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[1. Call to order and roll call. ]

[00:00:03]

I, SAID OKAY, WELL I'LL FIND THE BORDER. ALL I ASKED THE ACTING SECRETARY TO CALL THE ROLL. MR. BRANDT, PRESENT, MR. HAHN. PRESENT. MR. HELLINGA. ALL RIGHT. HE HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS FOR US TO STAND AND HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. SO STAND. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. THE NEXT

[3. Approve the minutes from the October 28, 2024 meeting of the Board of Zoning Appeals.]

ITEM WE HAVE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 28TH, 2024 MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. I SECOND THAT. I WILL THE SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL. MR. BRANT? YES. MR. HAHN? YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE

[4. Organizational Items – Elect a Chair and Vice Chair]

IS THE ORGANIZATION OF THE BOARD, WHICH WE DO EVERY YEAR. AND WE ARE GOING TO ELECT A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR. I WILL NOMINATE MR. HOLLINGER FOR THE CHAIR. I WILL SECOND THAT. OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? THERE BEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS, I'LL ASK THE SECRETARY TO CALL THE ROLL. MR. HAHN? YES. MR. BRANT? YES. OKAY, THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS TO ELECT A VICE CHAIR. I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR MR. BRANT. AND I'LL SECOND THAT. AND I'LL ASK THE SECRETARY TO CALL THE ROLL. MR. BRANT? YES. MR. HAHN? YES. OKAY, THEN. WE'VE DULY ELECTED THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR, AND THEY WILL SERVE THEIR REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. THE NEXT ITEM OF

[5. Hear the appeal of Oliver Holtsberry, DaNite Sign Company, representing tenant Rob Limberg of Renew Martial Arts for 4159 Kelnor Dr., (Parcel #040-006279) for the following variance.]

BUSINESS IS TO HEAR THE APPEAL OF OLIVER ROSEBERRY OF TONIGHT SIGN COMPANY, WHO'S REPRESENTING TENANT ROB LINDBERGH OF RENEW MARTIAL ARTS, LOCATED AT 4159 KELLNER DRIVE. PARCEL NUMBER 040. HYPHEN 006279, FOR THE FOLLOWING VARIANCE. A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1145 .16, PARAGRAPH THREE TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED FOR WALL SIGNAGE OF 85FT BY 146FT, FOR A TOTAL COMBINED WALL SIGNAGE FOR ALL TENANTS OF 185FT■!S. IS THEE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WISHES TO TESTIFY ON THAT? YES. WILL YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND THEN BE SWORN BY THE SECRETARY? YES. MY NAME IS OLIVER ROSEBERRY. OKAY. IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME, OR JUST AFFIRM THIS, ACTUALLY. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT IN YOUR TESTIFYING AT YOUR OWN FREE WILL, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES, I DO. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. ROSEBERRY, PLEASE MAKE A PRESENTATION OF WHY YOU WANT THE VARIANCE. YES. SO WE INITIALLY HAD FILED A SIGN PERMIT FOR RENEW MARTIAL ARTS TO HAVE A NEW WALL SIGN. THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A SIGN ON THE BUILDING AS WELL. THEY'VE UNDERWENT A NAME CHANGE.

SO THE REBRANDING. AND SO WE FOUND OUT WHEN WE FILED THAT SIGN PERMIT THAT THE BUILDING HAD TOO MANY SIGNS ALREADY, PER THE ZONING CODE. IT'S A BIT OF AN INTERESTING SITUATION. THE SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT IS BEING SHOWN RIGHT NOW. IT ESSENTIALLY TAKES UP, LIKE ALL THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. THAT IS ALLOWED FOR SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING, BUT THE WHOLE

[00:05:01]

OTHER FACADE THERE ON THE SIDE FACADE HAS, I BELIEVE IT'S THREE DIFFERENT TENANTS, AND THEY ALL HAVE SIGNAGE RIGHT NOW. SO IT WAS REALLY OVER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED ALREADY. WE ACTUALLY DID THAT. ALL CRITTERS SIGN ABOUT A YEAR AGO, BUT I THINK IT IT IT WASN'T CAUGHT DURING THAT TIME THAT THE BUILDING HAD TOO MUCH SIGNAGE. SO WHEN WE FILED THIS ONE, IT WAS CAUGHT AND THEY REALIZED THAT WE NEEDED TO FILE A VARIANCE TO ALLOW SIGNAGE FOR THESE ADDITIONAL TENANTS. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE JUST SO EACH TENANT CAN HAVE A WALL SIGN ABOVE THEIR ENTRANCE OF WHERE THEIR CUSTOMERS WOULD COME IN. REALLY, THE ONLY CHANGE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE NEW RENEW MARTIAL ARTS SIGN. EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO REMAIN AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. SO YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF MY INITIAL COMMENTS, BUT I SEEN THAT. YEAH, THERE'S ALREADY EXISTED THERE'S A MARTIAL ARTS PLACE THERE NOW. RIGHT. LIKE EIGHT, 8 OR 8. YEAH.

AND THAT'S THE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S THE SAME BUSINESS. AS YOU MENTIONED, THEY'RE JUST REBRANDING AND. CORRECT. YEP. SO HOW MUCH IS THE INCREASE IN THE FOOTAGE FROM THE CURRENT SIGN THAT'S THERE TO THE NEW SIGN THAT'S GOING UP? OH, LET ME SEE HERE. I BELIEVE THE CURRENT SIGN IS AROUND THREE BY FIVE RIGHT NOW. THE TAEKWONDO SIGN. YEAH. YEAH. IT WASN'T THAT. AND THE NEW ONE. WE'RE WE ARE PURSUING IS 12 FOOT WIDE BY THREE FEET, THREE INCHES HIGH. IT'S A LITTLE BIGGER. THE ALL CRITTERS SIGN, THOUGH, IS LIKE 16FT LONG. THAT'S THE TENANT NEXT TO THEM.

SO YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN THE TAEKWONDO SIGN THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT STILL LESS THAN SOME OF THE OTHER TENANTS SIGNAGE. IN READING THE APPLICATION AND ALSO THE STAFF REPORT, I NOTICED THAT THE NEW SIGN WILL ACTUALLY BE ONLY THE SECOND LARGEST OR THE SECOND. IT'LL ACTUALLY BE THE SECOND SMALLEST SIGN. CORRECT. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF AN INCREASE. AND IF I CAN ASK IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, I'LL LET MR. HAHN ASK ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS HE HAS. NO, IT'S I KNOW THAT THAT ISSUE ISN'T BEFORE US NOW, BUT BACKING UP TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER ABOUT THE ALL CRITTERS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE TAKE THAT UP WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT WAS THAT EVER. DID YOU EVER PERMIT THAT? YEAH. WE. OH, OKAY.

IT JUST WASN'T OKAY. YEAH. WE DID GET A PERMIT FOR THAT ALL CRITTERS SIGN. I THINK IT WAS JUST. I THINK IT WASN'T REALIZED THAT THE BUILDING HAD TOO MUCH SIGNAGE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THE STAFF REPORT SAYS. YES. NEITHER OF THE OTHER SIGNS WERE REALIZED THAT THEY HELPED TO EXCEED THE TOTAL. THE TOTAL OF THE BUILDING. WHENEVER YOU TOOK IN THE DAVITA SIGN. AND IT IS DIFFERENT THOUGH, BECAUSE YOU SEE THE DAVITA HERE AND THEN THIS WHOLE OTHER SIDE YOU HAVE.

YEAH. CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. NO. GO AHEAD JOHN. OKAY. WELL I HAVE NO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ACTING SECRETARY. AND THAT IS DID LAURA SEND OUT LETTERS AND IF SO, DID SHE EVER GET ANY REPLIES OR TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS? THE APPLICATION SHOWS THAT THERE WERE FOUR ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS. YES. LETTERS WENT OUT AND THERE WAS ALSO AN ADVERTISEMENT DONE IN PUBLIC. I THINK, ON OUR WEBSITE AND THE POSTED IN THE PAPER. SO THERE, THERE, THERE, THERE WAS REALLY NO RESPONSE THEN? NONE. YEAH. WE DID NOT GET ANYTHING. OKAY.

OKAY. WELL, WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, I'LL ACCEPT THE MOTION OR I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MR. CHAIR NORMALLY DOES. I MOVE THAT WE GRANT A VARIANCE TO DENIED SIGN COMPANY FOR THE PROPERTY AT 4159. KELLNER DRIVE. DO I NEED TO PUT IN A LOT? PARCEL LOT NUMBER. I SHOULD PUT IT IN.

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OKAY. LET ME SEE. I HAVE TO GO BACK. WHICH IS PARCEL NUMBER 040. HYPHEN 006279 FOR THE FOLLOWING VARIANCE. THAT SECTION 1145 POINT 16. SUBPARAGRAPH THREE TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED FOR WALL SIGNATURE OR SIGNAGE OF 85 BY 146, FOR A TOTAL COMBINED WALL SIGNAGE FOR ALL TENANTS OF 185FT■!S. DO I HAVE A SECOND? IL SECOND. OH, I SHOULD ADD ONE THING TO THAT. THAT. YOU HAVE TO WAIT 21 DAYS BEFORE YOU CAN DO THIS. WELL, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, YEAH, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, YOU HAVE TO WAIT 21 DAYS. THAT'S REQUIRED BY A PROVISION THAT COUNCIL HAS ENACTED FOR OUR VARIANCES. THAT'S 21 DAYS UNTIL IT CAN BE INSTALLED, UNTIL YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO THE WORK. OKAY. GOTCHA. CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERRULE US. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY IF ANYONE WANTS TO APPEAL, IT CAN GO TO CITY COUNCIL. COUNCIL HAS 21 DAYS TO SIT ON IT. AND IF NOTHING HAPPENS, THEN THAT'S. THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. YEP. CAN YOU SECOND THAT? I SECOND. OKAY.

I'LL ASK THE ACTING SECRETARY TO CALL THE ROLL. MR. BRANDT? YES. MR. HORN. YES. OKAY. THE. THE MOTION IS GRANTED. SO YOU CAN DO THAT. BUT AGAIN, WAIT 21 DAYS BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY DO THE WORK.

WELL, IF YOU HAVE TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS OR ANYTHING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE ZONING DEPARTMENT, PLEASE DO THAT. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS? NOTHING AT THIS TIME. OKAY, THEN WE'LL STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.