Jan 26, 2026 Board of Zoning Appeals

[1) Call to order and roll call.]

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MR.. BRANDT AND MR.. ANDREWS. LAST NAME? ANDREWS.

OKAY. I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR FIRST NAME. THANK YOU, MR. ANDREWS AND MR. HAHN. UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T BE HERE.

HE'S TRAVELING BACK FROM DOWN SOUTH AND GOT CAUGHT IN THE WEATHER.

OKAY, NOW WE ALWAYS OPEN.

LET ME GET YOUR. AND, MR. BROWN, IF I MAY JUST BRIEFLY WITH I JUST WANT TO LET THE APPLICANTS KNOW WITH ONLY TWO PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, EACH DECISION WOULD HAVE TO BE UNANIMOUS.

SO IF YOU WANT TO BUMP IT TO A DATE WHERE WE HAVE ALL THREE PEOPLE HERE, THAT IS COMPLETELY WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT HAS TO BE A20 VOTE TONIGHT FOR A YES.

SO JUST BACKGROUND, MR. SMITH, MAY I AMEND SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST SAID? IF WE WERE TO TURN IT DOWN WITH A TIE, A TIE VOTE, I THINK YOU CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.

IS THAT RIGHT OR NOT? THEORETICALLY, YOU COULD DO A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, BUT LET'S NOT GO THERE UNLESS WE HAVE TO. OKAY. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO. BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPTION IF YOU WANTED TO.

OKAY. I'M SORRY I. OKAY. NORMALLY OUR THIRD ITEM OF BUSINESS SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR, WOULD BE THE NOMINATION AND ELECTION OF A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

HOWEVER, SINCE WE ONLY HAVE TWO MEETINGS TWO MEMBERS PRESENT TONIGHT I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE WERE TO DELAY THE VOTE ON THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR TO FEBRUARY OR FEBRUARY OR OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICHEVER HAPPENS.

SO I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE ELECTIONS UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING.

AND ALSO WELL, WE'LL DO THAT FIRST. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. MR. GRANT? YES. AND MR. ANDREWS? YES. OKAY, THEN THE SECOND MOTION I THINK WE NEED IS I HAVE BEEN THE VICE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS. SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT I OR MAKE A MOTION THAT I BE PERMITTED TO ACT AS THE VICE CHAIR FOR THIS MEETING TONIGHT.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MR. ANDREWS. YES, MR. BRANDT? YES. OKAY. WITH THAT THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO THE NEXT ITEM IS

[4) Approve the minutes from the December 22 meeting. ]

I'LL MOVE THAT. WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 22ND MEETING AS SUBMITTED TO US BY THE SECRETARY, NOT BEING PRESENT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. YEAH. I SECOND, WE HAVE TO HAVE YOU.

OKAY. NO PROBLEM. I'LL SECOND THAT. MR. BRANDT.

YES, MR. ANDREWS? YES. OKAY, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE FIFTH ITEM ON OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS TO HEAR THE APPEAL OF

[5) Hear the appeal of Parks Davis, AIS Renovations Ltd. representing Debra Aljebary, property owner at 2811 Dennis Ln., (Parcel #040-002951) for a variance to Section 1137.08 (h): To exceed the maximum height for a garage of 13’, by 1’ for a total of 14’ height from grade. ]

I'M NOT CERTAIN HOW TO PRONOUNCE IT AS A PROPERTY OWNER AT 2811 DENNIS LANE, PARCEL NUMBER 040002951. FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1137 .08 H TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR A GARAGE OF 13FT BY ONE FOOT, FOR A TOTAL OF 14FT HEIGHT FROM GRADE. MR.

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OH, I FORGOT, THAT'S MY FAULT. ALL RIGHT, ALL ANYONE THAT'S GOING TO TESTIFY TONIGHT.

RISE. AND YOU'LL ALL BE SWORN IN BY MR. BOZO.

JUST RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

OR JUST WITH I. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. OKAY, MR. DAVIS, WE'LL LET YOU PRESENT YOUR OKAY ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE A CARPORT THAT IS FILLED WITH THREE MOTORCYCLES, SNOW BLOWERS, A GRILL AND ETC.

AND I WAS CONTRACTED TO BUILD A NEW GARAGE IN THE REAR.

AND THAT GARAGE IS 24 BY 28FT. AND WHEN WE YOU'LL NOTICE IT CALLS FOR A 512 PITCH.

NOW ON THAT GARAGE RIGHT THERE. HERE'S WHERE WE RAN INTO A SITUATION.

THE FALL OF THAT LAND. IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS SIDE OUT OF THE ACTUAL EARTH PRODUCT.

I HAD ONE EXTRA COURSE OF BLOCK ADDED TO THAT FOUNDATION, WHICH IN TURN THREW AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT INCHES.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE SILL PLATE IS AN INCH AND 5/8.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY APPROXIMATELY TEN INCHES HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY MEANT TO BE.

BUT THAT'S THE PRODUCT. SO THE BUILDING IS ALREADY COMPLETED.

IT'S BUILT OKAY. IT'S DONE. LIKE IT'S ALL ELECTRIFIED.

ALL THE INSPECTIONS HAVE BEEN DONE EXCEPT FOR THE VERY FINAL WHICH OBVIOUSLY WHEN JUSTIN WAS THERE IN FACT, I WAS THERE THE OTHER DAY AND MEASURED IT, AND IT'S JUST A HAIR UNDER 14.

OKAY. AND THE REASON YOU HAD TO DO THIS WAS BECAUSE OF AN ELEVATION OF THE LAND.

YEAH. IF I WOULD HAVE HELD IT DOWN ONE MORE INCH, EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT AT SURFACE LEVEL ON THIS SIDE.

SO I ELECTED AND I PAID THE EXTRA MONEY TO HAVE ONE EXTRA COURSE OF BLOCK ADDED TO IT.

OKAY. OKAY. MR. ANDREWS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. MR. BARROSO, I HAVE A QUESTION.

WERE THE NEIGHBORS NOTIFIED, AND DID ANY OF THEM OBJECT IF THEY YES.

ALL THE NEIGHBORS WERE NOTIFIED, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE BACK.

OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THAT BEING THE CASE, THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE THE VARIANCE TO THE PROPERTY AT 2811 DENNIS LANE, PARCEL NUMBER 040002951 FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1137 .08 H TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR A GARAGE OF 13FT BY ONE FOOT, FOR A TOTAL OF 14FT HEIGHT FROM GRADE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON YOUR PART? MR.. YES, SIR. AND I HAVE NO DISCUSSION, SO I'LL ASK MR. BOZO TO CALL THE QUESTION. MR. BRANDT. YES, MR. ANDREWS? YES. OKAY. YOUR THE VARIANCE IS APPROVED.

NOW, YOU SHOULD BE MADE AWARE, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE ALREADY COMPLETED THE BUILDING.

THE COUNCIL HAS A RIGHT TO REVIEW THIS WITHIN A MONTH, AND THEY CAN OVERTURN OUR DECISION IF THEY SO DESIRE.

I UNDERSTAND. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S APPROVED BY US.

AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO LEAVE IF YOU LIKE. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE NEXT IF I COVERED UP MY PAGE.

DID I DO WITH THAT? I DO HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN. IF I COVERED IT, I COVERED UP THE PAGE WITH THE.

OH, HERE IT IS. I TURNED IT OVER. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS TO HEAR THE APPEAL OF SALLY TOTH,

[6) Hear the appeal of Sally Toth, property owner at 3311 Voeller Ave., (Parcel #040- 000384), for the following variances to Section 1137.05.]

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THAT'S THE FIRST. SHOULD WE TAKE TESTIMONY ON JUST ONE, OR CAN WE DO BOTH? BOTH. OKAY. AND THEN THE SECOND VARIANCE THAT'S BEING ASKED IS TO INSTALL A FENCE ON A CORNER LOT WITH A 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ALONG DUDLEY AVENUE, ENCROACHING THE NON-CONFORMING SETBACK OF 11FT BY 11FT FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF ZERO FEET. OKAY. MR. TOTH. HI. YEAH. SALLY TOTH, PROPERTY OWNER AT 3311 BOULDER AVENUE. AS YOU CAN TELL, WE ALREADY HAVE A. IT'S BEEN THERE PROBABLY 20 OR 30 YEARS FROM AS FAR AS WE CAN SEE BACK ON GOOGLE MAPS.

A EXISTING FOUR FOOT WHITE VINYL PICKET FENCE.

IT'S OLD. IT'S NO LONGER REPAIRABLE. WE WOULD LIKE TO UPGRADE IT TO A SOLID WHITE VINYL FIVE FOOT FENCE.

THE TOP, ROUGHLY FOOT OF IT WOULD BE A A BEAUTIFUL LATTICE TYPE, SEE THROUGH.

AND SHOULD NOT IMPEDE ANY TRAFFIC. MOTORISTS PEOPLE.

SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. OKAY. AS FAR AS THE SECOND ITEM WHERE YOU HAVE THE FRONT SETBACK ALONG DUDLEY AVENUE THAT WILL NOT BLOCK, OTHER TRAFFIC THAT IS FLOWING ALONG DUDLEY WHEN THEY COME BY YOUR. CORRECT. YEAH. WE ARE WE ARE UP ON A BIT OF A HILL AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE.

AND THEN THERE'S STILL ABOUT 7 TO 8 FOOT BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE FENCE.

SO EVEN IF IT'S A ZERO FOOT, THERE'S ACTUALLY STILL THAT 7 TO 8FT BACK FROM THE ROAD.

OKAY. MR. ANDREWS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS TOSH? THE FENCE IS GOING BACK IN THE SAME LOCATION.

YES, EXACTLY THE SAME. YES. OKAY. ARE THERE GATES? THERE'S TWO GATES. SO ONE. ONE THAT COMES OFF THAT ARBOR AND THEN THE OTHER TOWARDS THE GARAGE.

OKAY. NO. NO MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY.

WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THEN I'LL GO AHEAD.

MR. SMITH, SHOULD I MAKE SEPARATE MOTIONS FOR EACH OF THE TWO ITEMS? IT IS COMPLETELY WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION, SIR.

YOU COULD DO THEM TOGETHER, OR YOU COULD DO THEM SEPARATELY. I'LL JUST DO THEM TOGETHER, THEN. THANK YOU. THIS IS TO APPROVE A VARIANCE OR TWO VARIANCES FOR THE PROPERTY AT 3311 WOOLWORTH AVENUE, PARCEL NUMBER 040000384 FOR THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES TO SECTION 1137 .05. THE FIRST VARIANCE WOULD BE TO REPLACE AN EXISTING 48 INCH WHITE PICKET FENCE WITH A 60 INCH TALL, PARTIALLY SOLID FENCE WITH 12IN OF LATTICE AT THE TOP, IN THE SAME LOCATION OF AN OLDER FENCE ON A NON-CONFORMING LOT. THAT'S THE FIRST VARIANCE.

THE SECOND VARIANCE IS TO INSTALL A FENCE ON A CORNER LOT WITH A 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ALONG DUDLEY AVENUE, ENCROACHING THE NON-CONFORMING SETBACK OF 11FT BY 11FT FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF ZERO FEET.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

MR. BOSO COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE? MR. ANDREWS? YES, MR. BRANDT. YES. IT'S CARRIED. SO AGAIN, I HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE SAME WARNING. ANYONE IN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY HAS A RIGHT TO APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO OVERTURN A VARIANCE GRANTED BY THIS BOARD. SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT AT LEAST 30 DAYS TO DO THE WORK.

OKAY. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD WITH THE SNOW. I DOUBT IF YOU COULD WORK ANYWAY.

SO YOUR MOTION OR YOUR VARIANCES, BOTH OF THEM HAVE BEEN GRANTED.

FEEL FREE TO LEAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN.

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[7) Hear the appeal of Cindy Tucker, property owner at 5886 Platinum Dr. (Parcel #040-012521), for a variance to Section (Table) 1135.10: To encroach the 25’ rear yard setback by 4’, with a deck, for a total rear yard setback of 21’. ]

SURE. SO THERE IS AN EXISTING DECK THERE. WHEN WE JUST BOUGHT IT, WE BOUGHT IN THE END OF THE SUMMER, AND IT'S A MUCH BIGGER DECK AND IT'S FALLING APART.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SMALLER DECK ON IT. AND IT'S ACTUALLY FOUR FEET SHORTER FROM THE BACKYARD.

NEIGHBORS ALREADY. SO WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE UNTIL THEY CAME OUT.

YEAH. SO IT'LL LOOK LIKE THAT. IT'LL BE THE COMPOSITE DECKING.

IT WON'T BE WOOD. IT WON'T FALL APART. IT'S GOT THE RAILING, IT'LL HAVE SOLAR LIGHTS AND IT'LL MATCH OUR, OUR FENCE. SO IT DOES COME OUT FOR EXTRA FEET FROM WHAT THE, THE LAW SAYS, BUT IT'S STILL LIKE FOUR FEET SHORTER THAN THE EXISTING DECK.

AND THAT EXISTING DECK IS BEEN THERE SINCE I THINK OH SIX.

OKAY. SO SO REALLY YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE SMALLER IN SIZE.

BUT YOU STILL NEED TO HAVE US GRANT YOU A VARIANCE.

MR. ANDREWS, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

OKAY, OKAY, THEN I WILL MOVE THAT THE VARIANCE TO 5886 PLATINUM DRIVE. PARCEL NUMBER 040012521 FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION TABLE 11. 35.10 TO ENCROACH THE 75 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK BY FOUR FEET WITH A DECK FOR A TOTAL REAR YARD SETBACK OF 21FT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE AS AN ITEM OF DISCUSSION, THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE SMALLER IN THE SETBACK IS ACTUALLY FOUR FEET SMALLER THAN THE EXISTING, WHICH I THINK NEEDS TO BE ON THE RECORD.

YOU SAID THAT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IT'S ON THE RECORD.

SO WE HAVE THE MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. SO MR. BOZO, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? MR. BRANDT? YES.

AND MR. ANDREWS. YES. OKAY. I THINK THE NEIGHBORS WERE ALL NOTIFIED, TOO.

OH, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE.

AND AS OF FRIDAY, LAURA SAID NOBODY. I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T ASK THAT. NO, BUT I, I DID NOTE THAT THE IN THE MINUTES BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE CORNER.

SO THEY HAD TO GO. OH I FORGOT TO DO ONE THING THOUGH.

I THINK IT'S ON YOURS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE. YOU HAVE TO DO THE WORK WITHIN 12 MONTHS.

CONSTRUCTION HAS TO BEGIN WITHIN 12 MONTHS. SO IF IT'S OKAY.

MR. ANDREW, I WANT TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL MOTION BY ADDING THAT CONDITION.

AND I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT CONDITION.

SO MR.. SO SORRY TO MAKE YOU SECOND AMENDMENT.

SECOND. SECOND. I'M SORRY. I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT HE MOVED IN SECOND, MR. BRANDT. YES. MR. ANDREWS? YES. OKAY. YEAH. AS SOON AS THE WEATHER'S NICE, HE'LL BE OUT.

OKAY. AFTER 30 DAYS. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO WAIT AGAIN.

IF SOMEONE FROM THE CITY WISHES TO CHALLENGE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SO WITHIN 30 DAYS. BUT.

AND THEN YOU NEED TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.

YES WE WILL. OKAY. OR NOT THE NEXT. I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT.

12 MONTHS. I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. YEP. OKAY, OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS NEW BUSINESS.

[8) New business ]

OKAY. LAURA TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS NOTHING IN EITHER.

I MAY HAVE A CONFLICT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I ASKED A QUESTION.

LAURA. LAST FRIDAY. OKAY. OKAY. THEN WE'LL JUST ADJOURN.

AND WE NORMALLY DON'T VOTE ON ADJOURNMENT. WE JUST ADJOURN.

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