[00:00:01] RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY 1ST 2000. MINUTE. IF. BEHIND GENERAL SCIENCE SPEAKERS LIST [Call to Order: Pres. Berry] DOWN HERE FOR A LECTERN. AH WE DID CORAM. WE ARE ASKING EVERYBODY TO EXIT THE MEAT. SIGN YOUR THE SEASON, PLEASE. THERE'S A LIBRARY WILL BE CLOSING SHORTLY. SO WHAT? PUT OUT THIS WAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS AT ANY TIME THIS EVENING FORWARD NOW. WE GET EVERYBODY MATCH NUMBER THREE C. UM. LITTLE HEALTH WITH THIS. MECHANISM RIGHT HERE. AND WHEN YOU SEE THE RUN LEFT SOME LIGHT ASK YOU TO CREASE. SUMMARIZING STATEMENTS. OKAY? UM. WE WILL HAVE THE SLASH COULDN'T SIGN. WE ARE IN TEMPORARY QUARTERS IN SEPTEMBER , SO WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. UH THERE IS IT ACTUALLY BRINGS VITAMIN NEEDS IT AND WE STARTED THIS. EVERYBODY'S SAYING IN. THANK YOU. AND WHILE I'M WHILE WE'RE WAITING I WAS IF YOU DO COME UP, PLEASE WATCH YOUR STATUS BECAUSE ACROSS THIS FRONT AND INSTEAD OF BEHIND THERE ARE CORDS ON FOUR, OKAY? 10% YEAH, SEEING PEOPLE ARE FOR RECORDING FERGUSON'S. SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE YOUR VOICE TO BE HEARD IN THIS ROOM. CITY GUYS. IT'S CONVERSATION. PLEASE STAND FROM OTHER SOUTH KOREA. I'M GLAD YOU BELIEVE ALL RIGHT. SHE'S SERIOUS. THE PISTOL. BUT THE SIGNAL. STILL HAVE YOUR MONEY TOMORROW. SPEAKER YOU DON'T. MR SHOT. KEY PRESIDENT REST. YES BARRY? YES MR. HOLT [Approval of Minutes] HERE HERE. OH YOU WANT TO APPROVE THE MEANING THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING OF SECOND MR SHOCKEY? YES. MR CIGARETTES? YES VERY YES. YES. BEFORE WE ENTER INTO THE AGENDA. I WANT TO EXCUSE THE MAYOR FROM THE MEETING. THAT EMOTION TO EXCUSE SECOND. MR CIGARETTES? [Welcome & Reading of Agenda] YES VERY YES. YES YES. TONIGHT'S AGENDA UNDER LANDS. WE HAVE RESOLUTION CR 24 23 UNDER SERVICE OR NC, 17 23 AND UNDER SAFETY OR DID SEE 18 23 IS OKAY WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS WE WILL [Resolution CR-24-23 Appeal the decision of the Board of Zoning Appeals granting a Variance for Yard Obstructions & Fences located at 5588 Scotch Woods Drive.] PROCEED WITH MR SHOCKING WONDERLANDS. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I HAVE ONE ITEM THIS EVENING. WE HAVE RESOLUTION CR 24 23. RESOLUTION APPEALING THE DECISION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS GRANTING A VARIANCE FOR OBSTRUCTIONS AND FENCES. LOCATED AT 55 88. SCOTS WOULD DRIVE I WAS NEVER ON MARCH 27TH, THE BZ , A GRANTED VARIANCES FOR YARD OBSTRUCTIONS AND FENCES LOCATED AT THE SCOTS WOULD DRIVE PROPERTY WITH FOUR STIPULATIONS . DO WE HAVE THE STIPULATIONS? UM. UH I APOLOGIZE. I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PICTURES. BUT NO STIPULATIONS, BUT NOT THE STIPULATIONS. RIGHT? LET ME READ THIS STIPULATIONS FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR PROPERTY OWNER THAT CAN [00:05:09] TO CONTRACT WITH A GROSS CITY REGISTERED FENCE DIRECTOR TO SUBMIT FOR A BUILDING PERMIT AND RELOCATE DEFENSE SECTION RUNNING PARALLEL TO CARLISLE DRIVE BACK TO NO MORE THAN 10 FT FROM THE 30 FT BUILDING SETBACK LINE NUMBER TO PERMIT APPLICATION BY REGISTERED CONTRACTORS WE SUBMITTED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS APPROVAL NUMBER THREE FENCES TO BE RELOCATED WITHIN 60 DAYS FROM THE 10TH FROM THE DATE OF DISAPPROVAL. SUBMITTED SUBMITTAL OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THE CHIEF BUILDING AND ZONING OFFICIAL. NUMBER FOUR EVERGREEN SHRUBS OF A MAN AND A MINIMUM OF 24 INCHES IN HEIGHT AT THE TIME OF PLANNING ARE TO BE INSTALLED WITHIN 30 DAYS OF DEFENSE INSTALLATION ALONG THE RELOCATION SECTION DEFENSE WITH A MAXIMUM SPACING OF FIVE FT. APART ON THERE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THIS IS THE WHAT IS BEING APPEALED THIS EVENING HONOR. UM . LET ME CALL ON THE PEOPLE OF FOLKS MAKING THE, UH, THE APPEAL . PLEASE ON THERE, AND, UH, FOR OUR PAJAMA. I HAVE COME TO THE PODIUM. I'M HERE SIGNED UP. THE CHAIRMAN. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN PULL THAT SCREEN UP TAMMY BECAUSE IT'S BLOCKING OFF THE LOWER PART OF THE AT THE TIME AND THE CLOSED CAPTION AND GO TO THE TOP. JUST FOR THIS. CLOSE IT. YES, WE JUST HAD IT. THERE YOU GO. THERE WE GO. OKAY. BETTER THANK YOU. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE STATION NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. MY NAME IS FARAH JAMA. THE ADDRESS IS 5588 SCOTCH . WOODS DRIVE. STUDIO OHIO. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU STATE YOUR CASE FOR THE FOR APPEALING? THE EASY A RULING, PLEASE. UM WITHIN THREE MINUTES. KIND OF SINCERELY APPELLANT ON. I THINK WE CERTAINLY CAN EXTEND THAT ON THERE. OTHERS THAT'S OKAY OF COUNSEL AND MIGHT BE A LITTLE COMPLEX. YES THANK YOU. YES SOME BASICALLY JUST LISTEN TO RISE. ZERO CASES. WE WERE NEW HOME BUILDERS. WE'VE MOVED INTO THE CITY FIRST HOME AND WE PUT IN A FAST OR OBLIGATION TO PUT A FENCE AND A DECK BOTH APPROVED AT THE SAME TIME. THERE WERE SOME STIPULATIONS ON THAT DECK AND ONCE WE BUILT A DECK TOWARDS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS OF THE BILL IN THE DECK, UM THE RESPECTING PEOPLE CAME IN, AND THEY SAID THAT THAT WAS NOT GUILTY TO WEIGH THE SYRIA GOODS SO HE HAD TO DEMOLISH. IT CHANGED IT, SPEND MORE MONEY AND I GUARD AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE FACT THE WAY UM, THE NECK WAS BUILT. YES AFFECTED DEFENSE BUILDING, SO WE HAD TO RESUBMIT ANOTHER APPLICATION AND WAITING FOR TWO MONTHS AND WE COMPLETED DEFENSE AND WE DIDN'T HEAR BACK FROM THAT A GUARD. UM BEFORE WE FINISH THE FENCE AND TIME, YOU KNOW OTHERS GOVERNMENT PURPOSES THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT WITH I DIDN'T HEAR BACK FOR THAT LONG THERE. PROBABLY NOT EXPECTING ANY UM, ANY CHANGES SO ONCE WE FINISH THE FENCE? INSPECTORS CAME BY AND SAID THIS IS NOT THE WAY YOU SHOULD BE BUILT. IT SHOULD BE MOVED IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS, AND WE TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS. WE YOU KNOW, VISITED OUR NEIGHBORS AND SOME WELL, SOME OF THE THINGS WERE, UM, THAT WE AGREE WITH IS YOU KNOW HOW FAR IS OFF FROM THE YOU KNOW FROM THE SIDEWALK. UM AND. LOOKING AT OUR NEIGHBORS. THEY DO HAVE YOU NO LONGER EXTENSION FROM SIDEWALK AND OURS DOES NOT CURVE AS THE BECAUSE HE GETS CLOSER AS THE, UM UM, SIDEWALK CURVES. SO WE DIDN'T YOU KNOW, HAS AN ISSUE WITH WHERE? UM SO THERE'S EIGHT FT BETWEEN THE FIRST PART HERE, EAT A BIT MORE INCHES, AND THEN THERE'S GETS CLOSER HERE. SO, UM MR. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TO THE OFFICE MULTIPLE NUMEROUS TIMES. MY WIFE AND THEY'RE NOT OFFICE AND THERE WAS NO DIRECTION OF YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT SHOULD BE AND WHAT IT SHOULD BE FROM FROM THE, UM, BROKE THE DIRECTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED. UM AND ONCE WE FINISH THIS WHEN WE GOT YOU KNOW THE STIPULATIONS HEY, THIS IS NOT ACCORDING TO THE PROCESS. SO UM ALL IN ALL WE'RE OKAY WITH YOU KNOW WHAT THE SHOULD BE FROM [00:10:07] THE SIDEWALK STANDPOINT, BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WAS WHEN EVERY BUILDER NEXT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THEIR FENCES TO THEIR BACK LINE TO THE PROPERTY LINE. WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAD TO MOVE THAT PART. I MEAN , EVERY NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST HAD THEIR FENCE LINE IS A DAY OF POVERTY LINE AT THE BACKYARD, SO AND SO THEY'RE ONE OF US TO MOVE IT BACK FROM THE BACK LINE TO, UM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS SEVEN TO PUT A GRASS. UH SHRUBS. I MEAN, WE DIDN'T GET THERE YET. SO WE HAVEN'T FINISHED OR I GUESS WE NOT IN THE WE HAVEN'T WE FINISHED IT, BUT WE BUY TIME WE FINISHED. IT WAS SAID THAT WE HAD TO MOVE IT SO WE CAN PUT THE SCRAPS IN YET. AND UH, I BUILT IT WITH THE FENCE IN THERE ON THE DECK WITH MY FRIENDS, COLLEAGUES AND, UM AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS MORE OF A PUNISHMENT TO SAY. HEY YOU KNOW, UM, YOU GOTTA GET SO ANOTHER PERSON TO HIRE ANOTHER PERSON TO DO THIS. BUT IT'S TO THE APPROVED SO THAT WAS ANOTHER STIPULATION THAT THE CITY PUT IN. UM I MEAN, THERE WAS NO GUIDANCE AND SAY, THE FIRST TIME TO BUILD IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A STUDY APPROVED BUILDER TO BEGIN WITH. UM SO THERE'S THIS MIGHT, UH, CONCERNS THERE. SO ONE IS, YEAH. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNOW THERE'S NO, UM OBSTRUCTION CITY, YOU KNOW BROS ESPECIALLY IN THE FIRST PART OTHERS OVER 88 FT. FROM THE SIDEWALK. UM BUT IF LINDA AND WHICH IS CERTAINLY MOVE IT, UM. TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE, BUT WE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE STIPULATIONS THAT AFTER THE FACT AFTER WE GOT TO POOF FROM THE CITY, INITIALLY FROM THE FIRST APPLICATION TO COME BACK AND REALLY LOOK AT IT AND SAY YOU GOTTA MOVE IT NOW, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL HEAR FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT NEXT, OKAY? AND. SECURING HIS NAME FOR THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW YOU , LAURA SCOTT. PLANNING AND ZONING COORDINATOR. HEY DID YOU GO THROUGH THE INFORMATION? AS FAR AS WHAT WAS DONE? UM ON THIS AS FAR AS THE COMMUNICATION AND WHAT WAS, UM WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE HOMEOWNERS ABOUT WHAT DEFENSE WHERE THE FENCE SHOULD BE. AND THINGS LIKE THAT. COULD YOU GO THROUGH SOME INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE, SIR? SURE UM, SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, MRS DRAMA BEGAN WORKING WITH THE BUILDING DIVISION IN, UM MAYOR JUNE OF LAST YEAR. UH, THERE WAS A BUILDING PERMIT APPROVED THAT SHOWED THE EVENTS AND THE DECK BEHIND THE SETBACK. AND, UM, THE DECK WAS INSPECTED AROUND JUNE 20TH AND WAS TURNED DOWN. BECAUSE IT ENCROACHED INTO THE 30 FT SETBACK AND MR BARROSO WENT OUT THE NEXT DAY AND MET WITH MRS DRAMA AND EXPLAINED TO HER WHAT THE ISSUE WAS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION DIDN'T MEET THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED. JUST INTERJECT JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A 30 FT SETBACKS OF THE HOUSE ON THE FRONTAGE. AND ALSO 30 FT. SETBACK ON THE SIDE FROM AND IS IT? IT'S FROM THE STREET. RIGHT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE SO AND A QUARTER LOBBY HAVE TWO POINTS OUT FAST. SO THIS IS A GOOD GUY AND ADDRESS DISAPPOINT, SAID THAT SO DEFENSE WOULD HAVE TO BE 30 FT. BACK ON THE SIDE, ALSO THERE ALONG THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, TYPICALLY IN THE BUILDING LINE, THIS ONE WAS BUILT JUST A FOOT BEHIND THE BUILDING LINES. IT'S ACTUALLY AT 31, NOT 30. SO ANYTHING THAT GOES OUT IN FRONT OF THAT. I'VE BEEN CONSIDERING APPROACHING THIS SETBACK AND THE REQUIREMENT. OKAY THANK YOU. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTANDS WHAT MR BARROSO WAS DEALING WITH ON THE 21ST WAS TO EXPLAIN THAT THIS AREA THAT YOU APPROACHED IN FRONT OF SUB FACT WHAT IT ACTUALLY WAS THAT WAS CANTILEVERED OVER THE POST, SO THE POST MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT THE CANTILEVERS WHAT TOOK IT OVER INTO THE SIDE YARD AND CREATED THE ENCROACHMENT, AND AT THAT TIME HE WANTED TO AGAIN RESTATE BECAUSE, UM, MRS DRAMA WAS NOT USING CONTRACTOR. AND SO THERE [00:15:02] WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT YOU KNOW, SINCE SHE'S NOT A CONTRACTOR, HOW THIS SHOULD BE DONE. WHAT SETBACKS NAME AND I'M I'M SURE IT WAS VERY CONFUSING. BUT HE AGAIN WENT OUT IN PERSON AND EXPLAIN THAT BOTH THE YOU KNOW HE WOULD ALLOW HER TO LEAVE THE DECK WHERE IT WAS ALLOWED THE TWO FT ENCROACHMENT SINCE IT WAS ALREADY BUILT AND DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE HER TEAR IT DOWN, BUT THAT DEFENSE HAD TO BE BUILT AT THE SETBACK LINE. AND SO THERE WAS A, UM ANOTHER PLAN THAT WAS MARKED UP ON THE 21ST OF MAY THAT HAD THE HIGHLIGHTS SO JUSTIN TAYLOR HIGHLIGHTED THE BUILDING SETBACK LINE JUST SORT OF BE EASIER. AND WHILE MR BUSH WAS OUT THERE, HE ALSO TOOK PAINT SPRAY PAINTED ON THE GROUND, THE 30 FT SETBACK LINE, SO THERE'S SOME OTHER PICTURES IN THERE. THAT WOULD SHOW YOU THAT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE CURVE THIS IS THE PROPERTY WELL MAINTAINED. 71 IT FOLLOWS THAT LITERATURE. CELEBRATE ONES RIGHT ABOUT IN HERE. AND SO THERE ARE EMAILS TO SUPPORT. UM THAT MR BARROSO WAS OUT THAT DAY AND WHAT HE EXPLAINED TO MRS DRAMA AND WHAT HIS EXPECTATION WAS FOR THE FENCE. AND THEN, UM, ON THE JULY 25TH. I RECEIVED A VARIANCE APPLICATION, BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO PROCESS IT BECAUSE UM, IN ORDER TO PROCESS ABUSE, A VARIANCE YOU HAVE TO FIRST BE TURNED DOWN FOR A BUILDING FROM US. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE TO PRESENT A FENCE OR A DECK THAT DOES NOT MEET CODE. WHAT YOUR WISHES, AND THEN IF IT IS TURNED DOWN, YOU CAN USE THAT TO SET UP YOUR APPEAL. SO I JUST RESPONDED WITH EMAILS AGAIN SAYING THIS IS WHY I CAN'T, UH, WORKING ON YOUR I'M SORRY. THIS IS WHY I CAN'T PROCESS YOUR APPEAL. AT THIS TIME. WE NEED THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND THAT WAS REALLY SPECIFICALLY. WHERE IS THE FENCE LOCATED? WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR? AS FAR AS ENCROACHMENTS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY. WE DIDN'T BUILD THE FENCE OUT THERE SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS LOCATED. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION. MOVE FORWARD AND THEN ON, UM SO I DIDN'T GET ANY SORT OF, UM, ANYTHING BACK JUST IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DID NOT GET A BUILDING PERMIT SORBITOL OR REVISION TO REVIEW AND TO TURN DOWN FOR THE FENCE AND THE CURRENT LOCATION TO SET UP THE VARIANTS. AND SO, UM, ON SEPTEMBER THE 13TH JUSTIN TAYLOR FROM THE FENCE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND IT WAS NOT BEING CONSTRUCTED WHERE IT HAD BEEN APPROVED FOR THE PLAN AND SO NOTICE THE VIOLATION WAS ISSUED. UM AND THEN, UM, IN DECEMBER, A THE COURT COMPLAINT WAS FILED IN ME SQUIRT SINCE THERE HAD DEFENSE HAD NOT BEEN REMOVED, AND THERE HAD BEEN NO SUBMITTAL SHOWING EXACTLY WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE THE FENCE TO BE . AND THEN IN MARCH, UM WE GOT ANOTHER REQUEST FROM MRS JAMMEH FOR THE VARIANTS. AND HONESTLY, WE'VE ALL BEEN DEALING WITH IT FOR SO LONG, AND WE WANTED TO UM , YET THE REQUEST TO THE B C A. SO WE JUST TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES. WE CALLED MR GERMAN. SO CAN WE COME OUT? CAN WE TAKE MEASUREMENTS? CAN WE FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE THIS FENCES WILL HELP YOU DO THE VARIANTS, AND WE'LL GET IT TO THE B. C A SO THAT THEY CAN REVIEW IT AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND EITHER APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. AND SO MOST OF THE APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO UM, FOR THE MARCH 27TH RUNNING OF THE B. C. A WAS PROVIDED BY STAFF AND I SHARED ALL OF IT WITH MRS HUSSEIN AND, UM MRS DRAMA AND SHE GOT A LOOK AT IT AND SHE WAS HAPPY WITH IT AND SAID, GO WITH IT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. AND WE BROUGHT THAT TOO BUSY. A, UM ON MARCH THE 20. I'M SORRY. UM BC WAS ON MARCH 27TH AND, UM, THEY DID NOT SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR THE CURRENT LOCATION OF DEFENSE , BUT THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING IT BACK. UM TO JUST 10 FT. FROM THE BUILDING SETBACK LINE, AND WHAT THAT WOULD ALLOW . UM THE JOB IS TO DO IS TO STILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF UM, SO THIS IS THE GUY SITTING DOWN A LITTLE TOO FAR. THEN THERE'S A SESSION OF FACTS ABOUT BEING 18 . AND THEN THERE'S GATE AND, UM, SO THIS IS A CAMPAIGN. OKAY SO THIS WOULD JUST BE A 10 FT IN PRESIDENT, WHICH IS FAIRLY COMMON FOR BUSY INSTAGRAM'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT AND, UM, IF THEY JUST TOOK THE FENCE THIS SESSION THAT WAS GOING OUT OF THE SAME ONE TURNED IT BACK. DO THAT OTHER BARREL RIGHT THERE, AND SHE HAD NO CAR. SO HERE TO SHOW THIS IS JONATHAN AND PUT THEM UP HERE AND THERE SO SHE COULD ALSO SEE THROUGH THE PICTURE OF THE SAME LINE AND I ALSO SHARED THOSE PICTURES AS PART OF MY POWER POINT PRESENTATION FOR V C. A SO THAT WOULD STILL ALLOW, UM, WITH JAMMEH'S PLAYING ROOM TO GET THROUGH THE GATE WITH THEIR MO ER. OR YOU KNOW, POOL TOYS OR WHATEVER. THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, BE ABLE TO GET PAST THAT DECK AND USE THAT BACKYARD . UM BUT THEN BRINGING THAT [00:20:02] ENCROACHMENT INTO LINE WITH WHAT CUZ HAS APPROVED BEFORE, SO THAT'S BEEN MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS CASE AT THE BBC, A MEETING SO THE BC A APPROVED THIS WITH THESE FOUR STIPULATIONS ON HERE , MOVING HIS BACK, BUT NOT PUTTING IT BACK TO THE 30 FT. JUST MOVING EFFECT. 10 FT RIGHT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. THEY HAD APPROVED A BJ VARIANTS FOR 10 FT FOR THE ROB FAMILY, SO IT'S A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE ARE NEW NEW, UM, HOMES AND DEFENSES AND WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO JUST STEP TO CODE AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT ALSO BE HELPFUL TO PEOPLE THAT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP LIKE IN THIS CASE. WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF THE DECK. AND YEAH, PERHAPS NOT THE BEST OF UNDERSTANDING. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THE BUSY. A UH, DENIED LEAVING THE FENCE WHERE IT WAS AT. WHERE IS THAT CORRECT PROVE THE SECOND MOTIONS TO MOVE IT. UM, BACK TO WHERE? 10 FT. OFF OF THE OFF OF THE BUILDING UNDER CORRECT RUNNING PARALLEL WITH THE PROPERTY LINE RUNNING PARALLEL, AND THE PROPERTY LINE DOES CURVES. SOME OF THAT SENSOR CAN THEY YES, WELL, THEY COULD EITHER CURVE IT OR THEY COULD JUST TAKE IT STRAIGHT BACK A COUPLE MORE FEET AND DIFFERENT ANGLES BEHIND AS LONG AS IT I BELIEVE IT THE WAY IT WAS. BRITAIN IS NOT TO APPROACH MORE THAN 10 FT. UNDERSTAND IT TODAY. WHAT WHAT THE, UM MR JARVIS. FEELING ON THERE IS THAT, UH, THIS THIS. THESE FOUR STIPULATIONS AND THE DETERMINATION BY THE BUSY, EH? MM. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW. YES IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. FOR THE RECORD. NO. I JUST WANT TO CONCLUDE THIS E 55 88 SCOTCH WOODS DRY RIGHT? SO BASICALLY OUR NEIGHBOR RIGHT ACROSS FROM US WHEN WE WERE AT THE BC, A MEETING, UM, FOR THE APPEAL LAURA HAD SHARED WITH US AT THE PEOPLE RIGHT ACROSS FROM US. ALSO DID A VARIANT FOR THE FENCE. SAME AS WE DID, AND WE JUST WANTED TO BE TREATED FAIRLY. SINCE EVERYBODY ELSE IS GETTING THEIR FENCES BIGGER, WHATEVER WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS MIGHT BE. SO WE TALKED TO HER NEIGHBOR, AND IT LOOKS LIKE FROM WHAT LAURA HAD TOLD US FROM THAT MEETING. IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. THERE THERE ARE FANCY IS A LOT BIGGER THAN WHAT SHE HAD APPROVED FOR US DURING THE B C A. SO WE JUST WANT TO BE TREATED FAIR, SINCE THERE IS A LOT BIGGER THAN WHAT WE WERE APPROVED. OKAY SO THEY HAVE TWO BIG DOGS. WE HAVE FOUR KIDS. WE NEED ALL THIS SPACE THAT WE CAN GET. AND I KNOW THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN IT THAT BIG. BUT NOW THAT IT'S ALL DONE, WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU GUYS CAN ACCOMMODATE SOMETHING, SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO TEAR UP THE WHOLE THING AND SPEND MORE MONEY ON THAT THING. YOU KNOW, UM LIKE I SAID, WE JUST WANT TO BE TREATED FAIR SINCE OUR NEIGHBOR'S FENCE IS ALSO A LOT BIGGER THAN WHAT SHE HAD SAID WE WOULD WE WOULD BE APPROVED FOR, UM IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF MONEY TO PUT BACK IN THAT THING AGAIN TO HIRE PEOPLE TO DO IT. THE MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO, UM IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO, LIKE, PUT SOME PINE TREES ON THERE. WE CAN DO THAT. BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD AT LEAST BE CONSIDERATE INTO SPENDING MORE MONEY AND ALSO BEING TREATED FAIR, JUST LIKE EARL NEIGHBOR RIGHT ACROSS FROM US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, UH, MISS SCOTT, IF YOU CORRECT ME ON THIS , THIS IS THE STIPULATIONS HERE . SIZE WISE BY THE SAME AS WHAT THE PERSON ACROSS THE STREET HAS ON THERE. IS THAT CORRECT THE PODIUM. REASON WHY WE CAN'T WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS IS ALL OF COURSE REPORTING AND, UH OH. SURE SO THE THERE IS ONE THING THAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THE ROB PROPERTY. AND THAT IS THAT THEY ALSO HAVE A 30 FT SETBACK. ENTIRE SUB SUB DIVISION HAS A 30 FT SETBACK, BUT THE ROB HOME WAS BUILT 14 FT BEHIND THE 30 FT SETBACK. SO WHEN THEY GOT A 10 FT. UM ENCROACHMENT FROM THE B. C A. THAT WOULD BE 14 FT. PLUS 10, SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOT 24 [00:25:03] FT OF FENCE THAT COMES OUT IN FRONT. SO IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THEY'VE GOT A GREATER DEVIATION FROM B C A. BUT THEY STILL ONLY GOT 10 FT THAT THEIR HOUSE WAS BUILT 14 FT BACK, AND SO THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BUILD OUT TO THAT SET BACK. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. OKAY? SO HUMAN? YES UNDERSTAND IS WHAT MRS SCOTT. WHAT WITH LAURA JUST SAID, IS THAT UNDERSTOOD BY BY THE COMPLAINANT REMEMBER, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. IS THAT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT? YES FROM UP HERE, PLEASE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE DIFFERENCES. SIDE SIZE WISE THERE. YES. CAN YOU PULL UP THE SIDEWALK IF YOU DON'T MIND? HMM. THIS MORNING BEFORE WE GOT BUT GOD, I DIDN'T KNOW. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? ONE YES MEASURE FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE FENCE. NO I WAS JUST AS MEASURED IT A LITTLE BIT OF HER NATIVE SON. OKAY MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS A MEASURED IT AND IS ABOUT 14. RIGHT RIGHT. SO I MEAN, HE HAS A BIGGER YARD, AND I MEAN, IT TOOK IT TOOK NATURE THIS MORNING. I MEAN, RIGHT, UNDERSTAND? AND DID YOU UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION IS THE HOUSE IS BUILT DIFFERENTLY AS FAR AS ITS SITUATION RUN THEIR LIFE. THAT'S OVER THERE. IF YOU WOULD DIRECT IT WASN'T NATION WAS WHAT WAS THE SEVENTH? WHAT WAS IT FROM THE BACK FENCE SIDE. WHAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT OH, THAT, BUT I'LL HAVE TO GET THINGS. PLEASE YOU SHOULD HAVE SAT ON THE END. YES. WHAT IS THE REGULATION FROM THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT THAT'S NOT 30. FT IS IT FROM THE REAR? SO THE FENCE COULD. THERE IS NO SET BACK IN THE VERY HARD FOR A FENCE. THE FENCE CAN SIT RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE AT THE REAR. IT'S JUST WHEN YOU GET TO THE SIDE, AND YOU HAVE TO OR THE FRONT YOU HAVE TO FRONT YARD ON A CORNER BECAUSE OF A FRONT YARD WOULD BE, UM, ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS YOU CAN STREET HERE, SO THAT'S ONE POINT AND IN THE STREET HERE, SO THAT'S TWO POINT GUARDS. SO THIS AREA HERE IS THE 30 FT SETBACK. SO THE ONLY ISSUE IS THAT THAT YES, WE ONLY RIGHT. SO IF WE ARE TO THE INTERIOR, SO THERE'S NO ISSUE THERE, BUT THIS AREA HERE THAT EXTENDS OUT TO HERE. THIS IS THE AREA RIGHT HERE. THAT WOULD BE AN ADJUSTMENT. BUT DR GENTLEMEN. IS THAT UNDERSTAND? AND ALSO YOUR HOUSE FACES IT COULD FACE EITHER WAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE SIZE OF THE LOTS OF DEFENSE INDUSTRY, OKAY? THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE CAN COUNSEL MR SHOCK. I THINK THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE BECAUSE I KNOW, UM THAT THESE STIPULATIONS WERE KIND OF MIRRORING A PREVIOUS VARIANTS THAT WAS APPROVED IN THIS PARTICULAR SITE. UM I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THE CONCERN OF POTENTIALLY THOSE EVERGREEN SHRUBS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE LINE. AT A SPOT WHERE THE ROAD AS YOU CAN SEE, THEN ZOFF WHAT, POTENTIALLY AT SOME POINT OBSCURE VISIBILITY, UM OF VEHICLES. ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE? WELL, WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE. CAN YOU CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? YOU COULD GO THROUGH THAT SINCE YOU DEAL WITH THIS ALL THE TIME, SO THE DISTANCE FROM BRADLEY HERE, UM, TO DISPENSE IS OVER 60 FT. AND WE CONSIDER THAT TO BE VERY ADEQUATE FOR VISION CLEARANCE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY JUST TO CLARIFY EVERYTHING ON HERE, UM. IF YOU VOTE ON THIS, AND THE POSITIVE IS THAT YOU ARE UPHOLDING THE APPEAL. HERE, UM. MR SMITH AND MY HANG INCORRECT ON THAT. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT, SIR? I'M SAYING VOTE YES. POSITIVE IF YOU VOTE YES. YOU ARE MOVING THAT THIS BE APPROVED AND YOU'RE THE RESOLUTION IS A FEELING THAT DECISION, SO IT'S APPEALING. IT'S APPROVING AN APPEAL OF THE DECISION. IF YOU DON'T I MISS KELLY, WAIT A MINUTE. I'VE GOT A QUESTION, MR SMITH. THANK YOU, MR SMITH. CAN YOU SIMPLIFY THAT FOR ME, IF NECESSARY. YEAH. UM, [00:30:04] I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE IT ANY MORE CONFUSING, ACTUALLY, SIR, UM, CLARIFIED FOR ME, PLEASE. YES SIR. SO A NO VOTE IS EASY. A NO VOTE ON THIS SITUATION WOULD LEAVE THE VARIANTS AS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. OKAY APPEALS SEES ME DESIGN PEERS THAT INCLUDE THE 10 FT. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE 10. FT. YES, SIR. OKAY YES, VOTE. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, SIR. I'M REALLY CONFUSED AS TO WHAT HE HAS VOTE HERE WE DO HERE HE WOULD REVERSE THE DECISION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. SO I THINK BASED ON HOW THE ORDINANCES WRITTEN AND BASED ON HOW WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST THAT WOULD REMOVE THE VARIANTS COMPLETELY. THEN THEY'D HAVE TO MEET CODE, WHICH MEANS THE FENCE WOULD BASICALLY HAVE TO GO ALONG THE HOUSE. MISS KELLY. YOU HAD AN OPINION ON THIS. CAN I GO AHEAD? YOU KNOW, I'M READING THIS. AND I WAS TALKING TO MR BARROSO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU UM, WHEN YOU'RE ASKING THAT QUESTION, SO I DO APOLOGIZE. I MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME, BUT I HAVE CONDITIONS ONE AND TO GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE. UH UM, YOU KNOW, UNDER OHIO LAW, YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSE TO BE A, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN CONTRACTOR TO DO ELECTRICAL WORK TO DO PLUMBING WORK. THERE ISN'T ANY SUCH THING AS A FENCE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE TO DO THIS. I I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PROHIBITION OR HIGHER LAW THAT A HOMEOWNER CAN'T PUT THEIR OWN FENCE IN. NOW DO I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HIRE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY GOOD AT THIS. YES HOWEVER, I DO HAVE SOME PAUSE WITH ONE AND TWO BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY. IF THE APPLICANT CHOSE TO DO IT HIMSELF FOR HIS WIFE, WHOEVER WHY THEY COULD NOT. BECAUSE THERE IS NO SPECIAL CERTIFICATION. I'M AWARE UNDER OHIO WALL. OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T GO TO ELECTRIC WORK IN CHUCK'S HOUSE. UM HE WOULDN'T WANT ME TO. BUT FENCES ARE DIFFERENT, SO I'M I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY WHY WE WOULD REQUIRE A REGISTER. NOW IF THEY DO HIRE A CONTRACTOR, THEY DO HAVE TO BE REGISTERED TO WORK IN THE CITY OF GROWTH CITY. WE DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION PROVISIONS. OKAY, SO PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH MR CHAIRMAN. STEPHEN ARE WE ARE WE PERMITTED TO MAKE CHANGES TO THIS. YES SIR. UNDER THE UNDER THE CODE, SIR, YOU ARE PERMITTED TO THERM TO REVERSE FOUR TO MODIFY THE DECISION OF THE BOARD DESIGNING APPEALS. FRANKLY SIR, YOU HAVE ALL THE DISCRETION WORLD TO MAKE ANY CHANGES AS YOU SEE FIT DOING ANYTHING. UM MISS SCOTT CAN BACK UP FOR A MINUTE. DO YOU KNOW WHY THE WHY THE FIRST TWO THERE AS FAR AS A REGISTERED FENCE, ERECTOR. UM, YES, I. I MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION IN THE STAFF REPORT BECAUSE I FELT THAT, UM THE, UH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE EVENTS BEING BUILT IN THE WRONG LOCATION WAS BECAUSE THE PLAN WAS NOT FOLLOWED AND THAT THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE OF NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE CODE UNDERSTANDING SETBACKS AND, UM, THE LAST THING THAT ANY OF US WANTED WASN'T TO GET MOVED AND THEN MOVED INTO THE WRONG PLACE TO DO IT AGAIN. OKAY? SO UM, THAT WOULD BE JUST A RECOMMENDATION AND AGAIN, UH, TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM. BUT OBVIOUSLY, IF THAT'S NOT THEY'RE CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND DO THE REVISION. AND LET WE'LL JUST HOPE THAT IT'S IN THE RIGHT SPOT , OR WE'LL BE HAPPY TO COME OUT AND MARKET AGAIN. OKAY? THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE. I MEAN, I MR CHAIRMAN. I'M JUST I AM LIKE MISS MISS SCOTT JUST SAID I AM CONCERNED THAT IF THE HOMEOWNER DOES THIS AND IT'S WRONG THEN. YOU KNOW, THE CITY COMES BACK OUT AND SAYS IT'S WRONG. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE IT AGAIN. I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO GO THROUGH THAT. SO I MEAN, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH? I'M ASKING YOU IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH HAVING THEM MARKET AND THEN AND THEN AND THEN YOU'RE PUTTING THE FENCE IN YOURSELF. I MEAN, I IF YOU DO THAT, I JUST KNOW THAT YOU'RE YOU CAN'T CALL THE CONTRACTOR AND SAY, HEY, YOU PUT IN THE WRONG SPOT BECAUSE IT'S YOU THAT MOVED IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO LET'S WHATEVER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. I MEAN, IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE WITH US, REMOVING THE WORD REGISTERED AND YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT RIGHT THEN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH BAKING EMOTION TO CHANGE THAT. BUT I MEAN IT. YOU'RE PUTTING THE ONUS BACK ON YOURSELF FARMS. [00:35:03] CENTERS. OKAY I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN TO REMOVE THE WORD REGISTERED, UM THE AND LET IT BE NOTED THAT IN THIS MEETING PROCEEDINGS THAT THE HOMEOWNER KNOWS THAT, UM THAT THEY'RE TAKING THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON THEMSELVES. OKAY MR. CHAIRMAN TO YEAH. IF I MAY, SIR, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE UM. I MEAN, THEY THEY STILL ACTIVE PILOT PERMIT APPLICATION UNDER NUMBER TWO. REGARDLESS ANYTIME YOU DO OFFENSE IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE YET THOUGHT COMMIT UP. UM SO YOU WOULD REMOVE THE WORD REGISTERED CONTRACT AND IN THE FIRST ONE UM. YOU WOULD ALSO REMOVE GROWTH CITY WHERE YOU PROPERTY OWNERS SUBMIT TO SUSAN CORRECT. SO YOU WOULD BE AMENDING SECTION ONE TO ALTER CONDITION WANT TO READ PROPERTY AND HER TO SUBMIT FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. AND THEN TO AMEND SECTION 22, UM, PERMIT APPLICATION IS TO BE SMOOTH AND 30 DAYS OF THIS APPROVAL. I WOULD AND THAT'S AND I DO IT. YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR BRUSH MOVE THAT BROKEN MOVE THOSE MOVE THOSE CORRECTIONS. I JUST ASKED THIS QUESTION. WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO ADD THAT THE DEFENSE REMARKED AS. WITHIN THIS SECOND ONE PERMIT APPLICATIONS BE SUBMITTED WITHIN 30 DAYS. AND. BACK WITH MARK THOSE SPOTS I JUST DON'T WANT TOGETHER TO GET LOST IN IN IN TRANSLATION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS MARKED BEFORE . UH THEN THE NEXT STIPULATION WOULD BE THAT MUST BE RELOCATED WITHIN 60 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE APPROVAL SO AND HONESTLY, MISS HAWK, I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO ADD THE STAFF THING. MR BARROSO CAN DIRECT STAFF TO DO THAT, WITHOUT SPECIFYING IT BY COUNSEL AND MY GUESS IS HE'LL BE WILLING TO DO THAT MAN. RIGHT? YES. I THINK HER POINT IS JUST IT WOULD FORMALIZE THAT FEELING I WOULD SUPPORT WE HAD UNDERSTANDING IT WAS MARK EVEN WOULD MARKET AGAIN MARK PART OF THAT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WITH PAINT. AND THAT THIS WASN'T PUT IN. JUST BECAUSE WE MARKET THERE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED THERE. WE COULD TAKE PICTURES. I MEAN, WORST CASE. I MEAN, IF WE DO NOTHING, AND IT'S WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE. MY ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND YEAH, I'M MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND, UM SECTION ONE TO SAY PROPERTY OWNER TO SUBMIT FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. UM AND RELOCATE THE FENCE SECTION RUNNING PARALLEL TO CARLISLE DRIVE BACK TO MORE THAN 10 FT TO NO MORE THAN 10 FT FROM THE 30 FT BUILDING, SETBACK AND THEN UNDER SECTION TO PERMIT THE PERMITTING PERMIT APPLICANT BY PERMIT PERMIT APPLICATION TO BE SUBMITTED WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE DATE OF THIS APPROVAL. YEAH. OTHER DATA. THIS APPROVAL OKAY? MISS HUCK, ARE YOU? ARE YOU. 20 TO SUBMIT ANYTHING ON THIS. THEIR SECOND TO THIS. YES SECOND NIGHT AND THEN GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT, THEN I JUST WOULD SUGGEST , AND I'M JUST GONNA BACK THIS UP TO THE INTENTION OF THE STAFF AND WHICH I THINK IS CLEAR. WAS UM, SAYING THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO USE A GROVE CITY REGISTERED FANS DIRECTOR. THAT PIECE OF IT IS THE IS THE REGISTERED CONTRACTOR THAT THEY'RE SPEAKING OF IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY BREAKDOWN OF COMMUNICATION, SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE KNOWLEDGEABLE SO IN MY MIND AGAIN, SO THAT FROM OUR SIDE, THE CITY SIDE ALL OF OUR I'S ARE DOTTED AND T CROSSED IN THE WORLD OF COMMUNICATION THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD ONCE AGAIN BE MARKED, AND OBVIOUSLY, WHEN OUR STAFF IS OUT THERE TO MARKET, THEY'LL TAKE PHOTOS WILL HAVE THE DATE STAMP OF IT HAS BEEN MARKED. SO I WOULD SAY I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, COMMENDS THE AMENDMENT AMEND THE AMENDMENT TO READ FOR DISTRICT A SECOND. GOING BACK DOWN HERE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. STIPULATION TO PERMIT APPLICATION IS TO BE SUBMITTED WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE DATE OF THIS APPROVAL. BUILDING AND ZONING. STAFF WHO WOULD BE [00:40:02] THE APPROPRIATE LABEL. WILL MARK SITE UPON RECEIPT OF THIS APPLICATION BUILDING DIVISION BUILDING DIVISION. SHALL SHALL MARK SAY. OKAY, A SECOND. PROMOTION. THE END OF ITS JUST MARKED THE SITE CORRECT UPON RECEIPT OF APPLICATIONS SO THAT THAT TIES INTO THIS NUMBER TWO STIPULATION TO WHEN I READ THIS BACK TO MAKE SURE I HAVE IT. YEAH I HAVE ONE OTHER THING YOU NEED TO INCLUDE. SO I WROTE DOWN AND I'M SURE I HEARD IT WRONG, I WROTE BUILDING DIVISION SHALL MARK THE PROPERTY WITH APPROVED FENCE LOCATION. VERY WELL. HMM. WHAT ELSE? BUT I CAN'T CHANGE MUCH. PROVISION SHOW MARKETSITE UPON RECEIPT OF APPLICATION IS THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, WE COULD SAY MARKEDLY APPROVED VARIANCE, VARIANCE, VARIANCE, VARIANCE LOCATION. SURE. HMM. THANK YOU. ONCE YOU HAVE THAT DOWN. COULD YOU READ IT BACK? YES. SO THIS IS UNDER NUMBER TWO UNDER NUMBER TWO. THE NEW LANGUAGE WOULD BE UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING MORE THAT I DIDN'T CATCH. KERMIT APPLICATION IS TO BE SUBMITTED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS APPROVAL. BUILDING DIVISION SHALL MARKED THE PROPERTY WITH APPROVED. VARIANTS FENCE LOCATION. OKAY OKAY, AND WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT CORRECT. EXPECTED DISCUSSION, MR SMITH? YEAH, I HAVE ONE MORE. MODIFICATION TO THE MODIFICATION JUST TO THE MODIFICATION. THINK ROUND NUMBER SUGGESTION THAT YES , SIR, I HAVE A SUGGESTION UNDER SECTION ONE RIGHT NOW IT STARTS COUNCIL HEREBY REVERSES. HOWEVER COUNCIL HAS NOW MODIFIED THE HECK OUT OF SO I BELIEVE WE SHOULD GO WITH MODIFIED AND CHANGE REVERSES TO MODIFY. YES, SIR. THANK YOU WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, SIR. SO YOU GET TO THAT WHEN WE GO BACK? OKAY? I CAN FIX THAT. OKAY ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE WE HAVE THE FIRST WE HAVE TWO. YOU GOT TO DO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT FIRST UNDER THE AMENDMENT OF THE AMENDMENT, OKAY? UM BIGGER. WE'RE MODIFYING SECTION ONE AMENDMENT, WHEREAS THE STIPULATION NUMBER TWO AND IF THE CLERK WILL READ THAT FOR THE RECORD. SO THAT WE CAN VOTE ON IT TO THE AMENDMENT? YES NUMBER TWO, SO THIS VOTE WILL BE TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING SECTION. I'M SORRY. IN SECTION ONE STIPULATION NUMBER TWO IS HEREBY AMENDED TO READ PERMIT APPLICATION IS TO BE SUBMITTED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS APPROVAL. THE BUILDING DIVISION SHOW MARK THE PROPERTY WITH APPROVED VARIANCE FENCE LOCATION. OKAY, ALRIGHT. WEEK. WE HAVEN'T MOTION AND A SECOND BURKE, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR BARRY? YES. MR HOLT? YES YES, MR SHOT KEY. YES I WENT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MODIFICATION HERE. UM WOULD YOU CLERK WOULD YOU? WOULD YOU READ ? WHAT'S IN NOW? SECTION ONE STIPULATION NUMBER ONE THAT WAS, UH OR MODIFICATION HERE. UM THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO MEN'S SECTION NUMBER ONE TO READ AS FOLLOWS. THIS COUNCIL HEREBY MODIFIES THE DECISION OF THE BORDER ZONING APPEALS AND THE VARIANCE GRANTED FOR YARD AND THE YARD OBSTRUCTIONS AND FENCES. WITH STIPULATIONS FOR FARAH JAMA PROPERTY OWNER LOCATED AT 5588 SCOTCH WOULD DRIVE IS HEREBY AMENDED. TO AMEND STIPULATION NUMBER ONE TO READ PROPERTY OWNER TO SUBMIT FOR A BUILDING PERMIT AND RELOCATE THE FENCE SECTION RUNNING PARALLEL TO CARLISLE DRIVE. BACK TO NO MORE THAN 10 FT FROM THE 30 FT BUILDING, SETBACK LINE AND STIPULATION. [00:45:09] NUMBER TWO SHALL READ. PERMIT APPLICATION IS TO BE SUBMITTED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS APPROVAL. THE BUILDING DIVISION SHOW MARK THE PROPERTY WITH. WITH APPROVED VARIANCE FENCE LOCATION. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. CURTAIN. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR HOLT? YES. MR TOWER? YES SHOCKEY EGRESS. MR BARRY? YES? ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE MODIFIED AND AMENDED. UM JUST DECISION OF THE B. C. A WE GOTTA VOTE. OKAY? NO. READY FOR THE FOR THE WHOLE THING. RESOLUTION AND THERE WE GO. FINALLY GET TO READ THIS RESOLUTIONS HAD ITS READING PUBLIC HERE AND I MOVED THAT BE APPROVED AS AMENDED. SECOND. AND IF I MAY? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE VOTE NOW BECAUSE NOW WE FLIPPED IT ON ITS HEAD. YES NOW YOU ARE MOVING TO MODIFY THE VARIANCE AS GRANTED WITH THE TWO CHANGES TO THE TWO STIPULATIONS. NOW A YES VOTE IS A YES TO APPROVING THE VARIANCE WITH THE FOUR STIPULATIONS, TWO OF WHICH YOU HAVE TWEETED TONIGHT. OKAY SORRY. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. MRS AL. YES MR SHOCKLEY. CIGARETTES YES, MR. BARRY. MR HOLT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT MR PRESIDENT. THAT'S ALL I ASK THIS EVENING, [Ordinance C-17-23 Authorizing the Appropriation of Property and Easements from multiple properties for the public purpose of making, repairing, and improving the Demorest Corridor Improvement Project and declare an emergency. Second reading and public hearing.] WHICH SEEMED TO PICK UP A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, MISS HAPPY FOR THE SERVICE COMMITTEE, PLEASE. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT BARRY UNDER SERVICES EVENING. WE HAVE ORDINANCES 17 23 AND ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE APPROPRIATION OF PROPERTY AND EASEMENTS FROM MULTIPLE PROPERTIES FOR THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF MAKING, REPAIRING AND IMPROVING THE GENEROUS PORTER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND DECLARE AN EMERGENCY . AND MR SMITH, IF I MAY HAVE YOU GIVE US THE OVERVIEW AS WELL. LAZ ELABORATE ON THE NEED FOR AN EMERGENCY. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. UM AS YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE WE COMPLETED DEVASTATES ONE, WHICH GOT US ABOUT FROM GROCERY ROAD ABOUT. PASSES. THE PASSWORD TO BASKET WOULD AND WE FINISHED THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. NOW WE ARE GOING FROM BASS WOOD UP TO SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD. UM THE GOOD NEWS IS WITH THE SECOND PART OF THIS PROJECT. THERE'S ONLY 77 77 PROPERTIES THAT ARE IMPACTED AS YOU KNOW YOU PREVIOUSLY UM, PASSED A RESOLUTION DECLARING YOUR INTENT TO APPROPRIATE PROPERTY THAT'S ALLOWED ME TO SEND OUT GOOD FAITH OFFERS OTHERS TO THOSE SEVEN FOLKS NEGOTIATE WITH THEM TO A PART OF THEIR LAND SO WE COULD DO THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS PROJECT. UM TWO DAYS WE HAVE SETTLED WITH THREE OF THE SEVEN PROPERTY OWNERS AND YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, I THINK I GOT THREE THAT I CAN STILL SETTLE WHAT THIS ORDINANCE ALLOWS ME TO DO IN THE CITY TO DO IT ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD PROJECT. UM HELL OF THE CITY HAS WHAT'S CALLED QUICK. TAKE POWER , SO IF I AM UNABLE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE LAST FOUR HOMEOWNERS, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE FOUR, BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AT LEAST ONE THE CITY CAN THEN GO FILE AND APPROPRIATION ACTION, WHICH IS TAKING IN THE COURT. WE WILL PUT THE MONEY THAT WE HAD THE APPRAISAL DONE THAT ON FIRE WITH THE COURT. THE MOMENT WE DO THAT WE CAN COMMENCE THE WORK ON THE PROJECT. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE SETTLED THE CASE, SO THIS ALLOWS US TO GO TO THAT STEP SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING. WHILE WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH THE OWNERS THAT WE HAVE NOT SETTLED WITH. UM WHY DOES AN EMERGENCY? IT'S ALL TIMING WITH THIS PROJECT. UM YOU KNOW, WE ARE. WE HAVE A SHORT CONSTRUCTION WINDOW HERE. WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN BIDS ON THIS. A WARNING AWARDED. EXCUSE ME. WE'VE ALREADY AWARDED THE BIT ON THIS SO THE EMERGENCY IS PURELY A TIMING ISSUE. UM SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR BUSY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR SMITH AND JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, UM THE EMERGENCY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS WAVING THE WAITING PERIOD, WHICH IS ORDINARILY WHEN AN ORDINANCE HAS PASSED. THERE'S 30 DAY WINDOW UNTIL IT GOES INTO EFFECT. UM, IN THIS CASE, WE'RE WAVING THAT WAITING PERIOD. THIS HAS HAD A FIRST READING. THIS IS THE SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? ANY PUBLIC SIGN UPS THINK SO. ALRIGHT I THINK THAT IS ALL THEN [00:50:04] . AND SO THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND I MOVE THAT THE RULES OF COUNCIL BASIS SPEND IT AND THE WAITING PERIOD WAIVED. SECOND. MR SHOPKEEPER, CHRIS? VERY YES. YES YES. AND THEN FINALLY I MOVE THAT THIS ORDINANCE BE APPROVED AS AN EMERGENCY MEASURE. 2ND 2ND 2ND 2ND. MR SEGRIST? YES YES, YES, YES, YES. RIGHT AND THAT IS ALL [Ordinance C-18-23 Repeal and Replace Section 331.44 of the Codified Ordinances of Grove City titled Texting White Driving Prohibited and declare an emergency. ] I HAVE UNDER SERVICE THIS EVENING. RIGHT LAST BUT NOT LEAST CHAIRMAN. SECRETS FOR SAFETY COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. UM . YES. ORDINANCES CD 18 23 REPEAL AND REPLACE THE SECTION 311.44 BECAUSE TITLED TEXTING WHILE DRIVING PROHIBITED. FOUR MINUTES HAS HAD ITS FIRST READING, AND I MOVED THAT THE RULES OF COUNCIL BE SUSPENDED IN THE WAITING PERIOD WAIVED IT COULD BE THAT SECOND. MR BARRY? YES. IS YOUR WHOLE? YES THE SHOT KEY CIGARETTES? YES. ESPECIALLY IF I MAY JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS BILL. MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED A NEW LAW REGARDING TEXTING WHILE DRIVING SENATE BILL 2 88. UM NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE STATE CHANGES ITS LAWS WHEN OUR CODE CAUGHT A FIRES UPDATE OUR ORDINANCES. EVERY YEAR, WE WILL GRAB THE CHANGES THAT HAPPENED AT THE STATE AND PUT THEM IN OUR COAT. THE REALITY IS THE TIMING ON THIS BILL GOT A LITTLE BIT WEIRD BECAUSE IT WASN'T SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR UNTIL JANUARY. 3RD AFTER THE YEARLY UPDATE OF THE CODE, THEY HAVE YOUR ATTENTION, PLEASE THE LIBRARY BECAUSE THE SAME TIME MINUTES THIS IS THE FINAL THOUGHT VERY MATERIAL OR TO PAY FINES. CHECK OUT ALL MATERIALS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. UM BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR IN ORDER FOR US TO GET THIS AND OUR CODE. WE NEED TO PASS IT LOCALLY OR ELSE WE'D HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT CODIFICATION TO HAPPEN NEAR THE END OF THE YEAR. UM, I WILL TELL YOU THIS ABOUT THE TEXTING WHILE DRIVING PROHIBITION. IT WENT INTO EFFECT IN THE STATE ON 44. THEREFORE THE EMERGENCY LANGUAGES SO WE CAN GET IT OUR BOOKS QUICKER SO THAT OUR ORDINANCES WILL NOW MERE STATE LAW. UM THE ONE THING ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF. THERE IS A SIX MONTH GRACE PERIOD WHERE THE POLICE ARE ONLY ABLE TO ISSUE WARNINGS ON THIS. UM AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I THINK THAT IN THOSE SIX MONTHS THIS ORDINANCE IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME INCONSISTENCIES. I MEAN, SENATE BILL 2 88 500 PAGES LONG AND EVERYONE THINKS OF IT AS THE TEXTING WHILE DRIVING BILL, BUT THAT WAS A SMALL PORTION OF IT. AND THERE'S A FEW LITTLE THINGS THAT MR BARROSO HAS BEEN VERY NICE TO POINT OUT SEVERAL THINGS ABOUT THAT HE FINDS INCONSISTENT AND HE'S RIGHT, AS ALWAYS, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THIS AS AN EMERGENCY SO WE CAN GET ON THE BOOKS KNOWING THAT FOR THE NEXT 5.5 MONTHS. WE'RE ONLY GOING TO USE IT AS A WARNING TOOL AND KNOWING THAT IT MAY GET CLEANED UP HERE IN THE FUTURE, IN TERMS OF SOME OF CLARIFYING WHAT YOU CAN OR CAN'T DO WHILE YOU'RE BEHIND THE WHEEL OF THE VEHICLE. BUT YOU SHOULD NEVER TEXT WHILE DR THANK YOU IS THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT OR COUNSEL HAVE ANY CONDOMS? UH UM, I MOVED IT. THIS ORDINANCE BE APPROVED AS AN EMERGENCY MEASURE. SECOND. MR WHOLE, YES. SHOCKING CIGARETTES . YES YES. OH SIX. JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY BE INTERESTED. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE TEXTING WHILE DRIVING IS ONCE IT DOES GO INTO EFFECT. IT HAS A SLIDING SCALE OF PENALTIES. SO THE MORE TIMES YOU GET CAUGHT TEXTING, THE WORSE IT GETS FOR YOU. UM IT STARTS AS 150 BUCKS AND TWO POINTS. SECOND OFFENSE, 250 BUCKS THREE POINTS AND THEN WE GET TO FOUR POINTS. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CODE. IF THEY DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE SCALES , WHERE THE POINTS INCREASE THAT WAY. MOST OTHER OFFENSES JUST HAVE A NUMBER OF POINTS. YOU GET TO FIRST SPEED. YOU GET SIX FOR A DRUNK DRIVING HERE. IT'S A SLIDING SCALE, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY TIMES YOU DECIDED TO DO THIS WITHIN A TWO YEAR PERIOD. SO IT IS KIND OF INTERESTING. RIGHT SO THIS IS THE POINT IN TIME AND ARE IN A MEETING WHERE [Call for New Business] WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION SO ANYBODY WE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP [00:55:03] CHRIS MOORE. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE. AND PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IF YOU WOULD PLEASE MY NAME IS CHRIS MOORE. I LOVE IT. 33 10, GATEWAY LAKES AND GROWTH CITY. AND I'M JUST HERE TO, UM WITH THE RENOVATION OF THE OTHER BUILDING, AND THIS IS A TRANSITION PERIOD. I JUST WANTED TO PRAY FOR OHIO FOR GROUPS CITY , SOUTHWEST CITY SCHOOLS FOR OUR CHURCHES, OUR FAMILIES AND ALL THAT GROWTH. CITY BOARD MEMBERS HERE. AND NUMBER 6 24 TO 26 SAYS THE LORD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU LET A SPACE JUNK UPON YOU. THANK YOU. BE GRACIOUS TO YOU AND GIVE YOU THE PIECE. A PIECE TO EACH OF YOU MAY KNOW STRIFE BEING THESE MEETINGS AND MADE THE DECISION BEING MADE BE CONSIDERED AND BE MADE RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE VOTING FOR THE NEXT TWO BOARD MEMBERS HERE AND WITH THE RENOVATIONS. THERE'S THAT NEW WARD BECAUSE GROWTH SAID HE IS GROWING SO MAY RIGHTEOUS MEN AND WOMEN BE CHOSEN TO BE THE BEST INTERESTS FOR OUR TOWN. AS IN THE BIBLE OF FUSED ISCARIOT. WHEN HE DIED. THERE'S A CYCLES ALWAYS PRAYED. SO THEY YOU SEEK THE LORD WHO'S GOING TO REPLACE HIM. MAY EACH OF YOU SEEK THE COUNSEL OF THE LORD AND NOT ALWAYS A MAN BECAUSE GOD'S PLANS ARE HIGHER AND PROVIDES THE WISDOM AND STRATEGIES WHICH IS THE BEST. MAY THE LORD'S HANDY UPON EACH OF YOU AND KEEP YOU FROM EVIL AND ANY WRONG DECISIONS. SO YOU WON'T AGREE. THE HOLY SPIRIT. MAY GOD HEAR YOUR PRAYER REQUEST AND ANSWER THEM QUICKLY AND GIVE YOU THE PIECE THAT YOU NEED. AND LASTLY, IN SUMS. 1 45 18. THE LORD IS NEAR TO ALL HE'LL CALL UPON HIM IN TRUTH. THAT'S BLESSINGS TO ALL OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES AS THE BOURNE THANK YOU. NEXT. WE HAVE SIGNED UP, GREG. UH AM I SAYING THIS? THERE WE GO. SORRY, IF YOU ALRIGHT. TORTURE THE LAST NAME MILLER MILLER GOT IT. EVERY THIRD LETTER IS INDEED YOU NEED TO SPELL IT. ACTUALLY YOU'RE WRONG . I KNOW. SO I LEARNED IT THAT IT'S PRETTY GOOD IN. SO GREG. GOTTA MILLER 47 05 WRENCH ROAD. I JUST WANT TO TALK JUST WITH THREE MINUTES HERE TONIGHT ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN WRENCH ROAD. SO WE HAD A MEETING TONIGHT WITH GLENN DUGGAR WITH SMITH AND HAIL THE DEVELOPING ATTORNEY INVOLVED IN THE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY IN THE GROVE CITY. AND I GUESS JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REALLY? THAT COME TO MIND WHEN THE ATTORNEY MET WITH GROUPS CITY HE DIDN'T NAME WHO EXACTLY ON THE COUNCIL. BUT THE INITIAL REACTION WAS THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE USED FOR HOMES AND RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, BUT IT WOULD BE USED FOR SOME OTHER PURPOSE. SO THE IT WAS MADE VERY CLEAR THE ATTORNEY THAT THAT WAS THE DIRECTION IT WAS GOING TO GO. SO CURIOUS ON WHY THAT IS, IF ANYBODY HAS THAT ANSWER HERE TONIGHT. I'VE GOT IT ON A RECORDING. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THE RECORDING LATER, I DO HAVE IT ALL THE WHOLE CONVERSATION RECORDED IF I MAY, SIR, AND I'M NOT SURE I 100% UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. BUT SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ANNEXED TO THE CITY. IT WILL COME INTO WHATEVER ZONING IS MOST AKIN TO WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS IN THE TOWNSHIP. FROM THAT POINT ON THIS COUNCIL WOULD THEN HAVE TO TAKE THE STEP TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW SOMETHING OTHER THAN BASICALLY WHAT'S THERE NOW, UM, WHICH THEY COULD DO IT THROUGH THE ANNEXATION PROCESS, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE DOING AN IN ARIZONA UPON ANNEXATION OR, FRANKLY, ANY POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE. SOMEONE CAN ASK COUNCIL TO REZONE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT, BUT THEY CAN ASK YEAH, WELL, NO, YOU'RE SO YEAH, I GOT SO EARLIER LAST WEEK WE TALKED WITH KIM SHIELDS AND WE'RE GONNA IS, SHE MENTIONED IT'S GOING TO HAVE A SITE SPECIFIC P U D BECAUSE WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD A DATA CENTER, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST YET AND GROWTH CITY AND BECAUSE OF THE CONFLICT WHERE THAT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE BUILDING A COMMERCIAL SIZED BUILDING. WE NEED TO DEVELOP A SITE SPECIFIC PERIOD E THAT MADE SENSE TO ME. MY SECOND QUESTION IS DO WE? AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE ANY INFLUENCE ON WHAT GETS BUILT THERE? WELL, THE ANSWER IS YES. OKAY IT WILL BE, BUT WE'LL HAVE OPEN MEETINGS ON IT. OKAY I DON'T THINK COUNCIL HAS NOT SEEN ANYTHING. THAT'S BEEN THAT'S BEEN PUT BEFORE US YET. SO YEAH . I MEAN, A LOT OF THIS IS ALL TALK UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE SOMETHING. YOU KNOW THAT'S SITTING IN FRONT OF US. SO UM, ABSOLUTELY DON'T. THEY'LL BE TWO HEARINGS AND IF NOT MORE AND SO ABSOLUTELY OKAY, BECAUSE I MEAN THOSE OF US THAT LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTRY WERE NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS. SO IS THERE A WAY TO KIND OF GET AN OUTLINE OF THE OVERALL HOW THIS IS ALL GONNA GO CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. SO WHAT HAPPENED, SIR? WHEN THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO BE ANNEXED HAS TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL HAS TWO PREVIOUS SERVICES RESOLUTIONS GO TO THE COUNTY. COUNTY HAS TO APPROVE IT , AND FRANKLY, THE COUNTY HAS TO APPROVE IT. UNLESS THE [01:00:02] APPLICATION IS SCREWED UP. THEY DON'T CHOICE. IT COMES BACK TO US. OUR COUNCIL WILL THEN ACCEPT THE LAND INTO THE CITY. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE OVERSEE DEVELOPMENT OF LAND AND CONTROL HOW IT WILL BE USED TO OUR ZONING PROCESS. SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO FILE AN APPLICATION TO REZONE IT. IN THIS CASE. I THINK TAMMY SAID IT MAYBE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR SOME TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL. SO WHAT'LL HAPPEN IS THEY'LL FILE AN APPLICATION FOR THAT WILL BE HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THERE IS ONE PUBLIC MEETING TO HEAR IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL IT WILL BE SENT ON TO COUNSEL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO HEARINGS ON IT AND THE SECOND ONE THE ALLOW TESTIMONY. UM SO THERE WILL BE AT LEAST THREE BITES AT THE APPLE AND THAT PROCESS TO DISCUSS THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY AND HOW IT WILL BE USED. OKAY? DONE IT. AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IF YOU JUST, UM IF YOU WANT TO SEE TAMMY AFTER I WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU. TAMMY I HAD ONE QUESTION ONE QUICK QUESTION AS I'M WALKING OUT HERE, BUT, UM THE GROUP CITY 2050 PLAYING IN THAT MISSIONS, THE FLEX USE EMPLOYMENT CENTER, WHICH I THINK IS HOW THAT'S KIND OF SHADED TODAY. WE TALKED LAST MEETING. IT'S LIKE THAT'S A PROPOSAL. IT MENTIONS THE BUILDINGS ARE 1 TO 2 STORIES, MOSTLY ONE STORY OF PRENTICE'S. HOW MANY FEET TALLER, REDEFINING ONE STORY. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK IT WAS DEFINED IN THE 2050 PLAN IN TERMS OF OUR OVERALL ZONING, THOUGH, WITHIN OUR CODE JUST TO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ZONING. OUR MAXIMUM IS 35 FT. SO IF YOU TAKE HALF OF THAT, YOU COULD SAY 17.5. THE MAXIMUM FOR ONE STORY WOULD BE 17 IN OUR TRADITIONAL ZONING CODE. YES, FOR ALL, UH, FOR OZONE CLASSIFICATIONS, WHICH WE ALREADY DISCUSSED WILL DEVELOP A NEW ONE FOR THIS SITE. SO I THINK THE TAX THAT COULD BE IT COULD BE GREATER. YES THAT'S CORRECT OR SMALLER BECAUSE NOT DEVELOPED YET. THAT'S CORRECT. IT THAT'S CORRECT. WONDERFUL. [Call for Dept. Reports & Closing Comments] THANK YOU GUYS. THANKS. UM SO NO, WE ALSO HAVE, UH DID YOU DID THE SAFETY DIRECTOR WANT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW, WHENEVER YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT NOW, SINCE YOU'VE GOT. PRESIDENT BARRY MEMBERS OF ACCOUNTS FOR MAYOR STAGE HAS ASKED ME TO INFORM YOU THAT HE HAS STARTING TO PROCLAMATIONS FOR MILLION THIS YEAR. THE FIRST ONE IS TO MAKE MAY OF 2023 MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH, RECOGNIZING THAT ONE IN EVERY FIVE AMERICANS LIVE WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS. AND IT'S NEARLY FIVE PEOPLE EVERY DAY IN OHIO COMMIT SUICIDE AND THEN SUICIDE IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR OUR YOUTH, AND THEN THE DECLARATION. HE WANTS TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES AND FIGHTS. STIGMA PROVIDES SUPPORT , EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND ADVOCATE FOR EQUITABLE ACCESS TO CARE. THE SECOND PROCLAMATION. CALLS FOR RECOGNITION OF MAY OF 2023 IS BUILDING SAFETY MARTIN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL, AND THIS YEAR STEAM IS IT STARTS WITH YOU ENCOURAGING US ALL TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT BUILDING SAFETY ON A PERSONAL, LOCAL AND GLOBAL SCALE, AND THE PROCLAMATION ENCOURAGES OUR CITIZENS TO JOIN US AS WE PARTICIPATE IN BUILDING SAFETY MONTH ACTIVITIES. THANK YOU, SIR. ALSO TONIGHT IN THE AUDIENCE. WE HAVE SOME SCOUTS. SO IF THIS IS YOUR THIS IS YOUR CHANCE HERE. UM IF YOU GO UP TO THE PODIUM AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON, UM EACH OF YOU AND GIVE US HERE, UM, YOUR NAME'S NOT YOUR ADDRESS, BUT JUST YOUR AIM, SO SOMEBODY WANTS TO ADD UP TO THE FRONT. JUST TELL US WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON. UM HELLO. I AM HENRY. SEE YOGA? UM I'M CURRENTLY A STAR RANK. UM . CURRENTLY FOR, UH OR I'M WORKING ON CITIZENSHIP AND COMMUNITY MERIT MATCH. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I'M HERE FOR, UM, BECAUSE UM CAN THINK OF THE REQUIREMENTS SPECIFICALLY, BUT ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS ATTENDING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UH, UM. DISCUSSED WITH YOUR COUNSELOR? WHAT UH, WENT ON. UH, WELL, THE THINGS AH, BUT YOU LEARNED WHAT AN AMENDMENT TO AN AMENDMENT IS TONIGHT? YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. WHO'S NEXT? AHEAD. THE NEW STONE SAVAGE. I AM A TENDERFOOT SCOUT. I AM. IT'S KIND OF LIKE NOT DIRECTLY IN SCOUTS. WOULD I AM WORKING ON KIND OF THAT ROAD [01:05:01] CAN NOWHERE OFF OF HALTON, WAS IT? IS WHATEVER ONE CALLS IT BECAUSE NOBODY USES IT. I'M TRYING TO LIKE PUSH FOR THAT AREA TO BECOME A PERK BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERY WELL SUITED FOR MOST THINGS, SEEING AS IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF NATURAL WATER HOLDING. VERY NICE. VERY GOOD FOR BUILDING. I ACTUALLY CHECKED IT OUT YESTERDAY. ALRIGHT, NICE. GO AHEAD. AND TELL US YOUR NAME. AND WHAT AND WHAT BADGE YOU'RE WORKING ON. OR NOT. IT WILL NOT. PAPER JUST TELL US YOUR NAME AND WHAT BAD YOU'RE WORKING ON. I DIDN'T AS WELL AND I'M I'M A SCOUT AND TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS TENDER FLOOD. SOON. DON'T. YEAH THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AWESOME. MY NAME IS CALVIN CLASS B. I'M FINE TO WORK TOWARD MY LIFE MERIT BADGE AND, UM. ONE UM, UM, LIKE MUCH LIKE HENRY. I DO. I STILL DO HAVE GRANDPA REQUIREMENTS SLEPT IN MY CITIZENSHIP AND COMMUNICATION. EVERYBODY IS I HAVEN'T QUITE LOOKED AT THEM YET. LOADS OF THEM LIKE FULLY UP, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS STILL SOME CITY COUNCILORS. SOMEBODY START TO DO SO, YEAH, I COULD TALK ABOUT THIS. NOW THAT MEANS AROUND HERE. GREAT. SO THE REASON I ASKED YOU GUYS TO COME UP. YOU GUYS ARE IF YOU PUT YOUR FOOT FORWARD TO DISCOUNTING RIGHT AND PART OF THAT IS BEING A LEADER AND PART OF THAT IS HAVING THE COURAGE TO STEP UP THERE AND TALK TO US. SO KUDOS STUDIO BECAUSE THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW YOUR THOSE THAT ARE IN THE SAME GRADE THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING THIS AND THIS IS THIS IS A BIG STEP TO ADDRESS. I MEAN, NOT ONLY YOU'RE ADDRESSING US, BUT YOU'RE ADDRESSING. YOU'RE BEING RECORDED RIGHT NOW. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE ADDRESSING EVERYBODY SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING . KEEP AT IT. IT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK. I KNOW IT IS. I WAS A SCOUT AND, UM, JUST THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO COME IN TODAY AND GET UP AND SAY SOMETHING SO VERY GOOD. SO WE WILL GO TO, UM, MR BOZO FOR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION . ADDITIONAL. THANK YOU, MR SMITH. I THINK I'VE SAID ENOUGH TONIGHT, SIR. AH MISS KELLY. ANY COMMENTS FOR THE COUNCIL? YOUR CHAMBER IS GUTTED AND CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY AND, UH, SO FAR SO GOOD, SO AND THEN, OF COURSE, IN OUR NORMAL SETTING , THE STAFF IS USUALLY IN FRONT OF US, AND I'M SURE THEY THINK THAT I'VE MISSED HIM. BUT I HAVEN'T SO CINDY, THE REST OF STAFF HAVE ANY ANY COMMENTS ANY UPDATES ANYTHING? AND MR TURNER HAS GIVEN US ANOTHER ONE OF HIS WONDERFUL REPORTS, FINANCE REPORTS. HE ALWAYS WAVES. HE NEVER SAYS THAT SCENE OF YOU COULD LEARN FROM THESE GENTLEMEN UP HERE, BUT, UM. WITH THAT WE WILL GO INTO CLOSING COMMENTS. SO MR SECRETS. MR BOLTON. NOTHING FURTHER FOR ME. THANKS OUT. YOU KNOW, NOT PASSING IT UP . UM HEY, EVEN THOUGH TODAY HAS JUST BEEN DREADFUL. AS FAR AS THE WEATHER GOES, IT IS MAY 1ST MAY DAY AND I WAS LOADING MY MAY CALENDAR, MAKING SURE THAT I HAD EVERYTHING ON MY CALENDAR THAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY. UH, FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, AND THERE IS A LOT GOING ON. AND SO I WANTED TO JUST USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND EVERYONE FOLLOW ALL THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS. GO TO THE HOMEPAGE. GROVE CITY, OHIO DOT GOV. UM, ALL THE EVENTS ARE THERE ON THE CALENDAR, AND THE SUMMER MONTHS ARE THE TIME THAT YOU WANT TO STAY TUNED INTO ALL THOSE, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE IF YOU STAY ON THE WEEKENDS AND GROW CITY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO, THEN YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. THAT'S ALL. STAY WARM, MR. SHOCKING THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE AND THAT'S PARTICULARLY AS A FATHER OF AN EQUAL SCOPE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS SCOUTING IS AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL NOT ONLY PARTICIPATE IN DOING YOUR MERIT BADGE CONTROL, SO PARTICIPATE IN YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR SCOUTING AS FAR AS BEING EVEN, UM, YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS YOU CAN BE IN LEADERSHIP IN SCOUTING. THAT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO HELP YOU. LATER IN LIFE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WITH SELF CONFIDENCE AND THE ABILITY TO MANAGE AND WORK WITH PEOPLE AND HERE ARE DIVERSE. GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DIFFERENT OPINIONS, AND SOMEDAY YOU MIGHT BE ON CITY COUNCIL. WHO KNOWS? THANK YOU. AND ALSO THE OTHER PART ABOUT BEING A LEADER IS REALIZING WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. SO I ALWAYS LOOK OVER HERE AT TAMMY AND SHE WAS MONT REMINDING ME THAT WE HAVE A PRIMARY ELECTION TOMORROW, AND I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE THING ON [01:10:05] OUR THERE'S TWO THINGS ON OUR BALLOT. I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THEY ARE. I GOTTA GO. I'LL READ THEM TONIGHT AFTER SALE PERMITS SUNDAY SALES INTO 36. SO UM, THERE YOU GO. SO THERE'S THERE IS A PRIMARY ELECTION TOMORROW. UM OTHER THAN THAT, TAMMY WHAT YOU USUALLY HAVE SKIPPED THE SCREEN. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE DATE OF OUR NEXT MEETING? 15. THERE YOU GO. IT'S THE 15TH AND THIS ROOM, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING AND WE * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.