[1) Call to order and roll call. ]
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430. WE'LL GET STARTED EARLY. EVERYBODY'S HERE. YOU DON'T MIND? RIGHT? OKAY. MY NAME IS GEORGE. I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE GROVE CITY BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, AND I LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. AND IF WE STAND AND HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I APPRECIATE IT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. GREAT. AND NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED IN HERE, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK.
WE'LL HAVE. IF YOU COULD STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND MISS LAURA WILL SWEAR YOU IN. SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, JUST STAND. GO. LIKE THIS, MR. MILLER SPEAKING. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE. WELL, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT, AND THAT YOU'RE TESTIFYING OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
[3) Approve the minutes from the September 22 meeting the Board of Zoning Appeals.]
OKAY, NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 22ND MEETING. I HAVE A MOTION. I WILL I WILL MAKE A MOTION. SECOND. THAT A SECOND. MR. CHAIR. YES, MR. HAHN? YES? COULD YOU DO ROLL CALL? NO. OKAY. GOT THAT DONE. AND SO THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS,[4) Hear the appeal of John Miller, Miller’s Dream Decks for 2095 Presley Dr. (Parcel #040-005738) for a variance to section (Table) 1135.10-II to encroach the 30’ front building setback by 7’ with an 8’ X 35’ covered porch for a total front setback of 23’. ]
THROUGH THE APPEAL OF JOHN MILLER MILLER'S DREAM DECKS FOR 2095 PRESTLEY DRIVE, PARCEL NUMBER 040005738. FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION TABLE 1135.10 DASH II. TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT BUILDING SETBACK BY SEVEN FEET WITH AN EIGHT BY 35 COVERED PORCH, FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF 23FT. SO WE HAVE JOHN MILLER. DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT YOUR APPEAL? JUST TELL US WHY YOU WANT TO DO IT AND DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING FANCY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, SO WE'RE WANTING TO BUILD A FRONT PORCH, AS YOU MENTIONED ON ON THE JOHNSON'S HOME, AND WE'RE WANTING TO GO EIGHT FEET ON OUR DEPTH ON IT AND 35FT IN IN LENGTH. WE KNOW THE EIGHT FEET IS A LITTLE FURTHER THAN THE ALLOWANCE I THINK BY LIKE A COUPLE INCHES, SIX INCHES OR SO.SO WE WANT TO ASK FOR THAT EXTRA SPACE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THEM WITH A SUFFICIENT SPACE THAT YOU KNOW, THEY NEED FOR, FOR THEIR FRONT PORCH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. REALLY ALL I HAVE. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S IT. THE ONLY STIPULATION WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK AND EVERYTHING, IS THAT IT'S BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. IS THAT SORT OF THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE? THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE IS TO START NEXT WEEK. OKAY. SO IT'LL DEFINITELY BE DONE. OKAY. WITHIN 12 MONTHS. OKAY. HAVE WE HEARD BACK FROM ANY OF THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS? YES. WE DO HAVE ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE CORBETT'S THERE ACROSS THE STREET. AND THEY SAID THAT THEY DEFINITELY THINK IT WOULD IMPROVE AND ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OH, GREAT. OKAY. I THINK IT WOULD, TOO. YEP. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE JOHN MILLER'S DREAMS DECK DREAM DECKS FOR THE 2009 95 PRESLEY DRIVE. PARCEL NUMBER 040005738 FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION TABLE 1130 5.10 DASH II TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK BY SEVEN FEET WITH AN EIGHT FOOT BY 35 FOOT COVERED PORCH FOR TOTAL SETBACK OF 23FT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. JUST TO CLARIFY, DOES YOUR MOTION INCLUDE STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF CONSTRUCTION? BEGINNING? YES.
I'M SORRY. YES. AND WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE CONSTRUCTION BEGIN WITHIN 12 MONTHS. YES.
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OKAY. ONE OF THE. OKAY. SO SECOND. ALL THOSE. OKAY. CHAIR. YES. MR. HAHN? YES. OKAY, SO YOUR VARIANCE HAS BEEN APPROVED. THERE'S USUALLY A 20 DAY WAITING PERIOD WHERE THE WHERE CITY COUNCIL CAN REVERSE A DECISION. RIGHT. IT'S 21, 21 DAYS. AS I SAY 20. OKAY, I APOLOGIZE 21 DAYS. VERY SELDOM DOES THAT HAPPEN. BUT IF CONSTRUCTION BEGINS NEXT WEEK, SORT OF AT RISK. BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S YOUR DECISION. SO OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.[5) Hear the appeal of Noell Alexander, Cap City Decks and Patios for 1567 Tuscarora Dr. (Parcel #040-005912) for a variance to Section (Table) 1135.14-III to encroach the rear yard setback of 25’ by 12’ with a raised pool deck, for a total setback of 13’. ]
OKAY. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO HEAR THE APPEAL OF NOEL ALEXANDER. CAPACITY DECKS AND PATIOS FOR 1567 TUSCARORA DRIVE. PARCEL NUMBER 040005912 FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION TABLE 1135 .14 DASH II II. TO ENCROACH THE REAR YARD SETBACK OF 25FT BY 12FT WITH A RAISED POOL DECK FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF 13FT. OKAY, AND YOU ARE? NOEL. NOEL? NOEL? YES. I'M REPRESENTING. I HAVE MARY AND CHARLES WITH ME ALSO. BUT THEY DID BUILD A POOL. YES. THE HOMEOWNERS. OKAY. AND THEY HAVE A POOL BUILT. AND SO WE WERE GOING TO PUT A DECK IN THERE FOR THEM SO THAT THEY CAN EASILY ACCESS THE POOL AND JUST HAVE IT LOOK VERY PRETTY. OKAY.HAVE WE CONTACTED THE ANY OF THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS? MR. YES, WE DID, BUT WE DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM ANYONE. OKAY. I THINK THE YOUR PRESENTATION WAS PRETTY WELL SELF-EXPLANATORY. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, MR. HAHN. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR, I GUESS, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
MIKE BOZZO DO IS THERE A POOL PERMIT? DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SWIMMING POOL PERMIT OR ELECTRIC PERMIT FOR THAT POOL? I KNOW IT'S FOR THE DECK, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT. LAURA. I DIDN'T CHECK ON THAT. IT'S ABOVE GROUND. IT'S AN ABOVE GROUND POOL. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE KNOW IF THEY DID GET A PERMIT OR NOT FOR IT, BECAUSE I WAS JUST WONDERING THE SAME THING. BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK BACK AT THE LAST SLIDE, I THINK IT SHOWS IT ENCROACHING INTO THAT BUILDING SETBACK ALSO. THAT'S I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A NEW POOL THAT WAS NOT PERMITTED OR NOT. WAS THAT POOL IN THERE PRIOR TO THE SUBMITTED A PERMIT FOR THE POOL? WOULD YOU LIKE TO STEP UP AND SPEAK INTO THE MIC, PLEASE? THANK YOU. SORRY. OH NO PROBLEM. SORRY. CHARLES IRWIN. YES, WE SUBMITTED A PERMIT THAT WAS APPROVED BY MR. TAYLOR. WE WORKED WITH HIM AND MR. I CAN'T THINK OF THE LAST NAME JED. AND THEY WE HAD GOT SECURED THE PERMIT FOR THE POOL, BUT THIS IS A SEPARATE PERMIT AND THE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE, THE DECKING. BUT THE, THE POOL MAY ENCROACH IN THAT TOO THOUGH.
AND WAS THE ELECTRIC LOOKED AT. YEAH. WELL JUST BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF SAFETY WATER AND ELECTRIC. YES YES I, I CAN'T I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CHECK WITH MR. TAYLOR TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I, I WAS NOTIFIED THAT MY PERMIT WAS APPROVED. YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT IN STATE ELECTRIC TO DO THAT AND ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS TO CITY CODE FOR THE POOL. OKAY. SHOULD WE VERIFY THAT ON MR. YEAH, I'M CHECKING ON THAT NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO IF ONE AFFECTS THE OTHER TABLE THIS AND TAKE THE NEXT ITEM WHILE I LOOK THIS STUFF UP. OKAY. CAN WE TABLE THIS FOR TEN MINUTES OR 15 OKAY. SO WE'LL JUST STAY HERE. WE'LL HAVE HIM CHECK, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S ABSOLUTELY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK. WE DON'T DELAY IT
[6) Hear the appeal of Jeffery Rezes, property owner at 2625 Dennis Lane, (Parcel #040-003390) for a variance to Section 1137.05 to allow a 42” solid wood fence to encroach the 30’ front setback along Santa Maria by 30’ and the 30’ front setback along Dennis by 10’ for a setback of 20’. ]
ANOTHER 30 DAYS OKAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT OKAY. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE DENNIS LANE NUMBER THREE.THIS IS TO THE PIER. THE APPEAL OF JEFFREY. HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE THAT LAST NAME? REASON. OKAY. PROPERTY OWNER AT 2625 DENNIS LANE. AND IT'S PARCEL NUMBER 040003390 FOR A
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VARIANCE TO SECTION 1137 .05 TO ALLOW A 42 INCH SOLID WOOD FENCE TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ALONG SANTA MARIA BY 30 BY 30FT, AND A 30 FOOT 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ALONG A DENNIS BY TEN FEET FOR TOTAL SETBACK OF 20FT. AND WANT TO MAKE YOUR CASE? WELL, I GUESS THE BIGGEST CASE IS THAT I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 1991. WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN, IT HAD A FENCE THERE THAT NEEDED REPLACED. I PUT IT UP THE SAME PLACE THAT I JUST HAD TO REPLACE THIS FENCE.SO I GUESS THAT'S MY BIGGEST CASE, I SUPPOSE. I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU? SHOULD I GO ON OR YOU WANT? I THINK THAT'S IT. AND THERE WAS WE HAD SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE BUSHES THAT WERE THERE ALONG THE STREET. CORRECT. I MET WITH IT'S BEEN RESOLVED SO KEVIN. SO WE'RE GOOD THERE.
THE WHAT'S HIS NAME SEAFORD. YEP. TODAY SAFETY DIRECTOR I BELIEVE SAFETY DIRECTOR WAS OUT THERE. SO HE GAVE US HIS BLESSING ON THAT. YEAH, THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR VARIANCE. HAVE THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS BEEN NOTIFIED, MISS SCOTT? YES. AND WE DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSES. NO RESPONSES. OKAY. THEY PRETTY MUCH HELPED ME WITH OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE. SO YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. HUNT? NO. AS I WAS READING WHAT YOU PUT IN THERE AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OBVIOUSLY WE ALL LIVE IN GROVE CITY, BUT AS I WAS READING THIS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE HELP EACH OTHER. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS DID FOR YOU. EXACTLY. WHICH IS WHICH IS GREAT. YES. WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD HERE. I APPRECIATE THEM ALL SO MUCH.
YEAH. THAT WAS THAT WAS A GREAT LETTER. SO YEAH, WE LOVE GROVE CITY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. SO AND THE THE FENCE BASICALLY WENT RIGHT WHERE THE OLD ONE WAS. RIGHT. SO PARDON ME THE IT'S THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS. YES. CORRECT. YES. SO NOTHING REALLY CHANGED. NOTHING CHANGED AT ALL.
YEAH. OKAY OKAY. AND THE WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE. 1212 MONTH DEAL BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPEAL OF JEFFREY REYES, PROPERTY OWNER, 2625 DENNIS LANE, PARCEL 040-003390 FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1137 .05 TO ALLOW A 42 INCH SOLID WOOD FENCE TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ALONG SANTA MARIA BY 30FT AND THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ALONG DENNIS BY TEN FEET FOR TOTAL SETBACK OF 20FT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY, CHAIR? YES, MR. HAHN? YES.
OKAY. YOUR VARIANCE HAS BEEN APPROVED. YOUR YOUR LEGAL. I GUESS I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE 21 DAY THING, BUT IT'S ALREADY UP, SO IT'S. YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY INCONSEQUENTIAL.
OKAY. THANKS A MILLION. SHOULD I SIGN SOMETHING? DO WE DO I THINK YOU'LL GET CORRESPONDENCE.
YEAH, YOU'LL GET CORRESPONDENCE CONFIRMING OUR DECISION. YOU'RE FREE TO GO. CUPS ARE OFF. YEAH.
OKAY. BACK TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. TUSCARORA, WHICH IS CHARLES AND NOEL. WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE POOL BEING APPROVED BY THE BUILDING. YEAH. SO I DID LOOK UP THE RECORDS. THERE WAS A POOL PERMIT THAT WAS ISSUED ON 625 OF 25. WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED ANY OF THE REQUIRED INSPECTIONS FOR THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT, SO THEY'LL STILL NEED TO BE DONE. BUT OKAY.
OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. IF SO, HOW DO WE MOVE? DO THEY HAVE WOULD THEY HAVE TO BRING ANOTHER? IF THAT DOES ENCROACH THAT, DO THEY HAVE TO BRING A VARIANCE FOR THE POOL? NO. WE WENT AHEAD AND ISSUED IT FOR THE POOL. OH OKAY OKAY OKAY. GREAT. OKAY. SO. I'D LIKE TO LET'S SEE. HERE WE GO. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE WE GRANT THE APPEAL OF NOEL AND ALEXANDER OF CAP CITY DECKS A PATIO, DECKS AND PATIO FOR 1567 TUSCARORA DRIVE. PARCEL NUMBER 040005912.
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FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION TABLE 1130 5.14 DASH II TO ENCROACH THE REAR SETBACK OF 25FT BY 12FT WITH A RAISED POOL DECK FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF 13FT. I'LL SECOND THAT CHAIR. DOES THAT INCLUDE A THAT INCLUDES THE. THAT CONSTRUCTION WOULD BEGIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, WHICH I'M SURE YOU WANT TO DO SOONER THAN THAT. SO THAT'S OKAY. AND SO OKAY. YES. MR. HAHN. YES. OKAY. YOU'RE APPROVED. YAY! THAT WAS EASY. WE'RE NICE GUYS. JUST IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. INSPECTIONS FOR YOUR POOLS, THOUGH. YEAH, JUST WITH THE ELECTRIC AND. YEAH, IT'S FOR YOUR OWN. IT'S REALLY FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY. YEAH. ANYWAY. WELL, I'M ELECTRICIAN, THAT'S WHY. SO THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE I LIKE TO STICK WITH THE SAFETY. YEAH.OKAY. I'LL. WELL I KNOW THAT THEY WERE IN CONTACT WITH SAFE ELECTRIC AND I THINK THAT WAS THE ONE THAT THEY WANTED TO GO OUT AND DO THE POINTS. RIGHT. THEY CONNECTED THE POOL. SO I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH MR. TAYLOR AND AND JED. GREAT. OKAY. OKAY. AND AS IN THE OTHER CASE, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL COULD ALWAYS OVERTURN WHAT WE COME UP WITH. THAT VERY RARELY HAPPENS. SO IN MY 11 YEARS ON THE BOARD I THINK IT'S HAPPENED ONCE. BUT THAT WAS A CONTROVERSIAL THING.
[7) New business]
SO OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? MAYBE THE DATE OF OUR NEXT MEETING? SEE NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER 24TH 24TH. OKAY. MONDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING, RIGHT? YEAH. MONDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING. I WILL BE SORRY ABOUT THAT. I TOLD THEM THAT THAT WAS MY SON CALLING FROM CALIFORNIA. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. AND YOU'RE BOTH PLANNING ON BEING IN TOWN THAT WEEK? YES. OKAY. WE'RE IN TOWN. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. FREE TO GO