Apr 06, 2026 City Council

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IS NOW IN SESSION. WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? AMEN. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. TAMMY, PLEASE READ THE ROLL. MR. OMAR, PRESENT. ANDERSON. INGA BERRY HERE. HOLT. STURM HERE. UROS HERE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE. DO I HAVE TO MAKE SEPARATE ONES? NO. TO EXCUSE RANDY AND THE MAYOR FROM THE MEETING. SECOND. OMAR. YES.

ANDERSON. YES. YES. YES YES, YES. I HAVE A SET OF MINUTES BEFORE US. I MOVE THEY BE

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[Welcome & Reading of Agenda]

[Ordinance C-08-26 Approve the Use for an Indoor Kids Play Facility for Little Diggers Play Space located at 4076 Hoover Road. Second reading and public hearing. ]

ANY ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE AGE RANGES YOU TARGET? JUST CURIOUS.

SEVEN AND UNDER IS THE FOCUS FOR THE AGES? YES. IS IT OUTSIDE AT ALL? ANY OUTSIDE ACTIVITIES? IT'S ALL INDOOR. YEP. RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? YOU GOT TO TAKE YOUR GRANDKIDS IN ORDER TO GO, RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE FUN, RIGHT? OKAY. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MOVE IT BE APPROVED. SECOND.

MALINGA. YES. BARRY. YES. YES. YES. OMAR. YES. ANDERSON. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOKING

[Ordinance C-11-26 Accept the Plat for Farmstead, Phase 8. Second reading and public hearing. ]

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[Ordinance C-13-26 Accept the Annexation of 0.505 acres located at 2332 White Road. First reading.]

HI THERE. GIVE US YOUR YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. 2332 WHITE ROAD, GROVE CITY, OHIO 43123.

OKAY. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. OF COURSE I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, SO BEAR WITH ME HERE.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET ANNEXED IN FOR THE SAKE OF ACCESSING CITY UTILITIES, SPECIFICALLY CITY SEWER. SO WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT THE EPA HAS DECLINED BECAUSE WE'RE WITHIN 200FT OF A SEWER MAIN, LEAVING THIS OUR ONLY OPTION FOR FLUSHING TOILETS. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. I HAVE NOT. HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED AT THIS ADDRESS? WE HAVE ONLY LIVED HERE. JUNE WILL BE THREE YEARS. THREE YEARS? YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY, SO THIS IS THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS FIRST READING, AND THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE ON APRIL THE 20TH. AND THAT, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IS ALL I HAVE UNDER LANDS THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, YOU. NEXT. THE NEXT MEETING IS WHEN THE ACTUAL VOTE WILL HAPPEN. OKAY? OKAY. CALL ME BACK. SOME PEOPLE DO. SOME PEOPLE DO. YOU SHALL RETURN. MR. MR. MR. FOR THE PURPOSES OF

[Ordinance C-14-26 Appropriate $1,142,950.96 from the County Permissive Motor Vehicle License Fund for the Current Expense of the 2026 Street Maintenance Program and the McDowell Road Project. First reading.]

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THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP WITH OPEN CARRY, WHICH ARE LEGALLY PERMITTED TO DO. THEY GOT REALLY CLOSE TO THE EVENT ORGANIZERS, WHICH WAS UNACCEPTABLE. AND WHAT OUR POLICY IS, IS TO PUSH PROTESTERS OR COUNTER PROTESTERS, IN THIS CASE EVENT ORGANIZERS AND PROTESTERS, AND HAVE A BUFFER ZONE WHICH IS PERFECTLY PERMISSIBLE AND LEGALLY SOUND TO DO, AND WE ENFORCE OUR LAWS. I MET WITH THE ORGANIZERS. I MET WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE AND PRESENT AND WAS UPSET, AND I AGREED WITH THEM THAT THAT WAS

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SOME WANTED US TO INVESTIGATE AN ASSAULT. SO WE ALSO CONSULTED WITH THE LAW DIRECTOR AND SPOKE TO HIM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ACCURATE. TO SAY THAT THAT'S NOT AN ASSAULT IN OHIO. AND DURING THAT MEETING, WE WERE ASKED TO HAVE A MORE VISIBLE PRESENCE DURING THE NO KINGS. THERE WAS NO ISSUES. THERE WAS NO PROTEST. THERE WAS NO CALLS FOR SERVICE ASIDE FROM THE THE TRUCK THAT WAS BEING OBNOXIOUS AND INTENTIONALLY DUMPING BLACK SMOKE INTO THE CROWD. SO FOR THIS THIRD EVENT, WE DID PRECISELY THAT. WE ADDED SOME EXTRA STAFFING. WE HAD FOUR OFFICERS THAT WERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR PURPOSES OF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND MAKING SURE THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE PUBLIC WAS SAFE DURING THIS EVENT, TWO OF THEM WERE CALLED AWAY FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION, BUT TWO OF THEM REMAINED AND THEY STOPPED A COUPLE CARS DURING THE EVENT. WHILE THAT WAS HAPPENING, WE GOT A SEPARATE CALL FOR SERVICE THAT SOME KIDS WERE PUSHING THROUGH THE CROWD AND BEING A PROBLEM, AND THE OFFICERS WENT TO INVESTIGATE DURING THAT. YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THE VIDEO FOOTAGE, BUT THERE WAS AN INTERACTION BETWEEN A PERSON USING AMPLIFIED SOUND AND ONE OF OUR SERGEANTS. THE SERGEANT HAD RECEIVED INSTRUCTIONS AFTER I MET WITH THE ORGANIZERS IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS THAT I GAVE WERE LEAN TOWARDS ZERO TOLERANCE AND THE PURPOSE OF THOSE INSTRUCTIONS AND THE INTENT BEHIND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS, IS WHEN PEOPLE'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ARE INFRINGED, OR THE PERCEPTION IS THERE THAT THAT IS NOT GOOD AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN EMOTIONAL EVENT. AND WE KNOW THIS AND RECOGNIZE THIS, AND WE ARE THERE TO MAINTAIN LAW AND ORDER. SO WHEN I SAID LEAN TOWARDS ZERO TOLERANCE, THAT WAS A MISTAKE ON MY PART. I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED THAT BECAUSE WE STILL ALLOW AND AFFORD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. IT'S IN OUR POLICY. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. BUT THE MISUNDERSTANDING WAS BASED ON MY WORK INSTRUCTIONS LIKE, OKAY, IF YOU'RE HAVING SOME NONSENSE TAKING PLACE DURING THESE EVENTS, LEAN TOWARDS ENFORCEMENT, SUCH AS THE BLACK SMOKE. SO THE SERGEANT. THIS IS A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE AND GOAL SETTING. WE WE SAY WHAT WE DO AND WE DO WHAT WE SAY. SO WHEN I GIVE INSTRUCTIONS, THE SERGEANT'S INTEND TO FOLLOW THAT. SO SOME HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE USE OF DISCRETION. WELL, YOU CAN BE UPSET WITH ME.

IT WAS MY INSTRUCTIONS. THEY WEREN'T CLEAR. AND THE OFFICERS DID EXACTLY WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. I WOULD BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY CALLS FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THAT, OR ON ANY ISSUES AT ANY TIME. ONE LAST THING THAT WAS A CONCERN WAS THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT RESPONDED. SO I WANT TO PLAY A SHORT AUDIO CLIP JUST TO KIND OF GET SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SENSE OF WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE. SO THE OFFICERS SAID THAT THEY WERE OUT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL. THEY DID A CHECK UP ON THE OFFICER THAT SAID THAT HE DIDN'T ANSWER, BUT ANOTHER OFFICER SHOWED UP WHO ACTUALLY WAS CHECKING ON THE SERGEANTS AND OFFICERS TYPICALLY HANDLE PAPERWORK AND THE SERGEANTS LEAVE SO THEY CAN MANAGE OTHER CALLS FOR SERVICE. AND SO THE BACKUP OFFICER SAYS, I'M, I'M HERE WITH THEM. THEY'RE OKAY. THEY GET THEY GET OUT WITH THEM.

THEN I WANT YOU TO HEAR THIS AUDIO. IT'S NOT BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO DISCERN WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. IT'S JUST I WANT YOU TO HEAR THE TONE. SO DON'T TRY TO DON'T TRY TO HEAR EXACTLY WHAT'S SAID, BUT JUST YOU'LL HEAR NORMAL RADIO TRAFFIC. AND THEN I'M GOING TO PLAY A, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT LONGER SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS UNFOLDED. 374229. ROBINSON 1961 96. CHECK UP 19965778174. GO AHEAD. AVAILABLE UNITS ARE FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA 155 17557. WERE

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AS I WAS A FEW FEET AWAY FROM THE ENTIRE INCIDENT, I ALSO HAPPENED TO BE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO RECORDED THE MAJORITY OF THE INCIDENT. SEEING YOUNG TEENS PRESENT AT A NO KINGS PROTEST, SHOVING PEOPLE, SHOUTING DEPORT ALL IMMIGRANTS, AND THEN ALSO WATCHING GROCERY DIVISION OF POLICE COME IN NUMBERS TO RESPOND TO AN INDIVIDUAL WITH A MEGAPHONE WAS VERY CONCERNING TO ME, AND TO SEE THAT THE SITUATION HAD ESCALATED SO QUICKLY, IT ALMOST FELT AS THOUGH THERE WASN'T NECESSARILY A FOCUS ON TRYING TO DE-ESCALATE THIS. AND THAT WAS JUST SOLELY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S HOW THE OFFICERS INTENDED TO EXECUTE WHATEVER JOB THEY HAVE TO DO THAT DAY, BUT I JUST WISH THAT THE FOCUS IN THAT MOMENT WAS, HOW COULD WE DE-ESCALATE THE SITUATION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE? PEOPLE ARE UPSET. THERE'S A CROWD STARTING TO FORM. WHAT CAN WE DO TO TRY TO DEFUZE THE SITUATION? I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE YOUNG INDIVIDUALS.

HOWEVER, THEY WERE ALSO CAUSING A MUCH BIGGER DISTURBANCE AT A VERY, VERY PEACEFUL PROTEST.

YEAH. CAN I ANSWER THOSE AS WE GO ALONG? AND IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, PLEASE.

BUT DON'T ASK. DON'T EXPECT THIS OLD GUY TO REMEMBER EXACTLY EVERYTHING HE JUST SAID, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS FIRST OF ALL, WITH THE YOUNG PEOPLE. WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE VIDEO THAT YOU HAVE. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY VICTIMS WHO HAVE IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS A VICTIM OF A CRIME. SO LEGAL CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU AS WELL. WE CAN'T ACT UNLESS WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT REPORTS A CRIME TO THE POLICE, UNLESS WE SEE SOMETHING THAT'S DISORDERLY IN NATURE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE WERE NOT THERE FOR THAT. SO BUT YOUR VIDEO STILL MAY HELP US, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE CASE IN CASE SOMEBODY DOES COME FORWARD. THEN YOUR SECOND QUESTION, WHAT WAS YOUR SECOND QUESTION? WAS MORE OF AN ONGOING COMMENT DE ESCALATION. OKAY, SO YES, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

ACTUALLY, I, I FAILED TO SAY THAT, BUT THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE SITUATION WERE JUST UNFORTUNATE. IT WAS ALMOST LIKE THE PERFECT STORM OF BAD BEHAVIORS THAT LED TO OR BAD ISSUES THAT LED TO PROBLEMS FOR, FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE OFFICER DID THINK THAT THEY HAD SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS THAT THEY HAD TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT SO THAT THAT THAT'S ONE ISSUE. SO THERE'S NO I'M GOING TO WRITE YOU A TICKET IF YOU WATCH THE VIDEO. THEY WAS VERY CORDIAL. IT WAS VERY PROFESSIONAL THE ENTIRE TIME. IN FACT, I THINK MR. LEONARD FOR SAYING IT PUBLICLY AND SAYING THEY TREATED ME WITH RESPECT AND COURTESY THE WHOLE TIME. HE, HE, HE GOT A LITTLE BIT UPSET, USED PROFANITY AND DIDN'T WANT TO STEP OVER TO WHERE THE OFFICERS WERE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND THE INTENT BEHIND THAT IS SO THAT

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JODY. HI, JEAN SCOTT, THANKS AGAIN FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME IN AND TALK TO COUNCIL AND ADDRESS THE CONCERNS FROM FROM THE EVENT. I GUESS MY IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT, NOT NECESSARY QUESTIONS. I GUESS THE COMBINATION OF BOTH. I REALLY LIKE TO FOR US TO BE PROACTIVE GOING FORWARD. YOU MENTIONED THE 2024 PRIDE INCIDENT AND THEN YOU MENTIONED ONE FROM LAST FALL, I BELIEVE OCTOBER. THE SECOND ONE I MENTIONED THE 2024 PRIDE. AND THEN I TALKED ABOUT NO KINGS AND WE'VE HAD NO ISSUES AT THE NO KINGS. I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT 2025. OKAY.

YOU JUST MENTIONED THIS WAS THE THIRD ONE. THE THIRD PROTEST. WELL, I THINK THEY'RE ON THEIR THIRD. OKAY. THEY JUST HAD THEIR THIRD. THEY HAVE ONE IN MARCH. I THINK THEY HAVE ONE IN OCTOBER. DON'T DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE DATES. BUT AND THEN THEY JUST HAD THE THE ONE THAT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN. SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, BEING MORE PROACTIVE AFTER THIS, THERE SEEMS TO BE CONFUSION, LIKE MR. OMAR SAID ABOUT THE ORDINANCE, HOW CAN WE AS A CITY BETTER DEFINE OR PUBLISH WHAT THOSE. EVEN THOUGH YOU DO MEET WITH THE ORGANIZERS. SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION ON CONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT. I MEAN, WE DON'T ENFORCE CODE. THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO JUST I WOULD RATHER INSTEAD OF BEING CONTINUES TO BE REACTIVE, HOW CAN WE BE MORE PROACTIVE MOVING FORWARD? YES. YOU'RE SPEAKING MY LANGUAGE. WHEN THERE'S A WHEN THERE'S AN ISSUE OR A FAILURE, IT USUALLY COMES DOWN TO TWO THINGS, EITHER A SYSTEMS OR A SUPERVISORY FAILURE. SO IN THIS SITUATION, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR SYSTEMS. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T FRUSTRATED, THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE AMPLIFIED SOUND, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE REASON OR THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BLOCK TRAFFIC OR WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS, HOW CAN WE COMMUNICATE THAT OUT? SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY ON THAT. BUT WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE AND WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT FROM THE MAYOR AND DOWN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND TO ME THAT

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SO WE DID STAFF A COUPLE EXTRA AND THEY WORKED WITH US ON THE TIME DURING SHIFT CHANGE. SO I WANT TO THANK THE ORGANIZERS FOR THAT PIECE OF IT. AND, AND THAT THAT'S THE PROCESS, RIGHT? THANK YOU. I THINK IF WE CAN FOLLOW THAT PROCESS GOING FORWARD AND GETTING CONTINUE TO LEARN, I THINK THE TRANSPARENCY IS GOOD. AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT TRUST WITH OUR RESIDENTS, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. AND CONSISTENT APPLICATION OF THE LAW. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE DETERMINED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO. AND IT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, APOLOGIZE FOR THE 2024 INCIDENT. AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. CHIEF SCOTT, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSPARENCY AND BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE CALLS. I MEAN, AS YOU HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU'VE ALREADY FIELDED A LOT OF CALLS AND YOU'RE STILL WILLING TO TAKE THOSE CALLS. SO JUST AS MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS HOW WILLING AND OPEN YOU ARE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL OF THAT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP TODAY EXPLAINING THE SITUATION. AND THANK YOU FOR HEADING UP A REALLY GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT. I TALKED TO A LOT OF FOLKS AND OTHER CITIES, AND I THINK THAT YOU AND YOUR PATROLMEN AND LIEUTENANTS AND TOTAL STAFF DO A GREAT JOB. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR KEEPING US SAFE. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WORKED A LONG TIME IN OTHER FORMS OF GOVERNMENT. AND OF COURSE, I HAVE SOME BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE AND IN WHAT YOU AND WHAT YOU DO AND EVERYTHING. SO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU CAME HERE TODAY, THANK YOU, THE FACT THAT YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU'RE HUMAN AND MAKE MISTAKES. THANK YOU. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'VE HEARD SO MANY THINGS AND I'M NOT CHASTISING OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT SO OFTEN PEOPLE PUT SO MUCH EFFORT IN TO DEFENDING WHAT WAS WRONG. INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WENT WRONG, THIS WAS OUR FAULT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER AND, AND, AND FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, GUYS, ANY OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT I'VE EVER BEEN AROUND THAT SAYS, HEY, WE MADE SOME MISTAKES AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO BETTER.

SO I MEAN, I, I, I KNOW THAT MESSAGE WILL NOT RESONATE OUT OF THIS ROOM PROBABLY THAT WE HAD OUR POLICE CHIEF COME IN AND, AND SAY, HEY, WE MADE SOME MISTAKES AND WE WANT TO DO BETTER. AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE. BUT I MEAN, THAT THAT IS I WOULD THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR FOR DOING THAT. THAT MEANS A LOT. I MEAN, THE FACT THAT WE SEE ALL THIS HORRIBLE STUFF HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, BAD, BAD THINGS HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, WITH AND I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION THE AGENCIES. WE DON'T NEED TO GO THERE AND EVERYTHING, BUT AND MISTAKES ARE MADE. IT'S, IT'S SO MUCH EASIER IN LIFE JUST TO ADMIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE AND TRY TO WORK TOWARDS CORRECTING IT AND TRY TO WORK TOWARDS REGAINING TRUST AND EVERYTHING. SO I'M JUST VERY APPRECIATIVE. I MEAN, I'VE NEVER HEARD THIS BEFORE AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO THANK KEVIN AND ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR COMING FORTH AND REALIZING THE MISTAKES AND KNOWING WHAT YOU WANT TO CORRECT. SO ABSOLUTELY, COMMUNICATION IS ALWAYS A BARRIER AND OR AN ISSUE THAT WE FIND TO BE A PROBLEM. AND, AND THE MISTAKES REST WITH ME. I DO WANT TO SUPPORT THE, THE OFFICERS THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE FRONT LINE. IT'S A VERY TOUGH JOB. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. AND I THINK THEY DID GREAT IN BOTH POSITIONS IN BOTH SITUATIONS. ALTHOUGH AT THE END WE SAY NO, WE'RE GOING TO TELL

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THE CITIZENS LOVE US AND WE LOVE OUR CITIZENS. AND WHEN WE FORGET THAT OR LOSE SIGHT OF THAT, OR WE BECOME SELF-SERVING, THAT'S WHEN IT BECOMES A PROBLEM. AND UNDER MY WATCH, THAT'S MY INTENTION, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT GOING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. EVAN, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THE PUBLIC HAS YOUR THE CHIEF'S HERE. YOU CAN GO OUT IN THE HALLWAY AND TALK TO HIM IF YOU'D LIKE. I'M SURE HE'D. HE'S DONE IT FOR HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS. SO HE'S MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR ANYBODY THAT'S PRESENT OR ANYBODY THAT'S ONLINE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I BELIEVE IT'S ANDREA OR ANDREW.

ANDREW. OH PLEASE. ANDREW, CAN YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS WHEN YOU GET TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? I'M I DON'T WANT TO RISK. OKAY. IT'S UKRAINIAN. MY NAME IS ANDREW OLESZCZUK. I LIVE AT 2001 CANDLENUT CIRCLE GROVE CITY, OHIO 43123. OKAY. AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. I CAME TO THE LAST MEETING TO SPEAK ON THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS POSED BY THE PROPOSED INSTALLATION OF A DATA CENTER NEAR GROVE CITY. THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO LIST ALL THE STUDIED IMPACTS IN JUST THREE MINUTES. SO I'M HERE TO CONTINUE, AND HOPEFULLY I DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. AND BORE YOU. IN A RECENT REPORT FROM COLUMBUS, NBC4, THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE SERVICES, RICHARD KLEIN, STATED THAT SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH RISKS ARE POSED TO THOSE WHO LIVE WITHIN A HALF MILE OF DATA CENTERS, ALTHOUGH RANGE AND SEVERITY OF THAT RISK DOES INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN IN RANGE OF MULTIPLE DATA CENTERS. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO MENTION THAT COLUMBUS HAS OVER 130 NOW. SPECIFICALLY, KLEIN STATED THAT AIR POLLUTION FROM DATA CENTERS RELEASES INHALABLE MICRO SILICATE PARTICLES AND NITROGEN DIOXIDE IN DANGEROUS AMOUNTS, POLLUTANTS THAT THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH STATES AS THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF BETWEEN 100,000 AND 200,000 PREMATURE DEATHS A YEAR AS A RESULT OF ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENTALLY INDUCED LUNG DAMAGE. I APOLOGIZE, I DROVE EIGHT HOURS BEFORE THIS.

SHIRLEY GROVE CITY DOES NOT NEED TO ADD ANOTHER DATA CENTER TO THE PILE. IN ADDITION TO THE PROBLEM THAT OHIO ALREADY HAS, OHIOANS STATEWIDE ARE MAKING THEMSELVES CLEAR. WE'VE MADE NATIONAL NEWS FOR IT IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WITH A STATEWIDE EFFORT TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON THE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF THESE DATA CENTERS. I BRING THIS UP NOT BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO BE A STICK IN THE MUD ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT BECAUSE THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IS SO NEW, AND WHEN A DEVELOPMENT OR INDUSTRY IS NEW, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE MISS. WE SAW IT WITH A PESTICIDE I BELIEVE WAS CALLED DHT. WE SAW IT WITH CHLOROFLUOROCARBONS. AND RIGHT NOW WE ONLY KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS OF THESE DATA CENTERS AND THEIR EMISSIONS. IT'S LIKELY WE'RE GOING TO KNOW AS IT GOES ON, THAT THE EFFECTS WERE ACTUALLY WORSE THAN WE KNEW, BECAUSE THAT IS, UNFORTUNATELY, HOW ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTIGATION REGULATION TENDS TO GO IN THE UNITED STATES. I POSED THE QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL THAT THE PEOPLE OF GROVE CITY HAVE COME FORWARD IN LARGE NUMBERS. THERE ARE ALREADY PETITIONS BEING GATHERED STANDING AGAINST THIS, SAYING THEY DO NOT WANT IT. I HOPE THAT THE DECISION IS MADE TO REPRESENT GROVE CITY'S RESIDENTS AND NOT OUT OF TOWN SHAREHOLDERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. WE HAVE.

AGAIN, IS IT LORI? YES. IS IT LORI? PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD GET WHEN YOU GET TO THE PODIUM, IF YOU GIVE YOUR LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. MY NAME IS LORI DOBIS AND I LIVE AT 1252 EAGLE VIEW DRIVE, COLUMBUS, 43228. I'M REALLY HERE JUST TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THE WHY AND WHAT IT HAS MEANT TO ME. IN 2014, MY HUSBAND COMMITTED SUICIDE AND I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH PTSD AND ANXIETY. AND THROUGH MY THERAPY, SHE SUGGESTED THAT I GET MORE PHYSICAL EXERCISE TO HELP WITH THAT. SO I JOINED THE Y AND I JUST STARTED OUT JUST DOING LIKE GOING, DOING WEIGHTS. AND THEN I STARTED MEETING PEOPLE AND MAKING FRIENDS AND GOING TO

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SERVICES, FOR KIDS, FOR SENIORS. IT'S MULTI-GENERATIONAL, IT'S MULTICULTURAL, AND THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF, OF RUNNING IT. SO, AND LIKE I SAID, I'M, I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON WITH THAT KIND OF STORY. AND IT HAS GREATLY HELPED ME PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY. I'VE LOST 50 POUNDS. THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD. YES. WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. SURE. ALRIGHT. THAT

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CHECK ON THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR INCOME TAX. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

WHEN WOULD YOU GUYS BE PREPARED TO DO THAT? I MEAN HOW LONG DO YOU NEED TO PREPARE FOR WHENEVER WHENEVER YOU'RE YOU'RE READY. SO I'LL JUST ASK EVERYBODY, ARE YOU READY AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE COULD START AT 530 OR IS THAT OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS? SO, TAMMY. 530. NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT. THANK YOU. THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL AROUND AGAIN. DEPARTMENT HEADS, ANYBODY HAVE ANY UPDATES FOR THE COUNCIL? NOBODY IS RUSHING FORTH. JACK. GOOD EVENING. JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF AN EVENT THAT WE HAVE COMING UP ON SATURDAY, APRIL 11TH FROM 11 A.M. TO 1 P.M. AT BROOK PARK. AND THIS IS RED, WHITE AND VROOM. AND SO IT'LL BE AT BROOK PARK IS GOING TO FEATURE TRACTORS, FIRE TRUCKS, MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF CARS. JUST TO CELEBRATE OHIO'S MOBILITY SO PARTICIPANTS CAN REGISTER THEIR VEHICLES RIGHT NOW. AND WE EXPECT A LARGE CROWD. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. VERY NICE. THANK YOU. TAMMY. ANY BUSINESS THAT THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. WE DO HAVE A NEW ARTIST JUST CAME IN TODAY. BE HERE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. ARE THEY GROVE CITY, GROVE CITY MAN, ALL OF THESE BARNS ARE FROM EITHER GROVE CITY OR THE WEST SIDE OF COLUMBUS THAT ARE NO LONGER STANDING. OH, SO VERY NICE.

ENJOY WHILE IT'S HERE. THESE ARE NOT FOR SALE UNLESS YOU CAN BARTER WITH THE ARTIST. UNLESS THE PRICE IS RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT. NOTHING. THANK YOU.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO CLOSING COMMENTS, MISS BURROWS. THANK YOU, MR. BERRY. JUST A GENTLE REMINDER THAT OUR APRIL IS DISTRACTED DRIVING MONTH. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT MEANS STAY OFF OUR PHONES, PAY ATTENTION TO THE ROADS, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HERE IN GROVE CITY.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS THE WEATHER HAS GOTTEN WARMER MOST DAYS AND THE DAYS

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YEAH, I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GREAT EASTER. GET TO SPEND TIME WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY. THE ONLY THING I REALLY WANTED TO MENTION WAS I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE ARTEMIS TWO SPACECRAFT TODAY. IT STARTED. IT'S OH, SORRY, I DO TEND TO PROJECT ANYWAY, BUT YEAH, THE ARTEMIS TWO SPACECRAFT GOING AROUND GOING AROUND THE MOON STARTED AT 130, I THINK IT WAS THIS AFTERNOON. AND ACCORDING TO MY MY LITTLE TRACKER HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALMOST ALL THE WAY AROUND. SO THAT'S A, I MEAN, THINK ABOUT THE LAST TIME WE HAD WE HAD PEOPLE UP, UP THAT FAR OUT. ACTUALLY, I THINK THEY SET A RECORD FOR THE FARTHEST AWAY FROM FROM EARTH.

AND IT REALLY IS AMAZING. AND IT'S JUST A REMINDER OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER, INNOVATION. AND WE SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF THEM AND WISH THEM A SAFE JOURNEY HOME. SO, MR. ROEMER, YES, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY CONVERSATION THIS PAST SATURDAY. IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION. ONE OF MY GOALS WAS TO CREATE SPACE WHERE RESIDENTS CAN COME OUT AND FEEL HEARD AND TALK ABOUT ISSUES THAT MATTER MOST TO THEM. AND WE HAD A PRETTY DECENT TURNOUT, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FUTURE. MY GOAL IS TO MAKE IT A SERIES WHERE WE TRAVEL THROUGHOUT GROVE CITY AND HIT DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE WE CAN MEET AND TALK ABOUT WHAT MATTERS MOST TO YOU. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING THERE ON SATURDAY, MISS ANDERSON.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY CENTER WORK SESSIONS.

SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A WORK SESSION NOW AS AS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY THE 20TH AT 530. AS YOU JUST HEARD, THAT WILL COVER THE INCOME TAX CONVERSATION AND OTHER REVENUES THAT WE'D WANT TO CONSIDER IN AN INCOME TAX MEASURE FOR A BALLOT. SO THAT WILL BE THE EXTENT OF THE CONVERSATION, THE ANYTHING RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND FOLLOW UPS TO OUR LAST MEETING IN TERMS OF COMPARISONS AND Y INFORMATION VERSUS A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER, AND ALL OF THAT DETAILED INFORMATION NEEDS A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO COME TOGETHER FROM THE CONSULTING FIRM. SO WE ARE LIKELY LOOKING INTO JUNE, TENTATIVELY, JUNE 8TH FOR THAT FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION SPECIFIC TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THAT INFORMATION. WE WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO SAY THERE WOULDN'T BE A COMMUNITY CENTER CONVERSATION IN TWO WEEKS, BUT AS IT TURNS OUT, WE WILL STILL HAVE A WORK SESSION AT 530 TO SPECIFICALLY DISCUSS THE INCOME TAX FOR THE BALLOT. SO THANK YOU, MR. HELLINGA. WANT TO REITERATE THE RED, WHITE AND VROOM EVENT. THAT'S THIS SATURDAY OVER AT BROOK PARK. I'LL BE BRINGING A CAR TO TO THAT, BUT THAT'LL BE A FUN EVENT. AND IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO CELEBRATE AMERICA'S 250TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY. SO THAT'S A BIG DEAL. AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN PROUDER THAN I HAVE BEEN THIS WEEK WITH WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING ON A NATIONAL BASIS AND INTERNATIONAL BASIS.

I WAS I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN THE FIRST WALK ON THE MOON TOOK PLACE. AND MY GRANDMOTHER, STILL TO HER DYING DAY, DIDN'T THINK IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, THOUGHT IT WAS IN A STUDIO SOMEWHERE IN HOLLYWOOD. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO SEE US DOING THAT. IT MAKES ME PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. IT ALSO MAKES ME PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN THAT WE WOULD PAUSE MILITARY ACTIVITIES IN ORDER TO JUST LOOK FOR TWO INDIVIDUAL MEN THAT WERE SHOT DOWN AND RECOVERED. THAT'S VERY, VERY UNIQUE. I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER PRESIDENT, KING OR EMPEROR OVER HISTORY OR THIS THIS THIS TIME IN HISTORY THAT WE WOULD DO THAT AND BE SUCCESSFUL. AND I'M SO, SO PLEASED THAT THAT OCCURRED. AND I'VE NEVER BEEN THAT PROUD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THE WE'VE GOT OUR MEETINGS SET UP FOR THE FOR THE FOR NEXT WEEK AND ALSO IN JUNE AND EVERYTHING I DID WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL PROMO FOR OUR HISTORICAL SOCIETY. THEY HAVE A BRAND NEW BOOK, A BOOK OUT ABOUT GROVE CITY. AND IT'S ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOT BIG PRINT, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE YOU CAN

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