[A. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL] [00:00:07] MEETING WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. LAURA, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. ANDERS? HERE. HERE. HERE. THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS FOR US TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. AND THEN WE'LL SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AFTER THAT. SO IF YOU'LL ALL STAND, PLEASE. OKAY, WE'LL SAY THE PLEDGE. NOW. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. NOW, [C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 27TH MEETING OF THE BOARD OF BUILDINGS OR BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. ONE SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 27TH MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. MR. BRANDT? YES. ANDREWS. YES. MR. [D. NEW ITEMS] HORNE. YES. OKAY. THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS FOR THE NIGHT THAT RELATES TO VARIANCES IS TO HEAR THE APPEAL OF OLIVER HOLTZ BERRY. DINER SIGN COMPANY FOR THE NAZARENE CHURCH, 4770 HOOVER ROAD, PARCEL NUMBER 040002136. FOR THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES AND WE'LL TAKE TESTIMONY ALL THREE VARIANCES. I'LL JUST READ ON. IF PEOPLE HAVE TO SWEAR THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TALK SWEARING. OKAY. THE FIRST ITEM OH WE NEED TO SWEAR THE WITNESSES THAT WERE BEFOREHAND. SORRY, LAURA. WOULD ANYONE WHO PLANS ON SPEAKING TONIGHT PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT, AND THAT YOU'RE TESTIFYING OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL? THANK YOU. OKAY. ON THE REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE FOR THE NAZARENE CHURCH PROPERTY, THE FIRST IS SECTION 1145.16 E SIGN HEIGHT TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT OF EIGHT FEET BY ONE FOOT. SIX INCHES. FOR A TOTAL SIGN HEIGHT OF NINE FEET SIX INCHES. THE SECOND REQUEST FOR VARIANCE ON THE NAZARENE PROPERTY IS SECTION 1145.16, A SIGN AREA TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SIGN AREA OF 50FT■!S BY 78FT■!S, FOR A TOTALF 128FT■!S. AND THE THIRD REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE ON THE PROPERTY IS SECTION 1145.06. PROHIBITED SIGNS TO ALLOW ONE PANEL OF A SIGN TO BE CHANGEABLE SEASONALLY AS NEEDED. OKAY, I'LL. WOULD MR. HOLTZ BERRY LIKE TO TESTIFY? HI THERE. MY NAME IS OLIVER. I'M A DAY NIGHT SIGN COMPANY. I'M REPRESENTING THE CHURCH TONIGHT, AND PASTOR DAVID IS HERE AS WELL. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SIGN AND GIVE A LITTLE TALK ABOUT IT. AND ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTED AT THE CHURCH. I'M SURE DAVID COULD ANSWER PROBABLY MORE ACCURATE THAN ME AS WELL. SO WE ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE HEIGHT AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SIGN TO BE SLIGHTLY OVER THE NORMAL CODE. THE HEIGHT IS. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE TOTAL, INCLUDING THE BASE TO BE NINE FEET SIX INCHES RATHER THAN THE EIGHT FOOT. SO IT'S ABOUT A FOOT AND A HALF OVER THE HEIGHT AND SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE, I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE 70FT■!S OVER. THE REQUEST FOR THIS IS A LOT OF IT'S DRIVEN BY THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY BEING AS LARGE AS IT IS HAVING THE CHURCH THERE, AS WELL AS THE GROVE CITY CHRISTIAN SCHOOL AND THE EARLY SCHOOL AS WELL THERE DUE TO TO ALL THIS AND THE THE SIZE OF [00:05:04] THE PROPERTY AND THE FRONTAGE THERE, WE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS SIZE SIGN IS APPROPRIATE AND VISIBILITY WILL BE BETTER AND ALLOW US TO GET THE BRANDING FOR THE SCHOOL AND THE CHURCH. IN TERMS OF THE, THE CHANGEABLE PANEL THERE, IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE WOULD BE MORE OF LIKE A SEASONAL THING IF THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN EVENT GOING ON OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING HOLIDAY, HOLIDAY. THAT THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE SIGN AND HIGHLIGHT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE THAT'S MADE VERY OFTEN. AND IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY JUST LOOK LIKE THE OTHER PANELS ON THE SIGN. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE A, A HUGE CHANGE OR SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T GO ALONG WITH THE OTHER PANELS ON THE SIGN. THOSE ARE MY INITIAL COMMENTS. DAVID. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD OR. YEAH, NO, THAT'S. DO I NEED TO COME UP THERE SO I CAN. OKAY. OF COURSE I'M A PASTOR SO I COULD TALK FOREVER, BUT I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF. I'LL TELL YOU THIS. CURRENTLY WE HAVE OUR EXISTING SIGN. AND RIGHT NOW, REALLY WE'VE BEEN USING KIND OF A PLYWOOD SIGN OUT FRONT ADVERTISING CERTAIN EVENTS. WE'VE GOT VBS, EASTER BAPTISMS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIAL PARTS OF OUR, OUR CHURCH LIFE, BUT ALSO OUR COMMUNITY. AND OUR GOAL IS JUST TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL SIGN THAT ALLOWS US TO DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS IN THE BRANDING MATCHES UP REALLY NICELY. I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A REALLY NICE PIECE THERE ALONG THE ROAD. SO YEAH, THERE'S ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, I BELIEVE IS AROUND 2012 OR SO, THE NHA'S ACTUALLY WAS GRANTED A VARIANCE FOR A SIGN AT THAT TIME. IT ENDED UP NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH IT DUE TO JUST SOME SOME OTHER REASONS WITH THE CHURCH, BUT THE THEY DID RECEIVE A VARIANCE FOR A SIGN LIKE THAT AROUND 12 YEARS AGO, LET'S SAY. AND IT WAS FOR MORE OF A TALLER, LIKE ALMOST LIKE A PYLON LOOKING SIGN. SO WE THOUGHT GOING THIS DIRECTION WOULD ALLOW US TO KEEP IT MORE LIKE A MONUMENT STYLE SIGN THAT'S PREFERRED. SO THOSE ARE MY LAST COMMENTS. OKAY. OKAY. WOULD EITHER OF YOU WISH TO ASK QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS TO ASK. I DO KNOW THAT MANY MUNICIPALITIES AROUND COLUMBUS ALLOW YOU SIGN AREA BASED ON BUILDING FRONTAGE. SO I SEE THE CALCULATIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE. SO I DON'T BELIEVE OUR ZONING CODE ALLOWS IT THAT WAY. BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THAT IS A STANDARD. OKAY, MR. HORN, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE ACTUALLY TAKING DOWN TWO SIGNS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO CONSOLIDATE REALLY TO ONE SIGN, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. MAYBE A CLEANER LOOK. SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY REMOVING. YEAH. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST IS HOW OFTEN DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE CHANGING THE MESSAGE ON THE SIGN. CAN YOU GIVE AN ESTIMATE WILL BE SEVERAL TIMES A MONTH. WILL BE EVERY QUARTER. THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION. HOW OFTEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE DOING IT? I WAS GOING TO SAY MAYBE QUARTERLY, QUARTERLY, MAYBE SIX TIMES A YEAR, MAYBE. YEAH. OKAY. AND ONCE YOU DO THIS, IT WILL REMAIN STATIONARY. IT WILL NOT BE THE REASON I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. WE HAD ANOTHER ORGANIZATION IN GROVE CITY REQUESTS A SIGN THAT THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD CHANGE PERIODICALLY. AND I TAKE IT THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THAT CASE. ONCE YOU MAKE THE CHANGE, IT WILL STAY THAT WAY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S THE CASE. OKAY. AND THIS IS A, BACK. THIS IS A, A SIGN, BACKLIT SIGN IS ILLUMINATED. CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. IT'LL HAVE LED LIGHTS INSIDE OF IT. SO THE FACE IS LIGHT UP, PARTICULARLY THE, THE WHITE GRAPHICS ON IT WILL BE THE MOST VISIBLE AT NIGHT. YEAH. IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THERE'S ANY ELECTRIC THERE. NOW FOR THE SIGN THAT YOU'RE TAKING OUT. SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'D HAVE TO PROBABLY GET ELECTRIC PERMIT. YEAH. THERE, THERE IS ELECTRIC FOR THE. OH IT IS THERE. THE ONE THE SIGN THAT'S EXISTING OUT THERE. YEAH. THE, THE BIGGER TALL ONE BUT NOT YOUR. CORRECT. YEAH. SO SIGN IN FRONT THAT YOU'RE REPLACING. YEAH. SO [00:10:05] IT'LL NEED TO BE REROUTED TO THE NEW LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE JUST KIND OF CENTERED ON THE, THE CHURCH PROPERTY OR THE BUILDING THERE. SO IT'LL NEED MOVED A LITTLE BIT. BUT YEAH, OKAY. LAURA, HAVE WE HAD ANY ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS OR PROPERTY OWNERS ACROSS THE STREET COMMENT ON THIS? NO, SIR. OKAY. SO. THEN IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO IT? OKAY. IF NOT, THEN I WILL MAKE THE FOLLOWING MOTIONS. AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, I'LL INCLUDE ALL THREE VARIOUS REQUESTS. OR SHOULD I DO THEM SEPARATELY? RECOMMEND HAVING THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS AND THREE SEPARATE VOTES. I'LL DO THAT. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT A VARIANCE FOR THE NAZARENE CHURCH PROPERTY AT 147 70 HOOVER ROAD, PARCEL NUMBER 040002136. FOR THE FOLLOWING VARIANCE. NUMBER ONE, SECTION 1145.16 E SIGN HEIGHT TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT OF EIGHT FEET BY ONE FOOT. SIX INCHES FOR A TOTAL SIGN HEIGHT OF NINE FEET SIX INCHES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. WILL THE SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL, MR. BRANDT? YES. MR. ANDREWS. YES. MR. HAHN. YES. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO THE SECOND VARIANCE REQUEST. AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST BY THE NAZARENE CHURCH LOCATED AT 4770 HOOVER ROAD. PARCEL NUMBER 040002136. FOR THE FOLLOWING VARIANCE TO SECTION 1145.16. A SIGN AREA TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SIGN AREA OF 50FT■!S BY 78FT■!S, FOR A TOTALF 128FT■!S. DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. WILL THE SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL, MR. BRANDT? YES. MR. ANDREWS. YES. MR. HAHN. YES. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO THE THIRD REQUEST FOR VARIANCE BY THE NAZARENE CHURCH, 4770 HOOVER ROAD, PARCEL NUMBER 040002136. FOR THE FOLLOWING VARIANCE. SECTION 11 TO SECTION 1145.06. PROHIBITED SIGNS TO ALLOW ONE PANEL OF ASSIGNED TO BE CHANGEABLE SEASONALLY AS NEEDED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. MR. BRANDT? YES. MR. ANDREWS. YES. MR. HORN YES. OKAY. NOW, ALL THE VARIANCES YOU REQUESTED HAVE BEEN PASSED, BUT I'M REQUIRED TO ADVISE YOU OF THE FOLLOWING. THE BOARD HAS GRANTED YOUR VARIANCE REQUEST WITH CERTAIN CONDITIONS. THE BOARD'S DECISION, HOWEVER, IS NOT FINAL OR EFFECTIVE UNTIL 2021. DAYS FROM TODAY. YOU, AN AGGRIEVED PERSON OR ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL, MAY APPEAL THE BOARD'S DECISION. WITHIN THOSE 21 DAYS. YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ACT UNTIL THIS PERIOD ENDS. IF SUCH AN APPEAR APPEAL IS TAKEN WITHIN THAT PERIOD, THEN THE APPEAL PAUSES. THE BOARD'S DECISION TO GRANT YOUR VARIANCE REQUESTS. COUNCIL WILL HEAR THE APPEAL AT ITS NEXT REGULAR MEETING AND REACH A FINAL DECISION AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING. AFTER THAT, YOU WILL RECEIVE WRITTEN NOTICE OF ANY SUCH APPEAL WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF WHEN THE CLERK OF COUNCIL RECEIVES IT. SO. THAT'S THE CONDITIONS. AND I ALSO NEED TO ADVISE YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THE WORK WITHIN ONE YEAR, OR THE VARIANCES ALL EXPIRE. SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO LEAVE. THANK YOU FOR COMING. YEAH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO THE NEXT HEARING OF A VARIANCE REQUEST. AND THIS IS TO HEAR THE APPEAL OF ROBERT JOHNSON, PROPERTY OWNER AT 4521 HANN ROAD, PARCEL NUMBER 040 HYPHEN [00:15:13] 006924/040006925 FOR VARIANCE OF SECTION 1135.05 TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK APPROXIMATELY 30FT ON CASA BOULEVARD WITHIN A FIVE FOOT TALL WITH A FIVE FOOT TALL KENTUCKY HORSE FENCE FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF ZERO FEET. SO, MR. JOHNSON, I'M ROBERT JOHNSON. WE'LL HEAR YOUR STATEMENT AS TO WHY YOU WENT TO APPEAL. JUST TRYING TO GET THE MOST SPACE OUT OF MY YARD. I WANT TO BUILD A SMALL GARAGE IN MY YARD AS WELL. JUST. THAT'S IT. JUST TRYING TO GET THE MOST THAT I CAN OUT OF MY PROPERTY. I GOT A COUPLE LITTLE KIDS AND A DOG. JUST WANT TO UTILIZE THE SPACE FOR THE FOR MY KIDS AND STUFF. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. I MEAN, I THE THE FENCE IS ALREADY UP, CORRECT? IT IS. OKAY. SO THERE WAS NO INSPECTIONS ON THE DEPTH OF THE HOLES OR NONE OF THAT STUFF. CORRECT. I KNOW THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST THERE WAS NO INSPECTION. THERE WAS NO INSPECTION. YEAH. WHEN I BUILT THE FENCE, I WASN'T I DIDN'T REALIZE I NEEDED A PERMIT. RIGHT, RIGHT. I GOT A LETTER, GOT A PERMIT AND THEN REALIZED I WAS IN A SETBACK. AND THEN FILED FOR THE VARIANCE FOR THE SETBACK. IT'S ONLY 28FT IN THE SETBACK. IT'S NOT 30. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE HOLES ARE THREE FOOT IN THE GROUND. IT'S. DID YOU ERECT A FENCE? I DID OKAY. OH, YOU DID IT YOURSELF. YEAH, I DID IT OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING OF YOUR. YOU DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? THAT'S YOUR NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY RIGHT HERE IN THIS PICTURE, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO THAT'S YOUR NEIGHBOR THAT WOULD BE BEHIND YOU? YEAH. OKAY. HE'S PRESENT. OH. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THAT'S MY HOUSE THERE. THE GRAY ONE. OH, OKAY. RIGHT THERE. OKAY. AND THE SPACE BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE TELEPHONE POLE WAS THE OLD 16 FOOT VACANT ALLEY THAT WAS VACATED. SO ACTUALLY, THAT'S MY EIGHT FOOT OF IT. SIR, CAN I ASK YOU TO STEP TO THE PODIUM WHEN YOU SPEAK, CAN YOU STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STEP UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE? THE OTHER QUESTION WE USE FOR DID YOU STAND AND BE SWORN WHENEVER SHE GAVE THE OATH? YES YOU DID. THANK YOU. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME, SIR? GEORGE BUCK. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S HIS BACKYARD. GOOD. ANY OTHER PEOPLE'S YARDS FROM THE BACK OF THE HOUSE TO BACK PROPERTY LINE FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE TO THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE. AND THAT'S ALL HE DID. IT'S IT'S JUST ALL HIS BACKYARD. AND HE WANTS TO PROTECT HIS KIDS. AT ONE TIME, I HAD A FIVE FOOT FENCE AROUND MY WHOLE PROPERTY. IT WENT AROUND THE PERIMETER. THERE'S 2 OR 3 HOUSES UP THE ROAD. IT'S GOT THE FENCE LINE CLEAR OUT TO THE FRONT PROPERTY. AND THEN TWO THAT I KNOW OF HERE IN ACTUALLY IN GROVE CITY IS AS A HOUSE AT KINGSTON AND HAHN THAT'S GOT THE FENCE CLEAR UP. THE SIDE FENCE IS CLEAR UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN IT'S ON COLUMBUS STREET BETWEEN RICHARD AVENUE AND HORNETS. IS THAT BROOK PARK CIRCLE OR BROOK GROVE? IT STARTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF COLUMBUS STREET AND GOES LOOPS AROUND AND COMES BACK OUT BY THE CHURCH HERE ON THE HEADING TOWARDS HAHN ROAD. THAT HOUSE HAS. THE FRONT FENCE GOES CLEAR TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND. AND BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND WHAT'S FACING COLUMBUS STREET OR. YEAH, COLUMBUS STREET, IT'S ON THE PROPERTY LINE, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A ONE OF THE ONE OF A KIND THING AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT'S WELL-BUILT FENCE. IT'S WELL CONSTRUCTED, IT'S EASY TO MOW AROUND AND [00:20:01] IT'S FIVE FOOT KEEP THIS PROTECT HIS KIDS. KEEPS THEM FROM REACHING OVER THERE IN THE BACKYARD. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. I'M FOR IT. SO IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER. WELL, MY CONCERN WAS AND IT SEEMS OKAY IS, IS I'M THINKING IF I WAS THE HOMEOWNER, RIGHT. AND I'M DRIVING OUT YOUR DRIVEWAY AND IF THE FENCE WAS OUT TOWARDS THE ROAD, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE, BUT THERE IS DISTANCE AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A SOLID FENCE. SO YOU CAN SEE THROUGH IT THAT THAT'S LOOK, YOU'RE TRYING TO DRIVE IN MY DRIVEWAY AND IF YOU COME AROUND OFF A HORN ON THE CASTLE, THERE'S NO BLOCKAGE. I MEAN, RIGHT, YOU'RE LOOKING THAT FAR AND IN THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU'RE NOT WATCHING THE ROAD. SO I MEAN, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM FOR ANYBODY DRIVING. I WAS THINKING YOU AS A WHOEVER THE HOMEOWNER WAS GOING OUT OF THEIR FENCE THAT WENT OUT TO WHERE HEADS IS. THE ONLY REASON I TOOK IT DOWN WAS HAD SOMEBODY AT LATE AT NIGHT COME OFF OF HORN ROAD AND FISHTAILED. HIT MY 12 INCH TILE UNDERNEATH THE DRIVEWAY, JUMPED THE 16 FOOT DRIVEWAY AND TOOK OUT THREE POSTS. SO THEN I HAD A TREE FALL THE REST OF IT DOWN, SO IT WAS EASY FOR ME JUST TO TEAR MY FENCE DOWN. BUT OKAY, THAT'S ANYBODY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS YOUR PROPERTY WITH IN GROVE CITY OR IS IT ONE THAT LIES IN JACKSON TOWNSHIP? NO. ORIGINALLY WAS IN JACKSON TOWNSHIP WHEN THE FENCE WAS PUT UP. WE'VE SINCE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THE FENCE WAS UP OR DOWN WHEN I WHEN WE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY TO GET CITY WATER AND SEWER. THE REASON I ASKED THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE IN OUR STAFF REPORT THAT WE RECEIVED. IT WAS INDICATED THAT PROBABLY HALF OR MORE OF THE PROPERTIES ON KASSAB BOULEVARD ARE STILL IN JACKSON TOWNSHIP. NOT PROBABLY A 6 OR 8 OF THEM UP THE ROAD THERE. THAT'S IN CITY NOW, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE STILL IN THE TOWNSHIP. THAT'S I'M IN THE CITY. AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S TWO OTHER HERE IN THE GROVE CITY THAT'S GOT THE SAME TYPE OF FENCE OR LAYOUT OF THE FENCE. DO YOU KNOW IF THE OTHER ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS ARE IN GROVE CITY, OR ARE THEY IN JACKSON TOWNSHIP? EITHER ONE OF YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. WELL, HERE'S TWO LOSSES IN GROVE CITY AND THE HOUSE BESIDE HIM THAT FACES HAHN ROAD. THOSE TWO ARE IN GROVE CITY. I'M IN GROVE CITY, AND THE NEIGHBOR NEXT TO ME IS IN GROVE CITY. AND AS FAR AS THE OHIO BELL BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN GROVE CITY OR NOT. OKAY. IT'S BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE IN A MAJORITY OR ALMOST ALL THE PROPERTIES ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY. RIGHT? OKAY. DID YOU KNOW. NO. YEAH. SO ABOUT 80, I THINK IT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT. ABOUT 80 TO 85% OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE NOT IN THE CITY. SO THEY ARE UNIQUE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WHOLE AREA IS UNIQUE FROM WHAT WAS JUST TESTIFIED TO IT IS. YES. AND DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER NEIGHBORS BESIDES THE GENTLEMAN HERE APPROACH US ABOUT WHAT'S BEING DONE? WE DID NOT. OKAY, OKAY. THERE'S EITHER OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE A QUESTION OR CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE MOTION? OR DO YOU WANT TO STILL MAKE A STATEMENT OF SOME TYPE EITHER? OH, JUST THAT WHEN I ERECTED THE FENCE THAT THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAIN THINGS I LOOKED AT WAS HIS POINT OF VIEW. RIGHT WHEN I BUILT THE. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. YEAH. AND BESIDES THAT, HIS NEIGHBOR, WHICH STILL BUTTS UP AGAINST MY PROPERTY, THE OTHER NEIGHBOR, HE'S GOT A. FENCE, TWO IN HIS BACKYARD THAT GOES FROM SIDE TO SIDE. SO IT'S NOT IT'S. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M HAPPY WITH THEM. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR BRANDT. CAN I POINT OUT THAT I DID MAKE A MISTAKE ON THE SETBACK ON THE FENCE? SO MR. JOHNSON CLAIMS THAT THE FENCE IS ACTUALLY AT 28FT OF THE 30. SO IT'S ONLY A 28 FOOT ENCROACHMENT, NOT A 30 FOOT ENCROACHMENT. OKAY, SO IT LEAVES A TWO FOOT SETBACK. SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO CHANGE THE MOTION. SO I NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK BY APPROXIMATELY 28FT. RIGHT. FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF TWO FEET. INSTEAD OF ZERO. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'LL BE READY IN JUST A SECOND. OKAY. I [00:25:06] WILL THEN MAKE THE MOTION ON THE REQUEST OF ROBERT JOHNSON FOR A VARIANCE. I DON'T SEE THE SECTION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR VARIANCE. YOU'RE. WHERE IS IT? IT'S ON THAT RIGHT THERE. I'M SORRY, DID I SCREW I SCREWED? I THINK IT'S OKAY. TO GRANT A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1137.05 TO THE PROPERTY AT 4521 HAHN ROAD, PARCEL NUMBER 040 HYPHEN 006924/040006925. TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK BY APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET, FOR A TOTAL 28FT, FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF TWO FEET ON CASA BOULEVARD WITH FIVE FOOT TALL KENTUCKY HORSE FENCE FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF ZERO FEET. DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION TO ALSO BACK UP TWO FEET? TWO FEET? YEAH, I THOUGHT I SAID TWO FEET, BUT IF I DIDN'T. MR. BRANDT. YES. MR. ANDREWS YES. MR. HAHN YES, IF I DIDN'T, I SCREWED UP. SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE TO READ THE MAKE A STATEMENT. I JUST SAY THANKS. THAT'S IT. SURE. I GOT ANOTHER STATEMENT. OKAY, I NEED TO I HAVE TO READ THIS STATEMENT EVERY 21 DAYS. LEGAL COUNSEL ADVISED ME OF THIS LAST MONTH. SO AGAIN, THE BOARD HAS GRANTED YOUR VARIANCE REQUEST WITHIN CERTAIN CONDITIONS. THE BOARD'S DECISION, HOWEVER, IS NOT FINAL OR EFFECTIVE UNTIL 21 DAYS FROM TODAY. YOU, ANY AGGRIEVED PERSON, PERSON OR ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL MAY APPEAL THE BOARD'S DECISION. WITHIN THOSE 21 DAYS YOU HAVE AND YOU AREN'T GOING TO TAKE ANY ACTION ANYWAY, SO I WON'T READ THE NEXT SENTENCE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BUILT. BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO WAIT TO DO ANYTHING. IF SUCH AN APPEAL IS TAKEN WITHIN THAT PERIOD, THEN THE APPEAL PAUSES. THE BOARD'S DECISION TO GRANT YOUR VARIANCE REQUEST. COUNSEL WILL HEAR THE APPEAL AT ITS NEXT REGULAR MEETING AND REACH A FINAL DECISION. AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL RECEIVE WRITTEN NOTICE OF ANY SUCH APPEAL WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF WHEN THE CLERK OF COUNCIL RECEIVES THIS. NOW SOMEONE COULD APPEAL AND THAT WOULD MEAN THEN PROBABLY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THE FENCE. I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE CASE. AND IT. PEOPLE, A NEIGHBOR CAN APPEAL IT. GOTCHA. IT'D HAVE TO BE A NEIGHBOR TO APPEAL MY FENCE. BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A NEIGHBOR CAN BE ANYONE IN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY. ANY RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF GROVE CITY, ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO MAKE THE APPEAL. IF THERE IS ANY APPEAL, I UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF WILL CONTACT YOU AND WORK THROUGH ANY NEXT STEPS. OKAY, THANKS. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NOW. MAYBE I READ TOO MUCH, BUT THAT'S WHAT WAS GIVEN TO ME BY I ACTUALLY HIS BOSS, I THINK, DID THE REQUEST. OKAY. SO YOU THE APPEALS GRANTED. AND SINCE YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, ALL YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IS IF SOMEONE WERE TO APPEAL. SO FEEL FREE TO GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THE SAME FOR YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU BOTH FOR COMING. OKAY. THE SIXTH THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS TO HEAR THE APPEAL OF CARL RAY JUSTICE, PROPERTY OWNER AT 2189 PRESLEY DRIVE, PARCEL NUMBER 040005747 FOR A VARIANCE TO 1137 TO SECTION 11, 37.05 TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ON A CORNER LOT FACING GOODMAN STREET BY TEN FEET BY REPLACING AN EXISTING SIX FOOT WOODEN PRIVACY FENCE WITH A SIX FOOT VINYL PRIVACY FENCE FOR A TOTAL FRONT SETBACK OF 20FT. SO IF MR. JUSTICE WILL COME AND TESTIFY, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. YEAH. SO WE HAD INTENDED TO SIMPLY REPLACE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF OF THE [00:30:07] PRIVACY FENCE WITH A VINYL, UPGRADING IT, UPGRADING THE LOOK, UPGRADING THE MATERIALS. AND UNBEKNOWNST TO US, THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD NOT PERMITTED THE EXISTING FENCE. AND SO HERE WE ARE LOOKING TO APPEAL AND AND OBTAIN THAT SETBACK VARIANCE. IF WE WERE TO MOVE IN THE FENCE LINE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME MAJOR MOVEMENT. THE HARDSCAPE, THE STONE PATHWAY WOULD HAVE TO BE DUG UP, WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED OR MOVED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. IT WOULD ALSO NEARLY TOUCH SOME OF THE MAJOR POOL MECHANICALS THAT WE HAVE SET UP IN THE BACKYARD. I SHOULD SAY, TOO, THAT THE FENCE LINE. BORDERS OR LINES UP WITH OUR THIRD CAR PAD THERE AS WELL, AND MOVING IT IN WOULD CAUSE A STRANGE LITTLE OVERLAP THERE WITH THE PAD. YEAH. DO EITHER OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE CODE. 113705 THE VARIANCE. ARE WE GRANTING THE VARIANCE JUST FOR THE SETBACK OR IS IT MATERIAL AS WELL. IT IS. WELL ACTUALLY FOR BOTH. SO THE SIX FOOT TALL FENCE AND THE SETBACK. YEAH. YEAH. THE FENCE EXCEEDS WHAT IS ALLOWED BY THE CODE AND THE TYPE OF MATERIAL I THINK EXCEEDS. BUT THEY'RE BOTH UNDER THAT SECTION. SO I JUST USED THEM IN THAT SECTION. YEAH. BUT YOU'RE JUST REPLACING YOU'RE TEARING OUT THE OLD AND THE NEW WOULD GO IN THE SAME SPOT. EXACTLY. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. FOR THE NEIGHBORS CONTACTED AND DID ANY OF THEM CONTACT US AS TO WHETHER THEY'RE IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED? WE DID CONTACT THE NEIGHBORS AND WE DID NOT HEAR FROM ANYONE. OKAY. AND THERE'S NO ONE HERE TONIGHT THAT I KNOW OF THAT'S HERE TO SPEAK ON IT EITHER. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, THEN I'LL PROCEED TO MAKE THE MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE GRANT A VARIANCE TO THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2189 PRESLEY DRIVE. PARCEL NUMBER 04000574547 FOR A VARIANCE TO 1137.05 TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ON A CORNER LOT FACING GOODMAN STREET BY TEN FEET BY REPLACING AN EXISTING SIX FOOT WOODEN PRIVACY FENCE WITH A SIX FOOT VINYL PRIVACY FENCE FOR A TOTAL FRONT SETBACK OF 20FT. MR. CHAIR, THERE ARE ALSO CONDITIONS THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED. OH YEAH. ARE YOU INTENDING TO INCLUDE REMINDING ME OF THAT? I HAVE TO GO AND GET THOSE. I HAVE BACK HERE. OKAY. OKAY. ALSO IN THE MOTION, YOU HAVE TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 12 MONTHS AND YOU HAVE TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN EVERGREEN SHRUBS, A MINIMUM OF 36FT INCHES TALL AT TIMES OF PLANNING AND FIVE FEET APART ON THE CENTER, ALONG THE SECTION OF FENCES FACING GOODWIN STREET. YEAH. ARE YOU WERE YOU AWARE OF THAT? OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION. SO DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. WILL THE SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL, MR. BRANDT? YES. MR. ANDREWS. YES. MR. HORN. YES. OKAY. AGAIN, I HAVE TO AGAIN. I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO. I WORK FOR THE STATE. I GET IT, OKAY. THE BOARD HAS GRANTED YOUR VARIANCE REQUEST WITH CERTAIN CONDITIONS. THE BOARD'S DECISION, HOWEVER, IS NOT FINAL OR EFFECTIVE UNTIL 21 DAYS FROM TODAY. YOU, ANY AGGRIEVED PERSON OR ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL MAY APPEAL THE BOARD'S DECISION. WITHIN THOSE 21 DAYS. YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ACT UNTIL THIS PERIOD ENDS. IF SUCH AN APPEAL IS TAKEN WITHIN THAT PERIOD, THEN THE APPEAL PAUSES. THE BOARD'S DECISION TO GRANT YOUR VARIANCE REQUEST. COUNCIL WILL HEAR THE APPEAL AT ITS NEXT REGULAR MEETING AND REACH A [00:35:05] FINAL DECISION AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN YOU WILL RECEIVE WRITTEN NOTICE OF ANY SUCH APPEAL WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF WHEN THE CLERK OF COUNCIL RECEIVES IT. SO THE VARIANCE IS GRANTED. YOU HAVE TO WAIT 21 DAYS BEFORE YOU CAN DO ANY CONSTRUCTION AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO LEAVE. CAN I ALSO SAY THAT LAURA WAS SO VERY HELPFUL IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS? I COULD NOT HAVE SURVIVED THIS WITHOUT HER. SO THANK YOU. I CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT HER. OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING. OKAY. AND THEN THE FINAL APPEAL IS TO HEAR THE APPEAL OF JOHN DECK REPRESENTING MANNHEIM, MANNHEIM, OHIO, FOR 3757 JACKSON PIKE, PARCEL NUMBER 040 HYPHEN 017898. OWNED BY CRL LEASING FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1137.11 TO ALLOW A GRAVEL LOT FOR THE PARKING SLOT. SLASH STORAGE OF OPERABLE MOTOR VEHICLES RELATED TO THE ADJACENT AUCTION FACILITY FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS. GOOD EVENING. I'M JOHN DECK, MADAM, OHIO. OKAY, CORRECT. WE ARE SEEKING TO A VARIANCE TO 1137.11 TO ALLOW US TO USE GRAVEL AS THE PRIMARY ROAD SURFACE AS OPPOSED TO PAVEMENT. AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NEGOTIATING A FIVE YEAR LEASE. WE'RE FINANCING ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LEASE, TO THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS FOUR BUILDINGS ON IT. THEY'RE ALL. VACANT IN VARIOUS STATES OF DISREPAIR. THERE'S A BARN THAT'S READY TO FALL OVER. THERE'S A COUPLE OF OLD GARAGES. THERE'S A HOUSE THAT THE ROOF'S COMING OFF OF. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN LIVED IN OR USED FOR MANY YEARS. AND SO WE WILL PROFESSIONALLY REMOVE THOSE PROPERTIES. AND THEN OF COURSE, FENCE IN DEVELOP, PUT A BERM ON THE ROAD ON, ON ROUTE 104. THAT'S THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY. WE'LL USE A SIX FOOT LANDSCAPE BERM. THERE'LL BE NO ACCESS EXIT OR ENTRANCE THROUGH 104. ALL THE VEHICLES THAT WILL BE USED TO BE PARKED ON THIS PROPERTY. THERE'S THE THE HOME AND THE BARN BEHIND IT, AND THERE'S A COUPLE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK THAT WILL BE REMOVED THAT I SPOKE OF, BUT THERE'LL BE A BERM THERE. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS PROPERTY EXCEPT FROM OUR CURRENT ENTRANCE AND EXIT THAT THAT IS SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY ON ROUTE 104. YEAH. OUR INTENTION IS TO LEASE THE PROPERTY BEYOND FIVE YEARS. AND AT THAT POINT WE WILL LOOK TO PAVE THE PROPERTY LONG TERM. OKAY. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS IS GOING TO BE PUT IN THE MOTION IS THAT WE'RE ONLY WAIVING THIS FOR THE MAXIMUM OF FIVE YEARS. I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO COME BACK AFTER, SINCE THE MOTION IS ONLY TO COVER FIVE YEARS, THAT YOU HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A VARIANCE AGAIN AT THE END OF THAT FIVE YEARS, IF YOU WISH TO DO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, PAVE THE PROPERTY. CORRECT? UNDERSTOOD. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON OF THE SECRETARY, WHO'S ALSO THE ZONING OFFICIAL. DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE PERMITS TO TEAR DOWN THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE LOT? THEY WILL GET DEMOLITION PERMITS, YES. OKAY. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THOSE. OKAY? YES. DO EITHER OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I JUST WAS GOING TO STATE ASK A QUESTION. READING THE NARRATIVE HERE. LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SITE LIGHTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. PUT IN A FENCE. IT SAYS SITE LIGHTING, SITE, MINING SITE, PARKING LOT, LIGHTING, LIGHTING. I'M SORRY, SITE LIGHTING. CORRECT. WELL, THE PLAN CALLS FOR FIVE LIGHT POLES THAT WILL BE CENTERED. THERE'S ALREADY ONE ON THE PROPERTY WILL EXTEND TO THE WEST FROM THAT POLE TO GIVE US VISIBILITY DOWNWARD. SO ALL OF THAT STUFF OF COURSE WOULD BE PERMITTED AS WELL. THE FENCE. YES. OKAY. YES. OKAY. THIS IS KIND OF OUR FIRST STEP TO SEE IF WE CAN GET RIGHT TO SEE IF YOU CAN GET TO THE NEXT STEP. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT. FINANCIAL INVESTMENT IN THE LEASE PIECE OF PROPERTY TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S USABLE FOR US. AND OUR REASON FOR NEEDING IT IS, YOU KNOW, OUR BUSINESS EBBS AND FLOWS AND WITH WITH VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE UP SPACE. SO WE'RE REALLY OUT OF SPACE ON [00:40:03] OUR CURRENT PROPERTY. AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ADJACENT TO OUR CURRENT PROPERTY. I HAVE SPOKEN TO JAMES HERLIHY, WHO IS OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, AND TOLD HIM EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN IS, AND HE WAS FULLY ON BOARD. SO I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT TOO. YEAH, WE WE ALWAYS ASK THE QUESTION OF THE SECRETARY. SHE'S HEARD FROM ONE OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS. OKAY. SO WE MR. BARROSO SAID THAT HE GOT A CALL FROM JOHN MORBITZER TODAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW JOHN, BUT I BELIEVE HE SAID THAT HE OWNS A PROPERTY ACROSS FROM THIS. BUT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, SO I'M NOT HE MUST HAVE GOTTEN A LETTER FROM US, AND HE JUST TOLD MR. BARROSO THAT HE WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE. AND THAT JUST CAME IN LIKE AT 430 TODAY. SO I'M SORRY I WASN'T ABLE TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IT SOONER, BUT HE IS SUPPORTIVE. OKAY. WELL, LAURA, THANKS FOR PUTTING THAT INTO THE RECORD. SURE. QUESTION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOT. IT'S FIVE ACRES, CORRECT. IS THERE BEEN ANY DESIGN FOR STORMWATER RUNOFF? SO YOU'RE TAKING A SOFT SURFACE AND MAKING IT A HARD SURFACE? CORRECT. WE HAVE CATCH BASINS, ONSITE DETENTION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THAT WILL ALL BE PART OF IF THE VARIANCE IS GRANTED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, PERMITTING AND WHATNOT. CORRECT. DO WE HAVE STANDARDS? DO WE KNOW CITY STANDARDS FOR GRAVEL PARKING LOTS? WE DO. AND I THINK IT WAS THE INTENT OF THIS VARIANCE AND GRAVEL NOT TO GO THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS WITH THE THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT, BUT TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE FOR THE TIME BEING. SO, MR. BOSCO, I THINK, CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION BETTER. SO I KNOW THAT YOU STATED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING GRADING TO SEE THAT THE THE ANY WATER THAT WOULD FLOW ON A GRAVEL LOT, WHICH WOULD BE LESS THAN A PAY PLOT, THAT THAT WOULD BE MANAGED APPROPRIATELY. SO I THINK THOSE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DISCUSSED WITH MR. BOSCO, HOW MUCH HE WANTS TO SEE FOR GRAVEL LOT. SO THAT HAPPENS AFTER US. WE ARE, WE ARE WE STILL HAVE APPROVALS TO GO THROUGH AS FAR AS MEETING OTHER CODE REQUIREMENTS. BUT HE WANTED WAS ASKING TO GET THIS PART COMPLETED FIRST BEFORE THEY INVESTED ANY MORE INTO THE PLANNING OF THE PROJECT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY. MOVE THAT. THE APPEAL OF JOHN DECK, REPRESENTING MANHEIM, OHIO, FOR 3757 JACKSON PIKE, PARCEL NUMBER 040 HYPHEN 017898. OWNED BY KRE LEASING. BE GRANTED A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1137.11 TO ALLOW A GRAVEL LOT FOR THE PARKING SLOT. STORAGE OF OPERABLE MOTOR VEHICLES RELATED TO THE ADJACENT AUCTION FACILITY FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS, AND ANOTHER PART OF THAT SHOULD BE THAT THE HARD SURFACES WAIVED FOR THE MAXIMUM PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS, BUT AFTER THAT, YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU WANT TO STAY MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. MR. BRANDT. YES. MR. ANDREWS. YES. MR. HAHN. YES. OKAY. I'M. UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO READ THIS AGAIN. MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN INTERRUPT YOU, I APOLOGIZE. IT HAS BEEN A LOT TO SAY THAT REPEATEDLY SINCE THIS APPLICANT HAS BEEN HERE AND HEARD IT AT LEAST THREE TIMES. YOU CAN OFFER THE APPLICANT A CHANCE TO WAIVE THE READING, AND WE CAN GO FORWARD FROM NOW ON. I'LL DO THAT. BUT THE REASON I WAS DOING WHAT I WAS DOING WAS BECAUSE OF THE STATEMENT THAT WAS SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF IT, WHICH GAVE ME THE IMPRESSION YOU SHOULD READ IT TO EVERYONE. BUT THEN IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE THIS WAIVED FOR MY READING IT TO YOU? SURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. 21 DAYS. OKAY. AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO WAIT UP TO 21 DAYS IF SOMEONE WISHES TO APPEAL THIS AFTER 21 DAYS, YOU FEEL FREE TO GO AHEAD WITH THE WORK AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE PROPER APP OR THE THE PROPER APPROVALS. APPROVALS? YEAH, SHE SAID IT. I'M SORRY. OKAY, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU. YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO A LITTLE MORE BUSINESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [00:45:03] AND I TOO WOULD LIKE TO THANK LAURA WALKING ME THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH PATIENCE. GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN. OKAY, THEN IF I CAN FIND [E. NEW BUSINESS] MY AGENDA, THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS DO WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? AND I THINK WE AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS. THAT IS WE HAVE APPARENTLY A REQUEST AND IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF WHEN THE STAFF REPORTS WERE SENT TO US, THAT WE MIGHT WISH TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL HEARING. LAURA HAS INDICATED TO ME THAT SHE IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO AGREE TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED BZA MEETING. HOWEVER. JUST SO THAT I HAVE YOUR INPUT, WHAT WERE YOU AVAILABLE THE WEEK OF THE EIGHTH? I'M AVAILABLE THE EIGHTH AND THE NINTH. OKAY, OKAY. AND I'M ALSO AVAILABLE THOSE DAYS PLUS THE OTHER THREE DAYS OF THE WEEK. OKAY. AND MR. HAHN, I'M LOOKING EIGHTH AND NINTH IS MONDAY AND TUESDAY. YEAH. I SHOULD BE UP. YEP. OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE JUST I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET NOTICES OUT IN A TIMELY FASHION SO THAT WE'VE MET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC POSTINGS AND SUCH. AND SO I'M TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THIS PERSON TO, TO GO ON THE 22ND, BECAUSE IT'S JUST WILL BE ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO AFTER THAT. SO I'LL LET YOU KNOW. BUT THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW ABOUT THE EIGHTH AND THE NINTH. AND LORI JUST LEFT. I WAS GOING TO INTRODUCE HER. SHE IS OUR NEW PERMANENT TECH NOW. LORI AND SHE CAME FROM SHE WORKED FOR A CONTRACTOR FOR YEARS AND SHE'S REALLY GOOD. SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HER. SHE, SHE WAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY BY STAFF TO, TO BE THE NEXT PERMIT TECH. SO SHE'S MY NEIGHBOR TOO. IS SHE YOUR NEIGHBOR? YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANKS. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE MEETING, WE STAND * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.