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          EVERYONE. IT'S 130. WELCOME TO THE GROVE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. AND WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL. MR. ROCK. MISS WEMLINGER HERE, CHAIR OYSTER. HERE MR. FARNSWORTH HERE. MR. TITUS HERE. AND IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AMEN I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLANNING COMMISSION HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE PRIOR 
          [C. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES – May 7, 2024]
MEETING MINUTES, WHICH ARE FROM MAY 7TH. IF THERE ARE NO DISCUSSION ITEMS BY PLANNING COMMISSION, WE'LL BE READY FOR A MOTION CHAIR. I MAKE THE MOTION. WE APPROVE LAST MONTH'S MEETING MINUTES. SECOND ROLL CALL, MISS WEMLINGER. YES, CHAIR. ROYSTER YES, MR. FARNSWORTH? YES, MR. TITUS. YES ALL RIGHT. TODAY WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WHEN YOUR ITEM IS CALLED. IF YOU OR THE APPLICANT COULD STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. IT CAN BE YOUR HOME OR YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS. AND THEN AFTER YOU'VE DONE THAT, PLEASE JUST WAIT AT THE PODIUM AS THE CITY WILL OUTLINE SOME BACKGROUND REGARDING YOUR APPLICATION. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A TIME OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. SO, IF THERE IS AFTER THAT, WE'LL ASK PLANNING COMMISSION WILL PROVIDE SOME QUESTIONS. WE'LL HAVE SOME, BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION. AND THEN BEFORE BEFORE WE VOTE, WE'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL CALL ON YOU TO COME DOWN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AS WELL. AND WE DO THAT FOR THE RECORD. AND WE ASK THAT, THOSE BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EACH, DUE TO OUR TIME CONSTRAINTS. ITEM NUMBER ONE, ROSE CASTRO REZONING. GOOD 
          [1. APPLICATION: Rose Castro – Rezoning]
AFTERNOON. PATRICK CASTRO, HOME ADDRESS, 4016 ARBUTUS AVENUE, GROVE CITY, OHIO, HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE, PARCEL WE OWN ON ROSE AVENUE. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REZONE 0.189 ACRES ON ROSE AVENUE FROM R2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO PDR. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL WITH A ZONING TEXT. A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DISAPPROVAL BY PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022 MEETING AND DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL AT THE NOVEMBER 21ST, 2022 MEETING. DURING THESE MEETINGS, CONCERNS WERE VOICED OVER SEVERAL ITEMS OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, INCLUDING THE NUMBER OF UNITS, BUILDING PLACEMENT ON SITE AND PARKING. THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A REZONING APPLICATION IN FEBRUARY OF 2023, AND THIS APPLICATION WAS TABLED IN MARCH OF 2023. EVENTUALLY THIS APPLICATION WAS WITHDRAWN AT THE SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND SINCE THIS TIME THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED THE APPLICATION TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED TO TWO BY REMOVING THE DWELLING UNIT FROM ABOVE THE PROPOSED GARAGE. THE GROVE CITY 2050 COMMUNITY LAND USE AND CHARACTER MAP DESIGNATES THIS PARCEL AS TOWN CENTER CORE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH LISTS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS A PRIMARY USE TOWN CENTER CORE NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO PROMOTES A VARIETY OF BUILDING TYPES AND HOUSING, WITH DETACHED GARAGES LOCATED OFF REAR ALLEYS, AND THE PROPOSED APPLICATION IS IN LINE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE GOALS IDENTIFIED IN THE GROVE CITY 2050 COMMUNITY PLAN. THE PROPOSED TAX PERMITS ONE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE CONTAINING TWO RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS AND A CARRIAGE HOUSE GARAGE WITH STORAGE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, FOR A TOTAL OF TWO UNITS. THE PROPOSED GARAGE IS TO BE ACCESSED FROM THE ALLEY ALONG THE REAR OF THE LOT. LIKE OTHER DETACHED GARAGES IN THE TOWN CENTER AREA, THE TEXT ALSO STATES THAT NO CURB CUT SHALL BE PERMITTED ON THE ROSE AVENUE AND PARKING FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT BE LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE GARAGE. SETBACKS. 
          ESTABLISHED IN THE ZONING TEXT FOR THE DUPLEX STRUCTURE ARE 26FT FROM THE FRONT, SETBACK FROM ROSE AVENUE, AND SIDE SETBACKS OF 14FT. THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WILL BE SET BACK 30FT FROM THE ALLEY AND REQUIRE SIDE SETBACKS OF SEVEN FEET. ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS ARE INCLUDED IN THE TEXT TO ENSURE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT ON SITE, AND THE TEXT STATES THE ELEVATION 
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FRONTING ON ROSE AVENUE MUST CONTAIN AT LEAST THREE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS PER THE TEXT, THE HOME IS TO BE FINISHED WITH FINAL VERTICAL BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING IN GRAY OR OTHER NEUTRAL EARTH TONES. THE PROPOSED TRIM ON THE HOUSE IS TO BE COLORS COMPLEMENTARY TO THE SIDING. MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE DUPLEX STRUCTURE IS TO BE 35FT, AND THE CARRIAGE HOUSE IS PROPOSED TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 28FT. AS THE PROPOSED LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE ZONING TEXT ARE IN LINE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE AREA AS IDENTIFIED IN THE GROVE CITY 2050 COMMUNITY PLAN. AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING AS SUBMITTED. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS THIS IS FOR REZONING. YOU'LL STAY UP FOR THE NEXT. YES DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ZONING PORTION OF IT, DO YOU HAVE IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MENTION, WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF IT BEING TABLED LAST YEAR AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON, FEEDBACK FROM PLANNING COMMISSION, FEEDBACK FROM DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, FEEDBACK FROM THE, NEIGHBORHOODS NOT WANTING THREE UNITS ON A LOT, WE REDUCED IT TO TWO UNITS ON THE LOT, WE ARE IN LINE WITH THE 2050 PLAN FOR GROVE CITY, IS WHAT WAS JUST MENTIONED IS IT IS THE TOWN CENTER CORE IS MULTIFAMILY AND THERE'S A NEED FOR IT. THERE'S A NEED NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN GROVE CITY RIGHT NOW, IS THAT GOING TO GET BETTER? WHO KNOWS? BUT THERE'S A NEED. WE'RE GRADUATING OVER 800 KIDS FROM TWO HIGH SCHOOLS WITHIN TWO MILES OF THIS BUILDING. WHERE ARE THOSE KIDS GOING TO LIVE? IF THERE'S NOT APARTMENTS FOR THEM TO MOVE INTO, OR OR AGING IN PLACE, WE'RE BUILDING, LARGE RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES EVERYWHERE. THIS DESIGN FOR FIRST FLOOR LIVING, FOR SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO STAY IN GROVE CITY BUT CAN'T MAINTAIN THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOME ANYMORE AND NOT WANT TO MOVE INTO AN APARTMENT BUILDING. VERY GOOD, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS IS NOT ONLY DID WE REMOVE THE THIRD UNIT, WE MOVED ALL THE PARKING TO THE BACK, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS COMPLAINED ABOUT PARKING ON THE STREET BY NOT DOING THE CURB CUTS. WE'RE KEEPING TWO PARKING SPOTS ON THE STREET FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO USE FOR THE NEW PEOPLE TO USE. BUT ALL THE PARKING IS PRIMARILY IN THE BACK, AND THE SERVICE WILL BE TO THE BACK, THAT WILL CUT DOWN ON CARS GOING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, IT IS A TIGHT ROAD. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE ROAD WAS THERE. I CAN'T CHANGE THAT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. WITH THE CHANGE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS HAS THE PROPOSED RENT, HAS THAT CHANGED? YES. AS WELL. WE TAKE THERE'LL ONLY BE TWO UNITS RENTING INSTEAD OF THREE. SO SO IT'LL BE A TIGHTER, BUILD. I'LL HAVE TO CUT SOME CORNERS HERE AND THERE. 
          ON THE INTERIOR WORK, POSSIBLY, BUT IT'S STILL FOR THE BETTERMENT OF DOWNTOWN GROVE CITY. THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD PROJECT WE'RE BUILDING DOWN HERE. AND THE FIRST ONE TURNED OUT WELL. THE SECOND ONE'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. SO WHAT IS THE PROPOSED RENT, PROBABLY. BETWEEN 18 AND $2300 PER MONTH. I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT BUELL IS GETTING FOR THEIR TWO BEDROOMS OVER THERE. AND EVERY TIME I OPEN UP THEIR WEBSITE, I'M SURPRISED AT HOW EXPENSIVE IT'S GETTING. IT'S IT. OTHER QUESTIONS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, SO THE, YOU MENTIONED OVER THE CARRIAGE HOUSE, THE, SECOND FLOOR, THE ROOM UP THERE THAT IS FOR STORAGE. CORRECT. OKAY. AND IS IT, IS IT ACCOMMODATED SO THAT COME A POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE? SHOULD THINGS CHANGE THAT, THAT IT COULD BE OCCUPIED AND LIVED IN? AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY. ARE YOU ASKING IF THERE'S GOING TO BE UTILITIES RUNNING INTO IT? THERE'S UTILITIES RAN TO THE GARAGE BECAUSE THERE IS A HALF BATH IN THE GARAGE AND A HVAC UNIT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY EVER GOES INTO THEIR ATTIC DURING THE SUMMERTIME OR DURING THE WINTER. IF STUFF'S NOT TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED, YOU GO IN THERE AND IT CAN GET MOLDY. SO BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT IS JUST STORAGE. BUT THERE WILL BE SEWER LINES RUNNING INTO IT. THERE WILL BE WATER LINES. RAN TO IT, ONE DOING IT AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION MAKES SENSE. AND TWO, THE, WE WANT TO CONTROL 
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THAT SPACE. OKAY, CHAIR. SIR, IF I MAY, THE ZONING TEXT, SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE SECOND FLOOR WILL BE STORAGE. SO IN THE FUTURE, IF HE WERE TO WANT TO PUT A UNIT ABOVE THE GARAGE, HE WOULD NEED TO COME BACK IN FOR A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT. SO IT WOULD COME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AGAIN. AGAIN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION? IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. YES. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK. YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. MY NAME IS SCOTT. WE LIVE AT 5349 MARYVILLE LANE, GROVE CITY, I OWN A PROPERTY ON, ROSE AVENUE. 32 3290 ROSE AVENUE, SO, DEAR MEMBERS OF A SMALL STATEMENT I WANT TO READ. SO, DEAR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MY NAME IS SCOTT HOYE. MY WIFE AND I HAVE OWNED THE PROPERTY AT 1390 ROSE AVENUE SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2000. WE LIVE THERE UNTIL DECEMBER 2002. WE HAVE ACTIVELY RENTED AND MANAGED THAT PROPERTY SINCE JANUARY OF 2003. WE CURRENTLY RESIDE IN OUR HOME ON MARYVILLE LANE. OUR CURRENT TENANT HAS BEEN RENTING A ROSE AVENUE HOUSE SINCE 2015. I'M HERE TODAY ALONG WITH OTHERS, TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE ROSE CASTRO AVENUE REZONING AND ROSE CASTRO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. 
          NUMBER ONE, ROSE AVENUE IS ZONED R2 FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY SINCE 1975 AND WE'D LIKE TO REMAIN ZONED R2. NOT PUD. INDEED, THERE ARE TWO EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS ON ROSE AVENUE. ONE WAS BUILT IN 1955 AND THE OTHER ONE WAS BUILT IN 1939. HOWEVER, BOTH WERE GRANDFATHERED IN INTO THE R2 ZONING BACK IN 1975. SECOND REASON MR. CASTRO IS VACANT LOT IS TOO SMALL FOR A DUPLEX. THE SECTION THREE PUTT ANALYSIS FOUND IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REPORT INDICATED THAT THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT FOR A DUPLEX IS 70FT. MR. MR. CASTRO'S LOT IS ONLY 46.6FT. IT CLEARLY DOES NOT MEET A DUPLEX LOT WITH STANDARD. IT IS NEARLY 25FT SHORT OF THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. THE SECOND EXISTING MULTIFAMILY, THE TWO EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS ON ROSE AVENUE, WERE BOTH BUILT ON DOUBLE LOTS. ONE DWELLING, 3306, WHICH IS A DUPLEX, IS ON A DOUBLE LOT THAT IS 108FT WIDE. THE OTHER DWELLING 32, 85 AND 3289. A MULTIFAMILY UNIT IS ALSO ON A DOUBLE LOT, MEASURING CLOSE TO 93FT WIDE. THIS CAN BE SEEN ON THE AUDITOR'S WEBSITE. FURTHERMORE, THE PUTT ANALYSIS ALSO INDICATED THAT THE SIDE SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS AT LEAST SIX FEET. THE SIDE SETBACK ON ON THIS DUPLEX IS, I BELIEVE, LIKE FOUR FEET ON ONE SIDE AND SIX AND A HALF ON THE OTHER. ACCORDING TO THE REPORT. CLEARLY THIS, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T MEET THE FULL REQUIREMENT. OBVIOUSLY, THIS DUPLEX IS TOO LARGE FOR THIS SMALL LOT HISTORICALLY, THIS LOT HAS NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE DEVELOPED FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME EXCEPT IN 2021. AND MR. CASTRO PURCHASED IT, PURCHASED IT SINCE 1949, AND IT HAS BEEN ATTACHED TO WHOEVER, WHOEVER OWNED 3300 ROSE AVENUE IN 1949, MR. SPINKS AND HIS WIFE BOUGHT TWO LOTS ON ROSE AVENUE. HE BUILT HIS HOUSE, 3300, ON ONE LOT AND KEPT THE OTHER LOT, WHICH IS MR. CASTRO'S LOT VACANT. HE ALSO BUILT HIS HOUSE FURTHER BACK FROM THE STREET THAN THE OTHER HOUSES ON ROSE AVENUE. PERHAPS BECAUSE HE WANTED HE WAS NEAR THE END OF THE STREET AND WANTED A LARGER FRONT YARD. IN 1950, MR. HERMAN GROSSMAN AND HIS WIFE BETTY BUILT 3290 ROSE AVENUE NEXT TO THE VACANT LOT, WITH THE SAME FRONT SETBACK LINE AS 3300 ROSE OVER MANY YEARS. AS OWNERS OF 33 3300 ROSE HAVE CHANGED OWNERS. THE VACANT LOT WAS ALWAYS SOLD WITH THE HOUSE. THE LAST OWNER WHO LIVED AT 3300 ROSE, SOLD THE PROPERTY TO AN INVESTOR IN 2021 WHO DID NOT WANT THE VACANT LOT, SO HE SOLD IT SEPARATELY. MR. CASTRO BOUGHT IT IN 2021. WE WERE HOPING THAT MR. CASTRO WOULD BUILD A 2 OR 3 BEDROOM, SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT IS FITTING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOT SIZE, WITH A FRONT SETBACK LINE THAT IS MORE IN LINE WITH 3290 AND 3300 ROSE. UNFORTUNATELY AS PROPOSED, THE FRONT SETBACK LINE WILL WILL PLACE HIS DUPLEX SO FAR OUT FRONT OF THE STREET THAT IT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE VISUAL ENJOYMENT OF THE SCREENED IN PORCH OF 3290. INSTEAD OF HAVING A NICE FULL VIEW OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS SITTING ON THE PORCH AT 3290 WILL NOW HAVE THEIR VIEWS SIGNIFICANTLY BLOCKED, MOSTLY SEEING A CLOSE UP VIEW OF A LONG VINYL SIDED TWO STORY DUPLEX WALL. THIS. 
          SIMILARLY, THIS ALSO IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS OF 3300 ROSE AS WELL, WHO ALSO HAVE A NICE FRONT PORCH. MOREOVER THIS FROM THE STREET VIEW THIS DUPLEX IS GOING TO LOOK AWKWARD ON ON THIS SMALL LOT, WITH ITS FRONT PORCH JUTTING OUT NEAR THE STREET, CLOSELY PACKED IN BETWEEN TWO OLDER, SMALLER HOUSES WHICH SIT WHICH SIT MUCH FURTHER BACK FROM THE STREET. IT WILL LOOK ESTHETICALLY UNPLEASANT, POSSIBLY HURTING THE REAL ESTATE VALUE OF ALL THREE PROPERTIES, WHICH IN TURN COULD POSSIBLY BE A LOSS OF TAX DOLLARS FOR THE CITY OVER TIME. THIRD, ALONG WITH THIS, THE DUPLEX, WHICH AGAIN IS TOO LARGE FOR THIS SMALL LOT. MR. CASTRO ALSO WANTS TO BUILD A TWO STORY, THREE CAR CARRIAGE HOUSE WITH A DUBIOUS STORAGE AREA ON THE SECOND FLOOR 
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IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. IF THE SECOND FLOOR IS GOING TO BE USED FOR STORAGE, WHY, AS A HALF BATH AND WATER AND DRAIN LINE IS GOING TO BE UP THERE, AND WATER LINES AND LAUNDRY AREA WITH 220 ELECTRICAL OUTLET BEING INSTALLED. ALSO ACCORDING TO THE PLAN DRAWINGS, WHY DOES THE STORAGE AREA AND THIS MAY NOT? THIS WOULD MAY HAVE CHANGED BUT IT WAS ON THE DRAWING. HAVE SLIDING GLASS DOORS AND A BALCONY IN VARIOUS SIZE WINDOWS. IT SEEMS THAT MR. CASTRO'S INTENT IS TO EVENTUALLY TURN THIS STORAGE AREA, INTO LIVING SPACE SO HE CAN EVENTUALLY HAVE A THIRD RENTAL UNIT ON THIS LOT, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY WHICH WAS HIS ORIGINAL INTENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID NO. ALONG WITH THE PETITION FROM RESIDENTS ON ROSE AVENUE, WHO REJECTED IT AS WELL. UNFORTUNATELY FOR MANY OF US, WITH THIS DUBIOUS REVISED CARRIAGE HOUSE PLAN, IT FEELS LIKE MR. CASTRO IS TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO GAME THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS IN ORDER TO GAIN APPROVAL. MR. CASTRO'S HUBRIS AND LACK OF CONCERN TOWARD THE ROSE AVENUE PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS. WITH THIS REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS TRULY DISAPPOINTING. IN CLOSING, MANY PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS OF ROSE AVENUE HAVE SIGNED TWO PETITIONS ASKING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REJECT THIS, CASTRO ROSE REZONING AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE ASK THAT MR. CASTRO WITHDRAW THIS DUPLEX CARRIAGE HOUSE PLAN, AND INSTEAD WE ASK THAT HE BUILD A 2 OR 3 BEDROOM, SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A FRONT SETBACK LINE, MORE IN LINE WITH 3290 AND 3300. ROSE IF HE WANTS TO RENT THIS SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A TYPICAL TWO CAR GARAGE, WE ARE ALL FINE WITH THAT. THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH THE GARAGE IS FITTING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'D ALSO, HE WOULD ALSO GAIN THE GOODWILL, COOPERATION AND TRUSTWORTHINESS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS OF ROSE AVENUE. FINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR GIVING US THE TIME TO VOICE OUR OPPOSITION TO THIS, TO THE ROSE CASTRO REZONING AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WHEN I ENTER THIS, FOR THE RECORD, DO I GIVE THAT TO YOU? SURE YOU CAN GIVE THAT TO ME. OKAY THANK YOU. MR. CASTRO, I WILL GIVE YOU, EITHER, YOUR YOUR CHOICE. YOU CAN EITHER, SPEAK TO SOME OF THE ITEMS IF YOU SO WISH OR IF THERE ARE, I CAN CALL AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN, HAVE ALL YOUR COMMENTS AT ONCE AGAIN, IT'S UP TO YOU WHAT ORDER YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT IN. IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? MY NAME IS MARILYN DEMPSEY. I LIVE AT 3299 ROSE AVENUE, DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS LOT THAT MR. CASTRO WANTS TO BUILD THIS HUMONGOUS THING ON. AFTER TALKING ABOUT THIS, LOOKING AT IT, I HAPPEN TO BE IN I WORKED CLOSE TO GERMAN VILLAGE AND I WAS DOWN MUELLER STREET. THEY'RE BUILDING SOMETHING VERY MUCH SIMILAR TO THAT. I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT YESTERDAY, BUT THERE IS ALSO A LARGE DUPLEX PROPERTY BUILT ALMOST ON THE SIDEWALK, ALMOST ON THE SIDEWALK , WITH THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR SET BACK. YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING. THERE'S NO ROOM TO BREATHE. AND THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M AFRAID OF LOOKING HERE. AND I'M WONDERING ALSO, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SCOTT JUST SAID, BUT I'M ALSO WONDERING THE SAME THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE PLUMBING AND PUTTING ALL THIS STUFF IF IT'S GOING TO BE A STORAGE AREA? SO I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HIS REASONING ON THAT. I WOULD BE OKAY. ALSO, WITH THE TWO BEDROOM SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A GARAGE, GREAT. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW TOO. LOOKING FAST FORWARD TEN YEARS, WE HAVE 8 OR 10 KIDS RIGHT ON THE ON THE BROADWAY END OF GROVE CITY OR ON THE BROADWAY END OF OUR STREET. AND THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE IN, YOU KNOW, FIVE, SIX YEARS, SEVEN YEARS ARE ALMOST GOING TO BE DRIVING CARS. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE CARS. SO IF HE BUILT THIS ALL, ALL THIS THING, YOU'VE GOT POSSIBLY 6 TO 8, MAYBE EVEN TEN ADULTS IN THOSE IN THOSE UNITS, NOT TO MENTION THE ONES DOWN THE STREET. AND WE HAVE ALL THESE CARS RIGHT NOW. I CAN BARELY GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY IF THERE'S A CAR EITHER PARKED ON MY SIDE OF THE STREET OR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, AND IT HAPPENS REALLY OFTEN. SO I JUST WANTED TO HAVE MY $0.02 WORTH IN THERE ABOUT THAT AND SAY, I REALLY AGREE WITH THE THINGS THAT SCOTT SAID. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT, ALL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE IN RECEIPT OF A LETTER RECEIVED FROM, AN AREA NEIGHBOR, PROPERTY OWNER, AND SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES, AS IT WAS REQUESTED THAT THAT BE READ INTO THE TO THE MINUTES FOR THE RECORD OF THE MEETING. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY, A COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, ONE, 
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THE SETBACK, THE HOUSE IS IN LINE WITH THE AVERAGE ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. AND THAT WAS A REQUEST PER THE CITY, WE ORIGINALLY HAD THE HOUSE PUSHED BACK FURTHER, AND THEY WANT IT BROUGHT UP FORWARD. SO IT MATCHES MAJORITY OF THE HOUSES ON THAT LINE. WE CANNOT CHANGE THAT. SOMEBODY CHOSE TO BUILD A HOUSE FURTHER BACK WHEN ALL THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE STREET ARE UP FRONT, THE. SCOTT, I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE NEWER PLANS, BUT THERE IS NO SLIDING WINDOWS IN THE SECOND FLOOR ON THE NEWEST PLANS, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ON THE CITY WEBSITE, AND AS I SPOKE BEFORE, PUTTING 220 INTO THE UNIT IS FOR AIR CONDITIONER AND HEAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE HEATED AND COOLED GARAGES AND STORAGE SPACES, NOT JUST IN COLUMBUS, LIKE GERM VILLAGE, LIKE SHE HAD JUST MENTIONED. BUT YOU GO TO PINNACLE. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEIR GARAGES HEATED AND COOLED, A LOT OF NEW HOME BUILDERS ARE OFFERING THAT. SO IN HAVING A DETACHED GARAGE WITH A RESTROOM, HOW MANY PEOPLE PARK THEIR CAR AND HAVE TO USE A RESTROOM RIGHT AWAY AND CAN'T MAKE IT TO THEIR HOUSE? SO THAT'S THE POINT FOR DOING THAT, ONE RIGHT NOW I HAVE SO MUCH SPACE STILL AT MY WAREHOUSE THAT I'D LIKE TO PUT STUFF AND ORGANIZE IT IN STORAGE , SO THAT STORAGE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE FOR US. WHEN YOU COMBINE HOMES AND COMBINED FAMILIES, YOU END UP WITH TWICE AS MANY HEIRLOOMS AND EVERYTHING. SO THE INTENT IS FOR STORAGE, THERE IS NO SLIDING DOOR. IT'S A BAY WINDOW OR A BIG WINDOW. AND THE SETBACKS. I UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF KIDS BEING ON THE STREETS. WE LISTEN TO THEM, WE MOVE THE STUFF TO THE REAR, WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT COMMERCIAL TRUCKS DRIVE UP AND DOWN. I'M SURE EVERYBODY ENJOYS GETTING THEIR AMAZON PACKAGES. IF AMAZON WOULD JUST DELIVER ONE THING, ONE STREET AND ONE TRUCK VERSUS TEN HOUSES AND TEN DIFFERENT TRUCKS, IT WOULD CUT DOWN ON IT. BUT THAT'S STUFF WE CAN'T CONTROL. ALL WE CAN CONTROL IS TRYING TO BUILD A NICE PROPERTY ON A LOT. 
          FOLLOWING THE SETBACKS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY, ALSO THE SETBACK ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE HOUSE, TO APPEASE, THE OWNER TO THE RIGHT SIDE. WE DID MOVE IT FURTHER AWAY FROM HIS HOUSE, INSTEAD OF CENTERING IT ON THE LOT, BECAUSE THE OWNER OF THE LEFT HOUSE HAS SIGNED AN AFFIDAVIT AND A CONTRACT THAT SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE SETBACKS AND ARE OPEN TO ANY VARIANCES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER PLANNING COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. SURE. I MAKE THE MOTION FOR, ISSUE NUMBER ONE. 
          ROSE CASTRO REZONING FROM R TWO TO R OR P R RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO OUR CITY COUNCIL. I SECOND ROLL CALL. MISS WEMLINGER. YES, CHAIR. OYSTER. YES, MR. FARNSWORTH? YES. MR. TITUS? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. STAY IN PLACE, IF YOU WOULD. OKAY APPLICATION NUMBER 
          [2. APPLICATION: Rose Castro – Final Development Plan]
TWO. ROSE CASTRO. FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW DUPLEX HOME WITH CARRIAGE HOUSE, GARAGE WITH STORAGE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, A REZONING APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR CONCURRENT REVIEW, WHICH ESTABLISHES THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE SITE AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS BEEN REVIEWED AGAINST THESE STANDARDS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE DRAFT TEXT. IF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO SUBMIT FOR BUILDING PERMITS WITH THE BUILDING DIVISION PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION ON. THE PROPOSED DUPLEX STRUCTURE SHOWN TO BE SET BACK 26FT FROM ROSE AVENUE, AS REQUIRED IN THE ZONING TEXT, TO ALIGN WITH MOST HOMES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD. A CARRIAGE HOUSE GARAGE WITH STORAGE ON THE SECOND FLOOR IS PROPOSED BEHIND THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND WILL BE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC ALLEY ALONG THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. SETBACKS FOR BOTH STRUCTURES, AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS, COMPLY WITH THE STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE ZONING TEXT. THE DUPLEX STRUCTURE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 2600FT■!S, WITH EACH UNIT MEASURING APPROXIMATELY 1300 SQUARE FEET. PLANS SHOW EACH UNIT INCLUDING TWO BEDROOMS AND TWO BATHROOMS. THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE DUPLEX STRUCTURE WILL BE TWO STORIES, AND MEASURED 24FT, EIGHT INCHES FROM GRADE TO THE PEAK OF THE ROOF. THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS MEET THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE ZONING TEXT, IN TERMS OF 
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MATERIALS USED AND THE INCLUSION OF REQUIRED ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS FOR INCREASED ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST. THE PROPOSED CARRIAGE HOUSE GARAGE WILL CONSIST OF A THREE CAR GARAGE WITH SECOND FLOOR STORAGE AREA, AND WILL MEASURE 27FT FROM GRADE TO PEAK OF THE ROOF. BOTH STRUCTURES WILL BE FINISHED WITH GRAY VINYL BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING AND VINYL SOFFITS. THE TRIM WILL BE PAINTED IN AN OFF WHITE COLOR. NOTING THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETS ALL APPLICABLE PUD ANALYSIS CRITERIA AND IS IN LINE WITH THE LAND USE IDENTIFIED FOR THE SITE IN THE GROVE CITY 2050 COMMUNITY PLAN. AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS SUBMITTED. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS, THE ONLY COMMENT WAS DID YOU NOTICE THE TRIM IS COMPLIMENTARY ON ONE AND OFF WHITE ON THE OTHER? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLIMENTARY. OKAY THAT WOULD STILL COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TEXT. OKAY ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PUSHING THE REZONING FORWARD AND LOOKING FOR FORWARD TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT. AND, PROVIDING MORE HOUSING FOR GROVE CITY. VERY GOOD QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. MR. CASTRO, WE APPRECIATE THAT, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME OF HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE TOLD YOU WE DON'T WANT A THIRD UNIT THERE. 
          AND AS WITH THE FOLKS HERE, I'M CONCERNED WITH THE SEWER AND THE WATER. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE HEATING AND COOLING AND GARAGE, BUT TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR INTENTIONS ARE TO ADD AN APARTMENT AND IF YOU NEED TO BRING IT BACK THERE, YOU COULD ALWAYS ADD SEWER AND WATER LATER. IF PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE FUTURE AND CITY COUNCIL. BUT THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM ALL ALONG. 
          AND IT'S NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THREE UNITS ON THERE. I WISH, JIM WAS HERE TODAY. HIS BIG CONCERN WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS WE'RE FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE WE'RE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET A ZONING TO GET SMALL AREAS BETWEEN. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SIX FEET ON EITHER SIDE FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT. IF THERE WAS A FIRE IN THAT THIRD UNIT IN THE BACK AND FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GET TO THE BACK, THERE, EVEN COMING UP THAT ALLEY, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR FIRE TRUCKS TO GO UP THERE. SO IT'S MORE OF A SAFETY ISSUE AND THAT'S BEEN RELAYED TO YOU SEVERAL TIMES THAT WE DO NOT WANT A THIRD APARTMENT BACK THERE. AND THAT'S WHY. SO I'M BASICALLY I'M GOING TO ADD A STIPULATION. THERE'S NO PLUMBING AND THERE'S NO SEWER TO THIS BEFORE WE GO TO THE VOTE. IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, THEN I WOULD BE APPROVE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THERE'S OTHER DUPLEXES ON THAT STREET AND AGAIN, THE SETBACKS AND STUFF. I SEE WHERE THE FOLKS ARE CONCERNED, BUT THAT WE DO NOT WANT A THIRD UNIT BACK THERE. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE HEAT AND COOLING IT. THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE A OF PLUMBING AND SEWER IN THERE. AND UNLESS YOU WERE JUST GOING TO ADD AN APARTMENT ORIGINALLY AND THAT'S THAT'S BEEN OUR CONCERN ALL ALONG. AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, NOR NOR HAS ANYBODY IN THIS COMMISSION THAT I KNOW OF WAS IN FAVOR OF A THIRD APARTMENT BACK THERE. FROM THE FIRST TIME WE'VE LOOKED AT THESE DRAWINGS. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I CLEARLY HEAR THAT. BUT PART OF THE PLANS, IF YOU LOOK AT THEM, HEATING AND COOLING AND SEWER AND WATER IS JUST FOR THE FIRST FLOOR, YOU HAVE TO RUN WATER ANYWAYS TO YOUR GARAGE. WHY DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE WATER TO YOUR GARAGE? WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO? YOU'RE GOING TO RUN A HOSE 100FT FROM THE HOUSE TO WASH YOUR CAR IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. PEOPLE DO IT. YES THE CITY WE'VE TALKED TO THEM. THE SEWER HAS TO GO TO THE STREET. TO THE ALLEY. ANYWAYS THE SETBACK THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE GARAGE IS WIDER THAN THE SIX FOOT REQUIRED. IT'S AT SEVEN AND A HALF, SO WE DO HAVE THAT SPACING THERE, BUT THERE IS NO UNIT. AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO APPROVE THE PLANS. IF THERE'S NO PLUMBING PLANS OR NO HVAC GOING UPSTAIRS, I'M SORRY, NO VENTS UPSTAIRS OTHER THAN THE HVAC, AND THERE'S NO SEWER. THAT'S WHAT THE ZONING TEXT IS GOING TO BE WRITTEN AS, IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT. WE DON'T WANT AN APARTMENT UP THERE, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN APARTMENT. AND I'VE TALKED WITH THEM, AND THAT'S THE PLAN. I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AS THE FOLKS HERE YOU'RE GOING TO. THERE IS NO SEWER AND WATER RUNNING TO THE SECOND FLOOR, AND A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE BEAUTIFUL GARAGES WITHOUT HAVING A BATHROOM IN IT. IN THE GARAGE, HEATING AND COOLING. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO. YOU RUN SEWER TO THERE. IT'D BE EASY TO CONVERT THAT INTO AN APARTMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO NOT WANT BACK. 
          THERE IN BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO APPROVE THE PLANS WITH NO SEWER AND WATER TO THE SECOND FLOOR. SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IT IN THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK THROUGH AND REDO EVERYTHING. SO IT'S JUST A BATHROOM AND A HEATING AND COOLING ON THE FIRST FLOOR. SIR, I'M JUST TELLING YOU , THAT'S WHERE I FEEL, AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FOLKS HERE. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOUR INTENTION WITH THE GARAGE, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE THAT AS STORAGE. WHO IS ANYBODY GOING TO BE PARKING IN THE GARAGE OR. 
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YES, THE TENANTS. CORRECT. OR WILL YOU BE USING THE BOTTOM PART AS STORAGE AS WELL? RIGHT NOW WITH IT GOING DOWN TO TWO UNITS? YEAH. WE HAVE TO REQUIRE TWO AND A HALF SPOTS PER. OKAY. 
          RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NINE. SO IN THE FUTURE AM I GOING TO STORE A CAR IN ONE OF THEM. AND THE TENANTS ONLY HAVE EIGHT INSTEAD OF NINE SPACES. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY I SEE. SO IF YOU WERE THERE, I WOULD NEED A RESTROOM. YOU WOULD NEED A RESTROOM? YEAH, THAT'S MY POINT. 
          GOOD THOUGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. SURE. I MAKE THE MOTION TO MAKE ONE STIPULATION TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT OF NO SEWER AND WATER TO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE, THAT IT WILL NEVER BE AN APARTMENT. DOES THE CITY WANT TO COMMENT, ON THIS? I'LL GO AHEAD. 
          GO AHEAD. SO THIS THIS IS THE ONLY STIPULATION, AND IT'S NO SEWER AND WATER TO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE DETACHED REAR STRUCTURE, CORRECT? NO, TO THE GARAGE ITSELF. I DON'T I WOULD SAY NO SEWER TO THE GARAGE BECAUSE I COULD EASILY TRANSFORMED INSIDE THE BUILDING TO AN APARTMENT IF THEIR SEWER AND WATER THERE. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE RIGHT THE EXACT THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT PART OF THE STRUCTURE COMPLETELY IMPROVE EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, EXCEPT FOR RUNNING SEWER AND WATER THAT CARRY CHANNELS BECAUSE. YEAH, AND THIS VOTE IS ONLY FOR THIS TO INCLUDE THIS STIPULATION. YES. WHICH IF WE DO THAT, THAT MEANS NO BATHROOM. CORRECT IN THE LOWER LEVEL. OKAY . SO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE JUST NEED A SECOND. WE'LL SECOND THEN. ROLL CALL. MISS WEMLINGER. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE HOW I'M OKAY WITH HOW IT'S WRITTEN HERE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT I SAY NO OR YES. THAT WOULD BE A NO IF YOU YOU DO NOT WANT THAT STIPULATION ADDED, YOU WOULD VOTE NO. NO OKAY. NO CHAIR OYSTER. NO MR. FARNSWORTH. YES. MR. TITUS? YES SO THAT FAILS FOR LACK OF A MAJORITY. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          I'M GONNA MAKE IT A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE STIPULATION. OH THIS ONE? YES MOTION TO APPROVE WITH A STIPULATION. NO. THIS PASS. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. APPLICATION TO ROSE CASTRO. 
          FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT TO COUNCIL. YES, YES. AS SUBMITTED. AS SUBMITTED. SORRY I'LL SECOND. MISS WEMLINGER? YES CHAIR. OYSTER. YES. MR. FARNSWORTH? NO. 
          MR. TITUS. NO. SO THAT ALSO FAILS FOR LACK OF A MAJORITY. AND SO IT WILL GO TO COUNCIL AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR ESSENTIALLY IT WILL. WE'LL SHOW THE RECORD WILL SHOW THAT IT WAS A22 SPLIT, BUT THAT WILL BE NO RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO COUNCIL. THIS WILL STILL GO TO COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPLICATION NUMBER THREE HARRIS 
          [3. APPLICATION: Harris Farm – Final Development Plan]
FARM. FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANKS. CHAIR. OYSTER JOE SALMONELLOSIS 7858 CALVERTON SQUARE, NEW ALBANY. SEMINOLE LAND COMPANY. THANK YOU . THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY CONSISTING OF 266 UNITS AND FOUR SUB AREAS ON A 96.3 ACRE TRACT OF LAND AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LONDON GROVE, PORT ROAD AND 
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BORDER ROAD. A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2022, AND THE SITE WAS REZONED TO PDR. PLANNING DEVELOPED DEVELOPMENT. RESIDENTIAL. IN 2023 WITH THE ZONING TEXT. THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS BEEN REVIEWED AGAINST THE APPROVED ZONING TEXT TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE TEXT. THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO SUBMIT FOR FINAL ENGINEERING REVIEW AND BUILDING PERMITS. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE ACCESSED FROM AN EXTENSION OF HAWTHORNE PARKWAY, WHICH CURRENTLY TERMINATES AT BOROUGH ROAD IN THE INDIAN TRAIL SUBDIVISION, WHEN THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO EXTEND HAWTHORNE PARKWAY ACROSS BOROUGH ROAD TO ESTABLISH A CONNECTION WITH LONDON GROVE PORT ROAD, MATCHING THE INTENT FOR FUTURE ROADWAYS SHOWN ON THE APPROVED GROVE CITY THOROUGHFARE MAP. THE SITE IS PROPOSED TO HAVE FOUR SUBAREAS, EACH WITH DIFFERENT PRODUCTS OFFERED, AND EACH SUBAREA WILL BE ACCESSED FROM PRIVATE STREETS THAT CONNECT TO THE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY EXTENSION. SUB AREA A IS PROPOSED TO CONTAIN A TOTAL OF 103 FREESTANDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON PLATTED LOTS TO BE ACCESSED FROM PRIVATE STREETS. 
          SUB AREA B IS PROPOSED TO CONTAIN A MIXTURE OF ATTACHED AND DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY RANCH HOMES ON PRIVATE STREETS, WITH 35 DETACHED LOTS AND 36 ATTACHED UNITS PROPOSED SUB AREA C IS PROPOSED TO CONTAIN FOUR ESTATE HOMES, AND SUB AREA D IS PROPOSED TO CONTAIN 88 ATTACHED TOWNHOME UNITS, EACH WITH A DETACHED TWO CAR GARAGE. THE ZONING TEXT REQUIRES THAT STRUCTURES AND SUB AREA D BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 20FT FROM THE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY EXTENSION. 
          HOWEVER TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL OFF STREET PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAYS OF THE UNITS AT FRONT ON HAWTHORNE PARKWAY, THE BUILDINGS ARE SHOWN WITH SETBACKS LESS THAN THE REQUIRED 20FT AS MEASURED ON THE PLAN SHEETS. BUILDINGS ARE SHOWN AS CLOSE TO EIGHT FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH REQUIRES A DEVIATION FROM THE APPROVED ZONING TEXT. HOWEVER, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF GRANTING A DEVIATION FROM THIS REQUIREMENT, NOTING THE REDUCED SETBACK WILL ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL OFF STREET PARKING WHILE FRAMING THE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY EXTENSION. IT ALSO SHOULD BE NOTED THAT EVEN WITH REDUCED BUILDING SETBACK STRUCTURES WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 35FT FROM THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT AND LEAVE ADEQUATE SPACING FOR SIDEWALKS AND REQUIRED UTILITIES, INCLUDING STORMWATER, PRIVATE ROADWAYS THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE SHOWN WITH THE TOTAL PAVEMENT WIDTH OF 28FT, WHICH EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM STREET WIDTH OF 24FT REQUIRED BY THE ZONING TEXT, AND WILL ALLOW FOR ON STREET PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET. THE APPROVED ZONING TEXT REQUIRES PUBLIC STREETS BE 28FT WIDE, AND WHILE THE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY EXTENSION IS SHOWN WITH A WIDTH OF ONLY 26FT, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS DEVIATION TO MATCH THE EXISTING BUILT CHARACTER OF THE SECTIONS OF HAWTHORNE PARKWAY TO THE EAST, NO PARKING WOULD BE PERMITTED ON HAWTHORNE PARKWAY DUE TO THE PROPOSED WIDTH BEING LESS THAN 28FT. PLANS ALSO SHOW A 20 FOOT EMERGENCY ACCESS DRIVE OFF, BORROW ROAD TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SUBAREA B. PER THE ZONING TEXT, BUILDING ELEVATIONS ARE TO BE APPROVED AS PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ELEVATIONS FOR SUBAREAS. A B, AND D WERE PROVIDED FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. WITH THIS APPLICATION IN TEN DIFFERENT DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY MODELS ARE PROPOSED WITHIN SUBAREAS A AND B, WITH 7 TO 13 DIFFERENT SUBOPTIONS FOR EACH MODEL. FOR DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS WERE PROVIDED FOR THE DETACHED HOMES AND SUBAREA B, EACH UTILIZING A DIFFERENT COMBINATION OF FINISHED MATERIALS. SUBAREA C IS PROPOSED TO CONTAIN CUSTOM HOMES, AND AS SUCH NO ELEVATIONS WERE SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW. HOWEVER, THESE HOMES WILL NEED TO MEET THE SIZE AND ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE ZONING TEXT FOR SUBAREA C ONE ELEVATION WAS PROVIDED FOR THE TOWNHOMES AND SUBAREA D, HOWEVER , THE ELEVATION SHOWS EACH TOWNHOME UNIT RECEIVING A DIFFERENT FINISH AND ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS TO BREAK UP THE BUILDING AND DEFINE EACH UNIT. THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED FOR REVIEW COMPLY WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE ZONING TEXT. THE SITE EXCEEDS THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE REQUIRED BY CODE, WITH APPROXIMATELY 30% OF THE SITE REMAINING AS OPEN SPACE. MULTI-USE PATHWAYS ARE SHOWN RUNNING ALONG THE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY EXTENSION, AS WELL AS TO THE SITE'S CENTRAL OPEN SPACE AREA, WHICH PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTIVITY TO THE CITY'S TRAIL NETWORK AS WELL AS RECREATIONAL AMENITY TO THE RESIDENTS. AS PREVIOUSLY NOTED, PLANS SHOW EXTENDING HAWTHORNE PARKWAY TO THE WEST FROM THE CURRENT TERMINUS AT BOROUGH ROAD THROUGH THE SITE TO CONNECT TO LONDON GROVE PORT ROAD, AS GENERALLY SHOWN ON THE CITY'S APPROVED THOROUGHFARE MAP. PLANS ALSO SHOW A LEFT TURN LANE BEING ADDED ON LONDON GROVE PORT ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION WITH HAWTHORNE PARKWAY FOR SAFE ACCESS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. ADDITIONALLY PLANS SHOW THE INTENT TO DEDICATE AN ADDITIONAL 20FT OF RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE SITE'S LONDON GROVE PORT FRONTAGE AND ALL LANDSCAPING AND SIDEWALKS ARE KEPT OUT OF THIS FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY TO ALLOW FOR THE POTENTIAL FUTURE WIDENING OF LONDON GROVE PORT ROAD, WITH FURTHER FURTHER COORDINATION WITH THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. NOTING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COMPLIES WITH THE STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE APPROVED ZONING TEXT AND WILL RESULT IN A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETS THE FUTURE LAND USE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OUTLINED IN THE 2050 COMMUNITY PLAN. AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WITH THE 
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TWO DEVIATIONS NOTED ON SCREEN. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT'S EVOLVED, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE HISTORY THAT MR. LOGAN READ OFF, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION, SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE SPOKEN TO THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE FEEL IT'S EVOLVED INTO A GREAT PLAN AND, DIFFICULT SITE TO COMBINE. 
          BEAUTIFUL AREA BETWEEN TWO CREEKS IN THE REAR, BUT OUT FRONT WE DEAL WITH BORDER ROAD, FRONTAGE, BUT IN PARTICULAR, 665, HOW WE'VE LOCATED THE TOWNHOMES FRONTING ON BOTH OF THOSE ROADS AND, PRESENTING THE BEST FACE FORWARD TO DRIVE BY TRAFFIC FOR GROVE CITY FOR THE FUTURE AND THE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING AND HOW WE WERE ABLE TO CHANGE WITH PLANNING, THE ROUTE OF HAWTHORNE PARKWAY NOW MEANDERS THROUGH THE SITE. WE FEEL IT'S GOING TO BE, VERY PLEASANT. AND THE BEST DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD BE HERE. WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE, FOR ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR TEAM AS WELL. DOCTOR HARRIS IS HERE, OWNER THAT HAS STAYED THE COURSE, THROUGH ALL THE, DEVELOPMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE KELLY FANKHAUSER AND CRAIG CHERRY, FROM PEPCON TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PEPCON, EMPTY NESTER PRODUCT . TYLER JACKSON, OUR ENGINEER FROM KIMLEY-HORN AND SARAH SAUNDERS AND TODD FERRIS FROM FERRIS PLANNING AND DESIGN. SO WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. 
          QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION . I HAVE JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THIS IS MORE FOR THE CITY, BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. WITH THE SETBACK OF 20, THAT'S NORMALLY 20FT ON HAWTHORNE PARKWAY, IT WOULD BE. INEVITABLY, IT WOULD GO TO EIGHT FEET TO, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR SOME OFF STREET PARKING ON OTHER AREAS. IN OTHER AREAS, BUT IT WOULD BE IT WOULD STILL BE 35FT FROM THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT. SO ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN WE MAYBE JUST SEE A LOCATION WHERE THIS WOULD BE THE CASE, OR IS IT THE CASE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY OR JUST IN CERTAIN AREAS? IF YOU LOOK ON THIS THIS SLIDE HERE, SUBAREA DS AT THAT, THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER THERE WHERE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY KIND OF CURVES ON DOWN, WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, 7 OR 8 BUILDINGS ALONG THERE. THOSE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD HAVE THE REDUCED SETBACK JUST TO ALLOW FOR THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE REAR TO BE LONGER SO THEY COULD STACK AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE. OKAY. SO WITH THE REDUCED SETBACK, THERE'S STILL 35FT. AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY? YEAH. BECAUSE BECAUSE THE WAY IT MEASURES OUT IS THE SETBACK WAS 20FT. BUT WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND MEASURE FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE FACE OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S WHERE THE 35 COMES FROM. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. IT'S JUST A LOT DIFFERENT THAN EIGHT FEET. YES. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. 
          THANK YOU. YEAH. JUST TO FURTHER CLARIFY, WITHIN THAT RIGHT OF WAY, THERE'S STILL ADEQUATE SPACING FOR STORMWATER UTILITIES. ALL THE OTHER TYPICAL ITEMS FOUND A SIDEWALK TO ACCESS ALL OF THE UNITS, AND PROVIDE SAFE CONNECTIVITY. SO REALLY IT JUST PROVIDES A SAFER DEVELOPMENT IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE, IT ALLOWS FOR MORE PARKING WITHIN THAT SUB AREA. D WHERE ON STREET PARKING IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIMITED, NOTING THE SIZE OF THOSE GARAGES, AND THERE AREN'T AS MANY JUST OPEN AREAS FOR ON STREET PARKING WITHIN SUBAREA D. THANK YOU, AND I HAVE JUST TWO OTHER QUESTIONS, ONE IS AGAIN, MORE FOR THE CITY, BUT THE POWER LINE EASEMENT. 
          COULD YOU JUST SHOW WHERE THOSE ARE, WHICH WOULD BE THE EMERGENCY ACCESS DRIVE? YEAH. 
          LET ME SEE IF I CAN WORK IT UP. SO THE EMERGENCY ACCESS DRIVE IS RIGHT THERE OFF OF BOROUGH ROAD, AND THEN THE POWER LINE EASEMENT RUNS THROUGH THERE. OKAY. SO THOSE WOULD BE THE POWER LINE EASEMENT WOULD BE LEFT ALONE, BUT THE EMERGENCY ACCESS DRIVE WOULD BE ADDED IN TO CROSS UNDER 
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IT, WHICH IS PERMITTED WITHIN THAT EASEMENT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, THIS IS MORE FOR YOU, MR. SAMANILLO, ON THE LET'S SEE SUBAREA D THE ATTACHED TOWNHOMES, THE REAR OF THOSE THE TOWNHOMES LOOKED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE, RECONFIGURE AUGURED PERHAPS, BUT MY QUESTION IS THE REAR OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE FACING 665, IS THAT CORRECT, NO. 
          NO, THE TOWNHOMES ARE THE SAME AS WHAT WE PRESENTED. THE ELEVATIONS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. OKAY THE FRONT ELEVATION WILL BE FACING BORE AND 665. OKAY. THE GARAGES ARE ACCESSED FROM THE REAR AND IN BETWEEN THE GARAGE. AND EACH UNIT WILL EACH HAVE A PRIVATE BACKYARD LIVING SPACE SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. CASTILLO PRESENTED. OKAY. THAT CONFIGURATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SO JUST SIMPLY RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL HAVE YOU COME UP. I HAD ONE MORE COMMENT. IT WAS A COMMENT OF STAFF, I FORGOT TO THANK NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH. THE TRI TECHS ARE HERE, MR. MASON, KELLY FANKHAUSER HAS BEEN WORKING A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY WITH HIM. WE ARE PUTTING SOME OF THE LANDSCAPE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WITH COORDINATION WITH THE TRI TECHS ON THEIR PROPERTY. WE, WE AGREED WE'RE GOING TO WARRANTY THOSE PLANTINGS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT AS TIME GOES ON, WE'LL EACH MAINTAIN, THE PLANTINGS ON OUR RESPECTIVE PROPERTIES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU . THANKS. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION CHAIR. I MAKE THE MOTION. THE HARRISON PROPERTY ARE, NUMBER THREE. WE MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO OUR CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE TWO DEVIATIONS. SECOND. ROLL CALL. CHAIR. OYSTER. YES MR. FARNSWORTH? YES. MR. TITUS? YES, MISS. WEMLINGER. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS OUR THIRD AND FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE BROUGHT FORTH? PLANNING IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. THE MEETING'S ADJOURNED
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