[City Council Finance Committee]
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THE GROUP CITY FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER. AMY, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL. MR SHOCKEY. CRIST MR. BARRY MR. HOLT, HERE HERE. OKAY THANKS EVERYBODY FOR JOINING TONIGHT. THIS SHOULD BE A LIVELY CASUAL KIND OF DISCUSSION AND INFORMATION. RICHARDS COMMERCIAL. SO I'LL START THE ADMINISTRATION PUBLISHED THE 2023 BUDGETS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO FOR REVIEW.
TONIGHT WE DISCUSSED AS A GROUP AND PROVIDE COUNSEL THE OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTARY. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE MAYOR, PROVIDING AN OVERALL VIEW WITH THE BUDGET AND THE BENCHMARKS IN PLACE. THEN WE WILL REVIEW AT A HIGH LEVEL. THE GENERAL FUND REQUESTS. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 16 FUNDS, AND WE WILL REVIEW EACH FUND AND NOTE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AND DISCUSS IF NECESSARY. WE WILL THEN MOVE TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR 2023 DISCUSS. REMAINING QUESTIONS ON FUNDS NOT COVERED FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WILL THEN BE ENTERTAINED. THROUGHOUT THE DISCUSSIONS IF A COUNCIL MEMBER FEELS STRONGLY AN ITEM OR MOUNT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, THEY WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR AN AMENDMENT. IF THE MOTION RECEIVES A SECOND, THEN COUNCIL WILL VOTE. IF THE MOTION PASSES, THE AMENDMENT WILL BE ADDED TO THE 2023 BUDGET ORDINANCE. THE BUDGET ORDINANCE WILL BE PRESENTED ON 12 2012 19 COUNCIL MEETING FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL. THE BUDGET IS A ROADMAP PROVIDES GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION FOR 2023. THINGS CAN AND DO CHANGE DURING THE YEAR. COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION WILL REACT AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY AND ADJUST THE FINANCIAL PLAN. SO THIS IS NOT THE ONLY TIME WE HAVE TO MAKE BUDGET CHANGES OR APPROPRIATIONS, BUT IT IS THE PLAN. WE ARE SCHEDULED UNTIL EIGHT PM AND I EXPECT WE CAN COMPLETE ON TIME. AND WE WILL COMPLETE ON TIME. I HOPE FOR INSIGHTFUL DISCUSSIONS AND ASK FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION. WITH THAT I GIVE THE FLOOR TO THE MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. WHO BROADLY APPRECIATED. MY FIRST WORDS ARE BIG. THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF. AND PARTICULARLY MIKE AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AGAIN. THAT'S PREPARED ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OVER THE YEARS I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD TEMPLATE OF HOW TO ORGANIZE A DIFFERENT, UH, ITEMS WITHIN THE BUDGET, AND MIKE AND HIS CREW AND AGAIN OUR DEPARTMENT HAS HAVE DONE ANNUAL JOB KEEPING THAT UP ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, UH TAKE VERY DEARLY. IT'S CALLING THEIR LIFE GROW CITY.
AND WE WANT TO HAVE THE BEST QUALITY OF LIFE THAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE YOU. THAT'S HOW HOW IT'S MEASURED IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS, AND WE HAVE A SURVEY IS DONE EVERY TWO YEARS, AND THAT HELPS US OUT WITH THAT, BUT ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF COURSE OF SAFETY. AND WE HAVE TWO OF THE FINEST LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE THAT'S IN THE STATE OF OHIO. LIEUTENANT COLONEL TIEFER, NOW SAFETY DIRECTOR, OF COURSE, PASSED SUPERINTENDENT HIGHER PATROL. RIGID FRAME, BRO. UH, INCREDIBLE. WE'RE FLATTERED. ADDITIONAL WILL JOIN US AND THEN YOU'RE HAVING A SIDELINE. THE RIGHT FORMER DIRECTOR OF HOMELAND SECURITY BILL PIEDRA, SO WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THE PLACE AS SAFE AS WE CAN KEEP IT. MY POINT POINT OF REFERENCE DOES IS GOING TO BE THE LETTER THAT'S IN THE FRONT OF THE BOOK AND JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. UH ARE ANTICIPATING INCOME IS 12 ALMOST 13% BETTER THAN 2021. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ACHIEVED, I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD DISTRIBUTION OF THE TYPE OF EMPLOYERS WE HAVE, AND ALSO THE TYPE OF POPULATION OF BEING ABLE TO ATTRACT. WE? WE TRY TO BUDGET SO THAT WE HAVE WHAT I CALL A VERTICAL APPROACH, AND THAT IS EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE READY. IDENTIFIED AS AN INCOME SOURCE AND HAS AN EXPENSE SOURCE. WE TRY TO KEEP WITHIN THAT VERTICAL WAY OF THE COUNTY. AND ONE OF THE TOP ONES, OF COURSE, IS INCOME TAX. UM MANY YEARS AGO, WE SENT US A BIG FORMALITY THAT INCOME TAX GENERAL FUND EXPENSES SHOULD NEVER EXCEED INCOME TAX COLLECTIONS, AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROBABLY IN THE BEST POSITION WE'VE BEEN IN. FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. I MEAN THE BEST POSITION. AND THAT, UM. THE OTHER THING
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THAT WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR THAT HAS NOT BEEN ONE OF THE ISLANDS WERE RECOGNIZING THE CAREER CENTER. SOUTHWARD TO SAY SCHOOLS AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL DO MOVE FORWARD WITH $50,000 GOING TO THE CAREER CENTER. IT'S PRIMARILY FOR ADULT WORKGROUP. UM. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE INCREDIBLE. LAST YEAR WE HAD BUDGET LIVING ME AND 1 24 THIS YEAR WE'RE BUDGET 13,000,005.AND EVEN WITH ALL THAT BUDGETING, WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF LIQUIDITY. AND THERE AREN'T MANY CITIES THAT CAN SAY THAT UM PAGE. ROMAN NUMERAL FOUR. IT GETS A BETTER DEFINITION ON THAT 100% NEVER EXCEED 100% OF THE INCOME TAX QUESTIONS FAR AS A GENERAL OPERATING SPENCER'S AND , UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT CHART THAT WE HAVE DONE EXTRAORDINARY JOB AND KEEP AN INCOME QUESTIONS. WAY ABOVE THE , UH, THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES. SOME OF THAT IS RESULT OF HAVING SEVEN OR $19,000 AND EXTRAORDINARY INCOME BY VIRTUE OF US PROVIDING SERVICES TO OTHER ENTITIES, TOWNSHIPS AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND THAT HAS HELPED OUT WE TRY TO KEEP IT LEAST THREE MONTHS OF OPERATING INCOME EQUIVALENT TO PRE MUNCH OPERATING EXPENSES AS A LIQUIDITY THIS YEAR. UNDER THIS PLAN, WE'RE ALMOST BACK TO WHAT IT USED TO BE OUR NUMBER, WHICH WAS SIX MONTHS OF OPERATING ONE ST TO OFFSET THE EXPENSES. AGAIN I IT'S AN INCREDIBLE STORY THAT WE'RE SHARING TONIGHT. THE ONE ITEM. WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND. IT'S BEEN SINCE 2017 IDLY THAT WE'VE HAD THIS LITTLE BIT MARK OF EXPENSIVE TO INCOME TAX. 2017 SO AGAIN, LIQUIDITY AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD SUCH A ROBUST INCOME TAX COLLECTIONS PLAYED, UH, PLAYED IN OUR FAVOR. THE OTHER THING, JUST AS A BENCHMARK. UM THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WE DO. EIGHT OUT OF 10 RESIDENTS FEEL THE GROSS CITY IS HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND WE CONTINUE TO THINK THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL. ENTERTAIN THIS ORDINANCE. IS THE ONE AND ONLY TIME THAT IS AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE. AND YOU CAN AMEND IT AS A GOOD CHAIRMAN SAID THE AMERICAN NOT VETO ANYTHING THAT MUCH SO IT'S A IT'S A NICE CHECKS AND BALANCE IN THE WHOLE SYSTEM. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. HEY, MAYOR. OKAY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE WILL BE, UH REVEALING THE ACTUAL BUDGET. I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT PAGE WE'RE ON. BUT WE'RE GONNA START WITH GENERAL FUNDS. BECAUSE THESE ARE THE FUNDS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE MOST CHANGES AND MOST INTEREST, I THINK AMONG PEOPLE SO WE WILL START ON PAGE 13. THIS IS THE CITY COUNCIL GENERAL FUND. SO WHAT? I'M GOING TO CALL OUT OR JUST WHAT I CALL ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES OR ITEMS OF DISCUSSION OR THINGS THAT PERHAPS I'VE NOTICED THAT I MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION ON OR IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS A QUESTION, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS. WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE. AND SHOULD BE EASILY ADDRESSED HERE. ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE? SO IF WE START WITH THE CITY COUNCIL CODE. UM, THE ONE CHANGE HERE I WOULD NOTE IS THAT WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FTZ SLOT IN HERE FOR THE ADDITION OF A DEPUTY CLERK. THIS IS. SUPPORTED BY THE FACT THAT WE SOON WILL HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS. AND THEN WE HAVE A SUCCESSION PLAN FOR TAMMY'S SHOULD SHE EVER NOT DO THIS JOB SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M JUST IT'S GOOD WHEN YOU HAVE A KEY PERSON THAT YOU HAVE A SUCCESSION PLAN AND YOU HAVE A PLAN WHAT TO DO, AND THAT PERSON IS ABSENT. SO THERE'S ALSO PROVIDES CONTINUITY ON DAY TO DAY. OPERATIONS SO SHE WAS ON LEAVE OF ABSENCE OR PAID TIME OFF. WE STILL HAVE THE CONTINUITY OF HAVING A DEPUTY CLERK TRAINED AND CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE FUNCTIONS OF THE POSITION. WITH THAT SAID THE BUDGET GOES UP. WE STILL LEFT IN SOME PART TIME. HOURS IN HERE. WE DON'T EXPECT THIS POSITION TO START UNTIL HALFWAY THROUGH THE
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YEAR. AND SO WILL ADJUST NECESSARY AS NECESSARY WHEN THIS POSITION COMES ON BOARD. MR HOLE. UM I TALKED TO CLARK ABOUT THE THREE PART TIME EMPLOYEES SINCE WE WERE ADDING A FULL TIME. DEPUTY CLERK ON THERE AND IT IT REALLY EXPANDED WHEN I WHEN I, UM TALK TO OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR ABOUT PART TIME EMPLOYEES OVERALL, THE ADDITION OF THEM ON THERE, AND I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND. WHY WE WOULD NOTE THREE PART TIME EMPLOYEES IN THE CONSOLE AND THEN AS YOU GO THROUGH THE WHOLE DOCUMENT, THERE'S QUITE A FEW PART TIME EMPLOYEES WHO IS A 10 INCREASE IN PART TIME EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE BOARD ON THERE. AND. I JUST DON'T KNOW. I I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED WHY WE WOULD HAVE THOSE IN THERE. AND MAYBE MIKE, COULD YOU GO BACK OVER THERE FOR ME AGAIN IF PEOPLE WOULD ACROSS THE WHOLE BOARD UNDER MR HOLT SO AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE IN EACH SECTION ON AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. WITH FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. IT'S PRETTY EASY. WE KNOW HOW MANY WE'RE GOING TO HIRE OR WE PLAN TO HIRE AND WE BUDGET FOR. EACH EACH POSITION SEPARATELY. FOR PART TIMERS. IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT THE NUMBER I WOULDN'T GET TOO HUNG UP ON THE NUMBER OF PART TIMERS THAT WE HAVE IN THEIR THREE WORK. IT COULD BE THREE OR IT COULD BE ONE. THE IMPORTANT THING IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE PART TIME SALARY ACCOUNT THAT WERE APPROPRIATING. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH, SO WE COULD HAVE ONE PART TIMER WORK 20 HOURS A WEEK ALL YEAR OR IT COULD BE THREE. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PART TIMERS. WE IN FINANCE, TRY TO GO IN THERE AND PUT JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MANY PART TIME VERSUS THAT THERE WAS THAT BUDGET. DOLLARS ACCOUNT FOR IT.DEFINITELY NOT AN EXACT NUMBER, ESPECIALLY WHAT WE'RE BUDGETING . WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS BUDGET.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TEAM IS GOING TO USE HER PART TIME SALARY, BUT IS THAT THE DOLLARS ARE THERE FOR HER BENEFIT TO GIVE THE READER AND IDEA ENGINEER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
KEN AND I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF WAVE SOME OF THE FORMALITY. SO IF YOU'RE READY TO ASK QUESTIONS, JUST THERE'S APPLAUSE. YOU MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION. I'M NOT I'D LIKE TO DO AWAY WITH SOME OF THE RECOGNITION OF THE PERSON WITH THE QUESTION UNLESS IT GETS OUT OF HAND. AND THEN WE'LL START THAT AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR HOLT, ROUGHLY OR JUST GENERALLY, WHAT'S IN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES? I SEE THOSE UP QUITE A BIT. IS IT SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT? ADDITIONAL SERVICES. DEVELOPMENT MONEY YOUR EDUCATION WHEN YOU'RE TRAINING, MONEY OR PAGING ON MARCH 14 13. COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL SECTION, SIR OH, PROFESSIONAL TECHNICAL SERVICES. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE $15 AMOUNT, STAYS THE SAME FOR 2023 TO WHAT IT WAS IN 2022. I DON'T SEE IT CHANGE, MARCUS. HE WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG THING. ALRIGHT SO I GOT A QUESTION AND TAMMY, THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO CHUCK IN MY IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE CHAMBER UNTIL OKAY? YOUR QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS I KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. A LOT OF STUFF IN THE CHAMBER AND EVERYTHING IS THAT ALL FOLLOWING UP FOLLOWING FALLING UNDER A DIFFERENT LINE IN CITY COUNCIL? ARE WE PUTTING THAT INTO A CAPITAL EXPENSE OR WORTH WHERE DOES IT GO IN THE BUDGET? YEAH. CAPITAL, OKAY? JOURNEY MAKEUP. WE'LL COVER IT. WE'LL COVER THAT AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, SO I WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ON POTENTIALLY PAINTING AND REMOVING THE BEAM OUT HERE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UM UM, MR WALTERS. SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT WALL CIRCLE AROUND RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON CITY COUNCIL? OKAY MOVING TO PAGE 17. I DIDN'T NOTE ANYTHING OF WORTHY OF BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT CHANGED HERE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ADMINISTRATION BUDGET? RIGHT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO PAGE 21. OH, REAL QUICK QUESTION. I NOTICED THIS BEFORE, ARE YOU ARE YOU
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GUYS NOT SUBSCRIBING TO HANNAH OR DON WERE ANYMORE? THAT THE STATEHOUSE NEWS REPORT. BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT ZEROED OUT. I THINK THAT'S DON'T WE NEED THAT? I BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT UNDER THE SAFETY DIRECTORS GETTING THOSE FROM THE OKAY FROM THE LEGISLATURE. RIGHT THE EVIL FINANCE COMMITTEE PAGE 21. I ALSO HAVE NO COMMENTS ON THAT SECTION. THAT FUND DOES ANYONE ELSE? ISN'T IT AMAZING THAT WE SPENT $12,000 ON A DEBT BOOK? I KNOW WHAT IT IS. YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER. SEEMS KIND OF FUNNY. THAT'S ALL MOVING AROUND ALONG TO PAGE 25. THIS PART'S GOING FAST. THAT'S FINE. THIS IS THE LOVE. FUND. STEPHEN SMITH FUND. I SUSPECT I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THERE ANYONE ELSE. ALRIGHT POLICE FUND. SO WE'LL START WITH JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY NOTICES THERE'S TWO ADDITIONAL OFFICERS BEING STAFFED IN 2023. THERE IS 100 AND $67,000 TO STANDARDIZE THE WEAPONRY THAT THE OFFICERS USED SO THEY'RE ALL USING THE SAME EQUIPMENT. AND THERE'S ALSO A NEW COMPREHENSIVE RECRUITING PLAN DESIGNED. TO FACILITATE MINORITIES AND FEMALES INTO THE FORCE. SO THAT MONEY WILL HELP WITH RECRUITING. IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, WITH IT SHOWS AND PRESENTATIONS. IT'S MY COMMENTS ON POLICE. ANYBODY ELSE CAN. WE ACTUALLY ASKED THE CHIEF AND THE IN THE DEPARTMENT TO COME FORWARD.OH YEAH. SO FIRST OF ALL, HAVE AN END IN CHIEF. I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS. FOR ALL THE INFORMATION. IT'S BEEN GREAT. I MEAN, IT'S ALL THE INFORMATION YOU GUYS HAVE SUPPLIED. IT'S GOOD AND EVERYTHING AND YOU KNOW I AM. KEVIN, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY. AND THIS MORNING , THE EMAIL AND EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, MY MAJOR CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE NUMBER OF POLICE AND THE MAYOR HAS ALWAYS KEPT HIS PROMISE ON EVERY TIME I ASK FOR SOMETHING HE ALWAYS GIVES UP YOUR LATER. SO I APPRECIATE THAT , SO, BUT I WANT TO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ASK BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE PROFESSIONALS. YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S NEEDED. I'M NOT. I DON'T HAVE A POLICE BACKGROUND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT I'M GOING TO AGAIN. SAY WHAT I TOLD YOU. ON ON THE PHONE. AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF YOU GUYS AREN'T ASKING FOR WHAT YOU NEED SHAME ON YOU. SO IF AND I AS I MENTIONED A KEVIN, CHIEF, IF CRAB HITS THE FAN, YOU KNOW, AND YOU GUYS AREN'T PREPARED FOR NEEDING WHAT YOU NEED, WHETHER IT'S PEOPLE, PERSONNEL OR OR EQUIPMENT WRITING THING. YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT YOU GUYS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL THAT WOULD NOT SUPPORT GIVING YOU WHAT YOU NEEDED. SO I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO COME BACK ON YOU GUYS. SO DO I THINK YOU NEED MORE OFFICERS? YES DO I SUPPORT HAVING MORE OFFICERS THAN TWO? YES BUT YOU GUYS ARE THE PROFESSIONALS AND JUST KNOW THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, I'M COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS THAT SAYS, AND I'M GOING TO SAY, WHY DIDN'T WE ASK FOR MORE OFFICERS? WHY DIDN'T WE DO THIS? WHY DIDN'T WE DO THAT? BUT SO THIS IS YOUR CHANCE, AS ALWAYS, TO ASK THE COUNCIL FOR MORE HELP, OR FOR WHATEVER YOU NEED TO UPDATE THE UPDATE THE DEPARTMENT MOST COUNCILS AREN'T LIKE THIS AS KEVIN, YOU NOTED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT WE PUT SAFETY FIRST. IT'S OUR KEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL IN THE CITY OF PROVO CITY. PEOPLE FEEL SAFE HERE, AND THAT'S WHY THEY MOVE HERE AND EVERYTHING SO YOU KNOW, WE RELIES SOLELY ON YOU GUYS TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED. HOW MANY WE NEED, AND IF IT'S GOING TO COST MORE MONEY, WELL, WE HAVE TO SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HOW TO HOW TO PAY FOR IT. BUT I JUST WANT TO AGAIN REITERATE. IF YOU NEED SOMETHING YOU NEED TO ASK, BECAUSE IF THERE'S NOT AN EXCUSE LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD IF I HATE TO SAY IT, CRAP HITS THE FAN, AND YOU KNOW YOU GUYS DIDN'T ASK FOR IT. THAT'S ON YOU GUYS. SO UM, I JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT THERE AND AGAIN. THANK YOU GUYS, FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING AND I KNOW EVERYBODY UP HERE SUPPORT YOU, 100% YOU GUYS ARE DOING AN AWESOME JOB. THANK YOU. UM, MR PERRY. THANK YOU. AND IF I CAN TAKE THE LIBERTY CHAIRMAN HOLDERS TO SAY THANKS TO OUR TO OUR MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE THE REMARKS MADE HER BUT YOU KNOW, COMING TO WORK HERE. NOT KIND OF FROM THE PERIPHERAL AND SEEING HOW GREAT OUR CITY IS AN IN
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COMING TO WORK FOR YOU AND THE SUPPORT YOU'VE GIVEN NOT ONLY TO THE PD, BUT ALL OF OUR SECURITY AND SAFETY SERVICES HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE AND SO MUCH APPRECIATED, AND I CAN SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT MR BOZO. MISTER HAYDAR. THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT YOU'VE GIVEN US AND AS I SHARED WITH ALL OF YOU, CHIEF IS NOT THE FIRST TIME HE'S BEEN IN FRONT OF A LEGISLATIVE BODY ASKING FOR MONEY FOR BUDGETS AND , UH BUT BUT THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME HE'S EVER SAID IN FRONT OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY WHERE EVERYBODY WAS APPRECIATIVE AND SUPPORTIVE. OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED AND WILLING TO VOTE YES, ON THINGS THAT THAT THAT'S THE NEEDS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT, FOR THAT. WE MAY DISAGREE ON HOW WE GET THERE OR WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. BUT WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT IT'S SAFETY AND THE BEST FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE DIVISION IS OUR MOST RESPONSIBILITY AND TASK AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.AS I SHARED WITH YOU YESTERDAY, UM MAYOR PROMISED LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME THAT WE WOULD DO A COMPREHENSIVE STAFF STUDY. HE'S THE I HAD NOT BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH. WE WERE COMING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE, AND WE DID JUST THAT WE DID THE STAFF STUDY. WE THINK WE DID A VERY CONSERVATIVE BUT RESPONSIBLE STAFF STUDY. WE SHARED IT WITH PERSONNEL. THE MANAGEMENT TEAM AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO SOME THE STAFF THAT COLLECTS THE DATA FOR US, AND THEY'RE VERY COMFORTABLE THAT WHAT WE DID IT. WE DID THE JOB. WE TOLD HIM THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO AND WE DID THE JOB THAT WE TOLD YOU ARE GOING TO DO AND WE TOLD THE MAYOR THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND WE DID THIS STUDY BASED ON UM VALIDATED, COMPREHENSIVE PROTOCOLS THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED BY THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE, THE OHIO ASSOCIATION, SHE SAID POLICE AND DR DON COOPER, WHO REVIEWED THE LAST TIME WE DID A STAFFING STUDY, AND WE FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THE PRIORITY CALLS WERE REALLY GOOD, WHICH IS AN INDICATION OF RESPONSE TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE RESPONSE TIME YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE PROBLEMS WITH THAT EITHER. ARE PEOPLE AREN'T RESPONSIBLE AND MOVING TO THOSE PRIORITY CALLS IN A TIMELY MANNER OR THEY'RE OVERWORKED THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET TO THE NEXT ONE. AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT. THAT'S NOT THE CASE. OUR PEOPLE ARE BEING RESPONSIBLE AND TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOT OVERWORKED AS I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT I'M JUST SAYING IS, UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT STAFFING LEVELS WERE JUST WHERE WE NEED TO BE FROM A RESPONSE TIME. WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO? WE'RE TRYING TO LOWER THE CRIME RATES. WE SAY THAT WE HAVE A VIOLENT CRIME RATE IN OHIO OR IN GROWTH CITY COMPARED TO OTHER SUBURBS SPECIFICALLY COLUMBUS. IS JUST WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE. WE SEE THOSE NUMBERS ITCHING UP A LITTLE BIT, AND WE'RE MONITORING THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING THOSE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM, SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THIS BALANCE BETWEEN HOW MUCH TIME WE SPEND OUR OFFICERS SPEND ON CALLS FOR SERVICE AND HOW MUCH TIME THEY SPEND ON TRYING TO READ TO PREVENT CRIME OR TARGETED PATROL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THE STUDY, AND I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ALL THE INFORMATION. BECAUSE I DID GO OVER IT WITH YOU YESTERDAY, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A WINDOW OF PEOPLE OF OFFICERS OUT ELIGIBLE ONTO TO HANDLE THIS FOR THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND WE ARE RIGHT IN THAT AND IT'S THANKFUL FOR YOU AND FOR OUR ADMINISTRATION FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. TO SAYG E NEED TO 10, MORE PEOPLE AND MR B. I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT, UM THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, CHIEF AND I BOTH WELL, I'LL THINK, CHIEF NOT NOT ME. I WAS ASSIGNED NUMBER TWO, BUT WE HAD TO LISTEN TO GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEMBERS WHO EVERY TIME SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN FOR THE STATEHOUSE DURING DOING THE PROTEST ABOUT HEY, YOU NEED TO GET MORE PEOPLE UP HERE OR WE WERE LISTENING TO THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT. SAY WE NEED MORE PEOPLE DOWN HERE. MORE TROOPERS REGARD THIS FACILITY. AND SO WE LOOK, WE WOULD ONLY HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE.
WE DIDN'T SHY AWAY FROM THAT RESPONSIBILITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF RESOURCES FROM THE STATE. IT TAKES A LOT OF RESOURCES OUT OF THE CITY TO THE POINT OF ABOUT $3.5 MILLION FOR EVERY TIME YOU SIGN OFF ON THE POLICE OFFICERS ABOUT 3.5 MILLION OVER 25 YEAR CAREER, SO I SAY THAT NOT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT WORTH IT WORTH EVERY PENNY OF IT. BUT THAT'S A HUGE COMMITMENT THAT'S USED COMMITMENT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION IS A HUGE COMMITMENT FOR YOU. ON THE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. SO WHEN WE ASK YOU FOR SOMETHING, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE THE DECISIONS ARE MAKING AND WE'RE NOT. WE DON'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY. THE LAST THING EITHER ONE OF US ARE GOING TO DO IS STAND UP HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND SAY WE DON'T NEED PEOPLE WHEN WE DO. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS BASED ON OUR INDEPENDENT STAFF STUDY THAT WE CONDUCTED. UM WE THINK THAT TWO MORE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO PUT US INTO THE HIGH END. OF WHERE THAT ZONE THAT BALANCE BETWEEN HANDLING RESPONSE CALLS AND HANDLING PROACTIVE PATROLS, AND WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE JUST FINE WITH THAT. SO I'LL LET
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CHIEF ADD ANYTHING THAT HE MIGHT WANT TO. I ASKED CHIEF CHIEF MADE ME EITHER ONE OF YOU SO I KNOW WE'RE HIRING TOO, WHICH IS GREAT AND EVERYTHING. HOW MANY ARE WE LOSING OVER THE NEXT YEAR THROUGH RETIREMENTS OR, YOU KNOW , ARE PEOPLE LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT? IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW, SIR. MR BILLY FIRST. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY MY FIRST TIME AND I WILL TELL YOU IT'S REALLY INTERESTING AND COLD . BE PART OF THE CITY WHERE WE'RE NOT FIGHTING FOR THE GENERAL EFFICACY OF THE AGENCY. I WILL IF I COULD DIGRESS A LITTLE BIT. WE'LL NEVER MAKE EXCUSES AS YOUR LEADERS. THAT'S NOT WHAT WHAT YOU HIRED US FOR. WHAT YOU HIRED US FOR MR MAYOR AND MR BARROSO AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS TO LOOK COMPREHENSIVELY AT THE DIVISION OF PLACE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READY. SO THAT COMES DOWN TO PLANNING AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THE THREE MONTHS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE VERY IMPRESSED BY WHAT GROWTH CITY HAS TO OFFER.YOU SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF WHAT THE WOMEN AND MEN OF YOUR DIVISION OF POLICE ARE ENGAGED IN DAILY, NOT JUST ON THE REACTIVE AND PROACTIVE SIDE OF THINGS BUT GOING OUT AND CONTRIBUTING POSITIVELY TO THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S TO BE COMMENDED. SO UH, I WILL SAY YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH, AND I WOULD BE REMISS DID TO STAND HERE AND SAY IF WE COULD HAVE 25 OFFICERS, OF COURSE WE WANT THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC WITH THE PUBLIC'S MORNING AND HELP YOU MAKE GOOD. ORGANIZATIONAL DECISIONS THAT HELP US GET THE JOB DONE, AND I AGREE WITH THE DIRECTOR. I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE ARE THANKFUL TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THE APPROVAL IN THE BUDGET OF TWO PEOPLE. UH, BUT WE'VE GOT GOOD PLANS IN PLACE. WE'VE GOT GREAT INDUSTRY HERE AND WE HAVE TO BE READY FOR THOSE THINGS. AND I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN THE WOMEN AND MEN THAT ARE WEARING THIS UNIFORM, NOT JUST ON THE SWORN SIDE OF THINGS, BUT THE SUPPORT SIDE THAT GO ABOUT DOING THE THINGS THEY IN AND DAY OUT TO HELP US GET THAT JOB DONE. SO AGAIN WHEN IT COMES TO RETIREMENTS, WE DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY IN THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU GUYS GO TO THE ACADEMY, YOU KNOW IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO DO THE TESTING FOR SIX. THEN YOU KNOW IT'S THE SAME. IT'S THE SAME EFFORT FOR SIX THAN IT IS FOR TWO. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M ASKING. ARE WE GOING TO BE, UM, LOOKING TOWARDS PUTTING FOUR OR FIVE IN THE ACADEMY OR THIS COMING? THIS COMING AROUND OR HOW? WHAT WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? WE HAVE CIVIL CIVIL SERVICE TESTING THAT RIGHT? SO WE HAVE A LIST AND I CAN TELL YOU I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE RETIRING. SEVEN WE'VE GOT TWO OR THREE OFFICERS ARE IN THAT WINDOW, BUT IN TALKING TO THE AT LEAST ONE OF THEM SO FAR IN MY DISCUSSIONS DURING MY ONE ON ONES THEY LOVE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO LEAVE THE CITY ANYTIME SOON. IT'S JUST LIKE ME.
I LOVE WHAT I'M DOING. BUT OPPORTUNITIES COME, SO IT'S HARD TO PLAN ENGAGE. UM WHERE THE CIVIL SERVICE TEST IS CONCERNED . I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS LAST ROUND OF HIRES WHEN MISTY RETIRED HERE JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE HAD TWO PEOPLE STILL LEFT ON THE LIST. BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE SNATCHED UP BY OTHER AGENCIES, SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT IN A DAY AND AGE WHERE EVERYBODY'S RECRUITING DURING THAT WINDOW. MR BERRY, YOU SPOKE OF IT WHEN YOU AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN MY FORMER LIFE. WE ACTUALLY DID ALLOCATION MODELS THAT HELPED US PROJECT BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE ONLY AT THE MY BACK AND CALLING MERCY OF THOSE THAT GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HIRE THOSE TWO AND WHEN WE PUT THAT LIST TOGETHER, OBVIOUSLY, THERE WILL BE MORE PEOPLE ON THAT LIST OF CIVIL SERVICE LIST. HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN SELECT FROM AS WE GO DOWN. LAST LAST PIECE I'LL MAKE IS THE ADMINISTRATION, UH, HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF US LOOKING LONG TERM. AT WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE INDUSTRIAL . THAT STAFF STUDY OFF EVERY SO OFTEN MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY IN THAT WINDOW. CAN I HAVE THIS ONE THING TO THAT QUESTION? WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THE NEW RECRUITS WE JUST HIRED WHO ACTUALLY HAD A REALLY, REALLY GOOD CABINET. CLASSY HAD JUST COMPLETED HE WAS FIRST IN HIS CLASS. WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A REPUTABLE ACADEMY, AND WE PUT HIM RIGHT INTO THE FBO PROGRAMS TO THE ONE THING IS THAT THE CHIEF IS LOOKING AT IS HOW CAN WE CURB ALIGN THAT PROCESS? WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO GO TO THE CIVIL SERVICE SCORES OR TESTING. WHAT IN ADDITION, BACK CHIEF IS ALSO LOOKING AT LATERAL TRANSFERS. SO WE MAYBE IF THERE'S WE CAN FIND A POLICE OFFICER WANTS TO COME TO OUR CITY, WHICH WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE HE HAS A RIGHT TO WORK THROUGH WITH APPROVAL. MR BOZO WORK THROUGH THE CIVIL SERVICE PROCESS AND GET THIS TEST PASSED. THAT WOULD AND THEN THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TRAINING JUST SOME FUEL TRAINING. SO THAT KIND OF CONSOLIDATES THERE'S TWO WAYS THAT CONSOLIDATING THAT REDUCING THAT NUMBER DAYS I GOTTA FOLLOW THE GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE AS WE ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW, RETAIL BRINGS CRIME AND
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ONE OF THE I THINK THE HARDEST AREAS FOR US IS, OF COURSE, STRING TOWN ROAD AND IN THE RETAIL AREAS OVER THERE HAVE, UM HAVE WE STARTED LOOKING AT SECURITY CAMERAS, LICENSE PLATE READERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THAT AREA THAT CAN ASSIST OUR OFFICERS AND CUTTING DOWN ON ON THEFT. I'VE SEEN THEFT AT WALMART TO MYSELF. AND YOU KNOW , ARE WE? WHAT CAN WE DO? YOU KNOW TO, UM HELP OUR OFFICERS CATCH THOSE PEOPLE TACKLE THEM. YEAH MR. BARRY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ONE. WE DO HOLIDAY PATROLS, WHICH WERE VERY EFFECTIVE AT DOING BUT WE HAVE SOME GREAT MONIES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SECURE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. TO IMPLEMENT FLOCK GRANT BASICALLY TO BRING IN THAT TECHNOLOGY AND WE HAVE A STRIP MALL IN THE STRING TOWN ROAD AREA THAT WAS ALREADY PURCHASING THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LINK INTO WHEN WE GET FLOCK UP AND RUNNING. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POLICING NOT JUST IN THAT AREA OF THE CITY, BUT IN ALL AREAS THAT ARE VULNERABLE TO CRIME AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACTIVITIES. THAT WE DON'T WANT HERE IN PLACING THIS FIXED CAMERAS SO THAT WE CAN USE THAT TECHNOLOGY TO HELP SOLVE SOME OF THOSE CRIMES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. PROBABLY REAL QUICK OBSERVATIONS. NUMBER ONE. I KNOW IT'S HARD TO FORECAST OVER TIME, SIMPLY BECAUSE YOUR OFFICERS ARE GOING BEFORE IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEY'RE OFF TIME AND THEN WITH OVERTIME. ON THEIR UM SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU FIND IN THE SAME THING FOR TRAINING FROM A LIFELONG LEARNER, I BELIEVE IN TRAINING, YOU DIDN'T INCREASE YOUR TRAINING ALLOCATION FOR THIS NEXT BUDGET HERE. ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE THE ABILITY WITHIN THE WITHIN THE YEAR TO MOVE FUNDS. BUT IF YOU NEED TO FIND YOU HAVE A DEFICIT AND YOU NEED US TO COME BACK TO US BECAUSE NUMBER ONE THAT OVER TIME, I KNOW IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER MANY TIMES, THE COURTS AND ALL THOSE OTHER PARTS THAT ARE THAT ARE GOING ON THAT OUT OF YOUR CONTROL. BUT I TRULY BELIEVE IN TRAINING AND IF YOU DON'T FIND THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY OR YOU CAN REALLOCATE ID ON THERE. PLEASE COME BACK TO US BECAUSE TRAINING IS ESSENTIAL. FOR OUR OFFICERS. AND JUST KEVIN. I APPRECIATE THE, UH, EDUCATION ON THE MODEL YESTERDAY. I KNOW WAY MORE THAN I EVER THOUGHT I WOULD KNOW ABOUT POLICE COVERAGE. I UNDERSTAND IT. I'M SORRY. I LIKE TO HAVE THEM. ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT CAMERAS. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY ARE THE IMPACT OF CAMERAS THAT OKAY OR HAVE BEEN SPEAK TO THE BODY CAMERAS? BODY CAMERAS, MR MAYOR, THEIR A GAME CHANGER, YOU KNOW NOT ONLY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF OFFICER PROTECTION, BUT ALSO CITIZEN PROTECTIONS. UM YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S COMPLAINTS RECALLED IN THEY GIVE US A BETTER VIEW. OBVIOUSLY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE OFFICE OR FROM THE OFFICER'S PERSPECTIVE. AH, BUT JUST THE ABILITY TO DEPLOY THAT TYPE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY. MY FORMER LIFE WE DID NOT HAVE THEM WE HAD IN CAR. AND WE WERE SWITCHING JUST AS I WAS LEAVING AND I CAN TELL YOU IT'S A MORALE BOOSTER TO PEOPLE . PEOPLE WANT TO TELL THE STORY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING DAY IN AND DAY OUT. NOT JUST FROM A QUALITY OF LIFE STANDPOINT FOR THE CITIZENS, BUT ALSO THE OFFICERS . IT GIVES YOU A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF WHAT YOUR POLICE OFFICERS GO THROUGH, DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THAT YOU REALLY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SEE. THAT THEY DEAL WITH DAY TO DAY. SO FOR US, IT'S A GAME CHANGER AND OUR OFFICERS ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND LOVE HAVING THEM. WHAT'S HAPPENING. HMM. ONE LAST COMMENT. IF YOU'RE A FORD PERSON. YOU'LL BE SADDENED TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOW PURCHASING DURANGOS. FOUR POLICE CARS. MR HOPE? CAN I TOUCH THAT ONE? WE HAD TO. WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE UH, FORD WAS NOT ABLE TO DELIVER . WE'RE WAITING AND WAITING AND WAITING. AND FRANK, DON. WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON REPAIRS AND VEHICLES ARE THAT ARE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE CYCLE, AND THAT ALSO IS A MORALITY ISSUE. WHEN YOU CAN PUT OFFICERS AND EQUIPMENT THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE IN NUMBER ONE, AND THEY KNOW IT'S RELIABLE. THEY'RE GETTING FROM CALL TO CALL. AND THAT'S WHY THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE OF PILOT PRIORITY. ONE CALL NUMBERS. THAT'S ONE OF THE BYPRODUCTS OF MAKING SURE THAT THAT THEY'RE GETTING THERE. SO Y OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON THE[00:35:04]
POLICE? CODE. HOPEFULLY, WE GET TWO MORE OFFICERS NEXT YEAR. GET THEM, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS.WE'LL MOVE ON TO PAGE 33, WHICH IS THE COMMUNICATIONS FUND. JUST BY WAY OF REMINDING YOU, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO PROCESS JACKSON TOWNSHIP, PLEASANT TOWNSHIP AND PRAIRIE TOWNSHIP. ON A CHARGEBACK BASIS FOR THIS SERVICE. ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES REALLY WORTH CALLING OUT? I DO SEE A LET'S SEE WHO'S WHO'S HERE FROM COMMUNICATIONS. ANYBODY? UM I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW HEALTHCARE WENT DOWN LIKE 20. YOU KNOW, I'M USED TO SEEING HEALTHCARE GO UP YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND THERE'S A YOU KNOW, 20% CHANGE IN 2022 TO 2023 IS THAT REAL. MR WHOLE. YEAH I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. BUT THAT'S USUALLY AN ALLOCATION BETWEEN WHETHER IT'S FAMILY COVERAGE OR SINGLE COVERAGE, SO MY GUESS IS WITHOUT LOOKING INTO THIS MORE DEEPLY, IS THAT WE HAVE SINGLE ONE POINT IS TAKING THE PLACE OF FAMILY BOYS. OKAY THAT MAKES SENSE. IT'S A MIX OF COVERAGES. YEP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE COMMUNICATIONS FUND. MOVING ON TO PAGE 37. WHICH IS MAYOR'S COURT. I HAVE NO COMMENTS ANYBODY ELSE'S QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. MAYOR'S COURT. WILL MOVE TO THE BUILDING. CODE PAGE 41. IN A HIGH LEVEL HERE WE HAVE, UM. JUST A PART TIME EMPLOYEE INCREASE. AND THEN UH, WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS $60,000 INCREASE IN CREDIT CARD FEES, WHICH AT 3% WOULD EQUATE TO $2 MILLION BEING CHARGED ON CREDIT CARDS THAT WERE PAYING THE 3% FOR SO I'M JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SEEN THAT AND PERHAPS AS A PLAN TO RECOUP THAT, OR MAKE A CHANGE OR SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD. UM I COULD RESPOND TO THAT. WE'RE VERY AWARE OF THIS SITUATION AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT JUST STARTED OFFERING. UH THE SERVICE THE CREDIT CARD SERVICE THIS YEAR, SO THAT IS A CONVENIENCE FACTOR FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR DEVELOPERS. AND THESE TRANSACTIONS TEND TO BE A LOT LARGER TRANSACTIONS THAN WE SEE. IN OR OTHER DEPARTMENTS. MR BOATS HAS NOT HERE BUT HE HAS.
HE HAS, UH, DATA. I THINK THIS IS COSTING US MORE THAN 3% AT THIS POINT. THIS IS SIMPLE THAT AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE MAYOR AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RECENTLY AND JUST TODAY WE HAVE A PLAN FOR OR OUR CREDIT CARD PROCESSOR TO COME IN. AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS SITUATION AND JUST LET ME EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE. WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE THAT ENABLED US TO COLLECT CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS. THEY DIRECTED US TO. THERE'S A GATEWAY, SO THE SOFTWARE HAS TO SPEAK TO A GATEWAY. AND THEN THE GATEWAY IN TURN. PUTS THE TRANSACTIONS TO A MERCHANT. SO WE HAD NO CHOICE OF WHO WE CAN CHOOSE AS THE GATEWAY IN THE MERCHANT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TOLD. AND THIS HAS ONLY BEEN GOING ON ABOUT A YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK DEEPER INTO THIS TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY WAY WHERE WE CAN GET THIS BACK. TWO. OUR MERCHANT WHO WE USE WITH HEARTLAND BANK, AND THEN OUR FEES WOULD BE BETTER, AND WE ALSO HAVE A WAY TO MITIGATE THOSE BEES WITH COMPENSATING BALANCES. SO I DON'T HAVE THE FINAL ANSWER, BUT WE'RE AWARE OF IT AND WORKING ON IT IT OUT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON BUILDING CODE BUILDING FUND. MOVING ONTO LANDS AND BUILDINGS PAGE 45. HIGH LEVEL HERE. WE HAVE FOUR NEW FULL TIME POSITIONS. MR HOLT? YES. JUST FOR THE RECORD. WHAT? WHAT ARE THE FOUR POSITIONS? UM, ADDED POSITIONS IN. EXCEEDING PROBLEM . GOOD EVENING. I THINK IT'S UM IMPORTANT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE FUNDS THAT GO TOWARDS THE PUBLIC
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SERVICE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT PUBLIC SERVICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT JUST YOUR STREET MAINTENANCE AND UTILITIES, BUT ALSO YOUR FACILITY MAINTENANCE YOUR PART MAINTENANCE, URBAN FORESTRY AND FLEET MAINTENANCE. SO UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS CONTINUING TO GROW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CATEGORIES SOLID BETWEEN FIVE AND 9% INCREASE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. AND OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IT'S CONSISTENTLY BEEN AT A MINIMUM OF 5% INCREASE SO MORE THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF, OBVIOUSLY, UM JUST THIS COMING YEAR AND OUR URBAN FORESTRY DEPARTMENT THEY MANAGE ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS FOR MOWING AND LANDSCAPING AT ALL OF OUR ENERGY CHANGES ARE NORTH MEADOWS DRIVE OUR BUCKEYE PARKWAYS, AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING ON GYULA PARK, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A REALLY SIGNIFICANT MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER DAY TO DAY DUTIES, SO ONE OF THE POSITIONS IS GOING GOING TO BE IN URBAN FORESTRY TO HELP MANAGE THOSE THINGS. UM ONE OF THE POSITIONS IS GOING TO BE A SERVICE TECHNICIAN AND STREET MAINTENANCE. SO UM, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A STREET MAINTENANCE DONE, THAT IS ROADWAYS. THERE ARE ITEMS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT DON'T COME FROM THE STREET MAINTENANCE LIKE YOUR STORM SEWERS SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A STORM UTILITY, AND SO AS THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL THOSE PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE GROW, WE NEED TO SUPPLEMENT THAT DEPARTMENT. AND THEN, ADDITIONALLY, OUR FACILITY MAINTENANCE, UM DIVISION. THEY ARE CURRENTLY STAFFED WITH A SUPERVISOR AND ONE FULL TIME POSITION. AND THEN SUPPLEMENTED WITH PART TIME POSITION AS WE HAVE MORE AND MORE OF THE SPECIALTY PROJECTS AND MORE BUILDINGS LIKE THE THREE BUILDINGS DOWN AT BROADWAY MANTRA COMING ONLINE, WE NEED TO BRING ANOTHER FULL TIME POSITION THERE AND THEN WITHIN THAT SAME DIVISION. THEY HANDLE ALL OF WHAT WE CALL FACILITY SERVICES, WHICH IS OUR CLEANING OF ALL OF OUR CITY FACILITIES. 31 BUILDINGS. UM, AND THAT IS CURRENTLY JUST HAS ONE FULL TIME POSITION AND ALL PART TIME WE SEE A TON OF TURNOVER IN THAT. WE NEED TO BRING ON A FULL TIME PERSON TO GET SOME OWNERSHIP AND NOT HAVE OUR SUPERVISORS IN HERE CLEANING AT FIVE A.M. BEFORE THE REGULAR SHIFT, WHEN ARE PART TIME CUSTODIANS TURNOVER? SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR DISTINCT AND IT KIND OF HIT ON A COUPLE OF THE POINTS THAT I WANTED THEM TO ASK YOU ABOUT, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PART TIME EMPLOYEES. YOU KNOW IT, DO WE END UP GETTING BETTER SERVICE BY DOING FULL TIME? THEN CUTTING SOME OF THOSE PART TIME OUT TO MAKING FULL TIME POSITIONS AND BECAUSE OF OWNERSHIP BECAUSE OF HEALTH CARE, YOU KNOW? IS IT EASIER TO GET PEOPLE THAT WAY IF YOU CAN CREATE A FULL TIME POSITION ATTITUDE, PART TIME POSITIONS. I THINK THAT WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY LUCKY OF GETTING THE BEST THAT YOU CAN OUT OF A PART TIME STUFF. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENCES IN YOUR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES VERSUS YOUR PART TIME STAFF, BUT WE HONESTLY COULDN'T MANAGE OUR DEPARTMENT WITHOUT THOSE PART TIME STAFF. WE HAVE A LOT OF SEASONAL ACTIVITIES THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BRING ON FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AND THEN WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF MOWING TO DO OR DON'T HAVE A TON OF BALL DIAMONDS TO PREP FOR TOURNAMENTS AND WHATNOT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ACTIVITY FOR, SO IT'S DEFINITELY A BALANCING ACT. WE LOOK AT IT CLOSELY AND MONITOR WHERE IT IS , BUT WE ALSO TRY TO DO IN THOSE PART TIME EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AS GROOM, FOLKS, AND THEN WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GREAT WORKERS. THEY'VE COME BACK A FEW SEASONS AND WHEN WE DO HAVE A FULL TIME POSITION OPEN JUST THIS PAST YEAR IN PARK MAINTENANCE. WE BROUGHT ONE OF OUR PART TIME EMPLOYEES AND HE'S NOW FULL TIME AND WE KNOW HE'S A GREAT FIT ALREADY BECAUSE HE SPENT TIME WITH US AND KNOWS A LOT OF THE SKILLS TO YOU REDUCE SOME OF THAT TRAINING AS WELL.SO IT'S DEFINITELY A BALANCING ACT. BUT I WOULD NOT. I THINK THE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES WE'VE REQUESTED RIGHT NOW FIT THE NEEDS OF OUR DEPARTMENT. UM, CINDY. BEAUTIFICATION. OF SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. IS THAT IN THIS? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. YES, I SEE PAGE 48. THAT'S THE PART COULD BE ABLE WHERE WOULD. SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. BEAUTIFICATION ITEMS BE, IS IT IN THIS CODE, OR IS IT AND IT'S FUN OR SOMEWHERE ELSE? UM I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM FOR SELFLESS BEAUTIFICATION WITH THIS IS THE FUND THAT WE WOULD DO SOME OF THAT WE HAVE, UM CERTAIN LINE ITEMS THAT WE TAKE ON BEAUTIFICATION TYPE PROJECTS OUT OF A LOT OF IT IS IN, UM. PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, SO WE HAVE SOME OF OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS THAT WE CAN ADD THINGS TO. AND THEN WE HAVE GENERAL LANDSCAPE THAT MAINTENANCE, UM, LINE ITEM AND THEN. ALL OF THOSE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS ARE IN THERE, BUT THIS IS THE FUN, BUT THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM FOR SOUTHWEST FLORIDA HAS A COMMENT AND I'VE TALKED TO CHUCK ABOUT THIS BEFORE ABOUT SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD AND THE OPEN DITCH AND I REALIZED WE CAN'T IT WOULD BE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE, TOO. HAVE TO DITCH COVERED IN AND EVERYTHING BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO BEAUTIFY THAT? THAT THAT AREA BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS REALLY, REALLY BAD WITH THE WITH
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THE TALL WEEDS AND, UM, I DON'T. I MEAN, IT JUST LOOKS BAD. I MEAN, WE SPENT MONEY ON THE MEDIAN AND EVERYTHING, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK OVER TO THE SOUTH OF SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD, YOU'VE GOT DITCHES FULL OF TRASH. YOU'VE GOT, UM TALL WEEDS YOU'VE GOT. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE FLOODING AND EVERYTHING. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE TOTAL WASHOUT. UM I KNOW THERE'S THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.UM I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WOULD BE TO DO THAT. AND, UM AND MAYBE THE BUDGET IS SOMETHING WHERE WE ASKED FOR ENGINEERING TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO BEAUTIFY THAT RATHER THAN FUND SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE IN THE IN THE BUDGET NOW, SO, CHUCK, I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD HOW? HOW CAN WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT? I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY COMMIT WITH THE FUNDS. WE HAVE NOW TO LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. THAT AREA IN TERMS OF WITH ENGINEERING. IT'S IN A FLOODWAY. THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN DO. WE CAN'T DO, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK TO IMPROVE THAT. THE LOOK OF THAT AREA. SO IF WE IF WE WERE, IF WE WERE TO PUT A YOU KNOW $50,000 IN THE BUDGET TO HELP DO THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING IN SOME STONE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING IN SOME STUFF LIKE THAT. WOULD WOULD. I MEAN THAT WOULD AT LEAST GET THE BALL MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? AND AGAIN I'M WITH THAT AREA BEING A FLOODWAY, IT'S DIFFICULT. FOR ME. IT'S A LATE PERSON TO SAY WHAT EXACTLY CAN WE DO? BUT CERTAINLY MAYBE WE CAN IMPROVE THE BANKS OF THOSE AND PUT SOME GREASE IN BUSHES. YES I'VE SEEN I'VE SEEN WHERE THEY PUT THEM BIG GIANT BOULDERS AND LIMESTONE MHM ON DRIVEN IT RECENTLY, BUT, UM, WE JUST ADDED SOME IN THAT DITCH RIGHT BEFORE IT TAKES THE TURN AND GOES UNDER THAT PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. UM, TO, YOU KNOW, USUALLY USE THAT. NOT NECESSARILY AS A BEAUTIFICATION TECHNIQUE, BUT AS A EROSION PREVENTION TECHNIQUE, AND THEN IT ALSO, YOU KNOW YOU CAN SPREAD THE STONES OF THE WEEDS. DON'T COME UP THROUGH IT, BUT I WOULD ALSO ADD TO THAT THAT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THAT AREA HAS SEEN ABOUT 2.5 YEARS OF CONSTANT CONSTRUCTION, AND THAT FRONTAGE IS GOING TO SEE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION WITH THE OUT PERSONAL THEY'RE DEVELOPING FOR THEM THE STRIP MALL, BUT AS THOSE PIECES COME TOGETHER AND FINISH, UM WE DO MAINTAIN THAT DITCH OUT. MY DEPARTMENT AND, UT I CAN'T SAY THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT IT IS LITTER CONTROL. UM AND SO THEY ARE MONITORING THAT FOR TRASH. WE ALSO TRY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND MAKE SURE THEIR CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS IS GETTING OUT OF THERE. BUT NOW THAT THE CORRIDOR IS COMING TO COMPLETION AND FROM CONSTRUCTION, WE WILL BE ABLE TO BETTER MAINTENANCE THAT, UM, YOU MAY NOT HAVE NOTICED, BUT THERE IS A SPECIFIC MOWER IN UNDER EQUIPMENT THAT'S IN THIS BUDGET THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MO. BETTER ON STEEPER INCLINES THAT ARE WET SO THAT OUR MILLER'S DON'T GET STUCK. AND SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THAT MY GUYS ASKED FOR THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THERE LIKE WE HAVE A HARD TIME WE HAVE MOTORS THAT GET STUCK MOWING THAT DITCH, BUT WITH THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, WE CAN DO IT. AND SO I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S CERTAINLY LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES TO BEAUTIFY IT, BUT I THINK THAT WILL BE ABLE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MAINTAINING IT. THEN WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO TO THE CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA. IN MY IN MY POINT IS FROM THE BIKE PATH TO THE ROAD TO THE CURVE IS WHERE WE NEED SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THEIR SOMEHOW I MEAN, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL AGREE IT DOESN'T LOOK GREAT. YEAH SO I MEAN, I WOULD I WOULD I WOULD MOVE TO ADD $50,000 FOR SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD BEAUTIFICATION INTO THE BUDGET.
IF ANYBODY WOULD SECOND, IT WHAT'S SECOND. JUST A BIT. CLEAR YOU'RE ASKING TO ADD ON PAGE 48.
UNDER LANDS AND BUILDINGS. $50,000 FOR SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. DITCH. BEAUTIFICATION REHABILITATION OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, IT'S TRUE. IT'S THE ONLY AREA OF THE CITY THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T OPEN DITCH LIKE THAT. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE OTHER ONE SOMEPLACE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MR SHARKEY. MR CIGARETTES? YES BARRY, YES. NO. JUST MAYBE ADD IN TERMS OF SPEAKING THAT SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD CORRIDOR. CERTAINLY WE'VE MADE GREAT IMPROVEMENTS IN THERE WITH THE ABSOLUTELY THE STREET LIGHTS AND WITHIN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WE'VE PROPOSED 400,000 TO CONTINUE THE STREET LIGHTING FROM WHERE TERMINATES TO THE WEST CLEAR UP TO BROADWAY, SO THAT'S VERY NICE OF IMPROVEMENT. THANK YOU AND CINDY IF I COULD ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION WHAT HE GETS IN ALLOTMENT. YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO WHEN IT COMES TO OUR NATURE EASEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE THE
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ONE RUNNING THROUGH BUELLER. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE RUNNING THROUGH THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE CITY. UH WHAT'S THAT? MYERS AND WHAT I CAN. I MEAN, THEY NEED TO BE? I MEAN, THEY LOOK LIKE OPEN PRAIRIE RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MEAN IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD GET ANY? I MEAN, THROUGH OUR NORMAL TREE ALLOCATION. GET SOME TREES IN THOSE AREAS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT THOSE PIECES OF PROPERTY AREN'T OURS. GOING THROUGH VIOLA IS NOT IN THE CITY'S NAME. THAT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY TO DO ANYTHING ON AND I BELIEVE THE SAME WITH THE MIRE WHEN THAT'S NOT THE CITY FROM RIGHT? YEAH OK. YEAH. THEY NEED TO BE TREATED SOMEHOW. THAT YOU KNOW, HELPS WITH WATER RETENTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT ALL RIGHT, I'LL BRING THAT UP, OKAY? THANK YOU. IF I MAY TAKE A TURN THIS PAST YEAR, UH, CITIZENS APPROACHED US ABOUT. PROPER YOUNG SHELDON ABOUT, UH, I'M SORRY, UM, FIRE HYDRANT THAT WAS IN BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES AND THEY WANTED TO COME TO COUNCIL AND THEY WANTED TO TALK, AND I WAS ASKED TO YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ASKED THEM NOT TO COME AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. AND I UNDERSTAND WE JUST RECENTLY TOOK OVER THE JACKSON CHALLENGE SHIP , YOU KNOW, KIND OF PREVIOUS RESPONSIBILITIES OF REPAIR MAINTENANCE. AND I'M CURIOUS. IS THAT KIND OF WORK OF RURAL TAKE CARE OF IT. I'M LOOKING FOR ANYTHING TO DO WITH FIRE HYDRANTS OR MAINTENANCE. THAT IS THAT IN HERE IS A HYDRANT.MAINTENANCE WILL FALL UNDER THE WATER BUDGET, NOT THIS ABILITY TO START. OKAY SO WE'LL WAIT FOR THAT. I'LL SAVE MY PENNY. ONE QUICK QUESTION WITH $30,000 WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. WE TALKED ABOUT TREES. A LOT OF THAT THE CITY NEEDS A LOT MORE TREES. UM IS THAT I MEAN, I'M LOOKING. THAT'S $35,000 IS NOT A LOT FOR TREES FOR THE CITY. I KNOW WE WANT SOME DOWN SOUTH. WE WANT SOME DOWN BROADWAY. WE NEED SOME DIFFERENT AREAS THAT THE MAYOR'S MENTIONED IS 35,000 MAYOR CHUCK ENOUGH MONEY TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THE TREES THAT WE WANT TO GET CHANGED IN 23 RAISED IT. JUST ASKING. YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? IT IS. IT WENT FROM 35,000 TO 50,000. AND THEN TREE REMOVAL REPLACEMENT WENT FROM 30,000 TO 35,000. SO I'M JUST BRINGING UP THE CONVERSATION BEING THAT WE, UH, WE ADDRESSED THAT EARLIER IN THE YEAR AS A AS A PRIORITY, THAT'S ALL. THIS ISN'T THIS IS ALSO NOT THE ONLY SPOT BUT TREES COME OUT OF WIND DEVELOPERS PAY INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL FUND. THEN THERE IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO USE FUNDING, SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO COVER ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTINGS. CINDY I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN BROOKE ABOUT BROOK PARK IN HERE. WHEN DO WE TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE AND THE UTILITIES FOR BROOK PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. PRESENTLY UNDER THE AGREEMENT IS WHEN IT BECAME EFFECTIVE SO IT'S NOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING IN HERE OR PERCH FILETS HERE SOMETHING. IT'S PART OF THE REGULAR UTILITY SERVICE SERVICES. IT'S BUILT IN UTILITIES AND SEVERAL OF THE BUDGET SO THAT SOME OF THEM OUT AND I DIDN'T SEE IT. OKAY, GREEN. MR HOLD, WANT TO RESPOND AGAIN ON THE FOR HYBRID. UM AS I SAID THE OTHER NIGHT AND CAUCUS.
I OWN THAT. AND WE'RE WAITING ON A NUMBER FROM JACKSON TOWNSHIP. AND ALSO AN EXPLANATION. WHY DIDN'T BEING REPAIRED BY THE TOWNSHIP? MR BOZO SIGNED THE AGREEMENT, PROBABLY THREE WEEKS AGO NOW. AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER HYDRANTS THAT ARE NOT DONE. AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE TOWNSHIP. THANK YOU. INTERESTING. ALRIGHT. THANKS, CINDY. LANDS AND BUILDINGS. LET'S SEE. WE JUST COVERED LANDS AND BUILDINGS. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON LAYING SOME BUILDINGS. ALL RIGHT, MOVING TO PARKS AND REC PAGE 51. UH, THREE NEW FT AREA TO NEW F T L C. COUPLE PART TIME AND ONE FULL TIME FTE. THAT'S THE CHANGE THERE. QUESTIONS COMMENTS, PARKS AND REC. I HAVE ONE QUESTION, SIR. WE MENTIONED CHUCK NET THAT WE'RE GETTING RID
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OF THE BARN OVER IT. UM OVER AT THE PARK AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT IS THE REMOVAL OF THAT IN HERE. ARE YOU TAKING IT FROM ANOTHER FUN? NOT SPECIFICALLY AND AGAIN. UH IT'S AN ONGOING SAGA WITH WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY. TODAY WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH THE LAW DIRECTOR, MR TURNER AND MYSELF WITH CORNER GROUP. TO SEE IF, IN FACT THERE WAS ANY COVERAGE THAT THE COURT WILL DECIDE NOW, SO I BELIEVE I HOPE THAT WE'LL GET A SETTLEMENT FROM THEM THAT WILL COVER THAT DEMOLITION COSTS. AH ONE THAT WILL COME. I'M NOT POSITIVE. IF IT TAKES TOO LONG.WE'LL COME BACK IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO TAKE THAT DOWN, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET FUNDS AT LEAST. COVER THE DEMOLITION COSTS. ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT REPLACING IT AND SOME FASHION? WE ARE WE? WE CERTAINLY WANNA PRESERVE THAT PROGRAM. UH CERTAINLY MR. DIRECTOR CONRAD CAN TALK. TALK TO THAT. BUT WE'RE LOOKING NOW EVEN GETTING PRICING FOR PORTABLE CLASSROOMS TO PUT IN THERE AND OTHER LOCATIONS THAT THAT WE MAKE FACILITATE THAT REX SCHOOL AS IT PRESENTLY EXISTS. THERE IS AN ITEM IN THE THERE IS AN ITEM IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR AGAINST BAR AND ALSO $750,000 IN THERE FOR THAT . THAT'S IT. THAT'S GOING TO BE A PRIORITY BECAUSE THOSE THAT PROGRAM IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US. HE WAS IT'S GONNA READ. I THINK SHE WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, TED. HMM I DO A PRETTY, UM, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM AND JUST TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT PROGRAM INDIVIDUALLY. UM THEN WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON, UM, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT IDEAS. WE'RE JUST WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW THE IDEAS OF DOES IT? DOES THE PRESCHOOL PROGRAM HAVE TO STAY AGAINST PARK? ARE THERE OTHER PLACES THAT IT COULD GO WORKING WITH THE STAFF THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT PROGRAM, AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO RETAIN IT AS A NATURE BASED PROGRAM. AND BE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC. THAT IS THE SAME QUALITY OR BETTER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. NICE SPIN OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE TRAIL AND EVERYTHING RIGHT? YOU MADE MENTION WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, IN TERMS OF THE ACTIVITIES, SO, UM WITH THE LOSS OF HAVING A PERMANENT.
SPACE THAT WE THAT WE CAN USE WITH HAD TO GET A LITTLE CREATIVE AND WE'VE GONE TO OFFERING A NATURE KIDS PROGRAM. UM BASICALLY INTO SERIES OF TWO WEEK PROGRAMS THAT PARENTS CAN SIGN UP FOR IT. YOU KNOW WHATEVER WORKS INTO THEIR SCHEDULE. AND THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. IT'S UM OPERA. UH, TWO DAYS A WEEK. LIKE 22 SESSIONS TWO DAYS A WEEK FOR TWO WEEKS, AND WE'VE BEEN OFFERING IT AT DIFFERENT PARKS. UM DURING THE FALL TO WHERE THE KIDS COULD BE OUTSIDE, NOW THAT IT'S GOTTEN COLDER, UM, WE ARE USING BOTH THE EAGLE PAVILION AND THE KINGSTON CENTER IN ORDER TO GET THEM INDOORS WHEN. THE WEATHER STARTS TO BREAK IN THE SPRING WILL PROBABLY MOVE THEM BACK OUTSIDE, BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE PARENTS AND THE KIDS IN THE STAFF REALLY ENJOY THAT. THEY LIKE THAT PROGRAM OUTSIDE. IT'S BEEN WORKING REALLY WELL. YES THE PROLIFERATION OF PICKLEBALL COURTS. I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT I'M INTERESTED IN THE ABILITY TO FOR OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS TO RESERVE AND COORDINATE TOURNAMENTS. UTILIZING OUR COURTS. THIS YOU HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO HANDLE THAT. SITUATION ONCE WE CREATED , IT'S PART OF, UM AND HIRING A NEW FULL TIME SPORTS COORDINATOR TO WORK WITH OUR CURRENT SUPPORT SUPERVISOR. UH HUH. THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS THE ADDITION OF ALONG WITH OTHER OTHER SPORTS, BUT PICKLEBALL WAS CERTAINLY INVOLVED IN THAT, YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON PARKS AND REC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IN THE PAGE 55. FLEET MAINTENANCE. ANY QUESTIONS ON FLEET MAINTENANCE. ALRIGHT PAGE 59 KODA. ALRIGHT AND THAT'S MY NOTE GENERALLY. GOVERNMENT. AND I ALREADY LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG THERE. UM GOOD COSTS HAVE GONE UP SEVEN OR 9000 CODA HAS A DON'T FORGET MY NUMBER RIGHT NOW. $407,000 INCREASE FOR KOTA. SO YOU ALL HAD A HAND OUT. AT YOUR DESK HERE WHEN WE ARRIVED
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FOR KOTA. AND I JUST WANTED TO OPEN UP FOR ANY DISCUSSION ON KODA UTILIZATION PROGRAM LOOKING FORWARD. AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THAT. MR BOZ. OKAY THANK YOU. JUST ASK. JUST FUNDAMENTALLY WATCH. WHY ISN'T THERE A WEEKEND SERVICE JUST UH, THERE COULD BE WE LOOKED AT. AS YOU KNOW, THE PRICE OF THIS IS PROBABLY $700,000 FOR THE FOR THE FIVE DAY OPERATION TO ADD THAT ANOTHER TWO DAY WEEKEND AND DON CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IS THAT ABOUT 250,000? BE ANOTHER 250,000. SO IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE AND WE CERTAINLY HEAR THE NEED FOR THAT. AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT. ANDY. SO CHECK I'M. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE WEEKEND SERVICE , BUT ONE THING THAT I AND I THINK HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB. DON'T GET ME WRONG. I THINK THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT WHAT THEY FAIL AT STILL IS MARKETING. I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE MARKETING TO OUR BUSINESSES AND THEIR MARKETING ENOUGH. TO YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE ENTITIES, AND I THINK WE NEED TO LET MORE AND MORE PEOPLE KNOW ESPECIALLY OUR BUSINESSES THAT IT'S AVAILABLE.SO YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT THE WE EXPECT THEM TO MARKET MORE THAN WHAT THEY'RE DOING. UM WE NEED THEM. YES, THEY DO A GOOD JOB, BUT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THEM, AND IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL. IF WE COULD HAVE MR WALTERS COME UP IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY RELATIONS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND TRY TO JUST SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THAT, THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE NOT ONLY FOR RESIDENTS, BUT FOR THOSE BUSINESSES THAT NEED TO GET THAT EMPLOYER EMPLOYEE TODAY. LAST MILE LOCATION. RIGHT UM, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT'S BEEN DOING REALLY. IT'S A LABOR INTENSIVE JOB TO GO MEET WITH EACH ONE OF THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS AND CONVINCED THEM THAT IT'S WORTH THE EFFORT TO START INDOCTRINATING ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES, BUT WE HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT SUCCESS AND ON THE HINT, HANDOUT WE HANDED OUT TODAY AS WE'VE GOT THE THESE ARE THE TOP 10 THAT HAVE REALLY JUMPED IN. AND THEN PART OF THE PROCESS OF GETTING US UP TO HMM . 32,000 TRIPS WE'VE MADE SO FAR THIS CODE OF PLUS HAS MADE SO FAR THIS YEAR. WE ALSO HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING WITH CODA, BUT THE PHONE WHERE BACKS TO TALK ABOUT. WHAT KIND OF WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED DURING THE ACTUAL CALLS AND EVENTS AND THEY ARE NOW ALSO OFFERING ANY KIND OF HANDOUTS THAT THE CALLERS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THE CALLS NEED AND POSTERS FOR THE EACH ONE OF THE BUSINESSES. AND IT'S BEEN REALLY, REALLY SLOW, CONVINCING THE EMPLOYERS THAT. THEY NEEDED TO HELP US TALK THEIR EMPLOYEES AND TWO BUT WE ARE MAKING A LOT OF HEADWAY. SO DON. DO YOU DO A GREAT JOB. I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M WHAT? I'M WHAT? I'M THROWING IT BACK ON HIS KODA. KODA HAS A HUGE MARKETING BUDGET AND THEY COULD ACTUALLY HELP US OUT ON THAT QUITE A BIT. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU COULD GET THE NUMBERS. HOW MANY SENIORS ARE USING THE BUSSES THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SENIORS AND TRIPS THAT ARE USING THE BUSSES, UM THAT WOULD BE HANDY TO KNOW AS WELL. UM AND I NOTICED MY IN THE TOP 10 EMPLOYER DESTINATIONS . MY MOTHER'S BEAUTICIANS. NOT ON HERE. SO AND WHICH ONE? WHAT IS THAT? OKAY ACH. UM I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SINGER'S ISN'T ISN'T THE DIRECTION AT SOME POINT TO NOT HAVE THE SENIOR TRANSPORTATION AND IT GETS REPLACED WITH KODA. WE WERE ALREADY DONE. OKAY SO I NOTICED IN THE BUDGET AND OTHER LINE ITEMS THAT THERE'S SENIOR BUS GARAGE THAT WE NEED TO BUILD AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THAT INCONSISTENT WITH NOT HAVING TO NO, WE WE'VE INSISTED ON KEEPING WHAT I CALL THE SENIOR TOUR BUS.
BECAUSE THEY DO TAKE SIDE TRIPS TO CASINO THERE, DUTCHMAN EASTERN AND YOU NAME IT SO THAT BOSS IS NOW CURRENTLY SITTING OUTSIDE OR THE KICKS IN CENTER. SO WE WANT SHELTER FOR IT, SO IT'S NOT INCONSISTENT. WE DO NOT THAT BUSSES. WHAT 30 PASSENGERS WOULD THAT BE? £33 US. OKAY I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT POINT DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT. I JUST OKAY. JUST EDITORIALLY I
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WATCHING THE REVOLUTION WITH KODA PLUS HAS BEEN TO ME KIND OF FASCINATING KIND OF GOING FROM EVERYWHERE I WENT, THERE WAS A CODA PLUS DRIVER SITTING BY THE SIDE OF THE ROAD LOOKING LIKE PLEASE LET THERE BE A RIDE TO SOMEONE SOMEWHERE. AND NOW I'M MOVING AROUND THE CITY. UM I'M PASSING BUSSES WITH THAT ARE FILLED WITH PASSENGERS, WHICH I THINK IS SUCH A POSITIVE. UM, I THINK THAT IT REALLY IT'S ABOUT BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS AS YOU WELL KNOW, UM, THE YOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB PUSHING INFORMATION OUT ON SOCIAL CODE COULD OBVIOUSLY DO THE SAME THING. BUT THAT RELATIONSHIP AND THAT UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT WORKS.AND ANECDOTALLY, I WAS TALKING TO A SENIOR MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AT ARTS AND THE ALLEY AND SHE WAS JUST RAVING ABOUT HOW MUCH HE LOVED TO BLAST AND SHE DOESN'T SHE'S NOT USING THE APP. SHE CALLS THEM ON THE PHONE AND, UM AND WHICH I THOUGHT WAS FANTASTIC, BUT SHE SHE WAS SO INTIMATED ABOUT IT. I SAID YOU WOULD BE THE PERFECT SPOKESPERSON. AND SHE WAS LIKE, OH, WELL, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THAT WHEN I CALL IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THEM TO COME. SO SHE DIDN'T SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE RECRUITED. I JUST THOUGHT THAT YOU WOULD GET A CHUCKLE OUT OF THAT. DON. THE REASON I ASK IS THE WEEKEND SERVICE WOULD BE HANDY FOR A LOT OF SENIORS. JUST YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE THAT MISSED THEIR HAIR APPOINTMENT ON FRIDAY. IT NEED TO GET THERE ON SATURDAY. UM AND ALSO THE REASON I'M ASKING HOW MANY SENIORS ARE USING IT? I'M REALLY WONDERING, YOU KNOW. AND I KNOW THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF MONEY. BUT THEN WHEN THE WHEN THE LADIES ARE GOING TO GET THEIR HAIR DONE, THAT IT'S BASICALLY CHARGING HIM $4 WHERE IT USED TO BE FREE. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE WOULD BE A WAY THAT WE COULD JUST CHARGE HIM A DOLLAR EACH WAY FOR THE SENIORS INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF THE $2 HELP THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE MY MOM ALWAYS REMINDS ME THAT HER HAIR IS $24 AND THEN ADD $4. THAT'S $28, YOU KNOW. SO IT'S IT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM. OH WELL, JUST LOOK INTO IT AND THE NUMBER OF SENIORS WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE APPS AND WILL BE ABLE TO TELL AND, UH, THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT ON DAKOTA, PLUS THE TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE REALLY? MARSHALL THIS THING THROUGH WAS BELVEDERE AND KYLE, ROUSED FROM WAY BACK AND SEX 16 OR 17. WE STARTED WORKING ON THANK YOU. IF I COULD HAVE HELPED MORE POINTS, MR. UH UH, DONNA'S AH. SOFT ON THE WORD COMMUNITY. YOU SEE THAT SENTENCE POINT TO POINT SERVICE ANYWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT INCLUDES JACKSON TOWNSHIP. JACKSON TOWN.
THEY GET A SERVICE FOR FREE. ALMOST UM, AND ONE OTHER THING, I MIGHT NOTE WE MET WITH WAS THE PREMIER RESTAURANTS. IN CENTRAL OHIO TWO WEEKS AGO. HMM AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE DISCUSSION WAS, DO YOU HAVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND ONE OF THE FEW COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, SO THEY WERE THEY WERE IMPRESSED. GOOD. ANY OTHER CODED COMMENTS. JUST ONE MORE, UH, WAY BACK WHEN URBAN GRASSED. UH OF COURSE WE CODE APPLIES TO COVERS THAT, BUT THEY WANTED THEY REMEMBER ORANGE TOLD US THAT THEY HAVE SO MANY. RESIDENTS THAT WORK NORTH TO 70 AND THAT, UH, CENTER AND WE ASKED KODA IF THEY GET AT IT, AND THEY AND THEY BUILT TOOK CARE OF IT. AND THEY DID. AND SO THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ONES ON THE THAT'S RIGHT UNDER THE TENT IN HERE, SO SEARCH EVERYONE CREST TOO. THANK YOU. SO WEEKEND RIDERSHIP AND HE'S GOING TO CHECK ON SENIORS, OKAY? ANY OTHER CODE OF COMMENTS. OKAY ANY OTHER GENERAL COMMENTS ON THIS FUND? ALL RIGHT. I HAVE. SOME REQUESTS FOR AMENDMENTS IN THIS FUND. AND I'LL START WITH MINE.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE LIBRARY, THE LIBRARY SITE. SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, WE ACQUIRED PROPERTY EXPANDING THAT. WE'VE HAD LOTS OF SUCCESS WITH EVENTS ON THAT SIDE BELIEVE ALSO HAD SOME NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON THE SURFACE, YOU KNOW? IS IT GOING TO MAKE REMAIN GRASS THERE? IS IT GOING TO BE HARD ESCAPED? UH AND THE DESIGN AND THE FULFILLMENT OF BENCHES, TREES, DRIVEWAYS WITH THE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE CLOSED OR NOT. AND SO I BELIEVE WE NEED A PLAN. AND WE CAN ALL GET BEHIND AND IMPLEMENT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT S WE HAVE THE MONEY. TO HIRE THAT OUT AND DEVELOP A PLAN. FOR THOSE THINGS. WHAT SECTION. ON PAGE
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61. HMM SO THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, UH. YEAH MR BOZO, SAYS 50,000.SO IT WOULD BE, UM. AMY. WHAT LINE SHOULD WE PUT THIS UNDER? MIKE. YEAH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT PROFESSIONAL SERVICE SERVICES. GENERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW A LOT OF $50,000 FOR COMPLETE LIBRARY SITE. PLAN YOU KNOW THE DETAILS. COMMERCIAL IS OR NOT.
AND WE'RE ALL THE AMENITIES AND EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE COMPLETED PLAN LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO EXECUTE ON THAT LATER IN THE YEAR. YOU'RE WANTING 50,000. RECOMMENDS 50,000 WOULD DO THAT. I WOULD SECOND IT ASKING QUESTIONS. BEFORE WE VOTE. UM WE HAD A PLAN FROM THE DIDN'T WE HAVE ONE FROM THE RECREATION? AND FOR JUST A LOT OR LIBRARY SITE, BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ALL THE BIGGER PLAN PICTURE, I THINK CHANGED AND YOU'VE ASKED FOR A PLAYGROUND.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE PLAYGROUND GOES. AND HOW DOES THE WHOLE THING FLOW TOGETHER? AND WHAT IS THE FINISHED PRODUCT LOOK LIKE AND WHETHER IT'S HARD, ESCAPED OR NOT I JUST NEED TO CLARIFICATION IF IT WAS THE BIG BIG PICTURE A BIG PICTURE. OKAY, THANK YOU HAVE A SECOND. YOU DO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO WEIGH IN, UH, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST MAYBE THE LAST, BUT IT'S I'M GOING TO GO TO MY I'M DUSTING OFF MY OLD LINE. 365 DAYS OF THE YEAR. WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THESE TYPES OF THINGS, AND IT'S DECEMBER THE EIGHTH AH! WHEN WE HAVE NOT DEFINED WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE SEEKING TO ACCOMPLISH. UM JUST APPROPRIATING DOLLARS. WHICH EFFECTIVELY? FREEZE THEM UP FOR USAGE IN THE BIG PICTURE. WE'RE GIVING A BLANK CHECK. FOR DOLLARS TO BE SPENT ON SOMETHING WE HAVE YET TO CLEARLY DEFINED. WE HAD 365 DAYS TO CLEARLY DEFINE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IN THE YEAR, 2023. SO UM, NOTHING. ANY OF THESE THINGS MIGHT NOT BE WORTHY. BUT WE'VE HAD ALL YEAR TO HAVE SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION. ABOUT A PATH FORWARD ON SOME OF THESE LOOSENED TOPICS. UM I'VE NEVER A FAN OF 11TH HOUR. UM BUDGET ADDITIONS.
UM, FOR LIKE, AGAIN BECAUSE THIS THERE ARE VERY FEW THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTROL AS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UM, GIVING APPROPRIATING DOLLARS. AGAIN WITHOUT A REAL COMMITMENT TO WHAT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THEM IS ALMOST MEANINGLESS . SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. MY TWO CENTS WHAT DO THE SEPARATE LEGISLATION. MY POINT IS YES. WE'VE GONE THIS LONG WITHOUT A PLAN. I WANT TO TAKE AN ACTION TO PUTS THE MONEY THERE SO THAT WE CAN ENLIST AN ENGINEERING FIRM OR DESIGN COMPANY TO CREATE THE PLAN AND GET IT DONE AND NOT TALK ABOUT IT FOR THE NEXT 365 DAYS. WE CAN REALLY LITERALLY REVIEW A STACK OF EXPENSIVE PLANS THAT WE'VE HAD PRESENTED TO US AND WE'VE TAKEN NO ACTION ON THEM AND AGAIN. THAT'S THAT'S TRULY GOES TO RIGHT TO THE HEART OF THE REASON BECAUSE WE COULD JUST CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY ON PLANS. BUT UNTIL WE COME TO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT ABOUT WHAT IT IS, WE'D LIKE TO GET ACCOMPLISHED. ALL THE PLANNING ALL THE EXPERTS COMING IN DOING A GLOSSY PRESENTATION FOR US ONLY TO HAVE ANOTHER PLAN. GET PUT ON ICE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. UM IT JUST MAKES WE'RE JUST THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD. I I'M I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION OF INERTIA. BUT WE STILL HAD 365 DAYS A YEAR TO HAVE LIKE A SPECIAL MEETING WHERE WE KNOCK DOWN DRAG OUT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. WE DIDN'T. WE DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND JUST SPEND THROWING AN ALLOCATION AT IT IN THE BUDGET ISN'T GOING TO GET US THERE. HMM. DOES ANYBODY BELIEVE WE HAVE A PLAN? RIGHT NOW WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH I THINK THERE'S TWO WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT. I THINK WHAT ONE YOU CAN EAT YOU
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CAN. YOU CAN APPROPRIATE THE MONEY HERE, THE 50,000 HERE AND WE CAN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AND DECIDE ON THE COUNCIL CAN DESIGN ON WHAT THE SCOPE IS THAT THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO AT OR YOU CAN DO IT REVERSE LEE AND WE CAN DO, WE CAN DO AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE FOLLOWING A SPECIAL MEETING OF COUNCIL, UM TO DO IT, SO THERE'S TWO WAYS OF DOING IT. I MEAN, EITHER WAY, THERE SHOULD BE A SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS IT BEFORE AFFIRM IS HIRED ANYHOW, IN MY MIND. YEAH. IF I CAN TOSS IN MY TWO CENTS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WORKING AS A LIAISON WITH ANDY IN THE TOWN CENTER, AND JUST REALLY, FOR THE FIRST TIME EXPERIENCING EVER THESE DOWNTOWN EVENTS I FEEL LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO ENGAGE THESE FOLKS AND HELPING US FLUSH THAT OUT. AND I KNOW ESPECIALLY THE TOWN CENTER. THEY THEY'RE BORED. EVEN DRAFTED A RESOLUTION OF ADAMANT THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY ENCUMBRANCES ON THAT GREEN SPACE. AND TO JUST GO AGAINST THAT WITHOUT GETTING THEIR INVOLVEMENT. AND JUST HAVING THIS EXCUSE ME. CRUCIAL CONVERSATION, I THINK IS I THINK IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THOUGH. HERE MARCUS ONE IS REALLY STARTING ABOUT THE ENTIRE PART. SO WE JUST ADD TWO MORE PARTS TO IT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT I MEAN, EITHER WAY. IT'S HOWEVER, YOU GUYS LOOK AT IT. WE CAN EITHER HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING DESIGN ON SCOPE APPROPRIATE $50,000, OR WE CAN DO APPROPRIATE. THE $50,000 HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, DECIDE ON SCOPE AND LET THE KIND OF UNLUCKY ADMINISTRATION WENT FORWARD. EITHER WAY, IT GETS YOU TO THE SAME POINT. BUT I'M SORRY . POINT OF INFORMATION ON THERE. UM, FIRST OF ALL, ANY CHANGES WE WOULD MAKE ON PAGE 61 WOULD HAVE TO BE REFLECTED IN THE ORDINANCE ON PAGE ONE IS ON THERE, SO THOSE ADJUSTMENTS WOULD BE MADE.AND THEN. SECONDLY, THIS IS JUST A BUDGET MEETING. ALL WE'RE DOING THIS PUTTING MONEY AND IN SLOTS, AND IT DOESN'T SAY HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT OR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WE'RE HAVING THE MONEY SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S MONEY IN THAT JUST TO DO THOSE DISCUSSIONS. IT'S NOT TELLING US HOW DID YOU DO DISCUSSIONS? WE'RE JUST SIMPLY SLOTTING MONEY, SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO SLOT IT NOW AND THEN WE CAN FOLLOW UP DISCUSSIONS AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. HELP NEEDS TO BE WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I THINK WE ALL AGREE. WE NEED A SPECIAL MEETING. NO AGAIN. I JUST MIGHT SAY, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH MARK IN TERMS OF THAT, BY AND IN TERMS OF THE CHAMBER AS WELL AS THE INDIES GROUPS. CERTAINLY, THAT AREA HAS CHANGED A LOT IN THE LAST 2 TO 3 YEARS. WE WHO WOULD EVER EXPECTED WE MOVE ARTS IN THE ALLEY OVER THERE, WINE FEST AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO THEIR INPUT IS VIOLIN TERMS, AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY, UH MEET WITH THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE THAT PURPOSE SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THE COTTON PARCELS THAT CHANGES THINGS TO THE DESIRE TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND, THERE CERTAINLY CHANGED THINGS SO AND I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER VALID POINTS WITH LEAVING THAT AREA GRASS AREA. 88 ACCESSIBILITY IS QUESTION AND A VALID ONE, AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE AND PERHAPS COME UP WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT WE PRESENT EVEN THAT WON'T THAT'S NOT GOING TO COST 50,000. BUT IT SERVES THE NEEDS OF NOT ONLY THE CHAMBER, BUT ANDY'S GROUP AND THE COMMUNITY AND AGAIN, THE PLAYGROUND FOR THE YOUTH IS CERTAINLY WHAT WE WOULD ONE. LOOK AT ONE THING. CHECK I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK I WOULD WHEN WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IS TO INVITE THEM IN AND AT THE SAME TIME, SO IT'S NOT THE ADMINISTRATION GOING TO THEM AND HEARING ONE THING, AND THEN WE'RE NOT HEARING IT. I WOULD RATHER HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE SAME ROOM DISCUSSING IT AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY, THAT'S OKAY THEN. MANGO. THE LAST ONE WE DID. WHICH. PUTTING THEM ON THE SHELVES AND NOT THE RIGHT WORD PRESENTED AT THE COUNCIL. RIGHT? THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKING IN THAT PROCESS. WE HAD INTERVIEWS. AND WE HAD WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING IN FACT FINDING EXERCISE. AT ANY TIME THAT WE DO ANYTHING OR THAT AREA TODAY, THE CHAMBER AND ER FIRST ON THE LIST THAT WE TALKED TO IN ORDER TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. I WOULD SAY, MR BERRY, YOU NEED FOR SOLITAIRE. WE NEED A THIRD PARTY. INDEPENDENCE FOR SOLITAIRE. SO YOU DO NEED SOME FUNDING. TO DO THAT, AND I THINK THE PLANS THAT WE'VE HAD I MEAN, WHEN'S THE PART WE DID A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO? WE PRETTY MUCH EXECUTE EVERYTHING ON THEIR SAME WAY FAR APART. AND THIS ONE, UM COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION. WE HAD TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. IN A WAY. I'M GLAD WE DIDN'T TAKE ACTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T WE HAD OTHER THE OTHER PERSON'S IN
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ITSELF. EITHER WAY WE CAN DO IT WILL STILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. HOWEVER YOU GUYS WANNA DO YOU NEED A FACILITATOR. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? TAMMY. MR SIEGERIST.YES. MR BARRY? YES MR HOLT? YES THIS IS HOW SHOCKING YES. THANK YOU FACILITY. GREAT FACILITY IS SWEATING MONEY. MARK, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. I HAVE TWO OTHER AMENDMENTS ON THIS PAGE OR IN THIS FUND. WE CAN YES. I'LL START WITH 10. FEEL THE AMPHITHEATER. SO. CHUCK WHERE ARE WE WITH WITH THE AMPHITHEATER IN YOUR MIND? UM, DO WE NEED TO? WE NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP AND GET CONCRETE NUMBERS FOR WHAT IT COSTS OR WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS? I WOULD, UH, SAY IT PARALLELS THAT DISCUSSION. WE JUST CONCLUDED IN TERMS OF WHAT DO WE WANT? IT IS A $2 MILLION PROJECT IS A $5 MILLION PROJECT. WHAT WHAT TYPE OF PERFORMERS AND ACTS DO YOU WANT ON IT? THAT WILL NECESSITATE THE SIZE. YOU WANT DRESSING AND TERRESTRIALS THAT THAT TYPE OF THING SO IT'S REALLY DECIDING ON WHAT WE WANT THIS. AMPHITHEATER TO BE. SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS KIND OF WHAT YOU SAID, IS EXACTLY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER ONE. IT WOULD BE A SPECIAL MEETING MAYBE BRINGING IN THE LITTLE THEATER AND SOME ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THAT . ALSO, MAYBE WITH THE FACILITATOR AND TALKING ABOUT MAYBE SOME ENTITIES THAT KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, PERFORMANCE STAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION. UM SO. I MEAN, DOES THE MONEY IN THE FIRST ONE INSOFAR AS FACILITATION TAKE CARE OF THIS ONE, TOO, IF WE HAD A SEPARATE SPECIAL MEETING UM, I'M ASSUMING $50,000 COULD PAY FOR A FACILITATOR FOR BULAT. I THINK YES. SO I'M OKAY WITH JUST HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING AND WE'LL THERE WAS FACILITATOR AT THAT ONE, TOO. MR RUBY COMMUNITY CENTER. UM WELL, I WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THAT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT.
BUT I COULD TALK ABOUT IT NOW, IF YOU WANT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT. I THINK I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE RIGHT LOCATION RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT IS FOR WHAT YOUR REQUESTED. OKAY THANK YOU REQUESTING SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING, UM, THE THREE GROUPS AND LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF PARKS AND ONE OF THE GROUP'S IS ON A COMMUNITY CENTER ON THEIR WE'VE, UH AND WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY REPORTS OUT ABOUT THIS, BUT WE HAVE AN ACTIVE GROUP. THAT'S THAT'S MEETING EVERY MONTH, AND WE'RE NOW FACILITATING THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WE WANT TO SAMPLE THE PUBLIC AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY WANT. UM MISS HUCK ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THAT. WE NEED THAT INTO IT FROM THEM. SO WE ARE HAVING AND THANKS TO THE ADMINISTRATION, DOCTOR SAPPERSTEIN, WHO DOES OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY? IS COMING TO OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE 14TH. WE HAVE A LIST OF Q, BUT WHAT WE WANTED AND THANKS TO DON WALTERS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER WITH USING THE CITY'S CONSTANT COMMENT, SOFTWARE AND THE WEAPON , THE WEB ADDRESSES WILL BE ABLE TO PUT THESE THINGS OUT, UM THIS THIS MONTH OR EARLY IN THE EARLY IN JANUARY. YOU GOT A SERIES OF FIVE, POSSIBLY FIVE SURVEYS GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT, AND ARE THEY INTERESTED IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER? UM ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UM, ALL THE WAY THROUGH POSSIBLE FINANCING ON THERE, SO WE'RE WORK. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS THAT I WOULD SAY AND THIS IS JUST A FORECAST, AND I DON'T KNOW IF KIM AGREES WITH ME ON THIS, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT SOMETIME IN LATE SUMMER, WE WOULD BE READY FOR SOME CONCEPTUAL VIEWS OF A BUILDING ON THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOCATION AND NOT NECESSARILY FINANCING. BUT IF THE PUBLIC COMES BACK AND SAYS WE WANT TO WE WANT TO HAVE FUELED HOUSE AND WE WANT TO HAVE A POOL INDOOR POOL. YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS AND THAT WE NEED WE WILL NEED TO HAVE SOME CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS IN ORDER TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC AND TO PRESENT TO COUNSEL AND TO EVERYONE ELSE ON THERE, SO UM ONE THING THAT I BELIEVE IS THAT THE PINNACLE TIP SHOULD BE UTILIZED TO AND PRESERVED FOR A POTENTIAL WITHIN A YEAR OF
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LOOKING AT FINANCING, PARTLY FINANCING, COMMUNITY CENTER OR COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER.HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO TURN IT ON THERE. AND THAT THAT PINNACLE TIFF MONEY SHOULD BE RESERVED, BUT IN ORDER TO GET A STUDY, ARCHITECTURAL STUDY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM WHEN I WAS DISCUSSING THIS WITH MR HOLT, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD USE CURRENTLY A MILLION DOLLARS FROM ALLOCATE FROM THE PINNACLE TIFF FOR FUTURE SO THAT WE COULD GET ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS AND CONCEPTUAL VIEWS OF THE BUILDING ON THERE BECAUSE WE'LL BE READY FOR THEM BY LATE SUMMER AND EARLY FALL AFTER WE GET ALL THE PUBLIC INPUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO, MR HOLD IF YOU THINK THIS IS THE PLACE FOR PROFESSIONAL TECHNICAL SERVICES , THEN I, UM IF IT'S GIVES US THE PROPER TOO. I MEAN, WE CAN JUST THAT WASN'T FOR ME. TIP IS THE BEST PLACE TO DO IT. WE CAN JUST CHANGE THE LINE AND THE FUND THAT IT COMES OUT OF HERE ALREADY THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION. WE COULD JUST CHANGE WHAT THE FUND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT WAS THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT YOU WERE SUGGESTING? DOLLARS? YEAH. BUT AGAIN, UH, LATER ON IN THE BUDGET IS, UH THE FUND THE PENNY FOR FUN, AND I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION AND I ALSO WILL DISCUSS THE USE OF IT FOR THE BLACK AND NOT THE USE OF IT FOR HOLDING ROAD. AND DELAY THAT SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER ON, OKAY? THANK YOU. IT IS PLAIN. OKAY? THAT'S IT FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS GENERAL GOVERNMENT JUST MR. JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT I'M GOING TO ADD THE COMMUNITY SPENT CENTERS A SPECIAL MEETING. UM OF COUNSEL IN THE PARK BOARD. YEAH.
SO WORK WITH WITH KIM. AS FAR AS GETTING THOSE PEOPLE TOGETHER. SO NOW I'VE GOT A LIST OF THREE, RIGHT? MOVING ON PAGE 63 INFORMATION SYSTEMS. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THERE. I NOTICED YOUR CYBER BECAUSE OF INCREASED AS IT WERE BUDDIES. UM AND ALSO IS THAT THE. IS THAT YOUR EXPECTATION OF BM WEAR UP TO I HEAR INDUSTRY. IT'S A LOT MORE THAN WHAT YOU PLACED HERE, BUT WE ARE. WE ARE FORTUNATE WITH WITH RESPECT TO V AND WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE, UH, IN COORDINATION WITH THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY, ORNETTE THAT THERE'S A COLLABORATION THERE, SO WE GET IT AT VERY DISCOUNTED RATES. SO UM WE WERE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT INCREASE THAT WE ARE SEEING THEIR, UM THINGS THAT ARE MENTIONED HERE THAT, UM, I THINK ARE APPROPRIATE TO MENTION IS, UM SOME OF IT IS A SHIFT FROM YOU KNOW, WE WERE ADDING TWO NEW SYSTEMS THAT THIS COMING YEAR.
WELL ACTUALLY ONE JANUARY THIRD PARKS AND REC SYSTEM. AND THEN WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WE'RE CHANGING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE DEPARTMENT. UM. CYBER SECURITY. UM HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT PORTION TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS. UM SO THERE'S TWO OTHER INITIATIVES IN THERE. ONE WE'RE ADDING SOMEBODY ENHANCEMENTS TO, UM ARE OUR PREMIER DEFENSE, OUR SECURITY AND CYBER SECURITY PROGRAM AS WELL AS WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND DO THOSE ANALYSIS. THERE'S. CITY BUSINESS PROCESSES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WE NEED TO MODIFY, CHANGE AND ENHANCE, AND SO, UM, THAT IS A BIG PART OF IT. UM JUST LOOKING AT IN THE INTERNET, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE BUDGET . HERE IS THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADVERSE SECURITY AND THOSE THINGS, UM THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE. THE HIGHLIGHT OF THAT. I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. UM LATER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW IF WE GUYS IF WE SHIFT SEATS, AND YOU GUYS SIT DOWN HERE, I'M SURE THE MEETING WOULD GO A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. THESE CHAIRS NEED TO KEEP IT PLAYING QUICKLY, BUT I'M TIRED OF TIRED OF FUEL. STAY UP THERE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. YEAH I. OKAY UM, FIBER OPTIC NETWORK. A LITTLE BOX THERE COST THERE AND, UM NEGATIVE CASH FLOW THAT 333,000 RATHER CORRECT. THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR COST IS TWO FOR US, AND THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY BE PAYING THAT TO SOMEONE ELSE. CORRECT COST IS MUCH MORE REDUCED THAN IT USED TO BE SIGNIFICANT. TRUE COST TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT IT. CORRECTLY OKAY, GOOD. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW. I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION FIX FOR DOWNTOWN OUTDOOR WINE, OKAY? I'M WITH YOU. I MEAN, A LOT OF AS WE MOVE INTO THE NEXT
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PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT INDEPENDENT CENTER, ONE OF THOSE EXPECTED PEOPLE CAN SIT OUTSIDE. PUBLIC LIFE. AND THEY SIT OUTSIDE AND THEY WERE WHAT I DON'T. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT. WHAT IS THE COST OF ACTUALLY HAVING WELT YEAR'S BUDGET. THERE WAS MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THE ENHANCEMENT TO THE TOWN CENTER OF WIFI. THE YEAR PRIOR TO THAT THERE WAS MONEY PUT IN THERE FOR BLACK PARK. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO COVER THOSE TWO SITES SPECIFICALLY, SO THE PHASE ONE OF DEMONSTRATE OWED. YOU KNOW, I WORKED WITH CINDY AND MR KELLER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD COMMUNICATIONS CONDUIT IN THERE. ONE WE PICKED UP FULLER PARK, THE SCHOOL TWO WERE OUR COMMUNICATION PATH GOES UP NORTH OF THAT LOCATION AND INCOMES ACROSS THE STREET TO THE ENTRANCE OF BRECHT PARK. THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HAVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THERE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO PUT WIFI IN THE IN IN THAT PARK. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE NORTH IN THAT COMMUNICATION CONDO WILL COME UP TO BOYER ROAD. GO EAST TO THE NEW, UH PARK. PAVILION AND THEN CONTINUE NORTH TO SOUTH WEST BULL MARK SO THAT SIDE OF THINGS IS TAKEN CARE OF. SO WE WERE WAITING ON THAT PROJECT SO THAT WE HAD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO MAKE THAT WORK AND WE'LL BE USING UTILIZING OUR FIBER NETWORK FOR THAT THAT CONNECTIVITY IN THE TOWN CENTER. WE HAD FOR MANY YEARS, THERE'S A TRAFFIC INTERCONNECT WIRE THAT GOES FROM KINGSTON, ALL THE WAY TO I ACTUALLY HAVE TO SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. WE'RE APPLYING THAT DOWN AND INSTALL FIBER. PROBABLY UM AND JANUARY, UM TIMING OF THIS IS A LITTLE BIT CRITICAL IN TERMS OF GETTING THE RIGHT RESOURCES. OUR BIGGEST HANG UP. AND HAVING ALL OF THIS COMPLETED IS LEAD TIME THAT WE HAVE ON, UM , CERTAIN EQUIPMENT, NETWORKING GEAR AND ESPECIALLY FIBER OPTIC HERE, UM, WE HAD ORDERED IN JANUARY. GEAR SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE TRANSITION AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS. UM WE WILL RECEIVE THOSE SWITCHES THAT WE NEEDED FOR THAT TRANSITION THIS COMING APRIL. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT AN 18 MONTH LEAD TIME. FOR WHATEVER REASON. CHIP SHORTAGES REALLY THE ROOT OF ALL THAT? OUR WIFI EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF IT FOR THE TOWN CENTER. BUT IN TURN, THE PIECE THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR IS THE SWITCHES THAT WILL HAVE IN THE TRAFFIC CABINETS THAT CONNECT THE FIBER THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THAT THAT WILL COME BACK AND TIE TO OUR NETWORK SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN TIE THAT TO OUR PUBLIC WIFI.SO WE UNDERSTAND YES, AND WE'VE ADDED, UM SOME ACCESS POINTS AND A COUPLE OF SPOTS. ONE IS ON THE SOUTH FACE OF THE SAFETY COMPLEX THAT FACES THE LIBRARY LOT. UM SO AT MISTLETOE MARKET, YOU KNOW , THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF VENDORS. HOW ARE THEY DOING IT? A COUPLE OF THEM WERE USING OUR PUBLIC WIFI FOR THEIR POINT OF SALE DURING THAT EVENT. SAME WITH ARTS IN THE ALLEY. I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THERE, EVEN THE, UM I BELIEVE IT'S THIS TOMA GROUP THAT WAS THERE AND I HAVE FRIENDS. THAT'S ON THAT GROUP. AND SO HE WAS GOING TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ON THE RIGHT ONE. BUT SO WE HAVE PLANS THERE. BUT SOME OF IT IS. WE'RE WAITING ON EQUIPMENT TO MAKE THAT RELATED THAT LAST PIECE PUT TOGETHER. WE'VE ADDED SOME STUFF FOR THE AREA OVER HERE IN THE PARKING LOT. SO UM, FARMERS MARKETS THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WILL HAVE ENHANCED COVERAGE IN THAT AREA. SO THE GOAL IS THE COUNCIL. YEP, RIGHT. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IF WE'RE SITTING IN A BUDGET MEETING ARE YOU OKAY? WITH FUNDS NOW? YES THE LAST PART TWO THAT WAS STAYING WITH US TO PRIOR APPROPRIATIONS. WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WE CAN PROVIDE WIFI AND THE TOWN CENTER BRECK PARK. WINDSOR PARK AND FRIAR PARK, ALL WITH THOSE FUNDS THAT THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY UM, UH, APPROPRIATED , SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND WE THINK WE CAN FUND INSTEAD OF JUST THE TWO AREAS. ALL OF OUR PARK AREAS ARE MAJOR PARK AREAS YOU WANT AS FAR AS THE PARK THERE. HAVING IT COVERED THIS ONE THAT WHEN THE PAVILION IS THERE, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SPOT FOR THAT THAT JUMP OFF OF THAT, SO WE'LL HAVE FIBER TO THAT BUILDING. AND IF WE WANT TO PROVIDE, UM WIFI IN THAT PARK . CREATING A MESH NETWORK WOULD BE YOU KNOW. HE WOULDN'T SEE AN US COMING BACK FOR APPROPRIATION FOR THAT WE WOULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN ENOUGH SIGNAL. WE WOULD.
THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PART. UM SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE TECHNOLOGY OF
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MESH. YES NETWORK SO WE WOULD HAVE A POINT OF PRESENCE. AND THEN THAT WOULD HOP FROM THAT SO COVERING THAT PARK. WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM. AS LONG AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE PROBABLY PUT THOSE ON LIGHTS OR THINGS WHERE WE HAVE THE POWER SOURCE FOR THAT. OKAY IS PLAYING PICKLEBALL AND HE NEEDS TO SEND A SELFIE. HE CAN DO THAT. YEAH. WELL, WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT HIM STREAMING AND BEING ABLE TO SEE HIS YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU. YES, OKAY. OKAY MOVING ON TO PAGE 67.BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS. COMMENTS THERE. ALRIGHT TO PAGE 71 HUMAN RESOURCES. TEAM OF ONE ANY COMMENTS THERE? OKAY? BUT YOU ON THE DEVELOPMENT PAGE 75. YEAH, I THOUGHT THE SAME TIME. FOUGHT THROUGH THAT. A BIT AGO. UM ANY COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT. ALRIGHT STREET MAINTENANCE. I THINK SIGNIFICANT THAT I FOUND IN THERE. I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY RIGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CINDY ON THE. TO THE PODIUM. CINDY UNIT HAD A CASUAL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHEN WE DO STREET MAINTENANCE. WE SHOULD ALSO DO THE SIDEWALKS ALONG THAT STREET. THE STREETS. UM WHEN WE DO THE LIKE A MAJOR. STREET YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING INDEPENDENCE OR WHATEVER WE DO THE SIDEWALKS, BUT WE USE THE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT THIS. BUT DO WE USE THE CONCEPT OF THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS PAY 50% OF IT? BUT YET WE FUNDED AS WE DO THE STREET MIXTURE TRYING THERE. IS THAT STILL A VIABLE CONCEPTS SO THAT WE AS WE WORK ON LIKE, IF WE'RE WORKING ON THE RIVER WE WORK ON THE SIDEWALKS WAS THE EXAMPLE. YOU AND I TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, RIVERS COMING UP, AND IT IS PROPOSED TO BE ON NEXT YEAR'S STREET PROGRAM. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE SIDEWALK EVALUATIONS ON RIVER AND SO, UM, TO TRY. TO NOT PUT PEOPLE THROUGH TWO SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION. SEASONS, ALIGNING THOSE. BID THEM FOR ONE CONTRACTOR, SO YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE STEPPING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, BUT THEY WOULD STILL BE FUNDED AND MANAGED IN THE WAY THEY ARE TODAY WHEN THEY'RE IN SEPARATE LOCATIONS, SO THAT'S STILL FEASIBLE. WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS AND ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. OKAY, GOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS STILL AVAILABLE. UH IF I MAY JUST KIND OF OFF THE CUFF IS FINE YOUR OPINION AND WHERE IT WOULD FALL IF IT WAS A PRIORITY , BUT, UH, BRIDGE OVER 71 ON STRING TOWN. IT SEEMS TO BE SO. UM DETERIORATED COMPARED TO THE SURFACE COMPARED TO OTHER. I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT FAIR. MAYBE, BUT 6 65 IS AN EXAMPLE.
CERTAINLY NOT FAIR. WHAT WHERE DID IF YOU WERE IF THAT WERE A PRIORITY OR VISIT PRODUCT, PLEASE COMMENT. IF IT IS, WHERE DOES IT FALLS OUT OF MAINTENANCE? OR IS THAT A CAPITAL? THAT WOULD BE A CAPITAL ITEM? UM AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THIS YEAR'S CAPITAL PROGRAM. WE HAVE NOT JUST OUR ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A SEPARATE APPROPRIATION FOR ARTERIAL ROADWAY FORK. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF OUR PRIME CORRIDORS ARE STARTING TO SHOW SOMEWHERE AND SO WE'RE TAKING A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THOSE DURING THE ENGINEERING PROCESS RIGHT NOW, UM, I THINK THE LINE ITEM MAY EVEN CALL OUT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ST TOWN. HOOVER BROADWAY. YOU KNOW THESE THESE ARTERIAL ER ARTERIAL COURT OR SO THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION.
THE FLOWERS AND THE TOWN CENTER, WHICH AWESOME. EVERYBODY I KNOW LOVES THE FLOWERS. SO. ONE POINT IN TIME WE TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING WHERE WE PUT THE FLOWERS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT . NOW WE'VE GOT HIM DOWN. PARK STREET, MY CORRECT WE GOT AT THE PARK. WE GOT THEM, ALTHOUGH DO WE HAVE THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN BROADWAY? YES ALL THE WAY TO HOMEROOM. AND DID YOU DO 70 AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO CORPORATION LIMIT TO THE SOUTH NEAR VENTURE. A TRADEMARK OF GROWTH CITY THOSE FLOWERS, SO IF YOU GUYS COULD PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO WHAT STREET OTHER STREETS BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT GETS MORE PLAY THAN THOSE THOSE FLOWERS. WE UH WE DO HAVE A PLAN IN TERMS OF SOME OTHER SOME OTHER STREETS OF 6 65 BEING ONE OF THEM. AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND YOU THAT, AND WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBER OF POOLS AND WHAT IT WOULD COST
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TO DO ADDITIONAL QUARTERS IN THE CITY. WE COULD EITHER INDUCE SEPARATE LEGISLATION OR OR PUT IT IN THE BUDGET ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO EXPAND THAT. IT'S FOR THE BEST MARKETING DOLLARS WITH WE'LL GET YOU. THANKS, CINDY. OKAY, THAT COMPLETES THE GENERAL FUNDS. NOW THERE'S SOME MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS. I'LL CALL THEM. UM. YEAH SO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ON PAGE 93. JUST TO KILL HIM. YEAH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING. CREATION. SORRY. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. ANY THREE AND MY PHONE, MAYBE JUST ON GENERAL RECREATION. KIM. I WANTED TO CONFIRM YOU AND I HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU'RE THERE'S SOME THOUGHTS OF SOME DEVELOPMENTAL PROGRAMMING OR PROGRAMMING FOR DEVELOPMENTALLY CHALLENGED OR PHYSICALLY CHALLENGED CITIZENS. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IT'S MADE IT IN THE BUDGET. YES SO IT HAS AND THAT THAT POSITION THAT WE HAVE AS A SPORTS COORDINATOR. THAT WOULD BE PART OF WHAT? WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THAT WITH THAT PERSON IS DOING SOME INCLUSION, RECREATION, WORKING WITH OUR BODY BALL PROGRAM AND MAYBE, HOPEFULLY EXPANDING SOME OF THE INCLUSION PROGRAMS THAT BUDDY BALLS WORKING WITH AS WELL . YES. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU.PAGE 95 SHOWS THE. SUBSIDIES FOR TOWN CENTER Y M. C. A GROUP CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, LITTLE THEATER OFF BROADWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND. AND A PERSONAL QUESTIONS. BIG SPLASH WAS NEXT. OH, NICE. HERE CONSIDERED FOR THIS YEAR. WE'VE GOT 10 MINUTES , SO IT'S LOOKING A LITTLE WEAK ON MY DEADLINE HERE, BUT, UM I'LL CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE ONE OF FIVE. THE PINNACLE TIFF DETAILED BUDGET. ONLY ONLY TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT ITEMS IN THERE FOR HALTON ROAD HOOVERED, A BUCKEYE MILLION 4 15. AND WHITE ROAD, COREY PARK. 4 6,000,050. MR SHARKEY, THIS IS ON THE PINNACLE TIFF BUDGET DETAIL. THIS IS WHY I PROPOSED THAT. ABOUT $1 MILLION OF PINNACLE TIFF MONEY. UM, BE ALLOCATED FOR FUTURE OF.
DRAWINGS AND PLANS FOR COMMUNITY CENTER. THE FORM OF A THAT'S WHERE YOU IF I MAY. WERE YOU EARLIER? I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO THE POINT. YOU MAY HAVE SOME REDUCTIONS IN THAT FUND. I'M JUST ORDERING FROM FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT IN TERMS OF THE BALANCE THERE WILL THAT MILLION DOLLAR SECOND MOTION. MY SECOND MOTION WOULD BE TO DELAY THE HOLTEN ROAD. UM, STATE MONEY FOR THAT. ON THEIR DELAY IT FOR A YEAR UNTIL WE SEE IT. HOW FAR ALONG WE ACTUALLY GET WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THAT BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS, AS I SAID BEFORE, WORD OUT, SURVEYING THE PUBLIC WERE PROBABLY BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THERE. YEAH AND I DON'T WANT I THINK THE PINNACLE TIPS SHOULD BE MOSTLY SAVED FOR, UM OR DOES DESIGNATED TO DO COMMUNITY CENTER ON THERE. UM HOLTEN ROAD TO ME. WAIT A YEAR OR TWO TO SEE AND THERE'S ALSO WE'VE USED OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO DO SOME OF THE ROADS ON THERE, SO THAT WOULD BE MY SECOND MOTION. BUT I'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR IF I COULD GET A SECOND ON THAT.
I'D LIKE HORSE DISCUSSION. IF I COULD. THEN WE NEED A SECOND TO GET DISCUSSION. GO AHEAD, SO SIMILAR TO ROBI AND LONG TERM PARK PLANNING AND KIND OF A CONTINUATION FROM A COUPLE YEARS
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BACK WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FINDINGS AND SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY CENTER THERE WERE TRYING TO ALSO, UM. IDENTIFY NEEDS FOR PARK MATURATION AND UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE PARKS THAT ARE IN FLIGHT, AND SO. I THINK THE RUNWAYS MIGHT BE PARALLEL ON SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO, AND I JUST PROBABLY WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO NOT NECESSARILY PUT A PLACEHOLDER IN HERE BUT RESERVED THE RIGHT, POSSIBLY FOR PINNACLE TIP MONEY.FOR THE MATURATION OF THAT PARK . SHOULD THAT THESE VERY STUDIES THAT RUBY'S MR SHOCK HE'S TALKING ABOUT? UM. POINT TOWARDS YOU KNOW SOME MATURATION THAT COULD BE DONE AND POSSIBLY OR NOT DONE, BUT STARTED EVEN AND THIS YEAR AND I KNOW ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET. UH FOR PINNACLE . THERE WAS SOME YOU KNOW, LIKE I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, MR BOZO. THERE WAS A LINE ITEM FOR LIKE RESTROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THAT ON HOLD NOW OR IT WAS IN THE 2022 BUDGET FOR THE PINNACLE PARKS, AND IT WAS IT WAS CALLED PHASE TWO CRP C I P IS THAT ON HOLD NOW OR IS THAT ARE WE I'M NOT. I'M JUST NOT SURE WHEN. WHEN WILL WE KIND OF LIKE, GET TO THE END OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IN CLINICAL PARTS WITH THINGS THAT ARE COMMITTED TO AND MAYBE WE HAVE PURCHASE ORDERS COMMITTED TO AND YEAH, AGAIN, THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM AND, UH, 2022 BUDGET WAS UNDER THE PINNACLE TIP. 250,000. AH WE HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF INITIATING THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTED TO THAT. OKAY IS ALLOCATED WELL. IF THERE'S NO P O FOR IT, IT'LL GO BACK INTO THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS YESTERDAY. BUT IT COULDN'T BE ALLOCATED LATER ON. YEAH I MEAN, VERY SIMILAR TO MR SHOCKEY'S. WE'RE JUST I THINK WE HAVE THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT PROBABLY HAVE DIFFERENT RUNWAYS, AND I'LL TAKE A DIFFERENT TIME TO KIND OF GET OUR HEAD AROUND. WHAT IT IS THAT WE COULDN'T DO THERE, BUT AH, I THINK I'M JUST GONNA SAY FROM A MATURATION STANDPOINT, NOT JUST PINNACLE PARTS OF THE OTHER PARTS. I WANT TO KIND OF RESERVE THE RIGHT. I THINK TO COME BACK AS COUNSEL WITH ONCE WE HAVE CONCRETE INPUT. TO SEE WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO IN 2023, OR GET STARTED, BUT I'M NOT HERE TO SAY I KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS, AND I'M NOT. I THOUGHT THE MR TURNER ABOUT THIS. I'M NOT HERE TO SAY I WANT TO PLACE HOLDER.
CLEARLY WE'VE ENGAGED THE PUBLIC AND WE'VE GOT OUR OUR TEAM SET UP AND I DON'T WANT TO. GET TO AUGUST OR WHATEVER SOMEONE SAYS YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT IN BUDGET TIME, LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW.
WANTED TIMING, YOU KNOW, WAIT TILL WE GET SOME CONCRETE SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. IT WEIGHS YEAH. DIRECT LEGISLATURE. YEAH, I FEEL OKAY. I'M JUST GOING ON RECORD THAT FOR THE PARK MATURATION. I'M GONNA WAIT AND DO IT THROUGH LEGISLATION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT IT IS, AND IT'S MANY PARTS. IT'S NOT JUST PINNACLE PERK. I MEAN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES WILL BE. BUT SOME SOME SOME WILL BE LESS. SOME WILL BE MORE ANYWAY. ENOUGH OF ENOUGH OF MY DISCUSSION. I'VE JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD. WE'VE STARTED THIS LONG TERM PROCESS TO WAIT ON THE PARK MATURATION JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHERE THEY KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND WITH WHERE WILL DEPART THE COMMUNITY CENTER LOGICALLY BE AND THAT WILL PAVE THE WAY FOR WHAT YOU CAN OR CAN'T DO, AND POULTON ROAD ENVIRONMENT, FOR EXAMPLE. THAT'S ALL. ACROSS THE BOARD. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S THE KEY THING AND MAKE MR TURNER CAN REINFORCE THIS. THIS STATEMENT IN TERMS OF , UM THIS APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CANNOT EVER GO BACK DURING THE COURSE OF THE COMING YEAR AND APPROPRIATE DOLLARS FOR A PROJECT AND, UM AND SO AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THAT. WHERE THAT THIS EXERCISE OF AND I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF AS WE HAVE CALLED FOR MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET. THEY ARE PREPARED. THEY HAVE INFORMATION TO SUBSTANTIATE THEIR ITEM IN THE BUDGET. THEY HAVE THE DATA TO BACK IT UP. THEY CAN. FULLY FLESH OUT FOR US VERY ELOQUENTLY. WHY THIS ITEM IS IN THE BUDGET, AND SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP GOING BACK TO THAT.
YOU KNOW AGAIN, YOU PUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OUT THERE. IT CAN BE SPENT. THAT'S THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE APPROPRIATION. SO IN MY WORLD, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEARLY DEFINING THAT WHICH WE ARE. SAYING AT THE END OF THE YEAR 2022 WE ARE APPROPRIATING FOR THE YEAR 2023 IT. THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXERCISE IN PET PROJECTS THAT
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GET THROWN OUT. UH IN THE 11TH HOUR WE HAVE ALL YEAR TO HAVE PLANNING DISCUSSIONS. WE HAVE ALL YEAR TO WRITE LEGISLATION TO APPROPRIATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. ONCE WE HAVE CLEARLY DEFINED OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. UM, I JUSM JUST SAYING THIS IN TERMS OF JOE TAXPAYER. I'M TELLING YOU, THEY WANT US TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER BEFORE WE GO APPROPRIATING THEIR MONEY. NO MATTER WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS, AND I BELIEVE WE'RE ON THAT TRACK. WE HAVE WE HAVE WITHIN THE PARK'S GROUP. YEAH EVEN THE ONLY THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE OR THE ONLY SLIGHT HESITATION WITH DOING IT THIS WAY, NOT IN SPENDING. THE MONEY IS THE PINNACLE TIFF IS ONE OF THOSE RESTRICTED FUNDS WHERE IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE FUNDS OUT OF IT. WE HAVE TO SHOW A TIE AND BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTIES AND PINNACLE. THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET THIS TIME OR ARE CLEARLY THINGS THAT ARE IN THE AREA BENEFITING THE AREA. UM AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE WILL DO THINGS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO PINNACLE. AND THEN WE WILL PASS SEPARATE LEGISLATION WHERE COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE DETERMINATION THIS DOES BENEFIT THE PINNACLE TIFF. AND ONCE YOU DO THAT, ASSUMING THERE IS SOME TYPE OF NEXUS THERE, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. HOWEVER PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET HERE IN THE PINNACLE TIFF WITHOUT PROVIDING THAT SEPARATE PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO SHOW THAT THIS IS A BENEFIT TO THE PINNACLE TIFF. AT LEAST GIVES ME SOME HESITATION. BUT I ALSO HAVE YOU ARE OPINION THAT THE PINNACLE TIFF CAN BE USED ANY PLACE IN THE CITY IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IF IT BENEFITS BENEFIT TO TAXPAYERS. NOT ONLY IN THE PINNACLE, BUT ALSO TAXPAYERS. AROUND. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT IT IS A BENEFIT TO THE PINNACLE TIFF AREA, WHICH IS WHY WE NORMALLY HAVE THAT. SEPARATE PIECE OF LEGISLATION WHERE YOU MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, WHICH THEN BLESSES US TAKING THE MONEY OUT OF THERE. I MEAN, I THINK AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP. THIS IS A BUDGET ALLOCATION AND THEREFORE I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. ALL WE'RE DOING IS BUDGETING MONEY. OKAY.IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? IF I MAY JUST, UH PERHAPS A POINT OF ORDER, THE PINNACLE FUND IS REALLY, UH WITH THE PROJECTED ALLOCATIONS PRETTY TIGHT, SO YOUR FIRST MOTION IS TO ADD ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE. THESE, UH VOTES ARE GOING TO BE, BUT IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU PASSED A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT DON'T PASS THE REDUCTION WITH THE WHOLE ROAD PROJECT, PERSON AND DEFICIT POSITION. SO PERHAPS. THE WHOLE ROAD. SHE COME OVER THE HOLDING DRUGS SHOULD COME FIRST. AND THEN THE REALLOCATION. SO I WITHDRAW THAT MOTION. THE SECOND WOULD WITHDRAW. WITHDRAW. OKAY I MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW HOLDEN ROAD, HOOVER TO BUCKEYE PROJECT OUT OF THE PINNACLE TEST.
REMOVING THE EIGHT MILLION. CORRECT JUST A PLACEHOLDER PLACEHOLDER.
READY. I PERSONALLY USE PLACEHOLDER, BUT HMM. WE KNOW THAT THE WHOLE ROAD PROJECT IS GOING TO BE A MILLION 4 50. I MEAN, WE HAVE DETAILED ENGINEERING ON THAT. SO THAT IT IF IT'S IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE WILL PROCEED AT HOME ROAD. PROJECT. WHEN YOU TAKE IT OUT ONE MORE, BUT THAT'S ONE. THAT'S WAY DEEPER THAN JUST A PLACE. IT'S REALLY EXCELLENT. YOU CLARIFY THE VOTE BEFORE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT IS THIS VOTE? MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH A SECOND. TO REMOVE THE HALTON ROAD. UH HOOVER TO BUCKEYE PARKWAY. ALLOCATION OF
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$8,450,000. FROM THE PINNACLE. TIP. BUDGET DETAILS ON PAGE ONE. OH, FIVE. THROUGH THE WHOLE THING TO REMOVE THE REMOVE THE PROJECT FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SUBCATEGORY THERE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING? JUST KIND OF CURIOUS FROM HIS. IS THERE SOME URGENCY TO DO THIS? OR IS IT JUST IN HERE FOR PLANNING OR WHAT? MARY JUST SAID IF THEY HAVE. PLANS AND THEY WILL PROCEED WITH THAT PROJECT IF IT STAYS. THE ONLY OTHER PIECE OF IT IS INFLATION FACTOR.SO I MEAN, THERE IS THERE'S A PRICE FOR NOT DOING. AND THERE'S ALSO A PWC GRANTS AND ALL THE WAY WE'VE DONE THEIR BEST ROAD AND HOME RUN. ALL SORTS OF PLACES ON TOO SO. CONFIRM. THIS IS THE WIDENING OF THE ROOM RIGHT THIRD LINE, RIGHT? BUT BUT I DO. THAT REALLY THAT RODE VERY WELL PROJECT BEFORE. THE STAGE HERE. MOVING ON THIS WITH THIS FUNDING, BUT IT COULDN'T REMOVE IT COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER FUNDING. LIKE OH, PWC GRANT. AND LAND AND FRANKLIN COUNTY. INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL THAT. WE'VE GOT OTHER PROJECTS. IF WE REMOVE THIS BECAUSE IT'S SLOW THE PROJECT. PROBABLY IN TERMS OF THE CYCLING OF THE OH PWC MAKE IT PROBABLY 24 PROJECT.
25. AND THERE CERTAINLY ISN'T DISTRESS ON THAT ROAD IS THERE WAS A HOME AND EMBARRASSED ROAD AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I LOOK AT IT IS IT'S NOT IN THIS CENTRAL PROJECT FOR THIS FOR NEXT YEAR. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? MR BERRY. MR HOPE? YES. THIS IS HELL. NO MR SHOT KEY WEST. NO. MY MOTION SECOND MOTION IS TO ALLOCATE WITHIN THE PINNACLE TIFF $1 MILLION. FOR PLANNING FOR COMMUNITY CENTER. DRAWINGS AND PLANS. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? HOLD HUNDREDS, ALL THE WORK DONE BEHIND IT. IT JUST MAY MAKE ANOTHER POINT, JUST FOR DISCUSSION. IN TERMS OF THAT FULTON ROAD PROJECT. IT COULD BE SEPARATING, PERHAPS TO TWO SEGMENTS, AS WE DID WITH DIMMERS TAKE CARE OF WHAT'S NEAR THE SCHOOL AREA. THE TWO SCHOOLS, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT THAT WHOLE LENGTH. EVERY YEAR, SO JUST ANOTHER DISCUSSION. WHAT. THAT COULD BE SEPARATED HOME FACES TWO DIFFERENT SIGNALS. THAT'S HMM. RIGHT? RIGHT NOW. THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT MOTION ON THE FLOOR. YOU HAD $1 MILLION. TO PAGE ONE. OH, FIVE UNDER THE PINNACLE TIP BUDGET DETAIL, INFRASTRUCTURES, SUBSECTION. FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER DRAWINGS AND PLANS THREAT. MR HOLT. YES. THIS IS HOW I KNOW MR SHAD KEEN CIGARETTES? NO, MR BARRY. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON PINNACLE TIFF? I JUST IT'S LIKE GOOD. I JUST MADE MENTION THAT IN TERMS OF DISCUSSION WE HAD IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE THE FUNDS OF THE PARTICULAR UH, TIPS DISTRICT IS THAT IT HAS TO BE A BENEFIT TO THAT DISTRICT . IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN EXCLUSIVE BENEFIT TO THAT DISTRICT. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE IN TERMS WITH UPPER ARLINGTON JUST DIDN TERMS OF THEIR RECREATION CENTER. THEY PASSED A RESOLUTION ORDINANCE THAT SAID ALL THEIR TIFFS. THEY DETERMINED BENEFIT. WILL BENEFIT FROM THE REC CENTER, SO THEY MADE A BLANKET THROUGHOUT THEIR I DON'T KNOW THEY HAD PROBABLY HAD 15 DIFFERENT TIPS, SO JUST
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AS IT NO. IT'S DISAPPOINTING TERMS OF WHAT FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR. THANK YOU FOR SURE. ALRIGHT UM IF THERE'S ANY OTHER TIPS DISCUSSIONS. I GOT WATER FUND LEFT, AND WE'VE GOT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND I'M GETTING PENALIZED FOR BEING PAST EIGHT O'CLOCK. SO I WOULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 108. AND HERE WE CAN SEE THAT 2023 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. LET'S TAKE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. MY QUESTION ON THE SENIOR BUS GARAGE HAS BEEN ANSWERED DOWN AT THE BOTTOM. AGAINST BARN IS THERE FOR 7 50 YEARS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. WE MIGHT HAVE GREAT ALL OF IT. TOWN CENTER ENHANCED PERFORMING STAGE IS THERE. NO. MR SHORT CASE AND INTERESTED IN SIDEWALK GRINDING IS THAT ON BECAUSE IT'S ON HERE, FORGET THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM IS IT'S FURTHER UP, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION AS WE'RE MOVING UP THERE FOR SERVICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING REPLACEMENT BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING ON THE COMPOUND THAT WE HAVE THERE. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OUR COMPLEX THAT YELLOW BUILDING IT'S THE MOST AGED BUILDING IN OUR FACILITY, AND IT HAS SOME SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL DEFECTS AND LEADER OF REPLACEMENT YELLOW BUILDING BUILDING IS THANKS. I JUST WONDERED WHICH WHICH IT WAS SO, MR HOLD IF I COULD GO BACK TO THE SIDEWALKS FOR A MINUTE, WE'VE HAD A BANNER YEAR AND I DIDN'T BRING THIS UP BEFORE, BUT I FELT LIKE OR INCOME TAX HAS BEEN GOING UP 3 TO 5 MILLION A YEAR LATELY AND YET, OR INCOME TAXES. WHEN WE WHEN MR. TURNER BUDGET AND HE BUILT IT AND IT'S FLAT. NO INCREASE IN IN THAT, BUT WE HAVE SOME. I THINK IT'S TIME TO PUT SOME MONEY BACK INTO THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM, AND I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT INCREASE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DOUBLE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF SIDEWALKS THAT NEED FIXING IN THIS COMMUNITY PROGRAM WORKS AND UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DOUBLE SINCE WE ARE CARRYING OVER QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AND I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY I MEAN, MR TURNER CERTAINLY KNOWS BETTER THAN I DO ABOUT THE INCOME TAX. BUT WHEN YOU WHEN WE BUDGET TO SAVE AMOUNT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TREND TRENDS FROM GOING UP AND UP SO I DON'T THINK OF MONEY WILL BE AN ISSUE FOR THE NEXT STEP 400,000 OUT THERE. DO YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO MORE SIDEWALK REPAIR? THEY MANAGED THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION ON THAT END, BUT I WOULD I WOULD NOTE THAT, UM BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT CYCLE ON THIS YEAR'S SIDEWALK PROGRAM. UM THEY WEREN'T ACTUALLY BUILT IN 22 WILL BE BIDDING THEM IN THE SPRING, AND SO WE'LL BE BUILDING THE 2022 PROGRAMS AND THE 23 PROGRAM NEXT SEASON. JUST GETTING DONE NOW WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T BUILT ANY IN 22 OUT OF THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM. WE'RE WE HAVE THE. AREA IDENTIFIED YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF TO DO THE ESTIMATES. WE ARE ENCUMBERING THE MONEY SO THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO BUILD. WHAT WHAT WE INTEND TO, BUT WE WILL TRULY BE BUILDING TWO YEARS WORTH OF SIDEWALK PROGRAM IN 23 20 TO 400,023 400,000, AND WE SPEND THAT SOME STATS WHAT'S DOING THAT'S THE SAME THING. I'M ASKING THAT WE WILL BE BUILDING NEARLY 800,023 I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. THANK YOU, MR SHOCKEY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING IF I CAN ASK YOU A QUESTION, EIGHT LINES UP FROM THE BOTTOM 750,000 TRAIL EXTENSIONS ON THIS IS FOR THE MAYOR OR CINDY OR KYLE. BUT THIS HIGHLAND PARK CONRAD PLUM RUN. DOES THIS INCLUDE THAT KIND OF FAMOUS PIECE THAT'S IN FRONT OF ON ORDERS ROAD IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH AND THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE RIGHT AWAY? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. BRING UP AND IS AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS YEAR BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT DON AND TAMMY AND THE REST OF THE TEAM HAVE IT. BUT AS FAR AS THE REHABILITATION OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE REHABILITATION OF THE LOBBY AND UPDATING THE AT LEAST PAINTING THE COUNCIL CAUCUS ROOM AND MAYBE REPLACING THE CABINETS THAT ARE FALLING APART. UM TAMMY. THIS ROOM AND IMPROVING THIS ROOM IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE ESTIMATES THAT WE RECEIVED THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN A ACCOUNTED FOR ABOUT DON THE OUTER AREA HERE. HAVE YOU? I MEAN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT. CAN[02:05:07]
WE SAVE MONEY BY DOING THIS ALL AT ONCE, INSTEAD OF PIECING IT. THANKS THE LOGIC WE USED FOR CUTTING IT OUT WAS WHEN WE TAKE OUT AND CAPITALIZE ON THAT REAL GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE THE HIKE. AND TAKE UP THE EMPTY SPACE WALL AS WE IMMEDIATELY GET INTO ALL NEW GRANTED FLOORING.WHICH IS LIKE PUTTING US OVER THE TOP, AND THEN THAT ALSO CALLS FOR PAINTING EVERYTHING RIGHT? AND, UH, THAT TILE THAT WOULD. WHEN WE SAID IF AND WHEN WE DO IT. WE WANT TO GO ON INTO THE RESTROOMS, SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PRICE DIFFERENCE. AND SO YOU YOU DON'T THINK THAT WE SAVE ANY MONEY BY DOING IT ALL AT ONCE? THEY WE TALKED TO, UH, OKAY, WHO WAS THE CONSULTANT ? AND HE SAID, NO. IT'S QUITE QUITE DOABLE LATER. NO NO PEDAL PROJECT. MAYBE. I JUST WAS ASKING JUST A LITTLE BIT. OKAY WELL, THE COMMENTS ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY, THAT TAKES ME TO THE WATER FUND. THE MR SECRETS, SAID SOME COMMENTS HERE . YEAH JUST I'M HEARING FROM YOU THAT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, THESE KIND OF THESE KIND OF ISSUES YOU'RE COMMITTING TO, AND WE DON'T EVEN NECESSARILY HAVE THIS. SAY THAT AGAIN BACK TO THE SHELDON EXAMPLE. AND I KNOW CINDY'S MENTIONED. THERE'S MORE LIKE THAT. YEAH, YOU'RE COMMITTING AND OWNING MORE. AND I'M JUST I EARLIER I WAS OUT OF PLACE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WOULD BE IN THE BUDGET AND STAFFING SERVICES. ASKING IF IT'S IF IT'S IN THIS KIND OF WORK IN THIS, ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. ASSUMING THAT YET FIRED HYDRANTS. I'M NOT ASSUMING THAT YET, OKAY? TO SAY THAT SPECIFIC INCIDENT WILL PLAY OUT THE WAY THAT IT PLAYS OUT. BUT IN GENERAL, WE HAVE ADDED LINE ITEMS THIS YEAR FOR HYDRANT, MAINTENANCE HYDRANT, EQUIPMENT, HYDRATES REPAIRS THAT WOULD BE COVERED IN THIS WATER BUDGET. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADD ANY MORE LINE ITEMS. WE HAVE GENERAL MAINTENANCE ITEMS COVERED IN THIS WATER BUDGET, RELOCATION OR DELIBERATELY RELOCATION. I DIDN'T DELIBERATELY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER . I'M NOT SURE YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE PLAYBACK. I THINK WHAT MR SECRETS IS SAYING AS HE WANTS THIS DONE SO THIS YEAR. SO I AM I CORRECT. YES BUT I ALSO I AGAIN MY POINT IS WE JUST IT SHOULDN'T BE WON T TUESDAY. IT SHOULD BE IF THERE'S ONES THAT WE FEEL THIS WAY ARE WE CAN FOREVER AND EVER FIX IT. IT'S IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR OUR THE WORDS USED EARLIER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR CITIZENS. $13 MILLION OF LIQUIDITY. LEGISLATOR SHOT. OFF WAIT. WE'LL JUST BECOMES A SOMEWHAT OF ANESTHETICS. THIS SEASON IS ANYTHING ELSE? THE FIRE. HUNDREDS ARE THERE PROTECTION OF THE COMMUNITY ARE NOT THERE TO LOOK PRETTY AND THE ONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE RELOCATED.
WE'RE NOT SURE YET. IT HAS BEEN HIT, AND IT WAS OUT OF SERVICE FOR AT LEAST A YEAR, IF NOT TWO YEARS WHEN IT DID GET FIXED, NEVER BEEN OTHERS ON THE SAME YEAH. OKAY UM, WE'VE MADE IT THROUGH THE PLANNED CODES AND TOPICS. UM ANY OTHER JOB, MR SHOCKEY, CAN WE GO BACK TO PAGE TWO, SECTION FIVE OF THE APPROPRIATION OF ORDINANCE JUST TO MAKE SURE LAST YEAR, WE HAD KIND OF REALLY DIFFICULT SECTIONS SESSION OF RIGHT AT THE BUDGET TIME. THE LAST MEETING AND DECEMBER GOING THROUGH THIS IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH WHAT THIS IS HOW THIS HAS SHOWN FOR ALLOCATION AND WE DON'T HAVE A YOU KNOW? BUT IF IT IS, LET'S BRING IT UP NOW, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM SO WE CAN GET THROUGH. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF. THE 19TH. TALKING ABOUT SECTION FIVE. SECTION FIVE, SECTION FIVE. THAT, LIKE I ASKED THE OUR LIAISON WITH HIM. THE CONVENTION BUREAU ONE, YOU KNOW? WELL. I'M AS GOOD AS I'M GONNA GET WITH IT. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE BCBS NOT HAPPY WITH IT. UM BUT THEY DID GET AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. AND THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS $100,000 BEING CARRIED OVER AND DISTRIBUTED IN 20. 23
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TO THE OTHER NEW BCBS AS WELL. SO THEY'RE NOT HAPPY. BUT, UM THEY'RE GETTING OVER IT. UM MR BOZO, AND I TALKED ABOUT SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT. LONG TERM AGREEMENT WE MAKE TWO WE COULD POSSIBLY MAKE IN THE FUTURE, TOO. AH! MM MAKE THEIR FUNDING AT LESS RISK AND YOU KNOW NOT VARIABLE FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND SOME WAY SO THEY CAN BUDGET AND PLAYING AND HAVE AND KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A FUTURE FOR FUNDING. SO WE'LL PROBABLY WORK THROUGH THAT IN 2023. THERE IS NO THEY RETRACTED THEIR LAWSUIT. UM YOU KNOW IT. WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT. YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT GOING FORWARD WITH THAT. AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I KNOW. FROM THE THEY DON'T THINK THEY CAN. IT'S YOU KNOW, SO UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CONTENTIOUS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE C B AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION AND I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND I DON'T SEE A WAY OUT AT THE MOMENT.I'VE GOT ONE LAST QUESTION. CHECK UM, THE BUDGET FOR, UM, THE TOWN CENTER WHERE? WHERE IS THE ADDITION? WHERE'S THE ARREST OF THE 19 OF THE APPROPRIATION? BECAUSE I THINK, AREN'T WE DOING 1 40 IN THE BACK PAGE 95, OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS IN THEIR ALLOCATED AS A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND, WHERE THE TOWN CENTER, WHICH ISR PORTION OF THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX.
BUT THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 75,000 YEAR FOR THE, UH TOWN CENTER 95. $85,000 ADDITIONAL FOR THE CHAMBER AND $20,000 ADDITIONAL FOR THE YELLOW THEATER OF ROAD WIN TOTAL THAT THE LITTLE THEATER IS GETTING HIS 30,000. THAT'S GREAT CHAMBERS GETTING IS 100 AND OKAY? ALL RIGHT? NO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TOWN CENTER GROUP WAS FUNDED IN THERE IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND ONE THING, MR BOZO. THAT WOULD BE, UM, I THINK WE IF WE COULD HAVE IT, HAVE YOU AND RANDY TALKED ABOUT, UM A FIVE YEAR. UM COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY TO THIS, UM BCB, SO THEY KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS COMING IN THE FUTURE AND THEY CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP THEM A LOT. AND AGAIN WITH THE WITH THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS , UH, NOW RECEIVING FUNDING, IT MAY BE MAYBE THEY SHOULD ALL BE INCLUDED. JUST ONE OF THE ORGANIZATION. IT'S ALWAYS PENDING COUNCIL APPROVAL ANY, HOWEVER, HERE SO BUT AT LEAST IT GIVES THEM ALL A GOAL. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR SHOCKING ANYMORE. ANYTHING ELSE? I'M GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHRISTINE. ALL RIGHT. UM I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S ATTENDANCE. YOU CAN PENALIZE ME FOR 20 MINUTES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AH! UM. ANY OTHER ITEMS. IF NOT, WE'RE ADJOURNED. T
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