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CITY COUNCIL IS NOW IN SESSION. WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. FOR ALL. ALRIGHT, CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. ANDERSON HERE. INGA BERRY. HERE, HERE. HERE, HERE. MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM. WELL, THERE'S TWO SETS OF
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MINUTES. I KNOW THERE'D BE ONLY ONE SET A MINUTE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A REGULAR SPECIAL MEETING, SO APPROVE ONE SET OF MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. I NEED A SECOND. SECOND? OMAR. YES, ANDERSON. YES, YES YES YES YES, YES. OKAY. ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA UNDER LANCE, ORDINANCE C 1226,[Welcome & Reading of Agenda]
ORDINANCE C 1326. RESOLUTION CR09 26. RESOLUTION C R 1026. UNDER SAFETY ORDINANCE C 1526.UNDER FINANCE ORDINANCE C 1026. ORDINANCE C 1426. RESOLUTION C R 1126. CHAIRS ARE OKAY WITH
[Ordinance C-12-26 Approve the Rezoning of 26.904+ acres located at 4910 Hoover Road from SF-1 (single-family residential) to SD-1 (educational). Second reading and public hearing.]
THE AGENDA. WE WILL MOVE TO LANDS UNDER CHAIRMAN HELLINGA. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE FIRST ITEM IS TO. AS IT RELATES TO ORDINANCE C 12 IS MY COUSIN. OKAY. I'M SORRY. FIRST ITEM IS ORDINANCE C 1226 TO APPROVE THE REZONING OF 26.904 ACRES LOCATED AT 4910 HOOVER ROAD FROM SF, ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO SD ONE EDUCATIONAL. THIS IS THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE? NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP IN REGARD TO IT. YES. OH I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I'M JUST HERE IF YOU WANT ME TO SAY. OKAY. OH, YOU'RE THE FIRST ONE. JUST REZONING. OKAY. OKAY. MR. MORRISON, OR IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY OR DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MORRISON? OKAY.THIS IS FOR EXPANDING THE AREA FOR NINA'S, FOR THE ADDITIONAL FIELD HOUSE. OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER NO OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSIONS OR PEOPLE THAT WISH TO SPEAK, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE REZONING OF 26.904 ACRES LOCATED AT 4910 HOOVER ROAD FROM SF, ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO SD ONE EDUCATIONAL. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ANDERSON. YES. YES YES.
YES. YES. YES. OMAR. YES. OKAY. YOUR ORDINANCE PASSES. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS
[Ordinance C-13-26 Accept the Annexation of 0.505 acres located at 2332 White Road. Second reading and public hearing.]
ORDINANCE C 13 DASH 26. ACCEPT THE ANNEXATION OF 0.505 ACRES LOCATED AT 32 OR EXCUSE ME, 2332 WHITE ROAD. THIS IS THE SECOND READING PUBLIC HEARING. AND IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? BRIDGET HICKS. HI, WE ARE JUST LOOKING TO HOOK UP TO CITY SEWER TO FLUSH OUR TOILETS AND SHOWER. YOU KNOW, PRETTY BASIC. YES, YES, A QUESTION THAT I HAVE. ARE YOU WILLING TO OBEY ABIDE BY ALL THE CITY REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY? YOU ARE. OKAY, SO WE'LL NEED A PROBABLY HAVE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DO A FINAL INSPECTION, ETC. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR. MR. IS THAT OKAY? YES. OKAY. MR. RAUSCH OR ANY OTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ISSUE. IF NOT, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ANNEXATION OF .505 ACRES LOCATED AT 2332 WHITE ROAD SECOND. MR. KALINGA. YES. GARY. YES, YES, YES. YES. OMAR. YES.[00:05:12]
ANDERSON. YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS RESOLUTION CR09 DASH[Resolution CR-09-26 Approve the Preliminary Development Plan for Patrick Properties located South of Grove City Road and West of Demorest Road.]
26. TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PATRICK PROPERTIES, LOCATED SOUTH OF GROVE CITY ROAD AND WEST OF DEMEREST ROAD. AND KYLE, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS PROJECT INITIALLY? I KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I THINK ONE TWO, THREE, FOUR FIVE AS WELL. OKAY, MAYBE MR. RAUSCH FIRST AND THEN THE DEVELOPER, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE LIST OF SPEAKERS. THANK YOU. MR. HELLINGA, JUST BRIEFLY, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. LAST OCTOBER, THEY WERE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR A SIMILAR PROJECT OF 93 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND 50 PAIRED PAIRED HOME PATIOS. SO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL HAS REDUCED THE EIGHT ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS. ADDITIONALLY, THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF TRYING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ACCESS PRIMARILY TO THE SOUTH. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTHERN PART OR THE BOTTOM OF THAT MAP, YOU'LL SEE A CONNECTION INTO THE AUTUMN GROVE SUBDIVISION. ADDITIONALLY, THEY'VE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO TALKING TO THE CEMETERY FOR REGIONAL TRAIL CONNECTION, AND THAT STARTS IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THAT GRAPHIC AND GOES EAST CONNECTING TO DEMEREST ROAD. SO AGAIN, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THEY HAVE MADE A GOOD LEAP FORWARD IN TERMS OF TRYING TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THEY HEARD FROM COUNCIL LAST TIME. WE THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE, EVEN THOUGH TECHNICALLY BY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT'S NOT IT'S SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL OR SOME TYPE OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SEEING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA, THAT AREA AND STAFF'S OPINION IS GOING TO CHANGE SINCE THE 2050 PLAN. SO WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY WERE SHOWING AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED OR STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY THEY ALSO FOLLOW SUIT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO AT THE BOTTOM THAT I'LL TURN IT OFF. SORRY, I THOUGHT I DID. THANK YOU. AT THE BOTTOM WHERE YOU SAID THAT ADDITIONAL ENTRANCE WAS KIND OF CREATED. I'M ASSUMING IT'S THOSE COUPLE OF TREES GOING DOWN. YES. IS THAT ALREADY THAT ROADWAY OR WHAT? I CAN SEE THERE? IS THAT ALREADY DEVELOPED OR ARE THOSE STREETS NOT YET DEVELOPED? THOSE ROADS ARE NOT CONSTRUCTED. THOSE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WAS APPROVED FOR CONSTRUCTION ON THE HOME SITE FOR AUTUMN GROVE.DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT POTENTIALLY WILL COME INTO PLAY? WE DO NOT, AND I'M SURE THE DEVELOPER HAS A BETTER ANSWER. BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A ANY TYPE OF TIMING ON ON THAT THAT IMPROVEMENT. OKAY. JUST THINKING ABOUT OTHER PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS HAVE COME IN AND HAVE HAD ONE, YOU KNOW, ENTRANCE AND EXIT, BUT HAD BEEN LONGING FOR THE OTHER ONE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAD SAID WOULD BE COMING. SO I JUST WANT TO BE. YES. AND MY FIRE CODE YOU ONLY DEVELOP IN SO MANY LOTS. OKAY, WITH ONE ACCESS. SO THAT'S ALSO A CONSIDERATION. DEVELOPER HAS ENTERTAINED AND IS AWARE OF IS OUTSTANDING STILL. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO MISS ANDERSON'S MR. RAUSCH. SO IF THIS WAS TO BE APPROVED, THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH NOT KNOWING WHEN THE AUTUMN GROVE EXTENSION DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE OCCURRING, WOULD THEY STILL BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITHOUT HAVING ANOTHER ACCESS? YES. STILL, THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY. SO THIS IS STILL A TIME FOR COUNCIL TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INSIGHT INTO THE PROJECT. THEY STILL HAVE TO DO A REZONING WHICH TAKES FOUR MONTHS OR FIVE MONTHS. SO THERE THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME IN THERE TO, TO HAVE A BETTER CERTAINTY INTO WHAT MARONDA HOMES IS PLANNING IN TERMS OF SECTIONS BEING CONSTRUCTED. I JUST KNOW THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE CONCERNED. YES. WITH THAT, WE WOULD BE TOO. YEAH. YES.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. RAUSCH WHILE HE'S UP? YES, SIR. WHAT WOULD BE THE AVERAGE PRICE POINT? MAYBE THAT'S O THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'VE GOT THOSE. OKAY. THEY'RE HERE. OKAY. WITH THE DEVELOPER LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. HILLARY LEVINE, 3940 OLYMPIC BOULEVARD, ERLANGER, KENTUCKY, 41018. JUST
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TO ANSWER SOME OF THE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED QUESTIONS, THE THAT SECTION OF AUTUMN GROVE THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING TYING INTO. AND IN CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THAT DEVELOPER, THEY HAVE STATED THAT THAT PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE COMING ONLINE NEXT FALL, 2027, AND THAT IF WE WERE FOR SOME REASON THAT THAT TIMING WERE NOT TO WORK OUT, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A SECONDARY ACCESS, EMERGENCY ACCESS THROUGH OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO A CONNECTION BACK UP TO GROVE CITY ROAD. AND THEN WHEN THAT DOES COME ONLINE TO THE SOUTH, THAT WE THAT SECOND ACCESS WOULD BECOME AVAILABLE AS A PUBLIC, A PUBLIC ACCESS. I'VE GOT A QUESTION. YEAH, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. WHAT WOULD BE THE AVERAGE PRICE POINT FOR THESE HOMES? SURE. SO WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS ON THE SITE, ONE BEING OUR MAPLE STREET HOME. AND THAT'S GOING TO START IN THE HIGH THREE HUNDREDS TO LOW 300 SECONDS IS WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THAT STARTING. AND KIND OF AS PEOPLE DO FINISHES AND ADD THINGS TO, TO THEIR HOMES, THAT NUMBER MIGHT GO UP A LITTLE BIT.AND THEN THE SHARED PATIO PROJECT PRODUCT WILL BE SOMEWHERE AROUND THREE, TEN, 330 STARTING AND AGAIN, AS PEOPLE ARE MAKING UPGRADES OR ADDING FLOORING, COUNTERTOPS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT NUMBER MIGHT, MIGHT CREEP UP A LITTLE BIT. AND I'M NOT SURE IF I MISSED THIS PART. HOW MANY BEDROOMS, RESTROOMS? SURE. SO THE PAIRED PATIO, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THAT. WE HAVE A TWO STORY PAIRED PATIO AND WE HAVE A ONE STORY PAIRED PATIO, AND THAT USUALLY JUST HAS 1 TO 2 BATHROOMS AND ABOUT TWO BEDROOMS IN EACH ONE. I THINK THERE'S ONE OPTION WHERE YOU CAN DO A THIRD BEDROOM IF YOU HAVE THE LOFT. AND THEN IN OUR MAPLE STREET HOMES, THOSE TYPICALLY RANGED FROM ABOUT 3 TO 4 BEDROOMS AND THEN THE BATHROOM COUNT ON. THOSE ARE USUALLY ABOUT THREE BATHROOMS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. OMAR? ANYONE ELSE? YES, MISS. WELCOME BACK. YES. THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT WE SINCE OUR LAST MEETING IN OCTOBER, I KNOW THAT WE HAD A A MEETING WITH A FEW OF YOU. I WAS THAT IN JANUARY. I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN AROUND JANUARY. YEAH. AND I WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FIRST PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT YOU BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL. SO THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD STEPS FORWARD. A COUPLE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AND I KNOW YOU DID A PRESENTATION THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO KIND OF GO THROUGH WHERE, WHERE YOU STARTED AND WHERE YOU ARE TODAY, AND ALSO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN COMMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION BROUGHT UP AND TALK TO THAT. SURE. SO JUST A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE FROM OUR PREVIOUS PLAN FROM TODAY. SO STARTING FROM LAST FALL, WHEN WE CAME BEFORE COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD WAS TRAFFIC RELATED ISSUES. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DO WAS WE GO OUT AND WE ACTUALLY STUDIED THIS INTERSECTION OUT HERE, WHICH WAS A BIG CONCERN AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND HOW OUR DEVELOPMENT BEING SO CLOSE TO THIS BUILDING WOULD AFFECT THE IMMEDIATE TRAFFIC OF THAT INTERSECTION. SO WE DID A STUDY AT THAT AT THAT BROADWAY AND GROVE CITY ROAD INTERSECTION, AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THAT INTERSECTION IS CURRENTLY OPERATING AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE TODAY, BASED OFF THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT WERE RECORDED. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE PROJECTED TRAFFIC OF OUR DEVELOPMENT ON THAT INTERSECTION WILL ONLY GENERATE ONE CAR EVERY 75 SECONDS AT THAT INTERSECTION DURING PEAK AM AND PM HOURS. ANOTHER TRAFFIC RELATED CONCERN WAS HOW IT RELATED TO OUR IMMEDIATE SITE ACCESS. SO WE WERE ABLE TO FINISH OUR TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ALONE. AND IN THAT REPORT, IT WAS FOUNDED THAT WE WOULD NEED A LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT IMPROVEMENT WOULD BE INCORPORATED AND WOULD ELIMINATE ANY POTENTIAL FOR WESTBOUND TRAFFIC BUILD UP WHILE WAITING TO TURN LEFT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. SO IT WOULD ALLEVIATE ANY PAIN THERE. AND THEN FROM A LAYOUT STANDPOINT, WE'VE DISCUSSED THE ONE ENTRANCE INTO AUTUMN GROVE, BUT WE'VE ALSO MADE A SECONDARY ACCESS OVER KIND OF TO THE WEST OF THAT FOR ANY OTHER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD GO THROUGH. AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED AS A PART OF THAT FROM STAFF WAS UPGRADING THE SIZE OF THE SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT WOULD THEN RUN FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TO, AGAIN, ANY, ANY FUTURE GROWTH. AND THEN WE ALSO EXPLORED OTHER ALTERNATIVES WITH STAFF TO CREATE A MORE DIRECT ACCESS FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT DOWN TO RANCH ROAD.
AND ULTIMATELY, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THIS WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL ISSUES AND FUNCTION AS A CUT THROUGH STREET FROM GROVE CITY ROAD TO RANCH ROAD, WHICH WAS NOT DESIRABLE FROM STAFF STANDPOINT NOR OUR STANDPOINT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S
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AN ISSUE ON DEMARIS ROAD TODAY, AND SO REALLY KIND OF CREATING THAT DIRECT ACCESS THROUGH WOULD REALLY JUST CREATE ANOTHER ISSUE FOR THE CITY. WHEREAS GROVE CITY ROAD IS AN ARTERIAL ROAD, IT IS FUNCTIONING AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE AT THE SURROUNDING INTERSECTIONS. SO KEEPING TRAFFIC ON GROVE CITY ROAD, WE FOUND, WAS ALSO AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DID WIDEN THE HOME SITES COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO UP TO THAT FIRST INTERSECTION WHERE THE PARK IS, WE WIDENED THOSE LOTS FROM 52FT TO 65FT IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE ESTHETIC. AS YOU COME INTO THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS WHERE A BIG LOSS OF OUR UNITS CAME FROM. AND THEN WE ALSO USED LOST LOTS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THAT MAIN PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMMUNITY. WE SWITCHED THAT FROM PAIRED PATIO TO MAPLE STREET. AGAIN, JUST FROM A ESTHETIC STANDPOINT, THAT SINGLE FAMILY AND KIND OF WE CAN CONTROL THOSE FACADES AND HOW THAT LOOKS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND ESPECIALLY AS IT FRONTS ON TO THAT PARK. AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT WE DID IS WE'VE HAD OUR OUR WESTWARD NEIGHBOR HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT THE ESTHETIC AND SAFETY STANDPOINT, ABOUT HOW OUR COMMUNITY ABUTS HER PROPERTY OR THEIR PROPERTY. AND SO ONE THING THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO DO AS A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS TO LANDSCAPE THAT WESTERN BUFFER AT A RATIO OF 15 EVERGREEN TREES AND THREE DECIDUOUS TREES FOR EVERY 100 LINEAR FEET. AND SO THAT IS THAT THAT ARE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON TO DATE. OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN? YES. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE THAT PLANNING STAFF HAS BROUGHT UP REGARDING ARCHITECTURE IS RELATED TO THE AMOUNT OF BRICK ON THE FACADE.SO WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH WITH STAFF AND MEET THOSE EXPECTATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SET IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT GROVE CITY. ANOTHER COMMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE IS HOW TO DE-EMPHASIZE THE GARAGES. SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE WILL WORK WITH STAFF ON AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONCERN IS AND HOW WE CAN HELP ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YES. THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. MR. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. YES. OH, MAYOR. OKAY. I'M SORRY. SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU. MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THIS. IS THIS A TIER ONE POND IN THE FRONT? FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE TO BE ON THAT STAGE YET FOR THE DESIGN DEPARTMENT. OKAY, BUT IT WOULD BE THE MORE ENHANCED LAKE. MY ENGINEER IS TELLING ME IT'S A TIER TWO POND. A TIER TWO POND. YEAH. OKAY. WE WILL WORK THROUGH THAT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. I WANTED TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TIER ONE AND TIER TWO. HE'S BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT WHETHER YOU HAVE A TIER ONE OR TIER TWO POND. CAN YOU CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT FOR EVERYBODY, PLEASE? A TIER ONE POND IS A BROWN FARMS. IT HAS STONES AROUND THE PERIMETER AND THE LARGER BULKHEAD WITH WITH THE BRICK. TIER TWO. I THINK MAYBE ALLEN BUCKEYE PARKWAY TOWARDS HOLTON ROAD AND THEN TIER THREE, WHICH WE DON'T WANT IT ALL, IS THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE. THE TIER ONE IS A MORE ENHANCED. ANYONE ELSE UP HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS PROJECT. THE FIRST IS D DELANEY. FOR THIS PROJECT. I'M ON NEW BUSINESS. NEW BUSINESS. OKAY.
I'M SORRY. OKAY, SO. THE NEXT IS BRIAN PARKS. GOOD EVENING. BRIAN PARKS 4413 LIBRARY DRIVE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. COUNCIL. I'M A RESIDENT OF AUTUMN GROVE AND HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME DETAILS IN THE PROPOSED PATRICK'S HALL DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE DEVELOPMENT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL IN OCTOBER 2025 AND WAS REJECTED LARGELY DUE TO TRAFFIC CONCERNS. THE DEVELOPER IS AGAIN COMING TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, THIS TIME ADDING AN ACCESS INTO AUTUMN GROVE SECTION SIX, PHASE TWO, WHICH ISN'T YET DEVELOPED. I DON'T FEEL THAT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE SOLUTION FOR TRAFFIC FLOW ENTERING AND EXITING PATRICK'S HOLLOW TRAFFIC EXITING PATRICK'S HOLLOW INTO AUTUMN GROVE WILL
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NEED TO TAKE FIVE SEPARATE TURNS JUST TO REACH DEMEREST ROAD. THE CONCERNS AROUND TRAFFIC A LOT OF A LOT OF FAMILIES, A LOT OF KIDS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IN MY OPINION, THE BETTER SOLUTION WOULD BE FOR THE MAIN ACCESS ROAD TO BE SHIFTED WEST TO MEET LARCHMERE DRIVE AND A TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE BE ADDED. THIS WOULD RESULT IN A LARGE BENEFIT TO BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS AND INCREASED SAFETY ALONG GROVE CITY ROAD. GROVE CITY ROAD ALREADY HAS TURNING LANES HERE AT LARCHMERE DRIVE. OF COURSE, THIS WOULD REQUIRE FISHER TO ACQUIRE THE PARCEL TO THE WEST OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND ACCORDING TO THE PUBLISHED COMMENTS FROM THAT LANDOWNER, THOSE THOSE OWNERS HAVE ALREADY DECLINED TO SELL. I DO HAVE CONCERNS AROUND WATER PRESSURE AND CAPACITY IN THIS AREA. THE WATER PRESSURE IN AUTUMN GROVE IS BARELY SUFFICIENT AS IT IS TODAY. WHAT CERTAINTY DO WE HAVE THAT THAT WATER PRESSURES WON'T CONTINUE TO BE IMPACTED AS WE'RE ADDING MORE PEOPLE TO THE WATER SUPPLY LINES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? I'D LIKE TO SEE GROVE CITY TAKE ACTION TO IMPROVE WATER PRESSURES AND SUPPLY, EVEN MAYBE TO THE POINT OF BUILDING ITS OWN WATER SUPPLIES OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, A WATER TOWER IN THAT AREA. THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ALSO PROPOSES TO CONNECT ITS SANITARY SEWER TO AUTUMN GROVE. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STATES THAT THIS WOULD NEED TO BE EXAMINED IN FUTURE FILINGS. THERE WAS SOME MENTION ABOUT POSSIBLY INCREASING THE SIZE OF A SANITARY SEWER. JUST CURIOUS WHY THIS WOULD NOT CONNECT AT GROVE CITY ROAD. AS A REAL ESTATE AGENT HERE IN GROVE CITY, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BUILD ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BOTH STANDALONE AND SHARED WALL ON ITS FACE. I'M NOT AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT, HOWEVER. A BAND AID SOLUTION AROUND THE AREA. LACKING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT I DON'T THINK IS THE RIGHT ANSWER EITHER. IT'S OBVIOUS FAMILIES WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE TO GROVE CITY. FISHER WOULDN'T WANT TO BUILD THIS COMMUNITY IF THEY DIDN'T FEEL THEY COULD SELL IT. HOWEVER, THE CITY, I BELIEVE, SHOULD TAKE A MORE PROACTIVE APPROACH TO WORK TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC, WATER AND SANITARY SEWER FACILITIES OVERALL. IN MY OPINION, THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOULD BE REJECTED AS IT DOES NOT MAKE THE RIGHT CHANGES TO ANSWER THE CITY'S CONCERNS IN OCTOBER. I DO FEEL THAT SOME RESPONSIBILITY DOES FALL ON THE CITY TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, RATHER THAN JUST ON THE DEVELOPER TO PROPOSE THE WRONG FIXES. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE. THE NEXT SPEAKER THAT SIGNED UP TO ADDRESS KR 926 IS HILARY LEVIN.DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? OH, THAT WAS YOU. OKAY. YOU WERE THE OKAY. GOT IT. THE NEXT ONE IS MIKE. IS IT REESE? I'M THE APPLICANT. ENGINEER. OKAY, SO YOU'RE AN ENGINEER. OKAY. AND THEN THE NEXT IS MATTHEW WEBER. I SIGNED UP FOR THAT. I'M HERE FOR THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. FOR TEN.
OKAY. WE'LL GET TO THE RIGHT ONE YET. OKAY. CHRISTINA MURDOCH. GOOD EVENING.
CHRISTINA MURDOCH AT 4577 GROVE CITY ROAD. THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST. FIRST, I DO WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR REQUIRING THE BUFFER ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. YOU KNOW, IT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO ENFORCE A MORE SMOOTH TRANSITION BETWEEN PROPERTY TYPES. I MEAN, TALKING TO NEIGHBORS, I DO THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THAT THERE IS ALSO CONCERN ABOUT A SIMILAR BUFFER NOT BEING AROUND THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR. THEY HAVE SHEEP AND VEHICLES IN AND OUT OF THEIR REAR BARN BEFORE SUNRISE AFTER SUNSET. THOSE LIGHTS WOULD BE DIRECTLY IN THE BACK OF THE DOUBLES ON THAT WEST SIDE THERE. SO TO FOR CONTINUITY PURPOSES, THAT IS, I THINK, WORTH CONSIDERING. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT BUFFER. THE PROJECT NARRATIVE WAS ADJUSTED TO STATE THAT THE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE BUFFER TO THE NORTH. HOWEVER, THAT BUFFER IS ON HOA OWNED OPEN SPACE, WHEREAS THIS BUFFER WILL BE IN THE REAR PROPERTY. OF THOSE DOUBLE UNITS, WHICH YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH UTILITY FORESTERS ALL DAY LONG, EVERY DAY. AND IN SPEAKING WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING TREE DISEASE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH TREES, IT'S NOT EASY AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. SO THE FOLKS MOVING INTO DOUBLE UNITS GENERALLY DON'T WANT A LOT OF MAINTENANCE ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO I THINK IT'S WORTH CLEARLY DEFINING WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE. WHEREAS IF THE HOA WILL BE ACCESSING THESE PRIVATE RESIDENTS TO MAINTAIN THE TREES OR IF IT WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND IF SO, ARE THERE GOING TO BE GUIDELINES FOR DISEASE CONTROL REPLACEMENT IF THEY DIE AND GUIDELINES FOR NOT REMOVING THE TREES, MAKING THE BUFFER NONEXISTENT? THE THE
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REAR SETBACKS OF THOSE UNITS ARE 25FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. THE SPACE REQUIRED FOR THOSE BUFFERS IS 20FT. MOST TREES USED IN THOSE TYPES OF BUFFERS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE HARRIS FARMS AND PLUM. PLUM RUN PLANS HAVE A WIDTH OF 15 TO 25FT. SO YOU HAVE TO WONDER IF PEOPLE REALLY WANT TREE BRANCHES OR TREE BRANCHES RIGHT IN THEIR BACKYARD. AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO FIT A 12 INCH STORM DRAIN IN THAT SPACE, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO BE TEN FEET FROM THE BASE OF THE TREE PLANTINGS. SO THE WAY THAT THIS DENSITY IN THIS PLAN IS OUTLINED, IT DOES NOT LEAVE A LOT OF SPACE FOR FLEXIBILITY. WHEREAS IN MOST, MOST DEVELOPMENT PLANS, THESE BUFFERS ARE AND DEDICATED OPEN SPACE AS OPPOSED TO BACKYARDS. JUST FOR DENSITY REFERENCE, THE AUTUMN GROVE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH HAS A DENSITY OF 2.3 COMPARED TO THIS 3.41 TO MATCH, THAT WOULD BE 40 LESS UNITS. THAT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. THE 2050 PLAN DESIGNATES THIS LAND AS EDGE LIVING, WHICH IS 1 TO 5 ACRE LOTS. SO IT MAKES YOU WONDER IF THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE RECENTLY UPDATED 2050 PLAN ARE SUGGESTIONS ARE ACTUALLY MEANINGFUL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ABIDE BY. SO DECISIONS ON THESE PLANS SET PRECEDENTS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT IS THE LAST SPEAKER SIGNED UP FOR THIS PARTICULAR. RESOLUTION. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ON CITY COUNCIL? I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE WATER ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY SPEAKER. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. RAUSCH CAN ASSURE THE ENGINEER. YEAH. THANK YOU. THE WAY THE PROPERTY'S PULLING WATER TO THE SITE, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT PRESSURE DISTRICT. SO WE'RE ALL AWARE THERE'S ISSUES WITH WATER PRESSURE WITHIN AUTUMN GROVE, BUT THIS IS OFF A DIFFERENT PRESSURE DISTRICT IN TERMS OF THE SANITARY WE'RE WORKING WITH. WE'LL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STATE AND EPA COMPLIANCE ITEMS. SO IT'S FROM OUR STANDPOINT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT TO HAVE THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. IN TERMS OF THE ROAD ALIGNMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GROWTH CITY THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THERE'S ACTUALLY A MORE STRAIGHT ROUTE ROAD PLANNED BEING EXTENSION OF HOLT ROAD IN THE FUTURE THAT WE WE WOULD ANTICIPATE TO BE MORE OF THE OF THE PEOPLE MOVER IN THE AREA.SO THE FACT THAT THIS ROAD CURVES AND BENDS, I THINK STAFF LIKES THE IDEA BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC AND BE SAFER FOR PEOPLE AND KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN ALSO, CAN YOU REMIND ME WITH THIS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, RIGHT? IF WE, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO TALK ABOUT MORE OF TREE BUFFERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR WANTING TO UNDERSTAND PIECES OF MAINTENANCE, WHERE DO WE. WELL, THE NEXT STEP WILL BE DRAFTING THE ZONING TEXT WHERE WE CAN KIND OF CODIFY OR SET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE SUBDIVISION IN TERMS OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S MORE OF A DEVELOPER QUESTION. I'M ASSUMING BEING A, A MORE DENSE AREA IS A LOT OF ACTIVITIES GOING TO BE INSIDE, NOT AS MUCH OUTSIDE. AND THE MAINTENANCE TYPICALLY FALLS ON AN ASSOCIATION. JUST, JUST LIKE A REGULAR ISSUE WOULD HOA WOULD BE, BUT THAT SHOULD BE STATED BY THE DEVELOPER, NOT BY STAFF. OKAY, SO THIS DOES HAVE. YEAH. THERE WAS THIS THE PACKET MATERIALS HAD A ZONING TEXT, BUT REALLY THAT IS CONCEPTUAL. SO IF COUNCIL HAS CONCERNS, WE CAN, YOU CAN VOICE THEM AND WE MAKE SURE THERE'S INTEGRATED INTO THE ACTUAL ZONING TEXT THAT WOULD BE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AS PART OF THE REZONING PROCESS FOR ADOPTION, AS PART OF THE REZONING PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. HOW WOULD A PROJECT LIKE THIS ALIGN WITH THE CURRENT HOUSING NEED IN THE CITY? AND IS THERE HOUSING NEED? YES, I WOULD SAY THERE'S A THERE'S A HOUSING NEED THROUGHOUT THE REGION. AND FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE ALWAYS TRY TO FIND THE RANGE. PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY THEY WANT BIG LOTS STATE LIVING STAFF'S OF THE OPINION THAT WE NEED ALL THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. SO I THINK WE NEED THE WHOLE SPECTRUM TO BE DIVERSE IN OUR HOUSING OPTIONS AND FOLLOW UP ON THE HOUSING ANALYSIS THAT WE DISCUSSED. WE ARE AWARE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU WERE ASKING WERE REALLY TOUGH TO FIND THE RIGHT DATA SOURCE. SO IT'S GOING TO
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BE WE'RE EXPECTING A MONTH OR TWO OUT, BUT THEN AGAIN, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE. THAT'S JUST TO KIND OF CLEAN UP WHAT WE DID ON THE SNAPSHOT. BUT AGAIN, THAT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT SOURCES OF DATA WE CAN WE CAN FIND. WE FOUND A LOT OF GOOD DATA FROM THE REALTORS ASSOCIATION, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF IS A LITTLE MORE BURDENSOME. THANK YOU. I'VE JUST BEEN CURIOUS BECAUSE AS WE GET PROJECTS LIKE THESE WITH THE PRICE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXACT NEED IS IN THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER WE NEED MORE WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER THIS SINGLE FAMILY OR, YOU KNOW, PAIRED UNITS IS WHAT WE NEED. I'M JUST NOT SURE. SO BUT I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON IT. I JUST YEAH, AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED ALL OF THE DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF HOUSING. SO IT'S AND REALLY THE MARKET REALLY DICTATES THERE'S IF THIS DEVELOPER WERE TO WALK AWAY, THERE'D BE NO DEVELOPER. RIGHT? RIGHT BEHIND THEM. I'D ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS. YEAH. SO THERE'S A DEMAND FOR HOUSING IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? YES. THE THE ROAD EXTENSION YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME ON THAT. THE EXTENSION HOLT ROAD DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH A CERTAIN PROJECT. I WILL SAY THAT THERE'S A PROPOSED DATA CENTER THAT WOULD LIKELY NECESSITATE WATER BEING BROUGHT DOWN FROM HOLT ROAD. WITH THAT WATER LINE EXTENSION WOULD BE A ROAD EXTENSION. THANK YOU. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY.ANY OTHER? YES, SIR. SO, KYLE, HOW MANY MORE HOW MANY HOUSES UNITS ARE IN THIS? JUST 135.
135 THAT THAT INCLUDES THE PATIOS, PATIO. IT'S ALL IT'S TOTAL 135 HOMES. ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S ALL I'M I'M DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE MY STATEMENT AND THEN YEAH, THEY'RE 93 SINGLE FAMILIES AND 42 PATIOS. OKAY. THANKS. SO I HAVE A COMMENT. YES. MY I MEAN, I SAID THIS AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR MEETING WITH JODY AND I IN, IN JANUARY. I THINK IT WAS JANUARY AND JANUARY AND EVERYTHING. AND YOU HEARD MY CONCERNS THEN I'M SURE AND EVERYTHING. AND THERE'S STILL MY CONCERNS. I MEAN, I, I DRIVE GROVE CITY ROAD, I TRY TO TURN LEFT ON GROVE CITY ROAD AND YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEBODY TO TELL ME THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THAT INTERSECTION, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S STILL MORE HOUSES. IT'S STILL THE QUICKEST ACCESS OUT ONTO ONTO 62. AND UNTIL WE HAVE SOME OTHER ARTERY THAT LIKE WE'VE DISCUSSED, A TOWN CENTER BYPASS AT ONE POINT IN TIME OR SOMETHING ELSE, I'M JUST I CAN'T SUPPORT MORE TRAFFIC ON GROVE CITY ROAD. I MEAN, I GO DOOR TO DOOR OVER THERE EVERY YEAR. ASKING PEOPLE AND TRAFFIC IS A MAJOR ISSUE ON GROVE CITY ROAD. AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'D BE LYNCHED IF I DID, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT SHOULD GO OVER THERE. YOU GUYS DO DO A GOOD PRODUCT. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT AGAINST YOUR YOUR COMPANY OR THE QUALITY OF HOME THAT YOU BUILD OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST WE DO NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT NOW IN MY MIND TO SUPPORT IT RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S WHY I'M VOTING THE WAY I WILL. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PATRICK PROPERTIES, LOCATED SOUTH OF GROVE CITY ROAD AND WEST OF DEMARIS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. MR. BERRY? NO. HOLT.
YES. STURM. NO. BURROWS. YES. OMAR. NO. ANDERSON. YES. MISS. LANGA. LANGA. NO. SORRY. MR. HOLLINGER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO MOTION IS DENIED. THE MOTION IS DENIED. OKAY. THE THE
[Resolution CR-10-26 Approve the Development Plan for LaQuinta Hotel located at 4197 Marlane Drive. ]
NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION C R 1026 TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR LA QUINTA HOTEL, LOCATED AT 4197 MARLENE DRIVE. AND I DON'T. YEAH. WE'VE GOT SOMEONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN REGARD TO THAT. SORRY FOR. YEP. MATTHEW WEBER, THAT IS ME. OKAY, GOOD. AND IF YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. 2555 HARTVILLE ROAD, ROOTSTOWN, OHIO. HAVING DRIVEN DOWN HERE FOR TWO[00:35:06]
HOURS, I AT LEAST WANTED TO STAND UP HERE AND SAY HELLO. AND WE'RE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE THE REBRANDING OF THE COMFORT IN. IT'S GOING TO BE REBRANDED INTO A LA QUINTA AND FEW CHANGES TO THE PARKING. THE ENTRY TO IT TO ALLOW FOR BETTER USE OF THAT AREA. SO HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL CERTAINLY PRESENT QUESTIONS TO HELP WITH YOUR TWO HOURS BILLABLE HOURS.YES, YES. WILL THERE BE MODERNIZATION OR RENOVATIONS DONE ON THE INSIDE OF THE HOTEL OR RIGHT NOW? ARE YOU JUST LOOKING AT THE EXTERIOR FOR THIS? THE INTERIOR IS BEING MODIFIED AT THIS TIME, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND GENERALLY FOR THIS PROPERTY, HOW MUCH DO YOU ANTICIPATE RENOVATING IT? ONCE. LIKE WILL IT BE A WHOLE FLOOR AT ONCE OR DO YOU KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF THAT TIME FRAME? YES, THEY DROVE FIVE HOURS. OKAY. SO IF YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, I'D APPRECIATE IT. HURON PATEL, 403 VAIL RUN, MOUNT JULIET, TENNESSEE. AND YES. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE END STAGES OF COMPLETING OUR GUEST ROOM RENOVATION. SO THE UPPER TWO FLOOR, SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. THE FIRST FLOOR IS BEING COMPLETED NOW JUST WITHIN MAYBE ABOUT A WEEK OR SO. SHOULD BE FULLY DONE WITH GUEST ROOMS. AND THEN WE ANTICIPATE GETTING STARTED WITH THE LOBBY WORK. ONCE WE HAVE A FEW THINGS NAILED DOWN TO GET OUR BUILDING PERMIT. OKAY. RENOVATION. OKAY. AND THEN ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON THE EXTERIOR IF THIS WORKS? YES. SO YOU CAN SEE THE BROWN AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE TILED. SO THAT PART WILL BE CHANGED. THERE'S A FEW MODIFICATIONS ALONG THE ROOF LINE, AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE EFFORTS WILL ALL BE PAINTED. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN US. THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO BE NICE. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ON TRUCK PARKING.
SORRY. TRUCK PARKING. THAT ISSUE HAD COME UP BEFORE IT CAME UP AT PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT WAS ONE OF THE FOUR FOUR REQUESTS THAT IT WOULD BE POSTED FOR NO TRUCK PARKING.
OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I'M NEIL PATEL, 765 RUSSELL ROAD IN COOKEVILLE, TENNESSEE. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL, BUT I WANTED ALL OF YOU TO KNOW THAT IN 1988, I VISITED GROVE CITY AND I DEVELOPED THE FIRST BEST WESTERN. AND AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, CHUCK AND MIKE WERE THERE. AND SINCE THEN I DEVELOPED SEVEN HOTELS. SO I WANT TO THANK CITY OF GROVE CITY FOR OUR GROWTH. BUT ALL THOSE HOTELS ARE BUILT BY US. HILTON GARDEN, CANDLEWOOD LA QUINTA, BEST WESTERN HAMPTON COMFORT SUITES AND COMFORT IN ALL SEVEN ARE BUILT BY US. YEAH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT IS YOUR AVERAGE OCCUPANCY RATE HERE IN GROVE CITY? IT DEPENDS ON THE BRAND.
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
OKAY, OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE LA QUINTA HOTEL, LOCATED AT 4197 MARLENE DRIVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. MR. HOLT? YES, SIR. YES. BURROWS. YES. OMAR. YES. ANDERSON. YES.
YES. BARRY. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN APPROVED. JOHNSON. OKAY. I HOPE YOU PLAN TO STAY TONIGHT. YES. ONE OF THE HOTEL'S RESTAURANTS AND I HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DRIVES BACK.
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YEAH. YEAH. YEAH, RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR COMING. APPRECIATE THE INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. HEY, THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE. ALL RIGHT, MR. PRESIDENT. ALL[Ordinance C-15-26 Enact Section 505.19 of the Codified Ordinances titled Chickens and Ducks. First reading.]
RIGHT, MOVE TO MISS BURROWS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE SAFETY COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, MR. BARRY.ORDINANCE C 1526, THIS IS TO ENACT SECTION 5O5 POINT 19 OF THE ORDINANCE ENTITLED CHICKENS AND DUCKS. THIS IS THE FIRST READING. THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE ON MAY 18TH OF THIS YEAR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE FINANCE
[Ordinance C-10-26 Appropriate $75,000.00 from the General Fund for the current expense of the CARES Healthcare Reimbursement Pilot Program. Second reading and public hearing. ]
COMMITTEE, MR. STROHM. YES. THANK YOU. FIRST IS ORDINANCE C 1026. THIS IS TO APPROPRIATE $75,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE CURRENT EXPENSE OF THE CARES HEALTH CARE REIMBURSEMENT PILOT PROGRAM. THIS IS THE SECOND READING IN PUBLIC HEARING. WAS THERE ANYBODY THAT SIGNED UP FOR THIS? JASON. OKAY. IS HERE. DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT YOUR FACT SHEET SINCE YOU GUYS WORKED SO HARD ON IT? JASON MOORE 2431. MILLIGAN GROVE HERE IN GROVE CITY. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR SEEING ME AGAIN WHEN WE WERE HERE BACK IN OCTOBER. AND WE'RE BACK. SO THIS GROVE CITY CARES HEALTHCARE GRANT PILOT PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THE MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS AND WORKERS IN GROVE CITY. WE'RE HOPING TO CAPTURE INDIVIDUALS MAKING LESS THAN 35,000 A YEAR, OR COUPLES MAKING LESS THAN $50,000 A YEAR, AND PROVIDE THEM WITH A HEALTHCARE GRANT, SHOULD THEY USE HEALTHCARE.GOV TO. ATTAIN THEIR HEALTH CARE PROGRAM? SORRY. THE IDEA IS THAT THIS WILL HELP PRIMARILY YOUNG RESIDENTS OR WORKERS WHO ARE NO LONGER COVERED UNDER THEIR PARENTS HEALTH INSURANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR PEOPLE, RESIDENTS OR WORKERS THAT ARE IN BETWEEN JOBS OR WORKING RECENTLY WITH A ORGANIZATION THAT DOES NOT OFFER HEALTH CARE BENEFITS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A BRIDGE TO UNTIL THEY CAN FIND A JOB THAT DOES OFFER THOSE BENEFITS. WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THIS PROMOTES A HEALTHY WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND GROVE CITY, WHICH LEADS TO A HEALTHIER COMMUNITY BECAUSE IF FOLKS GET HEALTHCARE, THEY CAN SEE A DOCTOR ROUTINELY WITHOUT ISSUE, AND THAT WOULD LEAD TO A HEALTHIER COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY WOULD SEE THEIR PHYSICIANS ON A ROUTINE BASIS RATHER THAN WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO GO WRONG AND NEEDING SIGNIFICANT ASSISTANCE LATER. WORKING IN THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE FREQUENTLY MYSELF, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE FOLKS THAT GO WITHOUT INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE HEALTHY, AND THEN THEY HAVE SOME LIFE CHANGING MEDICAL ISSUE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE IN FOREVER DEBT. SO ANY ENCOURAGEMENT THAT CAN BE PROVIDED TO PEOPLE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF HEALTH CARE COVERAGE IS ESSENTIAL FOR A HEALTHY COMMUNITY, IN MY OPINION. WE DID MOVE. THIS WAS INITIALLY APPROVED AS A GRANT. WE ENDED UP, AFTER QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION, CHANGING IT TO A REIMBURSEMENT FORMAT. AND ONE OF THE MAIN FACTORS WAS THAT WAS FOR THAT WAS THAT WE WANTED TO AVOID ABUSE OF THE PROGRAM, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE OBTAINING THE GRANT AND THEN NOT USING IT FOR HEALTH CARE OR DOING SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT A REIMBURSEMENT FORMAT WOULD HELP US PREVENT. OUR GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO TRY TO COVER BETWEEN TWO AND A HALF TO THREE MONTHS OF A PREMIUM, BASED ON THE MEDIAN HEALTHCARE.GOV PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER FOR THOSE WITHOUT INSURANCE. AND THE OTHER REASON THAT WE'RE USING HEALTHCARE.GOV IS BECAUSE JUST USING THAT HELPS US SCREEN WITH US NOT USING ANY CITY GROVE CITY RESOURCES SCREEN. THOSE RESIDENTS. AGAIN, WITHOUT USING CITY RESOURCES. THEY CAN THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED THROUGH HEALTHCARE.GOV IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND THEN MARKETING.[00:45:04]
WE WERE HOPING TO USE THE GROVE CITY WEBSITE AND ACTUALLY FOLLOW A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALREADY DO FOR THE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM SO THAT WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL FOR WAYS TO ADVERTISE THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU. I HAVE A I HAVE A QUESTION. IF AN INDIVIDUAL THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA HERE IS ON A AN INSURANCE PROGRAM, BUT IT'S TOUGH FOR THEM TO PAY THE WHOLE THING. IS THERE A SORT OF A COPAY PREMIUM PORTION OF THIS, OR IS IT THE ENTIRE THING? YEAH. SO WE, WE REALLY GAUGE THIS. WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH A MIDDLE LINE, RIGHT? THE, THE ONE WITH THE. LOWER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MEDIAN DEDUCTIBLES, MEDIAN COPAYS, SO THAT WE WERE DOING THE AVERAGE, RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU CAN CERTAINLY PAY LESS AND HAVE HIGHER DEDUCTIBLES AND CO-PAYS, OR YOU CAN PAY MORE AND HAVE LESS CO-PAYS. SO WE, WE TRY TO KEEP IT IN THE MIDDLE TO GIVE OURSELVES THE BEST NUMBER TO, TO ROUND TO AND, AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY HELP THE MOST PEOPLE. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. SO THE GOAL IS TO HELP COVER TWO AND A HALF TO THREE MONTHS WORTH WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TRULY STIPULATING? I MEAN, ARE WE SAYING THAT IT'S A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT OR ARE WE SAYING IT'S FOR SO LONG, I GUESS, HOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT AFTER THAT? SAY WE'VE DECIDED THREE MONTHS, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEBODY NEEDS IT? SIX MONTHS? SO THAT'S WHAT WE USED AS A GAUGE WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR RESEARCH FOR THE DATA AND THE COSTS INVOLVED. WHAT WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR WITHIN THE PROGRAM IS $400 FOR A SINGLE PERSON AND $600 FOR COUPLES OR FAMILIES. AND $400, FOR EXAMPLE, IS ABOUT IT WAS ABOUT THREE MONTHS WORTH OF PREMIUMS FOR THE MIDDLE ROAD PLAN HEALTH CARE PLAN. IT MAY BE A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT NOW BECAUSE OF SOME CHANGES THAT HAPPENED WITH THE PROGRAM IN THE NEW ADMINISTRATION. BUT BUT IT STILL SHOULD BE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER COMES FROM. WE'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO PAY FOR THOSE THOSE NUMBER OF MONTHS WE'RE GOING TO THEY CAN MAX OUT AT $400. SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PROGRAM THEY ACTUALLY PICK.OKAY. IT COULD PAY FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE THAT WRITT WENHERE THAT IS THE THRESHOLD. THAT IS THE MAX 400 OR 600. OKAY. IN THE PROGRAM. OKAY. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE AN EXUBERANT AMOUNT THAT NEEDS TO UTILIZE THIS AND IT GOES OVER 75,000 EVEN IN THIS PILOT YEAR? THEN WE COME BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, SEE IF WE CAN EXPAND THIS PROGRAM. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL PART OF THE MARKETING WILL REFLECT THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND EACH INDIVIDUAL IS LIMITED TO $400. EACH COUPLE OR FAMILY IS LIMITED TO $600. AND ONCE THAT, ONCE THE MAXIMUM, ONCE THE AMOUNT OF OUR APPROPRIATION IS MET, THE FUNDS WON'T BE AVAILABLE UNTIL FURTHER OPPORTUNITIES COME AROUND. WHY DID WE PICK 75,000? I GUESS THROUGH THE TASK FORCE. WAS THEIR DATA DONE? DO WE HAVE AN IDEA? I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO UTILIZE 45,000 RIGHT AWAY, OR DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE NEED THAT POTENTIALLY WILL COME OVER THE NEXT 6 TO 12 MONTHS FOR THIS? SO AGAIN, WE TRY TO DO AVERAGES. SO THAT WOULD COVER ABOUT 150 PEOPLE OR FAMILIES THAT THAT PURSUED IT. WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD FRANKLY, THAT JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS, IT JUST FELT LIKE A GOOD STARTING POINT, RIGHT? THE BEST WE COULD DO CURRENTLY WITHOUT HAVING AN ESTABLISHED PROGRAM. WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALSO BEEN CONSIDERED THE ENTIRE TIME OF THE THE CITY'S MONEY, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO DO THIS FOR 500 PEOPLE. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GOT TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY JUST TO MANAGE THE PROGRAM, RIGHT? SO HOPEFULLY INITIALLY WE CAN MANAGE THIS AMOUNT, SEE WHAT WE GET, SEE WHAT IT TAKES TO SOME OF THE METRICS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW. THANKS TO MR. STURM'S ADVICE, WE'LL KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE HELPING WITH HOW MUCH MARKETING AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE SPENDING. AND SO IF IF IT WERE TO GROW IN THE FUTURE, WE WOULD HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET THERE. I'VE CERTAINLY BEEN ONE OF THE ONES THAT HAS SPOKEN ABOUT ANGST TOWARDS THIS. I MEAN, I, I
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THINK HEALTHCARE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU OUTLINED, I'M NOT GOING TO DISMISS THAT. RIGHT. AND THE NEED FOR IT AND THE BARRIERS TO GET IT. I THINK WHERE I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT IS JUST GOVERNMENT TAKING THIS INTO THEIR HANDS. AND I KNOW I'VE ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE. HAVE ANY OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPALITIES LOOKED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND MY CONCERN WHEN THE ANSWER WAS NO IS WHY NOT? WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE, WHERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING THIS VERSUS NOT? THAT'S NOT FOR YOU TO ANSWER. THAT'S MORE OF JUST MY STATEMENT RIGHT NOW. A QUESTION I DO HAVE, AGAIN, REMIND ME WHO IS ADMINISTERING THIS. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM AND THE CLERK POTENTIALLY HAVING TO DO THIS. I'M CONCERNED ALSO WITH THE TOP OF OUR CITY ADMINISTRATION AND RESOURCES INTERNALLY TO MANAGE THE INFLUX OF THIS PROGRAM. SO ONE OF THE MAJOR MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE IS RICHARD, AND WE PURPOSELY USED HIS THRESHOLDS BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY PERSON, YOU KNOW, MANAGING A LOT OF THIS. SO HOW MUCH CAN HE TAKE? AND SO THAT'S WHY WE SWITCHED FROM A GRANT TO A REIMBURSEMENT. YOU KNOW, HE WOULD HAVE TO DO SO MUCH MORE PAPERWORK, RIGHT, TO TRACK THAT. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO BE REVISITING PEOPLE TO SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY SPENT IT ON THINGS, TO SEE IF WE WERE LOSING MONEY SOMEHOW. AND A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIMITING THIS TO HEALTHCARE.GOV, THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT, AGAIN, IS RESOURCES. SO IF THESE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY BEING SCREENED BY HEALTHCARE.GOV, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ADDITIONAL STEPS. RICHARD DOESN'T HAVE TO LIKE ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE'RE THROWING OUT THERE A LONG TIME AGO WAS HIM HAVING TO REVIEW ALL THE FORMS FOR EVERYBODY THAT WAS APPLYING FOR THIS. HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT IF THEY WENT THROUGH HEALTHCARE.GOV, BECAUSE THAT ACCOUNTS FOR SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO IT'D BE JUST AS EASY FOR HIM TO SAY, YOU KNOW, OKAY, IF IT'S GONE THROUGH HEALTHCARE.GOV, THEN THEN I'M GOOD. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE TAXPAYERS AND ALL THOSE THINGS WE. AND SO THE ONLY FORM THAT THEY REALLY HAVE TO PROVIDE IS THAT THEY LIVE OR WORK AND GROW CITY. AND AGAIN, IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT. SO AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THOSE. ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS THOUGH, THEY CAN GET THE REIMBURSEMENT. OKAY. I THINK THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS SO FAR. SO THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING, NOT JUST ABOUT THIS, BUT ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS IS, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE DOING IT? AND HOW DO WE KNOW WHETHER WE WERE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT? AND SO I WENT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WHERE IT SAYS THE INTENT OF THE PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE A BRIDGE BETWEEN WHEN AN EMPLOYEE DOES NOT HAVE INSURANCE AVAILABLE THROUGH THEIR EMPLOYER, AND WHEN THE EMPLOYER DOES OFFER HEALTH CARE, HEALTH CARE BENEFITS. SO, YOU KNOW, I TOOK THAT TO MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN GROVE CITY TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN PRIMARILY PART TIME WORKERS. YEAH. WHICH OF COURSE WOULD ULTIMATELY BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY ITSELF. AND THAT'S WHY I STARTED BRINGING UP, YOU KNOW, METRICS. AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE KNOW FOR SURE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE, WE'RE ACHIEVING ULTIMATELY THAT THAT GOAL. AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO THAT FOR, FOR ANYTHING THAT WE'RE SPENDING, SPENDING MONEY ON. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST MADE A COUPLE NOTES ON, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW, GOOD OR BAD, YOU KNOW, FAILURE WOULD BE THERE WOULD BE VERY FEW RECIPIENTS ACROSS VERY FEW BUSINESSES. RIGHT. AND WHAT'S WHAT'S THE POINT? SUCCESS WOULD BE MANY RECIPIENTS ACROSS MANY BUSINESSES, NOT JUST ONE BUSINESS, RIGHT? THE RECIPIENT DIVERSITY. IF YOU SAW, WOULD YOU SAY 150 APPROXIMATELY IS WHAT YOU IF YOU SAW 150 PEOPLE THAT THAT WERE RECIPIENTS AND THEY ALL HAD THE LAST NAME STURM, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM, RIGHT? WE, WE WOULD WANT IT'D BE LARGE FAMILY THAT HAS. YEAH, YEAH, I'VE GOT FIVE KIDS, BUT I'M NOT THERE YET. SO BUT WHAT WE. THE SUCCESS WOULD BE WE'D WANT TO SEE A GOOD, YOU KNOW, A SWATH OF DIVERSITY ACROSS, YOU KNOW, THAT REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL. WE LOCAL EMPLOYMENT, YOU KNOW, FEW RECIPIENTS WORKING IN THAT WORK IN GROVE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD NOT BE DESIRED. WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE IS A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING IN GROVE CITY. WE WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE ACTUALLY WAS THE ABILITY TO THAT THIS DID HELP PEOPLE HELP SMALL BUSINESSES TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN PART TIME WORKERS. NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, NOT BEING ABLE TO SHOW THAT WOULD[00:55:02]
BE FAILURE AND BEING ABLE TO SHOW THAT THAT ACTUALLY DID HAVE AN IMPACT WOULD BE WOULD BE SUCCESS. ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT ARE HIGH, REALLY HIGH. THAT'S NOT GOOD. LOW ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, ESPECIALLY COMPARATIVELY. IF YOU START LOOKING AT JUST THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, IF IT'S IF THE COST IS MORE THAN IT ENDS UP HELPING TO GENERATE, THAT'S NOT NOT GOOD. IF IT HELPS TO GENERATE A LOT MORE THAN IT COSTS, THAT'S A GREAT THING. WE WOULD WANT TO SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REPEATS EVERY YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR, BECAUSE WE'RE THE INTENT IS TO HELP PEOPLE KIND OF OVER THE HUMP AND HOPEFULLY THEY MOVE ON AND THEY'RE GETTING BETTER JOBS AND BETTER INSURANCE SCOPE CREEP. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE STARTING TO DEMAND, WELL, YOU SHOULD BE PAYING MY CO-PAYS TOO. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO KEEP IT AT, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR THE STATED INTENT IS WHAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, NOT, NOT JUST THE CONTINUE TO, TO, TO, TO BLOW IT UP, BUT THE INTENT, THE INTENT OF THIS IS I'M LOOKING AT IT IS THAT IT'S TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN WORKERS, PRIMARILY PART TIME WORKERS, AND HELPING THEM STAY HERE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THIS LITTLE, LITTLE ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL THING THAT THAT, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL STAY HERE AND THEY'LL GET ANOTHER JOB IN GROVE CITY AND JUST KEEP KEEP GOING FURTHER AND FURTHER. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE WHAT WE WOULD ENVISION IS RECRUITING BUSINESSES THROUGH LIKE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THEN HAVING EACH OF THE BUSINESSES THAT, THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO OFFER THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PART TIME OR, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKE THESE WAGES WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE OUR PAMPHLET OUT AND AVAILABLE FOR STAFF AND, AND MAKE IT PROMOTE IT AS AN ADDED BENEFIT BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF ORGANIZATIONS ALREADY OFFER SOME HELP, RIGHT? IF, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THEY DON'T OFFER FULL HEALTHCARE BENEFITS. BUT IF YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO HELP YOU BY SUCH AND SUCH, BUT THE CITY OF GROVE CITY IS ALSO ABLE TO DO THIS MUCH FOR YOU. AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY THERE'LL BE MORE PEOPLE THAT WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND AGAIN, TO YOUR POINT, THERE'LL BE MORE SMILES BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, HAD THAT HAPPEN TO THEM IN GROVE CITY AND, AND IN A BUSINESS IN GROVE CITY AND CONTINUE TO, TO UTILIZE THAT. AND BOTTOM LINE IS IF WE APPROPRIATE 75,000, SPENDING 75,000 DOES NOT MEAN SUCCESS. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN ALL.WE SPENT 75. WE SAW 150. NOW, NO, WE NEED TO HAVE WE NEED TO HAVE THE SUCCESS CRITERIA. AND OUR INTENT IS TO INTERVIEW ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT. OR DO A SURVEY OF BUSINESSES THAT DO UTILIZE IT BEFORE AND AFTER TWO. RIGHT? LIKE TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY FEEL NEXT YEAR ABOUT THIS, IF THEY'VE USED IT FOR THE PAST YEAR. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM IS THE TIMING. SO IT MAY TAKE A YEAR TO FIND OUT HOW SUCCESSFUL WE WERE, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT PEOPLE AREN'T ELIGIBLE TO SIGN UP FOR HEALTHCARE, YOU KNOW, EXCEPT FOR IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OR JANUARY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LIMITED TIME. SO LIKE THIS YEAR, IF IT WAS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP SOME PEOPLE THAT ALREADY GOT ON HEALTHCARE.GOV AND DID IT. BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD SEE MORE PEOPLE NEXT YEAR THAT KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HELP THEM. IF THEY USE HEALTHCARE.GOV, MORE PEOPLE WILL USE IT NEXT YEAR. SO IF WE SEE THAT 150 THIS YEAR, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS. BUT BUT IF WE DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT WOULD BE A FAILURE IF THE NUMBERS ARE REFLECTIVE, YOU KNOW, OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY GOT TO SIGN UP THIS YEAR AND MAYBE NEXT YEAR THEY'LL BE MORE. READY. WELL, I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH FIRST. I USUALLY DON'T SUPPORT GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HEALTH CARE. IN THIS CASE, HOWEVER, IT'S A PILOT AND IT'S REIMBURSEMENT, WHICH TAKES AWAY SOME OF MY FRAUD FEARS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY TO GET REIMBURSED. SO I KNOW THEY GOT THE COVERAGE, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO ALAN'S EXTREME ANALYSIS AT THE END AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE GROVE CITY RESIDENTS WORKING AT GROVE
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CITY BUSINESSES, AND THEY ARE LEGITIMATE CERTIFIED US CITIZENS. THAT'S PART OF THE HEALTHCARE.GOV THING. YEAH. WELL, I DON'T NECESSARILY TRUST HEALTHCARE.GOV TO DO THAT, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT AFTER THE FACT. SURE, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIGGEST CONCERNCE IS ABUSE OR, YOU KNOW, AS A GROVE CITY RESIDENT, YOU'RE PAYING TAXES AND YOU COULD LOOK AT THIS AS A LITTLE BIT OF A REFUND ON YOUR TAXES FOR THESE VERY FEW PEOPLE.AND AS A BUSINESS, YOU CAN SEE THIS AS A CARROT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INSURANCE WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT AS PART OF THE BUSINESS PREVIOUSLY. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ATTRACTING AND MAINTAINING PART TIME INDIVIDUALS IN RESTAURANTS AND PLACES LIKE THAT IS DIFFICULT. SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE MAYBE A LEG UP ON SOME OTHER CITIES OR BUSINESSES IF THEY WERE IN GROVE CITY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY POSITION. AND SO I'LL, I'M WILLING TO INVEST THE 75,000 AND THEN RUN IT THROUGH ALLEN'S ANALYSIS AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE AT THAT POINT. ABSOLUTELY. AND ALLEN DOESN'T KNOW, BUT WE SEE EYE TO EYE. I DO THAT ALL DAY AT WORK. MANY DO. YEAH. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS. I THINK WITH IT BEING A PILOT PROGRAM, I AM INTERESTED TO SEE HOW IT WILL RUN FOR THE FIRST YEAR. JUST A QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLT, IS THAT MENTIONED IN THE PACKET IN REGARDS TO CITIZENSHIP. IT'S IN THE ACTUAL IS THAT IN THE ACTUAL PROGRAM IT WAS SENT TO YOU TO EVERYBODY. IT WAS THE ACTUAL PROGRAM PACKET WITH THE APPLICATION AND EVERYTHING ALREADY DONE. I DID SEE THAT IN THERE. YEAH, IT'S IN THERE. I THINK IT'S IN THERE, BUT IT'S I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME. BUT IT WAS IN YOUR EMAIL. IT'S GOT ALL THE, IT'S GOT ALL OF IT IN THERE. AND THEN THIS IS IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE, YOU CAN EITHER BE A NONRESIDENT AS WELL AS A RESIDENT. CORRECT. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE WORKING IN GROVE CITY. THAT'S WHERE WE COLLECT THE TAX. YEAH. SO IF SOMEBODY IS WORKING IN GROVE CITY, THEY'RE PAYING INCOME TAX IN GROVE CITY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE INTO THE CITY.
OBVIOUSLY I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS BEFORE, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW MANY OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE. I'VE BEEN TO IHOP, I'VE BEEN TO CRACKER BARREL, I'VE BEEN TO I DON'T KNOW HOW AND I DON'T EAT OUT. A LOT OF THIS IS OVER A SPAN OF TIME. JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW I'M NOT EATING OUT EVERY NIGHT. BUT THEIR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS, IS GETTING PEOPLE TO WORK HERE, YOU KNOW, GETTING PEOPLE TO WORK IN THE CITY. AND WE, AS WE DISCUSSED WITH INCOME TAX, THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO BE IMPORTING PEOPLE TO WORK HERE IN ORDER TO PAY OUR TAX, IN ORDER TO STAY HERE, IN ORDER TO SUPPLY OUR BUSINESSES WITH WORKING LABOR. SO THAT IS VALID.
I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REFERENCE THAT EMPLOYERS AREN'T AREN'T ONLY HIRING YOU AS CITIZENS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE LAWFULLY IN THE US WITH GREEN CARDS AND VISAS THAT ARE ALSO EMPLOYED BY THESE SAME EMPLOYERS THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING, WHO I BELIEVE DO DESERVE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM. AND I GOT TO GO BACK TO THE EMAIL TO READ A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU REFERENCED. AND I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THE BIGGER UMBRELLA HERE IS AFFORDABILITY, RIGHT? MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING OR MAY NEED THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS HAVE ACCESS TO THESE FUNDS. BUT IN THE SAME BREATH, WE'RE ALSO LIMITING PEOPLE THAT ALSO MAY NEED ACCESS TO THESE FUNDS AS WELL.
AND THAT THAT TO ME IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M ABLE TO SUPPORT. SO YOU HAVE ME UP UNTIL THAT POINT. UP TILL WHAT POINT UP UNTIL THE CITIZENSHIP REQUIREMENT. I THINK IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND REVISE SO THAT IF YOU CAN APPLY THROUGH HEALTHCARE.GOV, YOU CAN GREEN CARD HOLDERS CAN APPLY THROUGH HEALTHCARE, AND THEY'RE LEGAL CITIZENS, THEY'RE LEGAL. THEY'RE LEGALLY IN THE US WITH A GREEN CARD OR A VISA. I MEAN, I THINK THEY NEED TO BE OKAY, LET'S. TWO QUICK THINGS. I THINK FOR ME, THE TWO REAL IMPORTANT THINGS IS UNDERLINED PILOT HEALTH CARE. OKAY, SO WE NEED SPECIFIC METRICS AND HOW DO WE WHICH ELLEN SAID, HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S A SUCCESS OR NOT A SUCCESS? AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT PORTION IS OVERHEAD VERSUS, YOU KNOW, ADVERTISING, THAT KIND OF THING? WHAT PORTION IS OVERHEAD
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VERSUS ACTUALLY HELPING PEOPLE? BECAUSE THAT CAN GET OUT OF KILTER. SO IF WE CAN TRACK THAT, I'M OKAY. ANY OTHER OKAY, THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION. YES, YES. GO AHEAD. UNDER ELIGIBILITY IN THE PACKET THAT'S ATTAINED HERE, IT SAYS NONRESIDENT INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN PROVE THEY WORK WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF GROVE CITY. THE NEXT BULLET SAYS INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF GROVE CITY AND WHO ARE RESIDENTS OF GROVE CITY DURING THE MONTHS FOR WHICH THEY ARE SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT, BUT DOES NOT SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK IN GROVE CITY. IT JUST SAYS THAT THEY'RE CURRENT RESIDENTS. YES. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. OKAY.BECAUSE I THINK SOMEBODY EARLIER SAID IF YOU LIVED IN GROVE CITY BUT WORKED OUTSIDE OF GROVE CITY, OR IF YOU WORK IN GROVE CITY, YOU HAVE TO, THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IS YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN GROVE CITY AND WORK IN GROVE CITY OR YOU I MEAN, YOU CAN WORK OUTSIDE OF GROVE CITY AND WORK IN GROVE CITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE INTENT, BUT IT DOESN'T STATE THAT HERE. OKAY, WELL, WE CAN BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DISCREPANCIES IN THE WRITING HERE. WELL, THIS IS THE FUNDING.
THIS IS NOT THE PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM WAS APPROVED BEFORE, BUT THEY THE COMMITTEE CAN ACTUALLY OFFER THAT CHANGE. BUT WHAT'S MENTIONED IN THE FUNDING IS NOT IT DOES THAT DOES THIS ALIGN WITH WHAT WAS SENT TO US VIA EMAIL? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T. BASED ON WHAT I'M READING.
TAMMY, DO YOU YOU SENT THIS STUFF OUT. I DON'T I PERSONALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD TABLE THIS UNTIL THIS IS THE FUNDING OF THE PROGRAM. IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL OUTLINE OF THE PROGRAM.
CORRECT. THE COUNCIL ALREADY APPROVED THE PROGRAM AND BY ORDINANCE IN LAST YEAR. SO IF THIS FUNDING GOES THROUGH, THEN THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO GO OFF AS IT'S STATED. WELL, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, CAN THEY MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE FUNDING ORDINANCE? YOU WOULD HAVE TO KNOW THE FUNDING IS JUST THIS IS JUST THE MONEY. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE PROGRAM, CLARIFY THAT, THEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT THROUGH A SEPARATE PIECE OF LEGISLATION. WE CAN DO THAT THE NEXT MEETING. JUST IN CASE THAT LANGUAGE IS NOT CORRECT. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING. DO A CORRECTION TO THE SO WOULD WE TABLE VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING OR POSTPONE? I MEAN, I WOULD RATHER VOTE ON IT AND THEN COME BACK WITH THE CORRECTION. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT ON THAT. WELL, IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE, SEPARATE PIECE OF LEGISLATION ANYWAY. BUT DOESN'T THE LEGISLATION DOESN'T THE PROGRAM OR I GUESS WHAT WAS SENT TO US VIA EMAIL ALIGN WITH THE FUNDING? SHOULDN'T THEY BOTH BE THE SAME? WE CAN CHANGE, CAN I? I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THE FUNDING. IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE PROGRAM TO SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE, I THINK. BUT JODY REED, THIS WAS THIS IS A DEFINITION OF ELIGIBILITY. AND MR. DONNELLY WROTE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF GROVE CITY AND WHO WERE RESIDENTS OF GROVE CITY DURING THE 12 MONTHS WHICH THEY ARE SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT. I SEE WHAT THIS THIS IS. HE WROTE IT THAT WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY IF THEY THEY HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT FOR THE FOR THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS THAT THEY ARE SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT FOR. SO THEY CAN'T. THEY CAN'T MOVE OUT BY, THEY COULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT INSURANCE IN JANUARY, LIVED IN COLUMBUS AND THEN MOVED IN COLUMBUS, MOVED INTO GROVE CITY IN AUGUST AND ARE NOW ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
RIGHT. SO YOU HAD TO BE HERE WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT, RIGHT? I THINK IS WHAT THAT IS TRYING TO GET ACROSS. DOES THAT HELP YOU? YES. AND THEN IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE NOT A RESIDENT, BUT YOU WORK HERE, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A PROOF OF EMPLOYMENT FOR THE TIME THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT. SAME THING. YOU HAVE TO BE WORKING HERE AND CONTRIBUTING FOR THE MONTHS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF YOUR INSURANCE PREMIUM. I MISS KELLY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE STATING, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME DISCREPANCIES IN THIS ATTACHED PACKET. ME UNDER VERIFICATION, IT SAYS DOCUMENTS PROVING THAT THE APPLICANT LIVES OR WORKS WITHIN THE CITY. IT DOESN'T. IT SAYS OR IT'S NOT. IT DOESN'T SAY WHO LIVES AND WORKS. THAT'S CORRECT. OR THEY'RE WORKING IN THE CITY. THAT'S AN ACCURATE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO YOU DON'T DO NOT HAVE TO WORK IN GROVE CITY TO GET. YOU CAN LIVE IN GROVE CITY AND NOT BE EMPLOYED AND
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GET THIS. YOU HAVE TO BE EMPLOYED. NO, I DON'T THINK SO. RIGHT. REPEAT YOUR QUESTION.SORRY. SO THIS THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION EARLIER THAT TALKED ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THESE ARE FOR NONRESIDENTS OR RESIDENTS WHO WORK IN GROVE CITY. BUT I'M CLARIFYING THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS DOCUMENT STATES THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK IN GROUPS OR WORK HAVE BE EMPLOYED. YOU CAN JUST GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR HEALTH CARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE WORK. YOU HAVE TO WORK RUSSIAN. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I MEAN, THIS, THIS HAS A THRESHOLD IN YOU. THIS HAS A THRESHOLD OF 30,000. IF YOU'RE COVERED UNDER ANOTHER 55, IT'S A FREE PROGRAM THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVES. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ASK FOR HEALTH CARE INSURANCE OR.GOV BECAUSE YOU GET IT FOR FREE. IF YOU ARE YOU ALSO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN INCOME. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. YOU JUST HAVE IN ORDER TO GO ON HEALTHCARE.GOV, LIKE I SPENT HOURS DOING THIS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN INCOME IN ORDER TO GET A PROGRAM. IF YOU MAKE LESS THAN WHAT THEY, WHAT THEIR LIMITS ARE, IT AUTOMATICALLY SENDS YOU TO MEDICAID OR MEDICARE. IT DOESN'T EVEN OFFER YOU A PROGRAM. JODY, I THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT BECAUSE I AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S OKAY. HEALTH CARE.GOV WORKS. SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A IT'S INTERESTING. OKAY. ARE YOU ASKING THOUGH? I DO WANT TO HAVE CLARIFICATION, RIGHT? YOU COULD LIVE HERE IN GROVE CITY BUT NOT WORK HERE. YOU COULD WORK IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND WORK IN GROVE CITY. OR SHE'S SAYING IT SAYS OR. SO THAT'S WHERE WE WANT CLARIFICATION THAT I DID HEAR IT EXPLAINED EARLIER THAT YOU COULD EITHER BE A RESIDENT HERE IN GROVE CITY, OR YOU COULD BE A RESIDENT ELSEWHERE, BUT WORK IN GROVE CITY. SO ARE YOU SAYING YOU COULD BE A RESIDENT HERE, BUT WORK AT A RESTAURANT IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS? WHEN WE'RE POSITIONING THIS AROUND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IN GROVE CITY, THAT'S. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO GET AT. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU PASSED THAT THAT STATEMENT. EXACTLY. THAT YOU COULD LIVE HERE IN GROVE CITY. SO IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF GROVE CITY, THIS PROGRAM COULD BE OFFERED TO YOU EVEN IF YOU DON'T WORK IN GROVE CITY OR IF YOU LIVE ELSEWHERE, BUT YOU WORK IN GROVE CITY. SO THIS PROGRAM IS NOT FULLY CENTERED AROUND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IN GROVE CITY. NO, IT'S ALSO SUPPORTING ITS RESIDENTS.
THAT'S VALID. BUT I, I THINK WHAT MISS BURROWS IS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE IS THE CLARIFICATION OF ELIGIBILITY AND WHAT WE'RE TRULY TRYING TO SUPPORT. ARE WE TRULY SUPPORTING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OR WE'RE SUPPORTING OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL? ABSOLUTELY. THEY PAY TAXES AND THAT'S FOR SOME THAT MIGHT BE VALID. THAT'S OUR INTENT. OKAY.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK IN GROVE CITY. THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN GROVE CITY, GROVE CITY, OR IT'S A, IT'S AN EITHER THAT'S NOT THIS IS NOT A FULL BENEFIT FOR WORKFORCE FORCE DEVELOPMENT HERE IN GROVE CITY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MOVE THAT IT BE APPROVED. SECOND, SECOND. MR. STERN YES. BURROWS.
YES. OMAR. NO. ANDERSON. NO. MALINGA. YES. BARRY. YES. HOLT. NO. MOTION APPROVED. OKAY. NEXT
[Ordinance C-14-26 Appropriate $1,142,950.96 from the County Permissive Motor Vehicle License Fund for the Current Expense of the 2026 Street Maintenance Program and the McDowell Road Project. Second reading and public hearing. ]
IS THE ORDINANCE C 1426. APPROPRIATE $1,142,950.96 FROM THE COUNTY. PERMISSIVE MOTOR VEHICLE LICENSE FUND FOR THE CURRENT EXPENSE OF THE 2026 STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AND THE MCDOWELL ROAD PROJECT. THIS WILL BE THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. DID THE ADMINISTRATION WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS AT ALL? SURE. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. THIS PARTICULAR MONEY IS GENERATED WHEN RESIDENTS OF GROVE CITY PURCHASED THEIR LICENSE PLATES.$5 OF THAT GOES INTO THE FUND THAT IS ADMINISTERED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER'S OFFICE. THEY DESIGNATE CERTAIN STREETS WITH NOT ONLY WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT MOVE TRAFFIC EFFICIENTLY THROUGH THE COUNTY. THESE FUNDS HAVE BEEN GENERATED FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS OF COLLECTION. THE STREETS THAT WILL BE THIS WILL GO TO IS BROADWAY, HOOVER ROAD, WHITE ROAD, AND BUCKEYE PARKWAY. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK TO THIS? OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NO. ALL RIGHT. THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MOVE THAT IT BE APPROVED. SECOND. BURROWS. YES. OMAR. YES. ANDERSON. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND
[Resolution CR-11-26 Authorize participation in the Ohio Department of Transportation Contract for Road Salt.]
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LASTLY, WE HAVE RESOLUTION C R 1126. THIS IS AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION IN THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CONTRACT FOR ROAD SALT. ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE DEBATE. RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND A MOVE TO BE APPROVED SECOND. OMAR. YES. ANDERSON. YES. YES. YES. HOLT. STURM. YES. BURROWS. YES.PRESIDENT. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL CLOSING COMMENTS. AND THEN THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR A SHORT PERIOD TO DISCUSS AN EMPLOYMENT ISSUE. SO WITH THAT MAYOR, WHAT'S THAT?
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OH, I'M SORRY, NEW BUSINESS WE GOT. GEEZ, IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT ALREADY. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ANDREW ALL. HOW DO YOU SAY IT, SIR? OLESZCZUK WALLACE. OH, CHUCK. OLESZCZUK. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I HAD A SPEECH TODAY. READY? IS IT TWO? HE'S AT 2001 CANDLE CANDLE NUT CIRCLE, GROVE CITY, OHIO 43123. THIS IS CONCERNING THE DATA CENTER. AGAIN, TO NO ONE'S SURPRISE, I HAD A SPEECH READY UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TODAY THAT FOLLOWING MY MOST RECENT SPEECH, I HAVE BEEN DEFAMED BY AN ALLEGED OHIO NEWS SOURCE CALLING ITSELF THE PENNANT. IN THIS ARTICLE, THEY CLAIMED THAT MY CITATION OF STUDIES CONDUCTED ON THE AERIAL EMISSIONS OF DATA CENTERS, INCLUDING MICRO PARTICULATES AND NITROGEN DIOXIDE, WAS PROOF THAT I AM BEING BACKED BY DUPLICITOUS AND INTENTIONALLY VAGUELY DEFINED ENVIRONMENTAL LITIGATORS. THEY CLAIMED IN A VERY ROUNDABOUT MANNER, THAT I AM A PUPPET OF SORTS FOR SHADY POLITICAL LOBBIES, AND THAT I AM SECRETLY A REPRESENTATIVE FOR NEBULOUSLY DEFINED ANTI-BUSINESS INTERESTS FROM OUTSIDE OF GROVE CITY. THEY CLAIMED, MOST INSULTINGLY OF ALL, THAT MY SPEECHES AGAINST THE DATA CENTER ARE AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF THE VERY CITY THAT I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT ON BEHALF OF. NOW, THE PENNANT DID NOT HAVE THE SPINE TO NAME ME SPECIFICALLY IN THEIR ACCUSATION. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO. IT WAS VERY CLEAR WHOSE SPEECH THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. I ALSO FIND IT CONVENIENT THAT THE PENNANT DID NOT EXIST AS A JOURNALISTIC BODY, AND I CHECKED UNTIL THE EXACT SAME TIME THAT GROVE CITY'S RESIDENTS BEGAN ORGANIZING AGAINST THE DATA CENTER ONLINE. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THEY DID NOT EXIST PRIOR TO MARCH OF THIS YEAR. LET ME ASSURE THIS GOVERNING BODY AND THE RESIDENTS OF GROVE CITY. I'M NOT FUNDED BY ANYONE TO SAY. THE THINGS I'M SAYING ABOUT THIS DATA CENTER. TO INSINUATE OTHERWISE IS A KNOWING AND INTENTIONAL LIE. I DO THIS FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME, BUT I AM NOW CERTAIN OF TWO THINGS. FIRST, THAT I AND THE PEOPLE OF GROVE CITY ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS. WE HAVE MADE OUR VOICES CLEAR ON THIS MATTER. WE KNOW WE DO NOT WANT THIS. AND SECONDLY, WE CAN ACTUALLY RELAX ON ONE POINT. WE NO LONGER HAVE TO GUESS IF HEADWATER TO HEADWATER DEVELOPERS IS COMING TO THE TABLE IN GOOD FAITH ABOUT THE DATA CENTER PROJECT, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL BUT PROOF THAT THEY, OR AT THE VERY LEAST, THEIR SUPPORTERS ARE NOT WILLING TO INTERACT IN GOOD FAITH, EVEN IF THEY'RE PRETENDING AT TRANSPARENCY AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS TOMORROW. OTHERWISE, THEIR SUPPORTERS WOULD NOT RESORT TO SUCH DISHONEST TACTICS WHILE PRETENDING TO BE NEUTRAL JOURNALISTS. BY THE WAY, THE ACTUAL EXPERTS ON DATA CENTERS ARE MEETING AT A AT URBAN CREST PAVILION THIS FRIDAY AT 6 P.M. I PROMISE THEY'LL BE MUCH MORE HONEST THAN HEADWATER IS LIKELY TO BE AT THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS TOMORROW AND WEDNESDAY. THANK YOU. WE ALSO HAVE. CATHY. HOW ARE YOU, MISS BECKER? NOW, I'LL GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY ON CATHY. SHE HELPED THE CITY WITH ELECTRIC. THE ELECTRIC AGGREGATION CAMPAIGN. SHE CO-CHAIRED THAT EFFORT WITH ME.SO DID CATHY A LONG TIME. YEAH, YEAH. CERTAINLY HAVE. SO, I DON'T KNOW YOUR ADDRESS? 5693 ENNIS DRIVE. ARISTOCRAT. ARISTOCRAT. SO YEAH, I. MY NAME IS CATHY COWAN BECKER. I LIVED IN GROVE CITY FOR 17 YEARS. I KNOW A FEW PEOPLE HERE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE ON COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW STILL. AND WE MOVED TO HILLIARD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FOR MY HUSBAND'S COMMUTE. AND I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO TELL THE STORY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN HILLIARD WITH DATA CENTERS THERE. THERE'S THREE AMAZON DATA CENTERS IN HILLIARD. THEY WERE APPROVED AROUND 2022. THE CITY THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD BRING IN MONEY FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND LET'S SEE, I THINK WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. SO LAST YEAR THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED A LAW CALLED. IT WAS HOUSE BILL 15. IT'S NOW LAW. AND WITHIN THAT IS SOME PROVISIONS THAT ANY LARGE ENERGY USER. AND THEY SPECIFICALLY HAD IN MIND A DATA
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CENTER. THEY SAID, THAT CAN NOW GET STATE APPROVAL TO BUILD A MAJOR UTILITY FACILITY IS WHAT IT'S CALLED OF 50MW OR MORE. AND WHAT THEY MEAN IS A METHANE FRACKED GAS PLANT ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY TO POWER THE DATA CENTER BEHIND THE METER. IT WOULDN'T GO TO THE GRID. THE POWER WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO THE DATA CENTER. AND THIS COULD BE DONE IN 45 DAYS TO GET THIS APPROVAL. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO NOTIFY THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, NO PUBLIC HEARING, NO PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION. AND THERE'S ALSO THEY DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO LOCAL OFFICIALS ABOUT IT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE IT THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. AND SO THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN HILLIARD. SO THEY'RE ONE OF THE AMAZON DATA CENTERS, THE ONE ON SCIOTO DARBY CREEK ROAD. THEY DECIDED TO PUT IN THE LARGEST FRACKED GAS FUEL CELL IN NORTH AMERICA, A FUEL CELL POWERED BY GAS, NOT BY HYDROGEN. AND IT WOULD IT'S GOING TO IT'S 73MW, WHICH MAKES IT ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD. AND IT WOULD EMIT OR IT WILL EMIT 1.5 MILLION TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE PER DAY, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT OF IF YOU PARK 66,000 CARS THERE AND JUST RAN THEM 24 OVER SEVEN. AND THIS IS BUILDING THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO A LARGE SUBDIVISION, A SCHOOL, A PARK. COLUMBUS HUMANE IS RIGHT THERE. THERE'S OTHER SUBDIVISIONS. AND ALL THIS WAS DONE WITH NO CONSULTATION WITH LOCAL OFFICIALS. AND SO WHEN THIS LAW PASSED, I ACTUALLY TRIED TO TALK TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON PLANNING AND ZONING, AND THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE ME. THEY WOULDN'T BE CONSULTED, BUT THEY WERE NOT. AND THIS WAS TOTALLY APPROVED ON THE STATE LEVEL. SO I GUESS I JUST REALLY WANT YOU ALL IN GROVE CITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU APPROVE A DATA CENTER, THEN THIS DATA CENTER CAN DO THAT. NOT ALL OF THEM DO. THERE ARE TWO OTHER DATA CENTERS IN GROVE CITY THAT HAVEN'T PUT THIS IN. BUT THIS IS HAPPENING AND IT CAN HAPPEN. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S NEXT TO HOMES AND SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES. THEY CAN AND WILL DO THAT. AND I JUST REALLY WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT DATA CENTERS. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. THANK YOU KELLY. THANK YOU. NICE TO SEE YOU. PATRICIA.PATRICIA SPILLMAN, PLEASE. IS SHE HERE? YEAH, 496. I CAN ACTUALLY READ YOUR HANDWRITING.
44965 BEATTY ROAD. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MAYOR STAGE. MY NAME IS PATRICIA SPILLMAN AND I LIVE AT 4965 BEATTY ROAD. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WITH THE UPCOMING OPEN HOUSES ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY, HOSTED BY HEADQUARTERS SITE DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN NO LONGER IGNORE THE FACT THAT A MAJOR DATA CENTER DEVELOPER IS INTERESTED IN CONSTRUCTING CONSTRUCTING A CENTER IN OUR COMMUNITY. I'VE WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE EXTENSIVE SURVEYING OF THE OLD FARM JUST NORTH OF OUR FARM THIS PAST WEEK, AND HAVE HAD TO POLITELY ASK THE COMPANY CONDUCTING THE AMBIENT SOUND TESTING TO PLEASE REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM OUR FIELDS. I DO FIND IT SICKENING, HOWEVER, THAT THE CITY SITS ON ONE HAND PROMOTING THIS PAST WEEKEND'S ECO FEST, ENCOURAGING EVERYONE TO BIKE WITH IK, GO GREEN AND PLANT A TREE, WHILE ON THE OTHER. WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE NO SHOW OF SUPPORT TO. PUTTING A STOP TO THE DESTRUCTION OF VITAL AND PRODUCTIVE FARMLAND FOR THE EXPANSION OF A DATA CENTER THAT WE ALL SEEM TO KNOW NOW IS COMING. ISAAC AND ELIZABETH SPILLMAN IMMIGRATED FROM PRUSSIA IN THE MID 1800S AND PURCHASED 50 ACRES ON JULY 2ND OF 1861. OUR FAMILY FARM HAS EXPANDED OVER THE YEARS, BUT WE. WE ARE STILL STEWARDS OF THOSE ORIGINAL 50 ACRES. SPILLMAN FARMS WAS GRANTED AN OHIO SESQUICENTENNIAL CERTIFICATION IN JULY OF 2023. EXACTLY 162 YEARS AFTER ISAAC FIRST PURCHASED IT. MY HUSBAND BOB AND MY SON JEFFREY ARE NOW THE SIXTH AND SEVENTH GENERATION FARMING THOSE FIELDS.
MORE THAN 2300 REGISTERED HISTORICAL FARMS ARE IN THE STATE OF OHIO, BUT ONLY SEVEN ARE IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. AND WE ARE PROUD AND HONORED TO BE AMONG THOSE FEW. SO MANY LOOK AT A BARE AND EMPTY FIELD AND SEE NOTHING. WE SEE THE GROUND WAITING TO BE OPENED FROM THE LONG WINTER, WAITING TO BE WORKED AND READY FOR PLANNING. AND WE SEE ALL THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A BOUNTIFUL HARVEST. GOD WILLING, WHEN YOU ALLOW THIS TYPE OF DESTRUCTION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY ARE YOU DESTROYING OUR HOMES AND OUR WAY OF LIFE, BUT ALSO THE ECOSYSTEM THAT SURVIVES AND THRIVES ALONGSIDE US, THE NATIVE WILDLIFE WILL ALSO BE
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IMPACTED AND FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES. THOSE OF US WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE OUT IN THE TOWNSHIPS CHOOSE THAT WAY OF LIFE FOR A REASON. WE LOVE HAVING THE CONVENIENCE OF BEING CLOSE TO TOWN, BUT ALSO THE PEACE AND QUIET THAT COMES WITH BEING IN THE TOWNSHIPS. IS THIS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO RUIN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR HOMETOWN WITH? LET ME POSE THIS QUESTION TO EACH ONE OF YOU. IF THIS IS A TRULY UNAVOIDABLE IN OUR WORLD TO COME, THEN CAN WE NOT WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A MORE SUITABLE PLACE AND ENVIRONMENT FOR THESE DATA CENTERS? THANK YOU MA'AM. I OVERLOOKED A D DELANEY. IF YOU GIVE YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR PENMANSHIP IS VERY NICE, BY THE WAY. THANK YOU'D. DELANEY. I LIVE AT 5384 HAAN ROAD IN JACKSON TOWNSHIP. I'M HERE REPRESENTING A GROUP OF NEIGHBORS AND HOMEOWNERS WHO CURRENTLY LIVE ON THE COUNTRY ON HAAN ROAD, NEAR THE NEW OVERPASS ON THE WEST SIDE OF I 71. I REPRESENT 16 NON ANNEX LANDOWNERS THAT REPRESENT 215 PLUS ACRES, INCLUDING 130 ACRES BY REBECCA PRYOR. SINCE APRIL 2025, THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY SURVEY, AN EMINENT DOMAIN MATERIALS WERE MAILED TO OUR HOMES. MANY OF US HAVE ENGAGED WITH CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND OUR EMINENT DOMAIN ATTORNEYS AND MEMBERS OF THE GROVE CITY ADMINISTRATION, INCLUDING THE MAYOR. AND. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE. THAT WILL BE MADE, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, AND THAT OUR VOICES, SUGGESTIONS HAVE TO BE BROUGHT HERE. SO WE'RE HERE. WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE OVERPASS, CONNECTING THE STREETS AND WIDENING THE ROADS TO MAKE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. WE GET ALL THAT. BUT THE EXACT PLACEMENT OF THE ROUNDABOUTS, THE CHOICES OF EXACTLY WHERE TO CONNECT ON ROAD WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MISERY AND NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR SAFETY AND LIVELIHOODS, COULD USE ROOM FOR INPUT. WE WERE TOLD THAT CITY COUNCIL MAKES ITS DECISIONS BASED ON CITY PLANNING TEAM'S RECOMMENDATIONS. SO WE'RE COMING TO YOU WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. FIRST, WHEN THE OVERPASS COMES ACROSS I-71 AND LANDS ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S A PLANNED ROUNDABOUT.THAT PLACEMENT OF THE FIRST ROUNDABOUT IS CRITICAL TO THE HOMEOWNERS LIVING CLOSEST TO THE PLACEMENT. ADDITIONALLY, THE PLANNED SEWER AND DRAINAGE WILL BE GOING RIGHT THROUGH THE HOMEOWNERS BUILDINGS, HOMES, DRIVEWAYS AND FRONT PORCHES. THESE HOMEOWNERS ARE RICHARD AND GERI BLAKEY, RON AND AMELIA MCCLURE, CARL MORGAN AND HIS DISABLED SON. WE HAVE ALSO STRONGLY SUGGESTED OVER A YEAR AGO THAT THE EAST WEST SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BY CONNECTING TO HAHN ROAD USING ONLY THE SOUTH CURVE OF THE FIRST ROUNDABOUT EXITING NEAR THE VITALITY CENTER. THIS WOULD FURTHER ELIMINATE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE FRONT YARDS AND DRIVEWAYS OF THE ROSALES'S, THE BLAKEY'S AND MCCLURE'S, THE LILIES, THE JACOBS AND THE PRIOR PROPERTIES. WE STRONGLY ADVOCATE FOR THIS TO BE THE ONLY EAST WEST CONNECTION, SO WE COULD CONTINUE TO ENJOY OUR HOMESTEAD FARMS AND BUSINESSES AS THEY CURRENTLY SIT. ALSO, A SECOND ROUNDABOUT PENCILED IN THE PLANS WOULD COMPLETELY OBLITERATE THE FRONT AND SIDE YARDS OF GEORGE AND TAMMY JACOBS, WHO ALSO HAVE A DOG BREEDING BUSINESS, AND AS WELL AS OVER 20 ACRES OF LAND AND FARMLAND IN THE FRONT YARD OF REBECCA PRYOR, WHO HAS LIVED IN HER ANCESTRAL HOME ALL HER LIFE, SHE ENJOYS PEACE AND QUIET AND HAVING A HEAVILY TRAFFICKED, DANGEROUS CORNER RIGHT OUTSIDE HER FRONT DOOR WOULD NOT BE ENJOYABLE FOR HER. THE INCREASED TRAFFIC PROJECTED HERE IS ALSO A HUGE SAFETY RISK. WE STRONGLY ADVOCATE THAT THE SECOND ROUNDABOUT BE MOVED FURTHER WEST PAST THE JACOBSON PRYOR CORNER, SOUTH OF THE FRIAR PARK BALL DIAMONDS. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR YOU TO NOT TAKE OUT TWO VITAL BUSINESS HOMEOWNERS FRONT AND SIDE YARDS. WE WELCOME SOME OF THE UPDATES AND THE WIDENING TO MAKE THE STREETS SAFER, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTER. AND WE ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL VERY SERIOUSLY CONSIDER OUR VOICES WHEN DIRECTING THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENTS. WE WANT TO HAVE OUR COLLECTIVE VOICE VERY MUCH, MA'AM, SO THAT WE CAN REMAIN THE LAST 15 TO 20 YEARS OF OUR LIVES. THREE MINUTES IS ALL WE GET. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR OUR VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES. THAT CONCLUDES. THAT CONCLUDES.
WHAT'S THAT PROPOSE THAT WE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS DO TO REVIEW THE 2050 PLAN? WELL,
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WE CAN DO THAT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. OKAY, MAYOR. YOUR REPORT SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO NOT HAVE A MAYOR'S REPORT THIS EVENING. SOME THINGS TO REPORT ON. WE DID HAVE A GREAT ECO FEST, AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE SPELLMAN FAMILY AND THEIR HERITAGE BECAUSE IT IS A RICH HERITAGE. THE THE ECO FEST WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST[01:30:04]
ATTENDED WE'VE HAD FOR FOR A LONG TIME. OF COURSE, WE HAD WEATHER CONFLICTS AND SOME PRIOR YEARS, BUT IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT EVENT JUST TO MENTION IT. IT'S THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF FLIERS PIZZA. THEY HAD A DEAL SATURDAY. IT ALSO IS THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE ROTARY CLUB.THEY HAD A DEAL SATURDAY NIGHT, AND THEN THERE WAS A JAZZ CONCERT ON FRIDAY NIGHT. SO IT WAS A VERY BUSY WEEKEND HERE IN GROVE CITY. WE HAD THE OPENING OF THE COBBLESTONE PLACE ON LAMPLIGHTER, AND A LOT OF GOOD COVERAGE, AS I MENTIONED THAT THIS MORNING, WE ARE NOT NEW TO HAVING SENIOR SUBSIDIZED HOUSING IN GROVE CITY. MATTER OF FACT, THE OLDEST ONE WE CAN FIND IS 1982 MELODY MANOR, WHICH IS STILL IN OPERATION, AND GROVE WOOD, WHICH WAS IN THE 90S BY LUTHERAN SOCIAL SERVICES. SO IT WAS A KIND OF A WE'VE KIND OF DONE OUR THING AND CONTINUE TO DO IT AND DOING THE RIGHT THING, PARTICULARLY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SENIORS. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU, MAYOR CHUCK.
ANYTHING I JUST A COUPLE THINGS. JUST A REMINDER THAT NEXT MEETING WILL HAVE THE LEGISLATION ON FOR THE BROADWAY LIVE AGREEMENT. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MEET ON THAT AND DISCUSS IT IN FURTHER DETAIL, BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU. AND ALSO, WE'VE COMPLETED OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES FOR A NEW THREE YEAR CONTRACT. AND HOPEFULLY, IF THAT GETS FINISHED, IN TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT ITSELF, THAT WILL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA. AND JUST LIKE THAT, THAT I DROVE FIVE MINUTES TO SAY THAT. AND I WILL BE STAYING IN GROVE CITY TONIGHT. AT THE BOZO ESTATE DEPARTMENT HEADS. ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON? WOW. OKAY, STEVEN, ANYTHING TO REPORT ON? NO, SIR. MISS KELLY, ANYTHING TO REPORT ON? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. STEVEN, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THE THE LITTLE SECTION THAT I HAVE TO SAY HERE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION COMMENTS FROM. OH, WE CAN DO THAT NOW. I GUESS WE COULD. YEAH. MISS. MISS BURROWS. YEAH.
THANK YOU, MR. PERRY. A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST, AGAIN, THIS IS DISTRACTED DRIVING SAFETY MONTH.
JUST REMINDED I SAID THAT THE LAST MEETING. BUT I WANT TO SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT INCREASED PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC OUT THERE. SO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU'RE AT A STOP SIGN OR TURNING LEFT OR RIGHT. WATCH OUT FOR EVERYBODY ON BIKES AND SCOOTERS AND GOLF CARTS AND JUST AGAIN, HAVE GRACE AND GIVE SPACE. AND I JUST WANTED TO ECHO MAYOR STAGE.
WE BOTH ATTENDED THAT RIBBON CUTTING THIS MORNING AT COBBLESTONE MANOR. IT IS A COLUMBUS METROPOLITAN HOUSING ASSOCIATION'S FIRST PROJECT HERE IN GROVE CITY. THIS PLAN WAS PASSED BACK IN 2020. IT IS 82 APARTMENTS FOR SENIOR LIVING. I TALKED TO SEVERAL RESIDENTS TODAY. THEY ARE SO THRILLED TO BE THERE. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. THERE'S 882 UNITS WITH EIGHT NO.
SIX, TWO BEDROOM UNITS AND ALL THE REST ARE SINGLE SINGLE BEDROOM UNITS. TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STOP IN, THEY'LL GIVE YOU TOURS. CHECK IT OUT. IT'S REALLY A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE THAT IN IN GROVE CITY. THANK YOU. ELLEN. YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK. SO IN THE SPIRIT OF AMERICA'S BIRTHDAY, 250TH BIRTHDAY, YESTERDAY WAS THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE START OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY WAR WITH THE BATTLES OF LEXINGTON AND CONCORD ON APRIL 19TH, 1775. IT WAS TRIGGERED PRIMARILY BY BRITISH IMPOSING A SERIES OF DEEPLY UNPOPULAR LAWS AND TAX RAISES. CHECK OUT THE. MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SHOULD CHECK OUT THE AMERICAN TWO 50.ORG AND AMERICA TWO 50-OHIO.ORG. ALL KINDS OF EVENTS AND THINGS GOING ON THERE. IT WAS MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES, BUT IF YOU WERE NOT AWARE, THERE IS AN OPEN HOUSE TOMORROW AND WEDNESDAY AT THE MID-OHIO FOOD COLLECTIVE STARTING AT 5:00 ABOUT THE DATA CENTER. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
GIVE THEM YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS AND SHOULD BE SHOULD BE INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST.
THANK YOU. WELL, YES. SO JUST A COUPLE EXCITING THINGS THAT I DID SINCE OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING. I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO MEET WITH THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR HAMMONDS, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I GOT A PRETTY DECENT TOUR AND LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY HELPING, YOU KNOW, KEEPING OUR KEEP OUR COMMUNITY MOVING. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING. I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE KEEP GROVE CITY BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE. SOME REALLY COMMITTED PEOPLE TO HELPING KEEP OUR COMMUNITY POSITIVE AND
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SUSTAINABLE. ON THAT COMMITTEE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL TO TAKE TIME TO GO MEET WITH THEM. THEY ARE VERY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT OUR IDEAS AND SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT IS ALL FOR ME. AND THEN ONE LAST THING ACTUALLY, SORRY. ECHOING WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER STURM HAS MENTIONED IN REGARDS TO THE DATA CENTER OF TOWN HALL FORUM, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, OPEN HOUSE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO ATTEND SO THEY CAN HEAR DIRECTLY FROM YOU ALL AS TO WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE AS AS THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES. FROM A TRANSPARENCY STANDPOINT, THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS TO MEET WITH, I BELIEVE, ALL OF US ON COUNCIL, AND I HAVE HAD ONE MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPERS.AND YEAH, THAT'S JUST HOW THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN FOR ME. SO THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO EXTEND AN APPRECIATION AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO DOES COME OUT AND WHO SPEAKS THROUGH NEW BUSINESS, WHO ALSO SENDS LETTERS TO COUNCIL. SO APPRECIATE CONTINUING TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM. SO THANK YOU, GEORGE. ONCE AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, AND I THANK EVERYONE FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSY SCHEDULES TO SHOW UP AT THE MEETING. AND IT'S GREAT. THE TWO OTHER THINGS I ATTENDED THE RED, WHITE AND BOOM CAR SHOW GET TOGETHER. THERE WAS AT BROOK PARK. THIS PAST WEEKEND WAS A FUN EVENT. HOPEFULLY WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. NOT ONLY ALLOWED ME TO SHOW OFF ONE OF MY ONE OF MY PACKARD'S 22 PACKARD, BUT IT ALLOWED ME TO TALK TO A LOT OF THE CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS AND WHAT WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. THEIR SHAME THERE WEREN'T MORE CARS. THERE WERE MORE MANY MORE PEOPLE THAN CARS. BUT HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL GET SOME MORE CARS IN THERE AND. SAME THING WITH THE DATA CENTERS. EVERYONE ON COUNCIL, I'M SURE, IS TRYING TO ACCUMULATE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS THEY CAN ON DATA CENTERS. I'VE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER 2 OR 3 TIMES AND OTHER GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN STRONGLY OPPOSED TO IT. SO OUR JOB IS TO NOT ONLY GET ALL THAT INFORMATION, BUT ALSO GAUGE THE PULSE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AS FAR AS WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO.
SO THE LAST THING IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR TO GO THROUGH THE 2050. PROGRAM, AND I LIKE TO PUT THAT ON COUNCIL'S AGENDA FOR ONE OF THE COMING, COMING MEETINGS SO WE CAN REVIEW THE INFORMATION IS REAL EYE OPENING FOR ME. SO WITH THAT, I PASS ANY. OVER THE PAST WEEK, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE GROVE CITY HIGH SCHOOL SHOW CHOIR AND THE GROVE CITY HIGH SCHOOL JAZZ BAND, AND AS A GROVE CITY HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THAT WAS REALLY ENTERTAINING AND LIGHTNING TO SEE THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE AND THEIR APPRECIATION AND ABILITY WITH THE MUSICAL ARTS. ON TO THE CARES LEGISLATION. JUST A LITTLE INFORMATION ON MY POSITION. I BELIEVED IT WAS A GROVE CITY RESIDENT AND A GROVE CITY BUSINESS, AND THAT'S WHY I DEFERRED MY YES VOTE. I THOUGHT IT WAS BOTH OF THOSE. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WENT. THANK YOU. STEVEN, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US OUR MOTION? FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T GET TO GIVE YOU ANYTHING, BUT I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION.
MAKE A SUGGESTION? I BELIEVE YOU WISH TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER REVISED CODE SECTION ONE 2120 2G1 TO CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENT OR EMPLOYMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE. THAT'S THE MOTION. I'M MAKING THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? JORDAN. GEORGE.
CORRECT. SECOND. GEORGE. SECONDED. YEP. AND THERE'S WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO ADJOURN.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT THE END OF THIS. ANDERSON. THANKS. STEVEN WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. THERE IS A WE ARE GOING BACK TO DISCUSS A POSITION HERE IN THE CITY HIRING SOMEBODY. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE ACTION WHEN THEY COME BACK OUT, BUT THAT WILL BE THE. IF THEY DO DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING, THAT WILL BE THE EXTENT OF WHAT OCCURS ONCE THEY RETURN. JUST IN CASE YOU ALL DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT TO SEE HOW IT ENDED. THANK YOU THOUGH, FOR CLARIFYING THAT, ANDERSON. YES. YES YES YES YES. YES. OMAR. NOBT SOMEBODY. I THOUGHT SOMEBODY
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WAS SAYING THEY DID. I SAY, ALL RIGHT, I MOVE THAT WE RETURN FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. TAMMY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? YES. GIVE ME A SECOND. YEAH, YEAH. RECONVENE THE MEETING.OKAY. WE RECONVENE. YES, YES YES YES YES YES YES, YES. YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. AND I CAN USE THE NAME HERE. RIGHT? YES, SIR. YES. AS CHAIRMAN OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE INTERVIEWED MULTIPLE CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITION OF DEPUTY OF CLERK OF COUNCILS, AND WE ARE SUBMITTING THE NAME OF TRICIA TISHA EDWARDS AS THE APPOINTED CLERK, DEPUTY CLERK. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND VOTE? JUST TO CLARIFY, IN THE SECOND, YOU ARE APPOINTING HER TO THE SALARY THAT SHE SUBMITTED, JUST SO THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING, AND TO THE SALARY THAT SHE SUBMITTED IN HER APPLICATION. I APPROVED OF THAT EDITION. OKAY, WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE, ERIC. YES, HOLT. YES, SIR. YES. YES. OMAR. YES. ANDERSON. YES. YES.
OKAY. THAT IS THE BUSINESS FOR THE COUNCIL FOR THE DAY. AND
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.