Nov 04, 2024 City Council

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OH, RADU, IS ALSO NOT HERE. YOU SEE, I SINGLE OUT MR. DO SEE. I'M SORRY. THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF YOU. GIVE THEM AN INCH, THEY TAKE A MILE. WE JUST HAD A FEW MINUTE OVERRUN HERE.

[Call to Order]

[PROS Consulting presentation on Community Center]

NEXT SLIDE. KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING. THERE WE GO. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK JUST BRIEFLY ON THE PROCESS. THAT COMMUNITY CENTERS OWNS. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PRO FORMA COST RECOVERY CAPITAL COSTS THE PROS AND CONS OF DOING ONE FACILITY, DOING OR DOING TWO FACILITIES THAT ARE SMALLER RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN SOME IMPORTANT QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER. AND OUR NEXT STEPS. NEXT SLIDE. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE WE JUST BASICALLY AS YOU REMEMBER WE WENT THROUGH A DATA COLLECTION. WE LOOKED AT THE MARKET AND WHO ELSE IS IN THE MARKET. WE ALSO LOOKED AT AND DID BOTH FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS. WE LOOKED AT DID A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY. WE ALSO LOOKED AT WHAT ARE THE PROGRAM NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE LOOKED AT A FACILITY AND PROGRAM OPTIONS, AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT CAPITAL COSTS AND DEVELOPING A FINANCING, OPERATING PLAN FOR A PROPOSED BUILDING. AND WITH THAT, WE MADE A PUBLIC PRESENTATION, LIKE I SAID, TWO MONTHS AGO, JUST AS A REMINDER. NEXT SLIDE WAS WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY SAID WAS THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT FACILITY SPACES THAT WERE DESIRED BY YOUR COMMUNITY WAS AN INDOOR RUNNING, WALKING TRACK OR LEISURE POOL, WEIGHT ROOM, CARDIO SPACE, MULTI-PURPOSE COURTS, INDOOR POOL, LAP LANES, AEROBIC FITNESS SPACES, LAP LANES FOR EXERCISE, ARTS AND CULTURE, CULINARY ARTS, WARM WATER THERAPY, MULTI-PURPOSE SPACES, ROCK CLIMBING WALL, EVENT SPACES AND AN INDOOR TURF FIELD WAS DESIRED, WHICH CREATES A VERY LARGE MULTIFUNCTIONAL MULTI-PURPOSE MULTI PROGRAM SPACE AND THEN THE PROGRAMS THAT FOLLOW THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN CORE PROGRAMS WOULD BE EXERCISE, FITNESS, AQUATICS, DROP IN ACTIVITIES, LIFELONG LEARNING, TEAM SPORTS CLASSES, ART, THEATER AND SENIOR ACTIVITIES. SO THIS IS WHAT WE WORKED OFF OF FROM THIS PHASE. OH BOY, I GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THIS SLIDE. WE'VE GOT OUR CORE REVENUE DRIVERS HERE IN OUR PROGRAM ZONES. ESSENTIALLY IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE NEEDS OF THE SIZE FOR YOUR SPACES OF THE POPULATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SERVE TODAY, BUT ALSO FOR THE FUTURE. SO YOU WANT TO ENSURE THAT THAT FACILITY IS LARGE ENOUGH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED FROM OUR SITE TOURS WAS THAT OF THE PLACES THAT WE HAD VISITED, MULTIPLE OF THEM HAD RENOVATIONS SINCE ORIGINALLY OPENING THEM, AND SOME EVEN TWO SETS OF RENOVATIONS, WHICH WAS FOR DUBLIN. AND THEY RECOMMEND MAKING SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE SIZE OF YOUR POPULATION AND THE NEEDS OF YOUR COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU BUILD, SO THAT YOU'RE BUILDING IT AT A LARGE ENOUGH SIZE THE FIRST TIME, DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU WOULD ELIMINATE

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NICE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. SO THE SLIDE THAT WE HAVE UP NOW ARE THE ANCILLARY SERVICES. SO WE'VE GOT A MULTI-ACTIVITY COURT WHICH INCREASES THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE SPACE AND THE FACILITY FOR MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, ACTIVITIES NOT NECESSARILY ON YOUR HARD COURT HAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FLOORING AS WELL. A DEMONSTRATION, A KITCHEN WHICH ALLOWS FOR CONCESSIONS AS A FOOD SERVICE, POTENTIALLY CATERING A MAKER SPACE AND COOKING CLASSES.

OFFICE SPACE, WHICH IS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE ALL FULL TIME OFFICE STAFF WITH A CONFERENCE ROOM AND BREAK AREA AS WELL. THE CIRCULATION FOR THE FACILITY IS PRETTY SIZABLE, OBVIOUSLY, CONSIDERING ALL OF THE SPACES WITHIN THE FACILITY AND THE ANTICIPATED NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CIRCULATION INCLUDES THE VESTIBULES AND SMALL GATHERING SPACES FOR CONVERSATION AMONGST FACILITY USERS. THE RESTROOMS ARE SET TO SERVE SERVICE THE DRY SIDE OF THE FACILITY THAT YOU SEE HERE. STORAGE ROOMS THAT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE GYM, THE FITNESS ROOM, THE WEIGHT ROOM, AQUATICS AND MULTI-PURPOSE ROOMS TO ALLOW FOR QUICK TURNOVER OF THOSE ROOMS DEPENDING UPON THEIR USES. AND BACK TO BACK USES. AND THE UTILITY ROOM SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, ESSENTIALLY TOTALING 120,600FT■. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT. WHAT GROVE CITY CURRENTLY HAS IN ITS ASSETS IS ABOUT 32,500FT■!S OF INDOOR SPA.

YOU DO NOT SEE THAT HERE UNDER GROVE CITY PARKS AND RECREATION CURRENTLY. AND THAT IS BECAUSE THOSE FACILITIES ARE CURRENTLY IN USE FOR OTHER PURPOSES. BUT ALSO THOSE FACILITIES, I.E. THE EVANS CENTER, WHICH IS FOCUSED ONLY ON SENIORS, NOT NECESSARILY OPEN TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. THE KINGSTON CENTER, WHICH IS OPEN TO CLASSES AND IS NOT REALLY COMPATIBLE FOR THE RECREATION TRENDS THAT A COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER WOULD HAVE FOCUSED ON 100% RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. BUT THOSE FACILITIES DON'T MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY BASED ON WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS SPACES AND THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS WITHIN THE FACILITY, BOTH SITES ARE REALLY CONSIDERED PROGRAM CENTERS AND NOT COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTERS LIKE THE ONE PROPOSED. SO THE CURRENT 32,500FT■!S IS REALLY NT MEETING THE DIRECT NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WHAT IS NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE FACILITY THAT WE SHOWED OF 120 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET IN THE ZONE DEFINITIONS IS ABOUT 20 ACRES, MINIMALLY, TYPICALLY A

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FOR CONTEXT, WESTERFIELD SITS ON APPROXIMATELY 26 ACRES AND HAS A LITTLE OVER 500 STALLS. THOSE 500 STALLS ALSO ACCOMMODATE THE ADJACENT SPORTS FIELDS FOR OVERFLOWS. WHEN YOU HAVE ONE TEAM COMING AND ONE TEAM JUST WRAPPING UP, THE GAMES TENDS TO BE THE LARGEST NEED FOR PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE FACILITIES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO AS PART OF THE PRO FORMA, THE PRO FORMA SINCE THE SPACES HAVE CHANGED HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE BEEN CONSERVATIVE ON THE REVENUES ONLY UTILIZING 4% OF THE POPULATION WITHIN A 15 MINUTE DRIVE TIME. WE'RE ONLY GOING AT 70% CAPACITY INITIALLY, GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO RAMP UP. AND WE'VE GONE A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE ON THE EXPENDITURES. WHAT IS INCLUDED IN HERE IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS DYNAMIC PRICING. WE'RE UTILIZING CORE REVENUE DRIVERS SUCH AS MEMBERSHIPS, DAILY ADMISSIONS, AS WELL AS PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, AND THEN SOME OTHER SERVICES SUCH AS ADVERTISING AND PARTNERSHIP AND SPONSORSHIPS. THE PRO FORMA FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER PROVIDES A POSITIVE OUTLOOK ON THE CENTER'S FINANCIAL VIABILITY. THE PRO FORMA, AS I SAID, ACCOUNTS FOR A RAMP UP PERIOD BETWEEN THE FIRST AND THE FOURTH YEAR TO ACHIEVE BEGINNING 82 OR ALMOST 83% COST RECOVERY. WE'VE ALSO HAVE 5%. EVEN IN THOSE FIRST FEW YEARS, THERE'S STILL 5% OF THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED PLACED INTO RESERVE FOR FUTURE LIFE CYCLE REPLACEMENT OF WHETHER IT BE THINGS LIKE HVAC, SITE FURNISHINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO KEEP THE FACILITY FRESH. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THE WESTERVILLE COMMUNITY CENTER IS BETWEEN 80 AND 85% COST RECOVERY. AND THIS IS INTENTIONAL. IT'S WHERE THEY WANTED TO BE, AND IT'S WHERE THEY'VE CONTINUED TO ENSURE THAT THEIR REVENUES GENERATE ENOUGH TO COVER OR OFFSET. I SHOULD SA, 80 TO 85% OF THE OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES WITH SMART ADJUSTMENTS, WHICH WE WOULD ANTICIPATE HAPPENING EACH YEAR, BUT MORE SIGNIFICANTLY, WITHIN YEAR 3 TO 4 AND A GRADUAL INCREASE IN PROGRAMING, IT ALLOWS STAFF TO ACHIEVE FULL COST RECOVERY AS PART OF LOOKING AT THOSE REVENUES FOR THE ADMISSIONS PROGRAMS AND RESERVATIONS, WE DEVELOPED A PRICING STRATEGY AND THE REVENUE MODEL AND THE REVENUE MODEL THAT WAS DEVELOPED INCLUDES MONTHLY AND ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS, AND IT'S FOR INDIVIDUALS, COUPLES, SENIORS AND HOUSEHOLDS. AND IT ALSO HAS INSURANCE PAID MEMBERSHIPS AS WELL. ALSO INCLUDED IN IT IS DAILY ADMISSIONS, NOT JUST FOR THE FACILITY, SUCH AS THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND THE WALKING TRACK, BUT ALSO FOR OPEN SWIM, AQUATIC GROUP FITNESS AND THE INDOOR PLAYGROUND. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE LOOKED AT COST ESTIMATES AND WITHOUT A DESIGN OF THE FACILITY, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO NAIL DOWN COST OF THE CORE PROGRAM. HOWEVER, A FEW FACTORS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU ARE SEEING. THESE ARE ALL IN COSTS. THEY'RE ANTICIPATED TO FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT REALLY DEPENDS UPON THE SITE FURNISHINGS, AND THESE ARE FOR WELL DESIGNED FACILITIES, NOT NECESSARILY A BASIC FACILITY AS WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. AND WE HAVE SOME CLIENTS DOING AS WELL, WHICH IS A BASIC PREFAB BUILDING, MINIMAL WINDOWS, DECORATIVE FRONT THAT'S ABLE TO HELP CURB COSTS A LITTLE BIT. SO THESE COSTS HAVE COME FROM PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN A PART OF IN THE PAST, AND WE'VE SEEN FROM OUR PARTNERS. THE RANGE, AS I SAID, IS DEPENDENT UPON THE MATERIALS. BUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AT 120, WITH A LOW END OF 650, PUTS YOU IN AT ABOUT 78 MILLION. AND THEN AT THE HIGH END AT 750, 90.5 MILLION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS OF ONE

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AS YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A MOMENT FROM NANN, IT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT PROVIDING A FACILITY CURRENTLY IN A SMALLER CAPACITY HAS ITS OWN PROS AND CONS, AND WE'LL COVER THOSE ONCE NAN IS FINISHED WITH HERS. SO THE OPPOSITE OF HAVING THAT ONE FACILITY ON ONE SITE COULD BE 2 TO 3 ADDITIONAL RECREATION FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, HELPING BALANCE OUT WHERE THOSE SERVICES ARE BEING PROVIDED, MAKING THEM A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO HOME IN CERTAIN QUADRANTS OF THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'VE GOT THAT VISUAL FOR YOU AS WELL AS COSTS AND IMAGES LIKE IMAGES OF A FACILITY LIKE THAT ONE FACILITY ON ONE SITE, AS WE SAID, ALLOWS FOR LARGER TOURNAMENTS AND MEETS MORE COHESION AS FAR AS YOUTH SPORTS TOURISM IS CONCERNED. AND YOUTH SPORTS TOURISM HAS BEEN RAPIDLY INCREASING OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES. AS FAR AS THE REVENUE IT GENERATES, THE PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATE AND THE OVERALL ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT IT GENERATES FOR A COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO IN CONSIDERATION OF A SMALLER FACILITY AND ITS DEVELOPMENT, INSTEAD OF A LARGE FACILITY, SEVERAL FACTORS COME INTO PLAY.

ONE IS COST SAVINGS, SMALLER FACILITIES GENERALLY REQUIRE LOWER INITIAL CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS. THEY REQUIRE LESS MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS LESS OPERATIONAL COSTS. TARGETED AMENITIES. IT REALLY ALLOWS YOU TO FOCUS IN ON MORE OF WHAT IS NEEDED, AS WELL AS WHAT WILL PROVIDE GREATER FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST FOR THE USERS OF THE FACILITY. ALSO, EASIER ACCESS SMALLER CENTERS, ESPECIALLY IF LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, CAN MAKE IT EASIER FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO REACH THEM. FLEXIBILITY FOR FUTURE GROWTH MEANING STARTING WITH A SMALLER FACILITY LEAVES ROOM TO ASSESS USAGE PATTERNS AND THEN RENOVATE BASED UPON ITS CURRENT USES AND ANY ADDITIONAL USES THAT MIGHT BE FOUND THROUGH ADDITIONAL SURVEYS. ALSO, FASTER CONSTRUCTION AND IMPLEMENTATION. SMALLER PROJECTS GENERALLY HAVE SHORTER TIMELINES, ALLOWING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES MUCH SOONER THAN IF IT WERE A LARGER FACILITY. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO NAN SO THAT SHE CAN COVER WHAT A SMALLER FACILITY COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE. SO WELCOME. NO WORRIES. SO WE WERE ASKED TO EXPLORE WHAT A SMALLER FACILITY MIGHT LOOK LIKE. AND IT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LARGER FACILITY. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A PROGRAM SUMMARY, SOME PRELIMINARY CONCEPTS OF WHAT A SITE AND A FLOOR PLAN MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SOME SIMILAR IMAGES AS WELL AS SOME COST INFORMATION. SO YOU GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT MODEL MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SO THE SITE PROGRAM THIS REFLECTS TYPICAL SITE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A GREENFIELD SITE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHICH IS AT PINNACLE PARK, NORTHEAST CORNER OF PINNACLE PARK DRIVE AND HOLTON ROAD. SO LOOKING AT JUST SOME BASIC THINGS LIKE UTILITIES AND WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR PAVING SITE LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, TYPICAL THINGS YOU'D FIND ON A SITE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS THE INITIAL CONCEPT. THIS IS THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PINNACLE PARK AND HOLTON ROAD. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE AT THE NORTH END OF THE SITE, WHICH IS UP, WE HAVE TWO RETENTION PONDS THAT CAN BE PART OF THE AMENITIES OF THE SITE, AS WELL AS SOME WALKING PATHS. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES ABOUT I THINK WE HAVE 169 PARKING STALLS SHOWN. AND THEN WHERE THE LARGEST RED ARROW IS, YOU ENTER THE BUILDING THROUGH AN ENTRY PLAZA AND WE'RE SHOWING A BUILDING THERE THAT IS EASILY

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SO IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING PROGRAM, WE WORKED WITH LEON AND JACK TO REALLY DEVELOP WHAT AN INITIAL PROGRAM MIGHT BE FOR A SMALLER FACILITY. AND THIS IS A SUMMARY. WE HAVE A MUCH MORE DETAILED SUMMARY THAT YOU'LL EVENTUALLY GET AS PART OF OUR REPORT, BUT JUST IDENTIFYING SOME OF THE KEY SPACES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE LARGER PROGRAM FOR THE FACILITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THAT, LIKE I SAID, THE ENTRANCE AREA OFF THE PARKING LOT THROUGH AN OUTDOOR ENTRY PLAZA COMING INTO REALLY A LARGE LOBBY AND GATHERING SPACE IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE BOTH A CONTROL POINT BUT ALSO A LOT OF SPACE FOR CIRCULATION THAT HAS A DOUBLE USE AS A SOCIAL GATHERING SPACE AND REALLY BECOMES THE HUB OF ACTIVITY IN THE CENTER AND TO THE NORTH, OR TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE SCREEN. THERE ARE TWO GYMS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY OF AN EXPANSION FOR A THIRD GYM IF THAT WERE WARRANTED IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN TO THE LOWER PORTION, YOU HAVE THE FACILITY ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS THE STAFF SUPPORT AREAS JUST INSIDE THE FRONT DOOR. THEN YOU HAVE GROUP EXERCISE, TWO GROUP EXERCISE ROOMS AND THE WEIGHT AND FITNESS AREAS ARE THE LIGHT PINK. LET'S SEE IF I CAN HIGHLIGHT THAT. IN THIS AREA IS THE FITNESS. THEN WE HAVE THE TOILETS AND LOCKER ROOMS CHANGING ROOMS. WE HAVE A MULTI-USE ROOM HERE THAT HAS WOULD OPEN TO AN OUTDOOR PATIO THAT COULD BE USED SEASONALLY FOR OUTDOOR PROGRAMING. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME MECHANICAL SUPPORT SPACES AND A SERVICE AREA. ON THIS SLIDE AND THESE COLORS CORRESPOND WITH THE PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE. SO IN THE UPPER LEVEL WE HAVE A WALKING AND RUNNING TRACK. THIS WOULD BE TEN LAPS EQUALS A MILE FOR THIS TRACK. AND IT IT HAS VIEWS TO BOTH THE OUTSIDE AS WELL AS THE GYM AND IS OPEN TO THE ATRIUM.

AND THEN OVER IT. LET'S SEE. WE ALSO HAVE AN ELEVATOR THAT WOULD BRING YOU UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR, AS WELL AS A MONUMENTAL STAIR AND THEN OVER IN THIS LOCATION, LET'S SEE. IF I CAN GET THERE, THIS, THIS PIECE THAT STICKS OUT TO THE SIDE HERE IS A STRETCHING AND PERFORMANCE FITNESS AREA. AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME CARDIO OVER ON THE SIDE. SO YOU COULD DO SOME ADDITIONAL CARDIO WHILE YOU'RE WORKING OUT ON THE TRACK. AND THEN THESE ARE TWO STORY VOLUMES FOR THE MULTI-USE SPACE AND THE FITNESS SPACE. BUT WE DO THINK THERE'S SOME ROOM FOR SOME ADDITIONAL GROWTH HERE ON THE SECOND LEVEL VERTICALLY AS WELL. NEXT, I GOT TO CLOSE THAT NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS THESE ARE SOME IMAGES OF WHAT THE SOCIAL AND GATHERING SPACE MIGHT LOOK LIKE. AND IT INCLUDES A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF AMENITIES LIKE SOME COMFORTABLE LOUNGE SEATING OR EVEN IN THAT UPPER LEFT PHOTO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BENCHES. SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME TEAM GATHERING AREAS OUTSIDE THE GYM. THERE'D BE POTENTIALLY SOME VIEWS INTO THE GYM. THERE MIGHT

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AGAIN, IN THIS VIEW, THE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM AND FITNESS AREA ARE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SLIDE. YOU CAN SEE THE STRETCHING AREA STICKING OUT OVER THE PATIO IN THE CENTER WITH THE GLASS, AND THEN THE GYMNASIUM OVER TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. SO NEXT SLIDE. SO WE LOOKED AT THE COST OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN SEE UP THERE AT ROUGHLY 2.5 MILLION, THE COST OF THE BUILDING AT ALMOST 22 MILLION. AND THEN THE SOFT COSTS. SO WE LIKE TO SAY THE SOFT COSTS ARE IF YOU PICKED UP THE BUILDING AND SHOOK IT, EVERYTHING THAT FELL OUT WAS PART OF THE SOFT COSTS. SO IT'S THE FURNITURE, THE EQUIPMENT, THE SECURITY, THE AV SYSTEMS. AND I GUESS IF THE ARCHITECT WAS HANGING AROUND IN THERE OR THE ATTORNEY, THEY MIGHT FALL OUT TOO. SO IT'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS WELL AS SOME OWNER COSTS FOR GEOTECH AND ENVIRONMENT AND CONTINGENCIES AND SPECIAL INSPECTIONS AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER COSTS THAT THE OWNER HAS. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO THE ONE FACILITY ON ONE SITE THAT WE COVERED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION CAME OUT OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE SURVEY RESULTS. WHAT WILLIAMS ARCHITECTS PROVIDED WAS INPUT RECEIVED SINCE OUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION OVER THE SUMMER. AND HERE ARE THE PROS

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SO NUMBER TWO, NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER SEVEN. OKAY, DECREASING THE NUMBER OF GYMS ALSO DECREASE IN THE SIZE OF THE WEIGHT ROOM AND GROUP ROOM. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS AN INDOOR PLAY UNIT. OR WAS THERE AN INDOOR PLAY UNIT. NOT AN INDOOR. YEAH. NO INDOOR PLAY ROOM. AND I NOTICED IT ALSO LIKE ARTS AND CRAFTS ROOMS IS NOTED. WOULD THAT POTENTIALLY GO AWAY OR WAS THERE A MULTI-USE KIND OF SPACE THAT THAT THAT COULD THAT COULD BE SERVED IN THE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM? CORRECT. WHICH IS HOW WE HAVE THAT IN THE LARGER FACILITY AS WELL. I THINK THE LARGER FACILITY, IT ALSO FACILITY SPACES NOTED NOTIFIED IN THE SURVEY PRIORITIES. INDOOR TURF FIELD. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT IN THERE. IS THAT SOMETHING THOUGH THAT WAS INCLUDED EVEN IN THE 120,000 SQUARE FOOT LARGE FACILITY? NO, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDED IN PRINT.

THERE IS A WAY TO INCLUDE THAT AS THE MAIN FACILITY WHERE THE GYM IS AND HAVE AN OVERLAY. IT DOES REQUIRE A LOT OF MANPOWER TO SWITCH THOSE OUT, THOUGH. OKAY. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE EXPANSION TO THE SOUTH ON THE SMALLER IS NOT LABELED AS INDOOR TURF, BUT IT'S SIZED AS INDOOR TURF, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL FITNESS OR OTHER USES THAT ARE A HIGHER PRIORITY. BUT IT'S BIG ENOUGH THAT IT COULD FIT THERE. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, BUT THAT'S AGAIN AN ADDITION TO WHAT THIS SMALLER FACILITY SHOWS AT THIS POINT WITH THIS COST AND EVERYTHING. OKAY. AND HOW MANY. SO I THINK YOU KIND OF IDENTIFIED THE SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGE BUILDING ON ABOUT NINE PLUS ACRES FOR 120,000 SQUARE FOOT. DID YOU IDENTIFY? YOU SAID 20 PLUS ACRES, MINIMUM OF 20. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. PART OF THAT WAS TO CREATE A DESTINATION PARK AROUND THE BUILDING AS WEL. THAT'S NOT ALL BUILDING THAT'S PARKING, BUT A DESTINATION PARK THAT WENT WITH IT. YES, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANKS AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BIGGER LOCATION, NOT THE SMALLER LOCATION. CORRECT. THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECT. AND AS I IDENTIFIED FROM COMMUNITY INPUT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WAS BEING ASKED FOR ALL OF THE AMENITIES. WHY? WHY DID YOU DO A SMALL LOCATION? SO WHY DID YOU SPEND THE TIME TO DO A SMALL LOCATION IN THE PRO FORMA THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE HALF OF THE DEMANDS FROM THE CITY? BASED UPON DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PARK DIRECTOR? SINCE OUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR US TO ACTUALLY MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND SHOW THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE. OKAY, I'M INTERESTED IN MOSTLY YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS POINT. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS STILL ONE FACILITY ON ONE SITE. BUT I WAS ANSWERING THE QUESTION AS TO WHY WE DID THE SECOND. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR THIS THIS PRESENTATION FOR SURE. SO THE BIG ONE, THE BIG THE RECOMMENDED ONE. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE. WOULD YOU SAY FOOTPRINT WISE TO DUBLIN AND WESTERVILLE AND DUBLIN IS 110,000FT■!S. WESTERVILLE IS 120,000 OR 135,000FT■!S. AND WHN WE WERE AT WESTERVILLE, LIKE THEIR REVENUES WERE LIKE CLOSER TO 4 MILLION A YEAR, FOUR AND A HALF, LIKE, WHY DOES THIS SEEM SO LIKE HALF OF THAT OR IS IT. I MEAN, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT LESS THAT LESS OF A FOOTPRINT, I GUESS. SO THE REVENUES THAT WE

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HOWEVER, AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECT, WE DIDN'T HAVE A DESIGN TO SHOW AS PART OF THAT.

OTHERWISE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D BE ABLE TO POINT TO. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST REASON WE DIDN'T HAVE A DESIGN TO GO WITH IT. WE DID FOR THE SMALLER FACILITY, BUT NOT FOR THE LARGER FACILITY. SECONDLY IS THAT IN WESTERVILLE, THEY STARTED OUT AT A SMALLER AND THEN KEPT AND WE DID ALL THREE OF THE OF THE OF THE PERFORMANCE FOR EACH PHASE AS THEY WENT INTO IT. THE OTHER THING IS IN THEIR FACILITY, CURRENTLY THEY'RE ABOUT ALMOST 70% OF THE COST IS PEOPLE. AND STAFF. AND WE REALLY WENT WITH A LEAN MANAGEMENT APPROACH. IT'S STILL OPEN 100 HOURS A WEEK, BUT WE MET WITH MORE CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES IN THIS SITUATION THAN IN WESTERVILLE FROM A DEMAND POINT. FINAL QUESTION FROM A DEMAND STANDPOINT LIKE HOW DO YOU VIEW THE DEMAND OF THIS MODEL OR GROVE CITY JUST IN GENERAL IN JACKSON TOWNSHIP, SURROUNDING AREAS TO DUBLIN OR WESTERVILLE, WHICH WHAT'S GOING TO BE MORE SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE DAILY UTILIZATION, DO YOU THINK I WOULD SAY THE LARGER FACILITY? YEAH, YEAH. WESTERVILLE I DON'T KNOW. I'M WITH RANDY. I DON'T WANT WESTERVILLE, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE SIMILAR IN TYPE BECAUSE BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM HAVE SENIOR FACILITIES. THEY HAVE WALKING TRACK. THE THING IS AND IN DUBLIN THEY HAVE A BLACK BOX THEATER THAT'S THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WHICH I THINK SEATS LIKE 500 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 400. VERY NICE. SO WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS SITUATION, BUT IN WESTERVILLE, I WOULD SAY THAT WESTERVILLE MIRRORS WHAT WE HAD PROJECTED IN TERMS OF USAGE.

PHIL HAD MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MEMBERS. YOU CAN ALSO TAKE A DAILY, BUT WE ALSO YOU CAN TAKE THE FACILITY AND JUST DO A PROGRAM WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER OR DOING A DAILY. YOU CAN JUST HAVE A PROGRAM. HE DID MENTION INSURANCE, WHICH IS FOR MEDICARE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK IN THE BUILDING THAT MEDICARE PAYS FOR. THREE, THREE TRIPS A WEEK. AND THEY THEY THEY REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. OKAY, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I MEAN, MY JUST GENERAL SUMMARY IS I WANT TO GO BIG BANG, OKAY? I JUST WANT TO DO SOMETHING BIG AND GRAND AND SEE IF OUR CITIZENS WANT TO PAY FOR IT ONE DAY. SO, JODY, CHRISTINE, ANY COMMENTS? I WOULD SAY MY ONLY COMMENT IS REALLY ECHOING THE SENTIMENT. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION IN THE PRESENTATION BETWEEN THE RECOMMENDATION OF A LARGE AND A FOCUS ON A SMALL. I THINK THE STARTING POINT IS A LARGE IN MY MIND. UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT FACILITY WOULD LOOK LIKE, THE LAND THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SURROUNDINGS COULD LOOK LIKE, THE PARKING THAT IS NEEDED, POSSIBLE OUTDOOR FIELD SPACE THAT IT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE AREA. AND IF WE CAN'T DO IT ALL AT ONCE, HOW TO PHASE TOWARDS WHERE WE WANT TO BE? BUT TO ME, THE STARTING POINT IS THE VISION FOR WHAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH AND MAYBE REALITY GIVES US, YOU KNOW, HELPS US CHART A COURSE OVER TIME. BUT I'D REALLY RATHER START FROM SO IN THE NEXT STEPS, THE PROFORMA FOR THE SMALL BUILDING TO ME SHOULD SAY THE LARGER BUILDING. SO THANK YOU. YEAH, MY COMMENTS

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I DON'T THINK THAT ACREAGE EXISTS IN BROOK PARK. AND I THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY EXPRESSED WOULD, WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THOSE SPACES. WE HAVE LOTS OF PRIORITIES WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE BUDGET. I'M OBVIOUSLY TEN MONTHS, 11 MONTHS AS A NEWER COUNCIL PERSON, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK OF BUILDING A BRIDGE OVER 71, AND IT'S GOING TO AN ECONOMIC DRIVING AREA THAT IS A NEW LOCATION. THERE WOULDN'T BE TRAFFIC ALREADY THERE. THAT'S COMPROMISED. I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES EXIST DOWN AT SIX, 65 AND 71 THAT AREN'T ALREADY IN PLAY. IF SO, I REALLY THINK WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE SITE LOCATIONS OR IF THERE ARE OTHER SPACES. I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, WHERE ARE THOSE SPACES IN GROVE CITY THAT AREN'T IN THESE NEIGHBORHOOD POCKETS OR THAT AREN'T THAT MIGHT NOT ALREADY BE COMPROMISED BY TRAFFIC. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT'S ALWAYS COMES OUT WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS KIND OF A PRESENTATION. YOU KNOW, LIBRARIES ARE TYPICALLY OPEN ABOUT 55 TO 60 HOURS A WEEK, AND MAYBE YOURS MIGHT BE OPEN A LITTLE LONGER. I'M NOT SURE, BUT THIS BUILDING IS OPEN, YOU KNOW, 100, 110 HOURS. YOU GOTTA IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PUT ON AND PROVIDE THIS, BUT IT

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I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. A FEW QUESTIONS HERE. SO IN WE NEED AT LEAST 26 ACRES FOR THE LARGER FACILITY. CORRECT. A MINIMUM OF 20 A MINIMUM OF 20. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS RECOMMEND IS THE LARGEST. WHAT WHAT SHOULD WE HAVE? I MEAN, IF YOU WERE PIE IN THE SKY, WHAT SHOULD WE HAVE? WELL, I THINK PROBABLY IF YOU JUST IF IT'S JUST THE BUILDING. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT OUTDOOR FIELDS. I'M TALKING ABOUT IDEALLY IF YOU COULD HAVE 25 ACRES WOULD BE IDEAL. OKAY. THE ONE QUESTION I'VE GOT IS YOU MENTIONED AN EIGHT LANE POOL IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. SO ONE ONE CONCERN I ALWAYS HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO RENTING OUT FACILITIES AND EVERYTHING IS, YOU KNOW, THE TAXPAYERS OF GROVE CITY PAID FOR THIS AND EVERYTHING IS. AND HOW DO YOU ALLOW PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SWIM IN AN EIGHT LANE POOL DURING. I MEAN, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I MEAN, AND NOW, OH, ISSUE. IT'S VERY EASY. THEY'VE GOT TWO POOL, THEY'VE GOT THREE POOLS, INDOOR POOLS. AND IT'S VERY EASY TO DO THAT. HOW DO YOU DO IT HERE. BECAUSE THERE'S FOUR THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT BODIES OF WATER OKAY. THERE'S YOU KNOW COMPETITIVE WATER. THERE'S THERAPEUTIC WATER WHICH IS BASICALLY FOR ANY TYPE OF LEARN TO SWIM TYPE OF PROGRAMS THAT CAN SWIM IN IT. THERE'S PLAY WATER, WHICH IS MOVING WATER SLIDES. RIGHT. SPRAY WATER THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND THEN YOU CAN JUST HAVE JUST GENERAL POOL SPACE. THE INTENT IS A LOT OF TIMES IN COMPETITIVE WATER, IT'S COLDER WATER. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY ARE. THEY'RE INTO FITNESS AND THEY'RE INTO COMPETITION. SO THAT ONE, YOU CAN STILL SWIM IN IT IF YOU'RE JUST REGULAR PERSON, BUT THE WATER IS COLDER AND SO IT DEPENDS ON THE PROGRAM THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT. YOU HAVE A VENUE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND WANT TO RENT THE LAP POOL. YEAH. AND THOSE IN THE CITY WHO PAID FOR THE FACILITY CAN'T SWIM LAPS DURING THAT TIME. SAME THING GOES WITH THE GYMNASIUMS. THAT'S WHY THE SMALLER VENUE IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR ME BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. BUT BUT I YOU KNOW, I THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME EFFORT TO ALWAYS KEEP THE, THE COMMUNITY NUMBER ONE AS FAR AS THAT COST RECOVERY TO ME. DO A TEN LANE HAVE SIX LANES OR EIGHT LANES OPEN, KEEP 2 OR 3 LANES OPEN FOR YOU KNOW, YOUR MEMBERS.

THE INTENT IS EVEN WITH THE IF YOU HAVE FOUR GYMS, YOU STILL WANT TO AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN KEEP AT LEAST ONE GYM OPEN FOR YOUR MEMBERS, RIGHT? OKAY, SO IN FOR WESTERVILLE'S AQUATIC CENTER, HOW HOW BIG IS IT? I'D SAY IT'S NAN YOU. I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO 35,000FT■!S. OKAY. AND THIS ONES A 40,000. YEAH. OKAY. AND IT'S NOT THAT I CARE ABOUT THE SIZE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO DRAW A COMPARISON BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO WESTERVILLE'S. THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO DRAW THE COMPARISONS. THE AGAIN, REVENUE COST RECOVERY IS IMPORTANT, BUT YET IT'S NOT IMPORTANT TO ME PERSONALLY BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY THAT PAID FOR IT GETS TO USE IT FIRST. THE THEATER PORTION OF THAT, DID YOU GUYS PUT A NUMBER ON WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR THEATER AND THE ARTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE DID BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SHOW UP ON WE DIDN'T ASK IT ON THE QUESTION ON THE SURVEY AS A AS AN AMENITY. WE HAVE AN ARTS ROOM AS PART OF THAT. THAT'S WHERE THE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM COMES INTO PLAY. OKAY. AND THEN AND THEN IF WE WERE TO GO THE DIRECTION OF A OF AN OUTDOOR FIELD, AN INDOOR FIELD CENTER, LIKE FOR LACROSSE AND INDOOR SOCCER AND THAT TYPE OF THING, THAT DOESN'T, OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT AS EXTRAVAGANT AS WHAT WE'RE TALKING HERE. WHAT IS WHAT IS THE GENERAL COST OF THAT IF THAT WAS PART OF THIS FACILITY AS WELL TO, TO DO A LIKE A TURF FIELD, YOU MEAN, MAN, DO YOU HAVE THAT MAN'S GOT EVERYTHING OVER THERE. I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR US WHILE SHE'S LOOKING THAT UP. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT'S ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED THE PERCENTAGE OF USE TIME FOR RESIDENTS AND ENSURING THAT THAT'S LOCKED IN. SO TO GO BACK AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT ENSURING THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE USE OF THE FACILITY, IT'S ABOUT STRATEGICALLY DETERMINING WHEN THOSE SWIM MEETS WILL BE BECAUSE WITH 8 TO 12 TEAMS OR 8 TO 16 TEAMS WITHIN THAT SWIM MEET, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO USE IT. BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE PREDOMINANT USE, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S NOT TOURNAMENT FILLED EVERY WEEKEND WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY STILL HAS USE. SO WE HAVE SOME CLIENTS THAT ARE 6535 AS FAR AS RESIDENT USE VERSUS OTHERS, AS WELL AS ONE. THAT IS ALMOST WHA,

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[Approval of Minutes]

YES, MISS ANDERSON? YES. MR. SIEGRIST? YES, MISS HOUK. YES. MR. HOLT? YES, MR. BARRY. YES, MR. DU. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT WE DID HAVE MINUTES SENT TO COUNCIL FOR THE 1028 MEETING, AND I'M GOING TO HOLD THOSE OUT JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO READ THROUGH THEM AND SEND ANY QUESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO MISS KELLY TONIGHT. WELCOME, EVERYBODY. WE DON'T USUALLY HAVE STANDING ROOM ONLY CROWD, SO THIS IS EXCITING. BUT WE HAVE

[Presentation Lending a Helping Hand Program]

WHAT'S UP? HE'S IN A SUIT. I'M GOING TO THANK MY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WANT TO THANK THE

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THERE WAS A PAINTING PROVIDED BY BETHEL LUTHERAN CHURCH AND THEIR TEAM, AND THERE WAS ALSO PAINTING PERFORMED AND A SHED BROUGHT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW ROOF AND PAINTING AS WELL. AND YOU CAN SEE THE BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES. IF YOU COULD FLIP TO THE AFTER.

JUST AN AMAZING JOB. WHAT THESE WHAT THESE CHURCHES DID FOR US. OUR NEXT PROJECT WAS ON ORCHARD LANE. YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE YOU DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A HOUSE THERE OR NOT. WOW. SO WE RECRUITED THE MEN OF NAS FROM THE CHURCH OF NAZARENE, SOME 20 STRONG SHOWED UP ONE SATURDAY MORNING, AND IN LESS THAN THREE HOURS THEY HAD THIS HOUSE EXPOSED SO WE COULD SEE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY THERE ON THE LOT. JUST AN AMAZING JOB. THERE WAS A CASUALTY HERE ON THIS. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. I THINK OUT OF THE 20 VOLUNTEERS, 19 SUFFERED FROM POISON SUMAC. OOH, WOW. OUR THIRD COMPLETED PROJECT WAS ON INDEPENDENCE STREET. WE HAD AN ELDERLY COUPLE WHO WHO WERE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY. THEY THE LUMBER COST WAS KIND OF HURTING THEM AND THEY NEEDED TO HAVE PAINT. SO WE HAD PAINT LEFT OVER FROM OUR FIRST PROJECT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH TO SAY, GO AHEAD, DONATE THAT PAINT TO THIS PROJECT. SO THOSE RESIDENTS GOT HELP FROM NEIGHBORS AND FAMILY MEMBERS AND COMPLETED THEIR PROJECT AND BROUGHT IT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE. JUST AGAIN, ANOTHER AMAZING STORY HERE ON THIS PROJECT. WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER HERE TONIGHT, IF I MAY, PRESIDENT HAWK, HAVE THE SPEAKER COME FORWARD. IT'S ELIZABETH BRONSON AND SHE LIVES, I BELIEVE, ON ORCHARD LANE. MISS BRONSON. HI, EVERYBODY. HAVING LIVED AT 3900 ORCHARD LANE FOR 25 YEARS AND A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, I DID EXPERIENCE SOME CONCERNS. I MOVED TO A LOG CABIN IN LONDON TO LIVE OUT MY DREAMS OF PIONEER LIVING WITH WONDERFUL RENTERS ON ORCHARD LANE. I WAS STILL DEALING WITH SOME ISSUES. THEN ALONG CAME JED PLANK. BEING NEW IN HIS POSITION, HE WAS EAGER TO DO THINGS RIGHT WITH HE AND HIS STAFF. THEY SET A GOAL AND THEY GOT IT DONE. IT WAS NOT AN EASY PROJECT, BUT JED KEPT ME UPDATED

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THANKS AGAIN! WOW! THANK YOU MISS BRANSON. APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE TONIGHT AND SHARING THOSE THOUGHTS. AT THIS TIME. I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MAYOR STAGE MAYOR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CHURCHES STEP FORWARD. YEAH. WHY DON'T WE HAVE BETHEL COME FIRST? BETHEL LUTHERAN PASTOR RAY. THIS IS AMAZING. THE GROVE CITY HAS BEEN THE BEST HOME TOWN. THREE TIMES.

THIS KIND OF COOPERATION AND THIS KIND OF DEDICATION TO MAKING OUR COMMUNITY THE BEST IS A RESULT OF THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WE GOT AROUND THIS WALL. AND OUR EMPLOYEES. INCREDIBLE JOB. THANK YOU SO. HE PUTS A SUIT ON AND LOOK OUT. SO PASTOR BETHEL LUTHERAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS YOU YOU PUT IN. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT HOW MANY HOURS THAT 12 TO 15 HOURS, PROBABLY FOR OUR SMALL GROUP. YEAH. AND NO POISON IVY? NO, NOT THAT I KNOW OF. WE WANT TO PRESENT A FLAG OF THE CITY OF GROVE CITY AND JUST AGAIN, EXTEND THE APPRECIATION THE WHOLE COMMUNITY FOR A JOB WELL DONE. AND I NOTICED THE PRICE HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE NEVER DONE IN OUR BUDGETING WAS PUT MONEY IN TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE PAINT AND SOME OF THE OTHER MATERIAL. THIS YEAR FOR 2025, WE'RE GOING TO PUT $50,000 IN THE BUDGET EARMARKED FOR HELPING HANDS AND CONTINUE THIS GREAT PROGRAM. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT, COMMUNITY CHURCH OF CHRIST. THE PASTOR, I GUESS. WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOUR YOUR TEAM HERE? I'M MARTIN ROSS AND THIS IS AMY WAGNER. WE'RE PART OF THE PASTORATE AT OUR CHURCH, AND WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THIS. ONE OF OUR CORE VALUES IS VALUING THE WORTH OF ALL PERSONS AND THIS TYPE OF PROJECT REALLY GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. I WANT TO NOTE GIVE A WORD OF NOTICE TO MARK GAUNCE FOR LEADING THIS. HE. THIS IS HE LIKES TO GET HIS HANDS DIRTY AND HE LIKES TO GET THINGS DONE. AND HE DOES THAT. AND HE HAS A LOT OF GUYS WORKING WITH HIM THAT HELP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. WE ARE SO PLEASED TO BE A PART OF THIS.

THAT'S TERRIFIC. WE ARE BLESSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS TO YOUR TEAM. VERY, VERY, VERY WELL DONE. AND WHAT A COMMITMENT NEXT CHURCH TO NAZARENE. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY HERE TODAY.

OH MA'AM OKAY OR OKAY. THERE WE GO. MATT, DO YOU WANT TO. SURE, SURE. WE WE'RE KIND OF REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MEN OF NAS, WHICH IS THE MEN'S MINISTRY AT THE AT GROVE CITY AT THE NAS CHURCH. AND WE HAD LIKE, WE PROBABLY HAVE OVER 30, 35 GUYS KIND OF LIKE ON A LIST OF WILLING, WILLING TO HELP. BUT WE HAD ABOUT 20 SHOW UP AT THAT FIRST DAY, AND IT SEEMS WEIRD TO RECEIVE ANYTHING, ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY, ANY, ANY ACCOLADES AT ALL BECAUSE WE HAD FUN. I MEAN, WE JUST WE'RE WE'RE IDIOTS AND WE'RE DUMB AND WE'RE JUST WE GOT OUT THERE, WE HAD A BLAST, THOUGH. TODD HAS A LOT OF TOOLS. I DON'T KNOW WHY HE HAS SO MANY TOOLS, BUT WE GOTTA. WE BURNT THINGS. I SHOULDN'T TELL YOU EVERYTHING. WE DID, BUT IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. BUT WE BUT WE I MEA, WE LITERALLY ENJOYED THE OPPORTUNITY AND JUST WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ANYTHING WE CAN DO COMING UP. SO WE GOT A BUNCH OF GUYS. JOHN BEARD IS OUR DUDE. HE IS OUR OUR LEADER OF THE OF THE FORCE. YEAH. LOOK AT HIM GO. THAT'S HIM. HE'S THE MAN. BUT WE'RE WE'RE ALL RALLYING AROUND HIM AND WE'RE JUST WE'RE EAGER TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN. SO THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, VERY MUCH. OKAY. FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, GROVE CITY. PASTOR ROB

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THERE'S NO WAY SHE'S GOING TO GET ALL THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JEFF. BUILDING DEPARTMENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. GREAT. KICKOFF TO THE EVENING AND WE WILL GET RIGHT INTO A READ THROUGH OF OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. UNDER LANDS. WE HAVE ORDINANCE C, 4124 C 4224, C 4324 AND C 4424. UNDER FINANCE, WE HAVE ORDINANCE C 4624, C 4724, C 4824, C 4924, C 5024, C 5124, C 5224 AND C 5324. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THIS

[Ordinance C-41-24 Approve the Plat for Farmstead, Phase 5B. Second reading and public hearing]

SUBDIVISION AND THE EASEMENTS WHERE INDICATED ON THE PLAT FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICES. IT'S THAT SIMPLE. WE DO HAVE JEREMY VAN OSTRAND, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY OR JUST HEAR, JUST QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMENTS, ANY FROM COUNCIL ON THAT? NOPE. WITH THAT, THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. I MOVE THAT IT BE APPROVED. SECOND. ME SORRY, MISS ANDERSON.

YES. MR. SIEGRIST? YES, MISS HAWK? YES. MR. HOLT? YES, MR. BARRY. YES, MR. DU. YES. MISS

[Ordinance C-42-24 Approve a Special Use Permit for a Car Rental business for Avis Budget Car Rental located at 2189 Stringtown Road. Second reading and public hearing. ]

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YEAH, I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT. I'VE BEEN OVER THERE SEVERAL TIMES AND EVERYTHING. AND WHILE I DO SUPPORT AVIS, I'VE USED THEM OFTEN. THIS THAT PARKING LOT IS ALREADY CRAMPED ENOUGH WITHOUT ADDING THIS USE. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, MISS ANDERSON. THANK YOU. I THINK HAD YOU STATED THE NUMBER OF CAR RENTAL SPACES THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT? YES. THEY'RE REQUESTING 15 PARKING SPACES WITH THE CLEANING AND OF THE VEHICLES BEHIND THE RETAIL BUILDING BEHIND THE BUILDING. THANK YOU. AND I THINK I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A GENERAL STATEMENT AS WELL, TOO. I HAD ASKED THE QUESTION IN CAUCUS, WHAT IF THE CAR RENTAL PLACE IS DOING GREAT AND WANTS TO BRING IN MORE, MORE CARS? BECAUSE I DO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND CONCERNS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE PARKING LOT. ANYTHING OVER 15 WOULD REQUIRE THE PERMIT HOLDER TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND MR. RAUSCH, YOU DID CONFIRM THAT THAT WOULD THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS. YES. THANK YOU. YES. YES, PLEASE. IF THAT IS GENERATING QUESTIONS ON YOUR BEHALF. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YES, CHRIS. STEVE'S GOING TO ADDRESS OR. YEAH. ADDRESS 3937 SOUTH 26TH AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS. AS FAR AS THE PARKING SPACES. JUST JUST KNOW THAT RENTING THE CARS, THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THE CARS OUT ON RAMP. WE DON'T REALLY PLAN ON KEEPING CARS THERE. THAT'S NOT THE GOAL. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CAUSE ANY CONGESTION IN THE PARKING WE WOULD USE WOULD BE TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT. WE MAYBE HAVE 1 OR 2 SPOTS TOWARDS THE FRONT. EVERYTHING ELSE WE WOULD PUSH TO THE BACK NOT TO INCONVENIENCE THE OTHER BUSINESSES. AND ARE THE PARKING SPOTS DESIGNATED OR WILL IT SAY AVIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OR THEY'LL JUST PARK WHEN SOMEONE RETURNS A CAR WHERE THERE'S AN OPEN SPOT, WHEREVER IN THE PARKING SO THEY'RE NOT DESIGNATED. SO IF THE CUSTOMER RETURNS CLOSE UP, THEN THEY'LL RETURN. THEY'LL MOVE THE CARS FURTHER BACK OR AROUND TO THE BACK TO CLEAN THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT DESIGNATED. OKAY. AND THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD TO AND JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW ABSOLUTELY AND THE GOAL IS TO NOT HAVE CARS THERE IN THE PARKING LOT AND HAVE THEM OUT BEING USED. THANK YOU, MR. HOLT. WHERE DO THE PEOPLE PARK THAT ARE RENTING A CAR AS FAR AS THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLE? THAT WOULD BE ONE. AND IF THEY COME IN TO DO PAPERWORK, THEY PARK SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, THEY DON'T PARK IN THOSE 15 PLACES. THEY'RE GOING TO PARK UP FRONT, CLOSE TO THE OFFICE, GO INTO THE PAPERWORK, THEN GET THEIR CAR. THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME PICK UP THEIR OTHER CAR CORRECTLY. CORRECT. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, IN ANY OF OUR LOCATIONS, THE CUSTOMERS DO NOT PARK AT OUR LOCATIONS. IT'S UP TO THEM TO EITHER BE DROPPED OFF OR HAVE ARRANGEMENT FOR TWO DRIVERS OR WHATEVER. THEY TAKE THEIR CAR WITH THEM WHEN THEY LEAVE. AS FAR AS WHEN THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE RENTING THE CAR.

YEAH, THEY MIGHT TAKE A POSITION UP FRONT. TYPICALLY SPEAKING, IN OUR LOCAL STORES WE DON'T HAVE BUT MAYBE 1 OR 2 CUSTOMERS IN AN HOUR. SO WE WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE A BIG RUSH OR A L CUSTOMERS AT ONE TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE, MR. STEEVES, IS I GUESS THE YOU'LL HAVE AN OFFICE THERE RIGHT IN THE BUILDING. YES. LONG BUILDIN.

AND RIGHT NEXT TO IT, I BELIEVE THE CHINA BUFFET. OKAY. AND THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED YOU TO RENT THE SPACE IF THEY THOUGHT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ENOUGH THE CARS, I MEAN. CORRECT. WE DID DO A SPACE EVALUATION. YES. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, FOR ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND MAYBE THE PROCESS YOU WENT THROUGH TO PICK THAT LOCATION. WE WORKED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH SPACE AVAILABLE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC

[01:20:07]

[Ordinance C-43-24 Approve a Special Use Permit for a Drive-Thru for Credit Union of Ohio located at 2336 Stringtown Road. Second reading and public hearing. ]

MISS HOUK YES, MR. HOLT? YES, MR. BARRY. YES. MR. DUERR. YES, MISS. ANDERSON. YES, MISS BURROUGHS. YES, MR. SIEGRIST. YES. SORRY I SCREWED UP THE ORDER THERE. OKAY. YOU'RE IN TRAINING. IT'S HARDER THAN YOU THINK TO DO THIS RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. FINAL ITEM UNDER OUR

[Ordinance C-44-24 Approve a Special Use Permit for a Drive-Thru for JP Morgan Chase Bank located at 2811 London-Groveport Road. Second reading and public hearing. ]

APPLICANT. MISS. MRS. FOWLER AND JUST HERE FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MR. ROUSE. YOU OKAY? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THIS EASY TONIGHT FOR ME ON THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. I MOVE IT BE APPROVED. SECOND, MR. HOLT. YES, MR. BERRY? YES. MR. DU. YES, MISS BURROUGHS. YES, MISS ANDERSON. YES, MR. SIEGRIST. YES, MISS HOUK. YES, MADAM CHAI, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR. THANK YOU

[Ordinance C-46-24 Authorize the City Administrator to enter into an Agreement with Plattenburg & Associates for Annual Financial Audits. Second reading and public hearing. ]

THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND I MOVE IT BE APPROVED A SECOND. MR. BARRY? YES, MR. DU. YES, MISS BURROWS? YES, MR. ANDERSON. YES. MR. SIEGRIST. YES, MISS HAUCK? YES. MR. HOLT? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

[Ordinance C-47-24 Authorize the City Administrator to enter into an Agreement for GIS Software Services. Second reading and public hearing ]

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[Ordinance C-48-24 Authorize the City Administrator to execute the amended and restated Central Ohio Health Care Consortium Joint-Insurance Agreement. Second reading and public hearing. ]

[Ordinance C-49-24 Declaring the improvement of certain real property located in the City to be a public purpose, exempting 100%of the value of such improvement from real property taxation for 30 years; creating the Harris Farm TIF Incentive District; declaring the improvements to real property within the Incentive District to be a public purpose; exempting 100% of the value of such improvements within the Incentive District from real property tax for 30 years; describing the public infrastructure improvements made or to be made to directly benefit or serve the parcels for which improvements are declared to be a public purpose; requiring the owners of parcels for which improvements are declared to be a public purpose to make annual service payments in lieu of taxes during the periods of exemption; establishing a Municipal Public Improvement Tax Increment Equivalent Fund for the deposit of such service payments; and approving related matters. First reading]

EXCELLENT. MIKE. HOW ABOUT THAT? GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE CITY STAFF. JIM ROCK, 1111 LENNON GROVEPORT ROAD, GROVE CITY. JACKSON TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE WITH ME, I HAVE RON MCCLURE, TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE. RANDY LITTLE, FIRE CHIEF, AND SHANE FARNSWORTH, OUR ADMINISTRATOR. I REALIZE I'M OUT AHEAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER, AND THAT'S ON PURPOSE. THE TOWNSHIP, WE PASSED A RESOLUTION REQUESTING A COMPENSATION AGREEMENT REGARDING THE HARRIS DEVELOPMENT TIF. I KNOW THAT PUBLIC HEARINGS IN TWO WEEKS, AND WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION THEN, BUT WE'RE JUST VERY SIMPLY IN THAT COMPENSATION AGREEMENT ASKING IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP THE FIRE FUND MONEY TO FUND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AS THE TIME GOES ON.

OVER THAT 30, 30 YEARS IN THE PAST, THERE HAS BEEN COMPENSATION AGREEMENTS, I BELIEVE, ON THE MAJORITY. ALL THE TIFS. IS THAT PRETTY TRUE? CLOSE TO ALL OF THEM. MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE DONE DIFFERENT THINGS. MONEY IN LIEU, ADMIRES A COUPLE MEDICS FOR THE BEULAH TIF. YES, AND THEN ABOUT A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF OF THE FIRE STATION BECAUSE OF THE PINNACLE TIFF. SO WE'RE JUST HERE TO GET OUT AHEAD OF THIS AND HOPES THAT DURING THAT TWO WEEK PERIOD COMING UP, WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY JUST AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST, TO COME TO SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION FOR AGREEABLE COMPENSATION. IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY QUESTIONS ON

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BECAUSE WE IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE HAVE BEEN OFFERS MADE AND BUT THERE'S BEEN NO AGREEMENT. YES. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR OFFERS. WELL THE FIRST OFFER WAS THAT IF THE TOWNSHIP BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT THE TOWNSHIP AS A WHOLE, I MEAN, IT'S A IT'S A MACRO VIEW. OUR CITIZENS ARE 80 SOME PERCENT OF THE TOWNSHIP. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TOWNSHIP CONSTITUENTS VOTING, THERE'S 80 SOME PERCENT THAT ARE VOTING OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO ACTIVITIES THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE CITY, BY THE TOWNSHIP IS ZERO. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO START PAYING FOR SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE SUPPLY FOR THE TOWNSHIP, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY PUT ON THE TABLE. BUT WITH US PAYING FOR THE CODA LIBRARY, AND WE'VE GONE DOWN THROUGH THAT LIST 14 TIMES, THAT THAT WAS NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED. I DON'T BELIEVE, AS TO WHETHER IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A VIABLE SOLUTION. CHAIR SIEGRIST, IF I MAY. YEAH, JUST THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS YOUR OFFER WAS FOR THEM TO PAY US AS AN OFFSET OF THINGS HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS AND WITH THE VALUE OF THE AGGREGATE REAL ESTATE WITHIN JACKSON TOWNSHIP, THAT IS GROSSLY PROPERTIES THAT WE RECEIVE NO BENEFIT. SO IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT, I THINK, MORE THAN A PAY. IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT FOR WHAT OUR CITIZENS ARE PAYING TO THE TOWNSHIP AND MAKE AVAILABLE TO OUR OTHER PROGRAMS.

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OWE US IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD. IT'S A IT'S A CASE OF, AGAIN, OUR CITIZENS PAYING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TAXES THAT ARE NOT FIRE DEPARTMENT DIRECTED, THAT SHOULD BE SHARED WITH OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. AND MR. ROCK SUGGESTED MAYBE WE GO WITH A SHORTER TIFF AND OUR COUNTER ON THAT WAS FINE. WE CAN GO WITH A SHORTER TIFF START REIMBURSING FOR SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY OFFER OFFER THAT WAS PUT ON THE TABLE. THAT'S A HORSE OF A DIFFERENT COLOR. QUITE RIGHT. I'M UNDERSTANDING. I HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WILL LOOK FOR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF EVERYTHING THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES FOR THE CITY. WE CAN DO THAT IN TWO WEEKS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN WHAT YOU PRESENTED A COUPLE OF TIMES AT COUNCIL AND IN A MEETING UPSTAIRS WITH THE TRUSTEES. BUT YET WE'LL PRESENT OFFSETTING BANTER, I GUESS. BUT WE'RE HERE FOR THE TRUE COMPENSATION AGREEMENT, MR. ROCK. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF MY NUMBERS ARE RIGHT, A $9 MILLION DIFFERENCE OVER 30 YEARS, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT IT IN MY HEAD HERE, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU THROUGH CHARTS, GRAPHS, WHATEVER IS NECESSARY, HOW THAT FUNDING WILL HELP OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT GROW WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEN I SAY THE COMMUNITY, I MEAN THE GREATER COMMUNITY. GROVE CITY, URBANCREST TOWNSHIP, 41MI■!S, ALMOST 50 000 PEOPLE AND PROBABLY ON A HOLIDAY WEEKEND.

CHRISTMAS SHOPPING. IT COULD BE A 60,000 PERSON COMMUNITY. THERE'S JUST SO MUCH MORE TO IT, YOU KNOW, PROTECTION ON 71 NORTH SOUTH, 270 EAST WEST. WE GOT RIVERS. I MEAN, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES A TREMENDOUS SERVICE TO THIS GREATER COMMUNITY. SO WE'LL BRING THAT INFORMATION IN TWO WEEKS, UNLESS THERE'S SOME COMMUNICATION BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. QUICK QUESTION AS WELL, JUST FOR CLARITY. SO CHAIR, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MR. HOLT, FOR IDENTIFYING THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, TOO, THAT THERE ARE STILL FUNDS, EVEN WITH THIS TIFF THAT WOULD GO TO JACKSON TOWNSHIP, THAT THAT ARE PROTECTED. IS THAT ACCURATE? I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THERE'S 4 MILLION THAT STILL DO COME. I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE FULL AMOUNT. I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE ASK. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD SAID ABOUT TALKING WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS AND, AND LEVIES THAT THEY HAD VOTED ON, THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME LIKE SOME OF THOSE LEVIES ARE PROTECTED. IT'S THE ADDITIONAL 9 MILLION THAT'S NOT PROTECTED. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. SECRET. YOU STATED THAT YOU JUST WANT TO WORK WITH US ON PROTECTING THE FIRE FUNDS, BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR ROAD FUNDS AS WELL. BE AVAILABLE FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. AND I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT MANY TIMES. WHITE ROAD FOR ROAD. WE JUST DID IT WITH THE COUNTY ON BROWN AND DYER ROAD. I MEAN, WE COLLABORATE WITH SEVERAL AGENCIES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT. GROVE CITY IS A CITY WITHIN A TOWNSHIP. YES, IT IS. AND MOST OF MANY OF OUR ROADS ARE TOWNSHIP THAT SURROUND US AS AS PROPERTY IS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, LIVING OFF OF HAWTHORNE PARKWAY AND BORE ROAD AND REPRESENTING ALL THE CITIZENS OF GROVE CITY IN MY POSITION BEFORE I WAS ELECTED TO COUNCIL, I HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT IN GENERAL, AND THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ALSO DID AS WELL. AND THE BIGGEST WAS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH MR. SIEGRIST MENTIONED ABOUT 665, WHICH AGAIN IS THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT. WE DON'T OWN THAT ROAD CITY, THE TOWNSHIP. IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ODOT RIGHT. BUT BOWER ROAD IS PROBABLY A CRUCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT THAT HAS TO HAPPEN AS THIS PROJECT CONTINUES TO DEVELOP FROM PROBABLY FROM 665 UP TO QUAIL CREEK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PROJECT'S GOING TO COST OR WHAT THE TIMELINE IS ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A TALKING POINT. ABSOLUTELY. AND MAYBE WE COULD. AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE DID IT ON WHITE ROAD. WE DID IT ON THE OTHER SECTION OF BORE

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IT'S THEIR ROAD. AND I ESTIMATE THAT 4 TO $5 MILLION. SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN GOING ON.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE THESE LARGE DEMANDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE WITH NO MEANS OF FINANCING. AND WE'VE SAT IN THIS CHAMBER FOR MANY YEARS SAYING WE NEED IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT 665 AREA, AND WE HAVE NO RESOLUTION OF THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO FUNDING SOURCE. THIS PROJECT GIVES US A FUNDING SOURCE. IT GIVES THE TOWNSHIP $4 MILLION. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A LARGE DEMAND FOR SERVICE FOR WHAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE. BUT AGAIN, IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE. AND I REALIZE THERE'S MANY ASPECTS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO NARRATE HERE IN THIS MEETING, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO DISCUSSION. AND I THINK WE DO PARTNER WELL WITH, WITH WITH THE TOWNSHIP AND EVERYTHING WE DO WITH THEM IN TERMS OF OUR IT SUPPORT, IN TERMS OF OUR DISPATCHING AND A NUMBER OF OTHER OTHER THINGS. BUT AGAIN, THE DISCUSSION CONTINUES. THANK YOU. AND JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU DO OUR IT AND OUR INTERNET SUPPORT AND EVERYTHING, BUT WE GET A SMALL DISCOUNT FROM YOU. I'M SURE. BUT THOSE ARE SERVICES WE PAY FOR. WELL, WE PAY SOLIDLY IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS FOR THOSE TWO SERVICES. I MEAN, AS WE'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SHORTEN THE PERIOD OF TIME. THAT'S LESS REVENUE. IT'S LESS MONEY TO GO TO PROJECTS. IF ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS IS, WE WANT TO MAKE THIS FOR TEN YEARS, WE DO THE PROJECTIONS AND IT JUST INCLUDES MORE ROAD, AND WE'RE DONE.

THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY A TALKING POINT. SO OKAY, AS LONG AS WE'RE TALKING THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TWO WEEKS AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF PRESSURE ON COUNCIL TO TRY AND CIPHER THROUGH THIS AND 10 OR 15 MINUTES AND MAKE A SOLID DECISION THAT ONE WE'RE TALKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND TWO, WE'RE TALKING 30 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN GOVERNMENT 25, 30 YEARS OUT. I KNOW THAT 30 YEARS THAT PUT ME IN THAT HOPEFULLY I WON'T BE IN IT. THIS COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, SAFER. AND THAT'S THAT 665 QUADRANT WITHOUT IT, WE'LL BE TALKING ANOTHER TEN YEARS. ALL RIGHT. IF I COULD, MR. SPEAKER. I MEAN, THIS IS VERY HELPFUL, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED FRIDAY. WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT A MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS. AND WE GET A LETTER TONIGHT THAT YOU PASSED A RESOLUTION. WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE THERE FRIDAY TO HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL. THAT WAS A REGULAR TOWNSHIP MEETING AS FAR AS PASSING A TOWNSHIP RESOLUTION.

WELL, WE DIDN'T GET I DIDN'T I DIDN'T GET A NOTICE. I KNOW THAT SHANE, OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR, WE HAD THE PRESS SHOW UP. WELL, AS I SAY, WE NEED THESE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS. AND THAT WAS SCHEDULE BLINDSIDED. AND YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME. THANK YOU. SURE. ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST HAVE ONE KINDERGARTEN COMMENT TO MAKE TO THIS. IF THERE'S MONIES THAT THIS GENERATES THAT BEYOND THE IMPROVEMENTS OF HAWTHORNE ROAD STATE ROUTE 665 BORE ROAD THAT THAT COULD BE SOME KIND OF

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[Ordinance C-50-24 Authorize the City Administrator to enter into an Agreement for Voice Services. First reading. ]

FIRST READING. FIRST READING THIS ORDINANCE AT ITS FIRST READING, SECOND READING PUBLIC

[Ordinance C-51-24 Authorize the City Administrator to enter into an Agreement for Public Internet Services. First reading. ]

[Ordinance C-52-24 Authorize the City Administrator to enter into an Agreement for Data Center Services. First reading.]

[Ordinance C-53-24 Appropriate $23,750.00 from the Senior Nutrition Fund for Current Expenses. First reading. ]

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WE'RE IN THE TOP 5% EASILY OF COUNTRIES ON THE PLANET, PROBABLY IN THE TOP 10% OF EASILY IN THE TOP 10% OF CITIES, PROBABLY IN THE TOP 5% OF CITIES. THIS IS EFFECTIVELY THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE FOR SOMEONE THAT'S MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. I IMAGINE IF YOU MAKE TOO MUCH, YOU COULD PROBABLY FIND SOMETHING BETTER. BUT FOR THE AVERAGE JOE, THIS IS THE GREATEST PLACE THERE IS. BUT THAT CREATES A PROBLEM OF RELATIVITY. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE REAL PROBLEMS. WE DON'T HAVE A DANGEROUS AREA OR A TERRIBLE AREA. WE HAVE RELATIVELY WORSE, RELATIVELY BETTER. SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT ISSUES.

I'VE SEEN SENTIMENTS OF THE CITY LACKING, GIVING ATTENTION, NOT GIVING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO BROAD, BUT GIVING ALL OF ITS ATTENTION TO STRINGTOWN. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT JUST SIMPLY DON'T PAY ATTENTION. THEY ONLY SEE THEIR OWN LITTLE CORNERS, AND THEY THINK ONE'S BETTER, ONE'S WORSE, WHATEVER. I GUESS I WANTED TO BRING ATTENTION TO BROAD TODAY. NORTH BROAD IS EFFECTIVELY SELF-SERVICING. IT HAS SO MUCH TRAFFIC THAT NO MATTER WHAT CONDITION A BUSINESS IS IN, IT WILL GET VOLUNTARY PEDESTRIAN, BICYCLE AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND IT WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MONETARILY SELF-IMPROVE UPDATE, MOVE FORWARD, DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR BUSINESS. SOUTH BROAD DOES NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE DO NOT HAVE A VOLUNTARY TRAFFIC SITUATION ON SOUTH BROAD. WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE PASS THROUGH. WE ARE THE IOWA OF GROVE CITY. WE PEOPLE SIMPLY PULL INTO MONA'S AND PULL OUT AND THE SIDE BUSINESSES GET TO WATCH THIS. I IMAGINE THEY FEEL PAIN FOR IT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO REASON TO VOLUNTARILY TRAFFIC THROUGH THE AREA. IT THE AREA BASICALLY HAS AN IDENTITY CRISIS. YOU HAVE THE CARCASS OF A PROPANE BUSINESS. YOU HAVE A GIANT, GORGEOUS MEDICAL BUILDING THAT FOR SOME REASON IS VACANT.

YOU HAVE LOTS OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE. IT DOESN'T LIKE ME. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO CHERISH. WE HAVE A FURNITURE REPAIR STORE. WE HAVE AN APPLIANCE REPAIR STORE. WE HAVE A GAMING STORE. I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, BUT I KNOW THESE PLACES ARE A DYING BREED. I KNOW OVER HERE WE HAVE A SHOE REPAIR PLACE. IT'S CRAZY. THESE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT SHOULD EXIST, BUT IT DOES. PEOPLE ACTUALLY PATRON THESE PLACES. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT THE CITY GIVE SOME ATTENTION TO SOUTH BROAD. I UNDERSTAND THAT NORTH BROAD MIGHT GET MORE ATTENTION BECAUSE THEY'RE AT THE FRONT OF THE PAGE. WE ARE THE BACK OF THE. WE ARE THE BACK OF THE PAGE, EFFECTIVELY. BUT THEY CAN SELF-SERVICE. THEY HAVE TRAFFIC. WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELF-SERVICE OR WE SIMPLY NEED INVESTMENT. AND I DON'T EXPECT SOMETHING TREMENDOUS. BUT I WOULD REQUEST SOME KIND OF STOPGAP, AN ATTRACTION, ANYTHING. IF WE CAN CONNECT RANCH ROAD TO VENTURA TO WELL, HOOVER PARK IS CONNECTED. RANCH ROAD IS NOT YET. RANCH ROAD SIMPLY HAS NO WAY TO BIKE OVER.

BUT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE, AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT. SO THAT WAS MY ENTIRE POINT OF BEING HERE TODAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY BEFORE I TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MAYOR STAGE FOR HIS REPORT, THERE'S FROM MY SEAT. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE, ILYA? FOUR YEARS. FOUR YEARS? YEAH. SO IN I CAME HERE IN 1994, AND I THINK IN REALLY RECENT TIMES, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA. AND I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT WE HAVE, I THINK PROJECT COMING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT BECOMES CONTAGIOUS AND LANDMARKS. YEAH. WE HAVE NO WE HAVE NO ANCHORS. SO THE AREA EFFECTIVELY IS BORING. NOBODY WANTS TO BE THERE, RIGHT. COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S IGNORED EVERYTHING I WHAT I SENT OUT IGNORE THAT OKAY. SO HAPPY WITH THAT. THANK YOU. WE'RE I THINK YOU SAID HEAVEN ON EARTH. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. SO VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MAYOR. STAGE.

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NOTHING ADDITIONAL. THANKS PRESIDENT. THANK YOU MISTER BOZO. WHEN YOU GET THE ROI FOR BROAD STREET LIVE, CAN YOU SEND IT OUT TO US OR SUMMARIZE IT FOR US? YES, I SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING OUT TO YOU BY THE END OF THE WEEK. THANKS. IT MAY NOT BE THE COMPLETED THING, BUT IT WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SITUATION IS IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL ASPECT. AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISTER SMITH. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. AND TODD, UNPLUG THE BEEPING THING SO IT WON'T BEEP ANYMORE. GOOD. THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE ROOM. MISTER VIERA, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. TWO THINGS I JUST. FOR YOUR AWARENESS, WE ARE GOING TO OPEN OUR CITY EOC TOMORROW. EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. THAT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY AND MANY OF THE OTHER SUBURBS, SIMILAR TO OUR EFFORTS IN 2020. FOR THAT GENERAL ELECTION. IT'S AN EFFORT WITH OUR DIVISION OF POLICE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS A SAFE ELECTION TOMORROW. SO THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION, A LOT OF PLANNING, A LOT OF THINGS IN PLACE, BUT OUR HOPE IT'LL BE A NICE, QUIET AFTERNOON. SECOND THING IS, ON NOVEMBER 20TH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER ORIENTATION FOR MANY OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS. THE COUNCIL ARE INVITED TO SEE SOME OF THAT AND MAYBE EVEN IT WON'T BE A FULL BLOWN EXERCISE, BUT WE'LL TALK THROUGH ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. MAYBE THE WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE AND HOW OF THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. SO NOVEMBER 20TH, 10 A.M. TO ABOUT NOON IS PLANNED, BUT I DON'T EXPECT IT'LL TAKE TWO HOURS. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO CLOSING COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. MR. DO I HAVE NOTHING AT THIS TIME? MR. BARRY? WE JUST HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, ESPECIALLY ON THE REC CENTER. SO STAY TUNED. MR. HOLT. NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BURROUGHS. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY AND THOSE LISTENING ONLINE ABOUT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING, THAT THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT, I BELIEVE, IS HAVING ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7TH OF THIS WEEK AT 1 P.M. AND 6 P.M. FOR THE COLUMBUS STREET IMPROVEMENTS. I KNOW THAT'S GOING I'M SORRY, I THINK YOU SAID THAT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

OH I WAS YEAH, IT'LL BE HERE. I WAS THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT THOUGH IS PUTTING THAT ON RIGHT.

YES. AT CITY HALL NOVEMBER 7TH AT 1 P.M. AND 6 P.M. JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ANDERSON. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU, MR. SIEGRIST.

NOTHING SPECIAL. THANKS. I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THE CLIFFSNOTES VERSION OF WHAT I BROUGHT WITH ME THIS EVENING. I HAD A WEIRD SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE MY PHONE RANG OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND I FINALLY ANSWERED IT BECAUSE, WELL, I'M A MOM. AND SO EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBER WAS NOT RECOGNIZABLE TO ME, I THOUGHT MAYBE THIS IS AN EMERGENCY. AND IT WAS A WOMAN FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO TOLD ME THAT I HAD BEEN SCAMMED, CALLING HER FROM MY CELL PHONE NUMBER, AND SHE WANTED TO LET ME KNOW. AND SO I HAD A NICE CHAT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE ABOUT SCAMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY TARGETING OUR RESIDENTS RESIDENTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, BUT A GOOD RESOURCE FOR ALL OF YOU. AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO POINT YOU TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S WEBSITE. SCAMS TARGETING OHIOANS MORE THAN YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE THAT THEIR CREATIVITY THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO THINK IF THEY WERE USING

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