[Call to Order: Pres. Berry / Roll Call]
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READY OKAY, GOOD EVENING. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS . SPECIAL MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER. TAKE THE ROLE. MR SHOCKEY. PRESIDENT, MR CIGARETTES, MR. BARRY MR. HOLT? YEAH. HOW SINCE OUR. PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL IS NOT PRESENT AT THE THIS TIME I HAVE BEEN TOLD IS ON ITS WAY. BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO ON A TEMPORARY CHAIR ? RICE THE COMMITTEE FOR BUILDING AND ZONING. IT'S A SPECIAL MEETING YOU COUNSEL THE WHOLE TO REVIEW THE ZONING CODE, BUT I CAN TURN IT RIGHT OVER TO YOU. AND WE CAN SKIP THE FORMALITIES IF YOU LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING ALL THIS WITH SOMETHING, OKAY? NOT YET UNTIL IT TURNS ON HIS WAY. AND THEN CHRIS CHRISTINE WAS SO. UM THIS EVENING, WE'RE GONNA BE COVERING
[Review of Proposed New Zoning Code]
AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM DESTRUCTION WITH TILED RECOVERING PERSON THIS TONIGHT, CHAPTER ONE AND HOPEFULLY TRAP CHAMPION TO, UM, TURN IT OVER TO COME BARRAGE TO GO THROUGH. THIS IS A BIG UNDERTAKING, FOLKS. AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE IN THE TABLE WITH PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. THIS IS ALMOST THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING. TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INPUT IT WORK APPROPRIATE PROBLEM. A LOT OF PEOPLE, PROBABLY PARTICULARLY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ALL THE WAY ANOTHER PARTS OF THE STAFF LEGAL, ADMINISTRATIVE AND BUILDING. UM AND THAT, SO IT'S UH HUGE DOCUMENTS. SO HOW WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND SAY COUPLE OF REMARKS APPRECIATE EVERYONE THINKING TIME COME OUT AND REALLY GOOD THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT. WHAT'S THAT CAN DASH AND TERRY BARMAN OFFICES A LOT OF WORK IN THIS DOCUMENT. SO REALLY, A LOT OF WORK THAT YOU SEE ON THIS DOCUMENT WAS A REFLECTION OF THEIR TIME AND ENERGY, SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT THEIR WORK ON THE STOCK HUMINT. AND I HOPE EVERYONE KEEPS IN MIND THAT THIS THIS DOCUMENT REALLY STEMS FROM GROCERY 2050. WE SPENT TWO YEARS BACK IN 2018 2016 2018. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE HER VISION ATTEMPT FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS GONNA CODE IS REALLY WANTED PRIMARILY PRIMARY IMPLEMENTING FACTORS CAN ATTAIN THAT VISION THAT WAS SAID BY THEM 2050 EFFORT. UM SORRY, I GUESS WITH THAT ULTRA EVERY CAMPUS SHE SHE KNOWS THIS FULL INSIDE OUT.DOCTORS DASH, SO PROBABLY STARTED OUT SELECT THE SYNCOPE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS FOR COMING TONIGHT AND LISTENING TO THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO THEM.
APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT. THANKS VERY WELL. I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT PILES HAVE THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO CONFERENCES HAVE THIS IMPORTANT DISCUSSION TONIGHT MENTIONED IT VERY MUCH IS AN EXTENSION OF 2015 AND ALL THE WORK THAT WE PUT INTO IT UNIVERSITY 2050 KIND OF FRAMEWORK, AND THIS IS REALLY HOW WE INSTILL THE POLICY TO GET ALL THE PATTERNS TO REFLECT, RIGHT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY IS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS KIND OF RECOGNIZED THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE HERE. TO REALLY RECOGNIZE THE SHIP IN GENERATION HOMES, PATTERNS THAT WE'RE SEEING VERY MUCH STANDING FOR 2050 THE SHIFTING DEMOGRAPHICS, THE SHIFT IN MARKET DEMAND. UM THIS CODE REALLY NEEDS TO REFLECT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF TIMES THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION TODAY AND TOMORROW I'M GONNA BE A CALL OUT SOME OF THESE REGIONAL FRIENDS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COMFORT BUCKLE OF REFLECTING THAT IN OUR CODES AND POLICIES. SO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF HOW THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE ORGANIZED. I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME RECAPPING WHAT WE DISCUSSED TWO YEARS AGO . IF YOU RECALL WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING 21 TO DISCUSS HIS ONLY KOBE, RIGHT, SO TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. THESE CODES ORGANIZED HOW WE INTEND TO GO TO THE PUBLIC WHEN THE DOCUMENT STUDY. UM AND THEN, THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE ACTUAL NITTY GRITTY OF THE CONTENT. I DON'T EXPECT EVERYONE TO HAVE READ EVERY SINGLE WORD. IT'S A VERY THICK DOCUMENT. SO WHAT I INTEND TO DO IS JUST TALK ABOUT THE OVERARCHING POOLS FOR EACH OF THE TITLES AND THEN REALLY TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOW THE NEWS HOLD IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR
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CURRENT STANDARDS THAT ARE TRYING TO BUT YOU ALSO GO OVER UPDATES THAT WE'VE MADE SINCE WE MET LAST WEEK, 2021 AND THEN SOME OF THOSE ITEMS, THE DISCUSSION ITEMS, SO MAYBE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW NEED TO BE CHANGED OR THAT WE THINK COULD BE CHANGED. BUT WE'RE KIND OF AT A POINT WHERE WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL TO SEE WHETHER COMFORT LEVEL IS IT'S A BIG PICTURE. WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING SINCE 2021? WE FINALIZED THE DRAFT CONTENT IF YOU'LL RECALL. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE TALKED PRIMARILY ABOUT TITLES ONE AND TWO, BECAUSE THREE AND FOUR WEREN'T QUITE READY TO GET SO WE FINALIZED THREE AND FOUR.WE ALSO FINALIZED THE TOWN CENTER DISTRICT STANDARDS WHICH LIE ENTITLED TO WE TOOK A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING THROUGH A LENS OF KORLA REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT TRENDS, BATTERIES.
WE ALSO MET WITH THE D I A TO DISCUSS THIS DRAFT CODE TO GET THEIR INPUT, AND WE ALSO HAD A PRESENTATION WITH THE DIVERSITY TASK FORCE. TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND A LOT OF THAT RELATED TO HOUSING DURING INVESTIGATION AND DISCUSSION. SO WHY ARE WE WRITE THE CODE? THIS SLIDE SHOULD LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED IN 21 THE ONLY CHANGES TO THE NUMBER OF YEARS AGO SINCE CODE WAS INITIALLY ADOPTED, USED TO SAY NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO, AND NOW IT'S ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO. THIS HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR SO LONG. SO BASICALLY, THERE'S WE.
THE CODE THAT WE HAVE TODAY IS NOT THE SAME. BUT IT WAS ADOPTED 50 YEARS AGO. OBVIOUSLY WE'VE MADE AMENDMENTS OVER TIME, BUT ALL OF THOSE AMENDMENTS HAVE RESULTED IN A BIT OF A DESTROYING CODE, REALLY MAKING ANY HOLISTIC CHANGES REQUIRES WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. A COMPLETE REPEAL REPLACE OTHER GOALS WHO WANT TO IMPROVE THESE ABILITY. FEW MINUTES, SELF MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY REMAINS COMPETITIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE. THIS IS ALSO A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY IMPLEMENT DRUG CITY 2050 AS WELL AS OTHER PLANS THAT WE'VE ADOPTED. THIS IS GETTING ABILITY, PLANS TOWN CENTER FRAMEWORK. THERE'S A GREEN BOX ON THE SLIDE. YOU'LL SEE THOSE THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION WHEN SOME OF THE CONTENT ON THE SLIDE DIRECTLY RELATES TO AN ACTION ITEM OF OBJECTIVE AND ACTION IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN HIGHLIGHTED IT ON THE SLIDE JUST SO EVERYONE CAN SEE BUT THE GOAL OF THIS ZONING COBRA RIGHT IS TO ADDRESS WHAT WE USE STARTED 50. SO THIS IS THE OVERVIEW WHAT THE FOUR DIFFERENT TITLES OR FOUR WITHIN THE DOCUMENT. PUBLIC INPUT. UM WE WENT OVER THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT JUST TO REITERATE CODE REWRITE WILL INVOLVE A COMPREHENSIVE RESULTING OF THE CITY. SO OBVIOUSLY LOOKING FOR THAT'S GOING TO BE UM WE'LL HAVE A SERIES OF PUBLIC MEETINGS AND RECORD WEB PAGE EMAILS AND SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. EXCUSE ME. WE ANTICIPATE ESSENTIALLY TWO ROUNDS OF PUBLIC INPUT. THE FIRST WOULD BE JUST BACKGROUND. WHY WE'RE DOING THIS UPDATED WHAT TO EXPECT AND THEN A LINK.
YOU WANT TO LOOK BEST RESOURCES WILL MOST LIKELY BE THIS IN COMPARISON WITH THAT. HOLD IT UP ANYMORE THROUGH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A TOOL WHERE YOU CAN CLICK ON ANY PARCEL OF THE CITY. WHAT YOUR CURRENT ZONING IS WHAT IT WILL BE SHOWN TO THE NEW CODE AND THEN HELD THE POLICIES DIFFER SO DOWN TO SETBACKS USES WHAT WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN EXAMINED AND PERSONAL, MY PERSONAL LEVEL TO HELP THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THAT AND YOU SHOULD. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS. THE SAME REGULATIONS ESSENTIALLY, UM UNDER THE NEW CODE. SO BEFORE WE DIVE INTO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC TITLES TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STEP BACK AND ADDRESS THAT FIRST . WHY WE'RE REWRITING THE CODE. SO WE MENTIONED THAT THE INITIAL CODE IS ADOPTED ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO, RIGHT? UM I WENT BACK AND RESEARCHED LEGISLATION ON OUR WEBSITE TO SEE HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE AMENDED CODE SINCE IT WAS ADOPTED IN 1975. UM AND I THINK THAT CHART SHOULD STEP BACK. THAT CHART SHOWS AMENDMENTS TO 11 35 10 AND 11 35 12, WHICH IS OUR NONRESIDENTIAL STANDARDS IN OUR RESIDENTIAL STATEMENT, SO PRIMARILY THE SECTIONS THAT DICTATE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT WE SEE RIGHT SO YOU CAN TELL WE AMENDED IT A LOT RIGHT AFTER IT WAS ADOPTED, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY TO BE EXPECTED WITH THIS DRAFT AS WELL . YES WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT PERFECT. RIGHT UNDER THE DATE. THERE'S GONNA BE SOME AMENDMENTS AS WE STARTED BUYING IT TO REAL WORLD SITUATIONS. PRETTY CONSISTENT AND AMENDING CODE THOSE SHOWN IN FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS. BUT THEN WE STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF CHINESE. UM THERE'S SORT OF A CORRELATION BETWEEN THE INCREASE IN P U. D S AROUND THE MID TO LATE NINETIES.
SO I THINK THAT SHOWS THAT THAT WAS ABOUT A GENERATION OF DEVELOPMENT THERE RIGHT. THE
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CURRENT CODE AND THOSE STANDARDS ADOPTED EVEN AFTER BEING PIECEMEAL, AMENDED FOR 25 YEARS.DIDN'T WORK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT WE WANTED, SO WE SORT OF STARTED SHIFTING TO DOING EVERYTHING THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS. REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS IN THE MID TO LATE NINETIES. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. RIGHT THERE WAS NO PARKWAY CENTER, OKAY, PARKWAY WAS JUST THROUGH INDIAN TRAILS CROSSING MALE PINNACLE. UM SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF UBER CROSSING PART BETTER GIRL WAS STILL BEING DEVELOPED. SO CLEARLY THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT AND THAT'S WHAT THAT THE SENSE OF THE BOTTOM IS. PLENARY ITERATING. THE DEGREE RIGHT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE GENERATIONAL SHIFT INTO ALL THE PATTERNS AND SHOW THAT WE'RE WILLING TO SUPPORT. THE WORK STARTED REGIONALLY THROUGH MORE THAN SEXUALLY 50 THE REGIONAL HOUSING STUDIES, BUT ALSO MANY OTHER CENTRAL OHIO COMMUNITIES ARE GOING THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW REWRITING ZONING CODE DIFFERENT POLICIES. SOME AND THEN HOPEFULLY WHAT WE STARTED WITH 2015, RIGHT. THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE WE DID. SO LOOKING AGAIN.
REGIONAL NEED, UM THE SPECIAL LOT ON THE SLIDES. OH WALK EVERYBODY THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT. I GUESS BEFORE I DO THAT, I APOLOGIZE. INTERESTINGS IF THERE'S ANY, THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE LAKE, PLEASE FEEL GREAT. INTERRUPT AS QUESTIONS SO THIS SLIDE IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED TOWARDS HOUSING, REGIONALLY AND LOCALLY , UM, THE TWO ITEMS ON THE BRAID OR REALLY SHOWING HOW THE TRENDS HAVE CHANGED. THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE CHANGING DEMANDS. LOT SIZES . YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME DEMAND FOR LARGER LOTS . A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THE WATER WEAKNESS. LIFESTYLE NEVER WERE LOTS. AND SO THAT'S SHOWING WHAT'S IN HIGH DEMAND THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THE B A. U M. AND THEN I'M SURE EVERYONE HAS SEEN THE ARTICLES THAT HAVE COME OUT ABOUT THE SHORTAGE OF HOUSING. WE HAVE A LOT OF ROOM, AFRAID EMPLOYERS COMING TO THE REGION. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE HOUSING AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE A VERY DESIRABLE REGION. VERY DESIRABLE CITY, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING HOUSING. THAT'S THAT MATCHES UP WITH WHAT THE MARKET IS LOOKING FOR DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES, RIGHT. WE'VE HEARD THAT FROM MULTIPLE GROUPS TO BE A PUSH THAT UNIVERSITY TASK FORCE A LARGE PART OF OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE DIVERSITY TASK FORCE WAS ENSURING THAT WE HAVE DIVERSITY HOUSING. SO THAT'S WHAT THE CHARTS ON THE LEFT AND THE MAP IS SHOWING THAT THAT LOCALLY OUR POPULATION IS AGING . UM AND THEN LOOKING AT IT FROM THE LENS OF MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE ON THIS MAP. BUT WHAT THE MATH IS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE IS THAT GROSS CITY IS VERY UNIQUE FROM EVERY OTHER CENTRAL HIGHEST SUBURB IN THAT COLUMBUS THAT'S NEXT TO US IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE COLUMBUS IS NEXT TO EVERY OTHER SUMMER, RIGHT, SO IN TERMS OF SPECIFIC TO THE HOUSING DISCUSSION OKAY? DUBLIN WESTERN L. HILLYARD IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX CAN GO ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT WOMAN, COLUMBUS, AND IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GET APPROVAL AND TO DEVELOP. BUT THE COLUMBUS AROUND OUR CITY IS VERY DIFFERENT FACE A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT OTHER CENTRAL COMMUNITIES DON'T SO A LOT OF THAT GARDEN IS THEN PLACED ON US TO REVIEW IT LOCALLY. ARE PLAYING COMMISSIONER CITY COUNCIL HAD TO EXAMINE THAT WHEREAS RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO BE SAFE BENEFITS AND ANOTHER COMMUNITY JUST GO ACROSS THE STREET, COLUMBUS CAPTAIN. NO. CALLED THAT WON'T ALLOW SO. LIKE 14,000. APARTMENTS THAT ARE IN COLOMBO'S. WITH EVERYONE MILE OF DOUBLE THIS SO, YEAH, THAT'S A GLAD YOU POINTED OUT THAT NUMBER OF AMERICA'S SO DUBLIN'S NUMBER IS 14,447. GIRL CITY IS 1290.
INCLUDE THE ONES THAT THEY RUN AND YEAH, THAT'S. THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY SITE WITHIN OUR ONE BY ALL THOSE SUITABLE FOR. WHAT IT DOESN'T SAY IS THAT THE APARTMENTS DOUBLE PATTERS.
PROBABLY HAVE THAT WE DID EXAMINE THAT IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS. IN AN ANALYSIS THAT WE DID IN JANUARY, 2020. WE WERE THIRD IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF APARTMENT UNITS APPROVED BETWEEN
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2015 AND 2019. WESTERVILLE LED THE PACK FOLLOWED BY DOUBLE IN AND THEN BROKE CITY. SO IT'S KIND OF COMPOUNDED ON THIS RIGHT THAT. NOT ONLY DID THOSE MUNICIPALITIES APPROVED MORE APARTMENT UNITS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THE BENEFIT ATTACK PEOPLE OF THIS ADJACENT WITH THEM.NATIONAL QUESTION. I WAS SUSPECTED DUBLIN 14,000 OF US PLUS THE ONES THAT GOT IT SINCE 15 OR ONE HARD RIGHT? WOW. GOLD BRIDGE PARK, RIGHT? YEAH 1000. I THINK THAT JUST SHOWS SO MANY COMMUNITIES ARE RECOGNIZING THE SHIFT IN THE MARKET AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE DUBLIN. THEY CLEARLY HAVE A VERY GOOD THING GOING IN TERMS OF THEIR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT THEY ADOPTED AND BUILD, BUT THEY LOOK LIKE BEING IN TERMS OF MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY CREATED THE SNOWDEN BRIDGE PARK. IT'S A DESTINATION IN RESPONSE TO THE CHANGING MARKET DEMANDS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS A LOT. I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DOES SHOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF AT A PLACE RIGHT NOW WHERE IT'S. IT'S HARD TO NOT SEE THE TRENDS RIGHTIST. IT'S NOT JUST YEAH, EVERYTHING THAT THAT INSECT 2050 WITH MARCY HAD FORECASTED. 58 YEARS AGO HAS VERY MUCH COME TO FRUITION RIGHT IS SO OBVIOUSLY LOCAL, EVEN PERSON, 2015. WE WERE VERY COGNIZANT OF WHAT WORK. STEVE WAS SAYING, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE IDENTIFYING CERTAIN FORCES OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. RECOGNIZING THE MARKET TRENDS, DEMOGRAPHICS ARE ALL CHANGING. SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE, TOO, IS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THESE NEW POTENTIAL TO INTRODUCE NEW DISTRICTS WITH NEW STANDARDS FOR A NEW KIND OF HOUSING, BUT IN THE END, IT'S ALL GUIDED BY 2050 . RIGHT. SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO INTRODUCE THE NEW PENDANT, MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT TO SAY COULD GO ANYWHERE RIGHT.
EVERY APPLICATION THAT COMES TO US STILL HAS TO SHOW THAT IT'S IN LINE WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN JUST KIND OF ALL OF OUR DECISIONS. CAN YOU REMEMBER THIS STATISTIC IN 2015 WAS BASED ON PROJECTION THAT 30,000 RESIDENTS BY 2015 30 BELIEVE SO. OUR SO WE WAS 10 10 IS THE SIZE OF 10 AND I REMEMBER COMING AWAY FROM THIS CONVERSATION'S GOING THAT'S LIKE DROPPING OBSIDIAN INTO THE CITY OF GROSS CITIES. YEAH WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OR SOME IF WE HAVE THE EXACT MUNICIPAL FACTORIES THEY WERE AT THE TIME OF 20. TO EAT. BASED ON THOSE PROJECTIONS, WE AWARD THE ABOUT 48,020 15, BUT THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE LARGER PLANNING AREA, WHICH WAS OUR EVERY UTILITY. EVERY THIS. THAT WHOLE AREA WAS 60,000. SO THE AVERAGE OF THAT IS ABOUT 54,000.
SO THAT'S SORT OF THE BEST GUESSTIMATE. IT RECENTLY AND FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, MORSI CAME OUT WITH A PROJECTION AND DESCEND TO 3 MILLION RESIDENTS IN THE REGION FOR 2050 GRADE, SO AND THEY WENT DOWN TO LOOK DEEPER AND SAID SOME 726,000 OTHERS NEW PRESIDENTS WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN THE SUBURBS. SO PORTION OF THAT GROWTH WILL BE IN THE SUBURBS AND ALSO THE 357,000 ADDITIONAL WORKERS WOULD BE EMPLOYED SOMEWHERE IN THE SUBURBS AS WELL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO THANK GOD DOESN'T HAVE OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS. JUST TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO HELP BALANCE THE RIGHTS OF NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY OWNERS, DEVELOPERS IN LINE WITH THEIR ZONING CODE IN LINE WITH THERE ARE COMPLAINTS, WHICH WERE TRYING TO SIT HERE AND MAKE DECISIONS. THE CONFERENCE OF LEVEL. AND THAT THEN APPLY THOSE PRINCIPLES TO LOCAL APPLICATION, SO THAT ALL GOES BACK TO THE PHARMACY NUMBERS AGAIN. FIGURED OUT FOR CENTER AND 26,000 NEW RESIDENTS TO THE SUBURBAN COMMUNITY OF COLUMBUS. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE VERY MUCH DESIRABLE AREA, SO WE HAVE NO REASON NOT TO BELIEVE THAT ADDITIONAL PRESSURE PUT ON US TO HELP MANAGE THAT GROUP.
WELL I GUESS IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT DISCUSSION POORER, GONNA START TRANSITIONING TO SOME OF THE MORE TITLE SPECIFIC DISCUSSIONS. I'M SORRY AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE WILL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT. THESE SLIDES WERE ALL OVER HER BACK TO WHAT WE
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TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. ALONG THE WAY, FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. TITLE ONE. WE DISCUSSED PRETTY FREELY IN DETAIL IN 2021. THE PURPOSE IS TO ESTABLISH THE ADMINISTRATIVE STRUCTURE OF THE CODE AND UNDERLYING PROCESSES. THE CONTENT IS REALLY THE APPROVAL AUTHORITIES PERIOD. AMANDA PROCESSES FOR REVELATIONS THIS CHART. I BELIEVE I INSERTED A COMPANY OF LISTEN, EVERYONE'S NOTEBOOKS. IF NOT, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT SORT OF SUMMARIZES. A LOT OF THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY IS ENTITLED ONE INSTEAD OF HAVING YOU DON'T HAVE IT. YOU DON'T HAVE IT. I CAN. I CAN SAY THAT TO TFS FINANCIAL RIGHT AGAIN. ONE JUST CONSOLIDATES EVERYTHING MORE IN TERMS OF APPROVALS, BUDDIES. SO HOW WAS TITLE ONE DIFFERENT FROM OUR CRIME MODE? UM WE OBTAINED DEFINITION IS, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS GROUPED WITH THE P D. AND THE PLAN DISTRICT ZONING OF WHAT THIS REALLY HELPS WITH. FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IN OUR PROCESSES THAT YES, PICTURE TO THE TEXT A LOT OF TIMES WITH THE PRELIMINARY WORK TRYING TO GET A COMFORT LEVEL. BUT THERE'S NO ACTUALLY REGULATING TEXT ALONG WITH IT. AND THEN BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE ZONING TEXT, THEN THERE'S NO PICTURE TO GO ALONG WITH SOMETHING TEXT SO BY DOING IT THIS WAY, THE PRELIMINARY MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, AND IF IT DOESN'T OUR CURRENT PROCESS, BUT THERE'S AT LEAST A PICTURE TO GO ALONG WITH THAT. THAT'S ONLY TEXT FOR THE INDUSTRY. FOX SPORTS WILL BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY BY THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF APPROVAL AUTHORITY IS GIVEN TO PLANNING COMMISSIONING FOR CONDITIONAL USES AND MINOR SITE PLANS WILL REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS CODE IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR CURRENT CODE IN TERMS OF HOW WE HANDLE CONDITIONAL USES, WHEREAS NOW THE SPECIALLY USES ARE JUST SORT OF A LIST IN CODE RIGHT THAT THAT USED IN ANY DISTRICT HAS TO REQUIRE, ESPECIALLY FOR MEN UNDER THE NEW CODE, ENTITLED TO THERE ARE SPECIFIC USES PER DISTRICT THAT ARE ALLOWED TO SUBMIT FOR CONDITIONAL USE, SO IT'S FAR MORE SPECIFIC AND CONTEXTUAL AND THEIR ACTUAL STANDARDS THAT CORRESPOND TO ALL OF THESE SPECIFIC CONDITIONAL USES BY DISTRICT. SO WHAT HAVE WE DONE ENTITLED ONCE SINCE 21. NOT A LOT, HONESTLY, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE SPENT THE MOST TIME YES, BACK OVER. I HAVE GOT SOME CONCERNS ON MINOR. SAFE PLACE. THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFLICTS AND, UH, CERTAIN PAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM IF YOU JUST GO OVER WHAT YOU FOLKS HAVE PROPOSED FINER SIGHT FLYING LOOKS LIKE THE TIME TO SPEND WITH FAMILY. YEAH A SINGLE HOME FOR TWO OLDER BUT THEN, OTHER TIMES. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT . SO YEP. AND THAT'S ALLEGED BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS ONE OF THE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS FROM OUR DISCUSSION IN THE 2021 MEETINGS . SO WE COMPILED THIS CHART TO HELP KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT THOSE DIFFERENCES ARE. OKAY THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT MINOR STUDY PLAN IS, AND THEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T MEET THE DEFINITION OF SO I TRIED TO PICK OUT SOME EXISTING OLD OLD PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT TO WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ACTUALLY ARE SUFFERING. EMBALMING YOUR SITE PLAN, WHICH CURRENTLY WOULD GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. UM, USUALLY THE MAIN THING THAT KEEPS IT OFF IS THE DEVELOPMENTS. THE ROOM RESULTED IN 5000 SQUARE FEET OR MORE. THE SURFACE IF YOU LOOK AT BASICALLY THE SMALLEST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE DONE IN RECENT TIMES ABOUT WAFFLE HOUSE THAT WAS 15,000 SQUARE FEET, SO LOOKING AT WHAT WARRANTS THAT MAJOR SITE PLAN, IT IS ESSENTIALLY ANYTHING DEVELOPMENT. IN TERMS OF A MINOR SITE PLANS SOMETHING THAT'S SMALLER IN SCALE THE FORGE BIOLOGICS EXPANSION FROM LAST YEAR WAS JUST OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET, SO THAT WOULD BE THAT THRESHOLD BECAUSE IT'S UM IT'S NOT A DEVELOPED IT DOESN'T GENERATE SUFFICIENT TRAFFIC.IT'S NOT ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, SO IT DOESN'T GET THOSE THRESHOLDS TO THE POINT MAJOR SAFETY PROPERTIES THAT ARE EMBEDDED LIKE CASTRO PROPERTY. THE JOB WAS OTHER PROPERTIES LIKE THAT. HARDEN IMPORTANT STREAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEIR SINGLE FAMILIES, AND THEY WANT TO EITHER PUT UP ON A VACANT LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY MINOR SITE. NO, IT WOULD DEPEND FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE ZONING CERTIFICATE IF IT'S ALREADY SO APPROPRIATELY, AND IT IS JUST A SINGLE FAMILY HOME SAYS THAT MAJOR SAFE PLAN IS
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RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES WITH MORE THAN TWO UNITS. SIMILAR TO RIGHT WE DON'T SEE THEM HOME POSTERS ANY COMMISSION COUNCIL RIGHT NOW, RIGHT, BUT THERE ISN'T SO NAME CHECK JUST SO THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THEIR LIVES, EVEN IF ITS OWN APPROPRIATELY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT NEEDS TO SET BACK CITIES RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT STANDARDS, ALL THE OTHER STANDARDS OF CODE. THAT'S WHAT THE ZONE EXTRA TICKET. YEAH. OKAY SO WHAT'S CHANGED HERE? THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED APPROVAL APPROVAL CONDITIONS ARTISTIC MINOR SITE PAGE 28. YES PLANNING COMMISSION IS CURRENTLY GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE YOUR SAFETY AS WE HAVE IT NOW.WELL, WE DON'T MINOR SITE PLAYING THIS REALLY NEW DEFINITION. WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A MINOR CYCLONE SEEMS TO CONFLICT WITH PAGE 41. UM AT THE BOTTOM OF 40, OR SHOULD I SAY, UH. OF ONE OR TWO FAIRLY STRUCTURES THAT REQUIRE MINOR SAFE PLACE, BUT IT MAY RIGHT. NO BECAUSE THE A ONE OR TWO FAMILY STRUCTURE WOULD STILL BE FOR ZONING COMPLIANCE TO THE ZONING CERTIFICATE. TRUE. SO A MINOR SITE PLAN IS, UM, KIND OF IN THE NAME OF THE MAJOR SITE PLAN IS ESSENTIALLY OUR STREETS OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN RIGHT NOW WHERE IT'S DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW SITE.
BUT RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS THE FOURTH BIOLOGICAL EXPANSION THAT MEETS CODE GREAT, BUT IT'S IT IS A DEVELOPMENT FEEL LIKE I'M NOT TAKING NOTES. DID YOU PUT IT DOWN TO BLUE DISCUSSED IT A LITTLE BIT, STILL SKETCHY ABOUT MINOR SECOND THING. YEAH TRY THAT. WITH AND USING THE ROADS OUT HERE. CASTRO EXAMPLE. IS THAT IT CAN USE THE PROPERTY UNDER JOANIE CERTIFICATE. UM WELL, THAT IN THAT SPECIFIC EXAMPLE. WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE UNDERLYING DISTRICTS REQUIRED. I THINK IT'S IN OUR SMALL LOT. SUBDIVISION OR THE SMALLEST LOT FOR HISTORIC LOTS SO HE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THAT PERSONALLY, BUT ANY TIME THERE IS AN AMENDMENT TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND A STATE WILL BE IN THE FORM WITHIN THE SETBACKS AND WHATNOT THAT WOULD THEN KICK OFF THE NEED TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THAT SITE, OR GET VARIANCES TO INFRINGE INTO SET ABOUT TO PUT IN 23 FAMILIES, SO THAT WOULD TAKE. WHAT IS THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN, ZONING WOULD HAVE TO BE AMENDED BECAUSE IT'S NOT FITTED. RIGHT RIGHT. IT WAS EVEN WHEN IT IS WITH THE ZONING HAS CHANGED. IT WON'T BE REZONED MOST COMPARABLE DISTRICT SO IT WILL REMAIN A SINGLE EARNED A SINGLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY. SO RIGHT OFF THE BAT COULDN'T DO DUPLEX SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO READ SOMETHING TO DISTRICT.
OKAY? STILL PUT IT DOWN. IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT. YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP THE TIME NOW, DON'T YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS IT? OKAY APPROVAL PLATZ THAT STILL GOES THROUGH. THAT NECESSARY. THAT'S WHAT IT'S STANDARD IN MOST COMMUNITIES BECAUSE IT IS ACCEPTING PUBLIC BECAUSE PART OF THE PLAN IS NOT ONLY ARE YOU CHUNKING OUT A LOT, BUT IT WOULD BE WHERE WE GET RIGHT AND THAT IS SOMETHING COUNSELING. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT MY QUESTION. A PLAQUE. WELL, DO IT. THE FARMSTEAD? YES. I THINK THE NEW CODE CLARIFIES A BIT MORE WHAT CAN BE HANDLED THROUGH PLOT SPLITS VERSUS PLANTS. SO, UM I DON'T RECALL SPECIFICALLY THROUGH PART IS THAT I THINK THERE WAS RIGHT AWAY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT COULD'VE FOUGHT ADMINISTRATIVE, BUT I BELIEVE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INSTANCES WHERE THERE WAS A PLAQUE CREATED JUST TO ESSENTIALLY DO FIVE OR SIX LOT SPLITS BUT CONSOLIDATED HELLO, EXPOSED TO HANDLE THAT.
YEAH, I FORGOT ABOUT MY WALKING. YEAH, RIGHT. SO REALLY, THE OUTSTANDING ITEMS IT, UM, TITLE
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ONE GOES BACK TO SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE YEARS OF THE CLARIFICATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE VERSUS LEGISLATIVE ACTS IN TERMS OF ENFORCING THE STANDARDS SET IN CODE VERSUS CREATING NEW STANDARDS IN THE APPROVAL AUTHORITIES THAT CORRESPONDS TO IT. SO AS WE USED TO PLAY, THE COMMISSION WILL BE ABLE TO IMPROVE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. SO OF AGE OR SITE PLAN FOR FINALS PLAN BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CHANGING THE REGULATIONS TIED TO THOSE PURELY ENFORCING THE STANDARDS OF CODES. THE ROLE OF COUNCIL WOULD THAT BE LEGISLATIVE SO SETTING EQUALS SO COUNCIL. SEE MAJOR SITE PLANS. FINAL PLANS COUNSELOR SETTING THE RULES THAT DICTATE THAT IS NOT HOW THE CODE IS CURRENTLY DRAFTED, BUT WE HAVE HEARD COMMENTS TO ESSENTIALLY HAVE THAT DISCUSSED AGAIN IN TERMS OF OUR COMPETITIVENESS WITH THE REGION IN TERMS OF FAIRNESS, PLATING COMMISSION AND THEIR ROLES AND HOW EVERYTHING FITS TOGETHER IN THE PROCESS. THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE AGAIN. JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS PROCESS NOW IS TO DEPLOY DEVELOPED PLANT SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT MORE UPFRONT AND MORE COMPREHENSIVE, SO IT'S NOT JUST, UH CONCERT CONCEPT OR SKETCH PLAN AND THAT PLAN. WE'RE SAVING THE DEVELOPER MULTIPLE STEPS. WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL THE ISSUES OUT, BUT MORE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF THE LOST ROOM PLAN OR TRY TO LOOK AT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, TRYING TO GET THE ANSWER TO THE DEVELOPER FURTHER, SO IT'S EASIER TO KIND OF TELL NO WHEN THEY DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THIS CONVERSATIONS ON THE USE OF A PROPERTY UPFRONT, MORE CONFERENCE IN NATURE, AND THEN AFTER THAT, ALL THE RULES WILL BE SET SO THAT POINT BECOMES MORE APPLYING THE RULES THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CAN'T SAY SO DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT HASN'T BEEN CHANGED EITHER PREVENTION FOR CITY COUNCIL OR SOMETHING MIGHT MINOR CHANGES ON THERE OR WHATEVER, BUT MANY TIMES UNTIL WE SEE IT. FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WE'RE CERTAIN ITEMS ARE PATHS ARE WHERE CERTAIN LANDSCAPING IS VISITED ENOUGH TIME IN BETWEEN.I CAN THINK OF WHEN THE INCOME PROPERTY ABOUT ORIGINALLY AND THE PRELIMINARY HAD THE OFFENSE OF PRIVACY FENCE FOR LANDSCAPING . PRELIMINARY CAME TO THE FINAL IT WAS LANDSCAPING. AND THE PRELIMINARY IT WAS CROSSING THE ROAD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. AND THEN THE FINAL. IT WAS THE SIDEWALK WAS GOING DOWN TO SOUTH SIDE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. BECAUSE REALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MINISTRY OF ITEMS OF APPLICATION WHICH IS TYPICALLY HANDLED BY ITS STAFF, NOT COUNSEL. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COUNSELOR THAT HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THE YEARS 6 22 CONTINUE THAT. I THINK I SEE STUFF FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY'RE MAKING SUGGESTIONS AND THEY'RE MAKING STIPULATIONS. AND I SEE THAT THE SAME THING HAPPENING WITH CONSTABLE MOTHER CAN'T I WOULDN'T SUPPORT NO BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS. I MEAN, JUST LIKE WE HAD ON ADELINE 6 65 AND DEPENDING. THESE SAFETY ISSUES. WE ALL ADD UP ON A BOARD ROOM AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. WE ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY HAD TO ADDRESS THOSE. THIS LEAVES THE SIDE OF THE LOOP ON IT. I THINK IN MY MIND, THIS CONVERSATION HAS HAPPENED EARLIER. IT'S JUST PLAYING HAPPEN IS WE HAVE TWO BITES AT THE APPLE. WE HAVE A GUIDANCE OF WHERE WE WANTED TO GO, AND THEN WE HAVE THE ACCEPTANCE ON FEDERAL HAPPEN.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS MR AREAS WHEN YOU SEE IF YOU DO HAVE TO BITE THE APPLE. THE PROBLEM IS YOUR FIRST BITE. YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE REALLY DECISIONS BECAUSE THE PRELIMINARIES THAT WE DO NOW ARE SUCH JUST CONCEPTUAL IDEAS. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PRELIMINARY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET UNDER THE NEW PROCESS ARE GOING TO BE MUCH MORE DETAILED, MUCH MORE IN DEPTH. YOU KNOW, THE THING TO REMEMBER IS YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY. WE DO BOTH LEGISLATIVE MATERIALS AND ADMINISTRATIVE MATERIALS WHEN IT COMES TO THE LEGISLATIVE STUFF UP THERE, REZONING PD ALL THAT YOU HAVE THE MOST DISCRETION. YOU CAN SAY NO, BECAUSE IT'S MONDAY. OKAY BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF, AND THE REASON WHY A LOT OF PLACES WILL HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES DECISIONS AS THEY ARE NOW APPLYING THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE, THEY DON'T HAVE DISCRETION. THEY HAVE THE CODE SECTIONS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN THEM IN WHICH TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON AND WHAT THIS DOES IS, IT MAKES THE PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT. AND ONCE AGAIN HEARING ONE AS COUNSEL WHO ARE
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SETTING THE STANDARDS BY WHICH PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING TO REVIEW THESE PROJECTS. THEY HAVE NO DISCRETION OTHER THAN WHAT YOU GIVE THEM IN THE CODE. IF THAT I DISAGREE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. NO BODY. WHEN IT COMES RIGHT DOWN TO IT. THE RESIDENTS COME TO US WHEN IT COMES TIME TO, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE APPOINTED BODY.NOTHING AGAINST PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU GUYS DO A WONDERFUL JOB RECOMMENDING TO US AND EVERYTHING, BUT THEY RESPECT THEIR ELECTED BODY, THEIR ELECTED LEADERS TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF INSTANCES IN THE CODE WHERE YOU WERE DELEGATING AND IMPOSING.
RESTRICTIONS AND OR THINGS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO. I MEAN, YOU DO THIS ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW, UH, ADMINISTRATIVELY. HOW FINANCE DOES THINGS PLANNING AND ZONING PARK RULES WHEN YOU DO THIS ALL THE TIME WHERE YOU'RE DELEGATING THIS STUFF TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO. THIS IS NO DIFFERENCE HERE. I JUST TALKED TO YOU WEREN'T BROKEN YOUR MIND . YOU MAY BUT I KNOW RESIDENTS CALL ME ALL THE TIME. AND I KNOW THEY CALLED ALL THE MEMBERS ALL THE TIME ABOUT ISSUES LIKE THIS AND WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THEM. I UNDERSTAND I IN BROKENNESS. PROBABLY NOT A WORD I USED WHEN WE HAVE THE ZONING CODE. THAT'S 50 YEARS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T LOOK AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF ZONING. YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK? WHAT THEY'RE DOING HERE IS THEY'RE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS THAT WE CAN REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN ATTRACTING THE RIGHT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY ONCE AGAIN WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN IT COMES TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE POWERS. IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE WHAT YOU GET THIS I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THESE 10 THINGS. YOU KNOW THAT'S IT, PERIOD, AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE SO INFORMATION ON THE POLITICAL MARY. YOU KNOW THEY WOULDN'T BEFORE, SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN A BETTER POSITION THAT OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT TO SEE THESE ISSUES AS OPPOSED TO NOW, WHEN YOU GET THESE ISSUES AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS WORTH IT ABSOLUTE END OF IT, AND WE'RE REDESIGNING THINGS ON THE FLY AND THE LAST MEETING POSSIBLE.
WHEREAS WHAT THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO DO IS PUT THE HARD WORK AT THE BEGINNING AND THEN MAKE THE PROCESS AFTER THAT FLOW MUCH SMOOTHER. THAT'S THE INTENSIVE THING I SAY JUST TO COMMENT ON THAT WHEN WE GO TO THE COUNSELOR, YOU KNOW AND THERE'S TIMES WHEN WE HAVE SOME OF THESE COMPLAINTS COME UP TO US, AND THERE'S REALLY NOT REPRESENTATION FROM THE CITY.
ME. WE WOULD HEAR SOME OF THOSE THINGS YOU KNOW, IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF IT. WE CAN NIP SOME OF THOSE SIX AND DIVIDE BEFORE IT ACTUALLY GETS THE POINT. GIVE IT PLEASE SAY YES BECAUSE COUNSEL A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW UP AND THEY SAY NO OR HAVE A LOT OF OTHER IDEAS YOU KNOW ABOUT THE PLANETARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN COULD HAVE NIPPED IN THE BUD AND PLANNING COMMISSION. AS LONG AS THOSE PEOPLE COULD ATTEND THE MEETINGS. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A MEETING DURING THE DAY, OUR CITIZENS GENERALLY CANNOT ATTEND THE MEETING. THEY CAN SPEND IT TOO. YEAH, I MEAN, WE DID. BUT I GUESS I COULD BACK TO WHERE THE ELECTED PEOPLE THERE. AND I MEAN THEY THE THIRD TRUST OR NOT TAKING ANOTHER WIFE SELECT US BASED ON OUR BOATS, AND I SEE WHERE THAT WE NEED TO MODIFY OUR SELLING EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. I'M NOT. I DON'T AGREE THAT WE NEED TO MODIFY THE PROCESS. I DON'T THINK THERE IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW. I WAS LOOKING AT CITIZENS FIRST, NOT DEVELOPERS FIRST. AND SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE ELECTED BODY. TWO. TWO THINGS REALLY. UM UM. ONE I DO THINK MY OBSERVATION IS THAT THERE ARE EFFICIENCIES OR BLACK BARREL THAT MEAT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS UM SO. AND MR SMITH'S POINT IN A COMPETITIVE MARKETPLACE. UM WE CAN WE CAN SAY THAT WE WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT HAS THE FINAL AUTHORITY BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONES THAT PEOPLE WILL CALL AND I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, BUT. THAT WOULD CHANGE.
OBVIOUSLY IF WE CHANGE OUR WAY OF DOING THINGS, UM SO WE WOULD HAVE TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND, I THINK PROCESS AND GIVE THAT PROCESS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND SHOW AND TEACH THE COMMUNITY WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE NOW , BUT I ALWAYS LOOK AT THIS IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW THE 11TH HOUR.
IT COMES TO CITY COUNCIL, AND WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AS TO WHAT THE FLAWS MIGHT BE, AS YOU KNOW, IN A BUSINESS CENTER IS MIND. TIME IS MONEY, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY ENGAGED MULTIPLE AUDIENCES TO GET TO THE DECISION MAKING BODY AND FIND OUT THAT THERE ARE FIVE NEW OPINIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. SO ONE THING I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS ON THIS AND IS THERE AN
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APPEAL PROCESS AND I KNOW THAT WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT. UM WHEN WE REMEMBER THIS THE LAST TIME, UM SO I THINK THAT IS A GOOD DISCUSSION. AND I ALSO THINK THAT I WOULD BE CURIOUS ABOUT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS MORE AUTHORITY ARE WE DOING ARE THOSE COMMUNITIES DOING LIKE AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND PROVIDING THE LEVEL OF WOULD LIKE YOU TO APPLY FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND HERE? THE CREDENTIALS THAT WE'RE SEEKING, AND UM AND POTENTIALLY APPROVAL OF THE THOSE NUMBERS. BY THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I THINK ALLOWING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A SYNERGY AND GIVING TEETH TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, SO THOSE ARE THINGS ARE BLACK. MY TWO CENTS WORTH IS LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING MORE COMPLETE AT THE PRELIMINARY I HAVE BECOME MORE AND MORE RELUCTANT TO APPROVE.WHEN WE MADE CHANGES DURING THE PRELIMINARY MEETING, WE SAID, YEAH, WE DON'T LIKE THE FENCE OR OR DEFENSE OR MOUNTING THING WHEN YOU CANCEL CHANGING THAT YOU GET A LOT OF YES, WILL TICKETS THROUGH THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE BUILDER WILL CIRCLE BACK AROUND AND ADDRESS THAT ISSUE, SO IT'S GETTING HARDER AND HARDER THAN NEEDED. RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITHOUT EXPLICITLY AMENDING AND THEN OFFERING MORE AMENDMENTS STIPULATIONS. KIND OF TEAM IT UP FOR YOU ALL TO THEM. PLAY OFF OF THAT AND SAY, HEY, THAT IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS. SO THE MORE WE CAN GET RIGHT COMPLETED CAN BE THOROUGHLY YOU CAN CAN PUSH IT OUT. THE BETTER IT IS. I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO WEIGH IN ON WHO SHOULD HAVE FINAL ON IT. BUT IF IT IS FINAL AND PLANNING COMMISSION THAT REALLY MEETS INTO PEOPLE PROCESS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ELECTED, WE COULD GET IT WRONG. SOMEONE BEING CIVILITY CAN TAKE IT TO THE ELECTED RIGHT. WHEN WE FIRST DRAFTED THE CODE THERE WAS THAT APPEAL.
OPPONENT REMEMBER CASTLE CODE OF YOUR ANY DECISION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE BROUGHT IN PRODUCT COUNCIL FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION JUST AS A SAFETY NET. THAT WAS ONE OF. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOPER DEVELOPER HAS THE RIGHT ON ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS, THINGS IN COURT. SO THEY WOULD HAVE 25 6 APPEAL. THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THAT THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE OF ADMINISTRATIVE WAS NOT BASED ON RELIABLE, PROBATIVE SUBSTANTIVE EVIDENCE. SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE COURT OPTION VERSUS COUNCIL. BUT WHEN WAS PLANNING COMMISSION YES, SIR. WHAT YOU EXPLAIN THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENTS. DUBLIN DUBLIN IS A CITY MANTRA FOR GOVERNMENT. EXPLAIN WHAT THAT DUBLIN'S IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE BECAUSE DUBLIN DOES. I GUESS I WOULD GUESS THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT AND I KNOW THAT WE SAID WE'D DO A LOT MORE PEOPLE DS THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF PD DEVELOPMENT WE DO VERSUS ST ZONE IS STILL SIGNIFICANTLY MORE STRAIGHT ZONE , I WOULD SAY IF YOU CAN FIND ME A STRAIGHT ZONE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THAT CITY THAT THEY'VE ACTED ON IN THE LAST 15 YEARS. BUY YOU DINNER SOMEWHERE.
THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. THEY DON'T. I MEAN, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING IN DUBLIN. WE REPRESENT THEM. WHICH IS WHAT I'M SAYING. WE, UM NOTHING IS STRAIGHT UP. EVERYTHING IS IMPEDED, SO IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD THERE. AND I DO LIKE I WILL TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS RPG PROCESS HERE IN GROVE CITY IS A UNIQUE AND THAT HOW IT WORKS. TODAY IS DIFFERENT THAN LITERALLY EVERY SUBDIVISION IN THE STATEWIDE. UM IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WHEN YOU HEAR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN MY MIND IS OKAY. THAT'S THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. WE'RE SETTING OUT TO BEGIN. BUT NOT HERE ARE PRELIMINARY. IS THIS WEIRD CONCEPT PLAN WHERE YOU'RE JUST WEIGHING IN, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO WEIGH IN YET. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS GETS US ON COURSE WITH FRANKLY THE REST OF THE STATE IN TERMS OF HOW WE DO THINGS. I MEAN, DUBLIN IS DIFFERENT IN THAT WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING TO MR BARRY IS THEIR PROJECTS GET BEAT THE HECK AT THE BEGINNING, AND THEN THEY GET EASIER AS THEY GO ON. OURS IS DIFFERENT IN THAT COUNCIL AT THE PRELIMINARY STAGE, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO TRULY MAKE. INFORMED DECISIONS OTHER THAN WE LIKE THE CONCEPT, AND THEN WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THE FINAL LAST STAGE WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, LET'S PICK THIS
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APART AND, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES HERE. MR. SHOCKING. TALKED ABOUT MR BARRY TALKED ABOUT CHANGING THE PROCESS. THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IT WOULD MOVE ALL THAT WORK TO THE BEGINNING, WHICH MAKES IT EASIER ON DEVELOPERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN IDEA AT THE OUTSET. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO VERSUS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING AT THE LAST MINUTE AT THE LAST AFTER THEY'VE INVESTED TONS OF MONEY AND TIME TO MAKE CHANGES. LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE DIFFERENCE THAT I SEE. JUST GOING BACK TO IT. I JUST FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE CAN DO, BECAUSE I TEND TO PLAY THE COMMISSION MEETING 80% OF THE TIME BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR YOUR QUESTIONS. I WANT TO HEAR YOU COMMENTS AND YOU CAN YOU MAKE YOU DO MAKE CHANGES AND PUT IT STIPULATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN I COME BACK. I COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND I LOOK AT THIS AND I LOOK INTO THINGS THAT YOU PRODUCT I THINK TWO SETS OF REVIEWS IS BETTER THAN ONE SET OF REFUSAL. THAT'S WHAT IT. OR SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE.I MEAN, I DO THINK ANYTIME YOU MOVE, HIGHER LEVEL WORK EARLIER PROCESS. I DON'T THINK THAT. I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE EYE LEVEL WORK. HI CRITERIA EARLY IN THE PROCESS OF CRISPY, YOU KNOW, PLAYING THIS CATCH UP EARLIER. WE HIGHER STANDARD IN THE NEXT ONE ADMINISTRATIVE JUST SOME MIDDLE GROUND THAT WHAT I'M THINKING OF JUST FALLEN NOTHING . SORRY WHAT? ONE THING AS REVERSE LEE TO THAT. IT'S ALSO NICE WHEN THE DEVELOPERS UP TO YOU WITH A CONCEPT AND THEY CAN EASILY TELL. DO THEY LIKE IT OR DON'T THEY LIKE IT? SHOULD I JUST MORE TIME OR SHOULD I JUST ONE TIME? SO THAT'S WHY THAT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANS IS HELP. SEVERAL LEVELS, THINGS ACTUALLY LIKE THAT THAT THEY CAN COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY, DO DO WE LIKE THIS PLAN? THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT MR BARRY IS FOR DEVELOPERS TO GET TO THAT STAGE.
THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD TO INVEST MONTHS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION. WAIT FOR IT TO GO TO COUNCIL. SO IT ISN'T JUST WHAT WE CAN SHOW UP A COUNCIL AND GET A WHAT KIND OF NOT IN TERMS OF WHETHER DEVELOPMENT THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME IS ALREADY INVESTED, PROBABLY FOUR MONTHS WORTH OF WORK IN ORDER TO KNOW WHETHER THE CONCEPT THAT WORK THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT FRONT AND. SO MARKER. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF YOU MAKE THEM MUCH MORE COMPLEX , PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUIRED WARREN THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT RIGHT, TRYING TO TRYING TO MARRY THE FLOWER DEVELOPMENT IN THE ZONE TOGETHER, RIGHT? INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S JUST WORKS OUT IS FINE. IF YOU DO THAT, IT'S JUST SO MUCH EASIER. WHAT SHE GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO YEAR POINT ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE VERSUS LEGISLATIVE FIRST TO START TO DISCERN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IS IN OUR CODE AND THE STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN SET WORK. AND WHAT IS THIS CURRENT PERSONAL PREFERENCES? IF YOU WILL EXCUSE THE TERMINOLOGY, BUT AT WHAT POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW IF SOMETHING KEEPS COMING UP, AND WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT IT, WE COULD GO BACK AND CHANGE THE CODE OF THE STANDARD, AND THAT WAY IT WOULD SIMPLY BE ROLE OF STAFFED AS YOU'RE PREPARING THE PRELIMINARY ABOUT THE PLAN TO KNOW THAT ALL OF THEM ARE DOTTED AND CROSSED AND RIGHT, AND THOSE STANDARDS ARE BEING ADHERED TO SHOULD BASICALLY GET SOMETHING THAT'S ALMOST BUTTONED UP ENTIRELY. BY THE TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRELIMINARY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO A LOT THROUGHOUT THE CODE OF TAPE.
WHAT WE HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER COUNCIL AND JUST PUT IT IN THE COAST IN TERMS OF APPEARANCE STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. RIGHT NOW, OUR CODE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH COMMUNITY IF WE WANT ANY KIND OF SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, SO THEY'VE TAKEN WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND PUT IT IN CODE SO THAT A DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO DO IT EVEN IN THE STREET ZONE DISTRICT, RIGHT? IF I CAN SING QUESTIONS, EVEN A SIMPLE CABLE THERE. TALKS ABOUT THE CURRENT A. AND THEN THE NEWS AREA AND SHOW WHAT IS JUDGMENT CRITERIA ARE JUST HELP TO ILLUSTRATE THE KIND OF WORK IN THE FUTURE THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO EAT TO BE ABLE TO GO HOME FOR BEFORE COMMISSION. IT'S HARD TO BE THE ANYWAY GETS WHERE IT GETS WEIRD IS WE DON'T DO IT THIS WAY RIGHT NOW. BUT IN MOST INSTANCES, THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL IS
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ALMOST A FOREGONE CONCLUSION IN MOST COMMUNITIES BECAUSE IF IT MEETS THE PRELIMINARY GENERALLY IT GETS APPROVED. SO THERE ISN'T LIKE I SAID IN MOST PLACES THE WORK GOES IN AT THE BEGINNING.SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE FINAL REASON WHY THAT HAPPENS ADMINISTRATIVE HERE IN LIKE WHAT YOU'D SEE IN DUBLIN, OTHER PLACES, UM HILLIER FIT FOR EACH OTHER EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE FINALS GENERALLY GET TO GET APPROVED. IF IT MEETS ALL THE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY, SO IT TRULY DOES BECOME KIND OF A LET'S CHECK THE BOXES. HERE'S THE CRITERIA WE HAVE IN THE CODE. HERE'S WHAT THE PRELIMINARY WAS. THAT'S JUST WHERE IT'S A DIFFERENT VERY THERE'S ONLY ONE RIGHT, CORRECT. ARE YOU EVEN SEND A WAITING ON STREET? OKAY SO HE IS THE ONLY PART OF LEBANON. THERE ARE SOME . STRATEGY REQUIREMENTS ON THAT CHECKLIST. OVER THE ITEMS THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT. THEY DON'T DO WELL, BUT THE PROBLEM NOW IS OUR PRELIMINARY IN HER ZONING OR TWO DIFFERENT KIND OF PAST, WHEREAS IN MOST PLACES, THE PRELIMINARY AND ZONING ARE GONNA BE TIED TOGETHER, SO THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS WITH ALL THE INFORMATION AT THE OUTSET. VERSUS PRELIMINARY PLAYER IN THE CONCEPT THAT GOES THIS WAY. WE HAVE A ZONING BECAUSE THIS WAY SOMEWHERE THEY MEET IN THE MIDDLE. UM I THINK WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS MAKE THEM GOOD ON THE SAME TRACK AND YOU GET A LOT MORE INFORMATION WITH THE ZONING ELIMINATED SO THEY CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT LOOK, YOU THINK PRELIMINARY AREAS BEING D WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND DAY. THAT'S NO DIFFERENT. WHAT RIGHT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ADDING THE RESULTING TO THE PLUMBER DEVELOPMENT? YES, SO THAT THEY'LL NOW RIDE TOGETHER. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE CHANGE. SO IT'S TITLE FOR REALLY THE GUTS OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REQUIREMENTS OR IS THAT FOUR IS MORE THE SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY. TITLE THREE IS WHAT HAS THE RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE STANDARDS? OKAY BUT THE DISTRICT STANDARDS. SO MOST OF WHAT YOU WOULD BE EXAMINING ON A MAJOR SITE PLAN. WOULD BE FOUND ENTITLED THREE. OKAY, THANK YOU. THIS TRIP COLLEGE COURSE WORLD. YEAH THAT'S THE ONE. YEAH IT'S REALLY NOT MORE. YEAH RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW ON BIGGER PROJECTS. WITH THIS PLUMBER. IF YOU WANT THAT PROCESS, SOMETIMES WE'LL ASK THE DEVELOPER TO DRAFT ZONE TAX PROBLEM PRELIMINARILY THAT WE REALLY CAN'T PUT WITH IT OFFICIALLY, BUT WE KNOW COUNCIL WANTS MORE DETAILED FRONTS.
WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE COUNSEL THE SECTOR INFORMATION, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY BINDING, THOUGH, SO IT'S EVEN IF COUNCIL VOTES NO ONE EMPLOYED AT ALL PLAN ARE COOL. GOOD FORWARD WITH RESULTING SO WE'RE REALLY KICKING THE CAN DOWN FURTHER DOWN THE ROADS. WE ARE REALLY THINK KETCHUP. AND THEN REALLY, WHAT IT DOES IS THERE'S NO ANSWER FOR THE COMMUNITY. THESE ISSUES JUST KIND OF DRAGGED DOWN. FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF THE PROCESSES LAID OFF THAT WAY.
THERE'S NO DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO APPROVER TO KILL A PROJECT. SO AND I CAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
CHUCK IN THE MIRROR, AND I ARE PROBABLY THE ONLY THREE LEFT THAT REMEMBER PRELIMINARY PLANS BEFORE. AND YOU HAD THE PRELIMINARY AND THE ZONING CODE HAD TO RIDE TOGETHER. AND YOU HAD TO GET THAT PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVED BEFORE YOU COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEP, AND WE CHANGED THAT SECTION OF THE CODE. I THINK IT WAS EARLY TWO THOUSAND'S LATE NINETIES AND THAT KIND OF SPLIT THAT PROCESS APART. SO WE HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR. BUT IT ALL STILL DID THE WHOLE PROCESS. STILL IN THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL. THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T DIVIDE THE APPROVALS, THEREFORE, SO WERE YOU TRYING TO DO I HAVE READ THROUGH THIS SEVERAL TIMES, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THE CONCEPT OF MERGING THE LUMINARY. YEAH, THE ZONING TOGETHER IN ONE LEGISLATIVE. THAT'S SOME PLACE IN THERE. THEY'RE ACTUALLY BE UNDER ENTITLED TO OKAY? PD APPOINTMENT ALL THE CHRISTMAS. AND I WILL TELL YOU OVER THE YEARS I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS
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AND I'M SURE CAN AND KYLE AND ALSO WITH A BUNCH OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE LIKE A SECOND EMPLOYMENT AREAS, NOT THE REASON I MEAN, LITERALLY WERE THE ONLY PLACE IN OHIO. THAT DOESN'T NOT SAYING THAT'S WRONG FOR US. BUT I MEAN, I'VE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH DEVELOPERS WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY OUR PROCESS IS DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY. YOU GOTTA DO. DEVELOPMENT PLAN PRESENTING SEPARATE GETS TURNED DOWN. IT'S SO IT DOES CREATE BY KIND OF MARRYING THESE TWO TOGETHER TO MIRROR WHAT YOU SEE EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE WILL MAKE IT SIMPLER FOR DEVELOPERS TO KIND OF COME TO ENDED. OKAY? YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK RIGHT NOW. ARE YOU NOTICE INTO FIVE GONNA TAKE PART OF THE STATEMENT SAYS AS PART OF THE PLANET EVOLVED AS PART OF THE FORMATIVE PLAN THAT AFRICA MUST PREPARE AND SMITH ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTERS TEXT IDENTIFIES STANDARDS SO THAT TIE IN THERE. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE TWO APPROVALS, RIGHT? THE SO WHAT APPLICATION? YES DEVELOPED PLAN IS THAT WAY, EITHER. YEAH FLUMMERY? YEAH I HAVE A QUESTION MARK ON THAT, TOO. SO THAT BIG PARAGRAPH OF 75 ? YEAH 78 NO TO ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. TEXT SHELBY, SELECTED AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, AND SHALL. ONCE AGAIN, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS PROJECT BECAUSE NOW ZONING PRELIMINARY YOU'RE GOING TO GET MUCH MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN MORE AKIN TO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN NOW AND YOU'LL HAVE THE ZONING WRITING ALONG WITH US. YOU CAN MAKE SURE THE STANDARDS ME THE RESTRICTION TO DISH. W PROBLEMS, BUT TOGETHER JUST GOING BACK TO WORK DISCUSSING BEFORE.MOVING ON. WELL I DIDN'T TO THEM TITLE TO THEN ESTABLISHES STANDARDS FOR DISTRICT THE GOAL AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THESE DISTRICTS WESTERN REDUCE THE NONCONFORMITY IS WHILE ENSURING APPROPRIATE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. CONDITIONAL USES SETBACKS BUILDINGS, ETCETERA OF 42 DISTRICT. SO AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPING, OR IT'S APPLICABLE ACROSS MULTIPLE SILLY DISTRICT TITLE THREE. HOW PROPOSED TITLE TWO IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR CARD PHONE, UM, USES ARE NOTED BASED ON N A. I C S, WHEREAS CURRENTLY S I C S I C IS FROM THE 19 EIGHTIES.
SEVENTH I BELIEVE THAT THIS LOVE THIS SENSE. WHERE IS THE NAME I C S IS UPDATED. I BELIEVE EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS OR SO. SO THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND USES ARE MUCH MORE UPDATED THEIR UPDATED CONSISTENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE FACE A LOT OF CHALLENGES WOULD DO AS EARLY BUSINESSES AND THE ECONOMY CHANGES OR FACING A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE IN 1987 SO, HAVING MORE UPDATED USES TO FALL BACK ON IT CERTAINLY WON'T. WE TRIED TO STRIKE A BALANCE IN TERMS OF THE PERMITTED USES FOR IF YOU'LL BE SPECIFIC DISTRICT STANDARDS. THERE'S A BIT MORE OF A NARRATIVE DESCRIBING WHAT THOSE PERMITTED USES ARE ALONG WITH THE SPECIFIC CODES. SORRY, WE'RE TRYING. TO CAPTURE THE INTENDED CHARACTER USES BUT THEN ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING SPECIFIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THOSE DISTRICTS. AND WE MENTIONED CONDITIONAL NEEDS BEFORE. UM, INITIALLY USES ARE NOTED BY DISTRICT AND THERE ARE SPECIFIC SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS FOR EACH OF THOSE USES BY DISTRICT SO IT IS DIFFERENT FROM HOW WE HANDLE SPECIALTIES RIGHT NOW. PLEASE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 13 AND WE WOULD BE GOING DOWN TWO CERTAINTIES. THE NEW DISTRICTS ARE REALLY CHARACTER DRIVEN. SO SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THE REGULATIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MORE CONTEXTUAL.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, COMMERCIAL HAS A MAXIMUM BLOCK SIZE, SO UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WOULD BE MORE ORIENTED TOWARDS IT. I COULD FEEL AND THEN THE REGULATIONS ARE ORGANIZED BY
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DISTRICT SO YOU FIND THE CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SECTION. YOU COULD PULL THAT OUT, AND BASICALLY, THAT'S YOUR BOOK TO DEVELOP PRODUCTS EDUCATION INSTEAD OF CURRENTLY YOU HAVE TO SORT OF FLIP BACK AND FORTH THROUGH. WHY REPEAT THIS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RULES ARE THAT YOU'RE WORKING UNDER? UM THE IMAGES ON THE BOTTOM I PRESENTED IN 2021. IT WAS BASICALLY JUST TO SHOW CHARACTER EXAMPLES OF EACH OF THE 17 DISTRICTS. THERE'S ALSO BROADWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAYS. WHICH CORRESPONDS ESSENTIALLY TO RHP BOUNDARIES RIGHT NOW, SO WHAT ARE THEY HAVE WE MADE SINCE 2021 ? WE DID, UM, FINALIZE THE, UM, THE TOWN CENTER DISTRICT STANDARDS THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE TAB IN YOUR BOOKLET. IT'S A SEPARATE MEDIA. WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICALLY IN A BIT, BUT IT'S A UNIQUE SET OF STANDARDS THAT A UNIQUE WAY OF LOOKING AT SOMETHING ASIDE FROM THE OTHER DISTRICTS, AND THEN WE ALSO MET AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WITH THE V, A AND DIVERSITY TASK FORCE AND A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITH THOSE GROUPS WAS RELATED TO HOUSING. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT HOW WE CAME TO ZONING EACH PARCEL THE WAY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING CURRENTLY, ESSENTIALLY , WE JUST TOOK OUR BEST GUESS TO START WITH IN TERMS OF WHAT SEEMED TO BE THE MOST LIVABLE DISTRICT WITHIN IDENTIFIED EARLY NONSENSE FOR MITI'S BASED ON THE STANDARDS AS THEY WERE DRAFTED, DETERMINED WAS THAT FORMALLY THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP OR WHERE ? WHERE WE SHOULD THEN CHANGE THE STANDARDS TO REFLECTED, UM, TO BRING THE BRING INTO COMPLIANCE. POVERTY'S THAT WE THOUGHT WERE APPROPRIATE. BUT THEN LEAVING NONCONFORMITY IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THERE WAS WANT TO SAY ABOUT IT. COMPLIANCE. UM JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT IF YOU WERE TO IMPLEMENT THIS TOMORROW. THE THINGS THAT EXIST NOW TODAY GET TO KEEP GOING FOREVER AS LONG AS THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, DIE AND OR DESTROYED BY FIRE BY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE ETCETERA. KIM'S TALKING ABOUT TERMS OF MAKING SOMEBODY'S GET RID OF ON THIS WHEN THE PROPERTY IS THAT REDEVELOPED NEXT PROJECT THAT COMES IN ON THIS DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING TODAY. IT JUST FOCUSES . OKAY NOW WE KNOW WHAT THIS PROPERTY IS REDEVELOPED. THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE STANDARDS.SO THIS WAS AGAIN A PARCEL BY PARCEL REVIEW. REALLY? YEARS IN THE MAKING THAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS WORK JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THE CODE IS GOING TO END IN THE CHARACTER AND THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE ALL COME TO EXPECT. SO THIS IS THAT ZONING COMPARISON? WHETHER I'M HAPPY TO PULL IT UP IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN ACTION. OR THERE'S ONLY TWO IT HERE AND WRITE IT TO EVERYONE. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S ESSENTIALLY YOU CAN CLICK ON ANY DISTRICT IN THE CITY. UM AND SEE WHAT IS CURRENTLY IS OWNED AND WHAT IT WOULD BE SOUND IN THE FUTURE AND HOW THE STANDARDS BEING DIFFERENT OR TRADITIONALLY HAVE PEOPLE STATES. WHAT'S REALITY MOST OF IT. FINE ALRIGHT TOWN CENTER WOULD WANT TO CORRECT BY THE MAP JUST SO WE CAN SEE RIGHT OVER THE YEARS OVER THE YEARS COUNCIL HAS CHANGED SOME REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF SETBACK AREA REQUIREMENTS AND BY DOING THAT, REMEMBER MY FIRST ONE IN THE CITY. THE BRUCE SETBACK WAS A PERCENTAGE. WE WILL TO A HARD NUMBER AND BY DOING THAT CERTAIN PROPERTIES INTO NOT COMPLIANT. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS KIND OF GET EVERYONE BACK INTO THAT NON COMPLIANCE STATE JUST BASED OFF THE 16 DISTRICTS PROPOSING HERE, SO OUR GOAL IS HAVING REALLY MINIMIZE NONCONFORMITY IS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW WE ARE FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN SOMEONE GOES TO GET MORE FUTURE ALONE LOVE THAT KIND OF GETTING TIRED TIED UP IF THERE ARE NO ALONGSIDE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MINIMIZE A LOT OF PRESSURE FEELING TODAY AT SOME POINT. YES THIS WOULD BE A PRIMARY TOOL AS PART OF THE COMPLICATED GET OUT HERE WITH A LOT OF ONCE WE GET YEAH. BIGGEST COMPANIES FROM COUNCIL IN TERMS OF WHAT THE SAME CONTENT THEN WE WILL RELEASE IT TO THE TO THE NUMBERS OF JUST FOR EXAMPLE, CLICKING ON IN A MORE HISTORIC WHERE, YOU KNOW AN OLDER SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY. R TWO IS OUR NARROWEST LOT LINE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A 70 FT WIDE LOT REQUIREMENT. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE ONES ARE 50 AT BEST, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE PRETTY AND THEY'RE JUST VERY SPECIFIC TO BRING THOSE LAWS INTO PERFORMANCE, BRINGING NICELY
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WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. THEY WERE VERY DIFFERENT FROM TRADITIONAL ART, TOO, AND SAY WE'RE CROSSING HER PARTY. OKAY AND THIS I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THIS SIDE OF THINGS. UM LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TO SIT DOWN BY SECTIONS AND CITY AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT AS A GROUP.WE COME CENTER. YEAH, ESPECIALLY TOWN CENTER, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST WE HAVE TO PROBABLY TAKEN SECTION BY SECTION AND SEE IF THERE'S 17. THINGS. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK HERE TO DO. OH, YEAH? IT'S ACTUALLY I MEAN, WE WANT THE RESIDENTS GATHER TO AND I GUESS WHERE I'M STILL CONFUSED. A LITTLE BIT IS DISTRICTS LIKE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW THE BEST 123 AND FOUR DISTRICTS ARE THOSE AREAS OR THEY CAN ELOPEMENT THE AREAS IN THE CITY. THERE'S STILL THE ZONING DISTRICTS AS WE SEE THEM NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, CURRENTLY WE HAVE SF ONE ASSET TO US 03. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY SF THREE PARCELS THAT EXIST IN THE CITY. THERE MIGHT READ US F TWOS , SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE. WE HAVE AN A ONE. WE HAVEN'T A ONE A, BUT NOBODY DEVELOPS UNDER ANYONE. A I THINK THERE'S A THERE'S ANOTHER MULTI FAMILY DISTRICT THAT HAS NO STANDARDS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST SORT OF ORGANIZED AND CONSOLIDATE. WHAT CAN THE EXAMPLE OF A COMPANY IS GOOD, EXCEPT FOR RIGHT THROUGH SF ONE DEVELOPMENT BY OUR STANDARDS ARE STANDARDS. PERFECT SF ONE WASN'T EVEN A DISTRICT UNTIL THE NINETIES USED TO BE WHEN THINGS RIGHT LIKE STANLEY CAME IN. IT ARE ONE OR TWO. I BELIEVE SO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT JUST HOW DIFFERENT THOSE STANDARDS ARE BETWEEN AN SF ONE GIRL ESSENTIALLY LOT VERSUS NOR ONES VERY DIFFERENT AT THE TIME, BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION ON THE CONDITIONAL USES THAT YOU HAVE THE SAME ONE FOR EACH OF THAT. AH, MM. TWO DISTRICTS ON HERE. COMMUNITY RESIDENCES ON THEIR CONDITIONAL USE COMMUNITY RESIDENCES IS THAT COMMUNITY RESIDENTS LIKE THE GROUP HOMELESS ON MCDONALD? YES I BELIEVE SO. THE ANY AREA OF THE CITY THERE ARE 1234. I WANT TO LOOK AT IT. I WILL TELL YOU UNDER STATE LAWS DRAFTED THE STATE MADE THEM PERMITTED USE THAT EVERY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN THE STATE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT'S THE SMALL ONES, WHICH IS ONE THROUGH FIVE LARGE ONES, WHICH IS 63 15. I THINK, UM THEY MISTAKE IS ALREADY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON NUMBER HAS ALREADY MADE THAT DETERMINATION THAT THESE ARE PERMITTED USE IN ANY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. IF IT IT MIGHT BE THE MULTI FAMILY DISTRICT LARGER ONE. BUT FIRST FOR THE SMALL ONES. FRANKLY WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN REGULATE THE SPACING ON IT. IF YOU LOST THAT FIGHT EXACTLY THE REASON WHY THE CHILD CARE. CONDITIONAL USES IN EACH 1 TO 6 CHILDREN. IT'S AN INTENSITY , RIGHT? I MEAN, AT THAT POINT, IT COULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S ALLOWING A BUSINESS WITHIN THE HOME. YES, AND RIGHT NOW, BY LAW, YOU CAN DO THAT. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE AREA. THERE ARE CERTAIN STATE REGULATIONS THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN HOME CHILD HERE, OKAY? READY. SLIDES. SO I THINK OF A BIG POINT OF DISCUSSION OF THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE TONIGHT IS HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. I CAN'T GO TO ANY PRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOT TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF MULTI FAMILY HOUSING AND GROW CITY OR THE REGION RIGHT NOW AND SO JUST TO SORT OF SET THE FRAMEWORK RIGHT NOW, AS PROPOSED, THERE ARE TWO MULTIFAMILY INDUSTRIES ARE THREE ARE FOR YOU. VERY POWERFUL BOARD . WE CREATED THEM TO ESSENTIALLY IN COMPASS EXISTING CONDITIONS, BUT THERE IS A NOTE ON BOTH OF THEM. THAT SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT CREATE ANY PARCELS. SO THESE DISTRICTS ESSENTIALLY ENCOMPASSING EXISTING PATTERNS, BUT NO MORE. SO WHY DID WE DO THIS? REALLY? BECAUSE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE REVIEWED THAT UTILIZE THE STANDARDS AND THE DENSITIES IN THE COUNCIL AND SETBACKS. AND NOT BEING FAVORABLY. UM AND WE AS STAFF COULD NOT DRAFT STANDARDS THAT WE FELT CONFIDENT WOULD BE SUPPORTED MARKET PROJECTS. SO UM, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY MULTI FAMILY HAS THE OPTION TO GO THROUGH PD THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY PLANS AND ZONING
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TEXT. UM BUT NOT HAVING VIBRATE STRAIGHT ZONE DISTRICT FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN FLAGGED FROM THE V A S BEING EXCLUSIONARY PRACTICE THAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND. I'M JUST HOW DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND MARKET DEMAND IS CHANGING, UM, SCARED. THEY FELT IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A DISTRICT SET STANDARDS WHERE A DEVELOPER CAN COME IN AND BUILD MULTI FAMILY, SO THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING IS HOW DO WE DO THAT? RIGHT WHAT STANDARDS IS PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL COMFORTABLE APPROVING IN TERMS OF THESE STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY, I KNOW DENSITY IS A NUMBER THAT IS FREQUENTLY THROWN OUT. UM THERE'S 3.23 PROJECTS THAT HAVE VERY HIGH DENSITY 0.2 NOT SO GREAT PROJECTS THAT HAVE PRETTY LOW DENSITY. IN THE END, IT COMES DOWN REALLY, TO HOW IT'S DESIGNED TO THE STANDARDS UTILIZED. SO ONE IDEA THAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS MAYBE HAVE A MULTI FAMILY DISTRICT. IT DOESN'T MENTION DENSITY. IT JUST MENTIONED SETBACKS AND MAXIMUM HEIGHT, SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GETTING TO THE DENSITY AND THE CHARACTER COMFORT LEVEL WITHOUT POINTING TO THAT ONE RANDOM NUMBER BECAUSE REALLY THE SIDEBAR HERE, WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR EXISTING A ONE AND 818 DEVELOPMENTS AND MOST THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM DO NOT MEET ANYONE STANDARDS IN TERMS OF DENSITY. THEY'RE ACTUALLY FAR DENSER THAN THE UNITS BREAKER. OR IT USED TO BE 10 UNITS PER A PARENTAL 93 20 CHANGE VOTED DOWN STADIUM.THAT'S BREAKER, SO I THINK WE'RE KIND OF A CHALLENGE OF KIND OF A COMFORT LEVEL WITH WHAT WE SEE, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE REGULATIONS CURRENTLY TO SUPPORT THAT. SO, UM. CONTINUING DOWN THAT LINE. MORE MORE COMMENTS SO WE RECEIVED ON THIS CURRENT DRAFT WITH THE B I A JUST IN TERMS OF STATES, NOT MESSING WITH TODAY'S MARKET DEMANDS LOST SIZES, LIVE COVERAGE CONCERNS, SO I'M LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DIFFICULT DISCUSSION, RIGHT? DO WE CONTINUE DOWN OUR CURRENT PATH, NOTING THAT MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS WILL REQUIRE A NEW PD DEVELOPED, UM, THAT DOES TAKE EXTRA TRACTORS STAFF. THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF CERTAINTY WITH DEVELOPERS. THEY DISCUSS THIS OR DO THAT ALL OF THE STANDARDS BASED ON RECENT PROJECTS THAT YOU KNOW WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF, SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE MAXIMUM HEIGHTS. WE RECOGNIZE CARE OR A LOT LESS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. MAYBE WE HAVE A LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY THAT'S SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE KIND OF EJECTS EVERY DONE. HAVE A HIGHER DISK PEOPLE FAMILY WAS MORE OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AT ALL, THEN THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN KICKING MYSELF AND ONE OF THE PRIMARY DISCUSSIONS THAT I WANTED TO HAVE THIS GROUP.
OBVIOUSLY NO DECISIONS HAVE TO BE FATED DAY, BUT I WOULD WELCOME EVERYONE'S WORK WHEN WE PRESENTED TO THE DIVERSITY TASK FORCE. THIS WAS A MAJOR POINT OF THE DISCUSSION WAS KIND OF DIVERSITY, HOUSING APARTMENTS. UM SO WE'RE WE HAVEN'T ANYTHING BACK FROM THEM IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE LOVE THAT MEETING WITH UNDERSTAND THAT WAS THEIR ACTION ITEM WAS THE KIND OF GIVE US SOME SOME GUIDANCE. WHERE DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD PUSH WHERE YOU THINK WE SHOULD NOT PUSH AND JUST KIND OF INSIGHT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE IS ALL DIFFERENT FAMILY AND APARTMENTS. THE SAME THING, RIGHT? UM WE CANNOT LEGALLY DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN BRITTLE AND OWNER OCCUPIED. MULTI FAMILY IS KIND OF AN EMAIL DEPARTMENT DID LEGALLY. IT'S MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO I'M JUST TAKING AN EXAMPLE. WE'VE HAD APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE CONDOMINIUM BUYERS. ANOTHER SIDE. PROBABLY THE FLIP CAN ALSO BE SAID IT STARTED OUT AS THE CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT BUT HAS SINCE BEEN RENTED OUT. SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHEN WE LOOK AT ANY POINT IN MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS JUST THE CHARACTER OF IT. WHETHER IT'S FRENCH OR OWNER OCCUPIED. WE CAN'T SING. WHY DOES A PIECE OF THAT? I MEAN IN THE END, THAT'S HOW IS IT CAN BE. IT'S HOW THE UNDERLYING OWNERSHIP IS. HOWEVER I WILL TELL YOU I'VE HEARD A LOT OF VARIOUS DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES . WE HAVE APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING CONDO IZED AND VICE VERSA . FRANKLY MOST DON'T INCOME DON'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN TWO.
THEY JUST LOOK AT ITS MULTI FAMILY. TIME SET OF STOLEN MONTHS AGO FOR APARTMENT CONDO.
VICE VERSA, CONDO APARTMENTS MUCH HARDER. JUST BECAUSE OF THE LAND IS PART OF IT, BECAUSE YOUR OWN BASICALLY FOR WALLS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY GO FROM APARTMENT, TWO CONDO AND, FRANKLY, UNDER THE ZONING CODE. IT'S REALLY IRRELEVANT. IN TERMS OF HOW THE CITY WOULD VIEW AND AT LEAST THAT'S HOW IT IS THAT MOST OF OUR COMMUNITIES IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN WE DO A SINGLE
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FAMILY SUBDIVISION. ULTIMATELY THERE WILL BE SOME UNICENTER ABOUT WILL BE RENTED OUT. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST WE CAN'T AS A ZOOMING PERSPECTIVE. WE CANNOT REGULATE THE BASE OF OWNERSHIP.IT'S BASED ON THE USE OF THE LAND OF THE OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND. WXYZ MULTI FAMILY HOUSING , TOO, THAT'S CONSIDERED MULTI FAMILY. WELL FOR THIS, JUST THERE'S A SEPARATE TO FAMILY DISTRICT TENNIS CODE, SO IT WOULD NOT CALL IT THE SAME STANDARDS IS MORE THAN TWO. YES.
I WAS SURPRISED IN OUR 400 OFFICIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. TRADITIONAL SYSTEM OF THAT THERE WASN'T A SPECIFICATION UNLESS I MISSED IT FOR SPRINKLER SYSTEM REQUIRED ON THIS LARGER DEVELOPMENT. THESE LARGER. COME DISCOVER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU BUILDING, SO THAT'S TAKEN CARE EXTERNALLY. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S IN 15 UNDER THE BUILDING SECTION OF OUR OKAY . ALL RIGHT, NEXT ONE, MAKE SURE THOSE HOPING YES, TURKEY, BUT THEY ALSO JUST ROSES. YES IT'S WHAT METRIC GREAT. THAT'S GREAT. I HEAR THE BUZZ LAVA AND THREE BETTER INDUSTRY. PRESIDENT STEVE APARTMENTS. MUST BE SOLD STATEMENT OR UNDERSTANDING THE GUEST BEDROOM. IT'S ECONOMICALLY HURTING THE CITY. ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU WILL. MOLITOR'S THAT'S NOT A . AND THE PURPOSE EQUATION. NO, WE DON'T. WE DON'T REALLY ZONE FOR THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. THAT'S JUST THINKING THAT SOMEONE COULD COME IN. TO A HOUSE IN PREVENTION. OKAY OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH BUILDING CODE AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT FROM A PROPER TEXT PERSPECTIVE TO APARTMENT GENERATES A HIGHER RATE TO RETURN PROPERTY TAX THAT I'M SINGLE FAMILY DOES IT. MR SINGER'S FAMILY MOST OF THE TIME THAT DISCUSSION DEALS WITH ARE YOU, INCLUDING MORE KIDS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR APARTMENTS, APARTMENTS PER UNIT AND PUTTING LESS. THEIR IMPACT. SCHOOLS IS LESS THAN SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS. EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE DENSER. THEY TEND TO PRODUCE LESS CHILDREN FROM THE SCHOOL. THAT'S WHERE THAT ISSUE COMES OUT. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT SCHOOL DISTRICT POSITIVE JOB, BUT THAT'S USUALLY RIGHT HERE THAT DISCUSSION YESTERDAY BEDROOMS, IT WENT BACK TO SCHOOL DISTRICT BACK. YEAH BUT THEY LIKE I SAID, IF YOU LOOK AT ANY STUDY, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS ONE. I'LL AND I HAD THIS DISCUSSION. EARLIER DEPARTMENTS PRODUCED LESS CHILDREN AND SINGLE FAMILY DATED, BUT WHEN I WAS DOING ALL THAT IT WAS ABOUT 0.6 CHILDREN FOR APARTMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO SOMETHING WAS WORKING. 1.8 DEPENDANTS 1.83 POINTS. 2.7. BUT WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SOMETHING THAT APPEARS YEAH, WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SWELL AND SENT ME HERE AT SEVEN. THEY MAY 30 BECAUSE WE TOLD THEM THAT WE WERE GOING TO A. SEVEN. WHAT PRICE IS REALLY GOING BACK TO WHAT? I STARTED THE PRESENTATION WITH LOOKING, IF YOU THINK THE CHART THAT I SHOWED BEFORE SHOWS THAT WE SORT OF STOPPED DEMANDING CODE IS THE MENTAL LATE NINETIES, RIGHT? SO THAT WAS IT SPECIFICALLY, I THINK ARE MULTI FAMILY DENSITY WAS SAID IN 93 WHEN PRETENDING TO STATE BREAKER. SO LET'S LOOK AT WHAT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS FOR EVENTS COMPARED TO NOW AND THEN WHEN YOU THINK GENERALLY GENERATIONALLY THAT WAS 30 YEARS AGO. SO WHAT DO THINGS LOOK LIKE? 30 YEARS BEFORE 93 VERY DIFFERENT, RIGHT. SO IN TERMS OF MY MINDSET AND THINKING ABOUT HOW GENERALLY GENERATIONALLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS CHANGE SEEMS LIKE AT EVERY 30 YEARS, SO THERE'S JUST KIND OF THIS GENERAL COMFORT LEVEL OF DENSITY WATCH THAT CORRESPOND WITH A LOT OF WHAT WE WERE APPROVING IN THE MENTAL LATE NINETIES. THAT DOESN'T REALLY JIVE WITH WHAT THE CURRENT MARKET DEMAND IS PROBABLY OUGHT TO KICK ABOUT WRAPPING THIS UP TONIGHT. SINCE WE HAVE ANOTHER BEACH IN YEARS. SEVEN SEEING WHAT YOU WANT TO
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START WITH, ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD BREAK. UM, THESE SLIDES TONIGHT, PLEASE, THANKS. JUST BACKING UP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE LAST SUBJECT. ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT? OKAY ALRIGHT. THINK ABOUT IT. ALRIGHT CLIFF HANGER, ABSOLUTELY IT. THERE'S ALSO SOME ISSUES IN HERE. SUSTAINABILITY YOU SHOULD GO, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, CANOPY COVERED THE CITY. HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT ON THE DEVELOPERS AND TITLE THREE INFLUENCE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. A LOT OF SUSTAINABILITY BETWEEN TITLES THREE AND. FOUR. ONE LAST QUESTION FOR ME INCLUDED FOR DISSOLVE PERCENT REQUIREMENT CHARGING STATIONS. THAT'S ONE OF MY MAGIC CRATE BOXES UNDER TITLE THREE PARKING REGULATIONS. GET OUT THERE ON! HOW DID THEY GET TO HOTEL WHERE WE ARE FINISHED? THIS YEAH, I'M GONNA CHRISTINE CHRISTINE. LET'S ADJOURN. AND THEN ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS HERE? ALRIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE HERE TOMORROW AT 5 30. ANY QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE ABOUT WHAT WE DISCUSSED