE LIMITED THE NO TRUCK TRAFFIC AT ALL. SO WOULD BE THE TRUE RESIDENTIAL. ENTRANCE. IT'S NOT THE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE CREATED THAT PITIFUL. WE DEALT WITH BUCKEYE PARKWAY. WAS DESIGNED TO GO THROUGH PINNACLE. WE MANEUVERED IT A LITTLE BIT FROM THE PLANS WHEN WE FIRST GOT INVOLVED. WE MOVED THAT INCORPORATE AND KEEP THE EXISTING BARN IS OUR MAINTENANCE FACILITY. BUT WHEN YOU'RE HEADING WHITE ROAD OR BUCKEYE PARKWAY SOUTH TO COME ACROSS WHITE ROAD NOT THE SIMILAR. WE HAVE TOWN HOMES. WE HAD UM KIND OF MANY UMS. JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO PINNACLE. THERE ARE TRUE APARTMENTS TRUE MAORI FAMILY.

AND THEN IT TRANSITIONS IN THE PINNACLE. AH TWO DIFFERENT HOUSING VARIETIES THAT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT RANGED FROM 180,000. THE GREEN SECTION WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS BACKING UP TO 71. TWO. ALMOST HAD A MILLION DOLLAR HOME IN 2007 THE PARADE OF HOMES SO COMPATIBILITY, POEMS AND VALUES. OUR CAN. WITHSTAND EACH OTHER AND COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER AT THE DESIGN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS RIGHTLY DONE. AND SO. ON THE DRIVE ON HOP ON PARKWAY. YOU WON'T SEE ANY GRADUATES. YOU WANT TO PARK CARS OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, YOU'LL SEE FRONT AND FRONT PORCHES OVERLOOKING OPEN SPACE. AND WE COMMITTED TO THE SAME TREATMENT ALONG 6 65. WE MIGHT NOT HAVE AS MANY FROM POACHERS ON THOSE UNITS, UM BUT THEY WILL FRONT THEY WANT OUTSIDE WALKS, AND THEY EFFECTIVELY ACT AS A SOUND BARRIER. AND THE ABILITY FOR US TO PULL THOSE BUILDINGS CLOSER.

THAT NORMAL TO 6 65. ABSOLUTELY A BIT AS A TRAFFIC HOMING DEVICE. AS WELL. CLOSER BUILDINGS ARE TWO ROUNDS. PEOPLE TEND NOT TO GO QUITE AS FAST. SO THE COMMITMENT THROUGHOUT ONBOARD ROAD. AND. 6 65 HAWTHORNE PARKWAY. YOU WON'T SEE PARKING GARAGES. ARTIST YOU'LL SEE ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPING SIDEWALKS. THE. WE UNDERSTOOD AND TALKED WITH STAFF QUITE A BIT, AND I DO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR HIM. WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM EXTENSIVELY AND HELPED OUT BUT THE BOARD ROAD INTERSECTION IS A SAFETY ISSUE. AND TO CALL THIS FACT THAT MAKING IT AS PART OF OUR PLAN. MR LOGAN. POINTED OUT THAT. WE WILL NEED THE COOPERATION OF THE TOWNSHIP. IN THE STATE BEFORE THAT IS MODIFIED IN THE SAME WITH OUR ENTRANCE. AND THE TIE IN WITH HEARTBURN PARKWAY TO 6 65, WE'RE GOING TO NEED NO DOUBT APPROVAL OF THAT AS WELL. BUT WE FELT THAT BETTER THE SAFETY OF THE WHOLE AREA. ELIMINATES THAT INTERSECTION. WE DO SHOW ONE ACCESS. INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT FROM BOARD AND THE REASON WHY WE PUT THAT IN AS IF WE CALL IT A SACK BOARD. I WAS RIGHT NORTH OF 6 65. IT WOULD END UP WITH LONG CALLED US THAT CONDITION. AND.

WE WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT BEING AN EMERGENCY ACCESS, BUT THAT ACCESS WAS PUT IN FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. UM, ON THE EAST SIDE. BORDER ROAD. SO IN GENERAL, WE FEEL IT'S GOING TO BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING DEVELOPMENT. AND I MIGHT HAVE SAID WITH OUR OPEN SPACE BECAUSE IT SAYS MUCH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION ON DENSITY IS QUITE

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THE MULTI FAMILY HIGHER DENSITY STUFF. IS RIGHT UP AGAINST INDIAN TRAILS AND HAWTHORN WOODS. AND ALL OF THE OTHER MULTI FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREA ARE REALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY UP IN QUAIL ROD AND THOSE DEVELOPMENTS UP THERE. UM FRANKLY, I WAS. I WAS EXCITED TO HEAR YOUR YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS. THANK YOU REPRESENT ONE OF THE CITY'S PREMIER DEVELOPERS.

WE ARE ALSO PROUD OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE HERE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. PRETTY MUCH CHESTER. MY DREAM WITH THAT THIS WOULD BE PINNACLE. TWO POINT. OH, HERE. THE HAIR IS HOME IS A BEAUTIFUL HOME. I REMEMBER DRIVING BY THAT AS IT WAS BEING BUILT. THINKING OUT OF THEIR MINDS. WHY IS IT GOING ALL THE WAY BACK THERE? UM BUT IT'S A IT'S A GORGEOUS HOME, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PINNACLE STYLE HOMES PLANTED FOR THIS PROPERTY. UM, I DO THINK BULB BEING AH! BORDER ROAD THERE AT 6 65 IS A GOOD IDEA. BECAUSE THAT IS A NASTY LITTLE INTERSECTION. I WONDER, THOUGH. HOW UM SOMETHING OTHER THAN A CAR. AND MAKE THEIR WAY SOUTH. KOREA THEY CAN GO OUT AND COME BACK DOWN. 6 65 AND CONTINUE SOUTH. UM I HAPPEN TO USE THAT INTERSECTION FOR BIKING , AND IT'S A TOUGH INTERSECTION TO GET ACROSS. UM, BUT. I DON'T SEE ANY WAY TO CROSS ANYMORE TO GET INTO THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF THERE. UM. I THINK THE BIG CONVERSATION HERE AND IF YOU WERE IN THE ROOM LAST NIGHT WITH CITY COUNCIL IS THE DEVELOPMENT IS JUST BRINGING. I THINK THIS PUTS US OVER 1200 NEW HOMES IN THE 6 65 104 QUADRANT OF OUR CITY, AND WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT. THERE'S A TERRIFIC CHICKEN AND THE EGG QUESTION GOING ON IS DO WE BUILD THE HOUSES SO THAT WE'RE FORCED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ROADS OR VICE VERSA? UM BUT ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS, AS I LOOK AT WHAT'S PLANTED RIGHT ALONG 6 65 IS WE'VE COMPLETELY SHUT OFF THE CAPACITY OF DOING ANYTHING. TO ROUTE 6 65 THROUGH THAT SECTION. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S

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WHENEVER WE LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER PINNACLE WHICH. ON THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN FOR 15 YEARS. I SAID THEY WANTED TO GOLF COURSE THERE. WHEN I FIRST GOT INVOLVED, THE DESIGN WAS THE GOLF COURSE OUT BY THE FREEWAY. AND WHEN WE DO THINGS WE WANT EVERY FACE OF WHAT WE DO TO BE THE BEST. IT COULD BE. AND INSTEAD OF PUTTING CUSTOM HOMES ON SOME OF THE PRETTIER GROUND THAT'S WHERE WE PUT THE GOLF COURSE, MAKING IT THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING IT ONE OF THE BEST CROP FORCES IN SUCH RYO, EVEN THE STATE WHERE IT TRADED. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS SITE WE WANTED TO BE THE BEST COULD BE IF WE WERE TO TRY TO DO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. BETWEEN HAWTHORN PARKWAY. BECAUSE THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A GIVEN. AND THE EXISTING 6 65 AND BORE ROADS.

THEY WOULD NOT BE THE BEST. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT THEY COULD BE THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPROMISED. WE WOULD END UP BACKING UP HOMES PROBABLY AND NOT BE ABLE TO FRONT THE ARCHITECTURE. TO BE A BETTER GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE WOULD HAVE TO BACK HOMES UP ON 26 65.

WHICH I THINK THE LAST SECTION OF INDIAN TRAILS THERE MIGHT BE SOME TUMBLES RIGHT THERE. WELL WHATEVER WAS BUILT, AND THEN IT ENDS UP WITH THE STOCKADE FENCE. AND TO ME. THAT IS NOT WILL NOT BE LONG STANDING. I WANT TO COME BACK. CAN STILL COME BACK TO 20 YEARS LATER AND BE PROUD. WE WANT TO BE PROUD OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT THE PARAMETERS WERE GIVEN 6 65. WE FEEL THIS IS THE BEST WAY ARCHITECTURALLY. AND AESTHETICALLY TO ADDRESS GIVEN CONDITIONS. WE DID AGREE THAT DEDICATE MORE RIGHT AWAY. ON 6 65. I THINK HER CURRENT RIGHT AWAY IS ON EARTH AT 60, AND WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE AND NOT JUST PART OF OUR ZONING THAT WAS REQUEST TO STAFF. TO WIDEN THAT 100 PHOTOGRAPHED AWAY. TO ALLOW FOR FUTURE. UM EXPANSION LANES, ETCETERA. AND THEN WITH US COMPLETING AGAIN HAWTHORNE PARKWAY. I THINK WE'RE A DIFFERENT SHOULD BE PUT IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY THAN SOMEONE AT THE END OF THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE INCLUDING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AN INDIAN TRAILS OFFICE. 6 65 QUICKER. THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO WE THINK THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. NOT A DETRIMENT OR. NOW MAKING TRAFFIC PROBLEM ANY WORSE. OTHER QUESTIONS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY? WE'RE GOING FIRST. GO AHEAD. OKAY THE THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT HARRIS FARM IS PRIME FOR DEVELOPMENT. AND. I HAVE PROBABLY QUITE A DIFFERENT CONCEPTUAL VIEW. OF THAT AREA. I THINK WE'RE LUCKY THAT WE HAVE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY. AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY TIES TOGETHER. FAMILIES AND HOMEOWNERS ALL THE WAY OVER TO HANG AND GROVE SIDED DEVELOPMENT. FARMSTEAD INDIAN TRAILS HAWTHORN WOODS AND POTENTIALLY DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIDE. BUT MY CONCEPTUAL VIEW WHEN I BACK OFF JUST TO SAY BREACH AND KIND OF LOOK AT A, UH KIND OF A BIGGER VIEW. OF THE CITY AND THE INTERCONNECTIVITY OF OUR ROADS. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER SERVED. IF HAWTHORNE PARKWAY ENTERED THIS SITE DOUBT ABOUT HALFWAY INTO IT AND THEN WENT NORTH. AND YOU SEE A BALL ISH IN THE TOP OF THE SCREEN THERE AT THE TOP OF THE VIEW.

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ACROSS 6 65. SO. I LIKE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS AS MUCH. SO BY NOT GOING UNDER 6 65. WE ESSENTIALLY DON'T IMPACT ANYBODY ON 6 65. AND. WE DON'T PUT ANY EXTRA IMPACT ON CORE ROAD. FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO GO SOUTH OR NORTH ON BOARD BECAUSE THEY NORTH THE QUAIL CREEK. THAT'S JUST. AND I KNOW THIS TOTALLY DIFFERENT VIEWS THAN WHAT YOU'VE WORKED ON AND DEVELOPED. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS DO GOOD PRODUCTS AND DEVELOPMENTS. BUT I JUST WHEN I DRIVE THIS AREA, I LIVED DOWN THE ROAD JUST FROM THERE AND I DRIVE IT SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.

AND I JUST DON'T LIKE TO SEE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS OR EXISTING STREETS IMPACTED MUCH.

AND I KNOW. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE WOULD JUMP OUT THERE, THEN YOU STILL GOT TO FIGHT WITH THE TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING TO GET ON THE 71 WORDS OR DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH SKATE WAY. BRIDGE POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONCEPTUAL RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT WOULD BE LIKE LIVING BUCKEYE PARKWAY. TIE INTO A FREEWAY EXIT WITHOUT HAVING TO ENDURE STRING TOWN ROAD FOR THAT LITTLE SECTION. YEAH. THIS WE WOULD TURN HAWTHORNE PARKWAY IN THE BUCKEYE PARKWAY. AND FINAL ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST. WITHOUT. MAKING A CO MINGLE WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC, POTENTIALLY BUT OKAY. OKAY RESPOND. ABSOLUTELY RESPECTFULLY. I THINK YOU'RE TALKING HAWTHORNE PARKWAY. COMING FROM THE EAST. WILL COME THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT CONTINUE TO 6 65. BOAT TO THE NORTH TO THE NORTH QUAIL CREEK KEEP OR ROADS.

UNTOUCHED BASICALLY, NOW THE INTERSECTION IS BORN 6 65 NEEDS ADDRESSED. THE TOWNSHIPS WORKED ON THAT MANY, MANY TIMES ON TRYING TO EITHER STRAIGHTEN IT OUT OR RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE. IT NEEDS A DRESS THAT'S NOT FIRST AND FOREMOST. SUGGESTION DEVELOPED WAS STAFF OF KAWASAKI AND BOARD ROAD. DOESN'T NEED TO BE PART OF OUR PLAN. WE WERE ADDRESSING THAT FOR SAFETY. SO THERE BETTER WAYS. TO ADDRESS FAT AND LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.

OUR PLANS STILL WORKS AND THEN WE COULD ELIMINATE ARE ACCESS ON THE BOARD ROAD. YEAH BUT WHAT? TO ACCESS POINTS YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SHUFFLE AROUND, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY KIND OF CHANGING UP. YOUR LAYOUTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT KEEPING BOARD ROAD WHERE IT IS, WON'T CHANGE YOUR LIFE AND NOW THE OTHER ONE WOULD CHANGE THE LAYOUT. EXTENSIVELY. UM IT WOULD NOT PROVIDE THE RESIDENTIAL BYPASS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WOULD STILL NEED TO USE MORE ROAD TO GET THE HAWTHORN WOODS. INDIAN TRAILS. AND THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COME THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT. YOU YOU'RE SAYING PARKWAY INTERSECTS EVERY ROAD TO THE EAST, RIGHT? BUT THEY

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YEAH I 15 WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE BOULEVARD. BUT MY CONCERN IS EXACTLY THE SAME PEOPLE GOING ON 6 65 55 MILE AN HOUR. INTO THIS, AND IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHT AND WIDE AND GOING TO IT'S GONNA BE HARD, SLOWING THEM DOWNWARDS IT TIED INTO QUAIL CREEK THAT IS ANOTHER CITY STREET. WHAT'S QUAIL CREEK 35 MILES SO THAT IS BASICALLY CONTROL. THE FULL LENGTH OF THE CONNECTOR, EAST WEST INSIDE THE CITY WITHOUT THE STATE ROUTE. BEING PART OF THIS CONNECTOR.

AND JUST A QUESTION. WHAT IS HAWTHORNE'S POSTED SPEED LIMIT NOW? 35. SO VALLEYS. RIGHT YEAH , BUT IT COULD BE POSTED LOWER BY THE CITY. WHERE WE DON'T HAVD LIMIT. IT WOULD BE SOME SAVINGS IF HE DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT IN A TURN LIGHTS THE LANES AND SIGNAL IZATION AT 6 65. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT FOR EXPENSE IN THE CREEK CROSSINGS AND FINDING THE BOTH OF ART. TO THE NORTH.

CITY WOULD. I MEAN ECONOMICALLY FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T THINK IT'S FEASIBLE FEASIBLE.

OKAY? LIKE TO MENTION A COUPLE OF ITEMS. I ALSO LIVE IN HAWTHORN WOODS SO IN IN THE AREA. UM AND I DO SEE YOU KNOW YOUR DEVELOPMENT AND THE THOUGHT THAT WAS PUT INTO IT, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY WITH THE HOME'S FRONT EDGE TO THE STREETS , SO THAT'S HELPFUL FOR A YOU KNOW, DRIVING BY AND THE AESTHETICS OF IT, UM, DEFINITELY MEAN FOR THAT. AND MR HARRIS YOUR PROPERTY. THE JUST THE LAND COULDN'T BE MORE BEAUTIFUL. SO UM, WOULD CERTAINLY BE A YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL PLACE FOR CERTAINLY YOU TO LIVE FOR THE LAST MANY YEARS, BUT ALSO FOR OTHERS, UM AND THEN I DO THINK THAT DEFINITELY THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT WITH THE, UM FOR ROAD. YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT COURTED OFF AT THE END. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM I DO WANT TO MENTION MY, UM, YOU KNOW? WHERE WHERE I SEE. MAYBE THERE COULD BE IMPROVEMENT IS, UM. AND SEE IT'S SO DENSE. AND A AND B FROM THE HOMES. THE HOMES, I'M SURE WILL BE WONDERFUL. I'VE SEEN WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE AND, UM, THEY LOOK VERY ATTRACTIVE AND AGAIN, WELL THOUGHT THROUGH. UM IS THERE ANY WAY FOR C TO BE LESS DENSE LIST . I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK FOR YOU. AND I KNOW THERE'S ECONOMICS IN PLAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHILE UM YEAH. THE HOMES DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, THE HOMES AND HAWTHORN WOODS AND INDIAN TRAILS. I MEAN THOSE, UM ARE NOT AS DENSE AND SO WITH THE BLENDING OF NEIGHBORHOODS. UM I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS V A LITTLE LESS STUNTS OF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO.

HMM. WONDER ALSO. WE'RE WORKING WITH WILCOX COMMUNITY THAT DID BROWN FARMS ON THAT PIECE RIGHT NOW, AND THERE ARE OTHER BUILDERS THAT BUILD SIMILAR TYPE UNITS AND I MEAN, GOOD COMMUNITIES. IN CENTRAL OHIO. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP THE DENSITY FOR THIS PURPOSE. TODAY THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN TACT. I DID PROVIDE DASH, RENDERING. HOW AN UPGRADED WILCOX UNIT THAT SOME SAY DONE. BROWN'S FARM. IT WOULD BE THE NEXT SO THAT. THIS IS A TYPE OF UNIT THAT YOU WOULD SEE. FROM OR ROAD. AND YOU KNOW, GARAGES, DORMER TREATMENT, MORE GABLE AND TREATMENT. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER UNTIL I LOVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BECAUSE WE

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BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, SHOW YOU THE ARCHITECTURE AND HOW IT'S ALL PUT TOGETHER. IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANE. THEIR QUESTIONS ARE PLANNING COMMISSION. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK PLEASE APPROACH AND WHEN YOU DO IF YOU COULD WRITE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS ALSO STATED AND THEN, UM. WE'LL NEED TO, UM. LIMIT THE TIMEFRAME. YOU WON'T JUST THREE MINUTES. I WON'T BE THERE. UM. NO I'VE HEARD THESE ALL THESE LOVELY PROPOSALS FOR THESE AREAS. AND OF WHICH THERE ARE MANY NOW IN GROUPS CITY. AND I'M A RETIRED SCHOOLTEACHER. JUST STATE YOUR NAME CHRISTY STEWART AND YOUR ADDRESS. 31 80 PARK STREET.

THANK YOU. SO UM, IS ANYBODY THINKING ABOUT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ALL OF THIS? YOU KNOW, GROWTH CITY. SOUTHWESTERN IS VERY UNIQUE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE'RE NOT JUST GROVE CITY. WE'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT ALL OVER SOUTH WEST COLUMBUS. AND GROW CITY. I'M YOU KNOW HOW YOU HAVE ALL THESE LOVELY PLANS. ARE YOU REALLY? YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR SCHOOLS AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD RECORD OF PASSING LEVEES AND BOND DISHES IN THIS AREA. AND EVERY TIME EVERYBODY COMES UP WITH THEIR PLANS, I'M THINKING WELL, THAT SOUNDS LOVELY. BUT WHERE ARE THESE KIDS GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL? AND WHERE THE SCHOOL BUS IS GOING TO BE DRIVING, AND THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC. SO, YOU KNOW. WELL. YOU CAN SAY THIS IS PROGRESS OF SPEAK. IT IS AND IT ISN'T. IT CAN BE WAY TOO MUCH. WE'VE SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING, HILLIARD. WE'VE SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING. DUBLIN AND I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED.

IT'S NOT THAT I'M AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT PLAYS INTO THIS AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF OUR SCHOOLS AS WELL. AM I? I SHARE YOUR CONCERNS. I COULD HEAR THE LAST LEVY. AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS KEPT IN THE FACE OF ALL THIS STUFF. AND I MEAN ONE OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS. WE'VE ACTUALLY KEPT LAND AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS KEPT UP PRIZE OF ALL THIS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND THAT THE SHARING THESE MEETINGS WITH US AND I MEAN I FEEL LIKE THE DISTRICT'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AS STRETCHING THE MONEY AS FAR AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN, AND I POUNDED THE PAVEMENT TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE. AND YOU KNOW, OF COURSE. NOW I'M I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN AND I UNDERSTAND UNFORTUNATE I WOULD BE ABLE TO PROBABLY AFFORD THAT . BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE FENCE THAT CAN'T AND SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN. APPRECIATE THAT, CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF MY PRIMARY TUBE AND I APPRECIATE YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M JAMIE KNEW I LIVE AT 64 TO 8 OR ROAD SO DIRECTLY SOUTH OF WHERE WE'RE DISCUSSING. UM MY MAIN CONCERN AND AGAIN TRAFFIC AND SCHOOLS.

BOTH MY KIDS ATTEND SOUTHWESTERN CITY SCHOOLS. GROUP CITY HIGH SCHOOL IS, UM YOU CAN'T WALK THROUGH IT ANYMORE. THAT'S THAT'S THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT UNTIL THAT SCHOOL GROWS OR IS REPLACED OR WHATEVER I ADDING, YOU KNOW. 300 MORE HOMES SEEMS. LIKE A NOT A GREAT IDEA. UM AND THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CULT OF THAT. ARE YOUR ARE YOU STOPPING FOR ROAD AT 6 65 OR BECAUSE THAT IS MY EGRESS TO GO NORTH AND SOUTH MOST OF THE TIME. UM IS AT THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE. I YOU KNOW, THAT'S THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PLACES FOR ME TO

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LEVEL FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS. AND. BEING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THEM WOULD HAVE THREE BEDROOMS THAT WOULD BE YOUNGER KIDS OR THE POTENTIAL FOR STUDENTS TO COME OUT OF THERE. SIMILAR TO SINGLE FAMILY, BUT THAT'S 76 OUT OF THE 300. UM AND 38, BUT NOT LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER WITH YOU.

IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY 55 CENTS PLUS SO ANYBODY CAN BUY A HOME AND THERE AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WITH STARTING PRICES OF HOMES, ■ARE THEY GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE, TOO? SINGLE FAMILIES THAT WANT TO MOVE INTO THEIR OR WHATEVER. I'M JUST IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ANYTHING.

EVERYBODY'S HEAD. WHAT YOU KNOW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS ENTRIES INTO THE SCHOOLS, BUT I THINK THE UPCOMING UNITS SOLD RECENTLY OR IN THE FORM OF 100 SOMEBODY ASKED THE RENT. IN THE WORLD COX COMMUNITY WHAT AVERAGE SLIGHTLY ABOVE 2000 MONTH. AND THE TOWN HOMES WILL PROBABLY AVERAGE CLOSER TO 2500. AND SO IT'S ALSO THE NEIGHBORS AND, UM WHEN WE SAY ATTACH MULTI FAMILY AGAIN EVERY UNIT HERE. AS A TWO CAR GARAGE, BUT THAT'S NOT ABOUT SCHOOLS, SO I'LL QUIT. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SWIMMING ONE ELSE? YES. JUST COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. GOOD. HOW ARE YOU ? DWIGHT JOHNSON LIVE AT 6100 GRAND RUN PLACE. AH WHICH WAS BY THE WAY THE THIRD COMMUNITY HAS BEEN MENTIONED HERE. UM JULIE, AND I LIVE IN HAWTHORNE. WHICH NORTH? OKAY? SO THERE'S THREE OR FOUR COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW. THEY'RE IMPACTED IN THIS STUFF.

SO ANYWAY, BEFORE I GET STARTED, UM JOB THAT WHAT HE DID THOSE NICE GOLF COURSE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH LANDING AND VERY SURFING THE ARCHITECTS. DR HARRISON WOULD THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK. EXACTLY, UM BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE COMMISSIONERS SORT OF ECHO ALL THE NOTES OF THEM NEED, SO I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT THEM. IN MANY CASES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PROPOSED PROPERTIES FLIP FLOP. I THINK IT WAS JUST THAT YOU MIGHT, MR FRANK. NOT BIGGEST ISSUE IS DENSITY. UM YEAH, THE IMPACT ON THE SUPERSTRUCTURE.

INFRASTRUCTURE SUPERSTRUCTURE. 6 55. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT SEEMED MORE TRAFFIC THAN ANY ENGINEER EVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD SEE. OKAY. GOING BACK TO 1984 WHEN YOU FIRST BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I GUESS. IT'S JUST GONNA GET WORSE. THE IMPACT IS JUST GOING TO BURDEN IS GOING TO GET WORSE.

UH SOMEONE MENTIONED 104 AND WAREHOUSE ROAD THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED UNDER RIGHT NOW. AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN , UM THE AMAZON BLUE CARAVAN COMING DOWN 6 65. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'VE BEEN RIGHT, SO, BUT THIS IS WHAT IT WORSE. AND I THINK YOU'VE GOT. THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE. 6 65 AND BOY ROAD BEFORE EVEN PRESENTED THIS PLAN. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW, WITH THE ONE

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PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SLOWING DOWN AND JUST LOOK AT YOUR COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE THE OTHER PART USING HAWTHORNE PARK. THERE'S A COMMUNITY THOROUGHFARE, A PARKWAY. UM. I GUESS I GUESS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW ALL I CAN SEE IS AN ADDITIONAL 700 AUTOMOBILES PLUS DAILY NOW TRYING TO TRANSFERS ARE THROWN PARKWAY. BECAUSE ACTUALLY MADE ACCESS OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. AS A TRULY DESIGNED. I LIKE MR ROCKS IDEA, TAKING IT UP TO, UH FIRST AROUND COAL CREEK. THANK YOU. GOOD. BUT ANYWAY, I LIKE THAT IDEA. THAT WAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE. FOUR ROAD AND. ANYWAY, I JUST THINK SOME SOME OTHER THINGS SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE THIS GAME, YOU KNOW TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YEAH.

JODI BURROWS, 6042 WINNEBAGO STREET. I ALSO, UM. SEND AN EMAIL TO PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALREADY SEEN IT. UM AND ALSO IMPORTANT FOLDED DISCLOSURE. UM I OBVIOUSLY LIVE IN HAWTHORN WOODS, WITH A FEW OF YOU ALREADY HAVE MENTIONED. I ALSO SAT ON THE GROUP CITY PLANNING 2050. SO I AGREE WITH MR FREE. I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS GOT TO BE A MEDIUM HEIGHT DENSITY, UM, REFLECTING BACK ON THAT, UM, FOR THE LAND USE OF THAT PARTICULAR PARTICULAR HEROES PROPERTY. UM I DO ECHO MANY COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO HAVE BURNING SETTING, INCLUDING MR JOHNSON, WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR AS WELL. SO I THINK REALLY, INSTEAD OF REPEATING EVERYTHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID ABOUT THIS BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WITH 6 65. UM AND HIGH DENSITY IN THIS PROPERTY. AH! I BELIEVE THAT THE HORSE IS OR THE CARD IS BEFORE THE HORSE. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THAT. WHETHER IT'S WHITING IT I MEAN, I AGAIN COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT THE 6 65 CORRIDOR LAST NIGHT, AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT PLUMBER RUN AGAIN DEVELOPING THAT THAT'S ALSO IN THE 2020 50. THERE IS THIS. OF COURSE THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2018. I BELIEVE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. NOTHING'S BEEN IMPROVED ON 6 65 FOR YEARS. SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA I MEAN AGAIN? I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF WORKING WITH THE CITY. THE DEVELOPERS AND OH DOT I JUST THINK THAT HAS TO BE DONE FIRST BEFORE MORE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH. SO THAT'S MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. YEAH. LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS. MY NAME IS LESLIE HAMMER GLUTES. I LOVE IT. 6157 HICKORY LONG COURT, WHICH IS AN INDIAN TRAILS AND I'LL BE ABLE TO SEE I'M WONDERING WITH THE FIRST MAKE ME A LONG COURT. I CAN LOOK AT MY BACKYARD NOW. SEE YOUR PROPERTY AND ALWAYS CHEER WHEN THE FARMERS COME HOWEVER, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. PART C IS THE AREA BY WHERE THE PROPOSED CALLED THE SAKE IS. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. WHAT KIND OF BLOCKING WITH THERE BE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. AND BORE ROAD. THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE LANDSCAPING AS A CITY ALWAYS DOES. UM OKAY, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN TOTALLY INTO THAT SINCE THIS IS PRELIMINARY, BUT YES, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE ALL DOCUMENTED . UM I DO HAVE A PROBLEM LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS SPOKEN BEFORE ABOUT THE DENSITY IN PART C AND THESE ARE WHAT ANY OF THESE BEING RENTAL. BECAUSE I JUST HEARD YOU, SIR. YOU MENTIONED RENT. BUT WHERE WOULD THAT BE? SHE WILL BE RIGHT. FRIENDS BEFORE. HE WOULD BE RENTAL AND THOSE RENTS WHATEVER RIDGE JUST OVER 2000 MONTH, OKAY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS, THEY WOULD ALL HAVE TO CAR GARAGE. WE ARE SHOWING LANDSCAPING AND FENCING. ALL ON BOARD. UM, AND THAT ENHANCED ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS. NO GARAGES. LOOK LIKE THEY'RE UNIT TO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE FRONTING. ON FOR THEY

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MY NAME IS CHRIS HINES LIVE AT 61 52 BORE ROADS ACROSS THE STREET HERE FROM THIS FIELD. MR HARRIS. THANK YOU FOR THE VIEW. ALL THESE YEARS, BUT MR SIMILAR TO YOUR POINT THE VIEW THAT YOU'RE GIVING EVERYBODY ELSE BACK THERE. NOW YOU'RE TAKING WITH ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT LISTEN, THAT'S RIGHT. SO PUTTING UP SOMETHING LIKE RENTAL PROPERTIES RIGHT ACROSS STREET FROM OUR HOUSE. ESSENTIALLY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS SEGREGATING OUR COMMUNITY. WE'VE GOT A COMMUNITY FULL OF RESIDENTIAL FAMILIES. KIDS WANT TO PLAY. HERE. THE FIELD SOLD. THEY'RE EXCITED. OH GOOD NEED TO PUT HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET WILL HAVE NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS, KIDS WHO CAN PLAY IN THE BOARDROOM. THAT'S NOT THE CASE IS APARTMENTS. SO THIS KIND OF DISPLEASING TO ME? I KNOW IT IS TO THE OTHER PEOPLE ON THE STREET. SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT WELL RECEIVED PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON BOARD ROOM. I WOULD SAY SOMETHING TO THAT TO YOUR BELIEFS UP HERE. THE PART UP THERE WHERE ALL THESE HOUSES ARE HIDDEN FROM VIEW BEHIND THE NICE PROPERTY. IT WILL BE A GOOD PLACE TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE APARTMENTS OR CONDOMINIUMS. SOMETHING WHERE YOU KNOW THAT DOESN'T BLEND INTO THIS COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY BUILT.

UM, WHEREAS LEE RODA'S. CONCERNS UM A SINGER, YOU KNOW, SEGREGATING US BY TYPE OF RESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE NOT TO HAVE THAT ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO BOARD ROAD THERE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE WISE TO PROMOTE PARKING OF ANY ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX ON A ROAD IS TOO SMALL TO BEGIN WITH. WHICH PROPOSED PROBLEMS NOW FIRE. FIRST TYPES OF ITEMS AND THEN BE YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR MAILBOXES LINE THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THIS WOULD BE MOVED. TO OUR SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SHOULD ANY DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN IN THAT AREA, SO THAT WOULD BE A COST THAT I WOULD EXPECT, YOU KNOW? Q AND KERR DIFFERENTLY. WINDS. ANY DEVELOPMENT. THIS BIG PROBLEM HERE IN THIS AREA RIGHT NOW. IT'S OPEN. WE GET WIND RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT A PROBLEM, FARMER ONCE A YEAR, WE DON'T GO OUTSIDE. RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S ALL BUSTED UP IN THE AIR. WE'RE BRINGING IT IN. YOU'RE DOING DEVELOPMENT THAT JUSTICE COMING OVER MY WAY EVERY SINGLE DAY. YEAH, I GOT CARS GETTING COVERED IN DUST HOUSEKEEPING, COVER THE DESK OUTSIDE AND BREATHING DUST. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. YOU KNOW , RESIDENTS ARE GONNA BE THERE. WHAT CAN DO TO MITIGATE THAT? YOU KNOW THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? UM ANOTHER THAT AS FAR AS ANY GET COURT GOES. I THINK IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA. I THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT IT WAS TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS. THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW BEFORE YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT. IT HAPPENS WITH BOARD.

THE SHERIFF HAD A SIGN UP THERE. I SAT OUT THERE IN MY FRONT YARD AND I WATCHED EVERYBODY DRIVING BY THAT ROAD. YOU KNOW HOW MY DRIVEWAY FOR DAYS THERE WAS A LADY GOING 70 MILES AN HOUR.

BEFORE SHE EVEN HIT THAT HAWTHORNE PARKWAY INTERSECTION. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT EITHER WAY YOU GO. YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS, THOUGH, IS THAT IF YOU DO IT THIS WAY, CAN YOU LEAVE OR OPEN? YOU KNOW, HE MAYBE GOT A FOUR WAY STOP OR LIGHT. WHAT'S TO SAY THAT THESE

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SO WE GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS THERE, YOU KNOW, AS IT IS, UH, IT'S A CONTESTED TERRITORY. GOOD LUCK CALLING THE POLICE. THEY DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA COME TO YOUR HOUSE. YOU KNOW IF IT HAPPENS, MAYBE I'M MY FRONT LAWN. I CAN CALL DIVERSITY THAT HAPPENS ON THE STREET, JACKSON TOWNSHIP. YOU KNOW, YOU PUT AN ENTRYWAY FROM HERE TO THERE. WELL, THAT'S GOING RIGHT INTO TWO DIRECTIONS. INTENTIONS RIGHT NOW YOU'RE DOING YOU'RE REJECTING HELPS YOUR PROPERTY.

SO WHO'S GONNA COME OUT? IF SOMEBODY'S YOU KNOW, MAKING A RUCKUS COMING OUT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE RAMP? SO, UM, EITHER. IT'S JUST YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A DIFFICULT SPACE BECAUSE IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT OVER THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THERE IS JACKSON TOWNSHIP. THEY'RE STILL YOU KNOW, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THERE WOULD BE NO CONNECTION THERE. I DON'T THINK THAT THE, UH, CALL IN SEX A BAD IDEA. SO I DO THINK THAT IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT TRAFFIC? LIBERTY GONNA LOOK LIKE COMING FROM HAWTHORNE UP THERE? I THINK THE QUAIL PRE CONNECTION IDEA IS A GREAT IDEA TO AND MAYBE IT'S A CONJUNCTION OF BOTH. MAYBE YOU DO A CONJUNCTION FROM 6 65 HAWTHORNE AND YOU HAVE COUNTRY COMING INTO THE SPLIT THAT TRAFFIC SO SOME DIFFERENT THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, BUT OTHERWISE I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP FOR NOW. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HI. MY NAME IS LISA KESSLER. I LIVE AT 61 80 BORDER ROAD. AND I? HONESTLY I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD THAT I KIND OF CONCUR BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S COVERED EVERYTHING THAT I'VE I WAS GOING TO COME UP HERE AND SAY, ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY ONE OF THE FINDINGS THAT THE STUFF PUT UP WAS THAT KEEPS THE FINDING WAS THAT IT KEEPS THE SMALL TOWN FIELD BUT WITH THE GROWTH AND I'LL HAVE TO SAY THAT IF YOU YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA. BUT WITH THE RENTAL PROPERTY AND THE SECTION C, WHICH WOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE , ALONG WITH ACCESS ROUTE, AND I'LL SAY I LIVED TWO HOUSES DOWN FROM CHRIS. HE'S GARCETTI. I'M JACKSON TOWNSHIP. THE ACCESS RIP. RIGHT THERE BY MY HOUSE, SO HE IS RIGHT. THERE'S THAT. YES YOU CALLED. GROUP CITY, PLEASE. WELL, WAS IT JACKSON TOWNSHIP? SO UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY I AGREE. AND MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE BREAK. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. OKAY? SEEING NO MORE HANDS. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION. OH THERE IS SOMEONE ONE. OKAY, ONE MORE. STATE. YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. MASON 23 92 REPORT ROAD. AND MY PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES, WHICH BUS TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND DISCUSSION HERE. AND I'VE HEARD EVERYONE, YOU KNOW A LOT OF TALK ABOUT ALL THE OTHER. DIRECTIONS OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT NONE ON MY SIDE. WHICH MY WHOLE EAST SIDE OF MY PROPERTY LINE RUNS DOWN THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEN I HAVE A VERY COUNTRY LIKE SETTING RIGHT NOW, AND WE ENJOY AND SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY LINE. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF PRIVACY OR BARRIER THERE OR WHATEVER. MY OTHER ISSUE IS ALSO THE TRAFFIC. BECAUSE I EXPERIENCED GETTING ON THE 6 65 EVERY DAY SEVERAL TIMES AND THE TRAFFIC IS VERY HEAVY. AND IT'S GROWING RAPIDLY ALMOST DAILY BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION ON ONE OF FOUR AND PEOPLE ARE USED 6 65 TO GET TO THE I 71 INTERCHANGE. AND I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH YOU SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC ON 6 65. IT'S NOT GOING TO LESSEN THE TRAFFIC. THERE IS WAY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ON 6 65 NOW FOR THINK THERE'S ONLY TWO LANES ONE RUNNING EAST AND WEST AS WE ALL KNOW. SO I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THAT. AND UH, IF I HEARD EARLIER, SOMEONE MENTIONED ABOUT CHANGING THE DIRECTION OF HAWTHORN PARKWAY OVER TO. QUAIL CREEK AND THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW AN OPTION. UM BUT ALSO THE THINK THE BOAR ROAD INTERSECTION NEEDS TO BE A LINE WHERE IT STRAIGHT

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PRESERVATION OF SOME TREES ON THAT PROPERTY LINE. AND BEFORE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD LIKE TO GET TOGETHER WITH YOU. AH, AND AGREE ON THAT TO SEE THERE WAS ONE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF MAYBE BETTER BIKE PATH OR FROM THE CITY THAT POTENTIALLY A BIKE PATH COULD GO NORTH THERE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET TOGETHER WITH YOU. ON THOSE ISSUES AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE BUFFER THERE. AND THEN I JUST WANTED THE DRESS THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY. IN ORDER TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY. WE NEED A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED SO WE CAN PUT IN THE CALCULATIONS AND THE MATH. UM SAID NUMEROUS TIMES BORN ROAD CALLED THIS ACT OR NOT. THAT WAS AN IDEA AND WE THOUGHT WOULD IMPROVE SAFETY. IF IT'S BETTER TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS AND ELIMINATE THE ACCESS. ON THE BOARD ROAD FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. THEN THEY CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT TAKING HAWTHORN PARKWAY AND EXTENDING AT THE QUAIL CREEK ROAD ALREADY DOES THAT. SO IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE EAST ON HARPERONE PARKWAY, AND YOU WANT TO GET THE CREEK CREEK YOU CAN MAKE A RIGHT ON BOARD ROAD AS IT IS TODAY AND YOUR QUILL CREEK. SO. IT GOES THROUGH THE NATURAL FEATURES FOR ANOTHER ACCESS TO QUITO CREEK.

WE DON'T FEEL THAT'S PRUDENT. THANK YOU. MHM SORRY, JUST ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW ALREADY BEING INTO THAT ACCESS WAY, JUST KEEP IN MIND AGAIN. THAT'S NOT JUST GROVE CITY ACCESS WAY. THAT'S GROUP CITY FROM JACKSON TOWNSHIP , WHICH MEANS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CONTROL OVER THAT. SO IF YOU ENTERED A NEW ROAD THAT'S GREAT CITY, THEN. RIGHT? SO SOMETHING CONSIDERED. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MORE COMMENTS, OKAY? JUST LIKE TO SECOND WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE HOUSING. THE TYPE OF HOUSING IS GOING TO BE PUT IN THAT AREA BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN APARTMENTS AND RENT APARTMENTS THAT DON'T APPRECIATE THE AREA LIKE PEOPLE WHO OWN HOMES THERE. AND IT'S GOING TO CREATE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC ALSO, SO I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID THERE. I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, WE'VE GOT TWO NEW HOSPITALS HERE. WHO DO YOU THINK IS RUNNING AT $2500 A MONTH APARTMENT? I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT, TOO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE HOUSING FOR THESE TWO HOSPITALS. SO THIS ISN'T $1000 A MONTH APARTMENT. THESE ARE DOCTORS. THESE WILL BE NURSES THAT THIS IS NOT JUST YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE A FAMILY OF FIVE AND $2500 DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S THE THING YOU CONSIDER, TOO. I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, TOO. BUT WHEN I FOUND OUT IT WAS $2500. AND WE'VE HEARD NUMEROUS TIMES COUNCIL. WE DON'T HAVE HOUSING FOR THESE TWO HOSPITALS. ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVING TO DRIVE UP NORTH TO COME DOWN. SO WE NEED TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THOSE FOLKS, TOO. IF WE'RE GOING, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THESE BRAND NEW HOSPITALS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A DOCTOR, IT WOULDN'T BE CALLED TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY YOU'RE WORKING AND NOT HAVING TO DRIVE TO POWER. AND STOP TO HAVE HOUSING AND STUFF SO, BUT I KNOW YOU FOR A LONG TIME. I UNDERSTAND AND WHERE YOUR CONCERNS AND ITS MONEY TO AND STUFF ONCE I HEARD THE $2500 , AND IT MADE SENSE TO ME. WELL I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE THERE WAS A BETTER PLACE TO PUT APARTMENTS THAT ENDED UPSCALE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW? NO MATTER WHERE WE PUT APARTMENTS, THEY WON'T LIKE IT. MEAN, IT

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WELL, I JUST HOPE THAT IT WORKS OUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE IN THE AREA RATHER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING IN TO. YOU GOT THREE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE ON THE COMMISSION. YEAH, THAT'S CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, MIKE. AND FOR NOW, OKAY, THANKS A LOT. THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE READY FOR EMOTION. I'LL TAKE A CRACK AT IT, BUT I WILL JUST SAY SINCE I PERHAPS THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING FOR MANY OF YOU WERE ASKED TO DO OUR EMOTIONS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, EVEN IF WE WANT TO VOTE AGAINST SOMETHING, SO I WILL MEET MAKING AN AFFIRMATIVE MOTION AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHO SUPPORTS IT OR DOESN'T CARE. I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER. 10 HARRIS PROPERTY PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN STIPULATIONS MORE THAN. AS SUBMITTED. SECOND CALL. MR ROCK.

NO. CHAIR OYSTER. NO. MR BARNES WORD? YES. MR TITUS? YES. MR FREE. NO. THIS WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. TO CITY COUNCIL. THANK THE INFORMATION GAINED TODAY WILL BE HELPFUL FOR WHEN IT IS PRESENTED ARE HOPE. THANK YOU. TO ORDER CHAIR IF I COULD. WE'RE APPROACHING THREE HOURS.

NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN AT THIS AND THE NEXT ITEM IS A RED RATHER LARGE ONE. I WOULD WONDER IF WE COULD HUDDLE FOR A SECOND WITH STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER AND ASK IF MAYBE THIS FINAL ITEM COULD BE POSTPONED, PERHAPS TO A SPECIAL MEETING. SO WE CAN GIVE IT THE FULL CONSIDERATION.

VIDEO. WHAT TIME DID. YEAH. THE HUDDLE HAS INDICATED THAT PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT DO THEIR PRESENTATION . HAVE THOSE OF YOU COME TO SPEAK ON IT SPEAK, BUT WE WILL WITHHOLD ANY FURTHER ACTION ON OUR PART. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE LET'S SEE, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PROJECT. OKAY? ITEM NUMBER 11. ALRIGHT WELL, GLAD WE GET TO TALK A LITTLE BIT WITH

[11. APPLICATION: Broadway Live – Preliminary Development Plan]

UM SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, CONTINUING RESIDENTIAL RETAIL RESTAURANTS, OFFICES ALONG BROADWAY AND COLUMBUS STREET PLAN IS CONCEPTUAL NATURE AND MENTAL ACCESS THE PROPOSED SITE AND USES. SO THIS PLAN WILL BE FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. FOLLOWING THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, THERE WILL BE A REZONING DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND THEN CONSTRUCTION PLANS. THE TOTAL ACREAGE ON THE SIDE IS 4.3686 ACRES IN HIS BROKEN UP INTO FOUR SUB AREAS LOCATED ON BROADWAY. CLUB OF ST ARE BEAUTIES AND CLEVELAND NOW. EACH SUBSECTION HAS A UNIQUE PERMITTED USES DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND DESIGN CHARACTERS THAT WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE OVERALL MIXTURES, AND IT'S HERE. AREA A IS APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE IN SIZE AND IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHWEST PORTION ON THE CORNER OF

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THE SECOND FLOOR WILL INCLUDE OFFICE SPACE BANQUET HALL AND OPEN DECK AREAS. THE COMBINED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THIS BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 2200 SQUARE FEET WITH NEARLY 8600 FT OF EXTERIOR SPACE. PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHT IS 47 FT, AND THE EXTERIOR WILL INCLUDE MATERIALS SUCH AS BRICK METAL AND CONCRETE MASONRY UNITS, ALONG WITH LARGE GLASS WINDOWS.

SO VERY B IS APPROXIMATELY 0.75 ACRES AND IS LOCATED BEHIND SOME AREA C ON COLUMBUS STREET AND OUR BEAUTIES. THE SUB AREAS PROPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL WALK UP THE UNITS. THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 14,000 SQUARE FEET WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 58 FT AT THE PARAPET.

SOME VERY C IS APPROXIMATELY 0.82 ACRES AND IS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE ON BROADWAY AND CLEVELAND AVENUE. THIS AREA IS PROPOSED TO BE A MIXED USE BUILDING WITH RETAIL RESTAURANT OFFICE AND MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPOSED BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 2600 SQUARE FEET. WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 65 SQUARE FEET, 65 FT AT THE PARAPET. I PROPOSED FACADE WILL CONSISTENT BREAK. SAMANTHA. 5% MONTH PANT PANEL. STONE GLASS, CONCRETE MISSIONARY UNITS WITH COLOR PALETTES OF CHARCOAL LIGHT GRAY RED. SOME VERY IDEAS APPROXIMATELY 1.8 ACRES AND IS LOCATED BEHIND SUB AREA ALONG CLEVELAND AVENUE. THE USES FOR THIS WILL INCLUDE MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PARKING, GARAGE AND OFFICE LEASING, OFFICE AND COMPLEX AMENITIES FOR THE COMPLEX, SUCH AS POOLS AND GYMS. THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 38,000 SQUARE FEET WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF EIGHTIES 80 FT AT THE TOP. PERFECT. THIS PROPOSED FACADE WILL BE SIMILAR IN SIZE TO VERY SIMILAR MATERIAL TO SOME RACY WITH BRICK GLASS AND FIBER, CEMENT PANTS AND PANELS. UM PREFERS. THE PROPOSED SITE PROVIDES CHANGES THE CIRCULATION AROUND THE SITE. CURRENTLY CLEVELAND AND THERE IS ONE WAY EASTBOUND FROM BROADWAY TO THIRD STREET. AND THE PLAN SHOWS CLEVELAND AVENUE BEING CHANGED TO A ONE WAY WESTBOUND TOWARDS TOWARDS BROUGHT CODES. BROADWAY UM, PLAN SHOWS FIRST STREET BEING VACATED TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FOOD HALL. BUILDING STAFF IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE APPLICANTS. IN PREPARATION FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY TO CONDUCT AND IDENTIFY APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC FLOW GENERATIONS FOR THE NEW PROJECT. THE PROPOSED PROJECT MEETS ALL APPLICABLE PD STANDARDS. THE PROPOSED PROJECT MEETS ALL GROWTH CITY 2050 GUARDING PRINCIPLES. AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, NOTING THE ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING PARKING, LANDSCAPING, UTILITIES AND OPEN SPACE WILL BE FURTHER REVIEW DURING THE REZONING AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ENSURE APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE AREA. THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO SEE COUNCIL FOR THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS SUBMITTED. GREAT YEAH, SO THANK YOU. YEAH, SO, BASICALLY, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, WE IMMEDIATELY DOVE INTO THE TOWN CENTER CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORK. THAT'S WHERE WE BEGIN . OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY EXCITING SIGHTS. THE HEART OF GROWTH CITY TOWN CENTER. UM WE KNOW THAT SOMETHING MAGICAL CAN REALLY HAPPEN HERE. AND SO OUR GOAL IS NOT TO GO IN THERE POPPING A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS. SEE? HOW MUCH DENSITY WE CAN GET. WE WANTED TO ACTUALLY BUILD A COMMUNITY HUB. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE NOT ONLY IN THE TOWN CENTER FRAMEWORK DID WE TRY TO LOOK AT IT FROM PHYSICAL ASPECTS AND CONNECTING TO THE PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE THAT CONNECTS OVER TO THE CITY SITES, THE OLD LIBRARY SITE BUT ALSO THE PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE COMING IN FROM COLUMBUS AND BROADWAY. SO WE REALLY TRY TO CREATE THAT, ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC PLAZA AREAS THAT YOU'LL SEE. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SPACES THAT WE HAD SEEN SOME OTHER DEVELOPERS, BUT THEY KIND OF WANTED TO DO THERE AND IT WAS APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY TYPICAL RETAIL BELOW MORE APARTMENTS, MORE APARTMENTS. AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT IS CREATING THIS COMMUNITY HUB. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE CITY WANTS WHETHER RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN CENTER FRAMEWORK SAID THEY WANT DINING , ENTERTAINMENT, OPEN SPACE, AND SO WE REALLY TRIED TO GO AFTER THOSE THREE THINGS AS OUR PRIMARY GOAL WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS SITE, SO OBVIOUSLY DENSITY IS PART OF THAT PART OF WHAT WE THINK THE RESIDENTS WANT IN THE TOWN CENTER. YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT APARTMENTS AND MAYBE A LOT OF RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THOSE IN FARMLAND, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS THE TOWN CENTER AND I'LL BE THERE

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NOW IT IS FOR RENT. IT ISN'T YOU KNOW TO BE SOLD, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE TRYING TO, PARTICULARLY THE ARCHITECTURE DIFFERENT THAT SUB AREAS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PLAN, PLEASE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE LIKE SEGMENTING DIFFERENT AREAS FOR DIFFERENT DENSITIES AND TRYING TO KIND OF STAGGERING TAPER UP PURPOSELY, AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE NEED FOR PARKING EITHER TEMPORARY. OR LONG TERM WITH A BIGGER BUILDING AND WITH THE BIGGER BUILDING AND THE BIGGER HEIGHTS REQUIRE KIND OF BIGGER DENSITY DEPENDS A LOT AT THIS POINT, AND OVERALL, WE THINK TOGETHER ALL THESE SUB PARCELS CAN WORK TOGETHER IN COMBINATION WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT ALREADY EXIST, AND, AS ETHAN ACKNOWLEDGED, WIN KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S A LOT TO BE FIGURED OUT. WE JUST SAW A PERMANENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHERE THEY NEED A TRAFFIC STUDY. WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE WORKED CURRENTLY STUDYING LIKE 12 13 DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION TODAY. BASED ON WHAT AHEAD OF YOU. MAY CHANGE BASED ON THIS FEEDBACK, BUT ALL WE CAN DO IS PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD OR WHAT WE THINK THE BEST DENSITY FOR THE SITE THAT WE OWN. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

AND WE WILL, IN A MOMENT START WITH QUESTIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT I JUST LIKE TO MENTION THAT WE DO HAVE SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET GET INTO IT. BUT, UM ALSO, I DO WANT TO MENTION IF WE'RE YOU KNOW, PUSHING AGAINST MAYBE 15 TILL THAN WE MAY NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO DO YOU AND US AS WELL JUSTICE AND ARE DEFINITELY THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE US ALL MORE TIME TO TALK THROUGH THAT YOU HAVEN'T VOTED YET, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S IMPORTANT. SOUNDS GOOD. YEAH, BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'LL BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. IT'LL PROBABLY BE BETTER TO ELABORATE AS WE GET QUESTIONS SO SORRY. GO AHEAD WITH THAT QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. I HAVE A TON, BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THEN PROPOSED A SPECIAL MEETING SO THAT WE THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT. AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE IT ITS DUE WORTH. YES. YES ABSOLUTELY. PLEASE APPROACH HIM WHEN YOU DO IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS AND WRITE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS DOWN FOR US. ROBERT HALL, 33 15 COLUMBUS STREET. ON GROWTH CITY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. AND. TOTAL NUMBER OF

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UM THE SCALE OF THIS UH, THE STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. ALL STRIKE ME AS SERIOUS PROBLEMS. YOU HAVE JUST NUKED A LARGE PORTION OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OF DOWNTOWN GROVE CITY. NOW I AM NOT AGAINST PROGRESS. AND I KNOW MY MEMBERS HERE. I'VE GOT SEVERAL MEMBERS HERE WITH ME TODAY. I'M NOT A GREAT AGAINST REDEVELOPMENT. I THINK THAT AREA NEEDS SOME BUT, UM JUST SEEMS TO ME IT WILL CHANGE THE WHOLE CHARACTER. OF WHAT DOWNTOWN GROWTH CITY IS. THIS AREA HERE WILL BE LIKE A LITTLE TINY SPUR ON THE SIDE OF THIS. AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO PAY A VERY GOOD PRICE FOR THIS. IF YOU LET IT GO THROUGH AS IT IS. ON A SECOND THING, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE PRESSED FOR TIME, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO COME BACK AND TALK AGAIN BECAUSE I FEEL PRETTY PASSIONATELY ABOUT THIS. WE HAVEN'T SPENT YEARS WORKING SO HARD TO BUILD THE MUSEUM OVER HERE IN THE GRANT SAWYER HOUSE AT THE END OF PARK STREET AND THE MUSEUM WE HAVE OUT BEHIND THAT AT CENTURY VILLAGE DOWN HERE. TO HAVE SOMETHING COME IN, LIKE THIS AND JUST SORT OF SHATTER THE EXISTING HISTORICAL FEEL THAT WE HAVE IN THIS TOWN.

BUT ONE THING I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE I CAN TELL THAT WE'RE GOING TO OBLITERATE ON THE STEP EVERYTHING THAT'S ALREADY STANDING AND WE DO HAVE ONE BUILDING AT THE CORNER OF ARE VIEWED US AND COLUMBUS STREET, WHICH IS, UH, WAS TRISTAN PIZZA . ONE TIME IT'S BEEN SEVERAL OTHER THINGS. IT'S A SHINGLED BUILDING. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WHAT IT REALLY IS. THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE OLDEST BUILDINGS AND GROWTH CITY DATES BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNINGS OF THE TOWN THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST ST JOHN'S LUTHERAN CHURCH. AND, UM. THAT BUILDING WAS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE DESTROYED, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EITHER IT'S NOT OR THAT IT'S MOVED PERHAPS TO CENTURY VILLAGE AT SOMEBODY ELSE'S EXPENSE, NOT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. IT'S NOT US.

IT'S INFLICTING THIS BECAUSE THAT GOES BACK TO THE VERY ROOTS OF THIS TOWN. AND ALTHOUGH ON THE OUTSIDE IT NO LONGER PARTICULARLY LOOKS LIKE A CHURCH. HMM MUCH OF THE ORIGINAL

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ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT ANSWERS. WE'VE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY STAFF ABOUT THAT BUILDING SPECIFICALLY, SO THERE'S DEFINITELY NO CONCRETE ANSWER. I CAN GIVE YOU NOW LIKE THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MOVING THAT BUILDING. I'M LINDA LEWIS. I LIVE AT 3 TO 47 LOTS DRIVE JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM THIS PROJECT. AND SOMEONE SAID EARLIER. WE AREN'T DUBLIN. AND THAT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE URBAN MEYER'S HAS HIS RESTAURANT ACROSS THE RIVER AND THANK GOD FOR DUBLIN. THEY HAVE A RIVER BETWEEN THEIR DOWNTOWN AND WHAT THEY BUILT, BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE DUMPLING TO ME. HERE IF I COULD JUST POINT OF ORDER HERE, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT A HARD OUT AND SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE FURTHER CONVERSATION. AND ASK IF THE DEVELOPERS AND STAFF WOULD BE WILLING TO HOST A SPECIAL MEETING. I WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE IN THE EVENING HOURS SO THAT IT WOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA. SO THAT'S THE MOTION. I'LL MAKE THAT WE TABLE UNTIL A SPECIAL MEETING. A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE SPEAK. I MEAN, THEY'RE HERE THEY SPEND ALL THIS TIME MEANS ON. AS LONG AS WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM. I MEAN, THERE'S NO SET. LENGTH OF TIME FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AS LONG AS WE STILL HAVE THREE, WE CAN CONTINUE. IS IT GONNA READ IT RIGHT? WHAT KIM SAID. LONG AS WE HAVE A QUORUM OF PLANNING COMMISSION. WE HAVE NO STOP TIME. THERE'S NO END TO A PUBLIC HEARING. SO BY ALL MEANS OF PLAYING COMMISSION ONCE CONTINUE UNDER THE RESIDENTS WERE HERE.

THEY'VE BEEN SITTING THERE FOR THREE OR FOUR HOURS. NOW IT'S PROBABLY BEST TO HEAR THEM OUT.

I DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD YOU HAVE A CHAIR? STEP OUT AND I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. WITH THAT? I THANK EVERYONE. HELLO PATRICK CASTRO 4016, OR BEAUTIES AVENUE DYING OR FROM THIS PROPERTY. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I LIKE THE CONCEPT. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STAY RELEVANT OR WILL BECOME IRRELEVANT. UM THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS DEFINITELY MORE PARKING BECAUSE COLUMBUS STREET IS ROBIN MENTIONED. I THINK THIS YEAR ALONE, THERE'S BEEN THREE OR FOUR ACCIDENTS. BECAUSE PEOPLE COME AROUND WITH TURN ON COLUMBUS STREET. AND YOU CAN'T SEE THEM TURNING LEFT, RIGHT? HOW TO EITHER SIDE OF OUR VIEWS. UM. IS IT GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR UNITS TO BE FOR SALE OR THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE MEDALS. UM MY QUESTION WOULD BE. WHY IS THAT IN A TYPICAL MISUSE? LIKE WE'VE SEEN IN GRANDVIEW. OR DUBLIN OR JOHANNA. SOME FLOORS OF RETAIL OFFICE. SOME BUILDINGS ARE APARTMENTS. SOME BUILDINGS ARE FOR SALE FOR CONDOS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGE OF POSSIBLE. WANT TO COMMENT ON THE RENTAL COMPONENTS OF THOSE OTHER REFERENCE DEVELOPMENTS, UM, DEFINITELY ECONOMICALLY DRIVEN. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THEY KIND OF CHANGE BASED ON THE ECONOMY. SO THEY WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNED IS ALL APARTMENTS IN DUBLIN, AND THEN THEY WHAT? WHAT BY BLOCKING THESE KEEP SWITCHING THEM, SO IT'S JUST IT'S KIND OF A DEVELOPER LEAD THING AND AN ARTIST, CURRENT ECONOMIC CLIENT, BUT CONTACTS WERE DEFINITELY MORE FAVORABLE BUYING HOLD, UM AND BY THE DEVELOPER INSTEAD OF ADDING MORE CONDO SALES AND MULTI FLOOR PRODUCT, SO I JUST WANT TO START THEIR LEAVE IT OPEN. PRETTY REUS 30 TO 78 COLUMBUS STREET. I LOVE LIVING IN THE TOWN CENTER, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT NEW RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS AND THE ACTIVITIES YOU TALKED ABOUT. THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I HEAR IS PARKING.

MOST OF MY FRIENDS DON'T LIVE DOWN HERE. UM I THINK WE NEED TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. AND THINK OF THAT. SHE USED TO THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE IN DOWN TOWN CENTER. UM I WOULD RECOMMEND IT.

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ENVIRONMENT OF GROWING CITY DOWN HERE. THAT'S THE REASON I LIVE MOVED DOWN HERE TO BE PART OF THIS AND THAT COMPLETELY DESTROYS ANYTHING I EVER SEEN. THANK YOU. CHRISTY STEWART, 31 80 PARK STREET AND, YOU KNOW, I LOVE BEING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, I CAN WALK ALMOST ANYWHERE I WANTED WANT TO GO? UM BUT THIS DENSITY IS A WAY TOO MUCH. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY APARTMENTS THERE. THE OFFICE BUILDING IS JUST WAY OVER THE TOP. YOU KNOW, I'M EXCITED THAT RESTAURANTS AND SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES, BUT IT'S JUST WAY TOO BIG. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND LOTS OF ROAD IN THE FLOODPLAIN BACK THERE THAT RELATIVES BACK THERE THEY HAVE FLOODING PROBLEMS ALREADY. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WAY TOO BIG AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE NOISE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AT NIGHT. I AM I'M RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL AND IS LOVELY. IT'S QUIET, AND, UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE, TOO. AND IF I LIVED IN COLUMBUS STREET I WOULD BE VERY UPSET IF I HAD TO FACE THAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO FACE THAT AT ALL. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU OVER THE TOP. I'LL JUST COMMENT ON A COUPLE OF THOSE COMMENTS REGARDING THE FLOODWAY. THERE IS A LARGE BLOOD WAY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY UNABLE TO TOUCH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TOUCHING THAT AT ALL. UNLESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A THEME, A PROCESS WHICH YOU KNOW WE WON'T BE EXPLORING HIS DEVELOPERS. 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN WOULD BE COMPLETELY REMEDIATED. WE WILL HAVE TO DO STORMWATER RETENTION EVERYTHING NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MEDIATE THAT IF YOU KNOW WE GOT APPROVAL, UM REGARDING SOUND, WE'RE DEFINITELY EXPLORING OTHER SOUND BUFFERING SOUND BLOCKING.

THERE WILL BE A LOT OF BIG, HEAVY STUDY INTO HOW THAT SOUND IS PROJECTED FROM THE STAGE FROM OTHER EVENTS. OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS ENOUGH TO HAPPEN AT CERTAIN TIMES. YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON THAT. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE DEFINITELY BEEN THOUGHTS OF OURS WHERE, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE SAME THINGS AS WELL. AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS OF WHAT WE DEFINITELY SHARE YOUR CONCERN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M CAROL HALL. I LIVE AT 33 15 COME STREET. IT'LL BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS, AND I ECHO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE MADE. THE SCALE IS HUGE. IT DOESN'T PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL NATURE.

DOWNTOWN GROVE CITY. WE MOVED DOWNTOWN GROVE CITY BECAUSE THEY HAD BIT SMALL HOMETOWN FEEL AND THIS DOESN'T SMEAR FEEL SMALL HOMETOWN. IT'S THE SKILLS TOO BIG. THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. I AGREE. WE HAD TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO GET THINGS DONE IN OUR HOUSE SO THAT THEY WOULD FIT IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT AND I DON'T WANT APARTMENTS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE. I DON'T I YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT CONCEPT OF BROWNSTONES AND OWNERSHIP. AND YOU'LL TAKE BETTER CARE OF WHAT YOU OWN. VERSUS WHAT YOU RENT AND, UM WE'VE LIVED IN OUR HOME FOR 41 YEARS WE'VE PUT IN LOTS OF TIME. LOTS OF MONEY, AND, UM AND THEN THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE POSITIVE. FOR OUR HOME VALUE AND YEAH, I LIKE WHAT THEY DID IN DUBLIN. THEY DIDN'T DROP IT IN

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RUNNING THESE HIGH. I MEAN, WHAT IS THE PRICE RANGER? YOU THINKING THESE APARTMENTS? SO OBVIOUSLY, ECONOMICS ARE CHANGING PRETTY DAILY AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW? REALISTICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARK BROADWAY STATION, KIND OF WHERE THEY'RE AT, THIS MIGHT BE A PREMIUM PRODUCT RIGHT AT THE HEART, SO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MARKED UP FROM WHERE THEY'RE AT, UM TO SAY RIGHT NOW WHERE WE WOULD BE GIVING CONSTRUCTION COSTS INTEREST RATE PART UNDER, YOU KNOW, FROM ONE BEDROOM. I MEAN, 1213 100 KIND OF IN THAT RANGE. STUDIOS 1 75 $2, A SQUARE FOOT AT THE TOP END LIKE 750 SQUARE FEET CONSISTENT WITH FUEL AND BROADWAY, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S BASED ON TODAY'S NUMBERS AND, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY IS BASED OFF OF TWO MONTHS AGO AS NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, AND NOW A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED. OBVIOUSLY IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, THANK YOU GUYS KNOW A LITTLE HIGHER THAN ONCE CRUMBLING AROUND, BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. AND YOU KNOW, AS A DEVELOPER SURE WOULD LIKE IT, BUT I ALSO WANT THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE, AND I WILL SAY TO YOUR PRIOR POINT ON THE MORE LUXURY FEEL APARTMENTS ALONG COLUMBUS STREET THERE, OBVIOUSLY, WE SENT THEM BACK EVERYTHING ELSE WE ACTUALLY EXPLORED INITIALLY AS DOING THOSE CONDOS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND THEN WE SWITCHED OVER JUST BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS APARTMENTS. THIS IS YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, WHY HAVE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS SEEM LIKE YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE HAPPY TO EXPLORE. UM YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD AMENDED THAT OFFER THAT AS AN OPTION AS WELL OR SOMETHING. UM SO WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN FROM THE TRANSITION COLUMBUS STREET. AND OUR VIEW IS THERE IF YOU HAD CONDOS THERE AND THEN TRANSITION TO THE APARTMENTS AND BECAUSE THEY CONCEPT LIKE IF ANYBODY'S VISITED WHO DON'T ON THE HEALTHIER IT'S WONDERFUL, AND I THINK IT WOULD ENHANCE GROVE CITY BREWING, AND I MEAN, THIS IS ALL GOING TO HELP THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE TOWN CENTER AND GOING TO HILLIARD, EITHER RESEARCH FOOD HALLS FOR YEARS. I'VE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO SEE ALL DIFFERENT ONES AND KIND OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT THEY BRING PROS AND CONS AND ONE THING THERE. I THINK THE OUTDOOR AREA WAS ALMOST AN AFTERTHOUGHT RIGHT THAT THE BIKE PATH IN THE MIDDLE, SO THEY VACATED THAT IT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF THEY HAD THOUGHT OF SOME OF THESE THINGS FROM THE BEGINNING. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO BUILD THIS HUT TRYING TO BUILD A LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME TO BE ABLE TO ORDER FOOD FOR YOUR FAMILY EXPERIENCE, A CONCERT HAVE ALL YOU KNOW REALITIES, MEMORIES WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO DIFFERENT PLACES OR, YOU KNOW. HEY YOUR SON WANTS THIS KIND OF FOOD. YOUR DAUGHTER WANTS THIS TYPE OF FOOD AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ORDER FROM ANY LOCATION AT THE FOOD HALL FROM ONE POS SYSTEM SO YOU CAN GET IN

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BECAUSE THAT HILLIARD ACTUALLY WAS THERE A FEW WEEKS AGO WITH FAMILY AND MY BROTHER IN LAW IS YOU KNOW KIDS ARE THERE RIGHT? HE HAD TO GO GET A SPOON. IT TOOK HIM 35 MINUTES. HE HAD TWO DIFFERENT PLACES TO GO GRAB FOOD TO KIDS, RIGHT GAME BACK WITH ONE THING. WE HAD TO GO BACK, YOU KNOW, GO PICK UP HIS OTHER ONE. IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S A HALF HOUR DIDN'T SPEND WITH YOUR CHILDREN. YOU KNOW THAT YOU COULD HAVE AND SO IT'S JUST THOUGHTS LIKE THAT, WHERE WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO ARRIVE. BE PRESENT WITH THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE A CONCERT OR MOVIE NIGHT OR WHAT HAVE YOU WITHOUT HAVING TO RUN AROUND AND DO ALL THAT RIGHT? SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THAT TO CREATING THAT IN MEMORY, CREATING THAT ENVIRONMENT AND OBVIOUSLY DENSITY. ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES, PARKING TRAFFIC, YOU NAME IT RIGHT FLOOD WAYS.

OBVIOUSLY, THESE ARE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE AS WELL AND WE'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY WORK THROUGH THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL IN THE PRE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. GET THROUGH THAT STUDY AND THEN MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A LONG PROCESS, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF INPUT AS WE MOVE ALONG. YEAH, QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS. I'LL THROW A FEW OUT FOR MYSELF. OVERALL, I THINK THIS IS A SPECTACULARLY GOOD THING FOR GROWTH CITY. I THINK IT WILL BE TRANSFORMATIONAL. I THINK IT'S A HUGE PROJECT THAT REQUIRES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STUDY AND COMMUNITY INPUT. I'VE ONLY HAD 24 HOURS WITH THE STAFF REPORT. AND SO I FEEL LIKE I'M ONLY BARELY SCRATCHING THE SERVICE OF IT. NOT A BIG FAN OF MULTI TENANT HOUSING, BUT I'VE BEEN LOOKED OVER THE CITY AND LISTEN TO A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS. I KIND OF THINK THIS MAY BE THE BEST PLANT PLACE FOR MULTI ATTENDANT HOUSING IN THE CITY, AND IT MIMICS. AND IS. IN SYNC WITH OTHER MULTI TENANT HOUSING DOWNTOWN, TOO. UM WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE PLAN, I WROTE, UM WHERE'S THE PARKING GARAGE? LATER? I FOUND THE PARKING GARAGE, BUT I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PARKING GARAGE. AND IF I'M ASKING QUESTIONS, LIKE IS IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, OR IS IT JUST FOR RESIDENTS? IS IT FREE? I THINK I READ 288 UNITS TOTAL IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH 199 PARKING SPOTS. I DON'T GET THAT MATH. IT JUST DOESN'T COMPUTE. I THINK WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING FOR THE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON PROPERTY. BECAUSE WHILE IT HOPEFULLY BECOMES AN EVEN MORE THRIVING UM, TOWN CENTER COMMUNITY, I THINK WILL BE DRAWING FROM 40,000 RESIDENTS IN THE GROVE CITY AREA. SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THEIR CARS? UM AND. SO I WAS JUST WRAP UP BY SAYING I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE NEEDED FROM A PUBLIC MEETING STANDPOINT, THERE'S A LOT OF DISINFORMATION OUT ON VARIOUS SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS ABOUT WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT IT IS NOT. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE US. EVEN IF WE PASS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. LET'S NOT BE BACK NEXT MONTH WITH THIS IS A ZONING REQUEST EXACTLY LIKE IT STANDS, LET'S GO OUT AND GET SOME COMMUNITY INPUT. ABSOLUTELY AND INTO YOUR COMMENT. WE'VE EVER BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER PEOPLE OF THE CITY TO FIND A MORE GLOBAL SOLUTION FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN CENTER AND WHETHER THAT HAPPENS ON OUR PROPERTY OR ANOTHER PROPERTY AND HOW THAT WORKS OUT IS DEFINITELY IN THE WORKS. SO THAT'S CERTAINLY A CONCERN. NOT YOU KNOW, THOSE NUMBERS ARE INFRASTRUCTURE. PROBABLY PUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT TAX TO RATIO THAT WE'RE FLEXIBLE ON SO YEAH, WELL, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE THERE DON'T MATCH. THE TEXT WOULD GOVERN. AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 1 TO 1 IN THE TAX.

NOT THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. I THINK WE'RE PRETTY RECEPTIVE TO THAT. AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND THE GLOBAL PARKING SOLUTION FOR EVERYONE, HOSPITALITY COMPONENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THIS, THEY FOCUSED ON HOW ARE WE GOING TO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO FOR PARKING AND NOT PAY? PARKING FREE PARKING DISAPPOINTED? WE WOULD NEVER CONSIDER ANYTHING OTHER THAN FREE BARKING. THANK YOU. AND ALSO JUST YEAH, THE 1 TO 1 RATIO IS ALSO SOMETHING WE WOULD NOT WANT TO BE UNDER ANYWAYS. SO YOU KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY CAN GET RESOLVED THROUGH THE PLAN THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, BUT WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO BE UNDER 1 TO 1 ANYWAY. SO, UM, THOSE ARE JUST THE NUMBERS. WE HAD TO PUT BEDROOM, SO IT'S BETTER TO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN WE'VE GOT ONE. THAT'S WHAT KIND OF GIVE MY FINAL THOUGHTS ON WHERE WE'RE AT. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 19 OR 20 YEARS. NOW THE CITY I'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF THESE PROJECTS COME THROUGH, UH, DOWNTOWN OR REDEVELOPMENT IS VERY, VERY TRICKY, VERY COMPLEX . BUT WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THE DEVELOPER. THIS HAS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP IF IT WORKS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKING WITH VARIOUS UTILITIES OF WORKING WITH TELECOM FIBER, WATER, SEWER ALL THAT STUFF, SO WE VERY MUCH ARE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH THE DEVELOPER. PART OF THAT

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KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET HAD PLENTY OF COMMUNITY INPUT BEFORE THE FINAL DRAFT IS THIS JUST GETS ROLLING FORCE SO WE CAN DO THE STUDIES THAT THAT DR STUDIES AND EVERYTHING OF WHAT'S GOING ON THE TRAFFIC STUDIES? APPLICATION 11 BROADWAY LIVE LIMITED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT WAS SECOND THAT. MR ROCK. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T COMMENT WITH MICHAEL. YES, THE AREA'S PRIME FOR DEVELOPMENT. I JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH NOT DRILLING IT DOWN JUST A LITTLE FARTHER. IT IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN. I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I THINK WE'RE. POTENTIALLY OFF ON THE SCALE OF IT A LITTLE BIT AS TO WHAT YOU KNOW THE DOWNTOWN CAN ABSORB. AND HAVE CONTINUITY AND FIT IN WITH. SO AT THIS POINT, I'M A NO. MR TITUS. MR FREE. YES. MR FARNSWORTH.

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