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CITY COUNCIL IS NOW IN SESSION. IF YOU'D PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. CLERK, PLEASE READ THE ROLL. MR. OMAR. PRESIDENT ANDERSON HERE.
MALINGA HERE. BERRY. HERE. HOLT. STURM.
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HERE. BOROS. WE'RE ALL HERE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ONE SET OF MINUTES TO APPROVE. HAVE A SECOND, MISS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXCUSE ME? THAT'S RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO EXCUSE MISS BOROS BEFORE WE MOVE ON. SO I NEED A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OMAR. YES,[Welcome & Reading of Agenda]
ANDERSON. YES. YES. YES. YES. STURM. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NOW LET'S DO THE MINUTES.I HAVE A SECOND ON THE MINUTES. SECOND. ANDERSON. YES, YES. YES. YES. YES. OMAR. YES. OKAY. ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA WE HAVE UNDER LANDS ORDINANCE C 1626, ORDINANCE C 2026. UNDER SAFETY WE HAVE ORDINANCE C 1526. UNDER FINANCE WE ARE GOING TO. IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIRS WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RESOLUTION CR 1426 FIRST IN THAT ORDER TO ADDRESS. BECAUSE IT'S IN A NICE FLOW ORDER. IS ALL THE CHAIRS OKAY WITH THAT TO MOVE THAT? OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ORDINANCE C 1826. ORDINANCE C 2926, ORDINANCE C 2126 AND THEN RESOLUTION CR1526.
[Ordinance C-16-26 Accept the Annexation of 15.3+ acres located South and West of Haughn Road in Jackson Township to the City of Grove City. Second reading and public hearing.]
ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE TO LANDS WITH. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST ITEM UNDER LANDS IS ORDINANCE.MR. HELLINGA, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON, PLEASE? YEP. SORRY ABOUT THAT, FOLKS. FIRST ITEM IS ORDINANCE C-16-26. ACCEPT THE ANNEXATION OF 15.3 ACRES LOCATED SOUTH AND WEST OF HAHN ROAD IN JACKSON TOWNSHIP TO THE CITY OF GROVE CITY. THIS IS THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE LIST TO SPEAK TO THIS? APPLICANT? IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THAT? YES. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK IN REGARD TO THIS? ONLY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. OKAY. LET'S SEE. IS SAFETY DIRECTOR DID AN INSPECTION TODAY. IS HE AVAILABLE? AND COULD YOU GO THROUGH THE.
ITEMS THAT. WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. PRESIDENT, ON ONE OF OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE INSPECTORS DID INSPECT THE PROPERTY TODAY AND WE FOUND THE FOLLOWING VIOLATIONS. THERE WERE NO HARDSCAPE INSTALLED FOR THE DRIVEWAY OR THE PARKING AREA. ONLY GRAVEL WAS THERE, WHICH WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE THERE'S DANDY BAG STILL PRESENT ON STORM DRAINS. THE HIGH WEEDS IN THE REAR COMMERCIAL LOT. THE LEFT GARAGE DOOR HAS LOOSE SOFFIT OR SEMI TRAILERS USED FOR STORAGE. ONE TRAILER IS DAMAGED, A TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL SIGN ON HORN ROAD AND THERE'S NO DUMPSTER SCREENING, ALL OF WHICH WOULD BE A VIOLATION HAD THAT PROPERTY BEEN IN THE CITY. OKAY.
THANK YOU. IF WE APPROVE THIS ANNEXATION, IT GOES INTO EFFECT IN 30 DAYS. ARE YOU AMENABLE TO CORRECTING THOSE ITEMS? IF NOT, THERE'LL BE A VIOLATION ON A PER DAY BASIS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE. OKAY. THE GRAVEL LOT IS DUE TO CONSTRUCTION, FURTHER CONSTRUCTION, IN HOPES THAT WHEN WE GET CITY UTILITIES, WE'RE ABLE TO THEN CONTINUE TO BUILD. THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE, ACCORDING TO FRANKLIN COUNTY, TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARCELS, WHICH WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD CONTINUE TO BUILD. SO JACKSON TOWNSHIP HAD ALLOWED ME TO KEEP
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GRAVEL FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES, AS WELL AS UTILITIES COMING FROM THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. THAT WILL AGAIN CUT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT TO THE BUILDING, EXISTING BUILDING AND FUTURE BUILDINGS. OKAY. THE OTHER ITEMS WERE THE THE HIGH WEEDS, THE TRAILERS, THE TRAILERS CAN BE REMOVED. THEY ARE DRIVABLE. WELL, YOU CAN YES. SO THOSE CAN BE MOVED. THE WEEDS. IT IS FARMED BACK THERE. WE HAVE A WALKING PATH AROUND THE FARMING AREA. BUT THAT THERE IS A FARMER THAT'S FARMING THAT. OKAY. SO IF I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH WEEDS ARE BEING REFERRED TO, BUT THEY CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND I WASN'T UNDERSTANDING THE DUMPSTER PART OF IT, BUT. I THINK THAT CAN PROBABLY BE. YES. MR. SMITH, WHAT IS THIS BEING WHAT IS THIS, THE ZONING. THIS WILL COME IN AS MOST COMPARABLE, MOST COMPARABLE TO THE TOWNSHIP ZONING. AND TAMMY HAS IT RIGHT HERE. IT WOULD BE IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. SMITH SO WHEN IT COMES TO AGRICULTURAL USE IN THE BACK AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU DO REALIZE THAT YOU'RE STILL GOING TO YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO YOU'RE ASKING TO COME INTO THE CITY. NUMBER ONE, I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT COMING OUT TO GET YOU. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER, WHATEVER ZONING COMPLIANCE THERE IS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE BACK, WITH THE BACK AREA, IT HAS TO FALL INTO COMPLIANCE. SO THAT MEANS WEEDS, NOXIOUS WEEDS, HIGH GRASS, IT MEANS EVERYTHING.AND DO YOU KNOW HOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR LOT IS FARMED OR HOW BIG OF AN AREA IS CURRENTLY BEING FARMED? THE SOUTH PARCEL IS ABOUT THREE ACRES, I BELIEVE, AND THE NORTH PARCEL IS ABOUT 4 TO 5. AND HOW MUCH OF THAT IS BEING FARMED RIGHT NOW? OH, I'M SORRY THAT THAT IS THE OH THAT'S THE FARM. OH YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. SMITH, THE PROBLEM THAT THAT ENTERS INTO THIS IS, IS NOW YOU'VE GOT THREE ACRES OF OBVIOUSLY FOR I MEAN, I, I'M A, I'M A FARM KID, SO NOBODY LIKES AGRICULTURE MORE THAN I DO. BUT YOU'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE GOT YOU'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING CORN, OBVIOUSLY, OR SOYBEANS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT DOESN'T FIT IN THE CODE. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD DELAY THIS SO YOU CAN TALK TO. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO SIMULTANEOUSLY BE WORKING ON THE ZONING BECAUSE IT WILL BE EVENTUALLY. I BELIEVE IT'S PUD. IS THAT THE CORRECT TERM? OKAY. SO YOUR YOUR PLAN IS TO REZONE IT TO PUD, CORRECT. OKAY. UNDER PUD ZONING, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE ALLOWED TO MIX DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES. I THOUGHT MAYBE JUST A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THIS WAS BEING FARMED. THEN YOU COULD ARGUE IT'S JUST AN ACCESSORY TO LARGE GARDEN. IT'S NOT THE MAIN USE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT WHEN HALF THE PROPERTY, IS THAT THE PROPER WAY TO CONTINUE THE FARMING AND THE USE THAT SHE IS PROPOSING WOULD BE THROUGH PUD DEVELOPMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S SPOKEN WITH MR. RAUSCH ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO. AND GENERALLY, IF AN APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH STAFF IN ORDER TO TRY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, WE DON'T PROCEED WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT UNTIL EITHER IT IS TURNED DOWN AND OR THE APPLICANT STOPS WORKING WITH US FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, THE SPEAKER NEEDS TO GIVE HER NAME AND ADDRESS. OH, I'M SORRY, LESLIE GARMAN, 3951 MARSHALL AVENUE, GROVE CITY. OKAY. MR. RAUSCH, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE ISSUES HERE THAT WE BROUGHT UP? YES. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST WITH MISS GARMAN. SHE'S INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING THE REMAINDER OF HER LOT WHEN UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE. STAFF DIDN'T SEE THIS ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE FRONTAGE PARCELS. ABOUT 360 ACRES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 6065.
AGAIN, THAT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL, BUT YET THEY'RE FARMING IT. SO THERE ARE THIS IS A TRANSITIONAL AREA, SO THERE'S NOTHING CLEAR CUT. SO FROM WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GATHER, WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUEST, EXTEND UTILITIES AND SEE THE PROPERTY DEVELOP IN COURT TO THE SOUTHWEST AREA. PLAN. OKAY. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND IN REGARD TO THIS MOTION I DO. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. JUST FOR PUBLIC AWARENESS. WHAT'S THE BUSINESS THAT YOU OPERATE? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND WITH POTENTIAL CITY SERVICES. YEAH. SO I OWN VITALITY ATHLETIC
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CENTER. IT'S A POTENTIALLY MORE GYMNASTICS TRAINING FACILITY THAN ANYTHING. BUT WE ALSO OFFER DIFFERENT PROGRAMING FOR YOUTH AND ADULTS. I MEAN, THE FUTURE IS THAT IT WOULD BE A FULL SPORTS COMPLEX. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH OTHERS IN THE AREA THAT ARE LIKE MINDED, AND THEY HAVE THE SAME VISION THAT WE DO. BUT THE BUILDING AS IS IS THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE. UNTIL WE GET CITY UTILITIES AND ARE ABLE TO GET A SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND WE WE CAN'T GO FURTHER THAN WHERE WE ARE NOW. THANK YOU FOR EXPANDING ON THAT. AS A PARENT WHO HAS CHILDREN WHO'VE BEEN AT VITALITY BEFORE AND IN YOUR PAST LOCATION, AND THEN YOU'VE HAD GROWTH AND NEEDED TO MOVE TO THIS LOCATION AGAIN, I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND I'M PART OF THE THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE IS HOW MUCH WE NEED SPORTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW WE NEED THAT ACCESSIBILITY AND AVAILABILITY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO THAT. YOU'RE ALREADY A BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER, MR. MAYOR? THANK YOU, MR. AND MR. GARNER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE TALKED TWO YEARS AGO. PROBABLY WE DID, YES, ABOUT ANNEXING. AND QUITE FRANKLY, SHE SHOULD HAVE WE SHOULD HAVE AN EXTRA WHEN SHE STARTED BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE CHANGED THE WHOLE TONE OF, OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND IT'S LIKE, NO MATTER HOW YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN HORN ROAD, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE IN GROVE CITY ANYWAY.AND IN MY OPINION, WE'RE BETTER OFF HAVING HER IN GROW CITY AND BEING ABLE TO PUT MORE DISCIPLINE TO WITH THE OTHER THINGS THAT SHE, SHE WILL BE DOING THERE AT THE SAME TIME, OFFERING THE BENEFITS OF WATER AND SEWER, WHICH IS A REAL ISSUE, BUT I WOULD I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS ANNEXATION TO SAY WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET SOMETHING DONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? OKAY. IF NOT LIKE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE ANNEXATION OF 15.3 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES LOCATED AT SOUTHWEST OF HAHN ROAD AND JACKSON TOWNSHIP TO THE CITY OF GROVE CITY. SECOND. I'LL SECOND. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? MR. BERRY? YES, YES. YES. YES. ANDERSON.
YES, YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE ALL SET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE STATE
[Ordinance C-20-26 Accept the Plat of Hickory Creek, Section 2. First reading. ]
SAFETY COMMITTEE, WE'VE GOT ONE MORE. OH, YOU GOT ONE MORE. I'M SORRY. OKAY. THE SECOND ONE IS ORDINANCE C 2026 TO ACCEPT A PLOT OF HICKORY CREEK, SECTION TWO. AND THIS IS THE FIRST READING. THAT'S IT. ANYONE SECOND READING? THAT'S THE FIRST READING. SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 1ST. YEP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. SAFETY COMMITTEE,[Ordinance C-15-26 Enact Section 505.19 of the Codified Ordinances titled Chickens and Ducks and Amend Section 505.14 titled Animals Prohibited in the City; Exemptions. Second reading and public hearing. ]
MISS ANDERSON. YES, I WILL READ THIS WITH MISS BURROWS TODAY. THANK YOU. I WILL READ THIS WITH MISS BURROWS ABSENCE TODAY. SO FOR SAFETY WE HAVE ONE ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE C 1526 TO ENACT THE TO ENACT SECTION 505.19 OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES TITLED CHICKENS AND DUCKS AND AMEND SECTION 505.14 TITLED ANIMALS PROHIBITED IN THE CITY. EXCEPTION EXEMPTIONS.THIS IS THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. WE ALSO DO HAVE A A REPLACED ORDINANCE THAT WE WE WOULD BE BRINGING FORWARD. DO WE NEED TO DO THAT NOW, OR DO WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THE SPEAKING. OKAY. SO AND WE WOULD VOTE ON THE REPLACED ORDINANCE. TAMMY. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. SO LET'S. SO THERE IS A REPLACED ORDINANCE FOR THIS. AND I WOULD MOVE THAT WE WOULD DO OUR READING AND PUBLIC HEARING BASED ON THE REPLACED ORDINANCE. SECOND. MR. HOLT YES. STURM.
YES. YES. ANDERSON. YES. YES. BARRY. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO NOW THAT WE ARE REVIEWING THIS, DUCKS WAS REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE. THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT UPDATES THAT WERE MADE TO THIS REPLACEMENT. I AM GOING TO ASK MR. BERRY, WHO BROUGHT THE WHO ORIGINATED THIS ORDINANCE TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. AND THEN WE MIGHT HAVE SOME OF OUR OTHER ADMINISTRATION SPEAK ON THIS AS WELL. AND WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS. OKAY. SO THE PREMISE OF THIS HAS BEEN LONG STANDING. I MEAN, I'VE HAD MANY PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS ASKING ME WHY THEY COULD
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NOT DO THIS CITY SUBURBS LIKE BEXLEY AND OF COURSE COLUMBUS AND OTHERS PERMIT IT. AND WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ROOSTERS, SO THERE'LL BE NO CROWING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT WHAT THEY ARE IS IT'S, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE FIVE CHICKENS, BASICALLY. AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT HAVE KIDS THAT ARE IN FOUR H AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WANTED TO SHOW CHICKENS AT THE FOUR AT, AT, YOU KNOW, AT THE COUNTY FAIR AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WHEN YOU START DIGGING INTO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS HAS ALWAYS BEEN, OKAY, WHAT HAPPENS ABOUT THE WASTE AND THINGS LIKE THAT? WELL, THE WASTE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN A DOG WASTE. I MEAN, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE SEVERAL DOGS, AND YOU HAVE TO CLEAN THEM UP AFTER THEM REGARDLESS. OF COURSE, I WOULD ALWAYS ARGUE THAT CHICKEN WASTE IS VERY GOOD FOR YOUR GARDEN, BUT THE THAT'S A, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE. BUT WE'VE, WE'VE, I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE ASK. WE'VE CHANGED THIS QUITE A BIT. MR. STRUM AND MISS BURROWS WERE WITH ME, AND THIS MIKE BOZO WAS WITH ME. WE ACTUALLY CHANGED A LOT OF THE SETBACKS. THE HABITAT STRUCTURE HAS TO BE 20FT FROM. THE PROPERTY LINE HAS TO BE LOCATED AT LEAST 100FT FROM THE DWELLING THAT WAS CHANGED. IT'S ALSO AT THIS POINT WE'RE LOOKING AT HALF ACRES, HALF ACRE PLOTS IN THE CITY. THAT COULD CHANGE. LET'S I MEAN, IF IF PEOPLE WANT TO COME BACK TO US AND THIS AND WE DON'T HAVE COMPLAINTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THIS COULD COME BACK TO US. AND THAT COULD BE CHANGED AS WELL. BUT WITH, WITH THE, WITH ISSUES. AND I DON'T HAVE TO TELL ANYBODY WHAT THE COST OF EGGS ARE, WHAT THE COST OF BREAD IS AND WHAT THE INFLATION IS AND, AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT B THIS DOES ALLOW PEOPLE TO, AT LEAST IF THEY'RE NOT MOLTING, GET 3 TO 5 EGGS, YOU KNOW, A A DAY AND EVERYTHING. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU CAN IT'S IN THE CODE IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT YOU CANNOT SELL THE EGGS OR ANYTHING. SO YOU CAN'T SHOW UP TO THE FARMER'S MARKET WITH YOUR EGGS AND SELL THE EGGS OR ANYTHING. AND YOU CAN'T HARVEST THE MEAT AND THEN SELL THE MEAT IN ANY CASE. SO HAVING PAID FOR MY FIRST YEAR OF COLLEGE RAISING CHICKENS. THE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK OVER THE LAST 7 OR 8 YEARS, I PROBABLY HAD 20 OR 30 PEOPLE COME TO ME BECAUSE BEXLEY HAS THEM. I BELIEVE ARLINGTON AND COLUMBUS HAVE THEM AS WELL. YOU KNOW, THEY CAME TO ME AND SAID, WHY CAN'T WE DOWN HERE? YOU KNOW, SOME WE HAVE SOME PLOTS DOWN HERE THAT ARE OVER FIVE ACRES THAT ARE IN THE CITY. WE JUST ANNEXED ONE OF 15. SO THERE'S THERE'S SEVERAL THERE'S SEVERAL AREAS IN THE CITY WHERE YOU COULD HAVE THEM, OF COURSE, HOA'S PROHIBIT THEM AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S UP TO THE HOA. BUT WITH THAT SAID, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE TO GIVE TESTIMONY. YES. SO LET'S CALL OUR SPEAKERS UP. WE HAVE ASHLEY FELTZ FIRST. IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. HI. YES, I'M ASHLEY FELTZ. I AM AT 3262 ROSE AVENUE IN GROVE CITY. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I'M JUST HERE TO ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER MODERNIZING THE GROVE CITY CURRENT ORDINANCE REGARDING BACKYARD HENS THROUGH A PERMIT BASED AND INSPECTION READY APPROACH. LIKE YOU'VE MENTIONED, MR. BERRY, OUR FAMILY KEEPS A SMALL NUMBER OF HENS. WE DO NOT HAVE A ROOSTER. THEY'RE CLEAN AND CONTAINED AND WELL MAINTAINED. THEY ARE NOT A NUISANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORS, AND WE FULLY SUPPORT REASONABLE STANDARDS AND PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS AND SANITATION REQUIREMENTS. AND ALL OF THE ABOVE THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED. FOR OUR FAMILY, THESE HENS HAVE REALLY BECOME MUCH MORE THAN JUST ANIMALS THAT ARE IN OUR BACKYARD. THEY HAVE TAUGHT OUR CHILDREN STEWARDSHIP AND RESPONSIBILITY, CONSISTENCY THROUGH DAILY CARETAKING OF THE ANIMALS. ONE OF OUR CHILDREN IS HAS A LOT OF ANXIETY. AND SO THE DAILY CARE OF THIS ANIMAL THAT SHE STARTED THROUGH FOR H AS A AS A CHICKEN PROJECT, HAS JUST MADE LEAPS AND BOUNDS IN HER. IT'S REALLY BECOME LI SUPPR HER. AND SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR FAMILY. AND OF COURSE, THE COST OF JUST RISING GROCERY STORE AND EGGS, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED. BUT WE ARE JUST A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS WOULD BE A POSITIVE CHANGE TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. AND YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT MANY SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING COLUMBUS, DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS, BEXLEY, HILLIARD, WORTHINGTON, THEY ALLOW THESE CHICKENS CURRENTLY UNDER THESE REASONABLE REGULATIONS. SO THE CITIES THAT HAVE SHOWN THAT THAT REASONABLE OWNERSHIP CAN COEXIST SUCCESSFULLY AND WITHIN SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN PROPER SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE, HAVE JUST BEEN A GREAT SHOWCASE FOR WHAT IS POSSIBLE IN CHANGING OR UPDATING THIS CURRENT ORDINANCE. SO WE'RE JUST NOT ASKING FOR ANY REMOVAL OF STANDARDS, BUT JUST REALLY ASKING FOR MODERNIZING THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND FRAMEWORK[00:20:02]
THAT WOULD ALLOW JUST THE RESPONSIBLE FAMILIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY AND SAFELY AND RESPECTFULLY OWN BACKYARD CHICKENS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND JUST CONSIDERATION IN THE IN THE VOTING OF THIS. I'VE PREPARED FOR YOU GUYS A BRIEF FRAMEWORK THAT YOU'VE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH OUTLINED. SO BUT AND I'VE ALSO INCLUDED SOME OF OUR, MY PERSONAL NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES OF OUR STREET, JUST THEIR GENERAL ACCOUNTS TO SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DEFINITELY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND SPOKEN WITH PEOPLE AROUND US TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT A NUISANCE AND THAT EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS, I BELIEVE, JANA BOSCH. IF I SAID THAT CORRECTLY. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU COULD SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. JANA BOSCH, 4015 WILLIAMSBURG COURT, GROVE CITY. THERE'S HONESTLY PROBABLY NOT MUCH TO ADD TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID. I ALSO SUPPORT THE CHICKEN ORDINANCE. WE HAVE A DEEPLY ROOTED HISTORICAL TRADITION IN OUR COUNTRY OF ALLOWING DOMESTICATED ANIMALS. CHICKENS ARE PRETTY MUCH ON PAR WITH DOGS AND CATS, AND I'VE ALSO BEEN DOMESTICATED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. THEY ALSO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF BEING BENEFICIAL WHERE YOU GET EGGS. I CAN ATTEST THAT THE. I'VE ALSO HEARD THE SAME THING ABOUT THE BENEFITS TO GARDENS, AND SO I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE ORDINANCE. I THINK THAT WITH. WITH ALL PETS, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE NEED FOR RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP. AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR. I WILL SAY IN THE FUTURE, THE. THE COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER TAKING AWAY THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE COOPS BE SHIELDED FROM PUBLIC VIEW, AS I FEEL LIKE OVER TIME, PERHAPS HAVING GIANT GREENERY WALLS WILL BE MORE DISRUPTIVE TO THE VISUAL APPEAL OF A BACKYARD THAN HAVING ADORABLE COOPS THAT LOOK LIKE MINIATURE HOUSES. SO THAT'S MAYBE A CONSIDERATION TO SIMPLY APPLY WHATEVER. MAYBE BLIGHTED BUILDING STANDARDS WOULD APPLY TO A SHED TO CHICKEN COOPS IS PROBABLY THE BETTER WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT, BUT EITHER WAY, I'D SUPPORT IT PASSING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCIL COMMENTS. COUNCIL DISCUSSION. MR. MAYOR, MISS ANDERSON. YES, MR. BOZO, CAN YOU. DON'T WE HAVE CHICKENS IN THE CITY TODAY? IF WE DO, THEY WOULD BE ILLEGAL. NOW, THE QUESTION IS, TODAY WE HAVE CHICKENS. I KNOW WE'VE HAD VIOLATIONS IN THE PAST. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN CLEANED OUT, YOU KNOW, GONE NOW AND BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE. SO I REALLY CAN'T ANSWER IT. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT RATS, BIRDS, OTHER VARMINTS THAT COME IN AND EAT THE FOOD? I MEAN, WE'VE HAD RODENT PROBLEMS IN THE CITY. SURE. CAN I SAY THAT'S BECAUSE OF CHICKENS? I CANNOT. LET ME ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN. IF YOU HAVE CORN AND YOU HAVE OTHER MEALS LIKE THAT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE RATS AND OTHER VARMINTS? RATS DEPEND ON A FOOD SOURCE.SO YES, THAT COULD HAPPEN. BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO NO VIOLATIONS TODAY OF CHICKENS. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OUTSTANDING. BUT I, I LIKE I SAID, I KNOW WE'VE HAD VIOLATIONS IN THE PAST. HAVE THEY BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE? I CAN'T ANSWER, I CAN GET YOU AN ANSWER BEFORE THE END OF THIS MEETING, THOUGH. THAT'D BE GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
MADAM CHAIRMAN. YES. MR. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANYBODY IN THE ROOM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE GRASS SEED IN THEIR IN THEIR GARAGE? GRASS SEED, GRASS SEED RATS, MICE ALL EAT GRASS SEED.
HAVE IT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. BIRD FEEDERS. MR. OMAR. YOU KNOW, I TOOK SOME TIME TO LOOK INTO THIS. I WILL SAY JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT, I HAD A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT I NEEDED TO DO TO LEARN MORE ABOUT CHICKENS. BUT ONE THING I DO RECALL IS DURING MY CAMPAIGN SEASON, I HAD A LOT OF FAMILIES REACH OUT TO ME AND TALK TO ME A LOT ABOUT CHICKENS. IT WAS A BIT SHOCKING, BUT IT KIND OF MOTIVATED ME TO LEARN MORE. AND I THINK ONE THING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME THE MOST WAS, YOU KNOW, FOOD SECURITY. YOU KNOW, INFLATION IS THROUGH THE ROOF. WE SEE THE PRICE OF GAS TO GAS TODAY. EGGS ARE EXPENSIVE. SO FOR FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOOD AND PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR LOVED ONES, I THINK IT'S REALLY PUSHING ME TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION TODAY. PLEASE. YEAH. SO FROM THE ORIGINAL DRAFT, LIKE MR.
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BERRY SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE IT WAS CHANGED TO LIMITED TO CHICKENS ONLY. THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THE SETBACKS. SO IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE. THE SIZE OF THE COOPS AND THE RUN WERE CAPPED. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE DEFINED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DEFINITION ORIGINALLY. AND THERE WAS AN ANNUAL PERMIT REQUIRED NOW. AND THAT WOULD NEED TO BE RENEWED EVERY EVERY YEAR AS WELL. THAT PLUS THE OTHER STIPULATIONS THAT ARE THAT ARE IN IT TO ME SEEMS REASONABLE. AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT. MR. HOLDER, I WAS JUST READING HERE, YOU KNOW, CHICKENS MAY BE SLAUGHTERED ON ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY. SO ISN'T THERE A POINT WHERE A CHICKEN STOPPED PRODUCING EGGS? WHAT DO YOU DO THEN? THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES WHERE YOU CAN TAKE. I USED TO TAKE MY CHICKENS TO THE KIDRON AUCTION, BUT YOU CAN TAKE THEM SEVERAL PLACES AND HAVE THEM PROCESSED. I SEE. A FARM. WHERE YOU CAN WALK TO MRS. SPIELMAN'S FARM AND YOU CAN DO IT THERE. I STILL HAVE MORE COMMENTS, MR. HOLT. I'LL GIVE MR. BOSO A QUICK UPDATE WE RECENTLY JUST ENFORCED ON ROSE AVENUE CHICKENS AND HAD THEM REMOVED WITHIN THE LAST MONTH. CORRECT? AGAIN, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. I KNOW WE HAD VIOLATIONS. DO I KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED AND TAKEN CARE OF? YEAH. TAMMY CAN TESTIFY THAT SHE GOT INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL. SO YES, THERE WAS JUST AND THERE'S A THE ADJACENT PROPERTY ALSO HAS CHICKENS. AND NEITHER OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE HALF AN ACRE. ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY VIOLATIONS IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW? YEAH, I'D SAY WE PROBABLY STILL HAVE ONE ON ROSE AVENUE, THE OTHER HOUSE ON ROSE. I. I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF AND ADDRESS THE FIRST ONE ON ROSE AVENUE WAS TAKEN CARE OF A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THEN. NOW THERE'S ANOTHER REPORTED ON ROSE AVENUE. BUT LIKE I SAID, I'LL LOOK IT UP. I'M LOOKING IT UP NOW AS I'M STANDING BACK THERE, WHICH TO ME, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A BIG DEAL.IT'S JUST THAT THEY I THINK IT JUST SHOWS THAT THERE'LL BE A LOT OF ENFORCEMENT AND A LOT OF ACTIVITY BY YOUR DEPARTMENT WITH PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE HALF ACRE LOTS AND SOMEHOW START TO GET ROOSTERS AND ALL THOSE THINGS. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK TO, TO BE DOING ALL THIS WITH THIS ORDINANCE. SO THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO GET A PERMIT. SO THEY'LL HAVE TO APPLY, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE INSPECTIONS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE. SO IF WE FIND AN ADDRESS WITH CHICKENS WITHOUT A PERMIT AND A TO HAVE THEM, THEN THERE WILL BE ENFORCEMENT. YES. YEAH. AS IT IS WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO WITH PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, WE ASKED MR. BOZO IF IT WOULD BE THAT MUCH OF A BURDEN. HE SAID, NO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE A CHICKEN INSPECTOR. WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS DO AS WELL. I DEFINITELY WAS, YOU KNOW, UNSURE ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN TALKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND UNDERSTANDING, THERE WILL BE KIND OF SOME STANDARDS WRITTEN UP IN TERMS OF HOW THE PERMIT IS REQUESTED AND WHAT THE CRITERIA ARE AND EVERYTHING. A PIECE THAT THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT AS THE ADMINISTRATION, AS THE CITY, THE CITY WILL NOT BE CHECKING IF THE PERMIT APPLICANT IS IN AN HOA AND THEREFORE, A PERMANENT APPLICANT IN AN HOA COULD COME APPLY FOR A PERMIT, GET THE PERMIT, THINK THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CITY ORDINANCE AND START THIS ON THEIR PROPERTY AND COME TO LEARN FROM THEIR HOA THAT THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. I THINK IT ALSO STARTS TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A KIND OF ENFORCEMENT INTO OUR HOSE, AND I'M JUST NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON ENFORCING. AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN APPRECIATE SOME OF THE TESTIMONY AND THE FOUR H PROJECTS AND THE MOTIVATIONS FOR KIDS THAT IT BRINGS. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. OMAR SAID AS WELL ABOUT FOOD INSECURITY. I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN PERIODS WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GARDEN IN THEIR BACKYARD AND HAVE SOME FOOD FOR THEMSELVES, SO I WOULD HOPE THAT IF THIS DOES COME TO FRUITION, THAT MAYBE WE COULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY SOMEHOW WE WORK WITH OUR HOA OR TRY AND
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FIGURE OUT A WAY SO THAT THERE ISN'T SO MUCH ENFORCEMENT FROM THESE HOA'S HAVING TO COME DOWN AND BE THE ONES OR OR THAT WE'RE CAUSING CONFUSION BECAUSE THE CITY IS GIVING PERMITS TO PEOPLE THAT REALLY MAYBE SHOULDN'T GET THE PERMIT. ANDERSON. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND ON THE APPLICATION, WE SHOULD JUST NOTE, ARE YOU IN AN HOA? AND THAT WOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC NO. AND MR. BARRY, IF I MAY, WE HAVE A SIGN UP AT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE STUMBLE ACROSS THIS ISSUE MOST OF THE TIME FOR FENCE RESTRICTIONS, WHERE YOU CAN GET A FENCE RESTRICTION OR CITY CODE, BUT YOUR HOA WOULD DISALLOW IT. WE HAVE A NICE SIGN OVER AT THEIR LITTLE WINDOW THAT SAYS YOU NEED TO CHECK YOUR HOA REQUIREMENTS. WE AS A CITY, WE AS THE CITY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THE HOA REQUIREMENTS. THOSE ARE PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS. IT'S REALLY UP TO THE HOA TO DO THAT. BUT WE DO TRY TO EDUCATE FOLKS AS MUCH AS WE CAN BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE SEE IT A LOT MOST OF THE TIME WITH FENCES. YEAH. AS, AS AN HOA MYSELF, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR HOA TO ENFORCE RULES. YOU HAVE TO HIRE ATTORNEYS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS TO DEAL WITH. HOA I'M INTERESTED IN THE MAYOR'S OPINION OF THIS LEGISLATION. OR IS THIS SOMETHING YOU ARE SUPPORTING OR NOT SUPPORTING? I THINK THE NEW DEFINITION OF WHERE THEY'RE AVAILABLE CERTAINLY GOES A LONG WAY IN TRYING TO SATISFY WHAT I WOULD SAY, THE PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORS. I UNDERSTAND ABOUT ROOSTERS. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT ABOUT THE PENS, BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF WHAT PEOPLE CALL PENS AND HOW OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO ENFORCE WHAT A PEN LOOKS LIKE, HOW MUCH CHICKEN WIRE YOU HAVE, HOW MANY FEEDERS ARE IN THE PEN, WHAT'S THE LAYING HABITAT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE VERSED IN THAT PARTICULAR THING. I THINK I DO SOMEWHAT QUESTION OUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S SEASONALLY. WE HAVE ALL KIND OF THINGS THAT GO BY SEASONS GRASS NOT BEING MOWED, SIDEWALKS NOT BEING SHOVELED IN THE WINTER AND TRYING TO SAY, WELL, NOW WE'RE GOING TO START ENFORCING GOING OUT AND LOOKING AT CHICKEN, CHICKEN PENS. I THINK IT PUTS A BURDEN ON THE CITY. WE DO IT FOR BEES. I WILL SAY THAT I DID FIND A VIOLATION THAT IS OPEN WITHIN THE CITY. WITH THE MAY 27TH COMPLIANCE DATE. AND THAT VIOLATION WAS WRITTEN ON MAY 11TH. WELL, IN THE VERY FIRST PERSON THAT TESTIFIED UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, DID SHE HAVE A GROVE CITY ADDRESS? YES. THAT'S SPEAKING OF, OH, THAT'S YOUR VIOLATION. OKAY. SAVED ME A BUNCH OF TIME. OKAY. HOW MANY? THIS IS A QUESTION. QUESTION, MR. BOSCO, MY APOLOGIES. HOW MANY COMPLAINTS OR VIOLATIONS DO WE SEE WITH BEES AND HOW OFTEN COMPLAINTS ON WHAT BEES? BEES. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ENFORCED BY THE BUILDING DIVISION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DONE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE DO ALLOW BEES AS WELL IN THE CITY. YOU WANT TO SAY THAT ON THE RECORD.MR. TILFORD, INDICATE THAT HE CONFINES THAT INFORMATION. HE DOES NOT HAVE IT AT HIS FINGERTIPS. I CERTAINLY CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION OUT. I DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY COMPLAINTS WE HAVE OF BEES. I MEAN, LIKE, WOULD YOU SAY IT'S A HANDFUL OR YOU DON'T REALLY. I HAVE ZERO INFORMATION. I WILL FIND OUT. I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MAYOR DID SAY THAT IT WOULD FEEL LIKE A BURDEN ON THE CITY. I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THAT'S THE SAME THING FOR BEES. YEAH. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY COMPLAINTS THAT'S COME IN, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NOT AND I DON'T COVER MAYOR'S COURT EVERY WEEK, BUT I DO COVER IT. AND I READ THE AGENDA.
I DON'T EVER REMEMBER SEEING A BEE VIOLATION. I, I, I, I HAVE SEEN CHICKENS ON THERE THOUGH, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN A BEE. WE HAD ONE INSTANCE WHERE WE HAD A BEE PROBLEM WHERE THEY VISITED THE POOL NEXT DOOR BECAUSE BEES LIKE WATER, BUT I, I, I HAVE NOT SEEN A BEE VIOLATION ON THE DOCKET IN AS FAR BACK AS I CAN REMEMBER, SIR, OR AN ISSUE A VIOLATION WITH THE HOAS. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DO, THANK YOU. YEAH,
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I CAN EMPATHIZE WITH THE IDEA OF KEEPING KEEPING CHICKENS AND PETS AS A PET OR FOR EACH PROJECT. I THINK IT IT MAKES SENSE. WE HAD PROJECTS WHEN WE HOMESCHOOLED ALL OUR KIDS.HOWEVER, I THINK THAT FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, DOES IT REALLY SAVE THAT MUCH MONEY RAISING YOUR OWN CHICKENS AND EGGS WHEN YOU GO TO THE. THE COST OF FEED AND AND THE PEN ITSELF AND THE FEE. OKAY, HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. OKAY. AND MY BIGGEST, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULES. I WORKED WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR 11 YEARS AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BZA. AND I KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE VERY BUSY AND A LOT OF THINGS NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS ANOTHER JUST ANOTHER ITEM IN THEIR IN THEIR BASKET OF REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY AND FOR THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT, I'M, I'M SORT OF IFFY ON THAT. SO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS READING HAS HAD ITS. THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MOVE IT BE APPROVED AS REPLACED. SECOND. MR. STERN YES. OMAR. YES. ANDERSON. YES. KALINGA. NO.
BARRIE. YES. HOLT. NO. MOTION APPROVED. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR SAFETY, MR. PRESIDENT.
[Resolution CR-14-26 Create the Community Grant Program. ]
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO FINANCE, MR. DURHAM. YES. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH RESOLUTION CR1426, WHICH IS TO CREATE THE COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM. SINCE THAT'S VERY SHORT. IF IT'S OKAY, I WILL ALSO READ THE PURPOSE AS STATED IN THE UNDERLYING DOCUMENTATION, THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO EVENTS, PROJECTS THAT ENHANCE THE CITY'S APPEAL TO VISITORS AND TOURISTS, ENCOURAGING OVERNIGHT STAYS IN OUR HOTELS, MOTELS AND INCREASING COMMUNITY ENJOYMENT. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT SIGNED UP FOR THAT? YES. SORRY. NO, HE'S FOR THE FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT. ISN'T HE PERCEIVED OR WOULD RATHER DO? I THINK WE OUGHT TO TALK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S MR. HOLT'S GOING TO DO AN OVERVIEW REAL QUICK OF THE OF THE PROGRAM. SO. BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A SECOND. I HAVE TO BRING BRING A LITTLE HISTORY INTO THIS TO HOW WE GOT HERE. IN THE 2026 BUDGET SUBMISSION.AND FOR THE PREVIOUS SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THAT, SEVERAL INSTITUTIONS, NONPROFIT REQUEST MONEY FROM THE CITY TO HELP FUND THINGS LIKE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE TOWN CENTER, INC.
WHICH DOES WINE FEST. AND THEN WE'VE GOT ARTS IN THE ALLEY BY CHAMBER AND ALL THESE EVENTS.
AND THE CITY HAS PREVIOUSLY FUNDED THOSE EVENTS. IN THE 2026 BUDGET FINAL MEETING, WE REMOVED THOSE EVENTS FROM THE FUNDING CATEGORY THEY WERE IN TO MAKE THEM SEPARATE FROM A JUST A LINE ITEM WHERE WE WOULD WRITE A CHECK FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR WRITE A CHECK TO THE TOWN CENTER, INC. AND I DID THAT ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVE CUTS IN THE BUDGET TO FUND THOSE EVENTS SO THAT IT WOULD BE BUDGET NEUTRAL. THEN JODY, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, AND TAMMY AND I, AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF MR. SMITH, WE REVIEWED SEVERAL OTHER CITY'S PROGRAMS FOR THESE KINDS OF EVENTS. AND WE LANDED ON DUBLIN AS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE. AND WHAT THIS DOES IS IT CREATES THE EVENT TO BE CALLED LIKE AN EVENT OR A PROGRAM, AND YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. IT HAS TO BE A NONPROFIT. AND SO THINKING THIS THROUGH, SO THE WINE FEST HAS SUBMITTED THEIR NONPROFIT APPLICATION FOR THEIR MONEY. AND THIS IS A TYPICALLY A REIMBURSEMENT KIND OF THING. SO WE HAVE, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING. AND
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IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT. PREVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE JUST WRITE A CHECK TO THE WINE FESTIVAL TOWN CENTER FOLKS, AND WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT. SO THIS PROVIDES A LOT MORE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE PROCESS. SO IN 2026, AFTER WE REMOVED LITTLE THEATER OFF THE BROADWAY CHAMBER IN THE TOWN CENTER, WE WE STARTED THIS SMALL COMMITTEE.WE CREATED THE RULES AND THE FORMS NECESSARY TO SUBMIT FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE AN APPROPRIATION. SO AN APPROPRIATION IS DIFFERENT FROM A LINE ITEM IN A BUDGET WHERE IT'S JUST THERE AND IT HAPPENS. APPROPRIATION HAS TO GET VOTED ON BY ALL OF COUNCIL. SO TONIGHT, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE APPROPRIATION REQUEST FOR THE WINE FEST, CORRECT. THE WINE FEST PUT ON BY TOWN CENTER, INC. NOW THAT WAS APPROVED.
THEY'VE GOT ALL THE FORMS. THEY HAVE ALL THEIR RECEIPTS. THEY HAVE ALL THEIR EXPECTED EXPENSES. AND THAT COMES TO 47,856. AND I ALSO NEED TO ADD THAT EARLIER IN THE YEAR, THE MAYOR CAME TO COUNCIL AND SAID HE REALLY WANTS TO IMPROVE THE MARKETING OF GROVE CITY AND HAVE MORE EVENTS AND BIGGER EVENTS. A PROGRAM LIKE THIS OPENS UP THE POSSIBILITY OF OTHER NONPROFITS HAVING A CONCERT IN DOWNTOWN GROVE CITY AND BEULAH PARK, OR ALL KINDS OF OTHER EVENTS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SPONSOR BECAUSE THEY BRING CUSTOMERS DOWNTOWN OR SOMEWHERE IN GROVE CITY. IT SUPPORTS ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THE RECIPROCAL OF FOOD, LET'S SAY, AND POTENTIALLY EVEN HOTEL VISITS. SO WITH THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE APPROPRIATION NEXT. THIS, HOWEVER, IS THE 27 PROGRAM. SO WE CREATED A PROCESS IN. 26 REVIEWED BY A SMALL COMMITTEE, AND CREATES AN APPROPRIATION IN. 26 THE. 27 PROGRAM, WHICH WILL VOTE ON NEXT, IS A LITTLE LARGER PROGRAM. IT INCLUDES THE REVIEW COMMITTEE TO BE TWO APPOINTEES FROM THE MAYOR AND THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT IT WILL OPERATE SIMILARLY, AND I EXPECT IT TO BE VERY BUSY AROUND BUDGET SEASON, WHEN ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE PLANNING THEIR YEARLY EVENTS, AND THEN THEY'LL BE SUBMITTED TO THIS FIVE PERSON COMMITTEE, AND THE COMMITTEE WILL BE MAKING SURE THAT IT MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE EVENT. THINGS THAT PROMOTE GROVE CITY. ADVERTISE FOR GROVE CITY, AND ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE WANT OUT OF AN EVENT, AND THEN THAT COMMITTEE WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, AND THEN COUNCIL WILL APPROVE. AND SO I'M JUST CONTRASTING THE 26 VERSUS 27 PROCESS, THE 26. THINK OF IT MORE AS A TEST TO SEE HOW IT WORKS, MAKE SURE WE GET THE FORMS RIGHT, CREATE THE PROGRAM, PUT IT IN PLACE FOR THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE IN THERE ANYWAY. HOWEVER, NOW WE HAVE A LOT MORE TRANSPARENCY AND FOLLOW UP ON HOW THAT MONEY WAS DISTRIBUTED AND USED. SO WITH THAT, THAT'S THE PROGRAM. AND OKAY, SO THAT'S 1426 RIGHT THERE. SO, MR. MILLER, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON THE ACTUAL OKAY, OKAY.
YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON THE APPROPRIATION. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COMMENTS? BUT I THINK THE GRANT PROGRAM MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. IT REALLY GIVES TRUE TRANSPARENCY AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH BEFORE WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR PAID RECEIPTS IN ORDER TO GET THE FUNDING THAT THEY NEED. AND THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE EVERY DOLLAR GOES. AND I THINK THAT MR. HOLT AND THE COMMITTEE AND TAMMY AND THE OTHER PEOPLE DID A GOOD JOB PUTTING IT TOGETHER. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD MOVE. NOW, I'LL JUST MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT, JUST IN FULL TRANSPARENCY. THERE IS SOME PROVISION IN THE PROGRAM TO HAVE AN ADVANCE. WE DON'T EXPECT A LOT OF ADVANCES AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE FOR
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SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. AND MR. MILLER MAY EXPLAIN HIS SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT SOME OF HIS APPROPRIATION IS AN ADVANCE. BUT IT'S EXPECTED TO BE MORE OF A REIMBURSEMENT TYPE PROGRAM.IT'S ADVERTISED AS REIMBURSEMENT. AND BUT THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE AN ADVANCE MIGHT BE REQUIRED, BUT THAT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN WRITING THE CHECK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET SEASON. SO YOU STILL HAVE WAY MORE TRANSPARENCY. MR. ROBERT. YES, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. MY ONLY QUESTION IS SO FAR, IS THERE A MAX LIKE GRANT AMOUNT THAT AN ORGANIZATION COULD BE APPROVED FOR? NO. SO IF, LET'S SAY THE WINE AND ARTS FESTIVAL WAS HOSTING FOUR EVENTS THIS YEAR, I COULD COME BACK FOUR TIMES AND GET REIMBURSED. AND REMEMBER, IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT TYPE PROCESS. SO THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY. THEN THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR IT. AND WE FEEL THAT HELPS ENABLE MORE EVENTS, MORE DOWNTOWN EVENTS, MORE CONCERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, A NONPROFIT RIGHT NOW, THINKING ABOUT HAVING AN EVENT IN GROVE CITY NOW HAS A WAY TO POTENTIALLY GET SOME OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, TO PUT ON A CONCERT ON THE STAGE WITH MAYBE A BIG, A VERY POPULAR BAND AND HAVE ALL THAT ATTRACTION DOWNTOWN GROVE CITY PEOPLE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES WILL COME DOWN HERE TO SEE THAT BAND, AND THEY'RE A NONPROFIT. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IT WOULD BE A VERY POSITIVE THING FOR GROVE CITY. THANK YOU. NOW, IF SOMEBODY SUBMITTED A $1 MILLION GRANT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COMMITTEE WOULD PROBABLY SELF IMPLY THAT THERE'S A LIMIT OF SOME SORT AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT IN THE BUDGET BUDGET, SO TO SPEAK. COMMENTS. OTHER COMMENTS, MR. STERN? YES, THANK YOU. AND THEN MR. HOLT DID A GREAT JOB IN EXPLAINING THIS. AND ON THE SURFACE, I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A PROBLEM EXCEPT I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND I'M GOING TO GO ON RECORD THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WE FORMED A V CB CALLED A VISITOR AND CONVENTION BUREAU SEVERAL YEARS AGO WAS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THESE KIND OF SITUATIONS OUT OF THEIR OWN CASH FLOW. SO WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET WAS A WAY TO BE ABLE TO DIVERT, I GUESS, RIGHT ON THE FRONT END THAT MONEY BE GIVEN AND THERE'S AN ACCOUNTING AND THERE'S REQUIREMENT OF OF ACCOUNTING AUDIT TRAIL DIRECTLY TO THESE GROUPS. AND THAT GOT SWITCHED AND SAID, NO, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE ALL THE MONEY TO THE V CB AND EVEN THOUGH WE FOUND THE MONEY TO SUBSTITUTE FOR IT INCREMENTALLY TO THE CITY, THIS IS STILL COSTING US MORE MONEY. AND BUT THE V CB WAS FORMED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO WITH THE INTENT THAT THEY WOULD HELP SUPPORT THE ARTS AND THESE OTHER ACTIVITIES, AND I DON'T KNOW, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE FIRST TEN YEARS THAT THEY DID DO DO THAT. SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE NOT DONE IT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE HAD A PROGRAM IN PLACE AND IT SHOULD HAVE WORKED. IT DIDN'T WORK, AND IT STILL DOESN'T WORK. BUT THIS IS AN ALTERNATIVE, WHICH I AGREE WITH. BUT I DO THINK THE THE PROGRAM IS EFFECTIVE AFTER WE PASS THE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS MAY 18TH, 2026. THANK YOU.
OTHER COMMENTS. IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SMITH? A RESOLUTION? YES, SIR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I, I DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I READ IN HERE IS THAT THERE IS A A FINAL REPORT THAT IS REQUIRED AFTER THE FACT. CORRECT. AND THE IT LOOKED LIKE THE, THE INTENT OF THAT REALLY IS TO, IF NOTHING ELSE, VERIFY THAT WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WERE ACTUALLY DID OCCUR, I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD METRICS AGAIN, LIKE I'VE BEEN DOING, BUT IT'S BEING ABLE TO MEASURE, YOU KNOW, DID WE ACTUALLY GET THE BANG FOR THE BANG FOR THE BUCK? AND AGAIN, THE, THE, THE PURPOSE, AS STATED IS TO ENCOURAGE VISITORS, TOURISTS OVERNIGHT STAYS IN THE HOTELS AND THINGS, THINGS THAT ARE IN THE ALSO IN THE REPORT SUBMISSION, THE FINAL REPORT SUBMISSION ARE AN ATTENDANCE BREAKDOWN, INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT CAME OVER 50 MILES AND THE METHOD OF TRACKING. DO
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WE KNOW WHAT THAT METHOD IS OR IS THAT UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL? ALL THE GROUPS ARE CURRENTLY STRUGGLING WITH A METHOD TO TRACK PEOPLE THAT. TODD HURLEY AND THE GUYS HAVE A PRETTY GOOD METHOD NOW TO FIND USING CELL PHONE DATA WHERE PEOPLE ARE FROM. THERE'S ALSO IF YOU HAVE A REGISTRATION OR IF YOU HAVE TO BUY TICKETS, THEY'RE GOING TO CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION.AND THEN ONE OTHER THING THAT'S IN THE FINAL REPORT IS PROOF THAT YOU ADVERTISED GROVE CITY AS A SPONSOR TO YOUR EVENT THROUGH THE ONLINE HANDOUTS AND ALL THAT. IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING THE GROVE CITY NAME OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE WE GET THE PROMOTION AND THE MARKETING THAT WE'RE AFTER FOR THESE EVENTS. OKAY. MR. ROMER? YEAH. JUST TO ADD ONE MORE THING, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE CRITERIA. I THINK THE ONLY PART THAT I'M NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS FOR THE EXISTING, I GUESS, THE VC THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED, FOR THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS GRANT, OR IS IT OPEN TO ANY NONPROFIT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ITS ANY NONPROFIT? NOW, WE HAD THE VC BE PRESENT LAST MEETING, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, AND SHE OUTLINED HOW SHE IS NOW SPONSORING CERTAIN EVENTS IN GROVE CITY WITH THEIR MONEY.
AND THAT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE GAVE THEM THE MONEY.
INSTEAD OF LINE ITEM THEM OUT SO THEY COULD BEGIN TO LOOK TO HELP SPONSOR ALL THE GROVE CITY EVENTS AND BE PART OF THAT. SO NOT READY TO HAVE THE VC DO THAT YET FOR US. MAYBE IN A COUPLE YEARS WITH THE TRACK RECORD, THEY COULD COULD ALSO ASSIST. THANK YOU. AND THE QUESTION I'M CONFUSED BY THE MAY 18TH COMMENT BY THE MAYOR. CAN STEPHEN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME AS A RESOLUTION? THIS WILL BE EFFECTIVE UPON PASSAGE. THEREFORE, THE CRITERIA AND THE. AND THE INFORMATION SET FORTH IN THIS WILL BE EFFECTIVE FOR THIS YEAR AND NEXT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK THE DATES AND SOME OF THE MATERIALS AND SUCH ARE GOING TO BE SO. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THIS RESOLUTION CR 1426 TO HAVE ANY 2026 REFERENCE REMOVED. SECOND. BECAUSE THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY VERSION, THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE DOING, AND THIS IS REALLY MEANT FOR ME TO BE THE 27 PROGRAM. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. MR. OMAR. YES. ANDERSON. YES. BARRY. YES. YES. YES. OKAY. NOW YOU CAN DO THE FULL THING.
OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. COMMENTED. ENOUGH. YEAH. NO KIDDING. THIS RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND I MOVE THAT IT BE APPROVED. SECOND. ANDERSON. YES, YES YES YES YES
[Ordinance C-18-26 Appropriate $47,856.78 from the General Fund for the current expense of assisting with the Grove City Town Center Wine & Arts Festival expenses. Second reading and public hearing. ]
YES. OKAY. NEXT ORDINANCE C 1826. THIS IS TO APPROPRIATE $47,856.78 FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE CURRENT EXPENSE OF ASSISTING THE GROVE CITY TOWN CENTER, WINE AND ARTS FESTIVAL EXPENSES. THIS IS THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. MR. HOLT, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT FIRST? MY ONLY COMMENT IS THIS IS THE WINE AND ARTS APPROPRIATION THAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, AND I BELIEVE. AND MR. MILLER, DID YOU WANT TO. MR. MILLER WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. I'M BRANT MILLER, 3293 PARK STREET IN GROVE CITY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF GROVE CITY TOWN CENTER INCORPORATED. JUST TO ADD A LITTLE. EXCUSE ME, A LITTLE CONTEXT TO WHAT MR. HOLT WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE. THIS.
THERE'S BEEN THIS FUNDING PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND OUR ORGANIZATION FOR YEARS.
JUST TO NITPICK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU HAD SAID, MR. HOLT WAS. AND IN MY TIME, IT HASN'T BEEN ATTACHED TO AN EVENT NECESSARILY. IT WAS JUST MONEY THAT WE WERE RECEIVING.
AND IF I HAVE THE NUMBERS RIGHT, WE WERE EXPECTING TO GET AROUND $84,000 IN THAT PRELIMINARY BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR, WHICH HAS NOW BEEN ZERO. IT'S NOW ZERO, WHICH IS FINE. BUT IT'S FORCED US TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS AND ELIMINATE SOME UNNECESSARY SPENDING. ET CETERA.
ET CETERA. BUT WHERE WE STAND TODAY, I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW WE'VE REBUILT OUR ENTIRE STAFF.
WE HAVE 100% NEW STAFF. WE HAVE A NINE MEMBER BOARD. SIX OF THEM ARE NEW. THEY'VE BEEN WITH
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US FOR 18 MONTHS OR LESS. WE ARE NOW IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE IRS. OUR BANK BALANCE AS OF THE END OF 2025, WE HAD ALMOST MORE THAN QUADRUPLED IT FROM WHAT WE STARTED IN 2025. SO OUR DILIGENCE AND HARD WORK HAS ALLOWED US TO OPERATE SO FAR IN 2026 WITHOUT ANY EXTERNAL MONEY.AND OUR LONG TERM GOAL IS TO PRODUCE THESE EVENTS WITHOUT CITY MONEY. HOWEVER, THOUGH WE'RE IMPROVING, WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO THAT'S THE LEGISLATION HERE. TONIGHT IS ESSENTIALLY FOR US AN INSURANCE POLICY. WHEREAS IF, YOU KNOW, WINE AND ARTS WOULD GET RAINED OUT OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER REASON, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE AFTER THAT. SO AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT ISN'T WIDELY KNOWN IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE $80,000 THAT WE, THE ORGANIZATION, HAD GOTTEN IN THE PAST, THE CITY WAS ALSO PAYING FOR SOME OF THE FESTIVAL. YOU THE CITY WOULD PAY THROUGH PARKS AND REC, SOME OF OUR VENDORS DIRECTLY. I'M TALKING ABOUT SOME DIGITAL AND PRINT ADVERTISING. THE TENTS, THE TABLES, THE CHAIRS, UMBRELLAS, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. AND ENTERTAINMENT WAS ALL PAID BY THE CITY. IN ADDITION TO THE MONEY THAT OUR ORGANIZATION WAS GETTING BEFORE. SO, MISTER OMAR, TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL MAXIMUM AMOUNT, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR $48,000 AND A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS IT'S NOT NEW EXPENSES TO THE CITY. THEY'RE JUST SIMPLY LINE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN MOVED TO US. SO WITH THAT, I'M, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE STRONGER AND MORE TRANSPARENT THAN WE'VE BEEN IN YEARS. AND THANK YOU. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL MAKE A COMMENT. SEE. AND THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM ALSO IS TO CREATE SOME SELF-SUFFICIENCY AS THE COMMITTEE REVIEWS THE SAME WINE FEST REQUEST YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE EXPECT THAT IT SHOULD GO DOWN BECAUSE THESE ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD BE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND SHOULDN'T ALWAYS NEED THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR. AND THE MONEY DOESN'T PAY FOR PEOPLE. IT DOESN'T PAY FOR OUR STAFF. FOR YOU, IT PAYS FOR THINGS LIKE TENTS AND CHAIRS. ONE TIME EXPENSES THAT THEY THERE'S A LIST OF EXPENSES THAT QUALIFIES. SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER TIDBIT OF INFORMATION. AND ALL THIS SOUNDS GOOD TO ME BECAUSE WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING, WHAT IT'S GOING FOR, AND WE'RE HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. HOLT, EVEN THOUGH SO WE JUST PASSED THE THE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS FOR NEXT YEAR. CORRECT. SO THIS IS A THIS YEAR THING. WILL THERE STILL BE A FINAL REPORT SUBMITTED WITH THE SAME INFORMATION? ABSOLUTELY. WE STILL HAVE ALL THOSE METRICS AND DATA THAT WE CAN. THE PROCESS FOR 26 INCLUDES ALL THE FORMS AND FINAL REPORT AND ALL THAT. AND WE'VE ALREADY MET AND LOOKED AT HIS INFORMATION OF HOW MANY VISITORS AND HOW HE'S GOING TO TRACK HIM AND WHERE HIS MONEY GOES FOR. AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL WINE AND ARTS FESTIVAL. AND THE FINAL REPORT IS DUE 60 DAYS AFTER THE EVENT.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THE REIMBURSEMENTS CAN BE MADE. ALL RIGHT. AND I THINK WE'LL YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS BEING, AS I UNDERSTAND, PAID AHEAD OF TIME, AND THE REST WILL BE REIMBURSEMENTS. THE UPFRONT MONEY IS ALL ACCOUNTED FOR TO THE PENNY, THE BACK END EXPENSES. WE MAY ACTUALLY COME BACK LOWER THAN THAN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT. EXPLAIN MAYBE FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL THEM ABOUT THE FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY ARE IN, THAT REQUIRES YOU TO BE IN AN ADVANCED SITUATION FOR SOME EXPENSES IN 100 WORDS OR LESS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. ANYTHING THIS LONG. WE'LL WE'LL SAY IN 2025, THERE WAS SOME FINANCIAL INCONSISTENCIES, FOUND THAT WE HAD TO, TO DEAL WITH THAT REQUIRED US TO TIGHTEN OUR BELTS A LITTLE BIT AND SEEK SOME LEGAL COUNSEL TO GET HELP THROUGH. AND YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW DETAILED WE WANT TO GET, BUT WE WERE NOT
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IN A GOOD PLACE FINANCIALLY. OKAY. AFTER THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING? OKAY. OKAY. SO OKAY, SO THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND I MOVE THAT IT BE APPROVED. SECOND. HELLINGA. YES, HARRY. YES. YES. YES. YES. ANDERSON.YES. JUST FOR A POINT OF THAT TOOK LONGER THAN THE CHICKENS. JUST SAYING. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW. WAS IT AROUND THE CLOCK ON THAT? MAYBE. ALRIGHT. NEXT IS ORDINANCE C
[Ordinance C-19-26 Authorize the City Administrator to execute an Agreement with Axiom Ventures, LLC for the development of the Broadway Live Project. Second reading and public hearing ]
1926, AUTHORIZING THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH AXIOM VENTURES, LLC FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BROADWAY LIVE PROJECT. THIS IS THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. AND THERE THEY ARE. YES. OH, SHOOT. THERE. AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YEAH. THANK YOU. ETHAN TEMIANKA WITH AXIOM VENTURES, PRESIDENT BARRY, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY, AS WELL AS MAYOR STAGE. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR VOTING ON THE PRIOR RESOLUTION, SETTING THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO PUT INTO THE BROADWAY LIVE PROJECT. ALSO PARTICULAR THANKS GO TO MR. BOZO FOR WORKING WITH US EXTENSIVELY TO COME TO THE AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU. WE'RE VERY EXCITED. I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE WITH OUR PROJECT IS PARKING. AND SO I'M VERY PLEASED TO SAY THAT THE AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU PROVIDES 125 SPACE PARKING LOT THAT WOULD BE SECURED BY THE CITY, AS WELL AS AN 80 SPACE PARKING LOT THAT WE WOULD BE PROVIDING AS WELL. THAT WOULD BE ABOUT A 42% INCREASE TO ALL THE PARKING OF THE TOWN CENTER. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S OVER HALF AN ACRE OF PUBLIC GREEN SPACE THAT WE WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR MAINTAINING. AND THIS HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY NEGOTIATED BY US. AND AGAIN, MR. BOZO, APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TO WORK WITH US ON THIS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS OFFLINE THAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO OUR BEST TO ANSWER VIA EMAIL, BUT AS ALWAYS, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. QUESTIONS. SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I WAS ABLE TO LOOK OVER THE AGREEMENT, AND I'M NOT SURE IF MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU ALL, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FOR US AND THE PUBLIC. WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS AGREEMENT AND WHAT IS THE CITY COMMITTING TO? OKAY, SO THE OVERALL AGREEMENT IS THE $6.5 MILLION AMOUNT THAT THE COUNCIL HAS PRIOR VOTED ON, BASICALLY AS A TOTAL INVESTMENT TO THE PROJECT. THIS INCLUDES OVER TWO POINT AROUND 2.2 ACRES OF LAND SECURED BY THE CITY. WE ARE ACTUALLY A COMPLETELY AT RISK FOR THIS LAND. SO WE WILL BE NOT ONLY CREATING THAT PARKING LOT OF 125 SPACES, ROUGHLY AS WELL AS THE GREEN SPACE DOING WORK TO THE FLOODWAY THROUGH FEMA TO INCREASE THE SPACE OF THAT LAND. BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S MUCH NEEDED ON CLEVELAND AVENUE. SO CLEVELAND AVENUE WILL GET COMPLETELY REDONE. NEW CURBS, EVERYTHING UP ACCORDING TO CODE. AGAIN, WE ARE DOING THAT ALL AT RISK. AND SO THE CITY DOESN'T PAY A SINGLE DIME UNTIL THOSE THINGS ARE COMPLETED. THANK YOU.TIM. ALSO ACTING VENTURES TO ADD. REALLY, IT'S IT'S ABOUT ADDING KIND OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE INVESTMENT WITHIN THE ENTIRE TOWN CENTER THAT WE EXPECT BOTH OUR PROJECT AND FUTURE PROJECTS TO DO. SO THE AGREEMENT'S REALLY OUTLINING HOW WE CAPTURE THE PUBLIC REALM IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING THE PRIVATE REALM INVESTMENT IN BROADWAY LIVE. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO SAY WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK AS TAYLOR SWIFT WOULD SAY, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING THERE. REALLY NOT STRANGERS OR NEW. SO IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR IN THE AUDIENCE OR HAVEN'T FOLLOWED ALONG, THIS PROJECT HAS CERTAINLY BEEN HERE EVEN BEFORE I CAME ON COUNCIL TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. SO I APPRECIATE THE DUE DILIGENCE AND THAT BETWEEN YOU AND THE CITY AND THE CITY CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU, I KNOW THAT THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF OF BACK AND FORTH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE VISION YOU ALL PORTRAYED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WAS VERY EXCITING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW PEOPLE DO SEE CHANGES IN THE LANDSCAPE RIGHT NOW AND THE AND THE BUILDING STRUCTURES THAT ONCE STOOD THERE. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS COMMUNITIES CHANGE AND DEVELOP AND WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE WORKING TO PAY HOMAGE TO SPACES WITHIN GROVE CITY AND SOME OF THE DESIGN THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO BRING IN.
AND THAT'S APPRECIATIVE. AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE VISION THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO BRING FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS EXCITING. SO THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN JUST A LOT OF TIME SPENT ON THIS. SO YEAH, WE'VE POURED OUR
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HEART INTO THIS. AND I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT THE PRIOR RENDERINGS THAT WERE PART OF THE PDP. YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING THROUGH A SIGNIFICANT REDESIGN, NOT THAT WE'RE CHANGING ANYTHING DRAMATICALLY IN SIZE OR SCOPE, BUT JUST MORE SO THE KIND OF HISTORICAL FEEL. SO WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY IN THAT REGARD. AND I THINK YOU GUYS WILL BE VERY PLEASED WHEN WE COME BACK FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IF THIS IS PASSED TODAY. YES, ETHAN. I DIDN'T THINK YOU'D MAKE IT HERE. ACTUALLY, I'M GLAD YOU DID. I'VE GOT ONE REQUEST, AND I MAYBE THIS APPLIES FOR THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS I WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT SOME SEQUENCING INTO WHAT'S BUILT FIRST VERSUS LAST. AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE WE ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THE PUBLIC PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAN WE ARE THE APARTMENT BUILDING, AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT I WOULD WANT TO BE PREVENTING IS A QUICK ASSEMBLY OF THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND THEN A DRAG OUT OF THE PUBLIC STUFF. YOU KNOW, FOR TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER. SO I'M JUST COUNSELING YOU TO, IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME OR SOME PUBLIC AND SOME PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE STUFF AT THE SAME TIME. I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE A YEAR FROM NOW LOOKING AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH NOTHING ELSE AROUND BECAUSE YOU RAN OUT OF MONEY OR IT DIDN'T WORK AS YOU WANTED IT TO. AND WE'VE GOT ALL THAT LEFT OVER TO DEAL WITH. UNDERSTOOD? YEAH. OUR TOP PRIORITY IS THE MIXED USE PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE APARTMENTS. I COULDN'T SEE THEM GOING FIRST, TO BE HONEST. IF ANYTHING, THEY WOULD BE SIMULTANEOUS IS OUR PLAN. SO DEFINITELY HEAR YOU ON THAT AND AGREE. GOOD. I WILL TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS, WHEN I FIRST SAW THE 6.5, I THOUGHT, WOW, FOR A PARKING LOT, YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. BUT MR. BOZO WAS KIND ENOUGH TO KIND OF IT'S CHUNKED OUT AND IT'S ACTUALLY AFTER THE FACT. SO CAN YOU TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? SURE. AND AGAIN, THIS $6.5 MILLION IN THE AGREEMENT PROBABLY REPRESENTS A PERIOD OF DISBURSEMENT, MAYBE I WOULD SAY THREE YEARS OR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. THE THE INITIAL PROJECT IS THE PARKING LOT, WHICH THE CITY WOULD PAY THE DEVELOPER $4 MILLION. NOW, PART OF THAT IS THAT WE HAVE TO BUY APPROXIMATELY 2.19 ACRES OF GROUND. WE HAD THAT GROUND APPRAISED JULY 1ST, 2025. THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THAT LAND WAS $1.3 MILLION. WE ESTIMATED THE 125 PARKING SPACES OF APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION FOR THE CITY TO, TO, TO CONSTRUCT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE PREVAILING WAGE. WE HAVE TO PAY WORKERS MORE THAN MAYBE A PRIVATE DEVELOPER. SO THE FIRST $4.4 MILLION IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE BUYING FOR LAND AND THE PARKING LOT FOR THE GENERAL USE OF THE ENTIRE TOWN CENTER AREA.THE SECOND PHASE, WHICH IS THE 2.5 MILLION, IS REALLY TOWARDS IMPROVEMENTS TO BROADWAY AND CLEVELAND AVENUE. THAT WAS STATED EARLIER. WE FELT THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING THOSE PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENTS ON CLEVELAND AVENUE AND BROADWAY UNLESS THEY WERE DOING THE COMMERCIAL PHASE ALSO. SO WHEN THAT IS COMPLETED AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT THAT COST IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE MORE THAN THAT, THAT $2.5 MILLION. BUT WE WOULD RELEASE $1.5 MILLION OF THAT, AND THEN WE WOULD KEEP BACK $1 MILLION UNTIL THE PROJECT IS TOTALLY COMPLETED FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S STILL BE DONE.
WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION, I THINK, SINCE NOVEMBER OF 2021. IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT AND I'M MOST OF THE TIME IT'S NOT TELLING THE TRUTH, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN THE ECONOMY OVER THAT TIME AS WELL. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. STAGE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE AGREEMENT. I THINK IT'S A VERY UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THIS HAS NOT BEEN EASY BY ANY MEANS. IT'S AND I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE EXTENSIVE NEGOTIATION AND PROTECTION OF THE TAXPAYERS THAT YOU PERSONALLY HAVE, MR. BOZO. SO AGAIN, THIS HAS NOT BEEN EASY, BUT WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET MOVING FORWARD IF THIS IS APPROVED. I HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE, THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT WHERE THAT'S ACTUALLY UP AGAINST THE CREEK BACK THERE, WHICH IRONICALLY, THAT'S MY MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED IN THAT THREE STORY BRICK. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. AND SO I USED TO PLAY DOWN THERE IN THAT CREEK ALL THE TIME. AND I KNOW IT'S A FLOODPLAIN. SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FEMA PROCESS AND HOW THAT WORKS AND WHAT'S REQUIRED TO DO THIS?
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YES, WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF REVISING THAT. SO WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT EXISTED. AND SO THAT'S SINCE BEFORE WE EVER EVEN PUT THIS VISION IN FRONT OF YOU, WE KIND OF KNEW THIS WAS A HURDLE WE HAD. WE HAD DONE THE ENGINEERING TO KIND OF PROVE MORE OR LESS THAT WE CAN DEVELOP THIS LAND. SO NOW THAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT MOVE FORWARD, WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THE ENGINEERING AND SUBMITTED. AND SO WHAT'S GOING TO END UP HAPPENING IS WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN A BUNCH OF FILL DIRT. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH FEMA, HAVE AN EXTENSIVE LOCAL AND FEDERAL APPROVAL TO CHANGE THE ONE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN LINE, MOVE IT FURTHER SO THAT WE CAN BUILD CLOSER TO THE CREEK. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CREATE AN AREA WHERE IF THERE'S FLOODING IN MORE OR LESS POOLS IN THAT AREA SO THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYONE DOWNSTREAM. AND SO THAT'S ALL GETTING REVIEWED RIGHT NOW. THAT APPLICATION IS ACTIVE. WE EXPECT OUR FIRST ROUND OF COMMENTS HERE AT THE END OF THE MONTH. AND THEN THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 30 DAYS BEFORE WE KIND OF GET MOVING WHERE WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL LETTER AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO SITE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS CAN'T CONTROL FEMA THOUGH. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE. YEAH, WE'RE ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF INTO THAT PROCESS NOW. OKAY. OKAY.ALL RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. YEAH. WELCOME BACK GUYS. THANK YOU. OBVIOUSLY KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO BECAUSE YOU GOT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO COME TO. AND OBVIOUSLY WITH EVERY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE DO REQUIRE GREEN GREEN GROUND TO BE DONATED OR TO BE OR TO BE MONETARY, WHATEVER THE MONETARY VALUE OF WHATEVER THE CODE SAYS TO GO INTO THE PARKS FUND. SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE FLOODPLAIN IN OUR CODE DOES NOT COUNT FOR GREEN AREA OR GREEN SPACE. SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT SOMEHOW, SOME WAY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE IF I COULD? MR. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. TOUGH WORK. RIGHT? NOTHING'S EASY. NOT EASY, CHEAP.
A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE THINGS. THERE IS AN EXHIBIT IN THERE. YOU CAN'T GET IT UP. TAMMY. THE EXHIBIT WITH THE THE PARCELS. NO, I'M SORRY, SIR. OKAY, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER SMALL BENEFITS IS WE WILL, AS PART OF THE PARKING LOT, BE PUTTING IN A BIKE TRAIL, A BRIDGE OVER TO BRECK AVENUE, WHICH MEANS WE'LL HAVE CONNECTIVITY FROM THE DOWNTOWN TO THE TO THE NORTH.
BUT WE WE APPRECIATE YOUR PERSEVERANCE AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROJECT COME TO FRUITION.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HE SAID THAT MUCH BETTER THAN I DID. APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE YOUR PERSEVERANCE. I SAID I DIDN'T THINK HE'D BE HERE AGAIN. SO THAT'S A NICER WAY TO SAY IT. I THINK MUCH BETTER AT THAT THAN I AM. WE'RE EXCITED. ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
SO THIS ORDINANCE HAS HAD ITS SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MOVE THAT IT BE APPROVED SECOND. MR. BARRY? YES. HOLT. YES. MR. YES. YES. ANDERSON. YES. YES. ALL RIGHT.
[Ordinance C-21-26 Authorize the Mayor and City Administrator to enter into an Agreement with the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees Local 1116, Ohio Council 8, AFL-CIO. First reading. ]
SO THE NEXT ONE IS ORDINANCE C 2126. AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES LOCAL 1116 OHIO COUNCIL 8AFLCIO. AND THIS IS THE FIRST READING. SECOND READING WILL BE SIX ONE ON JUNE 1ST, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS RESOLUTION CR 1526, A RESOLUTION APPOINTING MEMBERS[Resolution CR-15-26 Appointing Members to the Beulah New Community Authority. ]
TO THE BEULAH NEW COMMUNITY AUTHORITY AND TALKING ON THAT ONE. MR. STURM, THIS IS REQUIRED EVERY TWO YEARS. MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AUTHORITY HAVE TO LIVE IN THE BALL PARK AREA, AND THESE TWO NAMES HAVE AGREED TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.SO THIS RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS READING AND PUBLIC HEARING AND I MOVE IT BE APPROVED. SECOND.
MR. HOLT. YES. MR. YES. YES. ANDERSON. YES. YES. YES. MR. PRESIDENT. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR BUSINESS FOR THE COUNCIL. NOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO IN. WE'RE GOING TO
[Call for New Business ]
GO INTO NEW BUSINESS, AND I'M LOOKING FOR MY LIST. OH, HERE WE. ALL RIGHT. THE FIRST PERSON THAT SIGNED UP IS JENNIFER MAPLE. JENNIFER. JENNIFER. SCAR. MARPLE. I'M SO SORRY. I YOU ACTUALLY WROTE VERY NEATLY, TOO, SO THANK YOU. JENNIFER, IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.YEP. 3688 LARCHMERE DRIVE. COUNCIL MAYOR, I'M ASKING YOU TO. THREE MINUTES, MA'AM. 12 MONTH MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTER APPLICATIONS AS AN EMERGENCY ACTION. THE CITY ATTORNEY WRITES THAT NO DATA CENTER IS A PERMITTED USE IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT. HE ALSO WRITES THAT A MORATORIUM IS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY BECAUSE YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAUSE SOMETHING THAT IS
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ALREADY PROHIBITED UNDER OUR CODE. THOSE ARE NOT THE SAME THING. NOT PERMITTED. USE AND PROHIBITED MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS, AND THAT DISTINCTION IS IMPORTANT. GROVE CITY'S CODE WORKS BY LISTING WHAT IS PERMITTED USING SIC CODES. FROM 1987, DATA CENTERS WEREN'T ON THE LIST. THEY DIDN'T EXIST. AS AN INDUSTRY THEN, DEVELOPER CAN'T JUST WALK IN AND BUILD ONE TOMORROW, BUT NOT ALLOWED WITHOUT A VOTE AND CANNOT BE APPROVED ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THAT'S THE GAP. TWO DISTRICTS HAVE OPEN ENDED APPROVAL CLAUSES. THE OLD DISTRICT PERMIT PERMITS ANY OFFICE RESEARCH USE APPROVED BY COUNCIL UNDER SECTION 1135.09.NO SIC CODE REQUIRED, JUST A VOTE. THE DEVELOPERS LAWYERS WILL ARGUE A HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER IS COMPUTING RESEARCH INFRASTRUCTURE, AND OLR ALLOWS BUILDINGS UP TO 120FT, THREE TIMES THE NEXT TALLEST HEIGHT IN OUR CODE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. INDUSTRIAL LISTS PUBLIC UTILITIES AS PERMITTED AND AS A CATCH ALL OTHER USES APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AGAIN, NO CRITERIA, JUST A VOTE. UNDER CURRENT CODE, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO ANALYZE POWER GRID IMPACT, WATER USE, NOISE OR FISCAL IMPACT BEFORE APPROVAL. DATA CENTERS TYPICALLY EMPLOY 20 TO 50 PEOPLE ON 300 ACRES AFTER THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION. THAT RATIO DESERVES EXAMINATION BEFORE A VOTE, NOT AFTER PRESIDENT BARRY'S POST ON SATURDAY CONFIRMS HEADQUARTERS MAY SUBMIT A PRELIMINARY PLAN AS EARLY AS MAY 27TH, WITH A POSSIBLE COUNCIL PRESENTATION ON JUNE 1ST. WE'VE BEEN FORMALLY ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM FOR THREE MONTHS NOW. WE ARE NOW 14 DAYS FROM THAT POTENTIAL PRESENTATION. HE'S ALSO SAID COUNCIL WILL NOT BE RUSHED, AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD. A MORATORIUM PUTS THAT PROMISE INTO THE CODE. CONSTITUENTS WRITING IN ARE GETTING TEMPLATE RESPONSES FROM THE CLERK WHEN WE GET ONE AT ALL. AND ON A PROJECT THIS SIZE, THE SILENCE IS NOT REASSURING, ESPECIALLY GIVEN WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS AND COMMERCIAL POINT ARE LEARNING ABOUT THEIR COUNCIL'S EMERGENCY APPROVALS. GROVE CITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS AND THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT AS AN EMERGENCY. WE DID EXACTLY THIS WITH MARIJUANA. A NEW USE, NO STANDARDS IN PLACE STUDY BEFORE DECIDING 14 DAYS AGO, COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY USED EMERGENCY AUTHORITY TO APPROVE ELECTRIC AGGREGATION. A MORATORIUM HERE IS THE SAME TOOL ON THE SAME URGENCY. 12 MONTHS INDEPENDENT STUDIES PROPER STANDARDS. THEN DECIDE. REVEREND RON CAMPBELL.
NAME IS RON CAMPBELL. REVEREND RON CAMPBELL, 4193 MAPLE GROVE DRIVE HERE IN GROVE CITY. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK UP FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T JUST SPEAK ABOUT CARING ABOUT THIS CITY. I'M ACTIVELY WORKING TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY EVERY SINGLE DAY AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF NEIGHBORS, HELPING NEIGHBORS, SWFC THROUGH THAT DAILY WORK, I HAVE LEARNED WHAT IT TRULY MEANS TO PUT THE PEOPLE OF GROVE CITY FIRST. AND RIGHT NOW, PUTTING OUR NEIGHBORS FIRST MEANS STANDING UP UNEQUIVOCALLY AGAINST THE DATA CENTERS, THREATENING OUR LOCAL WAY OF LIFE. WE ARE ALL WATCHING WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND US. WE SAW JACKSON TOWNSHIP PASS A ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT JUST LAST WEEK. WE KNOW ABOUT THE IMPENDING ANNEXATION THREATS. WE KNOW THE RISKS TO OUR ELECTRICAL GRID, THE MASSIVE DRAIN ON OUR WATER RESOURCES, THE NOISE POLLUTION AND THE PAVING OVER GOOD OHIO FARMLAND. OVER 1500 OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE ALREADY SIGNED A PETITION DEMANDING A PAUSE. RIGHT HERE IN GROVE CITY, THE PEOPLE ARE GETTING LOUDER AND WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY TONIGHT. I AM NOT JUST HERE TO ECHO THOSE CONCERNS. I'M HERE TO DEMAND TRANSPARENCY. THE RESIDENTS OF GROVE CITY DESERVE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS STAND BEFORE ANY MORE LAND IS ANNEXED OR REZONED. NO MORE DODGING, NO MORE CLOSED DOOR DISCUSSIONS. NO MORE WAITING TO SEE WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS. I'M CALLING ON EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL AS WELL AS YOU, MR. MAYOR, TO MAKE YOUR CURRENT POSITIONS ON DATA CENTERS KNOWN ON THE RECORD TONIGHT. THE PUBLIC DESERVES A CLEAR YES OR NO WHERE YOU STAND. ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT WHAT COMES NEXT IF A DATA CENTER IS PUSHED THROUGH THIS COUNCIL WITHOUT THE EXPLICIT CONSENT OF THE PUBLIC, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES AT THE BALLOT BOX. IF YOU IGNORE THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE OF THE ELECTED THAT YOU'RE ELECTED TO SERVE. I WILL PERSONALLY GO DOOR TO DOOR, NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I WILL COLLECT THE SIGNATURES REQUIRED TO REMOVE EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO VOTES FOR IT, AS WELL AS YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THIS ISN'T A VEILED THREAT. IT IS A PROMISE OF CIVIC ACCOUNTABILITY. WE ELECTED YOU TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY, NOT TO HAND IT OVER TO MASSIVE DEVELOPERS AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR PEACE AND OUR RESOURCES. NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS.
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SWFC ISN'T JUST AN ORGANIZATION TO ME. IT IS A CALL TO ACTION. STANDING UP AGAINST THESE DATA CENTERS IS EXACTLY HOW WE ENSURE OUR NEIGHBORS ARE PUT FIRST. DO THE RIGHT THING.STATE YOUR POSITIONS ON RECORD TONIGHT. PROTECT GROVE CITY. THANK YOU. CHARLES JOHNSON.
CHARLES JOHNSON. GOOD EVENING, MR. STAGE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS ABOUT AI MEANS MORE CANCER. THE SOURCE IS COMES FROM ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THE REPORTER IS FROM DIALING GAIA, IF I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY. HE IS A CANCER SURVIVOR. THE AMERICAN PROSPECT. THE DATE HE PUBLISHES WAS ON JULY 9TH, 2025. PERHAPS THE GREATEST SPECTER OF MORTALITY THAT HAUNTS THE PUBLIC IMAGINATION IS A DISEASE THAT SEEMS TO TOUCH EVERYONE'S LIFE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IS CANCER. IT'S FIGHTING THE. THAT ONCOLOGISTS. I CANNOT PRONOUNCE A PERSON'S NAME IN HIS BIOGRAPHY OF THE DISEASE. CALL IT THE IMPERIAL OF ALL MENTALITIES. DATA CENTERS, OF COURSE, ARE USED FOR THINGS LIKE CLOUD STORAGE AND COMPUTING, AND THEY USE A LOT OF ENERGY ABOUT 176 TERAWATT HOURS IN 2023, OR ABOUT 4.4.4 PERCENT OF TOTAL ELECTRICITY PRODUCTION PRODUCTION IN THE UNITED STATES, ABOUT 56% OF THAT POWER COMES FROM FOSSIL FUELS. AT PRESENT, THE TOXIC AIR POLLUTION IS GENERATED BY FOSSIL ENERGY AT ALL STAGES OF PRODUCTION ARE LINKED OR LINKED TO AN ARRAY OF HEALTH RISKS, INCLUDING CANCERS, ASTHMA, HEART DISEASE AND RESPIRATORY DISEASES. INDEED, ALL AI INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY COSTING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ADDED HEALTH COSTS, WITH ONE ESTIMATE PUTTING THE COST OF INCREASES IN CONDITIONS LIKE ASTHMA AND CANCER DUE TO DATA CENTERS AT $5.4 BILLION FROM 2019 TO 2023. THIS CAUSES ALREADY BALLOONING, HAVING HAVING GROWN BY 20% FROM 2022 TO 2023 AND PROJECTED TO BE OVER $20 BILLION ANNUALLY BY 2030. BUT THE CANCER COSTS WE PAY FOR CONTINUE AI BUILT OUT GOES DEEPER THAN THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IT WILL COST SOCIETY IN ADDED HEALTH EXPENDITURES.
COUNCIL WHO DO YOU KNOW IN THIS COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ANY ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY MEMBERS LIVING AROUND GROVE CITY? JACKSON TOWNSHIP HAS SOME TYPE OF CANCER. WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF THOSE GOING THROUGH CHEMOTHERAPY AND RADIATION? THE STRESSES THAT THE FAMILY GOES, THE FAMILY IS GOING THROUGH. IS COUNCIL GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP MORE CANCER PROBLEMS TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS? THANK YOU. I WANT TO I'M SORRY. MISTER JOHNSON 2715. LAURIE'S WAY. TAMMY, JUST TO MISTER RUTH, YOU'RE NEXT ON DECK. YOU KNOW, THE YOU'VE BEEN TO THE PODIUM BEFORE. YOU KNOW, THE THE RITUAL. YOUR ADDRESS, SIR, I ONLY HAVE 15 SECONDS ON ME. NAME AND ADDRESS? YES. ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING IN 15. SO MY NAME IS BOB RUTH. 4744 COUNT FLEET DRIVE, A HALF A MILE EAST OF THEIR DATA CENTER. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE COUNCIL. UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE ONLY THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THE HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC ISSUES SURROUNDING GROVE CITY'S DATA CENTER ARE COMPLEX. THEY CANNOT BE INTELLIGENTLY DISCUSSED AND DEBATED IN THREE MINUTE SPEECHES. IT IS DIFFERENT FOR THIS DATA CENTERS. TEXAS DEVELOPERS. IN MY OPINION, THEY'VE BEEN LOBBYING CITY OFFICIALS FOR MONTHS AND THEIR LOBBYING HASN'T BEEN RESTRICTED TO THREE MINUTES, I BET. DESPITE WHAT THE LAW DIRECTOR TOLD YOU TWO WEEKS AGO, WE NEED A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM. SUCH A PAUSE WILL GIVE THE COUNCIL, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, VOTERS, THE TIME TO FULLY STUDY THE MANY COMPLEX ISSUES SURROUNDING
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THIS PROJECT. LET'S TALK TURKEY, DISCARD THE POLITICAL EXCUSES AND TALKING POINTS. THE COLD, HARD POLITICAL FACT IS, IN MY OPINION, THE LOBBYISTS FROM TEXAS DON'T WANT A PAUSE. TIME IS THEIR ENEMY. THEY KNOW IT. THE LAW DIRECTOR KNOWS IT. IN MY OPINION, THE MAYOR KNOWS IT.AND I THINK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE BEGINNING TO REALIZE IT TOO. THE DEVELOPER STRATEGY, IN MY OPINION, IS SIMPLE SPEED THIS THROUGH CITY HALL IN TWO AND A HALF OR THREE MONTHS BEFORE MOST VOTERS KNOW IT'S EVEN BEING CONSIDERED. THERE IS A GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT SWEEPING ACROSS OHIO AGAINST DATA CENTERS. THE TEXAS DEVELOPERS ARE SCARED STIFF, IN MY OPINION. THEY WANT THIS THING APPROVED OVER THE SUMMER. WHILE MOST VOTERS ARE AWAY ON VACATION. IN MY OPINION, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD CALL THEIR BLUFF, ENACT A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM.
THANK YOU. JOHN RUTH. IN YOUR ADDRESS, SIR. SURE, JOHN. RUTH, I LIVE AT 5341 RANCH ROAD IN GROVE CITY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. BARRY, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I APPRECIATE THE TIME. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS. AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THE COST OF ELECTRICITY HAS SKYROCKETED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. TEN TVS HERE TONIGHT ACTUALLY HAD A GREAT ARTICLE LAST WEEK ABOUT THIS, WHERE THEY CONTACTED AEP AND ASKED THEIR SPOKESPERSON, AP, WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT? AP SAT THERE AND SAID THAT THE REASON THAT ELECTRIC RATES ARE GOING UP IS BECAUSE THE DATA CENTERS IN THE CENTRAL OHIO AREA, THESE THE DATA CENTERS ARE GRABBING SO MUCH POWER FROM US, THE POWER GRID IS OVERWHELMED. WE'RE GETTING OUR POWER NOW FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES IN OHIO AND OUTSIDE THE STATE OF OHIO. THE AP SPOKESMAN HAD A SOLUTION FOR THIS. THE SOLUTION WAS FOR DATA CENTERS TO BRING IN THEIR OWN POWER. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO THAT? I'M SURE YOU'RE ASKING. THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT IS THROUGH SMALL NUCLEAR REACTORS. OVER THE LAST 4 TO 5 YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN 6 TO 10 COMPANIES THAT HAVE COME UP, SPRUNG UP IN THE UNITED STATES, OKLO X ENERGY, TO NAME A COUPLE.
THESE COMPANIES ARE BEING FUNDED BY MICROSOFT, FACEBOOK, GOOGLE. THAT'S HOW THEY'RE BEING FUNDED. IF YOU GO TO THESE COMPANIES WEBSITES AND LOOK TO SEE WHO THEY'RE MARKETING TO, MAYOR, THEY'RE MARKETING TO THE DATA CENTERS. THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING TO PUT A SMALL NUCLEAR REACTORS IN THESE DATA CENTERS. AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M SURE YOU'RE THINKING TO YOURSELF, WELL, I WOULD NEVER LET A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT COME INTO MY INTO MY COMMUNITY. WELL, GUESS WHAT? THE STATE OF OHIO IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS PASSED LEGISLATION THAT'S TAKEN THAT POWER AWAY FROM YOU, AWAY FROM EACH ONE OF YOU. AND IT'S PUT IT IN THE STATE'S POWER TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND REGULATE THAT. SO YOU ARE POWERLESS ONCE YOU GO AHEAD AND ALLOW DATA CENTERS TO COME IN. QUESTION SHOULD BE ASKED, DO OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO HANDLE NUCLEAR SITUATIONS? DO WE HAVE WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN WITH NUCLEAR WASTE IN OUR COMMUNITIES? DOES THE STATE OF OHIO, CAN THE STATE OF OHIO GO AHEAD AND MANDATE AND REGULATE THESE NUCLEAR FACILITIES? MAYOR STAGE OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES, YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB, AND ALL YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN HERE TO DEVELOP GROVE CITY. COMING FROM A SMALL FARMING COMMUNITY INTO THE SECOND LARGEST SUBURB IN CENTRAL OHIO, WHERE PEOPLE COME PLANT ROOTS, RAISE THEIR FAMILIES, AND ARE PROUD TO CALL GROVE CITY THEIR HOME. DO YOU WANT YOUR LEGACY TO BE THAT OF BEING THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL THAT LET NUCLEAR REACTORS INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND JEOPARDIZE THE HEALTH OF OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN? I'M SURE YOU DON'T BECAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. I JUST WOULD ASK YOU, PLEASE ASK THE QUESTIONS. TAKE TIME TO ASK THE QUESTIONS. ASK PIKETON ASK HILLIARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. LESLIE GARMAN. LESLIE GARMAN, I THINK SHE SHE WAS LISTED UNDER NEW BUSINESS, BUT I THINK SHE WAS HERE FOR THE OTHER ISSUE. OKAY. SHE WAS A GYMNASTICS. OKAY. SHE'S
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LISTED UNDER NEW BUSINESS, MISS BELT. AND YOUR ADDRESS, MA'AM? MY NAME IS JEN BELT, AND MY ADDRESS IS 5266 KINGLET COURT, ORIENT. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK COUNCIL TO PLACE A MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT IN GROVE CITY TO PROPERLY EVALUATE THE LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES.SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE CHANGES MADE UNDER OHIO HOUSE BILL 15. AS MR. RUTH JUST SPOKE ABOUT, OHIO HOUSE BILL 15 WAS SIGNED INTO LAW MAY 25TH. AMONG MANY ENERGY RELATED PROVISIONS, THE LAW CREATED A FASTER PATHWAY FOR CERTAIN ENERGY GENERATION PROJECTS TO BE APPROVED THROUGH THE OHIO POWER SITING BOARD, REDUCING LOCAL OVERSIGHT AND ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR CITY APPROVAL. ONCE A LARGE SCALE DATA CENTER CHOOSES TO BUILD ITS OWN POWER PLANT OR FUEL CELL TO GENERATE ENERGY FOR THEIR CENTER, THE OHIO POWER SITING BOARD FAST TRACKS THE APPROVAL IN AS LITTLE AS 45 DAYS, AND GROVE CITY WILL HAVE LITTLE CONTROL OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, IF ANY. SO WHY DOES THIS MATTER? BECAUSE ONCE A DATA CENTER IS APPROVED, THE CONVERSATION MAY NOT END WITH THE DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. THESE FACILITIES REQUIRE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY ACROSS OHIO. COMPANIES ARE ARE NOW EXPLORING ON SITE POWER GENERATION TO MEET THAT DEMAND, INCLUDING NATURAL GAS, FUEL CELLS AND OTHER LARGE SCALE ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. COMMUNITIES ARE DISCOVERING THAT AFTER THE INITIAL DATA CENTER APPROVAL, ADDITIONAL POWER PROJECTS MAY MOVE FORWARD WITH FAR LESS MUNICIPAL CONTROL THAN THE RESIDENTS EXPECT. WE ARE ALREADY SEEING THIS PLAY OUT IN HILLIARD. THEIR RESIDENTS AND CITY LEADERS ARE FIGHTING A PROPOSED 72.9MW FUEL CELL PROJECT TIED TO AN AMAZON DATA CENTER CAMPUS. IT IS BEING BUILT ACROSS FROM A SCHOOL AND RIGHT NEXT TO A SUBDIVISION. THE PROJECT WOULD OPERATE BEHIND THE METER TO DIRECTLY POWER THE FACILITY, AND MANY RESIDENTS HAVE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, EMISSIONS SAFETY PLANNING AND THE LOSS OF LOCAL AUTHORITY IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS. WHETHER THESE PROJECTS INVOLVE NATURAL GAS, FUEL CELLS, SOLAR INFRASTRUCTURE OR FUTURE NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGIES. THE CORE ISSUE REMAINS THE SAME IF GROVE CITY APPROVES A DATA CENTER BEFORE FULLY UNDERSTANDING THE DOWNSTREAM CONSEQUENCES, WE MAY LOSE THE ABILITY TO MEANINGFULLY SHAPE WHAT COMES NEXT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING ANTI-TECHNOLOGY OR ANTI-BUSINESS. IT IS ABOUT MAKING INFORMED DECISIONS BEFORE IRREVERSIBLE ONES ARE MADE FOR US. THAT IS WHY I'M ASKING AGAIN THAT COUNCIL PLACE A MORATORIUM ON NEW DATA CENTER APPROVALS IN GROVE CITY UNTIL RESIDENTS, CITY LEADERS AND SAFETY EXPERTS HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO FULLY EVALUATE THE RISKS, INFRASTRUCTURE DEMANDS, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND POTENTIAL POWER GENERATION CONSEQUENCES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE PROJECTS. A PAUSE IS NOT A REJECTION. A PAUSE IS RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP. AND ALSO, WE'VE GATHERED NEARLY 3000 SIGNATURES OF LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ACTUALLY AGREE WITH PLACING A MORATORIUM, NOT 1500, AS RON CAMPBELL SUGGESTED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. PATRICIA SPELMAN, PATRICIA SPILLMAN, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? HOPEFULLY I CAN BEHEAD MY CHICKENS AT YOUR FARM. JUST JOKING. YEAH. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. AND YOUR ADDRESS, MA'AM? 4965 BEATTY ROAD. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR STAGE. THE VIEWS AND OPINIONS TO FOLLOW ARE SOLELY MY OWN. MERRIAM WEBSTER'S DEFINITION OF GREED IS THE SELFISH AND EXCESSIVE DESIRE FOR MORE OF SOMETHING THAN IS NEEDED AND MOTIVATED. MOTIVATED BY NAKED AMBITION, THE BIBLE DEFINES GREED AS AN INTENSE, SELFISH, AND INSATIABLE DESIRE FOR MORE, SUCH AS MONEY, POSSESSIONS, POWER, OR PLEASURE THAT SURPASSES NEED AND DISREGARDS OTHERS. I'M CONFIDENT IN ASSUMING THAT MR. BENNINGTON, MR. PALMER, MR. FARTHING, AND MR. BRYANT, WHO ARE THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE PROPOSED BEATTY ROAD DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT SITE, DID NOT SEEK OUT HEADWATERS. HEADWATERS APPROACHED ALL OF US IN THE SURROUNDING AREA WITH LETTERS OF INTENT AS FAR BACK AS MAY OF 2025, OFFERING US 150% OVER MARKET VALUE FOR OUR LAND. WE ARE OFFERED EXORBITANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON A WEEKLY BASIS FOR OUR FARM. I HONESTLY FEEL IF GROVE CITY'S AGREED TO CONSTANTLY EXPAND ITS BOUNDARIES WERE TO STOP, THIS SITUATION WOULD NOT HAVE GONE THIS FAR. I'M OFTEN TOLD I'M TOO EMOTIONAL IN THIS SITUATION AND SHOULD STICK TO THE ANALYTICAL SIDE OF THINGS. HIT
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CITY COUNCIL WITH DATA. STICK TO THE FACTS. WELL, HERE ARE SOME COLD HARD FACTS FOR YOU GUYS. NOBLE. SPILLMAN. BALL. KINGS. COPELAND. POLING. GRUNDY. MURRAY. ELSWICK. MCGUIRE. YAO.BERRY. WEIDMAN. WHEELER. GOTTEMOELLER. STRANAHAN. MARTIN. NADER. KAZARIAN. MATTSON.
WILLING. OFFENBURGER, RUTH. THORNTON AND GANTZ. THOSE ARE JUST HALF OF THE 45 FAMILIES I HAVE PERSONALLY VISITED THIS PAST WEEKEND SIT IN THEIR KITCHENS, ON THEIR PORCHES AND MET THEIR GRANDCHILDREN. THESE FAMILIES WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WERE ALWAYS A PART OF GROVE CITY. THEY SHOP IN YOUR GROCERY STORES, DINING YOUR RESTAURANTS, AND SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS. THESE 45 FAMILIES ARE NOW COMING TO THE REALIZATION THAT GROVE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT CONSIDER US IN THE TOWNSHIP COMMUNITIES AN IMPORTANT PART OF GROVE CITY. WE ARE NOT WORTH FIGHTING FOR. AS PER THE 2050 PLAN, OUR COMMUNITY IS DESIGNATED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRY. INDUSTRY. OUR FEAR IS NO LONGER JUST HEADWATERS. IT'S ALSO WHO AND WHAT YOU LET DESTROY OUR COMMUNITY AFTER YOU LET THEM IN THE DOOR. SO ANSWER THIS FOR ME, COUNCIL MEMBERS. ARE EACH OF YOU WILLING TO SIT IN THOSE KITCHENS AND ON THOSE PORCHES AND EXPLAIN TO THOSE 45 FAMILIES WHY YOU FAILED THEM SO MISERABLY? AFTER WE HAVE SUPPORTED YOU AND GROVE CITY OUR ENTIRE LIVES. THANK YOU.
SANDRA HOOKER. SANDRA HOOKER. IS SHE HERE TONIGHT? SANDRA HOOKER. SANDRA HOOKER, SHE'S SHE'S HERE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. OH, THAT'S OKAY. IF SHE CAN COME ON IN. SHE'S NEXT ON THE LIST. MR. PRESIDENT. SHE IS HERE TO ASSIST MR. TIFFORD UNDER DEPARTMENT REPORTS. OH, OKAY. MISS HOOKER, WE HAVE ONE MORE PERSON TO TESTIFY OR THAT WANTS TO SPEAK. AND THEN YOU AND AND KEVIN CAN DO YOUR THING. IS THAT OKAY? WELL, WHATEVER YOU'RE PLANNING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING. OKAY, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER ON THE LIST BY THE NAME OF A AMY WATSON. I'LL SAY MY NAME. THANK YOU. I'M DOCTOR AMY WATSON GRACE 2033 BELLFLOWER COURT.
GOTCHA. YOU ALL GOOD VOICE I'M MIKE THANKS. CAN YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU SAY YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN.
SO IT'S ON THE RECORDING FOR HER 2033 BELLFLOWER COURT DOCTOR AMY WATSON GRACE THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE LIKE MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS, I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT IN GROVE CITY. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THERE'S CURRENTLY NO FORMAL PROPOSAL BEFORE THE COUNCIL, ACTIONS ARE BEING TAKEN TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR SUCH A PROPOSAL. SO TO USE LACK OF A FORMAL PROPOSAL AS AN EXCUSE TO AVOID DISCUSSION IS DISINGENUOUS. FOR EXAMPLE, REGARDING GROUNDWORK, IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION THIS EVENING FROM A FRIEND WHOSE FAMILIES OWNED A FARM ON RANCH ROAD FOR MANY YEARS THAT HAD WATERS ONCE THEIR LAND. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS FAMILY RECENTLY LEARNED THAT HEADWATERS TOLD THEIR NEIGHBORS THEY HAD ALREADY AGREED TO SELL, AND THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS ABOUT THIS LIE BEING USED TO PRESSURE OTHERS INTO SELLING. THE FACT THAT HEADWATERS, THE FACT THAT HEADWATERS IS ATTEMPTING TO BUY LAND AND DECEIVE GROVE CITY AND TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS, RAISES SOME OBVIOUS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. WHY IS HEADWATERS ATTEMPTING TO BUY LAND PROPOSED FOR ANNEXATION FOR THE DATA CENTER PROJECT, IF GROVE CITY OFFICIALS HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THE LAND WILL BE ANNEXED AND THE DATA CENTER PROPOSAL WILL BE APPROVED. ALSO, IS IT LEGAL FOR HEADWATERS TO LIE LIKE THIS? HAS GROVE CITY HINTED TO HEADWATERS IN ANY WAY THAT THEY WILL ANNEX THIS LAND AND HAVE ANY GROVE CITY OFFICIALS SIGNED NDAS ABOUT THE UNOFFICIAL DATA CENTER PROPOSAL? WE DESERVE TRANSPARENCY BEFORE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE DECISIONS ARE MADE, NOT AFTER. ANNEXATION IS NOT A MINOR ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION. IT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGES LAND USE EXPECTATIONS, INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, UTILITY DEMAND, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, AND LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FEELS SNEAKY, LIKE OUR OFFICIALS ARE GREASING THE WHEELS SO THAT WHEN A FORMAL PROPOSAL DOES COME, IT CAN BE ACTED UPON QUICKLY, TOO QUICKLY. BECAUSE TAKING ANY STEPS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY EVALUATE A FORMAL PROPOSAL, FAILS TO REPRESENT THE VOTERS WHO ELECTED YOU AND UNDERMINES TRUST IN THE PROCESS.
DATA CENTERS ARE NOT NEUTRAL DEVELOPMENTS. WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL CONCERNS ABOUT ENERGY CONSUMPTION, WATER USAGE, NOISE POLLUTION, ENVIRONMENTAL STRAIN, AND LIMITED COMMUNITY BENEFIT RELATIVE TO RESOURCE DEPLETION. THESE FACILITIES CONSUME ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY AND WATER. HOW SUSTAINABLE IS SUCH RESOURCE USE LONG TERM? AND WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS ULTIMATELY BEAR MOST OF THE BURDEN FOR INCREASED COSTS? WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT PERSISTENT LOW FREQUENCY NOISE PROBLEMS WITH SLEEP DISTURBANCE AND CHRONIC NOISE
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EXPOSURE, AND I WON'T EVEN GO INTO THE IMPACT ON AUTISTIC INDIVIDUALS WHOSE PREVALENCE IS NOW 1 IN 31. OVERALL, DEVELOPERS ARE ASKING US TO TRADE OUR PRICELESS NATURAL RESOURCES FOR DATA CENTERS THAT ARE KNOWN TO PROVIDE LIMITED, LASTING ECONOMIC OR OTHER BENEFIT TO RESIDENTS. WE ARE NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ARE ANTI DATA CENTER AND WE'RE ASKING FOR HONESTY, TRANSPARENCY AND MEANINGFUL PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE DECISIONS ARE MADE THAT COULD PERMANENTLY ALTER OUR COMMUNITY. IF THIS RUMORED ANNEXATION IS TRULY UNRELATED TO A FUTURE DATA CENTER, THEN CLEARLY EXPLAIN ITS PURPOSE OR PUT THE RUMORS TO REST. IF IT IS CONNECTED TO A PROPOSED DATA CENTER PROJECT, WE DESERVE FULL DISCLOSURE NOW.THANK YOU. MISS HOOKER. OKAY, NOW WE WANT YOU MIGHT SCOOT UP THERE A LITTLE BIT. SO, MR. BERRY. YES, I, I WANT TO GO ON RECORD. THERE HAVE BEEN NO NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS SIGNED BY ANY CITY OFFICIAL. THAT'S CORRECT. GO AHEAD. PLEASE, MISS HOOKER. OKAY. ME AND MR. OKAY. FIRST, FIRST OF ALL, I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS SANDRA HOOKER. I LIVE AT 2971 WOODGROVE DRIVE. I'VE BEEN HERE TEN YEARS. OKAY? I'M AN ADVOCATE AGAINST DRIVERS WHO CAUSE SERIOUS INJURIES IN THE TRAFFIC CRASHES. MY SON, JAMES OLSON, WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED.
SEPTEMBER 30TH 23 BY DRIVING BY A DRIVER WHO WAS AT FAULT. AND WHILE JAMES WAS CROSSING THE STREET WITHIN THE CROSSWALKS AND DRIVING, GOT AWAY AND GOT AWAY WITH ACCOUNTABILITY AND A SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR $150, LEAVING THE. LEAVING JAMES WITH ALL KINDS OF INJURIES. BUT TODAY I AM HERE ADVOCATING AGAINST THIS. I AM STILL ADVOCATING AGAINST THIS CURRENT LAW THAT WE HAVE TODAY. BUT NOW I WANT TO ANNOUNCE ME AND MR. KIEFER IS GETTING READY TO HAVE A TOWN HALL MEETING JUNE THE 4TH, FOURTH, 2026. AND WE ARE WE ARE ASKING FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF GROVE CITY TO ATTEND THIS TOWN HALL MEETING. WE. WE ARE BUILDING A. WE ARE BUILDING A SAFE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND WE ARE WILLING. WELCOME ALL CONCERNED VOICES AND YOUR INPUT ON THE MATTER. THE TOPIC IS GOING TO BE TRAFFIC SAFETY, CRASH CONSISTENCY, STATISTICS AND ENFORCEMENT OF ENFORCEMENT IN OHIO. BILL 714 STRATEGY TO IMPROVEMENT. PEDESTRIANS AND SAFETY. DRIVERS. SAFETY AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. WE WANT ALL THE. WE ARE WELCOME. ALL THE CITIZENS OF GROVE CITY TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS AT THIS MEETING BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MAYOR. YOUR REPORT SIR. THANK YOU, MR.
[Call for Dept. Reports & Closing Comments ]
BERRY. A LOT OF ITEMS, BUT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM VERY QUICKLY. WE HAVE NO MAYOR'S REPORT OR NO MAYOR'S REPORT THIS EVENING. BUT A COUPLE HIGHLIGHTS. THE SONS OF THE OHIO AMERICAN LEGION WERE IN TOWN SATURDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, FRIDAY AFTERNOON, SATURDAY AND PART OF SUNDAY. AND THANKS TO THE VCB AND TERESA BRECKENRIDGE IN PARTICULAR FOR ARRANGING THEIR STAY AND AND SO FORTH. BUT IT WAS QUITE A GIFT TO US TO HAVE THAT ELITE GROUP IN GROVE CITY. THURSDAY, THE OFFICIAL RIBBON CUTTING OF THE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL CLOSE TO HOME. ANOTHER GIFT TO OUR CITY WAS WAS HELD AND THEN AN OPEN HOUSE WAS HELD ON SATURDAY. BUT THAT IS AN INCREDIBLE FACILITY AND TRULY WITH ALL THE OTHER FACILITIES WE HAVE NOW, WE, I THINK, HAVE RUN THE GAMUT OF OUR SPECIALTY MEDICINE AND THE THINGS THAT OUR CITIZENS NEED.LIBRARY LEVY PASSED. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT, WHICH AGAIN, IS QUITE REMARKABLE. IT DID NOT PASS IN A COUPLE OF AREAS, BUT MOSTLY FOR GROVE CITY. IT WAS LIKE A 6,040% MARGIN. THE POPULATION REPORT WAS INTERESTING. INTERESTING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY READ IT IN THE DISPATCH, BUT I THINK IT WAS NUMBER TWO IN FRANKLIN COUNTY OVER THE LAST YEAR IN GROWTH. AND THEN I THINK LIKE 11TH IN THE STATE. AND THAT'S NOT THAT WE WANT TO GO OUT AND
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BUY AND HAVE HOUSES BUILT EVERY SQUARE FOOT. BUT IT IS, AGAIN, A COMPLIMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT, NUMBER ONE, WE'RE WELCOMING AND ALSO THAT WE HAVE A GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE. AND SO IT'S QUITE A STATEMENT. THE COMMUNITY WINS. I HOPE ALL YOU FOLKS SHOW UP AND CLAP AS LOUD AS FRIDAY NIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT THE AMPHITHEATER. AN INCREDIBLE CONCERT FRIDAY NIGHT HERE IN DOWNTOWN GROVE CITY. THE. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE CLERK OF COUNCIL A LETTER FOR THE RECORD OF CITY COUNCIL. IT WAS SENT TO THE TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES. SOME WAY OR ANOTHER.IT GOT INTERPRETED AS BEING A DATA CENTER LETTER, BUT IT WAS QUITE, QUITE, NOT QUITE THE OPPOSITE. IT'S A LETTER THAT THE TOWNSHIP IS WORKING ON FORMING A TIF DISTRICT THAT WOULD INCLUDE AREAS DOWN TO RANCH ROAD, AND WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW THAT WOULD WORK. AND WE ASKED FOR THEM TO TABLE THIS AND THAT GOT VOTED DOWN. THEY WENT AHEAD AND VOTED FOR IT.
BUT FOR THE RECORD OF THE CITY OF GROVE CITY, THIS LETTER WAS ISSUED AND THE PLEA WAS MADE TO TABLE THE ITEM. FINALLY, JUST A QUESTION ON THAT. YES, SIR. HOW SO? JACKSON TOWNSHIP'S BEEN IN HERE SEVERAL TIMES WHEN WE DO TIFFS AND THINGS, AND THEY'VE MADE COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TIFFS HURT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO ARE THEY'RE PASSING A TIFF THAT WOULD TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? I DOUBT IT, BUT THE VAGUENESS AND NOT KNOWING THE ANSWER IS EXACTLY WHY WE WROTE THE LETTER. DON'T KNOW. MEMORIAL DAY, OF COURSE, IS MONDAY 11:00, FORMS UP AT OLPH. AND THEN IT CONCLUDES THAT THE CEMETERY, GROCERY CEMETERY AND I HAVE SOME OTHERS, BUT I'M GOING TO FORFEIT THOSE AND ASK ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. BOZO.
I HAVE NOTHING THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE ROOM COMING TO THE PODIUM? THERE'S NO ENTRY. MUSIC, MISTER SHANNON HAMMONDS WITH OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYOR MENTIONED IT BECAUSE I WAS STANDING OUTSIDE.
DO YOU SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THE TOUCH A TRUCK EVENT WE HAD THIS PAST WEEKEND? SO WE HAD SEVERAL THOUSAND FAMILIES OR PEOPLE. A LOT OF FAMILIES TOUCH A TRUCK DOWNTOWN, AND IT KIND OF AUGMENTED THE STUFF THAT WAS GOING ON DOWN HERE WITH THE OTHER ACTIVITIES IN THE TOWN CENTER. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR SUPPORT THAT CAME OUT. IT WAS KICKING OFF NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, WHICH IS THIS WEEK. SO WE HAD A GREAT TIME. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY. AND NEXT YEAR, IF YOU COME, MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET YOUR LITTLE ONES AND GET THE PAIN ON THEIR HANDS BECAUSE IT'S ON THE FRONT OF THE PLOW AND THAT THOSE HANDPRINTS WILL STAY ON THE PLOW ALL WINTER. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WILL SEE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS? IT LOOKS LIKE NOT. WE WILL GO INTO CLOSING COMMENTS. OKAY. FIRST, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE CLOSE TO HOME CHILDREN'S. IT WAS IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY, REALLY NEAT. IT TOOK ME BACK TO WHEN MY KIDS WERE YOUNGER AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO DRIVE UP TO DOWNTOWN OR, OR DUBLIN OR WHEREVER. AND THAT DEFINITELY IS NICE. GOING TO BE NICE TO HAVE HAVE IT CLOSE AND IN TOWN. HOPEFULLY NOBODY EVER HAS TO GO TO IT. BUT REALLY NICE. I THOUGHT SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE DATA CENTERS SEEM TO BE ON EVERYBODY'S MIND, I'D JUST SHARE A COUPLE OF MY THOUGHTS. SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD SOME OF THIS, THOSE OF YOU THAT I'VE INTERACTED WITH DIRECTLY, WHETHER IT BE EMAIL OR PHONE CALLS OR WHATEVER. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. EVERYBODY IS. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE IN GROVE CITY UNIFIED BEHIND A PARTICULAR ISSUE LIKE I AM SEEING. BUT, YOU KNOW, A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE OBVIOUSLY RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE, WATER, ENERGY DEMAND, INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, PUBLIC SAFETY, LONG TERM QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THOSE CONCERNS ABSOLUTELY DESERVE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF GROVE CITY.
IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ONLINE, YOU FIND THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE LIKE THESE EXTREMES. MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT AT THE END POINTS OF THOSE EXTREMES. BUT ONE EXTREME IS IF THERE'S A DATA CENTER, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO DIE. AND THE OTHER END OF IT IS IF THERE'S A DATA CENTER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD OUR SCHOOLS OUT OF GOLD. I DON'T THINK EITHER ONE OF THOSE ARE TRUE. WE'RE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, OBVIOUSLY, AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FIND IS WHERE WHERE IS THAT? SOMEWHERE
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IN THE MIDDLE. IF I IF I COULD FINISH. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MONEY BEING FLUSHED WITH MONEY, WE ALL HEARD THAT WITH THE LOTTERY AND CASINOS ARE RIGHT. I MEAN, OUR, OUR, OUR SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO BE FLUSH WITH MONEY. DID THAT EVER HAPPEN? NO, IT DID, IT DID NOT. SO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE SKEPTICAL. SO AT ISSUE HONESTLY, IN MY OPINION, THAT ISSUE IS A LACK OF CLEAR FACT BASED INFORMATION IN AND ENFORCEABLE METRICS AND STANDARDS. NOT ASSUMPTIONS, NOT FEARS AND NOT MARKETING MATERIALS. GROVE CITY CANNOT RELY ON ASSURANCES OR VAGUE PROMISES BEFORE ANY. ANY HIGH IMPACT PROJECT, INCLUDING DATA CENTERS, IS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED. CONSIDERED. THE CITY NEEDS MEASURABLE BENCHMARKS, ENFORCEABLE PROTECTIONS BASED ON CLEARLY DEFINED STANDARDS AND METRICS, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CASE FOR NOISE, WATER USE, ENERGY DEMAND, EMISSIONS, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS, FISCAL IMPACT, AND PUBLIC SAFETY. IN MY OPINION, THESE STANDARDS AND METRICS NEED TO BE CLEARLY DEFINED AND CODIFIED IN OUR CITY CODE. YES. YES. I DID NOT HAVE A PAUSE FOR APPLAUSE THERE. YEAH, WELL, THERE YOU GO. SO YOU KNOW IT. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT THAT THIS WAS NOT THAT WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THAT LAST DATA CENTER DISCUSSION, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE NOW IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE REACTIVE, WE'RE HAVING TO BE REACTIVE INSTEAD OF BEING AND BEING PROACTIVE.WE LITERALLY JUST PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO ADD CHICKENS TO OUR CITY CODE. IF WE CAN ADD CHICKENS TO OUR CITY CODE, I THINK WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THE DATA CENTER, RIGHT? YES, YES. SO. THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF, IF, IF, IF THERE'S A IF A PROJECT CANNOT PROVIDE A LEVEL OF CLARITY, PROOF, AND I DO MEAN PROOF OF PROTECTIONS, ENFORCEABILITY, THEN THE APPROPRIATE ANSWER IS TO NOT TO MOVE FORWARD. THE APPROPRIATE ANSWER IS TO STOP UNTIL IT CAN BE. OR IF THOSE STANDARDS CAN NEVER BE MET, PROVABLE CAN NEVER BE MET, THEN THE PROJECT SHOULD NOT BE SHOULD NOT PROCEED AT ALL. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF MY THOUGHTS. IT'S A PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH. EXACTLY. OH. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. BARRY. I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE NATIONWIDE. I THINK IT WAS THE GRAND OPENING THAT WAS ON SATURDAY OR GRAND OPENING. YEAH. JUST VERY IMPRESSED AND HAPPY THAT THEY ARE HERE IN GROVE CITY. I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH OUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT THIS PAST MONDAY, I BELIEVE. I THINK MR. JACK CASTLE AND MISS BRIANNA, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB WITH KEEPING OUR CITY ENGAGED AND A LOT OF THE PROGRAMING THAT'S HAPPENING. I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO CHECK OUT THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA OR THE WEBSITE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE COMING UP. I KNOW THE SUMMER CONCERT SERIES IS ALSO COMING UP, WHICH IS AN EXCITING TIME. I'LL BE. I'LL BE COMING OUT TO A COUPLE OF THOSE AS WELL. TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT MR. ALLEN HAD MENTIONED IN REGARDS TO THE DATA CENTERS. YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS, AND A LOT OF THOSE EMAILS HAVE CONTAINED ARTICLES, RESEARCH, OPINIONS, INFORMATION. AND I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION, I THINK I WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO SAY I THINK OUR OUR RESIDENTS DO DESERVE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TAKE A STANCE AND, AND MAKE THEIR STANCE CLEAR. YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MEAN THAT WE SUPPORT OR DON'T SUPPORT DATA CENTERS, BUT IT'S A COMMITMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO OUR RESEARCH. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LEARN AND CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS PUBLICLY AND WITHIN OURSELVES TO EDUCATE NOT ONLY OURSELVES, BUT THE PUBLIC AS WELL. PERSONALLY, I DO SUPPORT A 12 MONTH MORATORIUM, AND I BELIEVE. THIS IS NOT IN RESPONSE TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT IN DATA CENTERS IN GENERAL. I THINK WE HAVE A LOT MORE THAT WE NEED TO DO. MR. STERN MENTIONS STANDARDS. I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT THOSE STANDARDS CANNOT BE MET. WHILE WE HAVE AN ACTIVE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF US, I THINK WE NEED TIME TO BE ABLE TO DIVE INTO THAT, TO LEARN MORE, TO SEE WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE SPECIFIC PROPOSAL, BUT IN GENERAL. AND I THINK WE ALSO NEED A VERY CLEAR JUDGMENT CRITERIA. YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M WHEN I'M JUDGING A PROJECT OF THAT SCALE, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT I'M LOOKING AT. WHAT AM I SCORING BASED OFF OF? I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME. I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S ALSO UNFAIR TO US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO MAKE THAT JUDGMENT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK A MORATORIUM SENDS A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE TO OUR PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. BUT I THINK IT SENDS AN EVEN STRONGER MESSAGE TO OUR DEVELOPERS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE WILLING TO DO OUR RESEARCH. AND TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING
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TO BE TOO HAPPY WITH THIS, BUT THERE IS A PROPOSAL FOR A MORATORIUM THAT WAS WORKED ON WITH OUR FELLOW CITY ATTORNEY, AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN THAT'S GOING TO COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. BUT FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS A PROPOSAL, A MORATORIUM THAT I'VE WORKED ON THAT IS SITTING IN OUR INBOX. MISS ANDERSON. THANK YOU. I, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO IS COMING OUT AND TALKING ABOUT DATA CENTERS. I AM HEARING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, I AM LISTENING, I'M READING YOUR EMAILS, AND I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN THE WORK AND WE NEED TO HAVE WORK SESSIONS AND BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE AND DO LOTS OF RESEARCH AND CONTINUE LISTENING. SO KEEP COMING. THANK YOU. I'M HEARING ALL OF YOU. I'D ALSO BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT CHILDREN'S CLOSE TO HOME FOR A MINUTE. REC CENTER. YEP. CHILDREN'S CLOSE TO HOME, I THINK IS JUST AN A MONUMENTAL ADD TO OUR COMMUNITY. I AM A PARENT RAISING CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE ALSO MADE NUMEROUS TRIPS OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT THAT CHILDREN'S CLOSE TO HOME IN GROVE CITY BRINGS TO NOT JUST GROVE CITY, BUT EVEN THE RURAL AREAS THAT ARE SOUTH AND OUTSKIRTS WHO HAD TO DRIVE PAST GROVE CITY INTO DOWNTOWN OR TO DUBLIN OR TO OTHER AREAS AROUND. AND IF YOU GO ON THEIR WEBSITE LOOKING TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT JUST DUBLIN, THEY'RE IN HILLIARD, THEY'RE IN ALL THE OTHER COMMUNITIES. SO IT IS A HUGE BENEFIT THAT THEY ARE FINALLY HERE IN GROVE CITY. SO THANK YOU. AND THEN LASTLY, I DO WANT TO BRING UPDATES FROM THE PARK BOARD. THIS PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE JACK CASSEL OR BRIANNA'S DEPARTMENT UPDATES, BUT I AM THE CHAIR OF THE PARKS COMMITTEE. I'M NOT THE CHAIR OF THE PARK BOARD THAT IS THE PARK BOARD THEMSELVES. BUT I DO ATTEND ALL OF THE PARK BOARD MEETINGS AND LIAISON WITH THE PARK BOARD, AND I BRING INFORMATION BACK TO COUNCIL IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THERE HAS BEEN LOTS ABOUT JUST THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN ITSELF.WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'LL BE AN UPCOMING WORK SESSION, I BELIEVE, POTENTIALLY MID JUNE.
SO WE DON'T 15TH MAY 15TH, MONDAY THE 15TH. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SET IN STONE. BUT JUST SAYING THAT. AND THEN ALSO FROM THE PARK, THE PARKS AND REC TEAM AND THE PARK BOARD, THERE IS THE TOWN CENTER PROPOSAL THAT WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL A FEW MONTHS BACK, WHICH IS OUR TOWN CENTER GREEN SPACE OVER HERE WHERE THERE'S A STAGE. MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS PRELIMINARY JUST IDEAS, VERY HIGH PIE IN THE SKY DESIGNS OF WHAT IT POTENTIALLY COULD LOOK LIKE WITH A WITH A RANGE PRICE OF 8 MILLION TO 11 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN WORKED ON. AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A TIGHTER DESIGN AND COST. SO THE PARK TEAM WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL UPCOMING SOON. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THAT AWARENESS.
AND THEN ALSO THE PARK PARKS DEPARTMENT AND JACK CASSEL, OUR DIRECTOR, IS WORKING ON A MASTER PLAN UPDATE. THAT HAS TO DO WITH LOOKING AT THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS OF OUR PARK PARKS.
THAT'S OUR MICRO POCKET PARKS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, ALL OF THE PARKS THAT YOU KNOW OF IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THAT ENTIRE MASTER PLAN NEEDS TO BE. THEY ARE POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY TOWN HALLS COMING IN JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AWARENESS IS OUT THERE. AS WE'RE TALKING ALSO ABOUT CONVERSATIONS FOR THE DATA CENTER. AND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONVERSATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, ANYTHING THAT ARE IN THOSE SPECIFIC COMMUNITY TOWN HALLS. ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN, MASTER PARKS PLAN UPDATE WILL BE SPECIFIC TO THOSE PARKS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANTING TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT THAT WILL BE SPECIFIC TO WHAT THAT MASTER PLAN IS FOR THE PARKS IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I THINK THAT IS IT FOR ME. THAT'S A LOT. THANK YOU. YES, GEORGE, I TEND TO HAVE A LOT FEWER WORDS THAN EVERYONE ELSE. I COMPLETE THE ECHO. WHAT MR. STURM HAD TO SAY.
I'M SKEPTICAL OF ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I GET ON DATA CENTERS, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING OUT AND VOICING THEIR OPINION. I THINK THIS IS A VERY THIS IS THE THIS IS THE USA. THIS IS THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. WE SHOULD LISTEN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT DATA CENTERS WHEN THE ISSUE CAME UP MONTHS AGO, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT
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I'M ABSORBING ALL THE INFORMATION I CAN POSSIBLY GET ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND VISITING PEOPLE THAT ARE TOTALLY ANTI, SOME THAT ARE FOR, ETC. I, I, I TEND TO, AS FAR AS SKEPTICAL OF THINGS, I WAS BROUGHT UP THAT WE HAD SIGNED A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, NDA. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF ANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ME PERSONALLY, OKAY, MY ETHICS ARE, I THINK, PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD. IF ANYONE CAME TO ME AND SAID, I WANT YOU TO SIGN AN NDA SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT, THAT FOR ME WOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC NO ON A DATA CENTER. SO JUST LET'S CLARIFY THAT. OKAY, SO I'M TRYING TO BE TOTALLY OBJECTIVE. THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT MY LIFE, WHENEVER I CAME TO A SITUATION LIKE THIS, I USED THE FRANKLIN METHOD OF DECISION MAKING. YOU DO TWO COLUMNS, HERE'S ALL THE NEGATIVES, HERE'S ALL THE POSITIVES, OKAY? AND THIS IS JUST GEORGE SPEAKING. IF THOSE COLUMNS WERE 5050, IF THEY WERE IDENTICAL, MY TIEBREAKER WOULD BE WHAT DO MY CONSTITUENTS WANT AND WHAT DO THEY FEEL IS THE RIGHT WAY. SO FOR ME, THIS IS JUST ME SPEAKING. NOW, IF IF IT WAS EVEN EVEN STEVEN, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD REALLY TIP THE SCALE. SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE INPUT. I PROBABLY GET 50 EMAILS A WEEK. I'VE GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO THAN ANSWER EMAILS. I READ JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE, BUT I DON'T TAKE TIME TO ANSWER EVERYONE, BUT I TAKE EVERYONE UNDER CONSIDERATION. SO WHAT? WHATEVER WE END UP DOING, REST ASSURED THAT I WILL NOT VOTE ON ANYTHING WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I CAN POSSIBLY ABSORB. OKAY, SO THAT'S JUST GEORGE SPEAKING, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING OUT AND VOICING THEIR OPINION TONIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. HOLT. HOW ABOUT THAT FOOD TRUCK FRIDAY? THAT WAS GOOD. GO AHEAD. FEELING COMPELLED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT DATA CENTERS, I'LL JUST SAY I WOULD SIDE WITH ALAN HERE. I JUST NEED TO SEE THE FACTS AND ALL THE INFORMATION. THERE'S LOTS OF INFORMATION, GOOD AND BAD, OUT THERE, AND IT'S OUR JOB TO FIGURE IT OUT. AND MR. BERRY HAS SET UP SEVERAL MEETINGS AND TOWN HALLS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT AND FIGURE IT OUT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.ALL RIGHT. SO SO HERE WE GO. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN WHAT I POSTED AND EVERYTHING, BUT I I WANTED TO READ IT BECAUSE MY 92 YEAR OLD MOTHER, MY 92 YEAR OLD MOTHER, SAYS THAT NOT EVERYBODY SEES IT. SO EXCUSE ME. MY TURN. THANKS.
SO WE'VE BEEN MADE AWARE. THE THE LAW FIRM HAS BEEN HAS TOLD US THAT THAT THEY ARE ANTICIPATING. AND THE WORD WAS ANTICIPATING DROPPING A PRE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SOMETIME BY THE END OF THE MONTH. THAT BEING SAID, I INSTANTLY CALLED THE CLERK AND WE STARTED TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHEN COULD WE HAVE MEETINGS? BECAUSE GETTING SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE PEOPLE TOGETHER FOR MEETINGS IS NOT EASY. BUT SO I WANTED TO READ WHAT I POSTED. A PRE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL SHOW A CONCEPT THAT WILL HAVE LIMITED INFORMATION. THIS IS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO DECIDE IF A PLAN IS ACCEPTED AS ACCEPTABLE. IN PRINCIPLE, IT IS NOT AN ANNEXATION, A REZONING, A USE APPROVAL AND APPROVAL TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. EACH OF THESE ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY WITH THEIR OWN PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND A TIMELINE. IF AN APPLICATION IS MADE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD HEAR THIS ON JULY 7TH AT 1:30 P.M. I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. I, I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE OF THE OF THE ADMINISTRATION PER THEIR REGULAR SCHEDULE. IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT A SPECIAL. THAT SPECIAL MEETINGS WILL BE DONE ALSO BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
THAT'S ON THAT'S ON THEIR LIST, NOT IT HASN'T GOT TO US. COUNCIL MAY BE HOLDING THE FOLLOWING MEETINGS. IF THAT PROPOSAL. IF THAT CONCEPT PLAN IS DROPPED, JUNE 1ST COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE MOVED UP TO 530. THE REGULAR CAUCUS MEETING THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE AT AT SIX WOULD BE MOVED UP TO 530, 6:00 WOULD BE THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. THEN WE WOULD ASK THE THE APPLICANT TO COME IN AND GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT, ON WHATEVER THEY'RE SUBMITTING THAT DAY UNDER NEW BUSINESS, A SPECIAL PRESENTATION. IF YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE THREE MINUTES,
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I DON'T THINK YOU WANT THEM TO. I THINK WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY UNDER NEW BUSINESS. COME ON GUYS, LET ME FINISH READING UNDER NEW BUSINESS A SPECIAL PRESENTATION BY HEAD WATER AS POSSIBLE, PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF THEIR PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL ALSO BE INVITED TO ATTEND. THEY WILL ALSO PRESENT WHEN. THEY WILL ALSO PRESENT WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION MEETS AGAIN ANTICIPATED JULY 7TH. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE. RESIDENTS WILL BE ASKED AT THAT POINT IN TIME, ANY QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I KNOW JEN, YOU GUYS ALL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN EMAILS AND THINGS. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PULL THOSE QUESTIONS TOGETHER AND GROUP THEM. BUT RESIDENTS WILL BE ASKED TO PUT ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON CARDS OR SUBMIT THEM TO THE CLERK OF COUNCIL ON 622 FOR DISCUSSION ON AT 629 ROUND TABLE. THAT ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION WILL BASICALLY BE COUNCIL IN THE ADMINISTRATION.IT WILL BE HERE, IT'LL BE VIDEOTAPED AND EVERYTHING ELSE. OUR GOAL AT THAT MEETING IS TO IS TO CLUMP ALL THE QUESTIONS TOGETHER, WHETHER IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL, WHETHER IT'S ENERGY CONSUMPTION, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, IS TO PUT THOSE QUESTIONS TOGETHER IN, IN A, IN A COMPACT WAY THAT AND THEN DECIDE ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO OBTAIN INFORMATION AND DATA ON THOSE THINGS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT ALAN IS SAYING AS FAR AS BUILDING A MATRIX. THAT START TIME WILL BE AT 530. THESE MEETINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN UPDATED ON TAMMY'S ALREADY UPDATED THEM ON THE CITY WEBSITE. RESIDENTS WILL BE ASKED EVEN AT THAT TIME THAT YOU CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS ON CARDS AND EVERYTHING. NOW KEEP IN MIND THIS TYPE OF MEETING IS USUALLY DOES NOT HAPPEN IN ANY OF OUR PLANNING STAGES BECAUSE WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS IS IT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY HAVE THEIR HEARINGS AND THEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THE SAME INFORMATION OUT TO EVERYBODY WHEN IT'S INTRODUCED AT OUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN HAVE A MEETING PRIOR WHILE WHILE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S HOLDING THEIR MEETINGS. SO WE CAN BEGIN ASKING OUR QUESTIONS WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AND EVERYTHING. THIS IS THE THE FIRST THIS FIRST ITEM I WANT TO KEEP REITERATING IS A PRE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IF IT IS NOT ANNEXATION, IT'S NOT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IT'S OUR FIRST LOOK AT THIS CONCEPT AS A GROUP AND AS A COMMUNITY. THE THIS IS A NORMAL STEP WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DO. YOU HEARD WE HAD A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ON GROVE CITY ROAD. THEY SUBMITTED A PRE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE GROUP THAT WAS HERE ON BROADWAY LIVE SUBMITTED A PRE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WE WENT. AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND EVERYTHING.
THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS ALSO HAVING MEETINGS REGARDING DATA CENTERS. TAMMY HAS REACHED OUT TO THOSE CO-CHAIRS OF THOSE OF THOSE COMMITTEES TO OBTAIN THEIR INFORMATION, THEIR VIDEOS AND THEIR MINUTES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT WILL BE THE THAT WILL BE THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS. SO ONCE THEY ONCE THEY INTRODUCE SOMETHING INTO PLANNING COMMISSION OR DROP IT. IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE EVERYTHING WILL BE PUBLIC TO US AND EVERYBODY AROUND US. THE FIRST PRESENTATION AGAIN WILL BE JANUARY 1ST. ASSUMING THEY DO THIS. EXCUSE ME, JUNE 1ST WILL BE JUNE 1ST. SO THAT MEETING, THAT MEETING WILL BE ACTUALLY A SPECIAL PRESENTATION WHERE WE'RE ALL WHERE WE ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO LISTEN AT ONE POINT AND, AND HAVE IT ON THE RECORD AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT OH, YEAH, THAT IS, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE GOAL AT THIS POINT. AND OF COURSE, AFTER JANUARY 29TH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS IN JULY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SPEAKERS COME IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND TALK TO US. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE COLLECTING A LOT OF DATA DURING THAT. DURING THAT PROCESS. ALRIGHT. THE NEXT THE. SO AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO SUBMIT, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THEM. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ALL COLLECTING, COLLECTING QUESTIONS AND INFORMATION FROM EVERYBODY. NOW I'LL, YOU KNOW, MO TOLD YOU WHERE HE WAS ON THIS. I, I MEAN, I, I BASICALLY, MY, MY, MY POSITION ON DATA CENTERS IS THE SAME AS IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. SO THAT. SO THAT BEING SAID, THE ONLY THING THAT I MY MOTHER, PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK HERE. THE THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE AT THE END OF THIS MEETING IS MY MOTHER TEXTED ME AND SHE WANTS ONE OF THE BUTTONS TO
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