[A. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]
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YES. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. IT'S 130. WELCOME TO PLANNING COMMISSION. I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, AND WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL. MR. ROACH. YES. HERE, MISS WEMLINGER HERE. CHAIR.
OYSTER. HERE. MR. FARNSWORTH HERE, MR. TITUS. YES, HERE. AND IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[ C. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES – April 8th, 2025]
PLANNING COMMISSION HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PRIOR MONTH'S MEETING MINUTES, AND THAT WAS FOR APRIL 8TH. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, PLEASE DO SO AT THIS TIME.OTHERWISE, WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MEETING MINUTES AS WRITTEN AND SUBMITTED. SECOND ROLL CALL, MISS WEMLINGER. YES, CHAIR.
OYSTER? YES, MR. FARNSWORTH? YES. MR. TITUS. YES. MR. ROACH? YES. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. IF YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKING VIEW WHEN WE CALL THE APPLICATION. IF YOU COULD JUST STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT WE'LL DO THAT ONCE WE ONCE WE CALL OUT THE APPLICATION. AND THEN IF YOU WILL WAIT THERE, WHAT WILL HAPPEN? THE PROTOCOL WILL BE AFTER YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. THE CITY WILL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND. KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT THE APPLICATION IS ALL ABOUT. AND THEN WE MIGHT ASK SOME QUESTIONS. YOU MIGHT WANT
[1. APPLICATION: Kidz Dig It LLC – Use Approval]
TO TELL US SOME MORE DETAILS. WE'LL GO THAT WAY. SO THE FIRST APPLICATION IS KIDS DIG IT LLC USE APPROVAL. SO THIS YES, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE MARK ANTHONY HORN I GO BY TONY. OKAY. 3454 GRANT AVENUE AND I'M SARAH KING I WILL BE THE I'M THE LANDLORD. SHE'S THE TENANT. OKAY. AND SARAH, WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? I LIVE AT 139 WALNUT CREEK DRIVE AND COMMERCIAL POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL. A USE APPROVAL TO ALLOW FOR THE OPERATION OF AN INDOOR KIDS PLAY FACILITY AT 3454 GRANT AVENUE. THE PROPOSED USE DOES NOT FALL WITHIN A STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION SIC CODE PERMITTED WITHIN ANY DISTRICT UNDER CHAPTER 1135 OF THE GROVE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING CODE, AND THEREFORE, PER SECTION 1130 509, THE USE MUST BE CONSIDERED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND A RECOMMENDATION MADE TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION IN ORDER FOR THE PROPOSED BUSINESS TO OPERATE AT THIS LOCATION. THE PROJECT NARRATIVE STATES THAT THE PROPOSED BUSINESS IS INDOOR CHILDREN'S PLAY FACILITY CENTERED AROUND LARGE, CLEAN, CLIMATE CONTROLLED SANDBOXES AND INTERACTIVE PLAY AREAS. THE FACILITY WILL CATER PRIMARILY TO CHILDREN AGES 1 TO 8 AND THEIR FAMILIES. IN ADDITION TO OPEN PLAY SESSIONS, THE FACILITY WILL HOST STRUCTURED EVENTS SUCH AS SENSORY FRIENDLY PLAY SESSIONS, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, AND PARENT CHILD WORKSHOPS. PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE BUSINESS ARE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, FROM 9 A.M. TO 8:00 PM. STAFF BELIEVE THE PROPOSED USE WILL BE IN CHARACTER WITH THE AREA GIVEN ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE LIBRARY, WHICH OFFERS MANY FAMILY ORIENTED PROGRAMS, AND THAT THE USE SHOULD CAUSE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREA DUE TO THE FACILITY OPERATING INDOORS AND THE AVAILABILITY OF PUBLIC PARKING IN THE AREA. THEREFORE, AFTER VIEWING CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMEND PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE USE APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT EITHER OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK SO. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. JUST A COMMENT. I THINK IT SOUNDS REALLY COOL AND WELCOME. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DEFINITE NEED FOR IT. AND SO THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE TO DO IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF RISKY AND SCARY. YEAH. EXACTLY. SO I THINK IT'S GREAT OKAY.THANK YOU. WE THINK IT WILL BE A GOOD FIT. YEAH. ANYONE ELSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM PLANNING
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COMMISSION? IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE.WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION CHAIR. I MAKE THE MOTION WE RECOMMEND TO OUR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF APPLICATION ONE. KIDS DIG IT, LLC. USE APPROVAL I SECOND. ROLL CALL CHAIR OYSTER. YES, MR. FARNSWORTH? YES. MR. TITUS. YES, MR. ROACH? YES, MISS WEMLINGER. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND ITEM
[2. APPLICATION: Broadway Live – Certificate of Appropriateness]
NUMBER TWO, AND THIS IS OUR FINAL ITEM OF THE DAY, BROADWAY LIVE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. TIM KORSAKOVSKY, 159 EAST LIVINGSTON AVENUE, COLUMBUS, OHIO 43215. AXIOM VENTURES DEVELOPER. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES WITHIN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AREA, AS REQUIRED BY CHAPTER 1130 805 OF CODE. A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR BROADWAY WAS APPROVED FOR THE SITE IN JANUARY OF 2025, AND THE MATERIALS STATE THE INTENT BEHIND THE DEMOLITION IS TO REMOVE THE DETERIORATING STRUCTURES AND ASPHALT PARKING LOTS IN PREPARATION FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. A TOTAL OF NINE STRUCTURES ARE PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED. THE 2008 TOWN CENTER PLAN INCLUDED A NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES EVALUATION TO IDENTIFY ANY STRUCTURES WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER AREA THAT HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO LOCAL HISTORY AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE STRUCTURES PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED. UNDER THIS APPLICATION, ONLY THE STRUCTURE AT 3306 COLUMBUS STREET WAS IDENTIFIED AS HAVING SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURE, AND AS SUCH, FUTURE DISCUSSION WILL BE NEEDED TO DETERMINE IF THE STRUCTURE SHOULD BE SAVED. MATERIALS STATE THAT DEMOLITION WILL TAKE PLACE IN TWO PHASES, WITH PHASE ONE WILL INCLUDE ALL STRUCTURES AND ASSOCIATED PAVEMENT, EXCEPT FOR 3952 BROADWAY, AND THE SECOND PHASE WILL INCLUDE 3952 BROADWAY. WHILE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION IS NEEDED REGARDING THE STRUCTURE AT 3306 COLUMBUS STREET, STAFF BELIEVES THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION IS APPROPRIATE, NOTING THAT IT WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF THE TOWN CENTER AREA AND THEREFORE, AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, WITH THE STIPULATION NOTED. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR AND OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? I PREFER TO ANSWER AND COMMENT BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. VERY GOOD QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE AS FAR AS THE DEMOLITION? THAT'S SOMEWHAT PERTINENT. WE'RE HOPING TO DO THAT THIS SUMMER. SO WE BEGAN THE ABATEMENT PROCESS TO DO SO ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND STARTED ABATEMENT THIS WEEK, ACTUALLY, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THEM DOWN. AND THEN OUR GOAL IS SOMETIME IN JULY OR AUGUST TO HAVE OUR DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS OUT THERE. JUST THAT WAY. WE GET THE GRASS DOWN, EVERYTHING'S DONE AND WRAPPED UP. IT'S KIND OF WHERE 3306 COLUMBUS STREET, WE WOULD WE'RE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, HAVING FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, BUT TIMING IS OF THE ESSENCE. SO I GUESS WE WOULD CONSIDER HAVING THE CITY CONCLUDE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION THEY MAKE WITH THAT BUILDING PRIOR TO AUGUST WOULD BE OUR OUR STANCE, I GUESS. OKAY. AND THEN WITH 3952, WHEN WOULD BE THE DEMOLITION OF THAT PHASE TWO? YES. I WANTED TO GET OR WE WANTED TO GET THE APPROVAL FOR ALL OF IT BECAUSE WE STILL MAY TAKE IT OUT. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE FELT THE SUMMER IS A GREAT MONTH FOR THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE IN THAT CORNER, AND THERE WAS NO NEED TO REALLY DISRUPT IT. AND FURTHER, WE'RE EVALUATING INTERNALLY WHETHER WE CAN LIKE KEEP THE BUILDING AND ADD ON TO IT AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. SO NO NEED TO TAKE IT DOWN YET, I GUESS WAS OUR FEELING AND AS OF I THINK LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO, EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR THOSE TENANTS HAS BEEN GIVEN NOTICE TO VACATE. SO THERE ARE THESE BUILDINGS WILL BE VACANT BY PROBABLY THE END OF THE MONTH. OKAY. SO THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE STRUCTURAL CONDITION OF 3306, IN MY OPINION, AS AN ARCHITECT OR AS THE OWNER ARCHITECT? OKAY, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED. I THINK THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE IS PRETTY, PRETTY STURDY BECAUSE IT'S OLD WOOD, RIGHT? IT DID FLOOD RECENTLY. IT FLOODED BETWEEN DECEMBER 23RD AND I THINK LIKE FEBRUARY OR MARCH. AND WE HAD $11,500 WATER BILL FOR THAT, WHICH CAUSED SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE.AND THAT INCLUDED PLUMBING UPSTAIRS THAT, YOU KNOW, DAMAGED ALL THE PLASTER. AND IT'S
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BASICALLY NOT IN GREAT CONDITION INSIDE. AND WE HAVE MOLD AND ETC. SO A COMBINATION OF, YEAH, THERE ARE COMPONENTS THAT ARE STRUCTURAL THAT CAN BE SAVED. A LOT OF THE FINISHES AND OTHER THINGS ARE PRETTY MUCH WORTHLESS. SO I FIGURED THANK YOU. YEAH. JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT TOO. HAS ANYBODY APPROACHED SAINT JOHN'S AT ALL AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WOULD WANT TO DO WITH THE BUILDING? I MEAN, THEY HAVE LOTS OF PROPERTY WHERE THE CURRENT CHURCH IS. I MEAN, COULD THEY MOVE THAT? IS, IS IT RELATED TO SAINT JOHN'S? YES. OKAY. SO MY UNDERSTANDING. YEAH, IT'S THE ORIGINAL SAINT JOHN'S, YOU KNOW, CHURCH. OKAY. SO NO, WE HAVE NOT APPROACHED THEM IN ANY CAPACITY. WE DID NOT VIEW IT AS A CHURCH. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S A CHURCH. I'VE SEEN SOME PICTURES. I HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING THE STUFF, THE COMPONENTS OF THE CHURCH FROM THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE WITHIN IT, INCLUDING THE CHAPEL. BUT I'M WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THAT THOSE CAN BE FOUND OR RECONSTRUCTED SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO NO. AND IF THEY WERE INTERESTED, I'M SURE THERE COULD BE A PARTNERSHIP. YEAH, I'M JUST SURPRISED. I MEAN, I, I WAS A MEMBER OF SAINT JOHN'S FOR MY ALMOST MY ENTIRE LIFE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THERE AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CHURCH SITE. YEAH. IT'S BEEN A RESIDENT SINCE, LIKE, 1920 SOMETHING SO HARD FOR ME TO KNOW IT WAS A CHURCH, EXCEPT FOR OTHER PEOPLE PASSING THAT INFORMATION ON. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, CONTACT THEM AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. I THINK WE'RE OPEN TO ANY CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD RELATED TO THAT PROPERTY. OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE NOT FINDING VALUE IN IT. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION UNDER THAT CONTEXT, IF IT'S WORTH SAVING AND MOVING ELSEWHERE, WE'RE OPEN TO IT. WE HAVE A TIMELINE, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED A STRONG PARTNERSHIP IF OUR DEVELOPMENT OR WHEN OUR DEVELOPMENT MOVES FORWARD WITH SAINT JOHN'S FOR MAYBE STAFF PARKING AND OTHER BENEFICIARY THINGS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH THEM SOONER THAN LATER. OKAY. MAKE SENSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU. PLEASE, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. AND WHEN YOU SPEAK, JUST SPEAK TO PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M LINDA LEWIS. I LIVE AT THREE, TWO, FOUR, SEVEN LOTS DRIVE, GROW CITY AND WE CAME TO THE PLANNING MEETING A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS DISCUSSED TO BE DEMOLISHED, ESPECIALLY THE OLD LUTHERAN CHURCH. AND STEVE JACKSON WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TODAY. AND HE WANTED ME TO COME AND SAY THAT QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO, IKE AND A MEMBER OF THE WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND SOMEONE ELSE, JOHN HINES, WHO BELONGS, THEY WENT UP IN THE CHURCH, THEY WENT UP IN THE OLD CHURCH AND THEY SAW PAINTINGS ON THE TIMBERS UP IN THE EAVES AND UNDER THE ROOF. AND SO OUR CONCERN IS THAT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING OF VALUE THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO A REPLICA OF THE OR A CHURCH OR SAVE FOR THE CHURCH, BUT IT COULD BE SAVED FOR HISTORICAL VALUE OF THOSE TIMBERS, BECAUSE A LOT OF LUTHERAN CHURCHES IN THAT ERA WOULD PAINT AND DO PAINTINGS AND CHRISTIAN SYMBOLS ON THEIR INSIDE WALLS. WHEN WE CAME THE LAST TIME, IT WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL WITH THE CITY, THAT THE DEVELOPERS WOULD SAVE THE LUTHERAN CHURCH. WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE IT, DID NOT PLAN ON, DID NOT THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE TO MOVE IT, BUT TO SAVE SOME OF THE OLD LOGS FROM IT, MAYBE USE IT IN A RECONSTRUCTION DOWN AT THE VILLAGE. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT STANDS IN YOUR PROCESS, WHETHER THAT WENT BY THE WAYSIDE, THAT DEAL WITH THE DEVELOPERS THAT WE UNDERSTOOD WAS THERE A FEW YEARS AGO, ON APRIL 17TH, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE DEVELOPERS, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD INCURRED THE WINTER DAMAGE AND THE STRUCTURE COULD NO LONGER BE SALVAGEABLE AND IT WOULD BE DEMOLISHED. SO MY QUESTION TODAY IS WHAT HAPPENED TO SAVING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE STILL IN THE ATTIC OF THE BUILDING THAT ARE OF VALUE TO US, BUT MAYBE NOBODY ELSE? AND I DON'T THINK THE FLOODWATERS REACHED THAT HIGH. SO I DON'T KNOW THE CONDITION OF THAT. I LIVE IN THE AREA, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT FLOOD THERE WAS IN THAT AREA. BUT ANYWAY. SO. WE DID WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO GET BACK TO THAT DEVELOPERS FOR THE FOR 17 LETTER. WE'VE BEEN OUT OF TOWN AND SO WE HEARD[00:15:01]
ABOUT THIS MEETING TODAY, AND WE WANTED TO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT WE WOULD LIKE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT, THAT SALVAGEABLE TO BE SAVED IN THIS BUILDING AND NOT JUST TORN DOWN, BUT ACCORDING TO THAT LETTER, IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS NOTHING DEEMED VALUABLE AT ALL. AND IT WAS GOING TO BE LEVELED. SO AND I APPRECIATE, MICHAEL, YOUR IDEA OF SAINT JOHN'S. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WEREN'T INCLUDED ANYWHERE IN THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THEY WERE AT ONE TIME AT LEAST INTERESTED IN SAVING PART OF THAT BUILDING AND MOVING IT DOWN TO CENTURY VILLAGE, IF POSSIBLE, IF POSSIBLE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO, YES. MR. KOSKI, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT? DO YOU THINK THERE'S A WAY TO KIND OF WORK TOGETHER AND MAYBE. YEAH, I THINK THERE'S SOME BACKGROUND THAT MAYBE I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE KNOWN. WE DID ALERT THE CITY OF OUR INTENT, AND OBVIOUSLY WE APPLIED AND WORKED THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND WE'RE STANDING BEFORE YOU WITH SOME SORT OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL RECOMMENDATION. AND IN THE IN THE INTERIM TIME WE HAVE WALKED THAT PROPERTY WITH SOME CITY OFFICIALS AND THEIR CONSULTANTS TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT IS SALVAGEABLE. I'M NOT AWARE OF A REPORT STATING SUCH. I'M IT COULD BE FORTHCOMING. SO LIKE OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION. WE'RE NOT LIKE I SAID, I THINK OUR BIGGEST THING IS WE'RE WE'LL AGREE TO THE CONDITION AS LONG AS THERE'S SOME TIMELINE SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST HELD OUT IN LIMBO FOREVER, SO THAT WE CAN ALSO MANAGE OUR SCOPES OF DEMOLITION, BECAUSE WHETHER THEY'RE TAKING IT DOWN OR TAKING IT DOWN IN PARTS AFFECTS OUR SIDE. SO YEAH, IN THAT I AGREE. AND THEN UP IN THE ATTIC WE DID HAVE WATER DAMAGE BECAUSE THERE WAS PLUMBING AND THERE'S A RESTROOM ON THAT SECOND LEVEL. AND SO WATER DID AFFECT SOME THINGS BUT NOT EVERYTHING. AND AT SOME POINT THERE WAS DIFFERENT LEVELS BUILT IN BETWEEN THERE. SO IT'S, IT'S A HODGEPODGE UP THERE TO SAY THE LEAST. BUT IF YOU WANT TO DIG THROUGH AND LOOK AT OLD TIMBERS, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE SOMEONE RUN THROUGH IT. AND I CONTINUE TO OPEN THE DOORS TO THAT BUILDING AS LONG AS IT'S HERE. AS THE APPLICANT DID. STATE CITY OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN OUT TO THE STRUCTURE, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH AN ARCHITECT CURRENTLY IN EVALUATING THE STRUCTURE, WHICH IS WHY THE STIPULATION IS WORDED THE WAY IT IS. WE DO INTEND TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSIONS, BUT WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED THE FINDINGS OF THAT REPORT AS OF YET. BUT WE WILL WE WILL CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ALSO RESPECTING THE APPLICANT AND THEIR TIMELINE, MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THE ANSWER RIGHT. BUT I DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THAT TIMELINE IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY KEEP YOU UPDATED. VERY GOOD. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? IF SO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. MY NAME IS CAROL HALL. I LIVE AT 3315 COLUMBUS STREET, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE OLD SAINT JOHN'S LUTHERAN CHURCH. MY QUESTION IS YESTERDAY AND TODAY. THERE'S SOMEBODY OVER THERE TODAY TAKING OUT WINDOWS, DOORS AND THINGS ARE BEING BOARDED UP. AND I'M JUST A NEIGHBOR. WHAT'S GOING ON? THAT'S ALL. SURE. SO I'LL ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. BUT AS I MENTIONED AT THE TOP, WE DID THE ASBESTOS ASSESSMENT THAT'S REQUIRED, WHETHER THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE MOVED OR DEMOLISHED. WE DISCOVERED ASBESTOS IN THE WINDOW GLAZING, WHICH REQUIRES ABATEMENT. SO WE AUTHORIZED THE ABATEMENT, WHICH WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAPPEN EITHER WAY. AND RIGHT NOW OUR SOLUTION IS TO BOARD THE WINDOWS UP FOR SECURITY UNTIL A SOLUTION CAN BE MADE, WHETHER IT IS COMING DOWN OR PARTS OF IT ARE GOING TO BE SAVED. BUT THOSE ORIGINAL WINDOWS WITH ASBESTOS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REMOVED EITHER WAY. SO THEY'RE COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE WITH THE STIPULATION IN HERE. ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE BROADWAY LIVE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. SECOND. ROLL CALL. MR. FARNSWORTH. YES, MR. TITUS? YES, MR. ROACH? YES, MISS. WEMLINGER. YES, CHAIR. OYSTER. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WITH THAT BEING THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, I WILL ASK, IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. THE MEETING IS