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PUT ON OUR MICROPHONES. ALL RIGHTY. IT'S EXACTLY 530, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING OF
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THE GROVE CITY BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS TO ORDER. AND WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL. MR. BRANDT. HERE HALINGA. HERE. MR. HAHN. HERE. OKAY AND THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE RISE.FACE THE FLAG AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO DO SETTLE THEM. BY PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. NEXT
[C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR APRIL 22ND MEETING OF THE BOARD OF. SO MOVE . MR. BRANDT. YES YES. MR. HAHN? YES. OKAY THOSE ARE APPROVED. AND THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS[D.1. Hear the appeal of Anthony Ciminello, Ciminello’s Design Build for 1646 Pinnacle Club Dr., Parcel #040-0137650, representing Greg Taylor, the property owner for the following variances.]
IS HEAR THE APPEAL OF ANTHONY. SALMONELLA. SALMONELLA DESIGN BUILD FOR 1646 PINNACLE CLUB DRIVE. PARCEL. NUMBER 0400 137 650. REPRESENTING A GREG TAYLOR FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES AS IT RELATES TO SECTION 1135 .10 TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF AN ATTACHED AND DETACHED GARAGE COMBINED OF 9900FT■!S BY 1720 FE SQUARE FEET, FOR A TOTAL COMBINED GARAGE SPACE OF 2625FT■!S. AND TO BE, AS IT RELATES TO SECTION 11, 37.08 H TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM WALL HEIGHT FOR DETACHED GARAGE OF EIGHT FEET BY 12FT, FOR A TOTAL WALL HEIGHT OF 20FT. AND SEE AS IT RELATES TO SECTION 1137 .08 H TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM GARAGE ROOF HEIGHT OF 13FT BY 19FT, FOR A TOTAL OVERALL HEIGHT OF 32FT AND, WE HAVE A SPEAKER SIGNED UP. ANTHONY CIMINELLA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT YOUR CASE, PLEASE? HERE. CAN WE SWEAR HIM IN, PLEASE? CAN WE SWEAR HIM IN? OH YEAH. I'M SORRY. YEAH. WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN. ANTHONY, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH? NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU. OKAY SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. TAYLOR PURCHASED LOT 448. OFF OF A PRIVATE PUBLIC PROPERTY. SO THE PROJECT STARTED, WHEN MR. TAYLOR BOUGHT LOT 448 FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER, WHO HAD BOUGHT IT AND PLANNED TO BUILD A HOUSE THERE AND CHOSE NOT TO, HE HAS HIS OWN CAR COLLECTION. HE'S GOT TWO TEENAGE KIDS WHO ARE DRIVING, RIGHT NOW, HE, YOU KNOW, DESCRIBES HIS, DRIVEWAY AS MORE OF A PARKING LOT, ESPECIALLY ALONG PINNACLE CLUB DRIVE, JUST WITH PEOPLE DRIVING QUICK DOWN THERE. THEY DON'T LIKE TO PARK THEIR CARS ON THE STREET. THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD, ONE MORE GARAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE AS WELL AS A SPACE FOR COMING OFF OF THE POOL TO TAKE SHOWERS, DO THEIR TOWEL, POOL, LAUNDRY, AND SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME ABOUT THIS STRUCTURE HERE, THE THREE CAR GARAGE WITH THE COMMON AREA UPSTAIRS, WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSE REALLY REPRESENTS AND COMPLEMENT THE ARCHITECTURE OF OR. EXCUSE ME, THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE GARAGE COMPLIMENTS THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSE. EXCUSE ME. SO THAT'S WHY, WE ENDED UP WITH THOSE VARIANCES OF WALL HEIGHTS, AS WELL AS OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE IDEA WAS WITH PUSHING IT OVER ONTO LOT 448 AND USING THE EXISTING CURB CUT THAT WE'RE REALLY DESIGNING IT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT IS, ALL BUILT IN 2015. WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT, IT WAS ONE ESTATE, A LARGE HOUSE BUILT ON TWO LOTS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST A FREESTANDING GARAGE THAT WE KIND OF THREW ON THE SIDE THERE. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S MASS MATCHED THE MASS OF THE EXISTING GARAGE, THE TWO CAR[00:05:01]
GARAGE. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT BIG MASS AS WELL ON THE GARAGE, COMPLIMENT IT WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR DORMERS, OUR METAL ROOF. THAT'S GOING ON THERE, AND THEN THE BACK END OF THE HOUSE, IS GOING TO BE JUST A LARGE COVERED PATIO AGAIN TO COMPLEMENT THE POOL AREA. IT'S MR. TAYLOR'S INTENTION TO, IF YOU GO BACK, SORRY TO THE PLOT PLAN. IF POSSIBLE, THAT HE IS GOING TO EXTEND HIS FENCE LINE DOWN, THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S KIND OF OUTLINED. JOGGING AROUND THE POOL RIGHT NOW. HE WOULD TAKE IT ALL THE WAY BACK, TAKE THE JOGS OUT, TAKE IT DOWN THROUGH THE BACK OF OUR 25 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT LINE, STOPPING IT SHORT OF THE STORM SEWER TURNING IT UP, GOING SOUTH DOWN HIS PROPERTY AND THEN DYING IT INTO THE BACK CORNER OF THE GARAGE, JUST BELOW THE VACANT LOT SIGN THERE. SO HE WOULD RETURN IT THERE AND THEN HE'S PLANNING ON TAKING THE EXISTING ARBOR VITIS THAT HE HAS GROWN OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS, ALONG HIS EXISTING FENCE LINE, AND PUTTING THOSE ALONG THE NEW FENCE LINE. SO IT'LL BE NICE SCREENING. YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO SEE THE BLACK SIX FOOT POOL FENCE THAT HE HAS, AND ALONG WITH TRANSFERRING THOSE ARE PROVIDES HE WANTS TO DO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, LAND SCAPE, WHICH I THINK WAS IN SOME OF THE NOTES FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING A LARGER BED OFF TO THE EAST THERE TO MAKE SURE IT STARTS TO INFILL THE LOT A LITTLE BIT. SO IT'S JUST NOT THE HOUSE, THE GARAGE AND THEN A LARGE PATCH OF GRASS. WE WOULD WANT TO FRAME IT ALL IN AGAIN TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S ONE ESTATE BUILT ON TWO LOTS, NOT JUST A HOUSE WITH AN ACCESSORY GARAGE BUILT TEN YEARS LATER. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT LED US TO SOME OF OUR VARIANCES THAT WE'RE GOING FOR. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, THE FIRST QUESTION IS, I TAKE IT THAT THE PINNACLE HAS A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. HAVE YOU RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE HOMEOWNERS? SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD THROUGH PINNACLE. OKAY. AND THAT IS THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH TO GET THEIR APPROVAL. THEIR, IT CHECKS THOSE BOXES. THAT'S KIND OF STEP ONE TO GET THAT APPROVAL. AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT SOME OF THOSE NOTES BACK BASED ON LANDSCAPING, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS LANDSCAPED PROPERLY, AND IT IS A NOTE IN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARDS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK WITH THEM WITH OUR FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WITH IT, TO MAKE SURE IT ALL LOOKS OKAY.BUT YOU BUT YOU DO HAVE APPROVAL FOR THE BUILDING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW. NOW, RATHER THAN WITH THE LANDSCAPING, THOUGH I HAVE A QUESTION NOT OF YOU, BUT OF LAURA, WILL THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A VARIANCE AS IT RELATES TO THE LANDSCAPING, OR DO YOU THINK OR IS IT WITHIN THE, ZONING CODE? WHAT WHAT HE HAS PROPOSED FOR THAT? WELL, THAT'S NOT REALLY AN APPEAL ON APPEAL HERE. WE REALLY HAVE THREE ITEMS ON APPEAL. BUT SINCE YOU RAISED THE ISSUE, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. NO, THE LANDSCAPE THING WOULD BE, IT COULD BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED, THERE'S NO ISSUES, I DON'T BELIEVE IT. COME BEFORE BCA. I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL. OKAY. BUT IT'S SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERN THEN, ABOUT WHAT HE RAISED WITH THAT? NOT AT THIS TIME, NO. OKAY WELL, IF HE DOES, THEN HE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO US. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME OF THAT INTO THE RECORD. THE, THE PART OF THE PINNACLE THAT THIS IS BUILT IN IS THE ESTATES. AND THEN THE OVERALL, MAJOR HOA, WHICH I'M PRESIDENT OF, OVERSEES THE WHOLE THING. BUT THE PINNACLE HAS THE PINNACLE ESTATES PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT, HAS ITS OWN REVIEW BOARD AND OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE. SO THE FENCE NEEDS TO BE A BLACK ALUMINUM ANODIZED FENCE. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. SO THEY BOTH THE THINGS COORDINATE WITH ONE ANOTHER. BUT AS FAR AS ARCHITECTURALLY OF THE HOUSING, IT'S THE WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY EVEN RELEVANT TO THE THREE ITEMS WE HAVE IN APPEAL RIGHT NOW. I WAS JUST CURIOUS, THAT'S WHY I ASKED LAURA WHETHER, WE WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE LANDSCAPING. THE ONLY THREE ITEMS WE'RE DEALING WITH ARE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE AREA HEIGHT, AND THE ROOF HEIGHT. SO I NEVER DID. SO NOT THAT THE HOME. DID THEY GIVE YOU APPROVAL FOR THE STRUCTURE? THE. YOU'RE STILL IN THAT PROCESS. THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD? NO THEY DID. THAT WAS STEP ONE. BUT THEY THERE IS AN ITEM ON THERE THAT IS A
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LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND THEY DO IT REALLY FOR EVERY NEW BUILD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE GO BACK WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD TO MAKE SURE IT CHECKS ALL THEIR BOXES. BECAUSE EVEN ON THE NEW BUILDS, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN FOR THEIR LANDSCAPE PACKAGE. WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND SO THAT IS A CHECK.AND THAT WAS A STIPULATION FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD THAT WE WILL TAKE THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN BACK TO THEM FOR THEIR SIGN OFF. BUT WE DID AGREE TO A MINIMUM. SET OF LIKE A MINIMUM LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT THAT WE AGREED TO. AND WE'RE PLANNING ON EXCEEDING THAT AS WELL, AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION PROBABLY FOR MIKE OR LAURA, IT SAYS AS A PROPOSED GARAGE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S A THAT'S A FULL LIVING SPACE THAT'S LIKE A HOUSE. DOES IT JUST STILL FALL UNDER THE GARAGE? YEAH. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON THE HOUSE. OKAY.
LOT. OKAY, AND BECAUSE IT THEY'RE MATCHING THE EXISTING HOME, THEY TOOK TWO LOTS, COMBINED THEM INTO ONE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY ONE DRIVEWAY APPROACH THAT'LL BE HERE. AND THERE WOULD BE A SEPARATE WATER AND SEWER TAP FOR THIS BUILDING ONLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TEAR UP THE DRIVEWAY TO GET ANOTHER WATER TAP IN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'D HAVE TO DO AND GET THE SEWER OVER THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, YES, IT LOOKS LIKE AND FEELS LIKE AND SEEMS LIKE TWO SEPARATE STRUCTURES, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER THIS WAY BECAUSE IT'S ONE LOT. SO THAT COULDN'T BE SOLD OFF OR ANYTHING AS SEPARATE, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY WELL DONE. YEAH. I QUESTION , BOTH THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN COMBINED INTO ONE PARCEL. YES OKAY. THAT WAS DONE QUICKLY. I THINK THAT'S WHY IS THE NEED SO MANY CARS? I DON'T KNOW, JUST KIDDING. WELL, MAYBE THAT'S WHY HE SENT ME SO HE DIDN'T HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. LIKE YOU, THOUGH. YES YES, YES. SO THOSE PEOPLE TRY TO DOWNSIZE WHEN THEIR KIDS GET SO OLD, LEGAL QUESTION. I ASSUME WE NEED TO TAKE ALL THREE OF THESE ITEMS AS SEPARATE ITEMS. YEAH. OKAY.
PLEASE. OKAY. I WOULD, AS IT, IN REGARD TO THE APPEAL OF ANTHONY. SALMONELLA, SALMONELLA DESIGN BUILD FOR, 1646 PINNACLE CLUB DRIVE, PARCEL NUMBER 0400 137 650, REPRESENTING GREG TAYLOR, THE PROPERTY OWNER, FOR THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES. THE FIRST VARIANCE IS, AS IT RELATES TO SECTION 1135 .108 TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR AN ATTACHED AND DETACHED GARAGE COMBINED OF NINE SQUARE FEET BY 1720 FIVE SQUARE FEET, FOR A TOTAL COMBINED GARAGE SPACE OF 2625FT■!S. SECOND. MR. BRANDT? YES, YES. MR. HAHN. YES, THE. OKAY. I LIKE TO BACKTRACK. I GUESS WE'RE HERE. LORD. DID DID YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE FROM ME? NEIGHBORS I HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND WHO JUST WANTED TO SEE THE INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE. SO SHE DID GO THERE AND REVIEW IT. OKAY. A LOT OF NEIGHBORS READ THE LANDSCAPING. OKAY? OKAY OKAY. THE SECOND MOTION IS TO APPROVE US. MOTION THAT RELATES TO SECTION 1135 1137 .08 H TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM WALL HEIGHT FOR A DETACHED GARAGE OF EIGHT FEET BY 12FT, FOR A TOTAL OF 20FT OF THE SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT. THIS IS YOU DON'T WANT TO BE MR. BRANDT? YES YES, YES. AND THE THIRD VARIANCE, WHICH IS AS, AS IT RELATES TO SECTION 1137 .08 H TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM GARAGE ROOF HEIGHT OF 13FT BY 19FT, FOR A TOTAL OVERALL HEIGHT OF 32FT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? MR. BRANDT? YES YES. MR. HAHN YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO YOUR VARIANCE HAVE BEEN, GRANTED, JUST AS A HEADS UP, THERE'S A, A PROCEDURE WHERE TOWN COUNCIL CAN REVERSE OUR DECISION. SO IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THERE BE A 21 DAY WAITING PERIOD FOR THEM TO REVIEW IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THAT. AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE THAT CONSTRUCTION SHOULD START WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. SO,
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YEAH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO OKAY, YOU'RE VARIANCE HAS BEEN GRANTED. IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS? NO, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO CHECK ON THE NEXT MEETING DATE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM. JUNE 24TH, MONDAY, JUNE 24TH. I'M OKAY. I MAY BE OUT OF TOWN, I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT. I HAVE TO CONSULT WITH MY WIFE. I SHOULD BE HERE. OKAY OH, GEEZ. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING OF THE GROVE CITY APPEALS BOARD. THANK YOU. THANK