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WELL THEN, THIS IS A LOT. OF CITY COUNCIL IS NOW IN SESSION.
MAY I HAVE MISS KELLY CALL THE ROLL? BURROUGHS, HERE. ANDERSON HERE.
THANKS, EVERYONE. I WANTED TO GET ROLLING HERE AS SOON AS WE HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM. SINCE WE REALLY HAVE ABOUT AN HOUR TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
[Charter Review]
AS YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE IN OUR IN YOUR FOLDER FOR THIS EVENING.A DRAFT, AS PROMISED. MR. SMITH WAS KIND ENOUGH TO DO THE HONORS AND AND PUT TOGETHER A WORKING DRAFT THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE IT AND CAN SEE IN RED THE SECTIONS AS YOU READ THROUGH THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED OR BASICALLY SECTIONS, OBVIOUSLY, THAT ARE COMPLETELY STRICKEN.
YOU WANT TO WANT TO. WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY ON THE RECORD, I WHEN I DID THIS, I BASICALLY WAS OF THE MINDSET BASED ON THE VOTE THAT COUNCIL TOOK, IF WE WENT TO A CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT, WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE IN THE CHARTER? I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES BASED ON THE GENDER, ETC. THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I WANTED TO FOCUS JUST ON THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK, OH, WE'RE NOT DOING ALL THOSE CHANGES. WE ARE.
BUT I THOUGHT THE FOCUS WAS MORE JUST ON THE, THE, THE, THE NUTS AND BOLTS, AND I DID.
I WENT BACK AND READ ALL THE MINUTES FROM ALL OF THE MEETINGS WE HAD ON THIS.
I TRIED TO INCORPORATE, I THINK, EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
SO IF SOMETHING'S WRONG IN HERE, IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FORCE FEED YOU INTO A DIFFERENT CHANGE.
I JUST WASN'T 100% CERTAIN BASED ON THE DISCUSSION AS TO.
BUT SO ANY OF THIS CAN BE TWEAKED.
SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU.
WHERE TO BEGIN? AT THE BEGINNING.
AND I THINK WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH SECTION BY SECTION BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
AS YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH THE THINGS THAT ARE IN RED ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED OBVIOUSLY, AS IT RELATES TO SECTION 105 FORM OF GOVERNMENT, IT SIMPLY STATES THE COUNCIL MANAGER PLAN.
SECTION 201 COUNCIL SHALL CONSIST OF SEVEN MEMBERS.
EACH WARD SHALL ELECT ONE RESIDENT FOR FOUR YEAR TERM.
TWO MEMBERS SHALL BE ELECTED AT LARGE FOR FOUR YEAR TERMS, WITH ONE SEAT BEING ELECTED IN THE OPPOSITE ELECTION OF THE OTHER AT LARGE SEAT.
AND IF I MAY, MISS, MISS KELLY AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING.
AND FIRST OF ALL, I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHERE I TOOK OUT ALL OF THOSE AMENDED REFERENCES.
THAT WAS JUST TO. SO THAT WHEN YOU HAD THE CLEAN COPY, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO READ THROUGH ALL THAT. WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THE LANGUAGE IN TERMS OF THE OTHER ONE BEING ELECTED OPPOSITE OF THE OTHER AT LARGE, BECAUSE WE THINK AT THE END OF THE CHARTER, WHEN WE'VE ALREADY LAID OUT THE ELECTION CYCLE, IT ALREADY DOES THAT.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TWEAK IF JUST TO MAKE IT CLEARER.
YEAH, I HAD TO GIVE IT A HARD READ A COUPLE TIMES.
YEAH, IT IT DOESN'T JUST ROLL RIGHT OFF THE TONGUE.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT. BUT YEAH, IN IN REPLACING THAT, SAYING THAT EFFECTIVELY THE AT LARGE WILL ALTERNATE IN THE CYCLE.
YES. AND DOES THAT IT SHOULD BASED ON WHEN YOU GET TO THE TRANSITIONAL AT THE END.
TAMMY. JUST 13524 FOR AT LARGE AND AND.
YEAH. ONE LARGE SECOND AT LARGE SEAT HIT THE FOUR YEAR TERM.
NOW THEY'RE KIND OF LOCKED IN.
SO WE PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO SAY THIS.
IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. YEAH. THE THE CYCLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING ELECTED IS NOW SET WITH THIS NOVEMBER ELECTION.
SO 135 AT LARGE WILL BE UP AT ONE TIME, TWO FOUR AND AT LARGE WILL BE UP AT THE AT THE OPPOSITE YEAR. SO IT TAKES CARE OF ITSELF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CYCLE. RIGHT. OKAY.
SO THEN MOVING DOWN THEN TO VACANCIES, WE'RE JUST STRIKING THE SECTION THAT SAYS YEAH, YOU'LL BE COUNCIL WILL BE FORCED TO MAKE A DECISION.
AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN YOU WON'T HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A BACKUP PLAN LIKE EXISTS NOW WHERE THE MAYOR WOULD JUMP INTO A POINT.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO PROVISION IN ANY OTHER CITY.
IT JUST THEY JUST LIMP ALONG BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR JOB, ESSENTIALLY. THAT'S CORRECT.
OKAY. I MEAN, WE COULD ADD A FALLBACK.
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THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, CHANGED FROM A STRONG MAYOR TO THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT, THERE REALLY ISN'T AN APPROPRIATE PERSON TO MAKE INTERVENE.YEAH, WELL, MR. BOZOS, RAISING HIS HAND, YOU KNOW, ONE COULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT IT SHOULD BE MADE IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, OR A WARD COULD GO WITHOUT REPRESENTATION FOREVER.
SO MAYBE THE 60 DAYS IS PERIOD IS PROPER OR 90 OR WHATEVER, BUT IT SEEMS THERE SHOULD BE A TIME LIMIT.
RIGHT. OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT FEEL THERE'S NO URGENCY TO DO SO.
RIGHT. AND LIKE I SAY, THEN A WARD COULD GO WITHOUT REPRESENTATION FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
YEAH. MAKES SENSE. I MEAN, LONGEST WOULD BE TWO YEARS THAT SOMEBODY COULD POTENTIALLY BE WITHOUT.
I THINK IT MAKES COUNCIL MAKE A DECISION.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK.
SO WHAT DO WE SAY 60 DAYS OF THE VACANCY STAYS? I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT IS NOW.
IT WORKS. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT.
OKAY. MOVING ON TO. 205 NOW DOT ONE.
ALL ELECTED CITY OFFICIAL TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE AND SHALL TAKE.
OH. ON THE FIRST DAY OF JANUARY, FOLLOWING THE REGULAR MUNICIPAL ELECTION.
SHALL TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE AND SHALL TAKE OFFICE ON THE FIRST DAY OF JANUARY.
AND THEN THERE'S JUST REMOVAL OF THE PROVISION RELATED TO, IF I MAY MISS HOW THIS GOT WHEN WE WHEN I WAS DOING THIS, THIS GOT REALLY CONFUSING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I WAS REMOVED.
I DIDN'T REMOVE THE CHAPTER ON THE MAYOR BECAUSE THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE A MAYOR JUST WITH DIFFERENT POWERS.
SO I KIND OF BROKE THIS UP, AND THE NUMBERING IS REALLY CHOPPY HERE BECAUSE I JUST HAD TO FIGURE OUT A PLACE TO STICK IT IN BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT ON THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING. I WANTED THE CHOICE OF THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE MAYOR SECTION. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CHOPPINESS.
I JUST COULDN'T FIGURE OUT THE CLEANER WAY TO DO IT.
I THOUGHT THIS KIND OF BROKE IT OUT BETTER, BUT YOU COULD TELL ME, PUT IT ALL BACK AND WE COULD MAKE THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND THEN JUST LAY OUT THE MAYOR'S POWERS AND THE MAYOR'S SECTION. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, OKAY. IN THE ONLY THING I DID ADD.
AND I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO DO THIS SECTION 2.0, 5.3, THE LAST LINE THERE.
SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME DEBATE AT THE STATE HOUSE, AND EVEN WHEN WE WENT TO THE TRC MEETING LAST WEEK, THE TURK IS LOOKING AT GOING ONLINE TO DO THINGS JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE.
THIS ADDING THIS LINE DOESN'T MEAN COUNCIL EVER HAS TO DO ANYTHING, BUT IF WE PUT IT IN OUR CHARTER, I THINK THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DECISION IF THEY WANT TO DO THINGS ONLINE OR NOT ONLINE, PERIOD. SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU THE OPTION.
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANYTHING, BUT IF IT'S IN THE CHARTER, YOU KNOW WE CAN DO IT.
AND WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE LIKE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, I HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT HAS ON THEIR BOOKS OR OTHER MATTERS THAT COUNCIL CONSIDERS CONFIDENTIAL. SO I THINK IF WE WANT TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE.
WE HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH THE CHARTER.
BUT I'M NOT SAYING WE EVER ACTUALLY HAVE TO USE IT.
I THINK THIS JUST GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY AND MAKES SENSE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY. YEAH, I HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT, ON THAT, BECAUSE I HAD A NOTE WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS DRAFT. WE'VE HAD SOME RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT HOW THEY SOMETIMES CAN'T MAKE IT TO MEETINGS AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, BUT THROUGH THE ONLINE ASPECT, LIKE THEY DID DURING COVID.
AND WOULD THAT ADDRESS THAT? NO, I MEAN, THEORETICALLY RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, THAT'S MORE OF A TECHNOLOGY PROBLEM, NOT A LEGAL PROBLEM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THEORETICALLY, THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO BE PRESENT IN THE ROOM ARE YOU ALL IN ORDER TO BE COUNTED FOR QUORUM AND TO VOTE AND PARTICIPATE? NOW, THEORETICALLY, UNDER THIS, THERE WOULD BE A WAY WHERE YOU ALL COULD PARTICIPATE REMOTELY AND OR EITHER WAY, A RESIDENT RIGHT NOW, IF WE HAD THE TECHNICAL CAPABILITY COULD CHIME IN VIA VIDEO.
I WILL TELL YOU, OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE STRUGGLED HARD WITH THAT BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME REALLY BAD STUFF THAT IS SAID FROM PEOPLE SITTING ON THEIR COUCHES AT HOME.
I THINK WORTHINGTON SPECIFICALLY HAD A REAL BAD PROBLEM WITH IT.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
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IT'S JUST HOW YOU WORK IT OUT IN PRACTICE.AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE TODD HURLEY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.
WELL, I MEAN, WE WORKED IT OUT AND AND WE ABSOLUTELY COULD DO IT BECAUSE WE DID IT.
RIGHT. BUT THE THE REALITIES ARE AND I WILL SAY THAT I MY ANSWER IS ALWAYS TO REALLY WALK PEOPLE THROUGH THE WAYS THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN A MEETING THAT, THAT IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, THEY COULD ASK THE CLERK THAT THAT THEIR STATEMENT BE READ ON THE FOR THE RECORD, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN PUT A PHONE CALL IN, THEY CAN PUT THEIR STATEMENT IN WRITING AND THE CLERK WILL HAVE TO, BECAUSE OF THEIR REQUEST, READ IT INTO THE RECORD AS THE MEETING IS HAPPENING.
SO WHEN WE'RE SAYING WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP, SHE WILL SAY, I ALSO HAVE A SUBMISSION WHERE THE PERSON IS ASKED FOR THEIR STATEMENT TO BE READ FOR THE RECORD, AND IT WILL BE READ FOR THE RECORD.
SO REALLY TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THAT THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF AVENUES TO GET YOUR YOUR OPINION, YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR FIRST PERSON EXPERIENCE AS IT RELATES TO A PIECE OF LEGISLATION ON THE RECORD.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF I THINK, I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME EDUCATION THAT SHOULD OCCUR, FOR SURE. AND THE OTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD WITH THIS SECTION IS THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE DO WORK SESSIONS OR WE HAVE SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS, LIKE REGARDING THE REC CENTER, MAYBE WE WANT TO DO THOSE ONLINE TO REACH A MUCH BROADER AUDIENCE THAN THE SAME 20 PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP HERE EVERY WEEK.
I'M SURE THERE'S MORE ONLINE WHO ARE WATCHING. I'M NOT DISPARAGING YOU ALL, BUT IF YOU HAVE A BIG ONLINE SOMETHING, IT MAY.
LIKE I SAID, THIS JUST GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY. I'M NOT SAYING WE EVER HAVE TO USE IT. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE? THE ONLY THING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES IN THIS SECTION, OR WOULD BE ANOTHER SECTION THAT I DID NOT SEE WHEN I WAS REVIEWING IS THERE WAS TALKS DURING OUR REVIEW OF THE CHARTER ABOUT TERM LIMITS, AND I NEVER GOT A CLEAR DIRECTION FROM EVEN WATCHING OR READING THE MINUTES AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT. CAN WE? 100%. BUT THAT'S FRANKLY, I DIDN'T GET A CONSENSUS ON THAT ONE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE TERM LIMITS? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
I MEAN, THE STATE HOUSE. YEAH, I AGREE, I DON'T THINK WE CAME TO A CONSENSUS ON IT THROUGH THE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I THINK IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT. WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF ADDING IT IN.
BECAUSE THAT WAS DEFINITELY ON MY MIND AS WELL. YEAH.
AND ONE OF THE PRACTICAL THINGS THAT KIND OF POPPED IN MY HEAD IS RIGHT NOW AT THE STATE HOUSE, THEY PLAY THE GAME WHERE THEY BOUNCE FROM STATE REP TO SENATOR AND BACK AND FORTH SO THEY DON'T OBLITERATE TERM LIMITS.
WOULD WE HAVE THE SAME THING? LIKE YOU COULD BE A WARD REP, BUT THEN YOU COULD BE AN AT-LARGE REP AND, YOU KNOW, BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH.
I DON'T KNOW, TO ME, I TRIED TO THINK THROUGH IT PRACTICALLY AND I DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER, SO I DID NOT ADDRESS IT.
I MEAN, YOU COULD I I THINK YOU KNOW IT.
IT'S A DIFFERENT ELECTION CYCLE POTENTIALLY, OR A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, AMOUNT OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO GET IN FRONT OF.
SO. I PROBABLY AM NOT AS OPPOSED TO THAT.
BUT CERTAINLY WANTING TO TALK ABOUT TERM LIMITS.
I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OHIO DOES HAVE TERM LIMITS.
I JUST FOUND YOU FOUND ONE, TWO CONSECUTIVE FOUR YEAR TERMS IN THE SAME ELECTED OFFICE. SO SAME ELECTED OFFICE.
DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WOULD MEAN WARD VERSUS AT LARGE? YES, I THINK THEY COULD THEN.
COUNCIL. NO, I THINK THEY COULD.
THEN BASED ON THAT LANGUAGE, I THINK THEY COULD DO TWO TERMS AS A WARD REP AND TWO TERMS AS AN AT-LARGE REP, AND THEN BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH.
I MEAN, THEY COULD MOVE FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ANOTHER, THEN THEY COULD BE WARD FIVE.
YES. SO NO, IT'S BEEN THE ISSUE HAS BEEN RAISED AND I GUESS DO WE HAVE ANY OPINIONS? ANYBODY HAVE OPINIONS ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? MAYFIELD HEIGHTS HAS A THREE TERM LIMIT.
I WAS IN MY HEAD, I WAS PROBABLY THINKING THREE AT MOST.
I COULD GET ON BOARD IF SOMEBODY HAD A DIFFERENT OPINION.
THAT'S 12 YEARS. IS THAT CONSECUTIVE OR OR I'D BE ON BOARD WITH CONSECUTIVE, THEN THEY'D HAVE TO SIT IT OUT FOR FOUR YEARS.
AND I GUESS YOU COULD DO ANOTHER POTENTIALLY TWO YEARS, POTENTIALLY TWO. YES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? CREEK IS TWO TERMS. SAY IT AGAIN.
I'M SORRY. BEAVER CREEK IS TWO FOUR YEAR TERMS. INTERESTING. OF THE ONES THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT, ARE THEY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER OR WHAT TYPES OF FORMS OF GOVERNMENT DO THEY HAVE BETWEEN
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THE INFLUX OF BEAVER CREEK? THAT'S A DEEPER DIVE. YEAH.OKAY. YEAH. I'M LOOKING AT THE VOTERS.
DECIDE IF YOU'RE TERM LIMITED OR NOT.
I MEAN. ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT, TOO.
THAT'S THE SAME THING WITH SENATORS AND STUFF. THE PRESIDENT AND STUFF.
SO I DON'T KNOW. I'M. I'M INDIFFERENT.
WELL, AI ONLY FOUND THOSE THREE IN OHIO.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAY THAT AN AI IS SO TIMELY TO, AS WE'RE RIGHT HERE, HAVING THE CONVERSATION LIVE.
IT'S PROBABLY SMARTER THAN I AM.
SO YEAH, I THINK THE QUESTION STILL IS OUT THERE.
AND I KIND OF AM. I COULD KIND OF GO EITHER WAY IN TERMS OF YOU COULD MAKE A CASE FOR ELECTIONS, DECIDING WHETHER YOU STAY OR YOU GO.
BUT I DO ALSO THINK THAT THERE COMES WE'VE ALL SEEN ON PROBABLY EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REELECTED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THEM AND AREN'T REALLY LIVING UP TO THE, THE WORKLOAD ANY LONGER.
NOT THAT THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THIS GROUP, BUT THAT DEFINITELY DOES EXIST.
SO IF IT IS A I KNOW MR. BERRY AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW WHAT, ON THE STATE LEVEL, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND AND.
YEAH. AND AND THAT'S NOT, THAT DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING THEIR WORK DONE EITHER. SO SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE NO STRONG FEELINGS IF IT HELPS IN MY TENURE HERE.
I CAN ONLY THINK OF TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT EVER STAYED BEYOND 12 YEARS.
SO THE RULE OF THUMB IS THAT MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT HERE FOR LONG TERMS. JUST LITTLE FACT THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER.
I THINK THE THOUGHT I WILL PUT OUT THERE.
AND IF THE CONSENSUS IS WE DON'T FEEL WE NEED TERM LIMITS, I COULD LIVE WITH THAT.
I THINK THE THOUGHT THAT I WANT TO PUT OUT IS THAT AS WE ARE MAKING THIS SHIFT TO RECOMMEND TO THE VOTERS A COUNCIL CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND AND MOVING AWAY FROM A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR GROVE CITY IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT LIMITING THE TIME SOMEBODY COULD BE IN A COUNCIL OFFICE.
AND YES, SURE, THIS PERSON COULD SIT IT OUT FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN MOVE ON TO A DIFFERENT WARD OR A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THE AT LARGE RACE.
AGAIN, JUST THINKING ABOUT WANTING TO CONTINUE TO CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE THERE IS NEW THOUGHTS AND IDEAS FOR OUR CITY.
THAT'S THREE TERMS. THAT'S 12 YEARS VERSUS BEING MORE LIMITING OF OF TWO TERMS. BUT AGAIN, WITH THIS CHANGE IN KNOWING THAT IT WILL JUST BE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THIS NEW FORM OF GOVERNMENT, THAT'S THE THOUGHT THAT I'M LEADING WITH.
YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE THOUGHTS? NO, NO, I WAS JUST SAYING I CAN GET BEHIND TERM LIMITS.
THREE TERMS I CAN GET BEHIND THAT.
SO AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO A CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT, 12 YEARS WORKS FOR ME.
QUIET. VOTERS DECIDE. VOTERS DECIDE.
HOW ABOUT YOU, MR. DO? I THINK THAT THE VOTERS WILL DECIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
HOW MANY TIMES HAS A WARD GOT A PERSON? AND THAT PERSON JUST KEEPS RUNNING AND RUNNING AND RUNNING GETS ELECTED.
BUT EVENTUALLY YOU GET OTHER THINGS TO COME INTO YOUR LIFE THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO COME TO A MEETING TWICE A MONTH.
I'M NOT GOING TO RUN, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW I CAN GO OUT THERE AND
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WIN, BECAUSE NOBODY'S GOING TO RUN AGAINST SOMEBODY THAT HAS BEEN IN, YOU KNOW, TWO TIMES. THEY WANT TO RUN THE THIRD TIME.THEY MAY NOT HAVE ANY OPPOSITION.
I FEEL AWKWARD WITH MY SELF-IMPOSED TERM LIMIT TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I SIT ON THE SUBJECT.
I WILL SAY, LET'S PUT A PIN ON THIS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS IS A DRAFT. GIVE THIS SOME THOUGHT, DO SOME MORE RESEARCH AND AND COME BACK TOGETHER ON THIS. BUT I'M, I'M PUTTING THAT THAT MARK HERE THAT WE, WE STILL HAVE THE UNRESOLVED QUESTION OF TERM LIMITS WHEN WE GET TO THE, THE, THE FINAL STAGE OF THIS PROCESS, WHICH I IMAGINE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT IN THE FUTURE. SO. OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS ON ON THIS SECTION TWO.
AND AS MR. SMITH DETAILING OUT .1.2.3 I THINK WE'RE GOOD POWERS OF COUNCIL.
THE ONLY NOTE THAT I MADE ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE WAS SOMETHING THAT MISS ANDERSON SAID WHILE WE WERE REVIEWING THIS UNDER FIVE ABOUT THE WORD MORALS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT ANYMORE.
THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT, CAN IT? YEAH, I THINK, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF OTHERS MENTIONED OR HAD ANY THOUGHTS ALONG WITH THIS. IT SEEMED IN ALL OF THE WORDS WITH HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, WELFARE AND CONVENIENCES.
I'M SORRY. THIS IS UNDER SECTION 2.08 POWERS OF COUNCIL.
NUMBER FIVE REGULATE AND RESTRICT THE USE OF PRIVATELY OWNED REAL ESTATE IN THE INTERESTS OF HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, WELFARE AND CONVENIENCES OF THE PEOPLE.
I WILL TELL YOU THE HISTORY OF THAT LANGUAGE IF IT HELPS.
WHEN YOU READ THE OHIO REVISED CODE AND KIND OF THE CASE LAW HISTORY, YOU SEE, THEY'VE KIND OF SEGREGATED OUR US INTO TWO BUCKETS.
WE EITHER HAVE WHAT WE CONSIDER POLICE POWERS HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, MORALS.
AND THEN WE HAVE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SPECIFIC POWERS JUST THAT AFFECT YOUR CITY.
SO THESE TERMS ARE TERMS THAT YOU SEE POP UP EVERYWHERE IN STATE LAW AND IN THE CASE LAW.
SO THIS IS REALLY JUST CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
WE'RE NOT IT DOESN'T I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT DOESN'T MEAN A LOT, BUT THIS JUST KIND OF FOLLOWS HOW THE STATE LOOKS AT THIS.
ZONING IS ALWAYS GOING TO KIND OF FALL OVER HERE.
AND THE POLICE POWERS, WHERE WE CAN'T BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE GENERAL LAW OF THE STATE, IT'S NOT A PURE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUNCTION, EVEN THOUGH I'VE ARGUED FOR YEARS IT SHOULD BE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THIS LANGUAGE COMES FROM.
SO I DON'T THINK IT IT ISN'T INTENDED TO MEAN, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT EACH ONE OF THOSE WORDS, IT IS MORE OF JUST THE GENERAL LEGAL CONCEPTS THAT HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS WHEN IT COMES TO HOME RULE STUFF.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT, MISS BURROWS? I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT, I'M FINE WITH IT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN 2.8 WITH THE BIG CHANGE IS REALLY JUST FLIPPING IT SO THAT COUNCIL HAS ALL THE AUTHORITY PERIOD.
ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. I'LL DO IT AT THE END HERE.
AND. YOU LAUGHING, MR. BOZO? HE BELIEVES THE WORDING IS TERRIBLE.
PROBABLY WHAT I WROTE IS WHAT I'M THINKING HE'S REFERRING TO.
I DID HEAR THE THE CRITICISM FROM THE LEFT.
WORDING IS TERRIBLE. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
OKAY. SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER AND AFTER CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER, THE COUNCIL SHALL ADOPT ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, WHICH SHALL PROVIDE IN DETAIL THE ORGANIZATION OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT, DEFINED THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF EACH OF ITS ORGANIZATION UNITS, AND DETERMINE, IN GENERAL, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES TO BE FOLLOWED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.
COUNCIL SHALL AUTHORIZE THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS IN THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, DIVISIONS AND OFFICES CITY, AND TO ADOPT A WAGE AND BENEFIT STRUCTURE FOR ALL POSITIONS WITHIN THE CLASSIFIED AND UNCLASSIFIED SERVICE OF THE CITY.
ONE. 60 ONE. YEAH, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT.
HOWEVER, I THOUGHT IT WAS NICE BECAUSE THAT POWER ISN'T SPELLED OUT SPECIFICALLY IN THE POWER, SO I THOUGHT IT FIT IN WELL HERE.
SO I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST NICE TO HAVE IN THERE.
IT MAKES SENSE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE?
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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE COUNCIL SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY TO DELEGATE. AND SUCH ADMINISTRATIVE CODE IN SUCH ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THEN TO THE HEADS OF DEPARTMENTS. POWER TO MAKE RULES AND REGULATIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. THE CHARTER AND THE STATE LAW WHEN APPLICABLE.ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
AND UNDER SECTION 2.10 ORDINANCES BASICALLY GETTING RID OF THE SECTION WHERE THE ORDINANCE CAN BE VETOED BY THE MAYOR.
RIGHT. WE NO LONGER HAVE TO SUBMIT IT.
COUNCIL. WE DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR FOR APPROVAL.
AND THE ADDITION OF THE SENTENCE ORDINANCES SHALL TAKE EFFECT BY COMPUTING FROM DAY OF COUNCIL APPROVAL. OKAY.
OKAY. NEXT, WE ARE ON EFFECTIVE DATE OF ORDINANCES 2 TO 12.
AND BASICALLY AGAIN PASSAGE AND PUBLICATION MAKES IT EFFECTIVE.
PERIOD. PERIOD. AND TAKING OUT ANY REFERENCE TO THE MAYOR.
ALL RIGHT. RESOLUTION STRIKING AND NOT SUBJECT TO VETO BECAUSE THERE IS NO VETO.
AND THEN THAT BRINGS US TO ARTICLE THREE THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND ACTING MAYOR.
AND SO, AGAIN, AS MR. SMITH WENT OVER THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSITION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE THE POWERS OF THE MAYOR CHANGE IN THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
SO THIS IS ALL ADDED. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUT OR DISCUSS AS IT RELATES TO MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND ACTING MAYOR.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WENT WITH THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD. AND THEN WHEN I HAVE THESE SIX POWERS, SPECIFICALLY, THESE ARE I COBBLED TOGETHER FROM A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT REFERENCES.
I THOUGHT THEY KIND OF HIT THE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TRADITIONAL MAYOR IN A CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT THING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO BE MARRIED TO ANY OF THESE. OKAY. AND I DID LEAVE IT PER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE APPOINTMENT OF A MAGISTRATE, THAT COUNCIL WOULD STILL APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT.
SO I DID LEAVE THAT IN THERE BECAUSE WE DID I DID ASK THAT QUESTION RELATED TO MAYOR'S COURT. YEAH. OKAY. QUESTIONS? ANYONE. NO. MR. ONE THAT IF THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR ARE ABSENT, THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBER WITH THE LONGEST LENGTH OF CONTINUOUS TIME IS BECOMES THE ACTING MAYOR. I WAS JUST THINKING, YOU PROBABLY MAY HAVE TWO MEMBERS WITH THE SAME LENGTH OF TIME. SO ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS.
SHOULD WE WRITE THAT IN? YEAH.
HOW WOULD THAT HOW WOULD THAT BE RESOLVED? I WOULDN'T PUT THAT IN THE CHARTER AT ALL.
I WOULD IF THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR AREN'T HERE, THEN WE WOULD DO IT LIKE WE DO NOW.
AND CLERK WOULD OPEN THE MEETING AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR A TEMPORARY CHAIR, WHICH IS ALREADY PART OF YOUR RULES OF COUNCIL.
YEAH. I FOUND THE ACTING MAYOR AS THE THIRD OPTION.
IF THE MAYOR VICE MAYOR ARE GONE.
BUT FRANKLY, I KIND OF LIKE WHAT TAMMY'S SAYING BETTER AND NOT REALLY ADDRESSING THIS IN THE CHARTER. RIGHT.
WE'LL HAVE COUNCIL RULES SAY HOW IT WILL BE RESOLVED.
THANKS, CHUCK. ANY ANY OTHER ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO CITY MANAGER.
QUALIFICATIONS. PROCEDURE FOR REMOVAL.
SO ONE QUESTION STEVEN IS OKAY.
HOW LONG IS THE CITY MANAGER CONTRACT TYPICALLY FOR? IT VARIES DEPENDING ON THE CITY.
I WOULD SAY NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MORE SOPHISTICATED CITIES LIKE US, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CONTRACT WITH A TERMINATE.
THERE'S A LOT OF SMALLER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE CITY MANAGER FORM GOVERNMENT WHERE IT'S KIND OF LIKE MR. BOZO IS.
NOW YOU SERVE AT THE PLEASURE IT.
NOWADAYS, YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL CITY MANAGER WITH WITHOUT HAVING A CONTRACT. YOU COULD TRY, BUT IT WON'T WORK.
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THEY MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE TO GET HERE.RIGHT? SO IT WOULDN'T DO THAT AT THE PLEASURE OF SOMEBODY UPROOT YOUR FAMILY AND MOVE CITIES. THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN FOR US FOR THE LAST FOREVER.
AROUND SECTION THREE. COUNCIL SHALL APPOINT A CITY MANAGER.
SHOULD THAT BE BY A CERTAIN NUMBER, TWO THIRDS VOTE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT? OR ARE WE JUST NOW MAJORITY WINS? FOUR OF YOU. IT'S UP TO YOU.
YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN MAKE IT BE A SUPERMAJORITY. I SEE TWO THIRDS VOTE AND YOU CAN. THERE ARE SO THERE ARE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS REQUIRES TWO THIRDS.
THERE'S OTHER STUFF IN THE CHARTER THAT DOES YOU COULD MAKE IT TWO THIRDS.
I FEEL BETTER ABOUT TWO THIRDS OR THREE MAKES IT A LITTLE CHALLENGING FOR THAT PERSON TAKING A POSITION. IS THAT FOR APPOINTMENT AND REMOVAL OR JUST THE APPOINTMENT? SIR. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
BOTH. YEAH I HAD THAT WAS THE NEXT SECTION I HAVE REQUIRED.
I ALSO WANTED I ALSO HAD IN SECTION THREE.
LIKE MR. WILSON WAS SAYING, SHALL BECOME A RESIDENT.
DO WE REALLY DOES THAT A STRICT RESIDENT TO BE A RESIDENT.
IT IT GENERALLY IS. NOW I WILL TELL YOU, IF YOU READ OHIO LAW, THE OHIO LEGISLATURE PASSED A SECTION NINE POINT.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE SECTION NINE POINT SOMETHING IN THE OHIO REVISED CODE THAT BASICALLY OBLITERATED MOST RESIDENCY RESTRICTIONS FOR OUR EVERYDAY EMPLOYEES.
CAN'T DO IT. FOR POLICE AND FIRE, YOU CAN.
BUT THERE'S WEIRD EXCEPTIONS YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH. THE CITY MANAGER IS ALWAYS KIND OF BEEN A DIFFERENT ANIMAL, WHERE I STILL SEE THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS STILL EXISTING. NOW, IF YOU EVER GOT SUED ON THEM, DO YOU WIN? I THINK YOU STILL WIN, BUT THAT'S ONE THAT PEOPLE STILL FEEL STRONGLY THAT WHEN YOU'RE HIRING SOMEONE TO RUN THE CITY, THEY SHOULD LIVE HERE. I CAN'T GUARANTEE A WIN, BUT I THINK WE WOULD WIN IF CHALLENGED.
BUT THERE IS A GOOFY PROVISION UNDER OHIO LAW WHERE WE CAN'T MAKE EMPLOYEES BE RESIDENTS.
IN THIS CASE, I WOULD SAY I WOULD LOVE AND HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE THEM BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY. YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY.
I'M ON BOARD. EVERYBODY IS ON THAT PAGE.
SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FOUR VOTES AND FIVE VOTES, RIGHT? YES, SIR. I LIKE THAT.
THAT WAY YOU DON'T I DON'T KNOW, IT'S I CALL IT THE WIN.
IT LESSENS THE LIKELIHOOD OF A BLOCK OF PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR HEADS TOGETHER AND DECIDING THEY'RE GOING TO WELL, AND ARGUABLY ONE ELECTION CYCLE COULDN'T CHANGE ENOUGH VOTES TO GET RID OF SOMEBODY THEN, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE ONE ELECTION CYCLE WHERE YOU'D STILL HAVE THREE WARDS AND ONE AT LARGE. SO FOUR OF YOU COULD CHANGE AND CHANGE THE MAJORITY.
ANYTHING ELSE I DO IN TERMS OF THIS PROVISION, WHERE THE CITY MANAGER WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING? I'M NOT SURE THAT'S PROPER IN HERE.
I THINK IT I THINK THAT WILL BE HANDLED IN HIS CONTRACT LANGUAGE.
IF I, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S FUNNY YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I KIND OF HAD THE SAME THOUGHT.
THIS THERE I HAVE I FOUND THIS LANGUAGE IN SEVERAL OTHER CHARTERS FROM A DUE PROCESS PERSPECTIVE. AND I THINK ACTUALLY IN OUR I THINK WITH, WITH MR. BEZOS SAYING IS I AGREE WITH HIM THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ALL SET FORTH IN CONTRACTS, SO WE PROBABLY CAN LEAVE IN THERE.
THE VOTE TO REMOVE THEM IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WISHES, AND THEN LEAVE THIS PROCESS TO WHATEVER THE CONTRACT OUTLINES, IF THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE EVERYBODY.
I'M SORRY. THERE'S A LOT OF CROSS OUTS BECAUSE I HAD TO.
THIS IS A NEW SECTION THAT CLEARLY DIDN'T EXIST.
IT'S A DRAFT. YEAH. I'M ASSUMING IN THE CONTRACTS THAT YOU ALSO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT REQUIRES THE CITY MANAGER OR, AND OR HIS STAFF TO ATTEND MEETINGS.
IT'S IN HERE. THAT'S UP TO COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHO.
I'VE BEEN TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
I WENT TO ONE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE IN TOWN WHERE I'M LIKE, WHERE'S THE LAW DIRECTOR? LIKE HE HASN'T COME.
LIKE WHAT? I'M LIKE, WELL, WHERE'S THE MAYOR?
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WELL, THE MAYOR DOESN'T COME. THIS IS A COUNCIL MEETING, NOT A MAYOR MEETING. I'M LIKE, I'VE DIED AND GONE TO.HE'S GOING TO LEAVE THAT OPEN. AS TO WHICH ONE? YEAH. IT WASN'T THE GOOD PLACE.
SO THAT IT'S REALLY UP TO COUNCIL AS TO WHO YOU WISH TO BE AT THE, AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS. AND OBVIOUSLY THE CITY MANAGER IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE.
AND THEN IT WOULD PROBABLY BE UP TO THE CITY MANAGER, AFTER TALKING TO HIS OR HER SEVEN BOSSES TO DETERMINE WHO SHOULD BE THERE.
IF YOU GO TO SECTION SEVEN A WHERE IT SAYS APPOINT, PROMOTE, SUSPEND, REMOVE OR OTHERWISE DISCIPLINE ANY CITY EMPLOYEE EXCEPT FOR, OTHERWISE NOTICED BY OR UNDER THIS CHARTER.
SO I GUESS I WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE WORD APPOINT FROM THE CITY MANAGER.
BUT IS IT BASED ON HIRING AND APPOINTING? IN MY MIND ARE SYNONYMOUS.
NOW IT DOES SAY, YOU KNOW, EXCEPT AS A RIGHT PROVIDED BY THIS CHARTER, WE'RE STILL A CIVIL SERVICE COMMUNITY.
IT ISN'T AS IF THE CITY MANAGER CAN APPOINT THEIR FRIENDS.
WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CIVIL SERVICE PROCESS, ETC..
YEAH, 100%. SO YEAH, TO ME, HIRE AND APPOINT MEANS THE SAME THING.
SO WE COULD SAY HIRE. BUT I DON'T CARE.
I JUST SAY WHEN I SEE THE WORD APPOINT JUST TO ME COMES ACROSS AS I'M GOING TO APPOINT.
I WOULD PROBABLY PREFER THE WORD HIRE.
OKAY. I THINK IT JUST AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH THE CHARTER, IT INSINUATES A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROCESS.
THAT'S FINE. PROCESS. AND THEN THEN ALSO I HAD A QUESTION MARK.
SO HIRE PROMOTE SUSPEND WHATEVER.
IS THAT WITH CAUSE. IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE PERSON IS IN THE FOOD CHAIN.
BECAUSE THERE STILL MAY BE DEPARTMENT OF, YOU KNOW, HEADS OF DEPARTMENT WHO CAN BE LET GO FOR ANY REASON.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS. THIS HAPPENED IN HILLIARD EARLIER THIS YEAR WHERE CITY MANAGER FIRED THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND THEN COUNCIL WAS MAD ABOUT IT, AND THERE'S NOTHING COUNCIL COULD DO ABOUT IT. SO DEPENDING ON FOR CAUSE OR NOT CAUSE, IT'S REALLY GOING TO DEPEND ON WHETHER THEY'RE CLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED AND WHAT CIVIL SERVICE PROTECTIONS THEY HAVE.
OKAY. SO THAT GOES BACK TO HR. THEN THAT GOES BACK TO HR.
HR WILL CERTAINLY BE INVOLVED. YES.
JUST THIS WAS JUST SAYING THAT THEY HAVE THE POWER WITHIN THE CONFINES OF.
YEAH. THERE'S STILL, YEAH, REQUIREMENTS YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH, ETC..
I DO HAVE A QUESTION PERTAINING TO 3.06.
WE HAVE CHUCK AND I BELIEVE CHUCK, YOU HAVE ASSISTANT CITY ADMINISTRATORS.
YES. SO WE'RE GOING TO ONE, YOU KNOW, WILL WE PUT IN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IN HERE? YOU CAN AND IN FACT, ALMOST EVERY PLACE THAT I HAVE A CITY MANAGER, I HAVE EITHER A DEPUTY OR A SECOND IN COMMAND, WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED. AND OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD JUST I PRESUMABLY, BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THIS COUNCIL, IS YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO PICK THAT PERSON ALSO, BUT THAT ALSO IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DECIDE.
DO YOU LET THE CITY MANAGER HIRE THEIR SECOND COMMAND? DO YOU HIRE THEIR SECOND IN COMMAND? YOU'VE HIRED THE CITY MANAGER. THAT'S UP TO YOU.
BUT WILL WE ADD THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION IN THIS CHARTER, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WE COULD OR WE COULD JUST ADD IT IN THE CODE? THAT'S A HEAVY LIFT. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE PERSON COMING IN TO DO. YEAH. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO DEPUTIES, RIGHT? THOSE ARE IN THE.
YEAH. AND SO I THINK THE QUESTION IS MORE, IS IT DOES IT BELONG IN THE CHARTER AND IN AN APPOINTED POSITION, OR DOES IT BELONG IN OUR ONE 60 ONE.
AND IT'S A HIRED POSITION, MEANING ONCE COUNCIL APPOINTS THE CITY MANAGER, THEY ARE CHARGED WITH.
I THINK IT DEPENDS IN MY MIND AS TO WHO DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE POWER TO APPOINT THE DEPUTY? IF YOU WANT IT TO BE COUNCIL, THEN IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE. THEN I THINK YOU'D WANT TO SAY THAT IN THE CHARTER, COUNCIL WILL APPOINT DEPUTIES OR ASSISTANTS.
IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO HIRE THE CITY MANAGER, LET THE CITY MANAGER DO THE HIRING.
YOU CAN DO ALL THAT THROUGH ONE 60 ONE AND DON'T NEED IT IN THE CHARTER.
OKAY. I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS THE CITY MANAGER HIRING THAT PERSON.
SAME ANY ANY. SO THEN IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE CHARTER.
THEY SHOULD HAVE. THEY SHOULD GET TO HIRE THEIR OWN TEAM. AND UNDER THIS THEY DO.
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EXCEPT I DID EXEMPT OUT AS WE GO LATER.YOU SAID LAW DIRECTOR AND FINANCE DIRECTOR, RIGHT? THOSE ARE DIFFERENT ONES.
OKAY. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING, MR. SMITH? I WAS JUST THINKING, IF WE'RE MOVING ON, I THINK 4.06 IS AN IMPORTANT ADDITION HERE.
WE ALREADY HAVE A PROHIBITION IN THE CHARTER RIGHT NOW REGARDING HOW COUNCIL CAN INTERACT WITH STAFF MEMBERS. I THINK IF YOU GO TO A CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT, YOU NOW HAVE A DIRECT LINE OF HIERARCHY FROM CITY MANAGER, DEPARTMENT HEAD TO EMPLOYEES.
THAT I THINK IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO SPECIFY THAT YOU NEED TO GO DOWN THIS, AND YOU DON'T GET TO GO AROUND THE CITY MANAGER.
SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ALREADY IN OUR CODE.
IT'S IN THE CODE, NOT THE CHARTER.
BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT IN HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. NO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
SPOT ON. EVEN EVEN IN OUR CURRENT FORM.
SO THAT BRINGS US TO ARTICLE FIVE DEPARTMENTS, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
AND WE ARE AT 612. SO WE'LL TACKLE THIS.
SO REALLY GOING THROUGH AGAIN THE DEPARTMENTS, EACH DEPARTMENT SHALL BE HEADED BY A FULL TIME OR PART TIME DIRECTOR APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER. SUCH DIRECTOR SHALL HAVE SUPERVISION AND CONTROL OVER THE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL OF HIS OR HER DEPARTMENT, UNDER THE IMMEDIATE DIRECTION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE MAYOR.
YEAH, I SHOULD PROBABLY FIX THAT.
YEAH. THAT ONE. YEP. OKAY, SO WE GOT THAT.
WE GOT THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
IF THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I MISSED, THE ONLY ONE I CAUGHT, THAT'S DARN GOOD. SO TWO OR MORE DEPARTMENTS MAY BE HEADED BY THE SAME PERSON.
AND THEN WHAT IS STRUCK FROM THIS IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT MAY SERVE AS DIRECTOR OF ONE OR MORE DEPARTMENTS, IF SO, DESIGNATED BY THE MAYOR. BECAUSE AGAIN, THE MAYOR REFERENCED ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT REFERENCE, THE DIRECTOR OF LAW AND DIRECTOR OF FINANCE SHALL BE APPOINTED AND REMOVED BY THE CITY MANAGER, SUBJECT TO THE CONSENT AND APPROVAL OF COUNCIL.
THE DIRECTOR OF LAW AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE SHALL SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL.
ALL OTHER DIRECTORS SHALL BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER, AND SHALL SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY MANAGER.
THE CITY MANAGER, WITH THE CONSENT OF COUNCIL, MAY SERVE AS DIRECTOR OF ONE OR MORE DEPARTMENTS.
I JUST LIKE THE WORD HIRED AGAIN VERSUS APPOINTED.
CAN BE HIRED. GOT A QUESTION? YES. JUST IN TERMS WHERE IT SAYS THE THE THE TWO DIRECTORS, THE LAW DIRECTOR AND THE FINANCE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF BOTH THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL. SO DOES THAT MEAN BOTH THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL HAVE TO AGREE TO HIRE AND FIRE IF THE CITY MANAGER WANTED TO GET RID OF THEM? COUNCIL SAID NO. OR YOU WANTED TO GET RID OF THEM.
AND HE SAID NO. IT DOES ADD A COMPLEXITY.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I'M KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT IS, IS HAVING THE CITY ATTORNEY SERVE.
IF THERE'S LEGAL ISSUES, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING. SO SHOULD THE CITY ATTORNEY BE HIRED, BE HIRED AND FIRED BY THE COUNCIL? AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT SHOULD BE. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE BY THE CITY MANAGER.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS TO BE ABOVE ALL THAT.
BUT I ALSO THINK AS A CITY MANAGER, AS SOMEONE WHO RUNS EVERY ASPECT OF THE GOVERNMENT, HAVING A VOTE IN THE PERSON YOU RELY ON FOR LEGAL ADVICE, THAT YOU TRUST THEM IS VITALLY IMPORTANT.
SO I THINK IT WOULD I THINK IT WOULD BE IT CAN HAPPEN AND YOU CAN MAKE THIS CHOICE.
BUT I THINK IF COUNCIL JUST APPOINT HIM IN THE CITY MANAGER DID NOT GET A VOTE, I THINK IT MIGHT MAKE THE CITY MANAGER UNCOMFORTABLE.
BUT THAT'S YOUR CALL. BUT I DO AGREE WITH CHUCK RIGHT NOW.
IT SAYS SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL, WHICH MEANS BOTH OF YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY GO AWAY FOR THEM TO GO AWAY.
YOU COULD MAKE THAT. SO THAT COUNCIL ALWAYS HAS THE FINAL SAY.
THAT'S. NEED MORE MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT.
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I THINK THAT YEAH, EVERYONE NEEDS SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT THAT ONE.BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THE ONLY THING I REALLY CLARIFIED WAS THAT COUNCIL APPOINTS AND REMOVES ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS, PERIOD.
SO AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IN OUR CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, THE DIRECTOR OF LAW AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT POSITIONS IN TERMS OF ONE BEING STRICTLY HIRED AS AN EMPLOYEE AND THE OTHER AS PART OF A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP.
SO I THINK THAT DESERVES A LITTLE BIT OF THOUGHT IN TERMS OF, AGAIN, IN OUR CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH FROST BROWN, TODD AND AND MR. SMITH IS THE DIRECTOR OF LAW FOR THE CITY OF GROVE CITY BY VIRTUE OF THAT CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP. WHEREAS MR. TURNER IS HIGH PUT IN HIS POSITION AS AN EMPLOYEE.
SO EVERYONE GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT.
AND WE HAVE WE'RE DOWN TO 13 MINUTES.
DO WE WANT TO FORGE ONWARD? I MEAN, FROM BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, HONESTLY, THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGES OTHER THAN CLARIFYING THAT COUNSEL DOES EVERYTHING.
AND FRANKLY, THE FINANCE SECTION HAS VERY LITTLE CHANGES EITHER.
IT'S REALLY JUST THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND THE CITY MANAGER VERSUS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT ARE GOING TO DO ALL THE THINGS THEY DO NOW.
THE ONLY THING THAT GETS WEIRD IN FINANCE IS, YOU KNOW, UNDER OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, IF YOU ALL DON'T APPROVE THE BUDGET IN A TIMELY MANNER, THE BUDGET GOES INTO EFFECT AS SUBMITTED BY THE MAYOR.
RIGHT? WE WOULD NOT YOU OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT WANT THAT IN A CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. YOU WOULD ALL WOULD BE FORCED TO ACT AND HAVE IT DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
YES. YOU SIT IN THAT ROOM UNTIL YOU GET IT DONE.
WELL, YEAH. I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU GOT TO PAY THE BILLS. YEAH.
SO, SO UNDER THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS, ALL APPOINTMENTS AND REMOVALS FROM ANY STATE BOARD OR COMMISSION COMMISSION SHALL BE BY COUNCIL IS AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT VOTE IS THAT IS THAT MAJORITY? YES. MAJORITY. SO DO YOU LIKE THE DATE DECEMBER 24TH THAT YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT BY? I DON'T KNOW WHY I PUT 24TH, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE SOME LEEWAY FOR THE END OF THE YEAR BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS NOW.
OH, IS IT JUST. YEAH. YOU CAN PICK ANY DAY.
YOU WANT TO BE DONE WITH THE BUDGET AS LONG AS IT'S BEFORE JANUARY 1ST, WHEN WE HAVE TO START PAYING BILLS.
YEAH. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD UNDER CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WAS CAN SHOULD WE HAVE QUALIFICATIONS OR PREREQUISITES FOR PEOPLE WHO SIT ON THAT, ON THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO AND YOU WILL.
IT'S ALREADY DIFFICULT TO FIND VOLUNTEERS TO SERVE ON THESE, ESPECIALLY PLANNING COMMISSION, BECAUSE IT'S DURING THE DAY. IT'S IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE IF YOU TIE YOUR HANDS IN TERMS OF YOU CAN HAVE ASPIRATIONAL THINGS.
WE'D LOVE TO SEE ONE ARCHITECT, ONE ENGINEER, ONE REAL ESTATE PERSON.
YOU COULD DO THAT. THE PROBLEM IS, IF YOU MANDATE THOSE REQUIREMENTS, IF YOU DON'T GET SOMEONE WHO HAS THOSE ACCREDITATIONS, YOU MIGHT BE KIND OF STUCK.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WILL ALL COME OUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, ETC., YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF WEIGH THAT IN MAKING DETERMINATIONS.
I MEAN, YOU CAN PUT IT IN THERE IF YOU WANT. I JUST IT WILL LIMIT YOU IN WAYS THAT MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT. YEAH. SO IN BASICALLY DISCERN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT BEING PART OF THE CHARTER, THAT IT IS A REQUIREMENT VERSUS IT BECOMING MEMORIALIZED IN PROCESS, MEANING COUNCIL IS THE DECIDING BODY.
AND COUNCIL COULD DECIDE AS WELL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PORTAL THAT'S ON THE CITY WEBSITE, WHERE IT LISTS EACH OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GOOD.
YEAH, GOOD CANDIDATES MIGHT BE WORKING IN THESE INDUSTRIES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INTERESTED IN YOU RAISING YOUR HAND, AND YOU CAN APPLY FOR ANY OF THESE POSITIONS HERE.
SO PROCESS VERSUS CHARTER, I'M THINKING.
YEAH. MAKES SENSE. I JUST WAS A THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT.
WELL, SOME OF THESE THINGS. I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE'S STILL SOME OTHER OUTLYING THINGS THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IN CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, IT HAS FOUR AS SPELLED OUT, FOUR YEAR OVERLAPPING TERMS. BUT IN ZONING BOARD, PARK BOARD IT HAS FOUR.
AND THEN THE NUMBER FOUR IN PARENTHESES.
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YEAH. WE'LL MAKE IT CONSISTENT. RIGHT NOW THIS CHARTER HAS BEEN TWEAKED SO MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS THAT CONSISTENCY IS NOT A HALLMARK IN READING THROUGH IT.OKAY. THANK YOU. DO YOU REMEMBER ON THE FIRST NIGHT WHERE I WAS READING IT COMPLETELY.
YEAH. SORRY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I JUST HAD ONE THING.
GO AHEAD. I KNOW WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION AROUND THE LAW DIRECTOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, AND THE OTHER FORM OF GOVERNMENT I'M FAMILIAR WITH IS CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT FOR WESTERVILLE. AND I PRINTED OUT A COPY OF THAT TO LOOK AT IT.
AND I WOULD JUST ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO TAKE A LOOK AT ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION TWO AND SECTION THREE, BECAUSE IT REALLY SPELLS OUT THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE LAW DIRECTOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AS WELL AS COUNSEL.
THERE MAY BE OTHER ONES OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I'M FAMILIAR WITH.
ARTICLE FIVE. WHAT? SECTIONS TWO AND THREE.
SECTION TWO AND THREE. THANK YOU.
YEAH. AND THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR INITIAL BUNDLE.
YEAH YEAH YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT EXERCISE AGAIN NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS RED LINE VERSION TO REVISIT THOSE CHARTERS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES AGAIN IN THE WORLD OF NOT IMITATION, BUT INSPIRATION.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WHILE WE'RE WHILE WE'RE HERE. AND I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH THAT I MADE THE CHANGES BASED ON WHAT THE DIRECTION I THINK I GOT FROM YOU. I'M NOT PUSHING ANY OF THESE OR MARRIED TO THEM.
I'M YOUR SCRIBE, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE THIS WAS STEVEN'S IDEA.
I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB. YEAH.
WELL, SO. AND AND TO THAT END, IS THERE ANYTHING ANYBODY DOES WANT TO RAISE? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WERE LOOKING FOR YOU DIDN'T SEE. NO.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT STEPS THEN HERE WE ARE ON 623.
DO WE WANT TO GIVE OURSELVES SOME TIME AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO COME BACK TOGETHER? I MEAN, HONESTLY, THE REST OF THE CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE CHARTER, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, ARE NOTHING REALLY SUBSTANTIVE.
I MEAN, LIKE, WE TOOK THE MAYOR OUT OF BEING RECALLED BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE A MAYOR.
BUT, I MEAN, EVERYTHING ELSE IS REALLY KIND OF CLEANUP.
NO, SURE. I JUST MEANT ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE DOCUMENT.
WE HAVE A COUPLE STICKING POINTS.
DO WE WANT TO REVISIT THOSE AT SOME POINT? GO AHEAD. ONE WAS THE NOMINATIONS IN SECTION ZERO.
SORRY. SEVEN. YEAH. WITH ZERO FOUR WITH PETITION.
YEAH, AND I DIDN'T I WENT BACK AND LISTENED TO THAT SECTION.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE EVER REACHED SOME TYPE OF CONSENSUS OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO THERE. YEAH. AND. I THINK I WAS I DEFINITELY FELT STRONGER ABOUT IT BEFORE SO I COULD BE TALKED OUT OF THIS.
IT IS MORE JUST ALONG THE LINES THAT OURS IS.
WHAT IS IT? OURS IN WESTERVILLE GROVE CITY AND WESTERVILLE. WORTHINGTON. THANK YOU.
WORTHINGTON. YEAH. ARE JUST THE TWO ANOMALIES.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND, AND I THINK WE'D HAVE TO.
I WOULD JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION, I GUESS, IN TERMS OF IF IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A NOMINATING COMMITTEE, WHAT DID THE OTHER COMMUNITIES DO THEN WITH A STANDARD PETITION THAT DON'T HAVE NOMINATING COMMITTEES? I CAN'T RECALL IF WE TALKED ABOUT THAT PIECE.
YEAH. THEY'RE JUST LEFT VACANT.
THEN IT WOULD FALL INTO THE COUNCIL APPOINTS FOR THE REST OF THE UNEXPIRED PARTIZAN.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT AND THAT'S.
YEAH. AND THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE WARD OR IN THE FOR THE CITY FOR THAT MATTER, I DON'T THINK.
I THINK IF IT IS AT LEAST SPELLED OUT MORE OR EITHER TAKE IT OUT SINCE SINCE WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW. BUT I, I ACTUALLY HAD IT REMOVED BECAUSE FRANKLY WITH OUR DISCUSSION.
BUT THEN I THEN I WENT BACK AND LISTENED TO IT.
I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY REALLY DECIDED THAT.
I THINK WE NEED IT. BUT I AGREE WITH MISSY. I THINK IT'S IT'S SOMETHING TO DO.
WE HAVE TO SAY IN THE CHARTER THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE. THERE HAS TO BE A COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING.
SO IT'S SPELLED OUT, OR YOU COULD JUST SAY YOU'LL USE THE BOARD OF ELECTION PETITIONS.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S MY I THINK WE SHOULD WANT TO BE UNIFORM.
WE SHOULD WANT TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK IT'S VERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON TO EVEN KNOW HOW TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE.
SO IT'S JUST TO ME, IT'S A ROADBLOCK WE CAN TAKE OUT OF THE WAY.
AND IT DOESN'T THAT FIVE PERSON COMMITTEE DOES NOT GET TO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE NOT CERTIFIED, YOU DON'T GET TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
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YOU JUST WOULD GET TO CHANGE SOMETHING IN THE INTERIM.CORRECT? YES. YEAH, I THINK SO.
YOU'D HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED AND THEN.
YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED. AND THEN YOU COULD PUT SOMEBODY ELSE IN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED, IF THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO.
BUT IF THEY, IF THAT PERSON DECIDES NOT TO RUN, THEN THERE'S JUST NOBODY THERE.
BUT I FEEL IT'S MUTE IF YOUR COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY.
I MEAN, WHAT'S. YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST, I JUST, I JUST LOOK AT IT. I DON'T SEE THAT IF WE NEED TO CHANGE, IT'S LIKE AN ANSWER IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM.
WELL, I THINK THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS WOULD LOVE TO SEE US STREAMLINE THE PROCESS. I THINK YES, THEY IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES AND I THINK TO THE, TO THE THE POINT THAT YOU RAISED OF REMOVING A BARRIER SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE CAN RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE BECAUSE IT IS CONFUSING IN TERMS OF WHERE DO I START FIRST? AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THIS NOMINATING COMMITTEE AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT IT OBVIOUSLY IS DIFFERENT THAN THE MAJORITY OF THE OTHER PETITIONS OTHER THAN WORTHINGTON.
SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, EXACTLY WHAT IS IT THAT I NEED WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY WHEN YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU ARE UP AGAINST NOT MAKING ANY MISTAKES ON THAT PETITION BECAUSE THERE IS A GREAT POSSIBILITY OF YOU NOT GETTING CERTIFIED.
RIGHT. SO I, I AFTER SAYING THAT FROM WHAT I STATED AT THE VERY BEGINNING, I WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE ON THE CASE OF REMOVING THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE AND HAVING A STANDARD PETITION. AND THEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENS DURING THAT RACE, IT'S UP TO COUNCIL WHEN THE NEW WHEN THE NEW ELECTION SESSION CYCLE BEGINS.
JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS SUBJECT UNDER 2.06 ELECTIONS CONTEST, IT SAYS THE COUNCIL SHALL BE THE JUDGE OF THE ELECTIONS AND QUALIFICATIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS FURTHER EXAMINATION.
STEPHEN, IN TERMS OF OF THIS DISCUSSION, I.
EXCUSE ME. YEAH. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN WEIRD TO ME.
YES. I THINK WE HAVE THIS PROVISION AND THERE'S BEEN AT LEAST TWICE IN MY TENURE AS LAW DIRECTOR WHERE I GOT HAULED DOWN TO THE ELECTIONS BOARD TO.
THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR MY OPINION.
THEY LITERALLY HAD ME READ OUR CHARTER SECTION INTO THE MINUTES, AND THEN THEY MADE WHATEVER DECISION THEY WANTED.
I THINK IT NEEDS ELIMINATED OR SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE TO IT.
I. CAN YOU EXPAND ON WHY? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, FRANKLY, REALLY WORK THIS WAY.
ALL THESE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF WHETHER A PETITION IS PROPER, NOT PROPER IS ALL GOING TO BE DETERMINED BY THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS.
AND YOU ALL REALLY DON'T HAVE THE I MEAN, THEORETICALLY, SHOULD YOU HAVE THE POWER TO OVERRIDE THEIR DECISION? YES.
PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, DO YOU KNOW IN THE ELECTIONS BOARD IS A VERY PARTIZAN BODY. BUT YOU CAN'T BEAT I MEAN WE COULD TRY BUT SO YEAH I'VE ALWAYS THE ELECTION CONTEST IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE.
YEAH IN THEORY IT SAYS YOU WIN.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IN PRACTICE THAT YOU WOULD EVER WIN.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT THIS IS OUR STOPPING POINT.
GIVE SOME THOUGHT AGAIN TO TIMING WHEN WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TOGETHER TO GO THROUGH AGAIN WHAT WE'VE TWEAKED THIS EVENING AND THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE STILL LOOSE ENDS AND WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS, I THINK IS THE LANGUAGE THAT MISS KELLY WANTS ME TO USE IN ORDER FOR IT TO GO TO CAUCUS.
THANKS, EVERYONE. WE'LL BE BACK. FORWARD.
GROVE CITY COUNCIL IS NOW IN SESSION.
PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. AS COUNCIL IS RECONVENING BECAUSE WE STARTED
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OUR EVENING EARLY. WE DO NOT NEED TO CALL THE ROLL.[Approval of Minutes ]
I WILL NOW MAKE A MOTION TO DISPENSE WITH THE READING OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING, WHICH IS AUGUST THE 18TH, 2025, AND APPROVE THEM AS WRITTEN.IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? YES. ANDERSON. YES. WILSON.
I CANNOT BELIEVE HERE WE ARE IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.
AND BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE'RE WE HAVE AN ACTION PACKED EVENING THIS TONIGHT. AND I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE SHUFFLING AROUND THE BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION
[Bicycle Task Force Report ]
TASK FORCE WAS ON AN UNDER NEW BUSINESS, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION CONVERSATION TONIGHT. AND SO I'M MOVING YOU AND YOUR PRESENTATION TO BE FIRST.SO IF YOU I'M I'M LOOKING AT BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING IT'S YOU.
SO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND AND GIVE US YOUR REPORT.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JIM DANIELS AND I AM ON AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL'S BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE.
WHICH MY SON IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK, WHO LIKES TO CALL UP EVERY THURSDAYS TO CHECK IN AND ONE THURSDAY EVERY MONTH.
I'M NOT THERE BECAUSE I'M AT THE MEETING.
HE CALLS IT. I'M AT MY BICYCLE PARTY.
HE'S ONLY THREE, SO WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY FELLOW TASK FORCE MEMBER, OUR CHAIRMAN JOSH STAMPER, IN THE BACK, AND OUR EX-OFFICIO MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRY, UP HERE ON THE DAIS.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK.
I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY ACKNOWLEDGE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE KIM SHIELDS OF DEVELOPMENT, WHO PUTS BICYCLING UP AT THE HEAD OF JUST ABOUT EVERY MEETING TO EVERY ENTITY THAT SHE GOES THROUGH, TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT.
AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRY, FOR BEING OUR MEMBER FROM THE COUNCIL.
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK FORMER SERVICES DIRECTOR CINDY FITZPATRICK AND CURRENT DIRECTOR SHANNON HAMMONDS, NOW DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FITZPATRICK, FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE TO HELP US AND ALSO TO COUNCIL CLERK TAMMY KELLY, WHO ORGANIZES US AND KEEPS US MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THAT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE ON BICYCLES A LOT.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE WOULD SERIOUSLY LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT BEFORE YOU COMES WITH A PRICE TAG ON IT.
WE DON'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY, AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE TO BE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR ARE SO SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE DO. SO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THAT.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I AM HERE TONIGHT IS TO JUST TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE THAT WAS CALLED FOR IN THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION CRO3 23 THAT SEATED OUR TASK FORCE.
COUPLE THE ITEMS THAT THAT RESOLUTION CALLED FOR US TO ADDRESS WAS CONNECTIONS TO BATTELLE, DARBY CREEK.
THE CAMP CHASE TRAIL, WHICH IS PART OF THE OHIO TO ERIE TRAIL AND THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. WE THINK THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED WAYS TO GET THERE, AND WE HAVE PRESENTED THOSE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TICK THAT ONE OFF.
ALSO THE GANTZ ROAD BRIDGE OVER INTERSTATE 270.
THAT WAS JUST COMPLETED AND OPENED.
THAT IS GOING TO BE A BIG THING TO HELP PEOPLE GET FROM OUR AREA INTO SOUTHWEST COLUMBUS AND BEYOND. SO THAT'S ANOTHER BIG THING.
ANOTHER ITEM IS TO WORK WITH COMMUNITIES, OTHER COMMUNITIES AND ENTITIES ON CONNECTIVITY. WE FOUND OUT IN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR IS THAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH TOWNSHIPS, COUNTY, THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, AND BECAUSE IT INVOLVED BOLTON FIELD, WE HAD TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE FAA ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO WE UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT YOU GO THROUGH HERE IN THE CITY FOR A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES. WE ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MORPC, THE METROPARKS, THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND WHATEVER OTHER ENTITY THAT KIM SHIELDS CAN GET IN FRONT OF AND TALK ABOUT BICYCLING CYCLING ISSUES.
ANOTHER ITEM CALLED FOR IN THE RESOLUTION WAS TO ESTABLISH SAFE BICYCLE ROUTES.
AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT US AS YOUR KIND OF STREET LEVEL EYES.
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AND WE CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND CALL OUT SAFETY ISSUES MORE THAN ANYTHING.AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO COUNT ON COUNCIL TO HAVE US DO THAT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ONE OF THE RESOLUTION POINTS THAT CALLS FOR THE TASK FORCE TO IDENTIFY GRANTS. THE REASON WHY WE ASKED THIS QUESTION IS THAT WE KNOW THAT GROVE CITY STAFF, MORPC AND THE METRO PARKS, EVERYBODY ELSE IS ALREADY WORKING ON FUNDING MECHANISMS AND GRANTS, AND WE KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WAY OF ANYBODY, AND WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO DUPLICATE ANYBODY'S EFFORTS.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF STRIKE THAT FROM THE RESOLUTION. WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO COORDINATE BIKE FRIENDLY AMERICA EFFORTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL EARLIER IS THAT GROVE CITY ACHIEVED BIKE FRIENDLY AMERICA BRONZE STATUS ON OUR FIRST APPLICATION, AND THAT IS NOT THE NORM.
THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE GET THE APPLICATION HANDED BACK TO THEM AND SAID, YOU NEED TO FIX THIS OR YOU NEED TO DO THIS.
WE GOT BRONZE STATUS ON OUR FIRST APPLICATION.
SO THAT IS IT'S A BIG TIP OF THE HAT TO THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY GOING ON BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE. OUR TASK FORCE WAS INFORMED, AND WE JUST PUT THOSE INTO WRITING, AND NOW WE HAVE STATUS FOR IT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WORKING TOWARD SILVER STATUS.
AND JOSH SAYS, WHY WORRY ABOUT SILVER STATUS? LET'S GO FOR PLATINUM.
SO THAT MAY TAKE A WHILE, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO KEEP WORKING TOWARD THAT. ANOTHER ITEM WAS TO PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH A REPORT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS AN ANNUAL REPORT, THAT WE WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND HIGHLIGHT THE STUFF THAT WE ARE DOING.
I BELIEVE THAT CLERK KELLY HAS PUT SOME OTHER, SOME THINGS BEFORE YOU TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
A COUPLE OF NEW ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU.
WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ALONG WITH THE CITY TO PROMOTE BICYCLING SAFETY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE THE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH ASPECTS OF IT.
AND THE NOT ONLY THE RECREATION, BUT THE NECESSARY TRANSPORTATION THAT PEOPLE NEED TO GET TO AND FROM JOBS HERE IN GROVE CITY.
IF YOU GO OUTSIDE THE WALMARTS AND THE MYERS AND THE KROGER'S AROUND THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU WILL FIND BIKES LOCKED UP OVER THERE SOMEPLACE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO RIDE THEIR BIKES TO WORK, AND WE WANT TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP THEM OUT, TOO. ONE FINAL ITEM IS WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO INCREASE CYCLABILITY IN GROVE CITY, OHIO.
THE ORDER'S ROAD PROJECT LAST YEAR THAT FINALLY OPENED UP.
WE HAVE THE RECENT COMPLETION OF THE HORN ROAD PROJECT THAT GETS US ALL THE WAY FROM RIGHT HERE OUT TO ORDERS ROAD.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE THE CONNECTION TO THE CONNECTIVITY TO FARMSTEAD, WHICH GOES RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE THROUGH INDIAN TRAILS PARK, WHICH GETS ALL THOSE PEOPLE CONNECTED TO EVERYTHING BACK UP IN THIS DIRECTION, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A BIG THING.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE EFFORTS GOING ON RIGHT NOW TO REESTABLISH THE BIKE PATH THROUGH THE BEULAH AREA INTO BRECK PARK.
MY NIECE LIVES OVER THERE AND SHE TOLD ME THAT PEOPLE ARE BACK THERE WORKING RIGHT NOW.
ALSO THE UPCOMING PROJECTS ON HOOVER ROAD, ON THE BRIDGE AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON ON MCDOWELL ROAD. SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE.
AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
YES, MR. MAYOR. SO I GOT TO GIVE THE HATS OFF TO THE TO THE TASK FORCE.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS, WE DIVIDED THE CITY UP INTO, I THINK, I DON'T REMEMBER, FOUR QUADRANTS OR FIVE QUADRANTS WHERE SIX QUADRANTS AND TWO ON TWO PEOPLE TEAMS. AND WE WENT OUT ON EVERY SINGLE PATH THAT WE HAD.
AND POOR CINDY, WHEN WE CAME BACK BECAUSE WE WERE TELLING HER WHICH CORNERS WERE BAD, WHICH TREES WERE IN THE WAY AND WHERE OUR CONNECTIVITY, WHERE WE HAD CONNECTIVITY ISSUES. SO THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN OUT ON THE ROADS YOU KNOW, AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CONNECTING TO THE CAMP CHASE TRAIL AND EVERYTHING.
WE'RE OUT THERE RIDING THOSE ROUTES TO FIND OUT WHICH ROUTES, THE BEST WAY TO GO INTO COLUMBUS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I MEAN, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY'VE PUT IN IS UNBELIEVABLE.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY AND, AND THE BICYCLE SAFETY AND, AND GETTING THESE AVENUES TO COLUMBUS AND THE
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CAMP CHASE TRAIL DONE.THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL.
YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS REPORT.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU CONTEMPLATE THE CHARGE OF A TASK FORCE, AND YOU CAME TO US WITH YOUR REPORT.
IT SAYS OCTOBER 2023, AND HERE WE ARE.
WE'LL SOON WILL BE IN OCTOBER 2025.
SO I WOULD HAVE TO SAY WE NEED TO CALL YOU THE AN ADVISORY GROUP OR SOMETHING TO BECAUSE YOU'VE YOU'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR CHARGE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR, YOUR CONTRIBUTION AND FOR CONTINUING TO BE STREET LEVEL EYES, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN WHEN YOU'RE IN AN AUTOMOBILE. ALL RIGHT.
[Welcome & Reading of Agenda ]
THAT BRINGS US TO OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.AND TONIGHT UNDER SERVICE, WE HAVE RESOLUTION CR 35, 25, CR 36, 25 CR 3725.
UNDER FINANCE, WE HAVE ORDINANCE C 3425, RESOLUTION CR 3825.
AND UNDER PARKS, WE HAVE RESOLUTION CR 3225.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THIS AGENDA IS APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
SEEING NONE, I WILL TURN THE FLOOR OVER.
IT'S ALL I CAN DO NOT TO SAY TO LANDS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO SERVICE WITH MR. DO THIS EVENING. MR.. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.
IF IT PLEASES THE PRESIDENT AND OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO READ ALL THREE OF THESE RESOLUTIONS TOGETHER AT ONE TIME AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO THE LAW DIRECTOR, STEPHEN SMITH TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. FIRST RESOLUTION IS RESOLUTION CR 3525 INTENT TO PROPOSE APPROPRIATE PROPERTY
[Resolution CR-35-25 Intent to Appropriate Property and Easements for Improvements to Jackson Pike to install a Shared Use Path to support safe vehicular, pedestrian and bicycle traffic in conjunction with development along the Project Corridor. ]
AND EASEMENTS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO JACKSON PIKE.TO INSTALL A SHARED USE PATH TO SUPPORT SAFE VEHICULAR, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRAFFIC IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE PROJECT CORRIDOR. SECOND RESOLUTION IS CR 36.
MAY I INTERJECT REALLY QUICKLY? IS IS THIS GOING TO GET US IN TROUBLE? SHOULD WE DO A BACK AND FORTH? YOU'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON EACH ONE INDEPENDENTLY, SO IT'S UP TO YOU.
I WOULD SAY MAYBE THE FIRST TWO REALLY DO GO TOGETHER.
SO MAYBE IF YOU JUST CONTINUE ON THE SECOND ONE, THEN I CAN TALK ABOUT THESE TWO TOGETHER.
NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. CR 3625 INTENT TO APPROPRIATE PROPERTY FOR IMPROVEMENTS
[Resolution CR-36-25 Intent to Appropriate Property for Improvements to the Jackson Pike/Hawthorne Parkway Intersection and related Improvements for the Public Purpose of making or repairing a public road to be open to the public at no charge. ]
TO THE JACKSON PIKE HAWTHORNE PARKWAY INTERSECTION AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF MAKING A OR REPAIRING PUBLIC ROADS TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT NO CHARGE. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. SMITH. THANK YOU. SIR.THIS IS REALLY THE SAME PROJECT.
IT REALLY IS JUST TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
ONE IS PUTTING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN AT HAWTHORNE PARKWAY AND JACKSON PIKE.
UNDER THE LAW, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED QUICKTAKE POWER, WHICH MEANS IF IT INVOLVES A ROADWAY, THE MOMENT THAT WE PUT THE MONEY ON DEPOSIT WITH THE COURT, THEN WE CAN PUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE COURT TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT.
IT JUST. WE CAN GO TO WORK IMMEDIATELY.
THE OTHER PART OF THIS PROJECT, AS YOU CAN SEE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN NOW, IS THE BIKE PATH. THE BIKE PATH IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS UNDER OHIO LAW THAT IF WE DID IT WITH A ROAD AT THE SAME TIME, WE COULD DO IT UNDER THE SAME QUICK TAKE THEORY WE ARE USING HERE FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT FIXING THE ROAD HERE.
WE'RE PUTTING IN A BIKE PATH WHICH GOES ALONG WITH OUR BIKE TASK FORCE PRESENTATION.
WE BELIEVE WE NEED THIS BIKE PATH.
THERE ARE FOUR PROPERTY OWNERS AMONGST THEM ALONG THERE.
I HAVE TALKED TO ALL FOUR OF THEM.
I THINK THREE OF THEM I WILL SETTLE WITH, FRANKLY, QUITE EASILY. AND THE FOURTH HAS TOLD US THERE'S NO CHANCE IN HECK THEY WILL EVER GIVE US THE LAND, SO WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM THEM.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDER THE LAW.
THE PROBLEM IS IT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ONE, BECAUSE THIS ONE TAKES LONGER AND WE CAN'T BUILD THE PROJECT UNTIL THE COURT CASE IS RESOLVED, WHICH FRANKLY, COULD TAKE FOREVER.
SO IT'S THE SAME PROJECT, TWO SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, ALL THIS DOES IS START THE PROCESS.
IF COUNCIL ENACTS THESE ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS TONIGHT.
I HAVE TO SEND EACH OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHAT'S CALLED A GOOD FAITH OFFER LETTER SAYING, HEY, WE NEED YOUR LAND FOR THIS, AND HERE'S OUR APPRAISALS.
WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO PAY YOU.
CONTACT ME AND LET'S GET THIS WORKED OUT.
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AND LIKE I SAID, FOR THREE OF THE FOUR, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE EASY.I'VE ALREADY MET WITH THEM. I'VE TALKED TO THEM. THEY THEY LOVE THE IDEA.
THE FOURTH, WHO OWNS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT THEY PURCHASED WITH PUBLIC DOLLARS, DOESN'T WANT THE PUBLIC ON IT.
SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF CUTE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEIR LAND.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. OH, AND I DO APOLOGIZE, SIR. ONE CLARIFICATION IS I CAN'T FILE TO TAKE ANY OF THIS LAND.
I STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AGAIN.
THIS IS JUST STARTING THE PROCESS SO I CAN SEND THE LETTERS OUT.
AND THEN BASED ON THE RESPONSES I GET FROM THE LETTERS, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I'M GOING OUT TO SUE PEOPLE TOMORROW. I'M NOT SORRY, SIR. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
SEEING THAT THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT RESOLUTION KR 3525 HAS HAD ITS READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT IT BE APPROVED.
I DO HAVE COMMENTS TO MAKE REAL QUICK.
WE NEED A SECOND, FIRST SECOND, SECOND.
SORRY IF YOU HAD ALREADY OPENED IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR SPEAKING, AND I MISSED THAT PIECE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF WARD FOUR, WHERE THIS IS OUR SCIOTO MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD AND HENNIGAN'S GROVE. DO JUST SIT OUT THERE SOMEWHAT DISCONNECTED BECAUSE OF 104 TO THE REST OF OUR COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE TO SAFELY GET INTO AREAS OF GROVE CITY THROUGH RUNNING AND BIKING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, AGAIN, WE DID HAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION FROM THE BICYCLE TASK FORCE, AND THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL MEMBERS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES TO CONNECT FURTHER INTO OUR CITY AND THEN UTILIZE THE NEW PATHS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED TO GET INTO COLUMBUS. SO WHILE THIS IS, I KNOW, SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING THROUGH ACQUIRING LAND, THIS IS A REALLY USEFUL AND IMPORTANT PIECE FOR SAFETY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE ALREADY RUNNING ACROSS 104.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN LONG AWAITED.
MR. TIFFORD, IS THIS DOES THIS GO TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? MR. HOLDEN DOES. AND YOU HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WITH GOLF CARTS CONNECTING TO THE REST OF THE CITY, RIGHT? YES. IT'S PROPOSED AS AN EIGHT FOOT ASPHALT SHARED USE PATH.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ALLOWING GOLF CARTS ON THIS PATH? WHOEVER'S STEVEN OR WHOEVER.
WHAT WOULD WE HAVE TO DO TO ALLOW GOLF CARTS TO USE THIS PATH? WE WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE CODE TO ALLOW GOLF CARTS ON BIKE PATHS, WHICH I DO NOT BELIEVE ARE PERMITTED RIGHT NOW.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE CODE, SIR. COULD YOU AMEND THE CODE FOR.
YOU COULD WRITE IT SUCH THAT YOU COULD DECLARE CERTAIN SECTIONS AVAILABLE FOR GOLF CARTS, I THINK SO. YEAH.
I MEAN, THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WE DECLARED CERTAIN ROADS AVAILABLE FOR GOLF CARTS AND EXCLUDED OTHERS. SO, YEAH, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, MOST LAWS YOU LOOK AT UNIFORMLY APPLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
HOWEVER, WE COULD COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, HEY, ON THIS, THIS STRETCH CAN BE USED FOR, YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SIGN IT APPROPRIATELY. SO, YES, WE COULD DO THAT. THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO CROSS 104 SAFELY RIGHT? WITHOUT. AND THEN WHEN THEY GET OVER, THIS SOLVES A COUPLE PROBLEMS. BUT MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE EIGHT FOOT GOLF CARTS 48IN WIDE.
SO IT WOULD BE WIDE ENOUGH, BUT WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT WIDER SO THAT IF IT WAS MULTI-USE BICYCLES, JOGGERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, IT COULD BE EVEN WIDER? WOULD THAT REQUIRE A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF LAND OR.
YEAH, THE PROBLEM THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE ALREADY HAD TO HAVE THIS THING APPRAISED TWICE AND SURVEYED TWICE, BECAUSE WE HAD TO CHUNK IT OUT THIS TIME IN THE TWO SECTIONS, WE WOULD HAVE TO REDO THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS TO ACQUIRE MORE LAND THAN HAVE IT REAPPRAISED. I MEAN, YOU ONLY BUY AN EIGHT FOOT SWATH.
IS THAT? WELL, IT'S IT'S AN EASEMENT IN ORDER TO INSTALL THE PATH.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LEGALS.
I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT MY GUT TELLS ME WE WOULD HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH AGAIN. AND WE LOOKED AT I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT I MEAN IT'S PRETTY NOTHING.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
OKAY I'LL GO BACK TO THE QUESTION I THIS RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND I'D LIKE TO APPEAL THAT IT BE APPROVED.
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YEAH. CALL THE QUESTION.RESOLUTION CR 3625. MR. SMITH HAS SPOKEN TO IT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, I WOULD SAY THIS RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND I MOVE THAT IT BE APPROVED. SECOND.
BARRY. YES. YES. YES. ANDERSON.
YES. MY LAST RESOLUTION IS CR 3725.
[Resolution CR-37-25 Intent to Appropriate Property and Easements for Improvements to North Meadows Drive and the Southwest Area Overpass Project and related improvements for the public purpose of making or repairing a public road to be open to the public at no charge. ]
INTENT TO APPROPRIATE PROPERTY AND EASEMENTS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO NORTH MEADOWS DRIVE AND THE SOUTHWEST AREA OVERPASS PROJECT, AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF MAKING OR REPAIRING A PUBLIC ROAD TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT NO CHARGE.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH. MR.. DO. IF I MAY.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST STEP IN POTENTIALLY GETTING THE BRIDGE OVER 71.
IT WOULD BE THE INSTALLATION OF THAT ROUNDABOUT AND THEN KIND OF THE LEGS YOU SEE GOING OFF OF IT. THERE'S REALLY THREE PROPERTY OWNERS INVOLVED.
I KNOW IT SAYS, WELL, THE CITY OF GROVE CITY IS ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, SO I THINK WE'LL SETTLE WITH THEM PRETTY EASILY. THE OTHER THREE, I'VE HAD GOOD DISCUSSIONS WITH MOUNT CARMEL.
I MET WITH BUCKEYE RANCH IN PERSON.
WE'VE HAD GOOD DISCUSSIONS WITH GATEWAY BUSINESS PARK, WHICH IS THE EXETER WAREHOUSE THERE.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE NOT MOST PROBLEMATIC, BUT THEY HAVE SOME TRUCK ISSUES.
WE HAVE TO THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
BUT ALL THIS DOES IS START THE PROCESS.
WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN EACH OF THESE THREE ENTITIES OUR APPRAISAL NUMBER.
WE'VE ALREADY SAT DOWN WITH THEM.
SO THIS WOULD ENABLE US TO START THE PROCESS WITH THE GOOD FAITH OFFER LETTER.
AND THEN IF WE'RE UNABLE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT, WHICH I THINK WE WILL, THEN WE'D BE ABLE TO FILE SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN WORK ON THIS. THIS IS A ROADWAY.
SO THE MOMENT WE FILE ON THESE WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BUILD THIS PROJECT.
AND THIS ONE WE KIND OF HAVE A TIME CRUNCH JUST BASED ON THE BIDDING SCHEDULE WE HAVE FOR THIS PROJECT. WHICH IS WHY EVEN THOUGH I THINK WE'RE GETTING THEM ALL RESOLVED, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO HAVE IT IN PLACE JUST IN CASE WE DON'T.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? HAVING SEEN NONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MOVE THAT IT BE APPROVED.
I HEARD TWO HOUK. YES YES YES YES.
YES. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MADAM PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU. MISTER. DO. THAT BRINGS US TO FINANCE WITH MR.
[Ordinance C-34-25 Appropriate $75,000.00 from the General Fund for the Current Expense of the southwestern City School District Adult HUB Training Program. Second reading and public hearing. ]
HOLT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.ORDINANCE C 3425. APPROPRIATE.
75,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE CURRENT EXPENSE OF THE SOUTH-WESTERN CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT ADULT HUB TRAINING PROGRAM.
I DO HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP FOR THAT.
CHRISTINE. THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
THANK YOU. I'M CHRISTINE GALVIN, AND I.
MY ADDRESS IS 3805 MARLENE DRIVE IN GROVE CITY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS EVENING.
MY NAME IS CHRISTINE GALVIN, AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS THE DIRECTOR OF CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION FOR SOUTH-WESTERN CITY SCHOOLS.
I WANTED TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND REALLY THANK THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR PAST SUPPORT OF OUR ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAM.
YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR ADULT HOPE PROGRAM HAS ALLOWED US TO ASSIST IN CREATING A TALENT PIPELINE FOR GROVE CITY BUSINESS COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING UNEMPLOYED AND UNDEREMPLOYED ADULTS IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH SKILLS AND STATE RECOGNIZED INDUSTRY CREDENTIALS NEEDED TO OBTAIN LIVING WAGE, IN-DEMAND CAREERS.
IT HELPS TO IMPROVE OUR HOUSEHOLD ECONOMIC STABILITY, GENERATING ADDITIONAL INCOME TAX FOR OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ATTRACTING ECONOMIC INVESTMENT. SEVERAL OF OUR GROVE CITY BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY PARTNERS, SUCH AS HORTON EMERGENCY VEHICLES, MEADOW GROVE, STORYPOINT AND APTALIS HAVE HIRED OUR GRADUATES.
SO THAT PIPELINE REALLY IS WORKING.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL OTHER COMPANIES THAT WORK WITHIN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY THAT HIRE OUR GRADUATES AS WELL, SUCH AS JAY-Z DIRECT LINE, GLOBAL E2, OPTICS AND SPECTRUM.
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LAST YEAR, WE HAD 129 GRADUATES SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE OUR COURSES AND EARN STATE RECOGNIZED INDUSTRY CERTIFICATIONS.SO HISTORICALLY, OUR ADULT HUB PROGRAM HAS BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE CITY OF GROVE CITY'S ALLOCATED FUNDING, A STATE OF OHIO EARMARK CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP AND GRANT FUNDING.
THIS YEAR, REPRESENTATIVE SIEGRIST DID AN AMAZING JOB OF ADVOCATING FOR STATE FUNDING FOR US. BUT DUE TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CUTS THAT HAPPEN WITH THE STATE BUDGET THIS YEAR, OUR EARMARK WAS NOT INCLUDED.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE APPROACHING THE COUNCIL, TO SEE IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO OFFER SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WOULD BE USED TO CONTINUE OUR ADULT HUB PROGRAMING.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND A LOT OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR, WE DO OFFER STATE RECOGNIZED INDUSTRY CREDENTIALS, AND A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE ARE REALLY THE UNDEREMPLOYED.
SO THEY JUST NEED THAT SKILL AND THAT CREDENTIAL TO REALLY GET THAT NEXT STEP EMPLOYMENT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE BENEFITS AND HAVE THAT LIFE SUSTAINING LIVING WAGE JOB. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INVITE ANY OF YOU TO COME AND VISIT OUR PROGRAM, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME AND TAKE A TOUR. I'M ALSO HAPPY TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW WE'RE USING YOUR FUNDING.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO SUBMIT REPORTS THAT OUTLINE WHAT WE'RE SPENDING YOUR FUNDING ON, AND I'M HAPPY TO COME AND PROVIDE IN-PERSON UPDATES AS WELL.
JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE REALLY ARE USING YOUR FUNDING TO HELP BUILD THAT PIPELINE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PAST FUNDING SUPPORT THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, AND I'M JUST HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
THAT'S WHY I CAME HERE THIS EVENING.
BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND OUR ADULT HUB.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I HAVE A QUESTION. THANK YOU.
I AM CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH IS THE AMOUNT THAT WAS EARMARKED INTO THE STATE BUDGET THAT DIDN'T GET. YEAH. SO IN THE PAST, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD 125,000 A YEAR THAT HAS BEEN EARMARKED FOR US FOR EVERY YEAR OF THE STATE BUDGET.
SO THAT WAS A QUITE SUBSTANTIAL CUT THAT WE TOOK.
BY NOT RECEIVING THAT FUNDING.
THANK YOU. IF I COULD, MR. HOLT. YES. FIRST WE HAVE A GIFT WITH YOU.
THANK YOU. GIFT TO THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT THE REQUEST WAS FOR THIS YEAR ACTUALLY WAS FOR.
FOR THE BIENNIAL BUDGET, 150 PER YEAR, WHICH.
SO THE REQUEST WAS REALLY $300,000.
AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS STEPPING UP TO 75.
BUT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM.
PHENOMENAL PROGRAM. AND AS YOU MENTIONED, ONE OF THE THINGS AS A BYPRODUCT OF IT ARE THE CURRENT COMPANIES HERE WHO ARE ABLE TO GARNER THEIR THEIR STUDENTS AND BE ABLE TO MAKE THEM MORE SUCCESSFUL.
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR THE FACILITY AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS YOU OFFER, AND I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED FROM THE HVAC, WHICH IS, I THINK, A RELATIVELY NEW ONE.
I'M GLAD THAT A LOT OF OUR BUSINESSES, LOCAL BUSINESSES IN GROVE CITY, ARE USING THE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY GRADUATE AND GET THOSE CERTIFICATES.
SO JUST KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IF YOU LOST A FUNDING FROM THE STATE? ARE WE GOING TO BE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS ANNUALLY AND AS COSTS CONTINUE TO RISE, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. SO WE'RE ALWAYS PURSUING ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE STATE IS THERE WILL BE SOME WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT GRANTS AND FUNDING THAT ARE COMING THROUGH.
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THIS YEAR'S STATE BUDGET.
BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, POLITICAL PARTIES CHANGE, WINDS CHANGE. BUT WE ALSO LOOK FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON OTHER AVENUES TO SECURE ONGOING FUNDING.
SO WE'RE NOT ALWAYS DEPENDENT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH STATE BUDGETS.
ONE MORE QUESTION TO YOU. AND IF I'M MISTAKEN, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. BUT YOU SAID THE STATE, THE CITY, AND THEN THERE WERE BUSINESS PARTNERS. YOU HAVE BUSINESS PARTNERS ON BOARD NOW, IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY RECEIVE FROM THE CITY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO KIND OF HELP OFFSET THAT MISSING AMOUNT.
SO IF THE 75,000 COMES FROM THE CITY OF GROVE CITY, WE'RE APPROACHING BUSINESS PARTNERS RIGHT NOW, MAKING THOSE REQUESTS TO GET THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, TED? SO FIRST OF ALL, YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND EVERYTHING.
AND I REALLY I'M REALLY VERY MUCH BEHIND WHAT YOU DO AND EVERYTHING FROM OUR SKILLED TRADES. GRANT TO EVERYTHING THE, THE ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PROBABLY HELP RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOUTH-WESTERN CITY SCHOOLS IS PART OF A LARGER AREA THAN JUST GROVE
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CITY. SO AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR TAX DOLLARS IN GROVE CITY ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. AND WE DO THIS WITH OTHER ENTITIES. I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T, BUT WHAT HAVE YOU APPROACHED COLUMBUS AT ALL TO GET ANY TYPE OF MONEY AND WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU? SO WE HAVE WE'VE WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING WITH THE FRANKLIN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.SO WE HAVE APPROACHED THE FRANKLIN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
SO WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
IT JUST MOVES MORE SLOWLY BECAUSE THEY ARE LARGER ENTITIES.
SO WE ARE APPROACHING ALL OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE SERVE A LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN JUST THE CITY OF GROVE CITY. YEAH.
THE THE ONE THING THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WE CARE ABOUT OUR BUSINESSES HERE.
AND YOU HAVE HELPED OUT OUR BUSINESSES AND EVERYTHING.
AND OF COURSE, YOU'VE HELPED OUT OUR POPULATION, WHICH IS OUR LABOR FORCE AND EVERYTHING. I JUST WORRY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT THE CITY OF GROVE CITY FOOTING THE BILL FOR THE ENTIRE AREA AND NOT HAVING PARTNERS OUTSIDE OF IT.
SO I MEAN, HAVING HAVING COMPANIES CONTRIBUTE, HAVING TOWNSHIP LIKE JACKSON TOWNSHIP.
PRAIRIE TOWNSHIP, I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T STOP WITH US.
I MEAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE UP A HECK OF A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT YOU WERE GETTING BEFORE.
SO YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF WORK, AND I KNOW IT'S HARD WORK TO DO IT, BUT I KNOW YOU CAN. THOSE ARE VERY FAIR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.
AND WE ARE DEFINITELY APPROACHING ALL DIFFERENT ENTITIES FOR FUNDING SOURCES.
SO AND TO REPRESENTATIVE WILSON'S POINT, IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO THINK ABOUT THE CONTINUITY OF THAT FUNDING.
SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE AND WE'RE NOT SO HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON STATE FUNDING.
YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD ALWAYS GO BACK COUNCIL TO THE LIBRARY.
WE DECIDED, WHAT, TEN YEARS AGO THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A PIVOTAL IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO WE HELPED BUILD THE LIBRARY, AND. AND THEY'RE PAYING US BACK OVER TIME AND EVERYTHING.
SO THIS IS JUST A ONE ANOTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL THAT IS IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. BUT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. AND I'M SORRY YOU HAD THE THE THE CHANGE.
BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRISTINE.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, VERY FORTUNATELY, YOUR REPUTATION PRECEDES YOU.
SO I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU WILL LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED IN LOOKING FOR THE FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT WILL KEEP THIS ALL GOING.
A BROADER LOOK THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US THIS EVENING IN THIS ORDINANCE.
BUT I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CAREFUL AND THOUGHTFUL AND DETAILED ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU PROVIDED FOR US AND FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
AND REALLY WAS REFLECTING TODAY ON YOU KNOW, THAT WHICH CANNOT BE QUANTIFIED, WHICH IS YOU KNOW, THAT MISALIGNMENT THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THE WORKFORCE AND THE POTENTIAL JOBS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, AND THE JOB THAT MIGHT REALLY CHANGE THE LIFE OF A FAMILY AND THE RIPPLE EFFECT THAT THAT HAS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO REALLY, I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD FOR US TO GAUGE THE OVERALL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THIS $75,000 GRANT FROM THE CITY OF GROVE CITY.
SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE AND FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING.
AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS AS A MEMBER OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALL BE TALKING ABOUT. BUT JUST WANTED TO AGAIN APPLAUD EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU.
FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRISTINE, AND THANKS FOR SERVING ON THE HIGHER EDUCATION SCHOLARSHIP COMMITTEE.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING CHRISTINE DOES.
THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MOVE IT BE APPROVED.
YES. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED ON THE AGENDA
[Resolution CR-38-25 Supporting the Expenditure in an amount not to exceed $4,500,000.00 to support the Broadway Live Project. ]
IS KR 3825, SUPPORTING THE EXPENDITURE FOR BROADWAY LIVE.AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL ON STEVEN TO MAKE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND.
WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION BEHIND CLOSED DOORS FOR SUCH MATTERS AS LAND ACQUISITION. SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MAYBE 10 OR 15 MINUTES IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, CHUCK BOSO, MAYOR STAGE AND MIKE TURNER.
AND THERE WE GO. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I DON'T ACTUALLY GET TO MAKE MOTIONS I CAN JUST GIVE YOU SUGGESTED LANGUAGE.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER OHIO REVISED CODE, SECTION 120 1.2 2G2 TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC
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PURPOSES. THAT SOUNDS GOOD, MR. SMITH. SECOND. SO MOVED.BURROWS, YOU CAN VOTE ON THIS.
YOU JUST CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? YES. ANDERSON.
YES. HOLT. YES. AND BEFORE WE DO THAT.
MR.. YEAH. IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY.
MISS BURROWS IS NOT GOING TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE HAVE, AS I'VE TOLD THIS AUDIENCE BEFORE, WE HAVE RECEIVED AN ETHICS OPINION.
SHE OBVIOUSLY OWNS A BUSINESS THAT'S DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS.
SO UNDER OHIO ETHICS LAW, SHE'S PROHIBITED FROM TAKING PART IN THIS.
SO BUT JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT.
SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO EXIT THE ROOM AND AND WE NEED TO INVITE KYLE RAO ALSO.
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO EXIT THE ROOM, BUT BE PATIENT.
WE NEED TO CLARIFY A FEW ITEMS AND WE'LL BE BACK TO FINISH THE AGENDA.
THANK YOU. FOR YOU CARE, THAT'S WHY.
I MAKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE GROVE CITY COUNCIL.
HE'S IN A SOUNDPROOF, ISOLATED ROOM.
SHE CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING. OKAY.
RESOLUTION. SEE 3825. SUPPORTING THE EXPENDITURE AND AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 4.5 MILLION. TO SUPPORT THE BROADWAY LIVE PROJECT.
WITH THAT, I HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO TALK HERE.
SO ETHAN OR TIM, WHICHEVER ONE WANTS TO GO FIRST.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR. HOLT. MY NAME IS ETHAN TYMIANKA.
OUR ADDRESS IS 159 EAST LIVINGSTON AVENUE.
SO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING US TO ADDRESS YOU REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION. AND THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR TAKING THE BOLD STEP OF PROPOSING A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TOWARDS THE TOWN CENTER AND EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT, ALLOWING THE COUNCIL TO EXPRESS THEIR LEVEL OF SUPPORT FOR BROADWAY LIVE AND THE TOWN CENTER AS A WHOLE IN A PUBLIC FORUM SUCH AS TONIGHT. THEREFORE, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE CLEAR THAT THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT OUTLINED IN THIS RESOLUTION WOULD NOT EFFECTIVELY BRING BROADWAY LIVE, AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, TO LIFE. AS MANY ON COUNCIL AND WITHIN THE GROVE CITY COMMUNITY KNOW.
WE FIRST BROUGHT THE PROJECT KNOWN AS BROADWAY LIVE, THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL IN 2022, WITH ONE FUNDAMENTAL REQUEST FROM THE CITY TO HELP PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRED TO DELIVER A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE AND SCALE WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER.
SPECIFICALLY, THAT REQUEST MEANT PROVIDING PARKING FOR THE PROPOSED FOOD HALL AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WHILE FACILITATING THE UTILITY, ROADWAY AND SITE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
IF COUNCIL RECALLS THAT PLAN PROVIDED NO PARKING FOR BROADWAY LIVE AND A MUCH DENSER SITE SINCE THEN, ACXIOM HAS CHANGED THE SCALE AND NATURE OF BROADWAY LIVE AS WE SOUGHT TO ALIGN THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT AND NEEDS OF BOTH THE CITY AND THE PROJECT, CULMINATING IN THE UPDATED PLAN PASSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR. THIS PLAN SOUGHT A SOLUTION TO THE TOWN CENTER'S CURRENT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, FUTURE PARKING NEEDS, A SOLUTION THAT IS CONTINGENT ON AN INVESTMENT BY THE CITY FOR BOTH THE PARKING AND SITE DEVELOPMENT COSTS THAT THE PROJECT CANNOT SUPPORT. WE HAVE PROPOSED A FRAMEWORK WHEREBY THE CITY ACQUIRES 2.6 ACRES OF OUR PROPERTY TO INSTALL APPROXIMATELY 150 PARKING SPACES, AND CREATES AN ACRE OF USABLE PUBLIC GREEN SPACE AT A PER ACRE PRICE THAT ALIGNS WITH RECENT TOWN CENTER ACQUISITIONS ALREADY MADE BY THE CITY.
THIS IS A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY FOR GROVE CITY.
THAT SAID, $4.5 MILLION FOR LAND ACQUISITION OF THIS MAGNITUDE AND THE CREATION OF A LARGE PUBLIC PARKING LOT IS SIMPLY INSUFFICIENT.
WE HAVE OFFERED THE 2.6 CONTIGUOUS ACRES FOR $5 MILLION.
IT WOULD BE ROUGHLY ANOTHER 1.5 MILLION TO FINISH THE PARKING LOT, PLUS ANOTHER 1 TO 1.5 MILLION OR SO TO DO MINOR IMPROVEMENTS ALONG CLEVELAND AVENUE, INCLUDING POSSIBLE ARTWORK, ARCHWAYS AND OR OTHER SIGNAGE.
THEREFORE, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL, IN CONSIDERING THIS RESOLUTION,
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INCREASE THE LIMIT OF THE NONBINDING FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TO THE TOWN CENTER TO $8 MILLION. OTHERWISE, BROADWAY LIVE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD, AND WE WOULD MOST LIKELY PIVOT TOWARDS A MORE TRADITIONAL, RESIDENTIAL FOCUSED DEVELOPMENT.UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS NOT A SMALL INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENT TAXPAYERS, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE CITY FROM THIS PROJECT. OUR ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY ESTIMATES ROUGHLY $600,000 OF ADDITIONAL CITY TAX REVENUE IN THE FIRST YEAR, AND NEARLY $300,000 PER YEAR THEREAFTER, AND GROWING. THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE COUNTLESS OTHER BENEFITS THAT COME WITH A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE NEEDS OUTLINED IN THE TOWN CENTER CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND THE MANY RESPONSES FROM THE CITY'S OWN SURVEYS OF RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS.
ALSO, I WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO MENTION THAT SEVERAL OTHER SIMILAR SIZED CITIES IN CENTRAL OHIO ARE INVESTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THEIR OWN TOWN CENTERS.
IN FACT, GAHANNA ANNOUNCED $20 MILLION INVESTED INTO THEIR TOWN CENTER AS OF TODAY.
SO WE FEEL THAT THIS IS A VERY REASONABLE AMOUNT FOR GROVE CITY TO INVEST IN THEIRS, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT IT INCLUDES SUCH A LARGE, ONCE IN A GENERATION ACQUISITION THAT WILL SERVE THE PARKING NEEDS OF THE TOWN CENTER FOR THE NEXT 50 PLUS YEARS.
WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER AND ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU.
OKAY. THANKS, ETHAN. TIM, DO YOU WANT TO GO NOW OR ARE YOU JUST THERE FOR QUESTIONS OR JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OKAY. WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS.
FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU WANT US TO AMEND THIS TO 8 MILLION INSTEAD OF 4.5.
IS THAT YOUR REQUEST? WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, AS THIS IS A NON-BINDING RESOLUTION.
AND IT WOULD ALLOW US TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE COUNCIL TO GET SOMETHING DONE. OTHERWISE, IF IT'S PASSED AS IS, WE WOULD LIKELY COMPLETELY CHANGE OUR PLAN.
OKAY. QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM OTHERS.
TED. COULD WE. CHUCK, CAN WE HEAR HOW YOU GOT TO THIS NUMBER? THANK YOU. WELL, AGAIN THIS PROJECT WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING FOR APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS. AND THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU FOR YOUR ALREADY YOUR INVESTMENT IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY. WHAT WHAT WE DID IN TERMS OF THE ADMINISTRATION, IN TRYING TO MAKE THIS DEAL WORK, WE HAD THE LAND APPRAISED, WHICH WHICH THEY MENTIONED.
OUR APPRAISAL AMOUNT WAS $1,351,000.
THAT APPRAISED AMOUNT MOUNT IS FOR LAND THAT IS, AS THEY SAY, RECREATIONAL.
IT'S NOT DEVELOPABLE. IT'S IN A FLOOD WAY.
TAMMY, IS IT POSSIBLE TO THROW UP THAT PDF THAT I HAD SENT OVER BEFORE, BY THE WAY? THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
MY APOLOGIES. I HAD IT IN HERE SINCE THE FLOOD AND I HAD TO MAKE CHANGES TODAY.
AND NOW IT'S NOT SHOWING UP, AND AND I CAN'T.
WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? WHAT WAS THE NAME OF IT? BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING IN THIS FILE TO TRY TO BRING IT UP.
AGAIN? WELL, YOU CAN KEEP TALKING.
I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, CHUCK.
SURE. NO PROBLEM. I JUST OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE, OBVIOUSLY, THE PARTICULAR 1.4 ACRES APPRAISED AT $141,000.
THE OTHER 1.2 ACRES, WHICH WAS SPOKEN ABOUT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC PARKING APPRAISED AT $1 MILLION AN ACRE. THE TOTAL APPRAISED AMOUNT WAS $1.3 MILLION, WHICH WE OFFERED THEM.
AND THEN THE THE CITY WOULD GUARANTEE THE CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC PARKING FOR ABOUT 125 SPACES. WE ESTIMATE THAT COST AT APPROXIMATELY 2.9 MILLION.
I THINK THEY ESTIMATED AT 1.51.5, WHICH IS CERTAINLY A DIFFERENCE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IF, I MEAN, WE WE USE CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT ARE CURRENT IN TERMS OF, OF PUBLIC PREVAILING WAGES.
SO AGAIN, ANOTHER ASPECT WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS PROJECT, AND LOOKING AT IT FROM A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS THE CERTAINLY THE PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND ALSO THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT.
THIS LAND ALSO HAS A 15 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT.
AND USING THEIR NUMBERS, THE ABATEMENT ON THIS PROPERTY, THE 15 YEARS AMOUNTS TO $21 MILLION.
SO THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN THIS PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY $25.5 MILLION.
WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS A FAIR DEAL.
AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S DIFFICULT TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT IN PUBLIC LIKE THIS, BUT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IT IN PUBLIC. BUT I'M FORTUNATE.
I THINK WE'RE ALL FORTUNATE THAT IT'S IN THE PUBLIC REALM NOW THAT WE ALL CAN HEAR, HEAR THE NUMBERS. AND AGAIN, WE TRIED TO PUT A DEAL TOGETHER, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS IS CORRECT FOR THE CITY AND FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR PRESENT
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FINANCIAL SITUATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MENTION, I KNOW I MENTIONED IN WHAT I SAID EARLIER, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE PURCHASES BY THE CITY AT THIS SAME PRICE PER ACRE.
SO JUST AGAIN, THIS IS A STRATEGIC PURCHASE IN YOUR OWN TOWN CENTER OF 2.6 CONTIGUOUS ACRES AT A PRICE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MET BY THIS ADMINISTRATION IN PRIOR PURCHASES PER ACRE. SO AND I MIGHT MENTION THAT THOSE PARCELS WEREN'T IN FLOOD WAYS, AND PLUS THEY HAD STRUCTURES ON THEM THAT WE HAD TO BUY.
THEY JUST DIDN'T GIVE US THE STRUCTURES WHEN WE DID.
COLUMBUS STREET, THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
SO THAT NUMBER MAY BE CORRECT PER ACRES, BUT THERE WAS ADDITIONAL ASSETS ON THAT PROPERTY. YEAH. THANK YOU.
IF THERE'S MORE CLARITY ON THAT, BECAUSE I, I THINK IT IS DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT INFORMATION FORTH WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTUAL INFORMATION BEHIND IT. FOR THE REST OF THE PUBLIC TO HEAR AND MYSELF INCLUDED.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF THERE REALLY IS OTHER YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE PURCHASES WERE I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THAT AS AN ATTACHMENT.
I'M SORRY. WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE PRIOR PURCHASES, BUT THEY WERE ANYWHERE FROM LIKE 1.8 TO $2.5 MILLION PER ACRE.
WE'RE ASKING ABOUT 1.9 FOR OURS.
SOME OF THOSE PURCHASES ALSO INCLUDED, LIKE CHUCK MENTIONED, A BUILDING THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY.
SO THAT'S ADDITIONAL COSTS AS PART OF PART OF THIS OFFER THAT WE'VE OFFERED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN HERE.
SO WHEN THIS LAND WAS ACTUALLY APPRAISED BY THE CITY, IT WAS PRIOR TO THE FLOODWAY WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN HERE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY TELL THAT THE PRIOR PLAN ONLY INCLUDED ABOUT 125 PARKING SPACES.
AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE, NORTH OF THAT BUILDING FOOTPRINT, THERE'S ABOUT 30FT ADDITIONAL OF LAND THAT WE ARE NOW ACTUALLY ABLE TO USE IF APPROVED BY THE CITY. OF COURSE, WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON THEIR FROM THEIR ENGINEERS, BUT THAT ACTUALLY MAKES A LOT MORE OF THIS LAND USABLE.
THE OTHER LAND THAT IS IN THE FLOODWAY THAT MR. BOZZO MENTIONED IS USABLE PUBLIC GREEN SPACE. SO AS A CITY. YEAH.
YOU KNOW, AS A DEVELOPER, MAYBE THAT YOU CAN'T BUILD A BUILDING ON THAT. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU CAN USE IT AS PUBLIC GREEN SPACE. SO I THINK AS A PUBLIC ENTITY THAT'S VERY USEFUL.
MAYBE THE ADMINISTRATION SEES IT DIFFERENTLY. I THINK THAT'S A VERY USEFUL USE OF LAND.
IT ALSO INCLUDES, LIKE I SAID, THE 150 PARKING SPACES, BUT ALSO THE ADDITIONAL 30FT OF BUILDABLE LAND THAT COULD EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO WHITE PLACE TO THE WEST. ALSO SPEAKING TO THE BIKE PATH AND THE BIKE TASK FORCE EARLIER, THIS COULD ALSO EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO BRECK PLACE.
I BELIEVE IT IS TO THE NORTH, WHERE THERE'S A BIKE PATH THAT THE CITY HAD MENTIONED POTENTIALLY CONNECTING TO IN THE FUTURE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF USE FOR THIS LAND. WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON ENGINEERING AND FLOODWAY WORK, AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S VERY VIABLE.
SO AGAIN, ALSO, WE'VE ALSO OFFERED TO COMPLETELY GRADE THIS SO THAT ALL THE COMPENSATORY STORAGE, ALL THE GRADING IS ALL COMPLETELY DONE AT TIME OF PURCHASE. AND I GUESS JUST TO RESPOND TO THE REQUEST OF THE AMENDMENT, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS NONBINDING, I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T WANT TO SET THE CAP OF CITY INVESTMENT ARTIFICIALLY LOW, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW IT ACTUALLY GETS DONE. SO FOR US, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE LIKE A REALISTIC FRAMEWORK. BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GETTING MUCH CLOSER.
AND SO FROM MY STANDPOINT OR OUR STANDPOINT, IT'S THIS RESOLUTION JUST ALLOWS US TO HAVE THE CAP AND THE FRAMEWORK TO WORK TOWARDS SO THAT NOTHING IS ABOVE THAT CAP.
AND IF YOU SET IT HERE AND WE DON'T BELIEVE IT CAN WORK, THEN WE WILL CHANGE THE PROJECT EFFECTIVELY KILLING THE DEAL.
BUT IF IT HAS AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, WE CAN WORK WITH THAT.
KYLE, I JUST WANT TO IF WE LOOK FORWARD AND LET'S SAY WE DID APPROVE THIS AT FOUR AND A HALF OR EIGHT OR WHATEVER.
WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP FOR AXIOM? WHAT? WHAT'S THE NEXT HURDLE? THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROCESSES WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
I BELIEVE THEY MENTIONED THERE'S A FLOOD PERMIT UNDER REVIEW RIGHT NOW BY THE BUILDING DIVISION. THE PLANS ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK REFLECT THOSE PLANS ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING IN CONCURRENT FLOOD STUDY REPORT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT REZONING TRAFFIC STUDY THE STANDARD DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESSES.
SO THERE'S 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT PROCESSES WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE SAME TIME. PROBABLY THE MOST LENGTHY ONE WOULD BE THE REZONING ASPECT OF IT, WHICH WILL ENTAIL THE TRAFFIC.
IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT THREE MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND THEN A REAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. CORRECT? CORRECT. I'M ASSUMING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL BE CONCURRENT WITH REZONING.
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IF NOT, WILL FOLLOW IT.SO IT IS ALSO ABOUT THREE MONTHS AWAY AT BEST CASE SCENARIO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KYLE? THANKS, KYLE. CHAIR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
NOT THAT THESE WOULD BE MY FINAL COMMENTS.
I DO THINK THAT WE ARE GETTING AT LEAST TO A GOOD SPOT BRINGING FORTH PUBLIC DOLLARS TOWARDS THIS. I THINK THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT DOES GET NETTED WITH THE 15 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT.
SO I KNOW THAT YOU DID COME FORTH AND STATE THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT THE CITY HAS PAID OTHER OR THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THAT YOU ARE ASKING.
HOWEVER, AGAIN, AS MR. BOZO STATED, THERE WERE DIFFERENT CLARIFICATIONS OR QUALITIES OF THOSE PROPERTIES VERSUS FLOODPLAINS VERSUS BUILDINGS.
I ALSO DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THERE WERE TAX ABATEMENTS OR NOT ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SOME PRETTY IMPORTANT DETAILS, BECAUSE IF WE ARE WANTING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S APPLES TO APPLES, DID THEY GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF A TAX ABATEMENT? AGAIN, I THINK AS MR. HOLT BROUGHT FORTH $21 MILLION, PLUS THE $4.5 MILLION IS $25 MILLION OF OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORTH TO THIS PROJECT. AND AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS AND COMPETING PRIORITIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS TIME FRAME.
WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT A LARGE RECREATIONAL COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING ALONG WITH AND HAVE HEARD. THERE ARE OTHER PARKS AND, AND CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN ABOUT OUR TOWN CENTER AND, AND PUBLIC RESTROOMS AND IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
SO I CAN CERTAINLY GET BEHIND THIS, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT HOW THE OTHER COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT AN AMENDMENT FOR 8 MILLION.
BUT I THINK IT IS ALSO ON THE SAME NOTE, INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR THAT THIS COULD TURN INTO JUST RESIDENTIAL WHEN THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL FOR THIS 15 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT IN FRONT OF YOU.
IT'S BEEN VERY EXCITING THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORTH.
IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE PROMISE TO OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF BROADWAY LIVE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT DOWN IN OUR AREA, AND THAT IS WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR.
AND I DO THINK THAT WE ARE, AS A COUNCIL, WORKING TO TRY AND BRING FORTH SOMETHING TO THE PROJECT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS MAYBE IT'S NOT ENOUGH, BUT AGAIN, IT'S AN INCREDIBLE DISAPPOINTMENT TO HEAR THAT IT COULD TURN JUST TO RESIDENTIAL AND NOT BE THE PROMISE OF THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THAT WAS ONCE BROUGHT FORTH TO US. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
I'M SURE THERE MIGHT BE OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I WILL COME UP WITH.
EVAN. ETHAN AS IF THIS WAS YOUR RESUME, CAN YOU NAME ANY OTHER PROJECTS YOU'VE COMPLETED THIS SIZE? NO, SIR.
IT APPEARS TO ME THAT YOU ARE UNDERCAPITALIZED WITH ALL THESE OPPORTUNITIES HERE FOR PUBLIC FUNDING, WHICH IS FINE.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN OUR BALANCE SHEET. THAT'S TRUE. SO IT'S NOT ACCURATE, BUT WE'RE NOT THE BANK FOR THESE GUYS.
I MEAN, WE'RE ASKING FOR TEN, 15% DOWN PAYMENT ON YOUR PROJECT FROM THE CITY AND PUBLIC MONIES.
AND I'LL REMIND YOU THAT WHILE THE TAX ABATEMENT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT HURTS ANYBODY, IT TAKES $12 MILLION AWAY FROM THE SOUTH-WESTERN CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH WE JUST HEARD IN HERE.
THAT ALREADY IS IN DIRE NEED FOR A WHOLE NOTHER REASON.
SO THE TAX ABATEMENT IS A BIG DEAL, AND WE CONSIDER THAT PUBLIC MONIES AT THIS POINT, ALONG WITH OUR FOUR AND A HALF OR $8 MILLION.
OKAY. THANKS. SO I WILL ENTERTAIN AN AMENDMENT TO RESOLUTION KR 3825, RAISING THE 4.5 MILLION TO AN $8 MILLION NUMBER.
OR WAS THAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN? I'LL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND TO $8 MILLION.
MISS ANDERSON, ARE WE GOING TO? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE WE VOTE?
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THIS IS JUST ON THE AMENDMENT.RIGHT NOW WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT, NOT THE RESOLUTION AT THIS POINT.
GOTCHA. SHE'S ASKING IF THERE'S DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE 2.8 MILLION.
OKAY. YES. ARE WE BEGINNING THE VOTE? I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE. WERE YOU ASKED IF THERE WAS DISCUSSION, SO I DIDN'T.
OKAY. SO THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO AMEND CR 3828 TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT FROM 4.2 MILLION TO 8 MILLION, 4.5 TO 8 MILLION.
ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS OR RESOLUTIONS OR AMENDMENTS BEFORE I CALL FOR A VOTE? MR. BARRY. I MEAN, THIS PROJECT.
I MEAN, I'VE ALWAYS I LIKE THE PROJECT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S ONE THING THAT HAS ME CONCERNED, AND I'M.
AND, YOU KNOW, IS OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL FOOTING RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE BALANCE SHEETS AND EVERYTHING OF, OF THE, OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING INTO THE CITY AND EVERYTHING, AND I JUST, I MEAN, IF WE IF, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A HIGHER NUMBER, WE'RE OTHER THINGS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE CUT.
THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE REALITY OF IT.
I MEAN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET DONE. THERE'S DOES THIS AFFECT THE REC CENTER? I DON'T KNOW. I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF IFS AND THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
SO THIS I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THIS IS A HARD, VERY, VERY HARD ONE FOR ME BECAUSE OF THAT.
BECAUSE IT'S. YEAH, I MEAN, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE PROJECT AND EVERYTHING, BUT THE PRICE TAG IS HUGE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CHRISTINE, I'LL TAKE A CRACK AT THIS.
THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS UNWIELDY.
THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT EXPLAINS TO ALL OF YOU IN THE ROOM WHY WE WENT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I FEEL LIKE THE DESIRE IS 100% HERE TO SEE THIS TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT IN OUR TOWN CENTER.
IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF WORKING OUT THE FINANCIAL PICTURE THAT ALLOWS IT TO COME TO FRUITION. AND THE TROUBLING PART OF THIS, FOR ME IS REALLY THAT WE HAD A RESOLUTION YOU KNOW, AND AND AGAIN, A RESOLUTION IS, IS NOT A BINDING ACTIVITY.
IF IT WAS AN ORDINANCE, IF WE WERE APPROPRIATING DOLLARS, WE COULD REALLY TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.
THIS IS REALLY JUST SAYING AND I AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE GET THE SUPPORT OF GETTING TO THIS $8 MILLION NUMBER.
YOU KNOW, I'M AN ACCOUNTANT AND MY DAY JOB, SO I'M LIKE, HOW ABOUT WE SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE? I'M NOT REALLY ALL THE WAY TO EIGHT, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US $8 MILLION.
BUT IT IS IT IS AGAIN A RESOLUTION.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE EVALUATING IS WHAT IS COUNCIL'S AMBITION AS TO WHETHER WE KEEP PUSHING TO COME INTO ALIGNMENT ON HOW TO MAKE THIS PROJECT A REALITY? AND AND AGAIN TO MR. BARRY'S POINT AND, AND THIS WAS WHAT MY IMPULSE AS SOON AS I SAW THE RESOLUTION IS THAT THIS PROJECT DOESN'T EXIST IN A VACUUM.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE WE HAVE A MILLION COMPETING INTERESTS, SO MANY THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET ACCOMPLISHED.
AND AND WE REALLY DON'T, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, HAVE OUR HEADS AROUND WHAT ALL OF WHAT YOU KNOW, THE MAGNITUDE OF THOSE INVESTMENTS LOOK LIKE.
AND I CAN IMAGINE FROM YOUR SEAT THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'VE RUN THE NUMBERS AND YOU'VE SEEN DOLLARS THAT WERE GIVEN FOR FOR PARCELS AND PIECES OF PARCELS. BUT I WILL SAY THAT THEY'VE ALL BEEN SUPPORTED BY THE APPRAISAL.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR DECISION MAKING SEAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT DOES THE APPRAISAL TELL US ABOUT VALUATION? YOU KNOW, FROM BECAUSE I FROM, FROM DAY ONE THOUGHT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT COULD REALLY CHANGE THE FACE OF OUR TOWN CENTER.
SORRY TO SEE THE NUMBER NOT COMING IN TO TO BE WHAT I KNOW THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT THAT IS STILL, WE'RE PLAYING WITH FACTS AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, TRYING TO ASSEMBLE A PATH FORWARD BASED ON THE FACTS THAT WE KNOW TODAY.
SO REALLY JUST WANTED TO, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMINOLOGY,
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BUMBLE OUT MY THOUGHTS ON WHAT I THINK IS REALLY AN UNWIELDY CONVERSATION.AND AND THIS COUNCIL DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS REALLY JUST AN EFFORT TO TAKE THAT CONVERSATION OUT OF EMAILS AND EXCHANGES AND THAT SORT OF VOLLEYING BACK AND FORTH OF TRYING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE EVERYONE FEELS THAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
SO I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND I'LL GIVE THE FLOOR BACK TO YOU, MR. HOLDEN. THANK YOU.
ETHAN, PLEASE. HOW DID YOU GET FROM 4.5 TO 8 AGAIN? SO THE ACQUISITION WOULD BE 5 MILLION.
THERE'S ABOUT $1.5 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS TO CREATE THE CITY PUBLIC PARKING LOT.
AND THEN AROUND A MILLION, MILLION AND A HALF ON CLEVELAND AVENUE.
IF THERE WERE IMPROVEMENTS THERE THAT I KNOW SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE MENTIONED WANTING TO INCLUDE FOR US, PROBABLY SIX AND A HALF SEVEN COULD GET IT DONE. BUT I KNOW CLEVELAND AVENUE IS PROBABLY PART OF THAT, AS PER SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THIS COUNCIL.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS NON-BINDING.
AND ONE MORE POINT. AGAIN, I KNOW I MENTIONED IT BEFORE, BUT SINCE THAT APPRAISAL WAS DONE, WE'VE DONE ADDITIONAL FLOOD WORK.
THIS PLAN DOES NOT REFLECT THAT APPRAISAL.
SO THERE'S MORE LAND THAT IS BUILDABLE HERE.
SECONDARILY, IT VALUED THAT FLOODWAY LAND AS A PRIVATE DEVELOPER WOULD VALUE IT, NOT AS A CITY WOULD VALUE IT.
SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME SUBJECTIVITY HERE FROM THE COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU. THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN AN APPRAISAL.
AGAIN, IT'S WITHIN LINE OF OTHER PURCHASES MADE BY THIS ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL.
AND IT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GET THE DEAL GOING FORWARD. SO WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR GUY'S INSIGHT. WE KNOW THIS IS NOT A SMALL UNDERTAKING.
WE KNOW THIS IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL.
AND AGAIN, IT'S NON-BINDING, THOUGH. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS TO A NUMBER WHERE WE CAN AT LEAST WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND WORK WITH THE COUNCIL, WHEREAS THE RESOLUTION AS WRITTEN, WE COULDN'T EVEN WORK WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN POINT.
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO JUST ADD WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TAX ABATEMENTS AND THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE ASKING FROM THE CITY.
WE VIEW THIS RESOLUTION AS ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE TO WORK FOR IT.
WE'VE ASKED FOR SOME MODELING IN THE PAST FOR, LIKE HOW WE PAY BACK THE CITY OVER LIKE, YEARS 16 THROUGH 30 OR SOMETHING.
WE HAVE NOT ADVANCED THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
I THINK WITH THE RESOLUTION IN PLACE, IT'S GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO BE RELYING ON THIS BODY AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO START ITERATING MORE ABOUT HOW WE GET THERE.
BUT AT THE SAME POINT, IT IS LAND THAT WE OWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT GIVE AND TAKE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SELL LAND FOR PUBLIC INTEREST.
SO IT'S KIND OF KIND OF KIND OF WE'RE TRYING TO BE A WILLING PARTNER THERE.
SO I THINK THAT'S JUST A REALLY IMPORTANT THING HERE WHERE NOT ALL THE FINANCIALS ARE OUTLINED IN HERE, HOW THINGS GET PAID FOR, WHICH IS SOME OF YOUR CONCERN, AND I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT.
BUT WITHOUT HAVING THE FRAMEWORK IN PLACE, IT MAKES IT HARD FOR US TO JUST BE LIKE, LET'S KEEP INVESTING DOLLARS IN THIS.
THANK YOU, MR. BARRY. SO I'LL TELL YOU THE APARTMENTS WITH THE BUSINESS.
IF YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU WOULD TAKE FOUR, $4 MILLION AND JUST BUILD APARTMENTS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO RECOUP OUR MONEY ON THAT. I MEAN, WE'RE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY MONEY BACK. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY MONEY BACK IN IN INCOME TAX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO THE ONLY WAY I'M INTERESTED IN ANY OF THIS PROJECT IS IF THE BUSINESSES ARE PART OF IT, BECAUSE THAT WAY THE SCHOOLS EVENTUALLY GET SOME MONEY AND WE DO SO.
AND I'LL JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE 8 MILLION IS A HARD A HARD ONE FOR ME.
SO, I MEAN, I'D THROW OUT I'D MEET THEM HALFWAY AT 6.5.
AND I DON'T MEAN TO HAVE THIS SOUND LIKE, LET'S MAKE A DEAL, BUT I MEAN, I'D GO 6.5, SO I'D MAKE A MOTION FOR 6.5 AND NO MORE THAN THAT. IF THERE'S NO SECOND, THAT'S FINE.
ANDERSON. YES. OKAY. ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR.
AND MY CAVEAT IS, IS WHEN WE DO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE THE BUSINESSES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T SUPPORT TAX ABATING APARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT ALONE.
IT HAS TO HAVE THE BUSINESSES WITH IT.
THANK YOU. CHAIR, MAY I PLEASE.
THANK YOU. I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE JUST VOLLEYING MONEY BACK AND FORTH AND IT'S JUST MONOPOLY MONEY AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE PUBLIC, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE WE HAVE
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SAID WE'VE CONTINUED TO SAY THAT THIS IS AN A BINDING AGREEMENT, RIGHT? THIS IS A WISH.SO THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT FURTHER, BUT IF IF ANYONE COULD SPEAK ON THAT, AND I THINK KYLE DID COME UP AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I WOULD AGAIN, LOVE TO HEAR THE PROCESS OF WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN COMES BACK, BECAUSE I, I WILL I WILL SPEAK TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN A SECOND. BUT PLEASE, IF I MAY, THANK YOU. AS YOU'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES, THIS IS WE USE RESOLUTIONS TO KIND OF SET THE SET THE TONE FOR WHAT COUNCIL IS FEELING ON A CERTAIN ISSUE.
THIS IS NOT BINDING IN ANY WAY.
WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY DOLLARS TODAY.
WE'RE NOT EVEN FORMALLY COMMITTING TO SPEND ANY DOLLARS.
THIS IS COUNCIL SAYING IN CONCEPT WE THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT NUMBER.
WHATEVER THEY ULTIMATELY DECIDE IT IS, IT IS NOT BINDING.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MEAN MUCH, BUT IT DOES KIND OF SET THE EXPECTATIONS FROM COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE AND THE DEVELOPER.
SO WE'RE KIND OF OPERATING ON THE SAME FOOTING.
BUT FRANKLY THEY COULD TURN AROUND NEXT MEETING AND APPROPRIATE $10 MILLION IF THEY WANTED TO FOR THE PROJECT.
SO IT'S IT DOESN'T MEAN A WHOLE LOT OTHER THAN IT'S KIND OF LETTING EVERYONE KNOW PUBLICLY. HERE'S WHAT WE THINK.
YES, I THINK AND AGAIN, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF WE WILL SEE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN COME BACK IN FRONT OF US AGAIN.
CORRECT. AND HAVE WE ALREADY VOTED ON ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN? I KNOW WE SAW A PRESENTATION PRELIMINARY.
THANK YOU. NO. AND IF I MAY, THE THE OTHER THING I THINK YOU CAN FULLY EXPECT IS A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
WHEN THERE'S PUBLIC DOLLARS IN IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHERE WE WILL GO THROUGH AND ITEM BY ITEM KIND OF LIST.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT? WE'RE NOT FAR ENOUGH ALONG HERE TO KIND OF LAY THAT OUT, BECAUSE ALL WE'VE DONE IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE ALL THE ENGINEERING'S DONE. SO I'M NOT SURE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S ON THIS LIST. BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE WILL BE BRINGING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, WHICH WILL THEN SPECIFICALLY KIND OF OUTLINE THE THE MONEY AND THE OBLIGATIONS OF EACH OF THE PARTIES.
THANK YOU. AND THAT'S BEFORE EVEN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO WOULD THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IDENTIFY AS WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT AND AS MR. BERRY VERY SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF VENUE VERSUS RESIDENTIAL, USUALLY YOU WOULD SEE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN KIND OF RUN CONCURRENTLY. BECAUSE IT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO ONE BEFORE THE OTHER BECAUSE IT JUST CREATES CONFUSION, BECAUSE IF YOU APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, REACHED AN AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC DOLLARS. SO NORMALLY WE WOULD RUN THOSE CONCURRENTLY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK JUST MY LAST STATEMENTS ARE YOU KNOW, I AM ALSO OF THE MINDSET THAT OTHERS HAVE SHARED THAT THE VENUE IS THE SPACE THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SOLD ON, NOT RESIDENTIAL ALONE.
I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF THE FUNDS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE VERSUS THE FUNDS THAT THE, THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY ARE BRINGING FORTH.
AGAIN, THERE IS THE TAX ABATEMENT.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE COMPETING PRIORITIES THAT WE ARE ALL COLLABORATING ON AND WANT TO BRING FORTH TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND YOURS IS ONE OF THEM.
AND I, I THINK THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE THE VENUE ALONGSIDE AND NOT A SHRINKING VENUE, BUT A VENUE OF THE MAGNITUDE THAT YOU HAVE SHARED WITH US IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS AND THAT PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN SO EXCITED ABOUT.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HELP AS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN COME FORTH. SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I JUST MAY MENTION IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, WHEN WE HAVE IT WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, IT USUALLY HAS A PROVISION IN THERE ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION FROM THE PROJECT GUARANTEES TO THE CITY.
FOR INSTANCE, IF WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND AND PERHAPS BORROW $8 MILLION, WHAT IS THAT PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENT PER YEAR? WHAT WHAT WOULD THE DEVELOPER GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL BRING IN? THEY MENTIONED TONIGHT THE FIRST YEAR I BELIEVE IT WILL GENERATE $600,000.
THE SECOND YEAR 300. WILL THEY GUARANTEE THOSE PAYMENTS? SO ALL THOSE ITEMS WILL BE CONTAINED IN THERE.
SO MAYBE THE CITY AND COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC HAS A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT TRUE INVESTMENT DO WE HAVE IN THIS PROJECT.
AND I THINK THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER.
SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. WE VOTED ON THE AMENDMENT, SO WE'RE NOW TALKING RESOLUTION KR 3825 AS
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AMENDED, SUPPORTING THE EXPENDITURE IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 6 MILLION TO SUPPORT THE BROADWAY LIFE PROJECT.I THOUGHT IT WAS SIX 5 OR 6 FIVE.
GOSH, I HAVEN'T WRITTEN DOWN HERE.
DO YOU NEED ME TO READ IT AGAIN? NO, WAIT. CHUCK SCOTT.
IT STATES THAT THAT THE FUNDS ARE FOR LAND ACQUISITION AND PUBLIC PARKING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND THAT AS WAS MENTIONED.
IMPROVEMENTS TO HOME ROAD, BROADWAY.
OTHER ITEMS. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
SO I'LL MOVE TO I'LL MOVE TO AMEND THAT WE ADD THE USES OF HOME ROAD, BROADWAY AND CLEVELAND AND CLEVELAND AVENUE.
HOME ROAD, BROADWAY AND CLEVELAND AVENUE.
GOOD POINT, CHUCK. NEED A SECOND? SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE.
TAMMY, DO YOU NEED US TO READ THAT AGAIN OR.
NO. WE ARE AMENDING SECTION ONE.
YOUR MOTION IS TO AMEND SECTION ONE TO INCLUDE CLEVELAND AVENUE AND BROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF THE USE OF THE FUNDS.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION? MISS HOUK? YES. COLT. YES.
JERRY. YES. DO. YES. ANDERSON.
DO I NEED TO READ IT WITH AMENDMENTS? OR JUST READ THE TITLE AS IT IS BEFORE A VOTE? JUST THE TITLE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT THE PENDITURE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $6.5 MILLION TO SUPPORT THE BROADWAY LIVE PROJECT AND IMPROVEMENTS TO BROADWAY AND CLEVELAND AVENUE. OKAY.
WITH THAT, THIS RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MOVE IT BE APPROVED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS HAWKE.
THIS TEDIOUS PIECE OF LEGISLATION HAS PASSED.
AND I'LL PASS THE GAVEL TO YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. HOLT. I APPRECIATE IT.
ALL RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO PARKS WITH MR. BERRY. AND WE'LL GIVE MISS BURROUGHS A MINUTE TO JOIN US.
OH. WE'RE BACK. DO I HAVE A MISS HAWK?
[Resolution CR-32-25 Approval by Council to invest Staff Time and to expend Financial Resources at Brookpark Middle School. ]
YES. OKAY, WE HAVE RESOLUTION KR 3225 TO APPROVE THE INVESTMENT OF STAFF TIME AND AND EXPEND FINANCIAL RESOURCES AT BROOK PARK.MAYOR CHUCK, WHO'S TAKING THIS ONE? WELL, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. CASTLE, WHO CAN EXPLAIN IT.
BUT AS I MENTIONED IN THE CAUCUS EARLIER, THE 27,000 IS PRIMARILY PORTABLE EXPENSES.
SO JUST TO SET THAT RECORD STRAIGHT, IT'S NOT TO DO CAPITAL PROJECTS, ALTHOUGH IT MIGHT BE A MINIMUM AMOUNT, BUT THAT MR. CASTLE EXPLAIN THE SCOPE AGAIN AND THE PROGRAMS AND ANSWERS SHOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION OR WE'VE HAD THE LAST TWO MEETINGS.
SO I SHARED SOME SLIDES WITH YOU.
HOPEFULLY THEY'RE WORKING. BUT JUST WANT TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BROOK PARK AND WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH FOR OUR RESIDENTS THROUGH PROGRAMING THERE.
YOU KNOW, OUR DEPARTMENT'S MISSION, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH PROGRAMS THAT ENRICH LIVES, BUILD CONNECTIONS, AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH.
BROOK PARK. I THINK WE ALL FEEL IS NOT THE LONG TERM ANSWER TO THAT.
HOWEVER, IT CAN BE A BRIDGE UNTIL THE PERMANENT,
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PERMANENT CENTRAL HUB COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WE ALL WANT AND THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES.COMES TO REALITY. SO OUR PERSPECTIVE HERE IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PROGRAMS WE CAN OFFER, THE PEOPLE WE CAN SERVE, AND NOT NECESSARILY THE FACILITY ITSELF.
NEXT SLIDE. I WANT TO THANK AND INDIVIDUALLY LIST OUT HERE, OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
THEY'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB. THEY'VE EMBRACED THIS AND THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO OFFER SOME NEW, DIVERSE PROGRAMING.
NOT LISTED UP HERE IS OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT PARTNERS WHO WE ARE IN CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION WITH REGARDING THIS AS WELL.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS OUR PARK BOARD IS NOT LISTED UP HERE.
WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE PARK BOARD WHO IS VERY OPINIONATED AND AND DIVERSE IN THEIR THOUGHTS ON USE OF BROOK PARK AS WELL.
SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO OUR FOCUS, AS THE MAYOR INDICATED, IS PROGRAM FOCUSED AND NOT NECESSARILY FACILITY FOCUSED.
WE'RE NOT INVESTING INTO THIS BUILDING.
OUR FOCUS IS ON DELIVERING PROGRAMS. SO EVERYTHING THAT WE BRING INTO BROOK PARK AND IN THE THE BUDGET SHEET THAT YOU THAT WE SHARED ORIGINALLY WITH YOU IS PORTABLE, IT'S REUSABLE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY REVERSIBLE. WE CAN PULL IT OUT IF WE MOVE OUT OF BROOK PARK, EVERYTHING COMES WITH US.
SO NOTHING THAT WE DO HERE IS A PERMANENT FIX OR COMMITTING US TO THE BUILDING.
EVERY PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE WILL FOLLOW OUR EXISTING COST RECOVERY POLICY.
THIS MEANS THAT THIS HELPS US DECIDE HOW WE DETERMINE WHAT FEES ARE AND AND HOW THAT SPLIT GOES TO OUR INSTRUCTOR AND WHAT GOES TO THE CITY.
SO WE LOOK AT THIS AS NOT A LONG TERM CAPITAL INVESTMENT, BUT A SHORT TERM PROGRAMING RESOLUTION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING WE DO SAFETY COMES FIRST.
AND I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON THIS.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT LAST TIME.
BUT I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE IT TODAY.
PROGRAMS AT BROOK PARK WOULD BE STAFFED BY TEAM MEMBERS WHO ARE TRAINED AND CERTIFIED IN FIRST AID, CPR, AND AED.
ALL HALLWAYS AND CLASSROOMS WOULD BE MAINTAINED WITH A LINE OF SIGHT.
EVERY INSTRUCTOR AND STAFF MEMBER WILL HAVE DIRECT RADIO CONTACT FOR IMMEDIATE COMMUNICATION WITH ONE ANOTHER.
SO NOTHING IN THE BUILDING CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT US BEING AWARE OF IT.
WE ARE PREPARED FOR EMERGENCIES.
WE HAVE WRITTEN POLICIES INCLUDING MEDICAL INCIDENTS, LOCKDOWNS AND WEATHER RELATED CONCERNS.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU. I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH DIRECTOR KEIFER TODAY ON SITE WALK THROUGH OUR SAFETY PROCEDURES, AND I FEEL LIKE HE CAN SPEAK TO CONFIDENCE LEVEL AND HOW PREPARED WE ARE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A GOOD DRONE IMAGE THAT SHOWS THE THE SITE AND THE BUILDING OVERALL AND THE PARKING.
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S PARKING ON THREE SIDES OF IT.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY SOUTHWESTERN HAS BRANDED THE FRONT HALF OF THE BUILDING THE MAIN ENTRANCE WITH SOUTHWESTERN, SO WE WOULD NEED SIGNAGE AND THAT WOULD DIRECT US TO THE BACK OF THE FACILITY.
AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE WE INCLUDED THIS SLIDE JUST TO BREAK DOWN THE PARKING.
AND WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS IS IN THE BACK OF THE FACILITY WHERE OUR MAIN ENTRANCE WOULD BE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE SAME, IF NOT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING SPACES THAN THE FRONT ENTRANCE.
SO THAT'S NOTABLE. AND WE DO HAVE SOME YEAH.
THANKS FOR SHOWING THIS SLIDE. SO ON THIS ONE HERE, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FOUR ROOMS THAT WE WOULD BE FOCUSED IN.
AND THEY'RE LISTED AS ROOM ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR.
THERE ARE SEVERAL, SEVERAL OTHER ROOMS THAT WE COULD HAVE ACCESS TO, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THESE ARE FROM A SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY AND A SECURITY STANDPOINT.
GIVE US ALL A LINE OF SIGHT, AND WE WOULDN'T ENTER ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL ROOMS WITHOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL STAFF.
COMING BACK HERE AND DISCUSSING THAT WITH YOU GUYS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO HERE'S OUR CURRENT CLASSES.
AND AS YOU LOOK AT THESE WE ALL OFFER THESE RIGHT NOW AT KINGSTON.
WE HAVE A GOOD MIX OF PROGRAMS. BUT THIS IS MAXIMUM MAXIMUM CAPACITY.
WE CAN'T OFFER ANY ADDITIONAL CLASSES WITHOUT TAKING SOME OF OUR CURRENT CLASSES AWAY.
SO THERE'S NO ROOM FOR FURTHER EXPANSION AT KINGSTON.
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NEXT SLIDE. FUTURE CLASSES.BROOK PARK WOULD ENABLE US TO UNLOCK SOME SHORT TERM OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMS THAT NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY HAS REQUESTED, BUT OUR STAFF HAS REQUESTED AND SEE AS A NEED. YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A VARIETY OF THINGS HERE FROM CREATIVE ARTS, MUSIC, EXPRESSION, EVEN SPORTS AND MOVEMENT TO INNOVATION AND COMMUNITY TYPE CLASSES.
BROOK PARK WOULD ALLOW US TO PILOT THESE PROGRAMS AND THESE OPPORTUNITIES, WHILE NOT TAKING AWAY FROM CURRENT CLASSES THAT WE CURRENTLY OFFER.
THIS WOULD HELP US PREPARE FOR WHAT MOVING INTO A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER WOULD LOOK LIKE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NUMBERS AND IMPACT.
KINGSTON THROUGH WE HAVE THREE SMALL ROOMS AND THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 1500 SQUARE FEET.
BROOK PARK, IN THE FOUR ROOMS THAT WE IDENTIFIED EARLIER, WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 4218FT², BRINGING US TO A TOTAL OF 5787 ROOMS. PARTICIPATION. IF WE LOOKED AT A CURRENT SCHEDULE AND WE WERE AT MAX CAPACITY IN OUR CLASSES THAT WE OFFER AT KINGSTON, WE'D BE RIGHT AROUND ON 259 PARTICIPANTS PER SESSION. LOOKING AT BROOK PARK, THAT WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL 501 PARTICIPANTS, BRINGING THE TOTAL TO 760 SERVED IN A SESSION.
A SESSION WITH US RIGHT NOW IS TWO MONTHS LONG.
SO FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE THE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW IS AROUND 17,000.
FROM WHAT WE OFFER IN OUR SESSIONS, TWO IF WE WERE TO ADD BROOK PARK, IT WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL IF AT MAX CAPACITY 40,911, BRINGING A TOTAL PER SESSION OF 58,000.
AND AGAIN, ALL THIS IS WITHIN OUR CURRENT COST RECOVERY POLICY.
SO WE WOULD BE MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON THAT POLICY AND RECOVERING BASED ON THE TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT WE'RE OFFERING.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN CAUCUS A LITTLE BIT.
SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OUR PARK PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER, AND IT'S ONE OF THE MOST REQUESTED SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HAD WAITING LIST NUMBERS OF OVER 100 KIDS.
YOU SEE THERE ALREADY, WE HAVE A WAITING LIST OF 73.
THIS WILL GROW ALSO TO OVER 100 AS CALLS CONTINUE TO COME IN.
OUR OUR PARK TEAM HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF INCREASING OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION TO AN ALL TIME HIGH.
WE ANTICIPATE HAVING SERVING OVER 200 KIDS THIS YEAR IN OUR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, BUT IT STILL LEAVES A LOT ON THE WAITING LIST.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS ALSO GOES TO OUR SUMMER CAMPS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF CAMPS THAT WE OFFER THIS YEAR TO TRY AND COMBAT THAT WAITING LIST. CURRENTLY THERE'S STILL 35 KIDS IN OUR IN OUR PARK PROGRAM THAT ARE ON WAITING LIST. AND WE HAD FOUR WEEKLY CAMPS THAT HAD ACTIVE WAITING LISTS, SO HAVING THE ABILITY TO OFFER MORE SPACE AND CREATE ANOTHER CAMP WOULD GET EVEN MORE KIDS IN OUR SUMMER PROGRAM.
NEXT SLIDE. SO THE IMPACT WE WANT TO PROVIDE STRONG ACCOUNTABILITY AND AND CONSISTENT REPORTING. SO WE'RE SAYING THAT TWICE A YEAR WE COULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL, PRESENT DETAILED NUMBERS AND UPDATES TO COUNCIL ON PARTICIPATION, REVENUE, EXPENSES AND IMPACT.
WE DON'T WANT TO FORGET THE STORY, THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THE CLASSES THAT WE'RE OFFERING AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN IT.
THIS WILL ALLOW US NOT REAL TIME EVALUATION, BUT CONSISTENT EVALUATION IN IN ABLED US TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE NEXT UPCOMING SESSIONS TO INCREASE THAT IMPACT AS NEEDED. COUNCIL WOULD ALWAYS BE ENGAGED AND INFORMED OF OUR PROGRESS.
NEXT SLIDE. SO I WANT TO RECAP IF WE CAN FOR FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE. IT'S NOT ABOUT A BUILDING.
BROOK PARK JUST GIVES US THE ABILITY TO OFFER ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT ENRICH LIVES.
WE DO OPERATE SAFELY, RESPONSIBLY AND WITH FULL ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF FAMILIES AND KIDS AND ADULTS THROUGH OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER. ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS WILL BE FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE, SUSTAINABLE WITH OUR COST RECOVERY MODEL IN MIND.
AND BROOK PARK IS A SHORT TERM SOLUTION AND IT ALIGNS WITH OUR CURRENT MASTER PLAN.
BUT IT WILL HELP PREPARE US FOR THE LARGER EFFORT IN OUR LARGER GOAL OF A CENTRAL HUB
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COMMUNITY CENTER. THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS OUR CURRENT MASTER PLAN ENDS THROUGH 2025.IT EMPHASIZES EXPANDING ACCESS, EQUITY, AND PROGRAM VARIETY.
BROOK PARK WILL HELP US DELIVER ON THOSE GOALS IN THE SHORT TERM.
THE PLAN ALSO CURRENTLY CALLS FOR LONG TERM FACILITY INVESTMENT, WHICH WE ARE ADDRESSING THROUGH COUNCIL THROUGH ADMINISTRATION.
AND ON THIS COMMUNITY CENTER AND THROUGH OUR SITE SELECTION AND FINANCIAL COMMITTEES.
BROOK PARK, WE CONSIDER IT TO BE A STEPPING STONE, ENSURING THAT WE DON'T LEAVE ANY FAMILIES BEHIND WHILE WE PREPARE FOR AN EVENTUAL OPENING OF A CENTRAL HUB IN 2029 OR 2030.
WITH THAT, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR LISTEN TO ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CASTLE. GREAT PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY.
THANK YOU. I LOVE THAT YOUR SOLUTION IS IS PORTABLE FOR SURE.
MISS KELLY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP OF THE BUILDING WHERE IT SHOWED THE YELLOW ROOMS AND THE HALLWAY? THANK YOU.
CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US, MR. CASTLE, WHERE ARE THE RESTROOMS THAT THE YOUTH IN THE PROGRAMING WOULD BE USING IN THIS GRAPHIC? SO WE HAVE RESTROOMS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH OF THE MAP AND I GUESS IT'S BLUE, MAYBE PURPLE, IT SAYS, I THINK IT SAYS NUMBER SIX.
TO THE TOP LEFT. SO FOR OUR CLASSROOMS CLASSROOM USAGE OF ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR, THOSE WOULD BE THE RESTROOMS, PRIMARY RESTROOMS. IF WE HAVE WE HAVE RADIOS, WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WOULD BE IN THAT HALLWAY.
THAT'S A BLACK LONG HALLWAY THERE ACROSS FROM ROOM ONE, TWO AND THREE THAT'S IN THAT CENTER FOR LINE OF SIGHT.
SO IF A KID WAS TO COME OUT OF A CLASSROOM TO USE THE RESTROOM OR IN CLASS.
THEY WOULD CONTACT THEM AND THAT PERSON WOULD SEE THAT INDIVIDUAL OR THOSE KIDS TO THE RESTROOM IF THEIR PARENTS WERE NOT WITH THEM.
WE DON'T CURRENTLY DO THAT AT KINGSTON BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SITE HOST THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE RESTROOMS AND IS ABLE TO MONITOR THOSE OR HEAR ANYTHING OR SEE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
AND TRUE THAT DURING A LOT OF THE YOUTH PROGRAMING, PARENTS ARE THERE. THEY BRING THEIR CHILDREN, BUT DURING AFTER SCHOOL CARE AND DURING SUMMER PROGRAMING, PARENTS ARE NOT THERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMING IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STAFF THAT ARE WE, WE PAY ATTENTION TO A RATIO OF STAFF PER KIDS PER PARTICIPANT, AND NO KID LEAVES THE ROOM BY THEMSELVES.
STAFF MEMBERS ALWAYS WITH THEM AND TAKES THEM TO THE RESTROOM. DID THAT EVEN THIS SUMMER AT KINGSTON, WHERE WE HAD A SUMMER CAMP.
THAT GREEN. THAT IS THE POWELL'S PROGRAMING SPACE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL TIMES WHERE THE POWELL'S PROGRAMING IS IN SESSION, WHILE MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE IS IN SESSION FROM OUR PARKS AND REC PROGRAMING.
SO THE ONLY WAY THAT WOULD HAPPEN IS IF WE DID DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMING. AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMING WOULD TAKE PLACE AROUND 3 TO 6.
THE POWELL'S PROGRAM ACTUALLY IS ON THE BUS AND LEAVING BY 345 EVERY DAY.
OKAY, SO THERE COULD BE CROSSOVER, COULD BE CROSSOVER.
HOWEVER IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROGRAMING, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAMING OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF PROGRAMING THAT WE'D HAVE WOULD TAKE PLACE AT NIGHT AFTER BUSINESS HOURS AND OR ON THE WEEKENDS.
OKAY. AND IF THERE IS POTENTIAL CROSSOVER WITH THAT, THAT POWELL'S PROGRAMING IF, IF THAT POTENTIAL EXISTS, YOU SAID IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT PROGRAM.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAD PRESENTED TO IS THAT WE HAVE 70 CHILDREN ON THE WAITLIST FOR THE AFTER SCHOOL CARE.
RIGHT? SO THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS HEAVILY CONSIDERED IN THIS PROGRAMING IS THAT. YEAH. BUT SO WE'D HAVE TO GET INTO A LOT OF DETAILS.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT IS AN AREA THAT WE COULD FOCUS ON AS WELL.
OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER GREEN AREAS I KNOW THREE AND FOUR.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE SOUTHWESTERN SCHOOL OPEN ENROLLMENT IS.
IS THAT ACCURATE? SO YES, THAT IS SEMI ACCURATE.
THEY'RE ALSO IN THE OFFICE SPACE WHICH IS PINK EIGHT I THINK IT IS.
OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE PINKS ARE EIGHT.
YEAH. SO THEY'RE ALL OFFICE SPACES THERE THAT THEY DO HAVE ACCESS TO AS WELL.
CORRECT. SO COMING IN THAT MAIN ENTRY, THAT DOOR IS GOING TO BE OPEN AND UNLOCKED.
HOW? SO IF PUBLIC PEOPLE ARE MOVING AROUND LOOKING FOR THE SOUTHWESTERN PROGRAMING, HOW WILL THEY IS THERE OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY WON'T GET ACCESS TO THE THE YELLOW ROOMS THAT ARE MARKED SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR PROGRAMING?
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YES. SOUTHWESTERN LEAVES THE FACILITY.THAT FRONT DOOR, THAT MAIN ENTRY IS LOCKED.
AND WE WOULD HAVE SIGNAGE AND DIRECT OUR PARTICIPANTS TO ENTER THE BACK PART OF THE FACILITY, WHICH KEEPS THEM OUT OF THE FRONT.
IF WE WERE TO USE THE GYM AND OR THE THEATER, WE WOULD ALSO USE THE ENTRYWAY OPPOSITE MAIN ENTRY CURRENTLY, AND WE WOULD HAVE STAFF MEMBERS THERE AS WELL.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE OUTLINED.
I THINK ALSO, WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH THE NUMBERS, I DID WANT TO ASK A QUESTION THERE.
SO YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBERS FOR KINGSTON THAT ARE NOW AVAILABLE.
IS THAT NOW INDICATIVE OF THE WITH THE REC SCHOOL NOW BEING IN ITS PERMANENT LOCATION, IS THAT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE ADDITIONAL SPACE WITH THE REC SCHOOL VACATING KINGSTON.
SO THAT WHERE THE REC SCHOOL WAS LOCATED WE'VE ACTUALLY EXPANDED OUR STAFF.
WE WENT FROM 13 FULL TIME STAFF TO 23.
AND SO THERE ARE SIX MEMBERS SIX CUBICAL CUBICLE SPACES THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING.
SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL PROGRAMING SPACE.
OKAY. SO ADDITIONAL STAFF NEEDED TO KIND OF ACCOMPANY THAT THAT, THAT. OKAY. I, I I'VE PROBABLY SPOKEN AD NAUSEAM ON BROOK PARK AND HAVE GIVEN MY COMMENTS. I DO, YOU KNOW, BELIEVE YOU'VE ADDRESSED SAFETY I'VE.
AS THE CHAIR OF SAFETY. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR WITH DIRECTOR TEDFORD AS WELL. I LOVE THAT IT'S A PORTABLE SOLUTION.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I YOU ALSO MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THAT THERE ARE CONFLICTING, PROBABLY PERSPECTIVES FROM OUR OWN PARK BOARD WHO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY AND DILIGENTLY IN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AND GOING ON MULTIPLE TOURS. I STILL THINK THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PUSH SO MUCH INTO A MULTI-USE SPACE VERSUS IF THIS SOLUTION IS PORTABLE, CAN WE FIND EMPTY WAREHOUSES OR OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WOULD NOT HAVE OTHER THINGS AS SOUTH-WESTERN CITY SCHOOLS OR OTHER PUBLIC ENTITIES THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THE BUILDING? YES, THE DOOR DOES GET LOCKED, IT SOUNDS LIKE AT CERTAIN POINTS, BUT NOT KNOWING WHAT ALL THE PROGRAMING OPTIONS ARE IN FRONT OF ME TODAY.
AND AS A PARENT OF SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN, I KNOW I'M ALREADY THINKING OF NEXT SUMMER AND OUR SUMMER REC PROGRAM.
THAT DOES HAPPEN ALL DAY LONG, AND THAT WILL BE A BIG TIME FRAME WHEN THERE IS OPEN ENROLLMENT THAT IS RUNNING THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.
I AM JUST CONTINUALLY STRUGGLING WITH SPENDING THIS MONEY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A BETTER AGREEMENT FOR BROOK PARK AS IS, BUT ALSO JUST TRYING TO TAKE THIS MULTI-USE BUILDING AND AND CHISEL THINGS APART VERSUS I, I COMPLETELY BELIEVE WE NEED MORE SPACES FOR PROGRAMING.
I LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE COULD START SERVING OUR COMMUNITY BIGGER NOW BEFORE WE GET IN, IN THIS LARGE BRICK AND MORTAR COMMUNITY CENTER.
I, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GET BEHIND BROOKE PARK VERSUS LOOKING AT OTHER BUILDINGS, OTHER WAREHOUSE SPACES THAT WOULD BE SOLELY USED FOR PARKS AND REC AND COULD BE SILOED AND SAFE FOR OUR YOUTH AND COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. MISS ZELNICK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT TWO SIX, FOUR THREE LAURIS WAY IN GROVE CITY.
MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY LEADERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND CITY LEADERS LIKE JACK.
I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP. I WANTED TO SAY RIGHT OFF THE BAT I AM A MEMBER OF THE GROVE CITY PARK BOARD. I HAVE SERVED.
I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF MY BACKGROUND TO EXPLAIN THAT I UNDERSTAND.
I BELIEVE I HAVE A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEEDS OF THE GROVE CITY COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO PARK AND RECREATION.
I'VE SERVED ON THE YMCA CONSULTING BOARD FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
I'VE SERVED ON THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
I'M THE CURRENT DA VICE REGENT.
I'VE WORKED IN COMMUNITY RELATIONS WITH SENIORS ACROSS GROVE CITY.
I'M THE MOM OF TWO COLLEGE KIDS WHO DID ALL OF THEIR SCHOOLING HERE IN GROVE CITY AND WENT THROUGH THE GROVE CITY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROGRAMING FOR ALL OF THEIR YEARS HERE IN GROVE CITY.
I SHARE ALL OF THIS TO EXPLAIN THAT I BELIEVE I DO HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS. I JOINED THE PARK BOARD FOUR YEARS AGO AT THE MAYOR'S REQUEST, LARGELY BECAUSE OF WHAT I JUST MENTIONED IN MY EXPERIENCES IN THE CITY.
AT THE VERY FIRST MEETING, ROBBIE SCHOTTKY CAME TO THE VERY FIRST MEETING THAT I WAS A PARK BOARD MEMBER, AND HE PRESENTED THE IDEA OF A COMMUNITY
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CENTER AND ENCOURAGED THE PARK BOARD TO FOCUS ON BUILDING A COMMUNITY CENTER AND DISCUSSING THIS IDEA WITH WITH THE THEN PARK BOARD DIRECTOR, KIM CONRAD. SHE URGED THE PARK BOARD TO CONSIDER THIS NOT AS A SINGLE FOCUS GOING FORWARD, BUT AS PART OF A GREATER FOCUS.TOGETHER WITH DISCUSSING IMPROVEMENTS TO CURRENT PARK SPACES AND CREATING A LONG RANGE GOAL FOR THE PART FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO ACHIEVE THIS MISSION, WE CREATED A TASK FORCE WHERE WE ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY, CITY LEADERSHIP AND KEY STAKEHOLDERS THROUGH A PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS TO BUILD A SHARED VISION FOR PARKS, RECREATION, COMMUNITY PROGRAMING AND OFFERINGS.
THIS, ALONG WITH THE FURTHER STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY THAT WE HIRED PROS CONSULTING TO PERFORM WITH GROVE CITY CITIZENS.
WE DETERMINED THAT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS ASKING THAT WE NEEDED TO BUILD A LARGE ONE LOCATION CITY LED MULTIGENERATIONAL COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE DOVE IN DEEPER, BROKE INTO TEAMS, HELPED WITH THE HELP OF PEZZUTI.
WE CAME UP WITH LOCATIONS, FUNDING OPTIONS.
IT WAS ONLY THEN, THREE MONTHS AGO, THAT WE WERE TOLD AS A PARK BOARD, THAT WE HEARD THAT THERE WAS MONEY AND PLANS TO PUT MONEY INTO BROOK PARK TO UTILIZE FOR PROGRAMING SPACE. RESPECTFULLY, I DO NOT AGREE WITH PUTTING MONEY INTO BROOK PARK. I BELIEVE WE'RE ONE OF THE BEST COMMUNITIES IN CENTRAL OHIO.
WE DESERVE BETTER THAN BROOK PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR OUR CHILDREN, OURSELVES, AND OUR GRANDPARENTS FOR CITY PROGRAMING.
I THINK THAT WE INSTEAD OF PUTTING MONEY TOWARDS BROOK PARK, WE NEED TO LINK ARMS AND DO WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TOLD US TO DO AND BUILD A LARGE ONE LOCATION CITY RUN, MULTIGENERATIONAL CENTER.
WE NEED TO PUT GUARDRAILS IN PLACE TO ENSURE IT REMAINS A SHORT TERM BRIDGE WITH MINIMAL TIME, EFFORT AND FUNDS EXPENDED.
I RECOMMEND THAT WE DO AS THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED INSTEAD AND LINK ARMS TOGETHER AS A CITY COUNCIL, A MAYOR, THE CITIZENS OF GROVE CITY AND CITY LEADERS AND DO WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED US TO DO TO BUILD A COMMUNITY CENTER, NOT PUT FUNDS TOWARDS BROOK PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL.
MITCH CURRY. MITCH. STILL HERE? I DIDN'T SEE YOU. HI. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YEAH. MITCH CURRY, FOUR THREE, SIX SIX ASHGROVE DRIVE.
I'M HERE AS BOTH A PARENT OF TWO YOUNG CHILDREN AND A COMMUNITY MEMBER TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE PARKS PROGRAM'S USE OF THE BROOK PARK BUILDING.
FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN BEEN ON THE WAIT LIST FOR AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM.
IN THAT TIME, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE CALL BECAUSE THE WAITLIST IS SO LONG.
LIKE, LIKE MANY OTHER PARENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, WE NEED EXPANDED ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE, RELIABLE AFTER SCHOOL CARE FOR OUR KIDS.
THE THE DEMAND IS OVERWHELMING, AND THE CURRENT RESOURCES JUST SIMPLY AREN'T ENOUGH. PERSONALLY, I HAD TO SWITCH TO WORKING NIGHTS JUST TO MAKE THINGS WORK.
I MISS DINNERS, BEDTIME STORIES, AND IMPORTANT MOMENTS WITH MY FAMILY.
BUT LIKE MANY OTHER FAMILIES, WE COULDN'T AFFORD ANY OTHER OPTIONS.
I WOULD ALSO MUCH RATHER MY CHILDREN BE IN A SCHOOL SETTING WHERE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE THAN IN SOME OUTSIDE BUILDING OR WAREHOUSE TYPE SETTING.
MY KIDS ARE MORE COMFORTABLE IN CLASSROOMS IF THEY GO FROM A CLASSROOM TO A CLASSROOM.
THAT IS THE MOST COMFORTABLE THING FOR THEM. AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF CURRENT PARENTS COULD AGREE WITH THAT. AS MENTIONED BY MR. CASTLE, AN AVERAGE OF 80 TO 90 KIDS HAVE BEEN ON THE WAITLIST OVER EACH YEAR OF THE PAST THREE YEARS. AND BROOK PARK PROVIDES ME PERSONALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND THOSE EVENINGS WITH MY CHILDREN AGAIN. AND I KNOW I'M NOT ALONE, AND THAT BUILDING IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
IT IS A QUICKER SOLUTION THAN SOMETHING THAT IS BRAND NEW WHICH OVER TIME I THINK WOULD BE A FANTASTIC USE OF FUNDS.
BUT KIDS DON'T STAY YOUNG FOREVER.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CURRY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
LAST TIME YOU PRESENTED, YOU SAID YOU HAD THE STAFFING IN THE BUDGET, THE 2025 BUDGET TO HANDLE THE BROOK PARK EXPANSION.
YES, SIR. AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR AS YOU GUYS WILL RECALL,
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WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE GOING IN TO BROOK PARK.AND SO WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR BUDGET TIME, OUR PARKS MAINTENANCE TEAM OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR PARKS CREWS REQUESTED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, PART TIME FUNDING, WHATEVER IT TOOK TO TO SERVICE NOT ONLY BROOK PARK, BUT ALSO WE WERE BRINGING ON AT THAT TIME A NEW FACILITY IN THE PAVILION OVER AT BEULAH.
AND SO YEAH, THESE THESE ARE DOLLARS THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.
AND WE WOULD JUST DIVERT AND MOVE FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER.
SINCE YOU HAVE ALL THESE ALREADY, THEN 2026.
YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS YOU KNOW, CLASSES, COMMUNITY CLASS TYPE CLASSES AND PROGRAMS. SO ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE STAFF IT FOR FOUR ROOMS GOING FROM FOUR ROOMS TO POSSIBLY SEVEN ROOMS DOESN'T INCREASE OUR STAFFING.
THE CLASSES ARE WE RECRUIT AND HIRE INSTRUCTORS WHO ARE NOT EMPLOYEES.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO RECRUIT ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES TO TO WORK THOSE CLASSES.
AND THESE INSTRUCTORS GET PAID BY THE REGISTRATION FEE THROUGH THE, THROUGH THERE. SO OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY IS BUILT RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S HOW IT WOULD BE EVEN IF WE ADDED ADDITIONAL ROOMS. YOU YOU MADE YOUR POINT AT THE END, BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT NEW CLASSES, BUT MY INTEREST WAS DEFINITELY HANDLING THE WAITLIST FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HERE NOW. FIRST, SO YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IMMEDIATE NEEDS FIRST BEFORE WE START ADDING POTTERY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH. THERE'S CLASSES THAT IF WE HAVE A COUPLE CLASSES THAT CANNOT EXPAND, AND WE WOULD CONSIDER MOVING THOSE OVER TO BROOK PARK IN THE BIGGER FACILITIES WHERE THEY COULD EXPAND. BUT THEN WE WOULD ALSO OFFER ADDITIONAL CLASSES THAT WOULD DRAW IN NEW PARTICIPANTS. MY INTEREST REALLY ISN'T MUCH IN ADDING ALL KINDS OF NEW CLASSES.
I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT HANDLING THE DEMAND WE HAVE FOR CURRENT CLASSES.
I'M. HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE'RE RENEGOTIATING OR CREATING A MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING WITH BROOK PARK ABOUT THE ORIGINAL LEASE AGREEMENT.
SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT WILL BE A LITTLE MORE SELF-EXPLANATORY WHEN WE GET THAT DONE.
BUT I'D ALSO THANKS, TRICIA, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I THINK WE'RE PRETTY WELL LOCKED ARM IN ARM WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER CURRENTLY, AND I DON'T SEE THIS AS AN EITHER OR RIGHT AT THE MOMENT. SO I THINK THERE'S I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY HERE TO HANDLE CURRENT DEMAND.
AND I THINK WITH THE RENEGOTIATION OF THE LONG TERM LEASE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I'LL BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.
FIRST OF ALL, JACK, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING ME ON A TOUR OF BROOK PARK.
IT TOOK ME BACK TO, AS A CHILD GROWING UP AND GOING TO THE LOCAL REC CENTER EVERY EVENING.
AND IT JUST MADE ME THINK WE WE JUST APPROPRIATED 75,000 FOR ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAM. THAT DOES NOT ACT SOLELY IMPACT ADULTS IN GROVE CITY, BUT IN AREAS OF FRANKLIN COUNTY.
AND SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KIDS IN GROVE CITY, AND THERE'S A DISCUSSION AROUND MONEY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS AND HELPING ME SEE WHAT IT CAN BE.
WELL THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MISS HAWK? THANK YOU, MR. CASTLE, AS ALWAYS, FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A PRESENTATION AND PROVIDING US WITH ALL THE ANSWERS TO ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS. REALLY? CAME CAME TO LIGHT AS WE DISCUSSED THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH WE, I THINK POSTPONED A COUPLE TIMES.
AND I REALLY KIND OF JUST WANT TO GO BACK FOR ME TO THIS CONVERSATION.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE IS THE NEED TO SEPARATE, EIGHT. SOME OF THE THE BIG PLANS THAT WE HAD FOR BROOK PARK FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE SOME STICKER SHOCK CONCEPTUALIZING WHAT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THERE AND AND REALLY NOT THAT THE INVESTMENT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WELL WORTH IT, BUT THAT THE AGREEMENT, THE LEASE AGREEMENT LEFT US WITH SOME LEVEL OF RISK AND AN UNKNOWN.
AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF PLAYED OUT TO BE TRUE,
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AS WE SEE, THE DISTRICT HAS AN INCREASED NEED FOR USE OF THE PROPERTY, ETC.. SO YOU KNOW, THIS I KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THAT THIS RESOLUTION, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SAID TO ME MORE THAN ONCE THAT YOU ALL CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF OUR ORDINANCE SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO NOT INVEST YOUR TIME AND YOUR MONEY IN BROOK PARK.BUT I LOOK AT THIS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARD.
COUNCIL HAS BEEN HEARD IN THAT EQUATION. WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT AT BROOK PARK.
WE DON'T LOVE THE TERMS OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT, AND SO WE ARE GLAD TO HEAR CONVERSATIONS OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.
AGAIN, WE HAVE NOTHING BUT A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND I WOULD EXPECT US TO BE ABLE TO GET TO A GOOD SPOT AS IT RELATES TO THIS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.
I WISH WE HAD IT IN FRONT OF US TODAY.
WE DO NOT. BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN LETTING THIS PROCESS PLAY OUT AND BRINGING EVERYONE TO SOME LEVEL OF CONSENSUS ON THIS TOPIC.
AND I THINK YOU ARE ALL HEARING THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR THAT WE ARE INVESTED IN SEEING TO ITS COMPLETION A MULTI GENERATIONAL COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT ABSOLUTELY NOT TO THE DETRIMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMING IN THE INTERIM.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE OUR, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE HAVE THIS ALTERNATIVE IN PLACE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IT AFFORDABLY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET, AS WE ALL KNOW IT FOR THE YEAR.
AND I WILL SAY THAT IT IS IT IS DIFFICULT.
YOU YOU WANT THE ANSWERS TO ALL THE QUESTIONS, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T YOUR FIRST RODEO.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE KINKS OUT AND COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR HOW YOU WILL UTILIZE THIS SPACE. AND AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE LEVEL OF ADDITIONAL SERVICE WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO OUR YOUTH. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WATCH THE NEWS ON THE DAILY PARKS AND RECREATION IS A TICKET TO HEALTH AND WELLNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND AND I WANT THAT FOR EVERY CHILD IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND UNLIKE MR. HOLT, I WANT THERE TO BE NEW THINGS IN THE POTTERY CLASS.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR STAGE, FOR GETTING US HERE.
WHICH I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT MORE AT A CONSENSUS VIEWPOINT OF USING THIS FACILITIES IN A, IN A VERY CONTROLLED WAY TO MEET THE NEEDS.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A TEMPORARY FIX.
IT'S A BRIDGE TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE.
I THINK IT'S A WIN. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I WAS LOOKING BOTH WAYS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE.
AGAIN, TRISHA, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE ON THE ON THE PARK BOARD.
AND, YES, WE ARE 100% BEHIND LOCKING, TRYING TO TRYING TO GET THE BIG CENTER DONE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO STILL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
RESOLUTION CR 3225 APPROVE THE INVESTMENT OF STAFF TIME AND TO EXPEND FINANCIAL RESOURCES AT BROOK PARK. THIS RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND I MOVE IT BE APPROVED. SECOND. BARRY.
YES. HOLT. YES. YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE FORGOTTEN.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MADAM CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, MR. BERRY. AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF THIS EVENING'S BUSINESS AGENDA. IF THERE IS ANY NEW BUSINESS TO BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION,
[Call for New Business ]
NOW IS THE TIME TO DO SO.I HAVE A JOSH BURTON THAT IS SIGNED UP.
JOSH, DID YOU STICK WITH US? YES. THERE HE IS. YES.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BRING MY TOPIC.
JOSH BURTON, 3105 PARK STREET, RIGHT DOWN THE END OF THE STREET HERE. MINE COULD HAVE BEEN AN EMAIL. I'M SORRY, BUT I FELT LIKE BRINGING IT TO YOU. WELL, GLAD YOU CAME. I KNOW.
SO EVERY HOUSE NOW FROM, YOU KNOW, EAST OF BROADWAY ON PARK STREET HAS A BIG DIRT PILE ON THE FRONT OF IT. SINCE WE'VE BEEN, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2 TO 3 WEEKS AGO.
STRASSER'S DID SOME CONSTRUCTIONS, THEY PUT SOME DRAINS DOWN, WHICH IS AWESOME.
I LOVE SEEING THE THE WORK ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
REALLY? THAT'S GREAT. BUT NOW WE HAVE A DIRT PROBLEM AND IF THE GRASS ISN'T GROWING BY NOW, IT'S EARLY SEPTEMBER.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GROW AT ALL. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MUD ALL WINTER LONG. SO I AND YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL, BUT WATER IS EXPENSIVE.
AND I'VE BEEN OUT THERE WATERING EVERY DAY FOR THREE STRAIGHT WEEKS.
THAT'S HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS IN WATER. AND THE GRASS WAS NEVER GOING TO GROW BECAUSE THE SEED THEY USED IS SHADE SEED.
EVERYBODY THAT'S GOT TREES, IT'S GROWING.
SO CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? AND THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS SOMEBODY WILL DO CONSTRUCTION, THEY'LL LEAVE. THEY THROW DIRT
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ON THE GROUND. THEY MAYBE THROW SOME SEED, THEY TAKE OFF.THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IN A YEAR.
SO MAYBE JUST SOME ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR CONTRACTORS I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE WORKING THEY'RE DOING THEIR THING. THEY DID A GREAT JOB. BUT HOW DO WE RESOLVE THAT.
IS THAT IS THERE A WAY WE CAN CALL THEM BACK OR GET SOME SOMEBODY TO SPRAY SOME SEEDS? MR. HAMMONDS IS RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
I'M GOING TO CONNECT YOU WITH THE BEST PERSON TO TALK TO.
AND THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT.
YEAH. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I RECEIVED THIS PHONE CALL THIS MORNING.
AND I USUALLY, NOT USUALLY, ALMOST ALWAYS, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, RETURN PHONE CALLS BY THE END OF THE DAY I HAVE I DON'T I'M NOT TRYING TO EMBARRASS HIM, BUT IN 30 YEARS DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED SUCH A VULGARITY FILLED VOICE MESSAGE. SO I THOUGHT, I'LL WAIT A DAY.
I COULD PLAY YOU THE MESSAGE ON MY PHONE, BUT WE CAN'T PLAY IT IN PUBLIC.
SO I GAVE THE GENTLEMAN MY CALL, MY CARD.
I WILL SPEAK WITH HIM TOMORROW.
ANYTIME THAT WE DO A PROJECT, YOU KNOW THERE IS RESTORATION.
SOMETIMES THE GERMINATION IS SUCCESSFUL, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT.
WE WERE VERY LUCKY FOR HOLTON ROAD BECAUSE WHEN THEY SPREAD THAT SEED, WE HAD A LOT OF RAIN IN THE SPRING. CORRECT? UNFORTUNATELY, THEY PLACED THAT SEED DOWN.
NOW WE HAVE A DROUGHT. THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO COME BACK TO RESEED THAT.
AND IF IT DOESN'T GERMINATE, THEY'LL HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE IGNORING ANYONE.
WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT ON COLUMBUS STREET AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW THIS ALL TRANSPIRED, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH THEM TOMORROW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT.
IT'S GOOD TO KNOW, THOUGH, ABOUT IF IT DOESN'T GERMINATE, THEY'LL COME BACK AND AND WE'LL AND WE'LL HAVE ROUND TWO.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS FOR COUNCIL? THAT BRINGS US TO YOU, MAYOR STAGE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PATIENCE AND TALKING ABOUT BROOK PARK.
I AGREE WITH YOU. THE STICKER SHOCK WAS UNCALLED FOR, BUT IT ALL MADE PUBLIC AND DISCUSSED AND I'M GLAD WE HAD THE DISCUSSION.
SO WE ARE HERE WHERE WE ARE, AND I THINK IT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME, QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN JACK MENTIONED THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE EXPANSION WERE 1500 SQUARE FOOT NOW, AND WITH THIS NEW ONE, IT'S 4000 ADDITIONAL 4000.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT MUCH.
THERE IS NO REPORT THIS EVENING.
LABOR DAY WEEKEND WAS A GOOD WEEKEND, WEATHER WISE AND POOL WISE.
I THINK WE HAD, WHAT, 60 SOME PEOPLE SHOWED UP SUNDAY OR SATURDAY, AND THEN SUNDAY THERE WEREN'T MANY, BUT LABOR DAY WE HAD 200 OVER 200 PEOPLE CAME. YEAH. SO. THE ONLY THING THAT I MIGHT MENTION AND THE THE SHOW AT THE PARK OF BEULAH WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.
I MEAN, WE ESTIMATE AT LEAST A THOUSAND PEOPLE.
BUT THERE WAS AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT WITH A ROBBERY THAT TOOK PLACE, GOT A LOT OF CHATTER ON THE CHATTER BOXES I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IF I COULD HAVE OUR SAFETY DIRECTOR EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW THAT INCIDENT PLAYED OUT.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
IT WAS PRETTY MUCH COVERED BY THE MEDIA OVER THE WEEKEND.
BUT WE DID HAVE SOME TWO SUSPECTS WHO WERE ACCUSED OF THEFT ISSUES ON STRINGTOWN ROAD IN BUCKEYE PARKWAY. ONE OF OUR OFFICERS ATTEMPTED TO STOP.
HIS CAR WAS HIT, STRUCK AND DAMAGED.
JUST SOME SOME MINOR DAMAGE TO THE CAR, BUT HE DID STRIKE IT.
THE SUSPECT DROVE DOWN WHITE ROAD AND COMMITTED MANY TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS, INCLUDING SPEEDS UP TO 75 MILES AN HOUR LEFT OF CENTER DOWN HOOVER ROAD.
WE FOLLOWED ALL OF THIS IS BEING REVIEWED BY THE CHIEF TO MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS WERE COMPLIANT WITH POLICY.
BUT THE FACTS THAT WE DO KNOW THAT HE WENT NORTHBOUND ON 71, THE SUSPECT IN A IN A FEMALE PASSENGER GOT OFF AT GREENLAWN AVENUE, TURNED LEFT WENT INTO A ROUNDABOUT AND THEN STRUCK A WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A CONCRETE PILLAR NEAR THE GREENLAWN CEMETERY, WHICH MR. WILSON IS AWARE OF. UNFORTUNATELY, BOTH OCCUPANTS OF THE VEHICLE WERE KILLED IN THE CRASH. WE'RE STILL INVESTIGATING.
WE'RE WORKING WITH MR. SMITH AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS RIGHT. BUT IT
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WAS AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.BUT FROM ALL MY OBSERVATIONS, I WAS ACTUALLY OUT THAT NIGHT IN THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE SERGEANT WAS VERY GOOD.
SO WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT NO ONE WAS HURT IN GROVE CITY, FOR THERE WAS SOME SERIOUS RECKLESS DRIVING.
THE REASON I WANTED TO MENTION THAT, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY BLESSED THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD PARTICULARLY FATALITIES INVOLVED IN CHASES AND SO FORTH. AND THIS WAS VERY, VERY RARE.
AND THE FACT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLED IT AS PROFESSIONAL AS THEY DID IS WORTH, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING WITH YOU AND MAKING YOU AWARE OF.
SO THE OTHER THING WE GOT GOING WE PUT A NEW FLAGPOLE OUT OF STRINGTOWN SUNDAY ONE WE'RE GOING TO DO A SMALL DEDICATION ON SEPTEMBER THE 11TH.
AND THE THE EVENT IS CENTERED ON THE FIRST RESPONDERS.
SO ANYBODY'S WELCOME. WE'LL KEEP PART OF THE FENCE DOWN SO YOU CAN GO OVER TO THE PARKING LOT BY THE PIZZA PLACE AND BE THERE IF YOU WANT TO, BUT THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD EVENT.
AND THE ONE THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD MENTIONED YET TONIGHT, HAWTHORNE PARKWAY, HAWTHORNE PARKWAY IS OPEN.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? A SAFETY ISSUE. SO HAWTHORNE PARKWAY IS OPEN NOW.
IT MAY CLOSE INTERMITTENTLY BECAUSE THERE IS SOME MORE WORK TO BE DONE, BUT THAT IS QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR CHUCK AND THE WHOLE CREW HERE, BECAUSE WE DID APPLY SOME PRESSURE.
MR. BOWSER. JUST AN OBSERVATION.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE SAT HERE TONIGHT FOR 3.5 HOURS AND DISCUSSED MANY IMPORTANT ISSUES, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN TERMS OF DISCUSSING THESE AND DEBATING THESE ISSUES. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, COUNCIL MAKES A DECISION.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION, AND I'M SURE THE PUBLIC RESPECTS THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE. SO THANK YOU.
MISS KELLY. IS THERE A TIME ON SEPTEMBER 11TH FOR THAT FLAG DEDICATION YET? THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL LEAD WITH THEIR EVENT, AND I DON'T KNOW. I'VE NOT SEEN THE TIME YET.
OKAY. EXCUSE ME. I THINK IT'S 9:00, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
OKAY. WHAT? WE'LL WATCH FOR THAT.
I THINK, ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE SAID MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR TONIGHT, SO THANK YOU. OH, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.
OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING.
AND WE WILL HAVE THE CLOSING COMMENTS OF COUNCIL BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[Call for Dept. Reports & Closing Comments ]
AND THAT WILL WE WILL TAKE NO ACTION.THIS IS STRICTLY FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.
SO I WILL START WITH YOU, MR. DU. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER, MR. BERRY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
TWO YEARS AGO, DID WE THINK WE'D GET 1000 PEOPLE FOR FOR THAT SHOW? I DON'T THINK SO. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL THE CITY STAFF AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, MR. HOLT. I'LL JUST SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THE DRONE SHOW.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO WHEN I WENT THERE.
I WAS EXPECTING LITTLE DRONES BUZZING AROUND OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN WHEN I GOT THERE, THERE WAS THIS THING IN THE SKY.
IT WAS AWESOME. IT WAS THE SEAL OF GROVE CITY AND MADE ME FEEL PRETTY PROUD.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHO COORDINATES THAT OR WHATEVER, BUT TO ME, THAT WAS ALMOST AS GOOD AS FIREWORKS AND I THINK IT WAS WAY LESS EXPENSIVE. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD DO A COUPLE OF THEM.
I LOVE IT, THANK YOU, MISS BURROWS.
WELL, THE MAYOR STOLE MY THUNDER ABOUT HAWTHORNE PARKWAY BEING OPEN THROUGH FARMSTEAD. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRAVEL DOWN THAT LAST WEEK, AND I WAS, LIKE, SO EXCITED BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND YET YOU DID NOT TEXT IMMEDIATELY.
I'LL TEXT YOU WHEN IT'S CLOSED AGAIN. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ANDERSON.
YES. ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT HAWTHORNE PARKWAY.
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT? AND KUDOS TO THE PARKS AND REC TEAM FOR THE DRONE SHOWS.
MY SECOND YEAR ATTENDING, IT WAS INCREDIBLE.
WE HAD OUT-OF-TOWN GUESTS WHO WERE ALSO VERY IMPRESSED WITH IT.
WE WERE ONE OF THE ONES THAT CAME A LITTLE BIT LATER, A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE TIME OF THE DRONE SHOW, THOUGH. SO PARKING WAS A LITTLE CHALLENGING, AND OUR FRIENDS SAID SOME OTHER FRIENDS WERE WITH US.
YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WERE TEN CARS LAST YEAR AND A THOUSAND CARS THIS YEAR.
SO I THINK THE MOVIE AHEAD OF TIME IS ALSO A GREAT IDEA, AND I THINK THAT WILL HELP ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME OUT EARLIER NEXT TIME AND TAKE THAT TIME TO FIND PARKING. SO THANK YOU.
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MISSY I WAS SENDING HIM LIVE VIDEO DURING THE THING SO HE COULD I WAS THERE.OH, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WALKED ALL AROUND THE PARK.
I WAS SENDING YOU VIDEO. I DIDN'T 2.1 MILES.
MR. OLSON, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT AND ATTENDED COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST DEMOCRACY IN ACTION.
AND SO I APPRECIATE SEEING EVERYONE HERE AND AND EVEN HEARING THE VOICES OF PEOPLE WHO HAD CONCERNS. SO THANK YOU.
CAN I JUST MAKE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT? THANK YOU. OH, YES.
REAL QUICK. SORRY. DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE ROOM I GOT.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY WE ARE HONORED TO KNOW TONIGHT THAT MIKE BOSSO, OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, WILL BE HAVING A PERSONAL DINNER WITH THE HUD SECRETARY, SCOTT TURNER, NEXT WEEK REPRESENTING THE CITY OF GROVE CITY AND HIS POSITION ON THE ICC INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL. SO WE'RE HONORED TO BE IN THE PRESENCE OF ROYALTY.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL DINNER. SO CONGRATULATIONS, MICHAEL. WHAT AN HONOR.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE ROOM? BECAUSE I DID FORGET THAT.
AND I SHOULDN'T RUSH THROUGH THE GOOD PART.
OKAY. THIS SHOULD ONLY TAKE 20 OR 30 MINUTES.
SOUNDS GOOD. ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT? MAYOR STAGE. OUR DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, KYLE RAUSCH.
ENGINEER RYAN ANDREWS AND MYSELF ATTENDED THE ODOT PUBLIC MEETING AUGUST 27TH AT EAGLE PAVILION TO VIEW THREE ALTERNATE CONCEPTS FOR A ROUNDABOUT AT SIX, 65 AND 62. YOU HAVE THE HANDOUT THERE.
THERE WERE FIVE TABLES SET UP FOR AREA RESIDENTS TO LOOK AT CONCEPTS AND ASK QUESTIONS. ACCORDING TO ODOT PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER MATTHEW MCGUIRE, ABOUT 75 PEOPLE ATTENDED, AND PROBABLY 75% OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE IN FAVOR OF HAVING A ROUNDABOUT IN THAT AREA.
THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TAKE COMMENTS UNTIL SEPTEMBER 19TH.
AND IF YOU GO TO THE WWE TRANSPORTATION.
OHIO.GOV PROJECTS LOOK FOR 11 9830 AND YOU'LL GET MORE INFORMATION.
AFTER THEY COLLECT ALL OF THEIR COMMENTS, THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE THOSE WITH US AND WE'LL SHARE THEM WITH YOU AS WELL.
COLUMBUS STREET UPDATE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE INSTALLATION OF THE SANITARY AND STORM SEWERS ARE COMPLETE. THE LAST PHASES OF ROADWAY WORK UNDERWAY FROM HAWTHORNE ROAD TO DUDLEY. AND WE ARE EXPECTING TWO WAY TRAFFIC FROM HOOVER ROAD TO SECURITY DRIVE BY THIS FRIDAY OR EARLY NEXT WEEK.
WE'RE STILL AWAITING FULL RECOVERY SCHEDULE FROM RULON TO CATCH UP, BUT WE EXPECT MID NOVEMBER COMPLETION DATE FOR ALL WORK TO BE FINISHED AT THAT TIME BEFORE THANKSGIVING. THE PARKING LOT PAVING AT GARDNER IS COMPLETE WITH SOME RESTORATION, INCLUDING LIGHTING TO BE FINISHED THERE.
ALSO, BUILDER SCAPE HAS JUST BEGUN.
MOBILIZATION FOR THE GARDEN AND SENSORY GARDEN, AND WORK IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH WINTER FOR SPRING PLANTINGS THERE.
A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING WITH DANBURY COMPANY WAS CONDUCTED AUGUST 28TH FOR THE PINNACLE QUARRY PARK. YOU'LL SEE EARTHWORK BEGIN IN OCTOBER, WITH CONSTRUCTION CONTINUING INTO NEXT SUMMER FOR THAT.
AS YOU RECALL, THE NEW PARK WILL INCLUDE A PLAYGROUND, TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS WITH LIGHTING, ONE BASKETBALL COURT, A THREE SEASON SHELTER WITH RESTROOMS, AN INTERNAL SHARED USE PATH WITH ALMOST HALF A MILE, AND IT WILL ALSO CONNECT WITH STATE ROUTE 104.
IT WILL HAVE TEN PARKING SPACES WATER, ELECTRICITY AND SANITARY.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY EXCITING PROJECT WHEN COMPLETE.
THE STREET PROGRAM AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT UP AND DOWN, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. IT'S ABOUT 70% COMPLETE.
SOME OF THE MORE NOTABLE PROJECTS COMPLETED INCLUDE THE PARK STREET AND HORN ROAD SHARED USE PATH, ALTHOUGH SOME RESTORATION WORK IS STILL NEEDED, INCLUDING FLASHING BLINKERS AT THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT HORN AND ANGELA DRIVE.
THE BEULAH PARK SLOPE SECTION TWO CONNECTION EXTENSION IS UNDERWAY AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY MID SEPTEMBER. MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER. PAVEMENT REPAIRS ON STATE ROUTE 62 FROM VENTURA TO KINGSTON AVENUE WILL START AFTER ARTS IN THE ALLEY, BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT THAT TO CONFLICT WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING THAT WEEKEND. THERE IS NO CURB OR INLET WORK WITH THAT PROJECT.
THE CONCRETE WORK AT THE CORNERS OF HOOVER ROAD AND WHITE ROAD IS NOW COMPLETE, AND MILLING AND REPAVING IS SCHEDULED TO START SEPTEMBER 10TH, AND WORK CAN ONLY BE DONE BETWEEN 9:30 A.M.
AND 2:30 P.M. TO AVOID CONFLICT WITH SCHOOLS.
WE HAD A LITTLE ISSUE WITH THEM SHOWING UP ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL UNANNOUNCED, UNBEKNOWNST TO US, AND THEY CREATED HAVOC, SO WE ARE CLAMPING DOWN ON THAT.
AND ALSO THE REPAVING AT HOLTON ROAD AND BUCKEYE PARKWAY,
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WHICH WILL BEGIN SOON, AND THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE SAME SCHEDULE THERE AS WELL. EXCUSE ME.CITY BUILDING FOUR FOUR, FOUR FOUR BROADWAY IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN IN MID SEPTEMBER. IF YOU'VE GONE DOWN BUCKEYE PARKWAY, YOU'VE SEEN HEAD WALL DRAINAGE RECONSTRUCTION THERE ON THE EAST SIDE.
THAT IS COMPLETE. AND RESTORATION IN THAT AREA HAS BEGUN AS WELL.
CITYWIDE, EXTENSIVE PAVEMENT STRIPING EFFORT, INCLUDING MAJOR THOROUGHFARES IN THE CITY AND CITY OWNED PARKING LOTS TO BEGIN IN MID SEPTEMBER. THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM IN WEST GROVE AREA IS SCHEDULED TO START NEXT WEEK.
OUR DEPARTMENT MET WITH OVER 25 RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA.
AND THEY QUESTIONED SOME PANELS, AND THERE WERE PROBABLY 20 TO 25 PANELS THAT WERE REMOVED FROM THE PROGRAM BECAUSE WE FELT THAT THEY WERE NOT NEEDED AND THEY WERE RIGHT IN THOSE INSTANCES. IRONICALLY, WE DID ADD A FEW PANELS WHICH DID NOT GET CAUGHT THE FIRST TIME. AND LASTLY, LEGISLATION PASSED FOR NORTH MEADOWS LAND ACQUISITION. SO WITH KRW 3725, WE INTEND TO ADVERTISE IMMEDIATELY FOR NORTH MEADOWS REALIGNMENT PROJECT AND WITH BIDS OPENING HOPEFULLY ON SEPTEMBER 26TH FOR THAT.
SO YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING THERE AS EARLY AS OCTOBER.
SO THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
DID YOU GET ANY TIME TO PUT YOUR FEET UP THIS SUMMER AND NO LEMONADE? NO. AND I DON'T NEED IT. DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT.
THANK YOU. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY FORTUNATE TO BE IN A CITY LIKE THIS THAT UNDERTAKES SO MANY INCREDIBLE PROJECTS.
I'VE WORKED FOR COMMUNITIES ONE RELATIVELY RECENTLY IN SOUTHWESTERN OHIO, THAT IF THEY COULD HAVE COMPLETED ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY. SO I'M TRULY BLESSED.
I THINK WE AS A COMMUNITY, WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ADMINISTRATION, I DON'T THINK WE REALLY REALIZE, YES, IT'S AGGRAVATING SOMETIMES, BUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GETTING DONE IS ASTOUNDING.
THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT WHEN IT'S DONE. THAT'S MY MANTRA. IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT WHEN IT'S DONE. ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE ROOM. MR. CASTLE, I'M SORRY YOU GOT TO DO IT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY ENJOY ABOUT THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS IS NORMALLY I DON'T HAVE TO COME UP HERE AND DO A REPORT BECAUSE THE MAYOR REALLY LOVES AND SUPPORTS PARKS AND RECREATION, AND USUALLY HE'S TALKING ABOUT UPCOMING PROGRAMS. BUT I THINK HE MISSED A COUPLE TODAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO FILL IN THE GAP.
WE HAVE THE MAYOR'S PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT IS COMING UP THIS WEEKEND.
THIS IS A FUNDRAISER FOR LIFECARE ALLIANCE.
AND LAST YEAR WAS OUR SECOND ANNUAL, AND I THINK WE HAD 32, 33 TEAMS TOTAL. THIS YEAR, WE ALREADY HAVE 57.
SO WE'RE REALLY PUSHING TO GET TO 60 THIS YEAR.
SATURDAY IS NATIONAL TAILGATING DAY.
SO AFTER THE BUCKEYE GAME, PLEASE COME TO TOWN CENTER PARK.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SATURDAY CONCERT WITH A COUPLE OF FOOD TRUCKS.
THESE GUYS LIVE WILL BE PLAYING.
THEY'VE PLAYED HERE BEFORE AND THEY'RE REALLY POPULAR AND CONCERTS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. VAIDYA. MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS WILL BE QUICK, BUT THIS IS PREPAREDNESS MONTH.
NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH, SEPTEMBER.
BUT IN THAT SPIRIT, I'D LIKE YOU TO MAYBE PUT A DATE ON YOUR CALENDAR.
WE'RE PLANNING A SIGNIFICANT DISASTER.
TABLETOP EXERCISE NOVEMBER 19TH FROM 9 TO 1.
IT'S VERY AMBITIOUS. IT WILL BE A THREE PART EXERCISE.
ONE GROUP WILL BE SOUTH-WESTERN CITY SCHOOLS, WHICH WILL DEAL WITH THE THE SCENARIO.
BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE A HEALTH CARE GROUP WHICH WILL INVOLVE MOUNT CARMEL, OHIOHEALTH AND NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S.
THEY'LL WORK RELATIVELY THE SAME SCENARIO, BUT IN HEALTH CARE.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PRIVATE SECTOR GROUP THAT WALMART'S THE TORSOS, THE FORGES WILL WORK THE SAME SCENARIO IN A FACILITY OF THEIR TYPE.
SO WE BELIEVE THERE'S GREAT BENEFIT IN PLANNING AS A COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN, BUT THE THEME IS IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF ALL THESE FOLKS TALKING ABOUT THIS SCENARIO AMONGST THEMSELVES. SO A PRETTY AMBITIOUS UNDERTAKING, BUT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING FOR IT BECAUSE WE WILL BE BETTER BY DOING IT.
YES. THAT'S AMAZING. IS THIS THE FIRST EXERCISE OF THIS MAGNITUDE? YES. I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY'S TAKEN THIS ON, AND. BUT IT'LL BE GOOD.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS.
ALL RIGHT. MY CLOSING COMMENTS ARE THE NEXT MEETING IS SEPTEMBER THE 15TH.
WATCH YOUR CALENDAR FOR WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE WE REALLY RUSHED OUR WAY OUT OF CAUCUS OUT HERE.
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BUT WE WILL BE MEETING AT 530.AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER OHIO REVISED CODE, SECTION ONE 2111 G2 AND ONE 2111 G3, G2 IS TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES.
G3 IS CONFERENCES WITH OUR LAW DIRECTOR CONCERNING DISPUTES INVOLVING THE PUBLIC BODY THAT ARE THE SUBJECT OF PENDING OR IMMINENT COURT ACTION.
SECOND. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WORK ON OUR ENTHUSIASM.
DO. MR. DO. YES. BURROWS? YES. ANDERSON. YES. WILSON.
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ADJOURNING AT THIS POINT, BUT WE WILL BE TAKING NO FURTHER ACTION.
THANK YOU FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US, EVERYONE.
THANKS FOR STAYING THE WHOLE NIGHT.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? BURROWS.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THAT'S IT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.