Jun 16, 2025 City Council

[Council Review of Charter]

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I GUESS I SHOULD TURN MY MICROPHONE, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, AND IF WE CAN HAVE MISS KELLY CALL THE ROLL. MISS BURROWS HERE, ANDERSON. HERE, WILSON. HOUK HERE. HOLT. BARRY HERE. DUE HERE. RIGHT. AND, LIKE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE MR. WILSON, MR. HOLT AND MAYOR STAGE SECOND. BURROWS. YES, ANDERSON. YES. YES, BARRY. YES, YES. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME, EVERYONE. AND YOU, YOU PROBABLY ARE UP TO THE MINUTE ON WHY WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING. AS YOU'RE YOU'VE MADE SOME SPECIAL TIME TO BE HERE WITH US, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN A COMPLETE READ THROUGH OF THE CHARTER TO TALK ABOUT ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS AND REALLY ANY ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED, REALLY, JUST TO, TO KIND OF GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE A GOOD DRAFT THAT COULD BE AT THE ROOT OF A PIECE OF LEGISLATION IN THE FUTURE. SO I WHEN I WAS WORKING ON RESOLUTION CR 2125, WHICH WE PASSED AT OUR LAST SESSION, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH OLD MINUTES AND SAW THAT MR. BARRY HAD SAID LIKE THREE MEETINGS AGO, WE NEED TO START GOING THROUGH THE CHARTER FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END. SO HERE WE ARE. WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LATE, BUT WE'RE GETTING GETTING THE BALL ROLLING. SO MISS KELLY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO PUT TOGETHER A TRIPLE SPACED VERSION OF THE CHARTER FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO MAKE NOTES AS WE MOVE THROUGH FROM BEGINNING TO END. I ALSO, I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL CAPABLE OF GETTING OUT THERE AND DOING SOME RESEARCH, BUT I WAS CONTEMPLATING OVER THE WEEKEND THIS KIND OF THE WORLD OF WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON A READ THROUGH OF OUR CHARTER, WE WANT TO MAKE REFERENCE TO SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES. THE MOST APPLICABLE, OBVIOUSLY, I FEEL, IS COMMUNITIES IN OUR REGION, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITIES ANYWHERE IN THE STATE OF OHIO OR IN OUR NATION. AND I WOULD SAY THAT A VERY WISE PERSON SUGGESTED THE LANGUAGE TO ME WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS OF IT'S NOT ABOUT IMITATION, IT'S ABOUT INSPIRATION. SO TAKING A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE OTHER CHARTERS TO GET INSPIRATION FOR WHERE WE WANT TO GO, I ALWAYS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN THE CONVERSATION ON EVERY TOPIC OF WE CAN SEE THINGS THAT WE LIKE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, BUT WHEN WE'RE HAVING LOCAL DISCUSSIONS, WE WANT TO KNOW THAT WE'RE COMING UP WITH A GROVE CITY SOLUTION. AND I THINK THAT THAT THAT WILL BE AT THE HEART OF THIS CHARTER DISCUSSION AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BUT I WANTED TO PASS OUT.

EVERYONE UP HERE AND THIS IS STRICTLY RIGHT FROM THEIR DOCUMENT ONLINE, TWO EXAMPLES JUST TO HAVE WITH YOU WHEN YOU'RE AT HOME, KIND OF PREPARING FOR THE MEETINGS, ONE OF THEM BEING THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF WESTERVILLE AND WESTERVILLE ADOPTED THE COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN THE YEAR 1916. AND THEN AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, I HAVE THE CHARTER FOR THE CITY OF HILLIARD. AND BY CONTRAST, THEY HAD THEIR CHARTER AMENDMENT IN 2018 AND COUNCIL MANAGER BEGAN IN 2020. SO I'LL, I'LL SEND THESE YOUR WAY. AND AGAIN THESE ARE JUST STRICTLY SAVING YOU FROM HAVING TO GET ON THE INTERNET FOR TO JUST HAVE TWO EXAMPLES AT YOUR FINGERTIPS. MADAM CHAIR, YOU ALSO HAVE CITY OF DUBLIN IN YOUR PACKET PACKET.

THANK YOU. WERE ALL OVER IT. YOU'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. SO CITY OF DUBLIN. SO WE HAVE THREE NOW AT OUR FINGERTIPS. SO I KIND OF WANT US TO AGREE ON PROCESS. AND WHAT I'M THINKING IS THAT WE LITERALLY ARE GOING TO READ THROUGH FROM BEGINNING TO END. AND, AND YOU KNOW, MISS KELLY MENTIONED THAT MR. HOLT WAS NOT GOING TO BE WITH US THIS EVENING. DID WE WANT TO WAIT? AND BECAUSE THIS IS QUITE A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF WORK, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO COMMIT ONLY 60 MINUTES AT A TIME, I FIGURE WE CAN ALWAYS START OUR SESSION WITH, IS THERE ANYTHING WE'D LIKE TO REVISIT? AND THAT WAY, IF THERE'S ANY EVENING AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT SOMEONE IS NOT AVAILABLE, WE'LL START OFF BY ADDRESSING OLD QUESTIONS. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE'D STILL LIKE TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. SO IF THAT IS AGREEABLE TO EVERYONE, I'M GOING

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THE BINDING IS EATING SOME OF THE WORDS. SO I AM SPEAK CORRECTLY. ALRIGHT. SO CHAPTER OF THE CITY OF GROVE CITY, OHIO. ARTICLE ONE INCORPORATION CORPORATION FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND POWERS. SECTION 1.01 INCORPORATION. THE INHABITANTS OF THE VILLAGE OF GROVE CITY, FRANKLIN COUNTY, OHIO, WITHIN ITS CORPORATE LIMITS AS NOW ESTABLISHED OR AS HEREAFTER ESTABLISHED IN THE MANNER PROVIDED BY LAW, SHALL CONTINUE TO BE A BODY, POLITICAL AND CORPORATE, BY THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GROVE CITY, AND AS SUCH SHALL HAVE PERPETUAL SUCCESSION.

THIS MUNICIPALITY CORPORATION SHALL HERE WITHIN, HERE IN WHAT AFTER BE REFERRED TO AS THE CITY. DO WE WANT TO START WITH AFTER EVERY SECTION, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, AND I TRUST THAT THERE ARE NONE THERE. OKAY. AND JUST AND I SHOULD ALSO WELCOME MR. SCHEMPP THIS EVENING, WHO WILL KEEP US ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW. BUT THIS THIS SOUNDS SELF-EXPLANATORY.

ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY SEES, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ASK TAMMY, DO WE NEED? IT'S. WELL, IT'S ON THE COVER. THE DATE OF LIKE, THE INHABITANTS OF THE VILLAGE OF GROVE CITY, WHATEVER DATE THAT WAS, I JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE KIND OF NEAT FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES. DO YOU KNOW WHAT DATE THAT IS? IT SAYS IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED BY THE VOTERS ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 1958.

1958. WOULD THE INHABITANTS OF THE VILLAGE. SO 1958 WOULD BE IT? NO, NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

AND NO, I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I JUST THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE HISTORICAL STUFF IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WHEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT DATE YOU WOULD WANT TO PUT IN THERE. THAT'S THE THING. THAT'S WHY IT WAS LEFT ALONE.

BECAUSE WHAT DOES, YOU KNOW, 1852 SIGNIFY VERSUS WERE WE A VILLAGE IN 1850 OR ARE WE A VILLAGE THEN. YES. ESTABLISHED THEN. OKAY. SO I GUESS THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION ON THAT.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE NICE TO HAVE A HISTORICAL DOCUMENT. THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORICAL DATES WITHIN THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S WHY YOUR CHARTER IS. PRETTY OPEN, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO REFER TO YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT A DATE. BUT NOTED. ALL RIGHT. AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT DATE. SECTION 102 BOUNDARIES. THE CITY SHALL HAVE FULL POWER AND AUTHORITY TO CHANGE ITS BOUNDARIES, AND TO ANNEX OTHER TERRITORY CONTIGUOUS TO IT IN THE MANNER SET FORTH IN THE GENERAL LAWS OF OHIO. I CAN'T REALLY ARGUE WITH THAT. OKAY. SECTION 103 IS POWERS THE CITY SHALL HAVE AND EXERCISE ALL THE POWERS, GENERAL OR SPECIAL, GOVERNMENTAL OR PROPRIETARY, THAT MAY NOW OR HEREAFTER LAWFULLY BE POSSESSED OR EXERCISED BY MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF OHIO. THE MENTION OF OR REFERENCE TO SPECIFIC POWERS IN THIS CHARTER SHALL NOT. I'M GOING OFF THE SCREEN BACK TO HERE. BE CONSTRUED TO BE EXCLUSIVE IN BEING THE INTENT THAT THE CITY SHALL HAVE, AND MAY EXERCISE ALL POWERS WHICH IT WOULD BE COMPETENT FOR THE FOR THIS CHARTER SPECIFICALLY TO ENUMERATE. ROLLS RIGHT OFF THE TONGUE, DOESN'T IT? YES. NO, I THINK ANY CHANGES ON THAT SECTION. OKAY. SECTION 104 MANNER OF EXERCISE OF POWERS. ALL POWERS OF THE CITY SHALL BE

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THAT WOULD BE. WE START THAT ONE, RIGHT. OKAY. I CAN START READING FOR SECTION TWO.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. SECOND, I'M JUST PEELING THEM OFF. I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL OF IT. IT'S A LONG ONE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ARTICLE TWO THE COUNCIL. SO SECTION 2.01 NUMBER SELECTION AND TERM. THE COUNCIL SHALL CONSIST OF SEVEN MEMBERS. EACH WARD SHALL ELECT ONE RESIDENT MEMBER FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM. TWO MEMBERS SHALL BE ELECTED AT LARGE FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM, WITH ONE SEAT BEING ELECTED IN THE ELECTION OF THE MAYOR. THIS WAS AMENDED IN 17. YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. I JUST SAID THIS WAS AMENDED IN 17. I JUST FINISHED READING WHAT WAS SO WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE. OPPOSITE ELECTION OF THE MAYOR IF WE DECIDED TO CHANGE THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT. IF THERE WAS A CHANGE, WE SHOULD START THAT. SO WE PUT A STAR THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SECTION 2.02 QUALIFICATIONS. ANY QUALIFIED ELECTOR WHO HAS BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OR OF TERRITORY ANNEXED THERETO FOR A PERIOD OF AT LEAST ONE YEAR PRIOR TO THE FILING OF HIS PETITION FOR ELECTION TO THE OFFICE OF COUNCILMAN, WHO IS NOT THE OCCUPANT OF AN INCOMPATIBLE OFFICE, SHALL BE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF COUNCIL. A COUNCILMAN WHO CEASES TO BE A QUALIFIED RESIDENT ELECTOR, OR WHO ACCEPTS AND ENTERS UPON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE DUTIES OF AN INCOMPATIBLE OFFICE, SHALL AUTOMATICALLY VACATE HIS OFFICE ON THE COUNCIL. A COUNCIL MEMBER ELECTED BY A WARD WHO CEASES TO RESIDE IN THAT WARD, SHALL BE DEEMED TO VACATE THEIR OFFICE ON THE COUNCIL UNLESS REDISTRICTING OF THE WARDS CAUSES THE CHANGE.

SO. AND HERE WE HAVE SOME WORDS. WRITE HIS COUNCILMAN THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH, I AGREE THAT SHOULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER. YOU'RE RIGHT. EITHER ANOTHER PERSON OR CHARTER SAYS COUNCIL SHALL BE REFERRED TO AS MEMBER. SO THAT. WHAT DOES IT SAY THAT KEEP READING. OKAY. IT'S IN HERE. DO WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES SPECIFICALLY TO THESE STATEMENTS HERE? YES, I THINK THAT'S THE WORD. HIS HAS TO BE CHANGED. YEAH. HIS. SO IN THE FIRST SENTENCE FILING OF HIS PETITION FOR THE ELECTION OF OFFICE OF COUNCILMAN, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER. RIGHT. TAMMY. YES, SIR. SHOULD IT BE COUNCIL MEMBER, SIR? I BELIEVE THERE WAS ANOTHER REFERENCE TO HIS VACATE HIS OFFICE. YEAH. NOW, THE WORD. THE WORD INCOMPATIBLE OFFICE. TAMMY, IS THAT LIST ARE THOSE LISTED IN THE CODE? IN THE REVISED CODE OR WERE THOSE LISTED WHAT WHAT'S INCOMPATIBLE? YEAH. WHAT OHIO ATTORNEY GENERAL DECIDES THAT. AND THERE'S A BOOKLET. OH, OKAY. DID NOT KNOW THAT. IT'S IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND IT'S ONLINE. THE MORE UPDATED VERSION IS ONLINE. ONE GRAM GRAMMATICAL THING. SO THE LAST SENTENCE SHALL BE DEEMED TO VACATE THEIR OFFICE ON THE COUNCIL, SHOULD THAT BE OF THE COUNCIL. NO, YOU'RE ON COUNCIL. BE THERE. YEAH. IT'S ON, IT'S ON OKAY.

YEAH. OKAY. BUT IT'S A LITTLE FUNKY BUT YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ANYTHING ELSE. YEAH. SO I'M JUST GO BACK YOU KNOW FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE READING THIS AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT INCOMPATIBLE OFFICES SHOULD, WE HAVE AN ASTERISK AT THE BOTTOM THAT SAYS, I DON'T KNOW. NO. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT CHANGES. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE LIST OF INCOMPATIBLE OFFICES CAN BE

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MR. SIEGRIST, ONE YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. BUT I MEAN, I KEEP GOING BACK TO LIKE, WHAT IF YOU'RE PUT LIKE THE GOVERNOR APPOINTS YOU TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE LIQUOR COMMISSION, IS THAT INCOMPATIBLE? BECAUSE WE VOTE ON LIQUOR? IT COULD BE. YES. AND WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL LISTING AND. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO JUST POINT OUT THAT THE INCOMPATIBLE THING IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS PROJECT, RIGHT BEFORE WE BEFORE WE GET TOO MUCH, BEFORE WE GET TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS. SO AN INTERESTINGLY, OUR CHARTER FOR THE ELECTRONIC VERSION SAYS COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE. YEAH IN THE MIDDLE SO BUT THE OUR BOUND VERSION SAYS A COUNCILMAN. ALL RIGHT WE'RE GETTING THERE. EVENTUALLY WE'LL CATCH THEM ALL OKAY? OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE I AM READING DIRECTLY FROM. YES. YEAH. YES. AND BUT BUT THEY'RE SO IN THIS SECTION. THERE, THERE IS ONE, MAYBE TWO REFERENCES TO COUNCILMAN THAT SHOULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER AND TWO USES OF HIS. YES. CORRECT. YES. OKAY. SECTION 2.03 VACANCIES. VACANCIES IN THE OFFICE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL BE FILLED BY THE SELECTION OF A PERSON QUALIFIED AS PROVIDED IN SECTION 2.02 OF THIS CHARTER BY THE REMAINING MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE DATE OF VACANCY. IF THEY DO NOT DO SO, THE VACANCY VACANCY SHALL BE FILLED BY MAYORAL APPOINTMENT.

IF THE VACANCY OCCURS IN THE REPRESENTATION OF A WARD, THE VACANCY SHALL BE FILLED BY THE SELECTION OF A RESIDENT OF THE SAME WARD, THE COUNCIL MEMBER SO SELECTED TO FILL A VACANCY SHALL SERVE UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR MUNICIPAL ELECTION, OCCURRING NOT LESS THAN 90 DAYS AFTER HIS SELECTION. WHEN A SUCCESSOR SHALL BE CHOSEN BY THE VOTERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE UNEXPIRED TERM, IF ANY. IF NOT FOR A FULL TERM, WHO DEFINITELY A REFERENCE TO MAYORAL APPOINTMENT. THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENT. WITHIN 90 DAYS AFTER HIS SELECTION. YEAH, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THANK YOU. IT DID SAY COUNCIL MEMBER. AFTER HIS ELECTION. THAT'S IT NEEDS CLEANED UP. YES. SO TAMMY IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THIS IS LIKE 12 YEARS AGO. WELL ACTUALLY IT WAS WHEN I FIRST CAME ON COUNCIL. SO IF A PERSON IF A PERSON MOVES, A WARD PERSON MOVES, DO THEY FINISH OUT THEIR TERM IN THAT WARD? NOT ANYMORE. IN 2017, THAT YOU FORWARDED THAT QUESTION TO THE VOTERS AND THEY AGREED WITH THE CHANGE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN SECTION 2.02, QUALIFICATIONS TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, COUNCIL MEMBER ELECTED BY WARD, WHO CEASES TO RESIDE IN THAT WARD, SHALL BE DEEMED TO VACATE THEIR OFFICE ON COUNCIL UNLESS REDISTRICTING OF THE WARDS CAUSES THE CHANGE. SO IF YOU MOVE, YOU VACATE AS SOON AS YOU MOVE. IF YOU'RE MOVING OUT OF YOUR WARD. OKAY, AND AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY AS WELL, THAT ON AN APPOINTMENT IF, SAY, THERE WAS THREE YEARS LEFT ON A TERM, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FILL THREE THE THREE YEARS THEY

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CORRECT. OKAY. ARE WE GOOD TO MOVE ON? SECTION 2.04 SALARY. COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL RECEIVE AN ANNUAL SALARY. THE COUNCIL MAY, BY ORDINANCE, PROVIDE A DIFFERENT RATE OF SALARY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. HOWEVER, NO INCREASE IN SALARY MAY BE PAID TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBER DURING THE TERM WHICH HE IS SERVING AT THE TIME THE INCREASE IS VOTED, AND NO ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR A SALARY INCREASE MAY BE DECLARED AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. SUCH AN ORDINANCE SHALL BE PASSED AND PUBLISHED AT LEAST 60 DAYS PRIOR TO A CITY ELECTION, IN ORDER TO BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE FOLLOWING TERM. THAT'S ALL. ONE GENDER REFERENCE. YEAH. WHEN HE. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? SECTION 2.05 BEGINNING OF TERM MEETING OFFICERS. ALL ELECTED CITY OFFICIALS SHALL TAKE OFFICE ON THE SECOND DAY OF JANUARY FOLLOWING REGULAR MUNICIPAL ELECTION. NEWLY ELECTED MEMBERS SHALL TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE, AND THE COUNCIL SHALL ELECT FROM ITS OWN NUMBER A PRESENT FROM ITS OWN NUMBER, A PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL TO PRESIDE OVER ITS SESSIONS AND TO SERVE AS MAYOR IN THE EVENT OF THE LATTER'S DEATH OR DISABILITY. THE COUNCIL SHALL ALSO ELECT AT ITS ORGANIZATION, MEETING A CLERK WHO SHALL PERFORM DUTIES, AS THE COUNCIL MAY PRESCRIBE, AND SHALL RECEIVE SUCH COMPENSATION FOR HIS SERVICES, AS MAY BE PROVIDED BY THE ORDINANCE. THE CLERK SHALL NOT BE A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL. THEREAFTER, MEETINGS SHALL BE HELD REGULARLY AT A TIME PRESCRIBED BY THE COUNCIL RULES, BUT NOT LESS FREQUENTLY THAN ONCE EACH MONTH. ALL MEETINGS OF THE COUNCIL SHALL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, EXCEPT FOR THOSE EXEMPTIONS SET FORTH IN THE OHIO REVISED CODE AND APPROVED BY TWO THIRDS VOTE OF ALL THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, I GUESS, WHAT DEEMED THE DECISION OR THE BACKGROUND CONTEXT OF THE SECOND DAY OF JANUARY VERSUS THE FIRST DAY OF JANUARY? AND WHAT IF IT FALLS ON A WEEKEND? YEAH, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. I ONLY SPECULATION IS JANUARY 1ST IS ALWAYS A HOLIDAY AND NOBODY'S HERE. THE SECOND COULD ALSO BE A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY. RIGHT. SO HOW DOES THAT. BUT IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL HOLIDAY ARE THEY? OKAY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE OATH ON THAT DAY. YEAH. YOU JUST YOU AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THE OFFICE, THEN YOU TAKE THE OATH AT THE NEXT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK. SO IF YOU AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THE OFFICE, I KNOW THE OTHER ONES WOULDN'T VACATE UNTIL THE FIRST, BUT I JUST POSING THIS AS, AS WE REVIEW THIS SECOND DAY OF JANUARY, THAT'S. YEAH. AS IT SAYS, THEY TAKE THE OFFICE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE FUTURE TO ASSUME THE OFFICE ON THE FIRST BEING ABLE TO TAKE THE OATH, TAKE THE OFFICE, BUT NOT THE OATH. SO THEY ASSUME THEY ASSUME YOUR OFFICE ON THE SECOND DAY. THAT'S RIGHT. JANUARY. YEP.

RIGHT. I'M QUESTIONING YOU. DON'T VACATE THE OFFICE. YOU DON'T VACATE YOUR CURRENT OFFICE UNTIL JANUARY 1ST, RIGHT? NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M QUESTIONING THAT. WELL, LET ME LET ME THROW THIS OUT, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I WORKED IN THE SENATE ALL THOSE YEARS THAT MOST OF THE MOST OF THE SENATORS WOULD TAKE THEIR OATH OF OFFICE PRIOR TO THEM ACTUALLY STARTING ON JANUARY 2ND. SO. AND THAT WAS FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES, I BELIEVE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THEM, THEY WERE SWORN IN AND THEY WERE THEIR FAMILIES WERE STILL AVAILABLE TO RECEIVE BENEFITS OF WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE OFFICE HAD. SO IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE THAT WE REQUIRE PEOPLE TO HAVE THE OATH BEFORE. IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THE OATH BEFORE YOU. AND PEOPLE CAN DO THAT INDIVIDUALLY, AS LONG AS THEY GIVE IT TO TAMMY, YOU KNOW, AND SO SHE CAN RECORD IT. SO I THINK WE SOME PEOPLE HAVE DONE THAT. YEAH. OVER TIME. YEAH. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT THEY SHOULD TAKE THEIR OATH OF OFFICE BEFORE JANUARY 2ND. NO, I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT. I AM JUST ALSO QUESTIONING IS I UNDERSTAND THE FIRST IS A HOLIDAY, BUT IF YOU'RE THINKING CALENDAR YEAR, THE SECOND JUST SEEMED ODD TO ME WHEN I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT THIS, INSTEAD OF IT BEING THE FIRST. WELL, THERE'S JUDGES FIRST BUSINESS DAY OF THE YEAR. THERE'S JUDGES THAT TAKE OFFICE AT DIFFERENT TIMES. THERE'S THE COUNTY TREASURER DOESN'T TAKE OFFICE UNTIL SEPTEMBER, THE COUNTY AUDITOR NOT UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR BECAUSE OF TAXES AND THINGS. I THINK THE REAL THING IS, IS MAKING SURE

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SO WE WANT TO REVISIT THAT QUESTION. YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN. AND THEN WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A SECTION HERE THAT AGAIN IN THE IN OUR CONVERSATION OF JANUARY COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL SHALL PRESIDE OVER ITS SESSIONS AND SERVE AS MAYOR. THE. THIS WOULD NEED REFINED DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DO. YES ON OUR PREFERENCE AS WE HAVE THIS THESE DISCUSSIONS. OKAY. THERE IS ONE HIS AND ONE HIS. I GOT THAT THERE ARE OTHER CHARTERS AND COMMUNITIES THAT THEIR NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS TAKE OFFICE AS, LIKE IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION, WHICH TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE WE WAIT, OKAY, THE ELECTION HAPPENS AND THEN WE WAIT TWO MONTHS OR A MONTH AND A HALF BEFORE. ALSO GETTING THROUGH THE END OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. IT COULD. YEAH, I THINK YOU WOULD. IF THAT IS THE STRUCTURE UNCERTAINTY TO KEEP, I THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO FINALIZE THE BUDGET PROCESS WITH THE CURRENT MEMBERS AND START FRESH WITH THE CALENDAR YEAR AND THE NEW BUDGET. BUT HERE'S EXCUSE ME, YOU'RE DUBLIN SHOWS JANUARY 1ST. YEAH, BUT HERE'S THE OTHER THING THAT THAT I KNOW CHRISTINE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. LET'S SAY THAT A MAYOR SHIFT HAPPENS IF WE STAY WITH A STRONG MAYOR. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A MAYOR SHIFT THAT HAPPENS IN THE ELECTION, BUT THE SITTING MAYOR IS SETTING THE BUDGET FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE NEW MAYOR. IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. SO CAN IT BE CHANGED COMING INTO JANUARY WITH WITH THAT EXAMPLE, REAL LIFE REAL USE CASE? THE COUNCIL COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN COME JANUARY WITH A NEW MAYOR. OR THEY COULD THEY COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE ENTIRE BUDGET. RIGHT. THEY COULD. IT'D BE HARD TO DO BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S A MINOR. IT'D BE IT WOULD BE A HUGE EFFORT IF IT COMES TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. IT'S NOT EASY. THAT'S TRUE. I JUST I JUST KNOW WITH THE GOVERNOR AND WITH THE PRESIDENT IN THE COUNTY AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, THE BUDGETS PROCESS, YOU KNOW, HAS TO BE DONE BY JULY 1ST. SO THAT PROCESS STARTS TO HAPPEN ON JANUARY 1ST AND THEN ENDS ON JULY. I THINK IT'S JULY 1ST IS WHEN THE STATE BUDGET PROCESS ENDS. AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT ALL THESE NEW MEMBERS IN AND YOU'RE CREATING A NEW BUDGET, A NEW GOVERNOR, AND JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS WOULD BE, BUT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF TERM OFFICERS, AND I MIGHT BE AHEAD OF MYSELF. WHAT SECTION TALKS ABOUT IF THERE'S ANY TERM LIMITS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS? RIGHT. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, WE'D WANT TO PROBABLY ENTER IT.

I DON'T THINK IT EVEN STATES THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT. WE DON'T. AND WE ARE SKIPPING AHEAD. YOUR FIRST YOUR LEAD WAS CORRECT. LET'S OKAY. LET'S OKAY. LET'S GO BACK HERE. SO I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE DEBATING DATES ETC. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS CONFUSION ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE ELECTED. WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DATE THAT YOU END. AND I DO FEEL LIKE THE DECEMBER 31ST TO ME IS INTUITIVE. YOUR TERM IF YOU'RE FILLING OUT A FORM, YOU GIVE THE LAST DAY OF THE YEAR, YOU DON'T GIVE JANUARY 1ST AS THE DAY. IT JUST SEEMS MOST CLEAN THAT WAY. SAME THING I WOULD SAY. THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU'RE MOVING, IT'S THE DAY THAT YOU RELOCATE YOUR POSSESSIONS AND YOUR DOGS, WHICH WHAT DAY IS IT? YEAH. HOW DO WE HOW DO WE ESTABLISH THAT? WHAT IF A PERSON PURCHASES ANOTHER PROPERTY? WHAT IF THEY PURCHASED ANOTHER PROPERTY BUT STILL HAVEN'T SOLD THEIR PROPERTY IN THE WARD? BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY RESIDING THERE, BUT THEY STILL HAVE OWNERSHIP AND CHANGE YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION. THE ORIGINAL THE ORIGINAL CHARTER SAID THAT IF YOU MOVED, YOU FINISHED OUT YOUR TERM AND THEN YOU COULD NOT. RUN FOR REELECTION FOR REELECTION IN THE SEAT THAT YOU WERE IN, RIGHT? CORRECT. TO. BUT YOU'VE CHANGED THAT. AND I GUESS IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN, YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK TO YOUR LAW DIRECTOR TO DETERMINE WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS ACTUALLY THEN GIVEN UP ON. YES. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S EXACTLY SO THE ANSWERS ARE WE SHOULD LOOK AT INFORMATION THAT COULD BE PROVIDED BY POLICY VERSUS STATED IN THE CHARTER. YEAH OKAY OKAY.

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SECTION 2.06 ELECTION CONTEST. THE COUNCIL SHALL BE THE JUDGE OF THE ELECTION AND QUALIFICATIONS OF ITS OWN MEMBERS, AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF HEARING ELECTION CONTESTS, IT SHALL HAVE POWER TO SUBPOENA WITNESSES AND REQUIRE THE PRODUCTION OF BOOKS AND PAPERS.

AND I THINK THIS ALSO KIND OF STAYS WHAT WE WERE JUST QUESTIONING ABOUT SOMEBODY MOVING. SO, SO. SO THIS IS MAKING REFERENCE SO THAT IF THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO ACT IN GATHERING INFORMATION TO VERIFY THEIR ELIGIBILITY TO HOLD OFFICE. YEAH. OKAY. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ON THAT. OKAY. SECTION 2.07 RULES JOURNAL. THE COUNCIL SHALL DETERMINE ITS OWN RULES AND ORDER OF BUSINESS IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS CHARTER. IT SHALL CAUSE THE CLERK TO KEEP A JOURNAL OF ITS PROCEEDINGS, WHICH SHALL BE OPEN TO PUBLIC INSPECTION. ONE. OKAY. MOVING ON. SECTION 2.08 POWERS OF COUNCIL. ALL POWERS OF THE CITY NOT SPECIFICALLY VESTED IN OTHER OFFICES BY THIS CHARTER SHALL BE VESTED IN THE COUNCIL, WHICH SHALL DETERMINE ALL QUESTIONS OF GENERAL POLICY BY THE ENACTMENT OF ORDINANCES OR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS AS HEREIN PROVIDED. AMONG OTHER POWERS, THE COUNCIL SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY TO ONE. ESTABLISH ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENTS, AGENCIES, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND DEFINE THEIR DUTIES AND POWERS. THAT HOW THAT IS TODAY. DOES THAT CONFLICT WITH WHAT WE STATE IN THE MAYOR'S POWER? WE ESTABLISH ESTABLISH THEIR EXISTENCE, ESTABLISH THEIR EXISTENCE. WE DON'T APPOINT. THANK YOU. TWO ADOPT THE MUNICIPAL TAX BUDGET AND THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE. THREE INQUIRE INTO THE CONDUCT OF ANY MUNICIPAL OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE IN HIS PERFORMANCE OF HIS PUBLIC DUTIES. I WOULD SAY THE TWO REFERENCES OF HIS HERE. NUMBER FOUR MAKE INVESTIGATIONS OF ANY OFFICE, DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT. NUMBER FIVE REGULATE AND RESTRICT THE USE OF PRIVATELY OWNED REAL ESTATE IN THE INTERESTS OF HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, WELFARE AND CONVENIENCES OF THE PEOPLE. BY ESTABLISHING ZONES AND LIMITING LAND USE AND BUILDING HEIGHT AND AREA. DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS INDIVIDUALLY BEFORE WE READ THROUGH ALL OF THEM? IF YOU WANT TO, I THINK ANYTHING YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ONE SHOULD JUST ZONING THERE. YES, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE WORD MORALS IN THIS. HOW IS THAT DEFINED IN THIS PARTICULAR I BELIEVE IF YOU ASKED SEVEN PEOPLE, THEY WOULD GIVE YOU SEVEN ANSWERS. I THINK HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, CONVENIENCES ARE ALL THINGS THAT CAN BE DEFINED DIFFERENTLY. THAT WORD MORALS, WHAT WOULD THAT WORD ALLUDE TO? RIGHT. THERE ARE REFERENCES IN THE CITY CODE. THAT THAT USE THE WORD MORALS.

THAT'S FASCINATING. I WONDER WHAT THAT IS THAT LIKE MAYBE EXCLUDING CERTAIN USES, I WOULD NEED MORE INFORMATION TO FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT. IS IT TAMMY? DOES THAT EXCLUDE CERTAIN USES OR WHAT IS THAT? YOU'RE ALLOWED TO? DOES OUR CITY ATTORNEY. YES. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO EXCLUDE CERTAIN USES IF YOU DON'T FEEL THAT THERE. AND WE DO HAVE OF APPROPRIATE VALUE. FOR INSTANCE. TATTOO PARLORS ARE NOT IN THE ZONING CODE ANYWHERE. AND YOU SEE THOSE. BUT THE CODE GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THOSE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND DETERMINE IF IT'S APPROPRIATE IN THE CITY AND IN THE AREA OF THE CITY THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. BUT WE HAVE A CITY, WE HAVE A ZONING CODE THAT PROTECTS THE CITY IN THAT MANNER. YES. YEAH. AND I'M JUST

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DOES THAT IS THAT A MORAL ISSUE? BUT IT COULD BE. THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING. WOULD THIS NOT PROTECT THOSE DECISIONS BACK THEN? WELL, I THINK IT MEANS THAT WE CAN PASS LEGISLATION TO SAY WE DON'T LIKE THAT USE. RIGHT. TAMMY I. GOOD IT IT WAS THERE AND IT DID PROTECT ALL OF YOU. BUT THE STATE LEGISLATURE OVERTURNED ALL OF THAT. SO I'M GUESSING, AGAIN, AS YOU SAID, TAMMY, THAT THIS IS JUST A BLANKET REFERENCE TO OUR ABILITY TO CHANGE ZONING. SO IF SOMETHING HAS ONE ZONING DESIGNATION, WE COULD VOTE TO CHANGE IT. AND VERY LIKELY THIS REFERENCE IS USED ELSEWHERE. BUT LET'S SO LET'S LET'S FLAG THIS FOR SOME RESEARCH. SO I THINK THE PUPPY MILL ISSUE WOULD FALL UNDER THAT I THINK SURE RENDERING FACILITY WOULD FALL UNDER THAT, THAT WE DON'T FEEL THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT. I'M FINE TO TABLE IT FOR RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST OKAY. NUMBER SIX ADOPT AND APPROVE PLATS OF SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS. NUMBER SEVEN, ADOPT AND MODIFY THE OFFICIAL MAP OF THE CITY. NUMBER EIGHT CREATE A HOUSING AUTHORITY AND PROVIDE FOR SAFE AND SANITARY HOUSING FOR FAMILIES OF LOW INCOME. NUMBER NINE, AUTHORIZE THE REHABILITATION OF BLIGHTED AREAS IN COOPERATION WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES ON RECOMMENDATION OF AND ACCORDING TO PLANS PREPARED BY, THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. NUMBER TEN. ENACT ORDINANCES ESTABLISHING POLICE, SANITARY AND OTHER REGULATIONS CONTEMPLATED BY ARTICLE. 1818. SECTION THREE OF THE OHIO STATE CONSTITUTION, NUMBER 11 EMPLOY A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT TO MAKE AN AUDIT OF THE FINANCIAL AFFAIRS OF THE CITY. WHENEVER SUCH AN AUDIT IS DEEMED NECESSARY, PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH AN AUDIT SHALL BE MADE WITHIN TWO MONTHS AFTER THE CLOSE OF EACH FISCAL YEAR IN WHICH AN AUDIT HAS NOT BEEN MADE UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE AUDITOR OF STATE. NUMBER 12 AUTHORIZE THE LEVY OF TAXES IN THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS AS PROVIDED IN THIS CHARTER. WAS THERE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU HAD IN THE FIRST 2 OR 3 THAT YOU READ? JUST THAT JUST JUST THOSE COUPLE OF REFERENCES OF HIS AND NUMBER THREE. AND THEN THIS ENTIRE SECTION GETS A START FOR ME IN TERMS OF FORM OF GOVERNMENT CONVERSATION, OBVIOUSLY ADMINISTRATIVE CODE ONE, THE POWERS OF COUNCIL. OH YEAH. YES. OKAY. I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND THEN I'LL PASS. OKAY.

SECTION 2.09 ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THIS CHARTER AND AFTER CONSULTATION WITH THE MAYOR AND HIS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, THE COUNCIL SHALL ADOPT AN ADMINISTRATIVE CODE WHICH SHALL PROVIDE IN DETAIL THE ORGANIZATION OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT, DEFINED THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF EACH OF ITS ORGANIZATION UNITS, AND DETERMINE, IN GENERAL, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES TO BE FOLLOWED. THE COUNCILS SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY TO DELEGATE IN SUCH ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TO THE MAYOR INTO HIS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, AND THEN TO THE HEADS OF DEPARTMENTS. POWER TO MAKE RULES AND REGULATIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, THE CHARTER AND THE STATE LAW, WHEN APPLICABLE, TO GOVERN MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO BE EMPLOYED BY THE OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES UNDER THEIR SUPERVISION. I THINK WE WOULD JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT REFERENCES ABOUT MAYOR DEPENDING ON. THERE'S TWO MAYORS TO HIS. YES. YEAH. AND THEN A COUPLE OF HIS ARE NOTED HERE. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS CONTEXT. SO JUST TO LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS

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AND THEN THE, THE PROVISION BEFORE THAT, WHERE IT SAYS COUNCIL CAN ACTUALLY BASICALLY IF WE WANT TO BRING ANYBODY UNDER INVESTIGATION WITHIN ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS, WE HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT. I'M JUST THROWING OUT SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHERE THE POWERS AND AUTHORITIES ARE. WE MAY NOT HIRE THEM, BUT WE CAN. IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN ASK. THE OVERALL STRUCTURE AND SETUP OF THE ORGANIZATION IS THE POWER OF COUNCIL. BUT THE DAY TO DAY FUNCTION RIGHT IS THE POWER OF THE MAYOR. OKAY. HELLO. YES, HELLO AND WELCOME, MR. WILSON.

HELLO. MY APOLOGIES FOR BEING TARDY. SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS READING THROUGH HERE. I HAVE READ A LOT. I WAS ABOUT TO PASS IT TO CHRISTINE, AND I WILL PICK UP. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN. YEAH.

YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE'RE JUST ALL KIND OF READING THROUGH HERE. YOU'RE GOING TO AVOID THE HOT SEAT ENTIRELY THIS EVENING. NO SPECIAL READING DUTIES. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

ORDINANCES. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. CORRECT. SECTION TWO DOT TEN. EVERY ACTION OF THE COUNCIL ESTABLISHING ANY OFFENSE AND PROVIDING FOR THE IMPOSITION OF ANY PENALTY OR PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY OF ANY TAX OR ASSESSMENT, OR FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF ANY PUBLIC FUNDS, OR FOR THE CONTRACTING OF ANY INDEBTEDNESS, AS WELL AS ALL ACTIONS REQUIRED BY THIS CHARTER TO BE TAKEN BY ORDINANCE, SHALL BE TAKEN FORMALLY IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. EACH PROPOSED ORDINANCE SHALL BE INTRODUCED IN WRITING, AND SHALL CONTAIN A TITLE AND OPENING CLAUSE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE COUNCIL OF GROVE CITY, OHIO, AND A BODY IN WHICH THERE SHALL BE SET FORTH AT LENGTH THE ACTION TO BE TAKEN, AND THE CLASSES OF PERSONS TO BE AFFECTED THEREBY. EACH ORDINANCE SHALL CONTAIN BUT ONE SUBJECT. EVERYONE SHOULD CATCH ON TO THAT ON OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, WHICH WHICH SHALL BE CLEARLY SET FORTH IN ITS TITLE. IF THE COUNCIL DOES NOT REJECT THE ORDINANCE AT THE TIME OF ITS INTRODUCTION, IT SHALL BE GIVEN A FIRST READING, AND SHALL LIE OVER FOR AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS, OR UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL, UNLESS THIS WAITING PERIOD IS WAIVED BY A VOTE OF 4/5 OF ALL THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL IN AN EMERGENCY. IN THIS INTERVAL, AND NOT LESS THAN FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE, THE CLERK SHALL CAUSE TO BE PUBLISHED A SUMMARY OF THE CONTENTS OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, AND A NOTICE OF THE TIME AND PLACE OF THE COUNCIL MEETING AT WHICH IT WILL BE NEXT CONSIDERED. INVITING INTERESTED CITIZENS TO BE PRESENT, AND TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS THEREON AT THE TIME AND PLACE SO ADVERTISED. THE COUNCIL SHALL CONVENE. THE ORDINANCE SHALL BE GIVEN A SECOND READING, AND ANY PERSONS PRESENT WHO DESIRE TO BE HEARD FOR OR AGAINST ITS ADOPTION SHALL BE HEARD UNDER SUCH RULES AS THE COUNCIL MAY PROVIDE FOR THE PURPOSE WRITTEN ARGUMENTS AND BRIEFS FOR OR AGAINST. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE MAY ALSO BE FILED AT THE HEARING OR THEREAFTER BY LEAVE OF COUNCIL AFTER THE HEARING, OR IMMEDIATELY AFTER FIRST READING.

IF THE WAITING PERIOD IS WAIVED BY A 4/5 VOTE, THE COUNCIL SHALL VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT THE ORDINANCE SHALL BE ADOPTED WITH OR WITHOUT AMENDMENTS OR REJECTED. A FAVORABLE VOTE OF A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SHALL BE NECESSARY TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE. FINAL PASSAGE SHALL BE ATTESTED BY THE PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL AND THE CLERK. SUCH ACTION OF COUNCIL SHALL BE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL BY THE MAYOR, AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE MAYOR DISAPPROVES SUCH ACTION, COUNCIL MAY OVERRIDE THE MAYOR BY A 4/5 VOTE OF ALL THE MEMBERS OF

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ONLINE. IT'S YEAH, TWO THIRDS I BELIEVE IT'S TWO THIRDS. I BELIEVE THAT THE CHANGE IN 2017 TOOK IT TO A TWO THIRDS INSTEAD OF ARE YOU READING FROM THE 4/5 BECAUSE 4/5. SHE'S READING FROM THIS TO THE SAME BOOK. READING THE SAME BOOK. THAT'S 2017, CORRECT? WELL, I WILL CHECK. I WILL CHECK AND HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU. ALSO, IN TWO PLACES WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS THAN THIS DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. PLACES IT IS A NUMBER 2/3 AND IN ONE PLACE IT IS WRITTEN OUT TWO TWO HYPHEN THIRDS. I THINK JUST CONSISTENCY. WHATEVER THE OVERALL CONSISTENCY IS. BESIDES THAT. YEAH. BESIDES THAT, ANY REFERENCES WHERE THERE IS MAYOR THIS THE ENTIRE VETO AND OVERRIDE POWER. WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO RELOOK AT. CORRECT. AND THERE'S AND OF COURSE THE USE OF HIS. YES. YEAH. THAT'S THE USE OF PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL. I MEAN THE USE OF PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL HERE TOO. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE. OKAY. SO I HAVE MINE MARKED. EVERYONE ELSE HAVE THEIRS. WE READY TO GO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ORDINANCE SECTION. ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT I'M POTENTIALLY READING SOMETHING THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY ISN'T ACTUALLY WHAT WAS PASSED IN 2017, OR IS IT? I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW, DO WE DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE IS RIGHT? I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S TWO THIRDS BECAUSE WE HAD FIVE MEMBERS COUNCIL BEFORE. AND INSTEAD OF SAYING SIX SEVEN THERE, THERE WAS AN EVENING OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PERCENTAGES AND HOW TO GET THERE. SO THERE WAS A WHOLE HOUR ON TWO THIRDS VERSUS 4/5. OKAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE BOUND BOOK AND HOPEFULLY IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE. I WAS CONFUSED WHEN YOU SAID 4/5 BECAUSE IN HERE IT'S TWO THIRDS. AND I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT BEING TWO THIRDS. I JUST THE STRANGEST THING IS THAT THIS COVER SAYS 2017. IT'S THE AND THE CONTENTS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT 2017. THAT'S WHEN I WENT TO THE PRINTER. WAS IT. IT COULD HAVE GOT MISSED. IS YOURS ANTHONY? TWO THIRDS AND ALL THE I MEAN THIS THIS BOOKLET HAS ALL OF THE DATES OF AMENDED 11, SEVEN, 17 PRINTED ALL OVER IT, BUT HAS THE REFERENCE TO 4/5 REPETITIVELY. IN THIS SECTION YOU GOT THE SHORT STRAW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO PUBLICATION OF ORDINANCES AFTER PASSAGE OF AN ORDINANCE, PUBLIC NOTICE THEREOF SHALL BE PUBLISHED BY SUMMARY ONLY FOR TEN DAYS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. SUCH SUMMARY SHALL CONSIST OF A BRIEF STATEMENT OF THE PURPOSE AND EFFECT OF THE ORDINANCE. A COPY OF THE FULL TEXT OF THE ORDINANCE SHALL BE POSTED FOR NOT LESS THAN TEN DAYS AFTER PASSAGE, IN A PUBLIC PLACE IN CITY HALL. YEP. SO THE USE OF TEN DAYS. IS IT JUST TEN FULL DAYS? NOT BUSINESS DAYS. IT'S JUST TEN DAYS. TEN DAYS, TEN DAYS. OKAY. NO. NO REFERENCE. ALL RIGHT THEN, EFFECTIVE DATE OF ORDINANCES.

ORDINANCES RAISING REVENUE. THOSE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT EXPENSES SHALL GO INTO EFFECT UPON PASSAGE, PUBLICATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MAYOR OR THE EXPIRATION OF TEN DAYS AFTER APPROVAL OF COUNCIL. APPROPRIATION ORDINANCES AS DESCRIBED IN SECTION 505 OF THIS CHARTER, SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE VETO POWER OF THE MAYOR AND SHALL TAKE EFFECT, AS DESCRIBED IN SECTION 505 AND SECTION 506 HEREIN. ORDINANCES DECLARED TO BE EMERGENCY ORDINANCES BY A TWO THIRDS VOTE OF COUNCIL. THERE YOU GO. SHALL GO INTO EFFECT UPON PASSAGE, PUBLICATION AND

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YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS DON'T NEED TO GO TO THE VOTERS. WE CAN CHANGE. WE CAN JUST CLEAN THEM UP. YEAH. WE'LL JUST CLEAN THEM UP OKAY. AS IT IS. 622. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS OR ARE WE GOING TO FORGE ONWARD AND READING A COUPLE MORE SECTIONS? I THINK WE CAN AT LEAST GET TO THE END OF TWO. OKAY, LET'S DO IT. SECTION 213 ADOPTION OF ORDINANCES BY REFERENCE. THE COUNCIL MAY ADOPT STANDARD ORDINANCES AND CODES PREPARED AND PUBLISHED BY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE AGENCIES ON SUCH MATTERS AS FIRE PREVENTION, BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, ELECTRICAL WIRING, PLUMBING, HEATING, VENTILATING AND AIR CONDITIONING, AND OTHER TOPICS. BY REFERENCE TO THE DATE AND SOURCE OF THE CODE, WITHOUT REPRODUCING THE SAME AT LENGTH IN THE ORDINANCE. IN ALL SUCH CASES, PUBLICATION OF THE CODE AT LENGTH BY THE CITY SHALL NOT BE ESSENTIAL TO ITS VALIDITY. SUCH CODES SHALL BE KEPT AT ALL TIMES IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK, FOR REFERENCE BY INTERESTED PERSONS. SELF-EXPLANATORY, EVERYBODY.

GOOD ON THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. SECTION 214 INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM. THE PROVISIONS OF THE OHIO REVISED CODE RELATING TO THE USE OF THE INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM BY THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF MUNICIPALITIES WITH REFERENCE TO MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES, OR HEREBY ADOPTED AND DECLARED APPLICABLE IN THIS CITY, SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THIS CHARTER, AND AM I CORRECT THAT THE. AND I KNOW THIS, BUT I'M JUST KIND OF SAYING THE REVISED CODE STATES HOW MANY SIGNATURES YOU NEED. YES. RESOLUTIONS SECTION 215 ACTION BY COUNCIL, WHICH IS NOT REQUIRED BY THIS CHARTER TO BE BY ORDINANCE AND WHICH IS NOT OF GENERAL PUBLIC APPLICATION OR INTEREST, MAY BE TAKEN BY RESOLUTION. SUCH A RESOLUTION SHALL BE INTRODUCED IN WRITING BY A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, AND MAY BE ADOPTED BY VOICE VOTE OF A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL. NO WAITING PERIOD, NOTICE OR PUBLICATION SHALL BE REQUIRED, AND A RESOLUTION SHALL BECOME EFFECTIVE ON ITS ADOPTION AND NOT SUBJECT TO VETO. HOWEVER, THE CLERK OF COUNCIL SHALL RECORD RESOLUTIONS IN A SEPARATE BOOK, WHICH SHALL BE PUBLIC RECORD. QUESTION TAMMY ON THAT ONE. SO IT SAYS THERE THAT IT DOES NOT NEED TO FOR PUBLIC NOTICE. SO TECHNICALLY A RESOLUTION DOES NOT NEED TO GO ON OUR AGENDA, ON OUR PUBLIC AGENDA. NO, SIR. JUST MEANS I'M SORRY. NO, SIR. IT JUST MEANS THAT I THAT A NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC STATING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT TEN DAYS FROM NOW, LIKE THE ORDINANCE DOES, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO OCCUR WITH A RESOLUTION. AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE USUALLY USING A RESOLUTION TO ACKNOWLEDGE A PERSON, A STATEMENT OF COUNSEL, JUST A STATEMENT. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? AS WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES TILL CAUCUS, JUST HAVE SOME RESEARCH TO DO. YES. SO EVERYONE HAS MARKED UP THE ITEMS THAT THEY WANT TO DO A LITTLE DIGGING INTO. AND AS I SAID, WHEN WE ARE TOGETHER FOR OUR NEXT SESSION, LET'S START OFF BY REVISITING ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, SOME INITIATING SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SECTIONS THAT WE'VE REALLY STARRED THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CHANGED IN A CHANGE OF FORM OF GOVERNMENT. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE PARTICIPATING IN THIS READ THROUGH. YES, MR. BERRY. SO IS GAHANNA THE ONLY CITY THAT'S LIKE THAT HAS THE CURRENT THAT HAS OUR CURRENT FORM? TAMMY IS GAHANNA. NO, THERE ARE OTHER

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HERE. WILSON. HERE. COUCH. HERE. HOLT. BERRY HERE. DO I HEAR? ALL RIGHT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE MR. HOLT AND MAYOR STAGE THIS EVENING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. MR. BURROWS? YES. ANDERSON. YES. WILSON. YES. YES. MARY. YES. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I WILL

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WILSON. YES. YES. BARRY. YES. YES. ROSE. YES. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME, EVERYONE. I HAVE BEEN

[Welcome & Reading of Agenda]

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[Ordinance C-23-25 Accept the Plat of Pinnacle Quarry, Section 4. First reading.]

[Ordinance C-24-25 Approve a Special Use Permit for Outdoor Storage for 3400 Southwest LLC, located at 3400 Southwest Blvd. First reading.]

[Ordinance C-25-25 Approve a C-2 (retail commercial) Zoning Classification for 2139 Sonora Drive upon its annexation to the City of Grove City. First reading.]

[Resolution CR-22-25 Waive the provisions of Section 903.05b of the Codified Ordinances for the Annual Alumni Softball Tournament ano July 25 - 27, 2025.]

THREE DAYS. OKAY. THANK YOU, MRS. MCCULLOCH. HEARING NO OBJECTIONS. I MOVE THAT THIS ORDINANCE BE APPROVED. IT'S HAD ITS FIRST READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. WILSON. YES.

YES. GARY. YES. JU. YES. BURROWS. YES. ANDERSON. YES. SECOND RESOLUTION IS CR 2325

[Resolution CR-23-25 Waive the provisions of Section 529.07(b)3 of the Codified Ordinances for the Annual Homecoming Celebration on July 25, 2025 in the Town Center.]

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WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW? A LOT, A LOT. I KNOW THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AT LEAST 20. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT. I MEAN, IT'S I THINK IT'S BEEN 20. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. IT'S BEEN OVER 20. SO JUST ONE MORE TIME WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT AGAIN. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE GALLERY. THANK YOU. MR. HEARING NO OBJECTIONS. THIS RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS FIRST READING AND. PUBLIC HEARING. I MOVE THAT THE RESOLUTION BE APPROVED SECOND.

TALK. YES. VERY. YES. YES, YES. ANDERSON. YES. WILSON. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. DO. AND

[Ordinance C-21-25 Approve a Loan for 3995 Broadway, LLC under the Town Center Loan Program and Appropriate $75,000.00 for same. Second reading and public hearing.]

DOES ANYONE ON COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS? YES. GO AHEAD. SO, MATT, I WANT TO THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR COMING FORWARD AND MAKING AN INVESTMENT. AND IF YOU REMEMBER, I KNOW CHRISTINE REMEMBERS THIS, THAT THIS WE WON. WE WON A STATE AWARD WITH THIS LOAN PROGRAM. AND I THINK YOU WERE THE SECOND APPLICANT BACK IN THE DAY. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INVESTMENT. I WOULD JUST ECHO THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE TO BUILD AND GROW HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN TOWN CENTER AREA. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? AND THEN DOES OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, MR. TURNER, WANT TO JUST SPEAK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT THIS LOAN PROGRAM AND WHAT WHAT IT IS THAT WE OFFER? GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, BACK IN 2010, COUNCIL CREATED THIS LOAN PROGRAM. AND WE'VE HAD THREE LOANS CLOSED SINCE THAT TIME. THE OTHER THREE LOANS HAVE ALL BEEN SUCCESSFUL. THEY WERE ALL ISSUED AT 3% FOR A 20 YEAR TERM. TWO OF THEM HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL, AND THE OTHER ONE BEGAN WITH $150,000 BALANCE. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY $53,000 LEFT OF PRINCIPAL ON THAT LOAN. THIS LOAN WILL BE ISSUED FOR A 15 YEAR TERM AT 5%. THE TERMS OF THE LOAN ARE SET BY THE COMMUNITY CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THIS IS A THIRD PARTY THAT WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH TO UNDERWRITE THE LOANS AND PROCESS THE LOANS AND SERVICE THE LOANS, SO THEY THEN GIVE THE INFORMATION TO OUR VOLUNTEER BOARD TO ACTUALLY APPROVE THE LOAN. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, THIS IS FOR A TOWN CENTER BUSINESS THAT IS LOOKING TO START, GROW, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS HERE IN OUR TOWN CENTER. YES. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MR. I BELIEVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY NEEDS TO MAKE A COMMENT. YES. THANK YOU, MR. PERRY. MISS HOWARD REACHED OUT TO US ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE 3995 BROADWAY IS A CLIENT OF THE COMPANY FOR WHICH SHE WORKS. WE REVIEWED IT. LAW DIRECTOR SMITH REVIEWED IT, AND THERE IS NO CONFLICT IN IT. SO WE JUST, IN THE INTEREST OF DISCLOSURE, JUST WANTED TO LET THAT BE KNOWN BEFORE YOU VOTED ON IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH NOTHING FURTHER, THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MOVE IT BE APPROVED SECOND. SORRY, I'VE LOST MY PLACE. MR. BERRY. YES. DO. YES. YES. ANDERSON. YES.

[Resolution CR-24-25 Waive the Bidding Provisions of Section 153.12 of the Ohio Revised Code for building a Sensory Garden within The Gardens at Gantz Park.]

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YES. BARRY. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TONIGHT FOR FINANCE. THANK YOU

[Ordinance C-22-25 Require no further investment of staff time or financial resources at the Brookpark Middle School location outside of required utility bills or contractual obligations without the approval of City Council and to require the City Administrator to engage in negotiations to terminate or renegotiate the Brookpark Lease Agreement with Southwestern City Schools to the mutual benefit of all parties. Second reading and public hearing.]

WE ARE REALLY AT A POINT WHERE I THINK COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS CONVERSATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EXPLORING THIS FROM ALL SIDES. AND TO THAT END, THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN LARGELY BETWEEN ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR OF THE CITY. MR. STAGE IS NOT HERE WITH US THIS EVENING, AND WE ARE DOWN A COUNCIL MEMBER. AND TO THAT END, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING OF THIS LEGISLATION. ORDINANCE C 2225 UNTIL OUR JULY THE 7TH MEETING. SECOND, BEFORE WE VOTE, CAN I JUST CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? DID WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. BURROWS. YES. ANDERSON. YES. WILSON. YES. YES YES, YES, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE. ALRIGHT, THIS BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION

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HI. BRIAN PARKS, 4413 LIBRARY DRIVE IN GROVE CITY, AS THE TREASURER OF THE PRIDE AND GROVE STREET ORGANIZATION, I WANTED TO PERSONALLY INVITE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND STAFF TO THIS SATURDAY'S PRIDE FEST EVENT BEING HELD IN THE TOWN CENTER PARK FROM 1:00 TO 5:00. OUR EVENT IS GEARED TOWARDS ALL AGES, INCLUDES ENTERTAINMENT FROM LOCAL BANDS, SESSION FIVE, COLUMBUS PRIDE BAND AND COLUMBUS GAY MEN'S CHORUS, AS WELL AS A VARIETY OF FOOD TRUCKS AND LOCAL VENDORS AND ORGANIZATIONS. WE DECIDED TO MOVE THE EVENT FROM SEPTEMBER, AS HELD IN PRIOR YEARS TO JUNE THIS YEAR TO COINCIDE WITH PRIDE MONTH CELEBRATIONS AS WELL AS EXPERIENCE HOPEFULLY NICER WEATHER. IF YOU WERE AT LAST YEAR'S EVENT, IT WAS RAINING ALL DAY. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE LARGE CONTINGENT OF GROVE CITY LEADERS ATTEND OUR EVENT TO SHOW ALL OF CENTRAL OHIO THAT GROVE CITY IS A TRULY WELCOMING AND DIVERSE COMMUNITY WHERE ANYONE CAN LIVE, WORK, AND ENJOY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR

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LESLIE, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. HELLO. MY NAME IS LESLIE ZIMMERMAN. MY ADDRESS IS 4146 BELL STATION ROAD, BUT I AM IN CIRCLEVILLE, OHIO. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LESLIE ZIMMERMAN. AS I'VE SAID, I HAD THE DISTINCT HONOR OF SERVING AS THE 2024 2025 PRESIDENT OF THE GROVE CITY TOASTMASTER CLUB. I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF OUR ENTIRE CLUB, TO EXPRESS OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR THE USE OF THE MEETING ROOM IN THIS BUILDING FOR OUR BI MONTHLY MEETINGS. BEYOND JUST A SPACE, THE PROFESSIONAL ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR US IS TRULY ELEVATED. OUR MEMBERS ABILITY TO PRACTICE AND DELIVER QUALITY, HIGH, HIGH QUALITY AND ENGAGING PRESENTATIONS. I UNDERSTAND THAT ONE ELEMENT OF THE MISSION OF THE GROVE CITY COUNCIL IS DEDICATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, AND WE BELIEVE THAT OUR PARTNERSHIP CONTRIBUTES DIRECTLY TO THAT GOAL. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH TOASTMASTERS, TOASTMASTERS INTERNATIONAL IS A GLOBAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT'S DEDICATED TO HELPING INDIVIDUALS BECOME MORE CONFIDENT AND EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATORS AND LEADERS. THE GROVE CITY TOASTMASTERS CLUB MISSION IS TO PROVIDE A SUPPORTIVE AND EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING ENVIRONMENT FOR MEMBERS TO HONE THESE ESSENTIAL SKILLS, WHICH DIRECTLY CORRELATES WITH THE GROVE CITY COUNCIL MISSION THAT'S DEDICATED TO DEVELOPMENT OF COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS. BY PROVIDING US WITH SUCH AN EXCELLENT VENUE, YOU ARE DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF STRONG COMMUNICATORS AND LEADERS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. THESE INDIVIDUALS WILL IN TURN CONTRIBUTE TO LOCAL BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS, AND CIVIC LIFE. WE WOULD BE HONORED TO EXTEND AN OPEN INVITATION TO EACH OF YOU, BOARD MEMBERS AND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT TO COME IN AND EXPERIENCE A TOASTMASTER MEETING FIRSTHAND. IT'S A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO WITNESS OUR MEMBERS DEVELOPING THEIR PUBLIC SPEAKING, THEIR IMPROMPTU SPEAKING, AND THEIR LEADERSHIP SKILLS IN A FRIENDLY AND ENCOURAGING ATMOSPHERE. YOU CAN SEE HOW WE YOU GET TO WITNESS HOW WE PROVIDE CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK, HOW WE PRACTICE OUR TECHNIQUES AND BUILD CONFIDENCE WITH OURSELVES AND WITH OTHER MEMBERS. I BECAME A TOASTMASTER TWO YEARS AGO, AND I CAN ATTEST TO THE POWER OF THIS TOASTMASTER CLUB EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET UP HERE AND STAND AND MAKE THIS ADDRESS TO YOU. OUR MEETINGS ARE HELD BI MONTHLY ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY EVENINGS AT 7 P.M. IN THE MEETING ROOM IN THE BASEMENT OF THIS BUILDING, AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME AND OBSERVE AS A GUEST WITH NO OBLIGATION TO BECOME A MEMBER. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T LIKE TO COUNT ON ON THE WEEKS OF THE MONTH, OUR NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE JUNE 24TH. IT STARTS PROMPTLY AT 7 P.M. AND IT ENDS AT 8 P.M. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU THERE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER JENNIFER, WHO IS THE MAYOR'S ASSISTANT, HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US IN ANY OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD, WHETHER THE DOOR WAS LOCKED OR OR THE ELEVATOR WAS DOWN. SHE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US WITH OUR MEETINGS. SO ONCE AGAIN, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS MAYBE COMING AND, AND, AND JOIN US FOR A MEETING. MAYBE YOU WANT TO BE A TOASTMASTER AT THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING. WELCOME. I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN THE PERSONAL INVITATION, AND WE ARE KICKING OFF WITH TWO PERSONAL INVITATIONS. THAT'S THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD. I HOPE THIS HAPPENS MORE OFTEN. THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP IS I, KYRA OR KYRA. PAUL. I DON'T WANT TO. KYRA I CAN'T THEMSELVES, BUT IT'S OKAY. I HEAR THAT. BUT FOR ME IT'S MY LAST NAME. HAWK.

HAWK. HAWK, I ANSWERED, ALL OF IT DOESN'T MATTER. ANSWERED ALL. THAT'S RIGHT. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, KYRA PAUL, 4315 PROMENADE AVENUE HERE IN GROVE CITY. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT AMENITIES IN GROVE CITY. LAST SUMMER, I GOT MY FAMILY'S FIRST MEMBERSHIP TO THE BIG SPLASH. TOOK MY GIRLS 3 TO 4 DAYS A WEEK. WE USUALLY GO DURING THE DAY WHEN MY HUSBAND'S AT WORK, WHICH OF COURSE IS PEAK TIME, WHICH ALSO MEANS WE ARE IN THERE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER. AND IF I'M HONEST, IT'S NOT VERY MUCH FUN, ESPECIALLY AS A PARENT WHO IS IN THE WATER WITH MY CHILDREN WATCHING, MAKING SURE THEY'RE SAFE. I HAVE YET TO PURCHASE MY MEMBERSHIP THIS YEAR BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BEING TOLD THEY NEED TO WAIT. CANNOT ENTER BECAUSE THE BIG SPLASH IS AT CAPACITY. I WAS TOLD LIMITS WILL BE PUT ON. I'M SORRY THAT LIMITS WILL BE

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NOW, GROVE CITY'S POPULATION IS 44,000 RESIDENTS, WITH THE SAME CAPACITY OF 650 PATRONS. THE CITY OF HILLIARD BUILT THEIR SECOND CITY OWNED AND OPERATED POOL IN 2008. THE CURRENT POPULATION OF HILLIARD IS ABOUT 38,000 PEOPLE. SINCE OPENING THE HILLIARD FAMILY AQUATIC CENTER, THEY HAVE HAD NO CAPACITY LIMITS OR ISSUES. THE CITY OF GROVEPORT HAS LESS THAN 6000 RESIDENTS, AND THEY ALSO BUILT THEIR CITY OWNED AND OPERATED POOL IN 2008, WITH A CAPACITY OF 1000 PEOPLE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THEY HAVE VERY STRICT RULES AND BOUNDARIES ON THEIR MEMBERSHIPS AND THEIR DAY PASSES. WITH A $16 NON RESIDENT DAY PASS FEE. IN 2008, HILLIARD'S PROPERTY TAX RATE WAS 2.4%, GROVE PORTS WAS 2.2 AND GROVE CITY'S WAS 2.13. THE CURRENT TAX RATE IN HILLIARD IS STILL 2.14 OR IS STILL 2.4, GROVEPORT IS DOWN TO 2.13, AND GROVE CITY IS STILL AT 2.13.

HILLIARD IS COMPLETING THEIR 105,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMUNITY CENTER CALLED THE WELL. THE CITY OF GROVEPORT CURRENTLY HAS A 67,000 SQUARE FOOT REC AND COMMUNITY CENTER. GROVE CITY HAS A 650 PERSON OUTDATED AND TOO SMALL COMMUNITY POOL. IT IS, IN MY OPINION, THAT THE CURRENT BEULAH PARK WAS THE CITY'S BIGGEST MISSED OPPORTUNITY. I HEAR WE TALK OFTEN ABOUT WANTING GROVE CITY TO BE A DESTINATION CITY. WE WANT TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS WHILE KEEPING OUR RESIDENTS HERE. BEULAH PARK WAS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. IT WAS THE PERFECT PLACE TO BUILD OUR 90,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMUNITY CENTER AND A NEW AND IMPROVED, LARGER COMMUNITY POOL.

THE CITY ALSO COULD HAVE LOOKED INTO BUILDING AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE FOR SAID COMMUNITY CENTER OR BROADWAY LIVE. INSTEAD, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, NONE OF WHICH MOST WOULD CONSIDER AFFORDABLE. WE HAVE THE BEULAH PAVILION THAT RENTS FOR A MINIMUM OF 600 AND UP TO $2,000 FOR A DAY, AGAIN, SOMETHING MOST WOULD NOT CONSIDER AFFORDABLE.

TO TIE THIS ALL TOGETHER, AS A GROVE CITY RESIDENT, I PERSONALLY DO NOT FEEL THAT I AM GETTING IN. THE RESIDENTS OF GROVE CITY ARE GETTING A GOOD RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENTS, AND OUR CITY COULD DO SO MUCH MORE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, FINALLY, WE HAVE THIS EVENING. CARTER POWELL. DOES IT SAY POWELL? POWELL. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COME UP AND SAY I GET MY LAST NAME MESSED UP ALL THE TIME. CARTER. CARTER. CARTER. DOWELL. CARTER. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. CARTER. DOWELL. I LIVE AT 4113 CYPRESS AVENUE. ONE SECOND. I GOT TO GET MY NOTES. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT GROVE CITY'S CODE 505.14, WHICH HAS A COMPLETE BAN ON OWNING CHICKENS. I SPOKE TO MR. BERRY A FEW DAYS AGO ABOUT OWNING CHICKENS, BECAUSE MY GRANDMA AND I HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE CODE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BREAK ANY RULES AND IT'S COMPLETELY BANNED. AND THEN I DOUBLE CHECKED AND I ASKED A FEW OTHER PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, YEAH, CHICKENS ARE JUST WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE CHICKENS IN GROVE CITY. SO I DID SOME DIGGING AND I FOUND OUT THAT COLUMBUS, BEXLEY, HILLIARD, WHITEHALL AND WORTHINGTON ALL ALLOW HENS, NOT ROOSTERS. I CAN UNDERSTAND NOT OWNING ROOSTERS BECAUSE ROOSTERS ARE LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS, BUT I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT HENS. AND THEN I DID A LITTLE BIT MORE DIGGING, AND I SAW THAT THE BAN WAS ISSUED IN 1985, WHERE THE AVERAGE EGG PRICE WAS $0.90 A DOZEN. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THERE WAS AN EGG PRICE CRISIS A FEW MONTHS AGO. NOW PRICES ARE DROPPING. BUT MY GRANDMA NOTED THAT THE HIGHEST SHE EVER SAW THEM AT KROGER HERE IN GROVE CITY WAS $4.90. I DON'T THINK IN 1985 THAT LOCAL FOOD SECURITY WAS THAT MUCH OF A CONCERN. BUT IT IS NOW, AND WITH MANY FAMILIES WANTING TO KNOW WHERE THEIR FOOD IS COMING FROM AND WANTING TO HAVE MORE CONTROL, I WAS WONDERING IF COUNCIL WOULD BE OPEN TO THE IDEA OF ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO HAVE CHICKENS. I ALSO SAW THAT IN THE CODE THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE UP TO THREE DOGS. SO IF SOUND IS THE

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APPRECIATE YOUR ANALYSIS, YOUR FINANCIAL ANALYSIS. AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF ANY PITCH. AND I, NUMBER TWO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS SUBJECT I IS ON MY LIST OF THE MOST COMMONLY MENTIONED QUESTIONS. MANY PEOPLE I JUST RECEIVED AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK, AND MR. BERRY IS OVER HERE TWITCHING BECAUSE HE DEFINITELY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ON THIS SUBJECT. SO I'M GOING TO PASS THE FLOOR TO MR. BERRY. SO AS THE AS A GUY THAT PAID FOR HIS FIRST TWO YEARS OF SCHOOL SELLING EGGS DOOR TO DOOR, I'M 100% WITH YOU. BUT YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A FEW MORE CHICKENS TO DO WHAT I DID. IT'S LIKE 60 TO 70 HENS AND EVERYTHING. AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT. YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE DECIBELS. HENS. DON'T YOU KNOW, UNLESS SOMETHING STARTLES THEM. YEAH, BUT THE OTHER, THE OTHER, THE OTHER BENEFIT, JUST IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, IS HOMEGROWN EGGS ARE MUCH, MUCH MORE HEALTHIER FOR YOU THAN STORE BOUGHT EGGS. BUT WE WON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD. BUT WE HAVE THERE IS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT MISS KELLY HELPED ME WITH A LONG TIME AGO THAT THAT AT LEAST I CAN SEND OUT TO COUNCIL TO, TO HAVE TO HAVE A LOOK AT. BUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE TRIALS, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY IS THERE'S A LOT OF HOAS, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

SO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS BASICALLY PUT INTO CODE THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE CERTAIN THINGS. BUT SO THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT LOT SIZE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE DID THIS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PRACTICE WITH THE BEES. IF YOU REMEMBER CHRISTINE AND EVERYTHING, WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BEEHIVES WERE SO FAR AWAY FROM THE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FROM THE NEIGHBOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE IS A PROCESS AND EVERYTHING, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO LOOK AT IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST OF THOSE CITIES HAVE THREE HENS. AND OF COURSE THERE'S STRICT CODES ON ON AS FAR AS WASTE AND WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY CALL. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT MR. BERRY'S POINT IS THAT THAT'S THE DISCUSSION WE I THINK THAT IT IS SIMMERED UP A COUPLE OF TIMES, HASN'T REALLY GAINED ANY TRACTION. THE DISCUSSION IS REALLY ONE OF WHAT WOULD ALL THE CRITERIA BE OF THE PARCEL WHERE YOU WOULD BE PERMITTED TO HAVE CHICKENS? HOW MANY CHICKENS COULD YOU HAVE? WHAT COULD BE THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE? WHAT WOULD BE THE SETBACK OF THE STRUCTURE FROM THE PROPERTY LINES? AND THEN THE NEXT PIECE, IF YOU LOOK, DO THAT DEEP DIVE INTO THOSE COMMUNITIES WITH REGULATIONS. IT'S ABOUT A PERMITTING PROCESS, THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT PERMITTING PROCESS. AND SO YOU'VE OPENED UP KIND OF A LARGE EXERCISE IN TERMS OF HOW WHAT WOULD BE THE PARAMETERS OF THE PROGRAM AND THEN WHAT TYPE OF RESOURCES WOULD BE REQUIRED OF THE CITY IN ORDER TO ENFORCE THE PROGRAM. SO DEFINITELY IF IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PRETTY PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE DEFINITELY HEATED OPINIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT DISCUSSION. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE COMPARISON OF THE HENS TO THREE DOGS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE THREE DOG LIMIT CAME IN, AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL US. I DON'T REMEMBER BECAUSE I'M, I'M, I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY GOOD ENFORCEMENT OF THAT. AND I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE THAN THREE DOGS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT TAIL. OKAY. ANYWAYS. VERY INTERESTING. OKAY. THANK YOU. LOTS TO THINK ABOUT. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO THE BOTTOM OF OUR LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR NEW BUSINESS.

AND SO AT THIS TIME, MR. BOZZO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? JUST ONE ITEM. I'M SURE EVERYONE'S HEARD ABOUT ALL THE DISCUSSION GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY TAX REFORM. THERE'S A BILL, PROPOSED BILL IN THE HOUSE. HOUSE BILL 335 THAT WOULD IF PASSED, THE LEGISLATION WOULD LIMIT ELIMINATE INSIDE MILEAGE BAND NEW EMERGENCY AND SUBSTITUTE LEVIES AND GIVE COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION THE AUTHORITY TO OVERRIDE VOTED APPROVED LEVIES. THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION. IN DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, MR. TURNER, WE HAVE SEVEN MEALS VOTED BY THE PEOPLE OF GROVE CITY SO THAT INSIDE MILLAGE WOULDN'T HAVE AN EFFECT ON US DIRECTLY. HOWEVER, THERE ARE INSIDE MILLAGES THAT WE CAPTURE THROUGH TIFS AND OTHER INCENTIVES, SO IT WOULD HAVE AN EFFECT ON US IN TERMS OF OUR REVENUE. SO SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD. LOOK INTO. THE CENTRAL HIGHLAND MAYORS AND MANAGERS ASSOCIATION ARE TAKING A POSITION AGAINST THIS. SO MORE TO COME. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISS KELLY I HAVE NOTHING THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MR. SHEMP.

[Call for Dept. Reports & Closing Comments]

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SO MANY TIMES YOU RECEIVE THAT IN PERSON WITH THE MAYOR NOT BEING HERE, YOU'LL YOU'LL RECEIVE IT THROUGH AN EMAIL LATER THIS WEEK, AND THEN IT WILL BE ON THE JULY 7TH AGENDA FOR PASSAGE. AND THAT'LL BE OUR FIRST LOOK AT OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION FOR 2026. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE ROOM? ALL RIGHT. CLOSING COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MR. DO THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO GIVE A BIG HAND TO JACK CASSELL FOR BRINGING THE COUNCIL TO BIG SPLASH. IT WAS A IDEA THAT CURRENT PRESIDENT CHRISTINE HOUCK HATCHED LAST YEAR. AND I WANT TO THANK JACK FOR TAKING THE BALL AND RUN WITH IT. WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT OF COUNCIL PEOPLE, AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PATRONS THERE THAT WE GOT TO SPEAK TO, AND IT WAS A GOOD TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. DO. MR. BERRY, I JUST ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SHANNON AND CINDY. THE I WAS CONTACTED BY ONE OF MY NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT TRASH IN ONE OF THE PARKS. SO WITHIN THE NEXT DAY THEY HAD TRASH CANS AT THE PARKS. SO HATS OFF TO YOUR TEAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S THAT WAS AWESOME RESPONSE. PEOPLE ARE STILL AMAZED BY IT, THAT WE COULD REACT THAT QUICKLY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY ON SATURDAY DOWN HERE AT THE TOWN CENTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PERRY. MISS BURROUGHS, ACTUALLY NOTHING THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MISS ANDERSON. I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYBODY WHO'S COME OUT AND SPOKE FOR NEW BUSINESS AND THE PERSONAL INVITATIONS. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO SPEAK FOR A MOMENT ON THE COMMUNITY CENTER. THANK YOU, KYRA, FOR, YOU KNOW, HAVING SUCH ARTICULATE INFORMATION IN TERMS OF COMPARISONS WITH OUR POPULATION AND CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION OF THE AMENITIES THAT SO MANY PEOPLE DESIRE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO WE HAVE I'VE BEEN SITTING AS A LIAISON TO THE PARK BOARD FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE AMENITIES AND NEXT STEPS OVER THE PAST TEN PLUS 15 YEARS, DIFFERENT FEASIBILITY STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD AS A COLLECTIVE BODY BETWEEN COUNCIL, THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE PARK BOARD TO REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR AND CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH. IF YOU RECALL, THERE WAS LEGISLATION THAT REALLY ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD INTO LOOKING AT A LARGE 105 PLUS THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT CITY OWNED AND OPERATED COMMUNITY CENTER. AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO. THERE ARE TWO COMMITTEES STILL HAPPENING FOR SITE SELECTION AND FINANCE TO SEE WHERE IT COULD GO, HOW THIS COULD BE FUNDED. SO KEEP WATCHING FOR THE WEBSITE. THESE THESE WORK SESSIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY ALL PUBLIC MEETING. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO SPEAK FOR WHAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE ASKING FOR. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. THANKS, MR. WILSON. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO SPEAK OUT ON SOMETHING REAL QUICK AND JUST STRONGLY CONDEMN THE VIOLENT ATTACK ON MINNESOTA STATE REPRESENTATIVES. VIOLENCE HAS NO PLACE IN OUR DEMOCRACY, NO MATTER WHO IT TARGETS OR WHAT THEIR POLITICAL AFFILIATION MAY BE. DISAGREEMENTS ARE PART OF A HEALTHY POLITICAL PROCESS, BUT THREATS AND VIOLENCE UNDERMINE THE VERY FOUNDATION OF OUR SYSTEM. WE MUST ALL STAND UNITED IN REJECTING HATE AND PROTECTING THOSE WHO SERVE THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS THOSE WHO WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THIS WEEKEND'S PRIDE FEST. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR MEETING. I ALSO AND I TAKE NO CREDIT FOR IT BECAUSE WE HAD THAT SESSION WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS OFTEN RUN FOR OFFICE, AND THEN YOU MAY RUN INTO US IN THE GROCERY STORE OR OUT GETTING A CUP OF COFFEE. AND WE VERY SELDOM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GET OUT AND CHAT WITH THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF THE ELECTION CYCLE. A LOT OF US ARE WORKING OUR DAY JOBS AND, AND, AND SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO AND

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OUR NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE ON JULY 7TH. AND IN CASE YOU ARE NOT DIALED INTO THIS YET, WE ARE ALSO NAVIGATING A DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR CHARTER AS IT RELATES TO FORM OF GOVERNMENT. SO THAT MEETING WILL BE BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING AT 5:30 P.M. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN COMING OUT FOR THAT DISCUSSION, THEN WE WILL TAKE A BRIEF BREAK AND THEN THAT IS THE TIME THAT WE WILL HAVE CAUCUS. AND THEN THE SECOND MEETING, WHICH IS OUR REGULAR MEETING, WILL BEGIN AT 7 P.M. WE WILL SEE YOU ON JULY 7TH. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS,

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