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THERE.[1) Call to order and roll call. ]
THIS MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER.UH, WE ALWAYS BEGIN OUR, UH, MEETING NOW WITH, UH, WELL, WE HAVE A ROLL CALL FIRST, AND THEN A MOMENT.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM OF, OF BUSINESS IS FIRST I HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
SO WE'LL ALL STAND AND, UH, IF YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE, FINE.
IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S FINE TOO.
I'M READY FOR THE PLEDGE OF LEGION, A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[3) Approve the minutes from the July 27 meeting of the Board of Zoning Appeals. ]
NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS THROUGH IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY 27TH MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.DO I HAVE, UH, A MOTION? I CAN SECOND THAT.
UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 27TH MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
WILL THE SECRETARY CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE? MR. BRANT? YES.
[4) Hear the appeal of Justin Crawford, representing the property owner Sarah Boiarski at 4773 Glencross Ct. (Parcel #040-008244) for a variance to Section 1135.10 (a): To exceed the maximum square footage allowed for an attached garage of 900sf by 218sf for a total garage space of 1,118sf by constructing a garage addition. ]
THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE FOURTH ITEM OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE HEAR THE APPEAL OF JUSTIN CRAWFORD, REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER SARAH LARKY AT 47 73 GRAND GLEN CROSS COURT PARCEL NUMBER 0 4 0 0 0 8 2 4 4 FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1135 POINT 10 A TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED FOR AN ATTACHED GARAGE OF 900 SQUARE FEET BY 218 SQUARE FEET FOR A TOTAL GARAGE SPACE OF 1,118 SQUARE FEET BY CONSTRUCTING A GARAGE ADDITION.SO, WE'LL TAKE TESTIMONY AND, UH, I, I GUESS MR. CRAWFORD, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, BE THE PERSON THAT MAKES THE PRESENTATION.
HAVE YOU ALL BEEN SWORN IN YET? OKAY.
THEN WE NEED TO HAVE YOU ALL STAND, ANYONE THAT'S TESTIFYING.
IF YOU'RE NOT TESTIFYING, YOU DON'T HAVE STAND.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT, AND THAT YOU'RE TESTIFYING OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES.
SO THIS IS OUR HOME, UM, UH, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSTRUCT A GARAGE TO THE RIGHT OF THE, UM, UH, FORWARD FACING.
UH, SO WE'VE CHECKED THE OFFSETS AND WE'VE DECIDED TO, UH, BASICALLY MAKE A GARAGE BIG ENOUGH TO PUT IN TWO CARS FRONT TO BACK.
SO I HAVE A, A 2001 CORVETTE, UM, AND A MOTORCYCLE.
AND THEN WE EACH HAVE OUR CARS.
WE ALSO HAVE A, UH, SON AND STEPSON WHO'S 16, WHO IS NOW DRIVING.
I'VE GROWN UP DOING, YOU KNOW, WORK ON MY OWN VEHICLES.
UM, SO, AND WE HAD MOVED IN TOGETHER A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
SO THEN JUST KIND OF WITH ALL OF OUR ITEMS OVER THE YEARS, AND THEN ALSO WANTING TO HAVE A, UM, A SPACE TO BE ABLE TO PUT, YOU KNOW, UM, A LIFT.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE BIG PREMISE, WAS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, A LIFT TO DO PERSONAL WORK ON MY OWN CAR.
UM, AND, UH, ALSO NOW HER TEENAGE SON'S CAR, IF HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO DO WORK ON THE CAR.
UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST TO KIND OF KEEP ITEMS OUT OF THE STREET.
SO WE'RE ON A COURT, UM, IT JUST, THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF PARKING.
UM, ANYTIME WE HAVE PEOPLE OVER THEN TOO, WE HAVE A POOL AND WE LIKE TO ENTERTAIN, UM, THEN IT, YOU KNOW, TENDS TO HAVE CARS, YOU KNOW, TAKING OVER THE COURT.
THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO POOLS ON THE COURT, SO IT KIND OF BECOMES JUST RUNNING OVER AND THEN EVEN SPILLING OUT INTO THE, ON ONGOING STREET.
UM, AND, UH, YEAH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE OVER THE ALLOTTED, UH, PERMISSIBLE GARAGE SPACE.
UM, ACTUALLY PART OF THE GARAGE IS GONNA BE A, UM, IT'S GONNA BE A FULL BATH, SO THERE'S GONNA BE A STANDING SHOWER AND A WASHING, UH, AREA AND A, AND A COMMODE.
SO THAT WAY WHEN WE DO HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY OVER THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY JUST GO AND UTILIZE THAT SPACE, UTILIZE THAT, INSTEAD OF WALKING INTO THE HOUSE WITH, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ALWAYS THE KIDS WITH COMPLETELY SOAKING BODIES.
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UH, MR. HANH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.I NOTICED THAT YOUR GARAGE DOOR IS A LOT HIGHER THAN THE OTHER ONES, SO, SO YOU FREE YOUR LIFT SO YOU CAN WORK ON YES.
I JUST WAS CURIOUS, SO ON, ON THIS VIEW.
SO, SO THE, WE WERE WORKING WITH, UH, THE, THE DESIGNERS, UM, AND THEY ACTUALLY, THEY, THEY STILL DON'T HAVE A, RIGHT, SO THE GARAGE DOOR IS, IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE LIKE ONE BLOCK LOWER, SO THAT WAY IT'LL BE MORE SYMMETRICAL ACROSS OH, THE FRONT.
UM, BUT, UH, AND THEN INSIDE WE JUST HAVE, THEY'RE LIKE GONNA BE VAULTED CEILINGS THAT WAY.
WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO GET LIKE, UH, MY CAR.
I'D LIKE TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M A BIG KID.
I'D LOVE TO GET MY CAR UP OFF THE GROUND OVER THE WINTERTIME AND THEN STILL BE ABLE TO PUT LIKE ANOTHER CAR UNDERNEATH OF IT AS WELL.
UH, MR. CRAWFORD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM, LAURA, OUR STAFF, UH, SECRETARY, UH, YOU SENT LETTERS TO THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS.
UH, DID YOU HEAR BACK FROM ANY OF THEM? WE DID NOT GET ANY RESPONSES FROM OUR LETTERS.
AND THERE'S NO ONE HERE THAT WISHES TO, UH, OFFER ANY TESTIMONY OTHER THAN OKAY.
UH, THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO GRANT THE APPEAL OF JUSTIN CRAWFORD REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER SARAH BKI, B BKI BKI OH B BKI, SORRY, FOR, UH, AT, UH, 47 73 GLEN CROSS COURT PARCEL NUMBER 0 4 0 0 0 8 2 4 4 FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1135 POINT 10 A TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED FOR AN ATTACHED GARAGE OF 900 SQUARE FEET BY 218 SQUARE FEET FOR A TOTAL GARAGE SPACE OF 1,118 SQUARE FEET BY CONSTRUCTING YOUR GARAGE ADDITION WITH THE STIPULATION THAT'S CONSTRUCTION BEGIN WITHIN 12 MONTHS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
WILL THE SECRETARY CALL THE ROLE MR. BRAT? YES.
UH, THE MOTION THEN CARRIES, UH, I HAVE TO, UH, INFORM YOU OF A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, UH, AND THIS ALSO APPLIES TO THE OTHER PARTY THAT'S HERE, SO I DON'T HAVE TO READ IT TWICE.
UM, THE BOARD'S DECISION ARE NOT FINAL OR EFFECTIVE UNTIL 21 DAYS FROM TODAY.
AN APPLICANT AGGRIEVED PERSON OR MEMBER OF COUNSEL MAY APPEAR APPEAL THE BOARD'S DECISION WITHIN THOSE 21 DAYS.
APPLICANTS HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ACT UNTIL THIS PERIOD ENDS.
IF SUCH AN APPEAL IS TAKEN WITHIN THAT PERIOD, THEN THE APPEAL PAUSES THE BOARD'S DECISION TO GRANT A VARIANCE REQUEST.
COUNSEL WILL HEAR THE APPEAL AT ITS NEXT REGULAR MEETING AND REACH A FINAL DECISION AND A PUBLIC HEARING.
APPLICANTS WILL RECEIVE WRITTEN NOTICE OF ANY SUCH APPEAL WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF WHEN THE CLERK OF COUNSEL RECEIVES IT.
YOU HAVE TO WAIT 21 DAYS, AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO BEGIN TO CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
AND YOU'RE FREE TO GO NOW IF YOU WISH.
[5) Hear the appeal of Alex Brennan, Peerless Fence representing Eugene Williams, the property owner at 2486 Quail Meadow Dr. (Parcel #040-008276) for a variance to Section 1137.08: To encroach the 30’ front setback along Hoover Rd. with a 6’ solid wood privacy fence by 30’, for a total setback of 0’. ]
THEN WE WILL, UM, MOVE ON TO THE, UH, NEXT ITEM.UH, THIS IS, UH, THE APPEAL OF ALEX BRENNAN, UH, OF PEERLESS FINCH, WHO'S REPRESENTING EUGENE WILLIAMS, THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 24 36 QUAIL MILL MEADOWS DRIVE, PARCEL NUMBER 0 4 0 0 0 8 2 7 6 FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION 1130 7.08 TO ENCROACH THE 30 FOOT FRONT SETBACK ALONG HOOVER ROAD WITH A SIX FOOT SOLID WOOD PRIVACY FENCE BY A 30 FOOT FOR BY 30 FEET FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF ZERO FEET WITH A STIPULATION THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGAN WITHIN 12 MONTHS.
SO CURRENTLY THERE IS A FOUR FOOT PICKET FENCE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE IT OVER THERE.
UM, WE WANT TO REPLACE IT WITH A SIX
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FOOT SOLID FENCE, UM, ALONG THE BACK AND THEN 21 FEET ON THAT SIDE SHOWING THERE.UM, IT WOULD BE CONNECTING TO THE NEIGHBORS ALREADY EXISTING SIX FOOT FENCE.
UM, AND YEAH, IT'S JUST, IT'S, THEY HAVE 30 FEET THAT IN THEIR YARD THAT THEY CAN'T BUILD ON.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE APPEAL IS FOR.
AND THEY JUST WANT SOME PRIVACY FROM HOOVER ROAD AND, YEAH.
UH, MR. HAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PICTURE'S UP THERE OR NOT, LAURA, BUT THIS HERE IS YOUR EXISTING PICKET THAT, THAT THAT'S YOUR EXISTING FENCE, CORRECT? YES.
UM, ARE YOU GUYS THE ORIGINAL, DID YOU GUYS PUT THIS FENCE IN? YES.
UH, WE HAD A CONTRACTOR WHO, PARDON ME.
WOULD YOU ALL MIND GOING UP THERE JUST TO HAVE IT ON RECORD IF YOU'RE SPEAKING? YEAH.
I'M WITH NIA MOORE WILLIAMS. UM, WE HAD THE FENCE BILL TWO YEARS AFTER WE MOVED INTO THE HOUSE.
WE WERE ORIGINAL, OUR ORIGINAL OWNERS, UM, WE HIRED A CONTRACTOR.
HE SUPPOSEDLY HAD GOTTEN A, UH, PERMIT.
TURNS OUT AS WE FOUND THIS SUMMER, HE DID NOT.
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE PROPERTY NUMBER THREE TO THE NORTH OF YOU.
UH, OUR NEW NEIGHBORS PROPERTY, NUMBER ONE, HAD A FENCE ERECTED.
THEY TOOK OUT PART OF OUR FENCE AND IT WAS PROVED THAT THEY COULD PUT UP A SIX FOOT FENCE TO, UM, REPLACE OUR FOUR FOOT FENCE.
SO WE JUST WANT, YOU CAN SEE OUR CURRENT FENCE DILAPIDATED, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE IT WITH A HIGHER FENCE FOR PRIVACY.
PLUS, IF IT WERE SHORTENED, WE, WE WOULD LOSE, UH, ACCESS TO A LARGE PART OF OUR YARD.
UH, IT WOULD CAUSE UNDUE HARDSHIP 'CAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK, WALK UP B BARK AND UP HOOVER TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY WE'RE BLOCKED IN.
AND IT DOES NOT, IT WOULD NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THE CURRENT AESTHETICS.
I'M AN ART TEACHER,
I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, FROM, UH, SOME INFORMATION THAT WE WERE SENT.
UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THE NEIGHBOR HAS, UH, A SIX FOOT FENCE, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT ALONG THE HOOVER ROAD.
UH, IT'S ACTUALLY ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN YOU AND THEM, AND IT'S REALLY WHERE THEIR HOUSE IS LOCATED.
AND IT APPEARS THAT IT'S, UH, NOT A VERY LARGE SECTION OF FENCE.
I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT, BUT, UM, AND, UH, DO YOU KNOW, WHEN WERE YOU LIVING THERE? WHENEVER THEY ERECTED THAT SIX FOOT FENCE? WHICH, WHICH ONE? THE, UH, NO, THE ONE THAT THEY ERECTED.
WE'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR LIKE 28 YEARS.
AS LONG AS THE HOUSE EXISTED? YES.
SO YOU WERE LIVING THERE THEN? YES.
AND I THINK THEY, I HAVE, I HAVE, THEY, THEY BUILD THAT FENCE ON OUR PROPERTY,
OH, IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY? YES.
'CAUSE THEY REPLACE THAT FENCE WITH A SIX FOOT FENCE, THAT SMALL SECTION.
WELL, UH, I, I NEED TO ASK THE STAFF A QUESTION THEN.
UH, DO EITHER OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. ANDREWS? NOT AT THE MOMENT, NO.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S A SIX FOOT FENCE, JOHN, THERE'S A SIX FOOT FENCE TO THE NORTH OF THEM THAT GOES UP OVER THE HUMP.
THE, THE LITTLE HILL, THE EASEMENT.
AND THAT'S A SIX FOOT, AND IT ALSO GOES PARALLEL ALONG HOOVER ROAD, CORRECT? YES.
WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVER A PERMIT FOR THAT AS WELL.
THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, I HAD ASKED WHEN I CAME IN AND I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS, UH, BSO, HE SAID THERE WAS A PERMIT FOR THAT ONE.
NO, HE'S THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
THAT WAS MY QUE I JUST, I JUST WAS CURIOUS OF IF THAT WAS PERMITTED, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TYPICALLY THAT WE, WE WOULD GO TO ZERO AS FAR AS, UM, THE EASEMENT AND OVER THE EASEMENT AND SIX FOOT ALONG THERE.
THAT'S WHY I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IF THAT WAS EVER PERMITTED.
CAN I ASK YOU WHICH PROPERTY YOU'RE SPEAKING AT RIGHT NOW? TO, TO THE NORTH OF THEM.
THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THEM.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR HOUSE, TO THE HOUSE TO THE RIGHT, CORRECT? MM-HMM
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SO THERE MAY BE A SIX FOOT FENCE THERE, BUT WE FOUND NO PERMITS.
UM, THERE IS, WELL, THERE IS ONE PERMIT TO THE SOUTH, RIGHT.
WHICH IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S ON THE CORNER OF BIRCH BARK TRAIL.
AND THAT, UM, PERMIT WAS ISSUED TO ALLOW SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE THAT COMES STRAIGHT BACK FROM THE REAR OF THE HOUSE.
IT DOES NOT EXTEND ANYWHERE INTO THE SETBACK.
OF COURSE, THAT PROPERTY'S LAID OUT DIFFERENTLY.
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO BIRCH PARK TRAIL.
AND SO THAT IS THEIR REAR YARD.
AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN THIS PICTURE.
AND AS FAR AS THE, IF THERE'S A FENCE TO THE NORTH, THEN THAT WOULD BE A CODE VIOLATION AND WE WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.
JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S ACTUALLY SIX FOOT ON BOTH SIDES OF YOUR PROPERTY.
THE ONE TO THE NORTH THAT GOES UP OVER THE LITTLE HILL WITH EASEMENT.
I'M ASSUMING YOU WANT TO TRY TO GO BACK AND TIE INTO THAT CORNER.
NO, I JUST WANT TO REPLACE OUR CURRENT FENCE.
YOU JUST WANNA REPLACE IN THE SAME LOCATION IT IS.
I JUST HAD TO GET IT STRAIGHT IN MY HEAD.
ARE THERE ACTUALLY TWO SIX FOOT FENCES AND THERE'S ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY? UH, EXCEPT FOR THAT PART, THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL FENCE, WHICH IS FOUR FEET.
THE FENCE THAT WAS JUST BUILT IN HOUSE, UH, PROPERTY NUMBER ONE.
THEY REPLACED PART OF OUR FOUR FOOT FENCE WITH A SIX FOOT FENCE.
OURS FIRST FACES, UH, QUAIL MEADOW DRIVE, AND THE REAR IS HOOVER ROAD.
SO, YEAH, JOHN, THIS IS THE HOUSE TO THE SOUTH AND THEY HAVE THIS LITTLE SIX FOOT HERE.
SO THE PICTURE, WE'RE LOOKING ONE TO THE NORTH AND THEY HAVE A SIX FOOT OVER HERE.
DO YOU MIND GOING BACK ONE, PLEASE? THAT'S WHAT I WAS, IT GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE ALL YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE PHOTO WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT HAD THE TWO FENCES.
SO THEN THIS PHOTO HERE, YOUR PICKET, THAT'S YOUR PICKET FENCE? YES.
IT'S GOING TOWARDS HOOVER ROAD.
AND THEN IT TURNS PARALLEL TO HOOVER ROAD.
AND THIS IS YOUR BACK CORNER? YES.
AND THEN IN THIS BOTTOM PICTURE TO THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT HAS A SIX FOOT FENCE.
AND IT GOES BEYOND OUR FENCE GOES PA CLOSER TO HOOVER? YES.
AND YOU JUST, YOUR ASK IS TO REPLACE THIS PICKET FENCE, SAME LOCATION, JUST SIX FOOT? YES.
UH, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING THOUGH IS THAT NEITHER OF THE SIX FEET FENCES ARE LOCATED ON HOOVER ROAD.
NOW ONES THAT LONG RUN BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBOR ON, ON EACH SIDE.
IS THAT CORRECT, LAURA? NOW, THE REAR OF THAT, OF PROPERTY NUMBER THREE, THEY DO HAVE A SIX FOOT FENCE, UH, ALONG HOOVER ROAD.
SO I DID NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
I DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THERE IS A SIX FOOT FENCE AT THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
I TRIED CONTACTING THE CONTRACTOR A NUMBER OF TIMES TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WAS EXISTING, BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO GET THAT BEFORE THE MEETING.
BUT IF MR. HAN SAYS THERE'S A FENCE THERE, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH OF THEM, BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT HAVE PERMITTED THAT FENCE.
AND TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS A PERMIT FOR A FENCE THAT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY THAT FRONTS ON BIRCH BARK, WHICH IS THE CORNER PROPERTY.
AND THAT IS PERMITTED AND IT IS SIX FOOT.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS PICTURE HERE.
SO, BUT THERE IS A SIX FOOT FENCE ALONG HOOVER ROAD, A PART OF, OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHAT MR. ALONG HOOVER ROAD.
AND IT, WHAT MR. HAN SAYS RUN THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT PERSON'S PROPERTY.
IT APPEARS TO, IT APPEARS TO, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN MM-HMM
BUT SEE, THAT WAS DONE WELL WITH NO PERMIT AND NO APPROVAL.
THAT WAS DONE BEFORE THAT NEIGHBOR MOVED IN.
IF WE HAVE NO MORE, UM, QUESTIONS OF YOU, I WOULD LIKE LAURA TO COME UP AND ANSWER QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE PROPERTY BECAUSE, UH, BASICALLY, UH, THE CITY OPPOSES YOUR REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE.
AND THEY SAY, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT ALONG HOOVER ROAD, THERE'S NO AUTHORIZATION FOR A SIX FOOT FENCE.
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ONLY FOR FOUR FOOT FENCES.THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
I JUST WANNA SAY, SO I'D LIKE LAURA TO TESTIFY TO THAT.
THERE IS NO AUTHORIZATION FOR A FOUR FOOT FENCE EITHER.
SO NO FENCES ARE PERMITTED IN THE 30 FOOT SETBACK.
HOWEVER, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THEY BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A FOUR FOOT FENCE TO REPLACE THE OLD FOUR FOOT FENCE THAT THEY HAVE WITH A NEW FOUR FOOT PICKET FENCE, WHICH IS MOSTLY DECORATIVE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE IMPACT OF A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE AND WOULD NOT, WOULDN'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT THEY'RE BEING AUTHORIZED, UH, IS THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY MOVE THE, UM, WHERE THE FENCE IS LOCATED BACK, UH, SO THAT THERE'S ZERO.
SO THE OTHER OPTION THAT WE, WE PUT INTO THE STAFF REPORT WAS JUST TO REMIND THEM THAT THEY COULD GET A PERMIT FOR A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE AS LONG AS THEY DIDN'T GET INTO THE 30 FOOT SETBACK.
SO THEY COULD GO BACK 22 FEET FROM THE REAR OF THEIR HOUSE ALONGSIDE AND BEHIND THEIR PATIO WITH A SIX FOOT TALL, SOLID PRIVACY FENCE.
IF THEY WANNA HAVE THAT PRIVACY BACK THERE, THEY'RE PERFECTLY, UM, PERMITTED TO DO SO WITH A PERMIT.
BUT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR APPLICATION IS THAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT THE, UH, 30 FOOT, UH, SETBACK TO BE, UH, DROPPED.
AND YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO GO RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE CITY.
UH, THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG HOOVER ROAD.
WE JUST WANNA ERECT THE FENCE WHERE A CURRENT FENCE IS LOCATED, NOT GO ANY FARTHER BACK INTO HOOVER ROAD.
YOU WANT THE SAME FOOTPRINT, YOU JUST WANNA SWITCH TO SIX FOOT? YES, CORRECT.
WHAT I, I DON'T, I DON'T FOLLOW THAT.
UH, WHAT, WHAT HER RECOMMENDATION WAS TO WAS TO COME, IT'S 22 FEET OFF THE HOUSE WHERE THAT YELLOW LINE IS AND PUT A SIX FOOT FENCE THERE, AND THAT WOULD LEAVE 30 FEET OF THEIR YARD OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT IN THIS DRAWING WHERE IT SAYS 70 FEET FROM THE GREEN LINE.
IS THAT WHERE THE FENCE IS NOW? YES.
SO THE NEIGHBOR FENCE IS FURTHER, IT'S CLOSER TO HOOVER FROM THE PHOTO I JUST LOOKED AT.
WHAT IS THAT LINE? WHAT DOES THAT LINE MEAN? IS THAT THE RIGHT, IS THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, THE GREEN ONE? YES.
THAT IS WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY MEETS THE PROPERTY LINE.
THERE'S ANOTHER 20 FEET BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE THAT IS THE HOOVER GREEN SPACE ALONG HOOVER ROAD.
AND IT HAS A LOT OF TREES AND SHRUBS AND EVERYTHING WHICH WAS PLANTED TO PROVIDE PRIVACY FOR THOSE REAR YARDS YEARS AGO.
SO THAT NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH IS WELL WITHIN THAT RIGHT OF WAY? I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THAT OTHER FENCE.
THEY MAY JUST HAVE GONE, I, I FOUND A STREET VIEW PHOTO AND IT'S, IT'S SUBSTANTIAL.
THEN, THEN THAT'S AN EASY ONE FOR US BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HAVE IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE A VARIANCE, SO, OKAY.
THEY'LL BE ASKED TO REMOVE IT.
SO YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED THEN IN ALL OF WHAT, UH, IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE CITY AS FAR AS KEEPING THE FOREFOOT, UH, UH, PICKET FENCE, BUT MOVING SO THAT YOU WOULD GAIN, UH, MORE USE OF PROPERTY BY HAVING IT MOVED OUT TO THE, UH, CITY PROPERTY LINE WHERE YOU AND THE CITY'S PROPERTIES A JOINT.
WE'RE ALREADY, THERE'S ALREADY A PICKET FENCE THERE.
WE JUST WANT TO PUT THE FENCE AND WE JUST WANT TO PUT A FENCE, REPLACE IT.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU WANNA REPLACE IT WITH A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FENCE.
WITH THE, AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WHAT, WHAT THE STAFF HAS PROPOSED, UH, AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS THAT YOU BE PERMITTED TO REPLACE THAT AND THAT IT BE BACK ON THE, UH, PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN, BETWEEN YOU AND THE, UH, CITY.
NOW THAT'S WHAT THEIR ALTERNATIVE IS.
THEY ARE OPPOSED, THE CITY IS OPPOSED THROUGH THE, UH, THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
THEY ARE OPPOSED TO US GRANTING YOU THE VARIANCE FOR A SIX FOOT FENCE.
HOWEVER, THEIR, THEIR ALTERNATIVE IS
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THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO PUT UP WHATEVER TYPE WELL, WHAT YOU'VE PROPOSED, UH, AS THE TYPE OF FENCE, BUT THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO MOVE IT BACK AND GAIN THE USE OF, UH, 30 FEET OF PROPERTY.IF I UNDERSTAND, MAYBE I'M INCORRECT IN MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT, WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE TO ME.
THEY WANT US TO PUT, UH, THE FENCE JUST BEYOND OUR SHED, WHICH YOU, YOU CAN'T
WHAT YOUR FENCE CURRENTLY IS, BUT A FOUR FOOT FENCE.
WE'LL DO THAT
SO REPLACE THE CURRENT FOOT LINE OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FENCE.
REPLACE THE CURRENT FENCE WITH A FOUR FOOT FENCE.
OPTION TWO IS IF YOU WANT YOUR PRIVACY AND YOU WANT SIX FOOT, YOU DON'T GET TO GO BACK THAT FAR.
YOU GOTTA BE, YOU GOTTA COME UP.
SO IF YOU WANT MORE OF YOUR YARD, YOU REPLACE YOUR FOUR FOOT FENCE.
THE, WITH JUST ANOTHER, A NEW FOUR FOOT FENCE.
IF YOU WANT YOUR PRIVACY, SIX FOOT FENCE WOULD HAVE TO COME MORE ON YOUR PROPERTY.
SO YOU'RE NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IF, IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY.
BUT UNDER THAT, DO THEY EVEN NEED TO HAVE A VARIANCE GRANTED BY US IF THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE THE FENCE BACK THE WAY YOU JUST DESCRIBED IT? OR IF WE DECIDED TO DO A FOUR FOOT FENCE, I'M SORRY.
OR IF WE DECIDED TO DO A FOUR FOOT FENCE.
WELL I, THE PROPOSAL THAT, THAT THE CITY IS RECOMMENDING, UH, THAT YOU'D ONLY BE PERMITTED TO HAVE A FOUR FOOT FENCE.
NOW, UH, MS. SCOTT GAVE A, A DIFFERENT, UH, OPTION THAT IS IF YOU MOVE THE FOUR WHERE YOUR CURRENT FOUR FOOT FENCE IS, YOU CAN MOVE IT BACK AND YOU CAN HAVE A SIX FOOT FENCE.
YOU MEAN CLOSER TO OUR HOUSE? YES.
BUT ONE WAY YOU GAIN, AND IT SOUNDS TO ME, AND MAYBE I'M INCORRECT IN MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT YOU GAIN THE USE OF MORE PROPERTY IF YOU MOVE IT OUT TO, UH, THE, WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS ALONG HOOVER ROAD, BUT THERE'S NO MOVING, IT'S ALREADY THERE.
OH, SO IT'S ALREADY, ALREADY THERE.
THEY JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE USING IT THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN.
SO YOU WERE, NOW I, I HAVE ANOTHER SCOTT, A QUESTION IN FOR MS. SCOTT.
SHOULD THEY HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO PERMIT THAT FENCE WHENEVER THAT FENCE WAS PUT ON THE PROPERTY LINE? SHOULD THEY HAVE BEEN PERMITTED TO HAVE THAT FENCE? THE, FOR EVEN THE FOREFOOT FENCE HERE? NO, THAT WOULD'VE REQUIRED A VARIANCE AS WELL.
SO IN REALITY, WHAT THE CITY IS OFFERING TO DO, EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST MAINTAINING WHAT YOU HAVE, THEY'RE GOING TO PERMIT YOU TO GET A VARIANCE THAT WOULD PERMIT YOU TO, TO BUILD ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
HOWEVER, THEIR OFFER IS THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A FOUR FOOT FENCE.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT? YES.
BECAUSE THAT'S SAME, YOU'RE SAYING THE SAME PLACE WE'RE JUST REPLACING.
BUT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY FOUR FEET.
MR. CHAIR, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO JUMP IN HERE JUST FOR A MOMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE? UH, THIS IS UNUSUAL.
I DON'T NORMALLY ASK FOLKS QUESTIONS, SO FORGIVE ME IF IT FEELS INTRUSIVE, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE AGREEING TO THE SAME THING AS WE'RE NEGOTIATING A, A POTENTIAL WAY FORWARD HERE.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED AND REVIEWED STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, ON THIS CASE? I TOLD WE HAVE THAT PICTURE.
OH, THAT WAS IS THIS, OH, THIS IS A, THAT WAS FROM THE, WHEN THEY PROVED THE GATE.
SORRY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
WAS THAT EVER PROVIDED? YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS BEING PROVIDED TO THEM, BUT I'M SORRY.
DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT? YEAH, I HAVE IT ON MY PHONE.
MAY I ASK IS WHAT, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE POTENTIALLY AGREEING TO THE SAME AS CONDITION NUMBER TWO AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH I CAN HAPPILY READ, OR YOU ALL CAN COME OVER AND LOOK AT IT IF IT'S HELPFUL WITH THE PAPER.
BUT YES, THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO.
UM, I WAS GONNA ASK IF IT COULD STILL BE SOLID OR IF IT HAD TO BE A PICKET, A SPACE PICKET.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY SAME PLACE WE HAVE OUR CURRENT FENCE, CORRECT? YEAH.
PICK FOUR FOOT FENCE OPEN, HAS TO BE OPEN.
NOW THE NEIGHBOR THAT, JUST THE NEIGHBOR THAT JUST BUILT THE NEW FENCE THAT TOOK OUT PART OF OUR OLD FENCE, UH, THEY HAVE A SIX FOOT FENCE.
SO THE, OUR CURRENT FENCE THERE IS AT FOUR.
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THE, THEY'RE TECHNICALLY IN THE BUILDING.THEY'RE WITHIN THEIR, YEAH, THEY'RE WITHIN THERE.
THEY, SO WHERE WE WOULD START PROPERTY LINE RIGHT ON THE BUILDING LINE.
NOW HOW NIPPY, NOW THEIR FENCE EXTENDS TO THE FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
WAS THAT, IS THAT, WAS THAT PART OF THEIR PERMIT? THEY, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO BUILD THEIR FENCE BEYOND, WELL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSE WOULD BE THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE, CORRECT? MM-HMM
SO THEY'RE, I KNOW IT'S CONFUSING HERE.
THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD ACROSS THEIR BACK OF THEIR HOME, THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY LINE, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE.
DO YOU SEE JUST THE WAY THE STREETS ARE, THE HOMES LAYOUT CORNER TO THE CORNER OF MY LANDSCAPING THERE GOES BACK TO THAT
'CAUSE THEY BUILD IT ON THE SIDE OF MY YARD.
SO, WELL ANYWAY,
COULD THE SIX FOOT FENCE, COULD A NEW SIX FOOT FENCE BE BUILT THAT EXTENDS TO, FROM THE SITE, LAND THE YELLOW LINE, AND THEN TRANSITION TO A FOUR FOOT FENCE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YARD? SO POSSESSION.
I I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE GETTING, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE GETTING SOMEWHERE WITH A QUESTION.
IT KIND OF FELT LIKE THAT'S WHERE IT WAS GOING.
WHAT WAS GOING, WHICH WOULD, FROM THIS PHOTO BE BEYOND THIS CORNER? MM-HMM
WELL, IF IT MAKE A TRANSITION SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TRANSITION DOWN.
UH, BECAUSE THAT STOCKADE FENCE THERE AND IT JUST DROPS OFF TO OUR FOURTH FENCE, COULD IT SLOPE DOWN SO IT MAKES A SMOOTHER TRANSITION? MR. ANDREWS, IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, UH, PHOTOGRAPH HERE, ANY SECTION OF FENCE THAT IS SIX FOOT TALL THAT EXTENDS BEYOND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS GONNA BE CLEARLY VISIBLE FROM WHEN YOU TURN INTO THE ENTRANCE ON BIRCH BARK TRAIL.
YOU, WHEN YOU TURN IN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK, 'CAUSE YOU CAN SEE THIS SECTION OF FOUR FOOT PICKET CLEARLY FROM THE CORNER.
SO IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE A, A WALL EXTENDED OUT TOWARDS HOOVER ROAD.
WELL, THEIR HOUSE IS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO TURN THE OTHER WAY ANYHOW, BUT I GUESS THEY HAD A VARIANCE TO TURN THE HOUSE THAT WAY.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO FACE, UM, QUA QUAIL MEADOW DRIVE.
FROM AN AESTHETIC POINT OF VIEW, AM I ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO THAT ON THIS COMMISSION? SURE.
I'LL GIVE YOU PERMISSION OF DESIRING TO TRANSITION FROM THE ONE FENCE TO THE OTHER FENCE.
'CAUSE IT IS AN ABRUPT CHANGE.
IF, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SWAPPING, LIKE FOR LIKE HERE, IT'S, IT'S ABRUPT MM-HMM
SO I, I DON'T KNOW THE MECHANISM TO TALK ABOUT THAT TRANSITION, BUT I WOULD, IF IT WERE MY HOUSE, I WOULD WANT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, TO THE EXTENT THAT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE BOARD'S POWERS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SUGGEST MODIFICATIONS, UH, TO AN APPROVAL AND VOTE ON THAT.
THAT CAN ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE HARDSHIP TO THE OWNER AS WELL.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IS ALWAYS TO GET A EXPERT OPINION FROM STAFF ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT PLAY OUT, BOTH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PRACTICALLY.
UH, BUT THE BOARD HAS THAT POWER AND, UH, ANY MODIFICATION OR DENIAL OR APPROVAL COULD BE APPEALED BY ANY PARTY, INCLUDING YOU ALL.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE A MODIFICATION THAT THEY VOTE AND APPROVE, UH, IS NOT WHAT YOU DESIRE AND YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL TO BE DIFFERENT.
IS IT ACCEPTABLE? MAKE A PROPOSAL TO GIVE THEM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISTANCE TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION? SAY IT'S ONE BAY OF THE FENCE TO GET FROM THE TALL FENCE TO THE SHORTER FENCE OR LIKE 1 1 8 FOOT SECTION WOULD BE WE, THAT, THAT WOULD WELL BE WITHIN THE BOARD'S POWER.
UH, IF THAT'S THE SAFE DECISION OR NOT, I CAN'T WEIGH IN.
BUT YOU HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO PROPOSE THAT IF WE PROPOSE THAT, DO THEY HAVE TO DO THAT? SORRY.
UH, CAN THEY DO LESS THAN THAT? NOT MORE THAN THAT.
LIKE, COULD THEY GO BACK AND REPLACE IT? LIKE FOR LIKE, IF THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANNA DO A TRANSITION? IF WE, IF WE MAKE A TRANSITION PART OF THIS LANGUAGE, DO THEY HAVE TO DO THAT? YOU, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO DO IT.
I WANT TO TRY TO PRESENT IT THIS WAY.
UM, IF YOU GIVE THEM A VARIANCE, THAT IS THE MAXIMUM WHAT THEY CAN DO IN THAT PROPERTY.
IF THEY CHOOSE TO RESTRICT WHAT THEY DO, EITHER IN HEIGHT OR IN PROXIMITY TO THE HOUSE THAT'S
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WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS.UH, BUT THEY HAVE UP TO THAT NEW MAXIMUM WITH WHICH TO WORK.
I LIKE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW THEM ONE FENCE BAY TO MAKE A TRANSITION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET FROM THE TALLER FENCE TO THEIR PROPOSED FOUR FOOT SHORTER FENCE.
UH, FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, I THINK I'M HEARING YOU SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE, THE PARADIGM OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO.
THAT YOU WOULD MODIFY STAFF RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO IN THIS LIMITED WAY, WHICH WAS TO ALLOW A ONE, UH, EIGHT FOOT FENCE BASE SECTION TO REDUCE FROM SIX FEET TO FOUR FEET.
AND IS THAT ON A PARTICULAR PART OF THE FENCE? IS THERE TWO LOCATIONS OR JUST ONE? I ONLY KNOW OF THE JUST ONE SOUTHERN ONE.
AND SO IT'S AT THE SOUTHERN UH, PORTION THERE? CORRECT.
THAT SHOULD GET A, UH, A VOTE BETWEEN THE THREE OF YOU IF THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR MOTION.
UM, BUT YOU COULD ALSO JUST AGREE TO IT AND SOMEONE MOVE ACCORDINGLY.
AND THAT FENCE WOULD BE THE SAME STYLE THAT AS FAR AS IT WOULD BE SOLID OR SEE THAT'S WHERE WE NO, IT'D BE, IT COULDN'T BE SOLID.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS THINKING YOU GUYS WERE THINKING IT WAS SOLID.
AND I AGREE WITH HIM AS FAR AS THE ABRUPT, SO IF YOU IT DOWN RIGHT? MM-HMM
UM, I, I I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
DO, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT TO SECOND MR. ANDREW'S MOTION? BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT IN THERE A LIMIT THE LENGTH OF THE TRANSITION.
SAID ONE SECTION, BUT THAT COULD BE, THAT'S OPEN FOR EIGHT FEET.
HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO TAKE THE PROPOSED MOTION DOWN, LAURA? WELL, AND COULD YOU READ IT BACK TO US SINCE WE HAVE IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE AN APPROVAL WITH MODIFICATIONS OF VARIANCE TO INSTALL A NEW CONTINUOUS FOUR FOOT TALL DECORATIVE PICKET FENCE, ENCROACHING THE 30 FOOT SETBACK ALONG HOOVER ROAD BY 30 FEET FOR A TOTAL SETBACK OF ZERO FEET.
UM, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THERE MAY BE A TRANSITION SECTION OF ONE BAY UP TO EIGHT FEET IN LENGTH FOR THAT TRANSITION AND TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 12 MONTHS FROM THE EXISTING FENCE.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE.
SO, UH, AND IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
SO CAN WE HAVE A RULE CALL? CAN I CLARIFY THAT THAT IS THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS THE EXISTING FENCE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
IS THAT THE SAME FOOTPRINT? MM-HMM
IN THE SAME LOCATION, THE SAME LOCATION, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO WORD IT.
I ALSO BRING UP SOMETHING TOO.
SO DOES ANYONE NEED DEMO MOTION READ AGAIN? I DO NOT.
SO WILL THE SECRETARY CALL THE RULE? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WAS MAKING, UM, THINKING THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THAT MAY GET LOOKED INTO FOR THE FENCE THAT IS SIX FOOT PRIVACY, UM, IT APPEARS TO BE NON PERMITTED.
SO IT, ONCE THAT IS ADDRESSED, YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER TRANSITION TO THE NORTH AS WELL, CORRECT? YES.
I GUESS WE CROSSED THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT, BUT THE CURRENT OWNERS BROUGHT, WE'VE BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.
THOSE, THE CURRENT OWNERS BOUGHT THE HOUSE WITH THAT FENCE ALREADY INSTALLED, CORRECT? YEAH.
AND, AND YEAH, THEY, THEY MAY NOT KNOW.
THAT'S ALL I WAS BRINGING TO READY FOR A ROLL CALL.
UH, THE STATEMENT THAT I READ EARLIER, UM, ABOUT THE 21 DAYS AND EVERYTHING, UM, APPLIES IN YOUR CASE TOO.
SO THE MOTION CARRIES, UH, HOPEFULLY HOW YOU'LL BE HAPPY WITH IT.
I AM VERY HAPPY EVEN THOUGH I HAD TAKE MY BASS DOWN BECAUSE I THOUGHT
I TOOK MY FLOWER BASS DOWN THIS SUMMER BECAUSE I THOUGHT WAS GONNA BE FIELD EARLY, BUT NO, I'M HAPPY.
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WELL THANK YOU.[6) New business. ]
ANY NEW BUSINESS? UM, WE DO HAVE ONE CASE FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING OR I ANTICIPATE HAVING ONE CASE FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.UH, THEN, UH, I MOVE, WE ADJOURN.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE DO THAT.
UM, TONIGHT WAS DIFFERENT, BUT A LOT OF OUR VARIANCES SEEM TO BE FENCES AND SIDE YARD SETBACKS OF CORNER LOTS AND OFTEN SO FAR EVERY TIME THEY'VE BEEN UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
IS THERE A MECHANISM TO HAVE STAFF APPROVAL OF THAT SORT OF VARIANCE AS OPPOSED TO HAVING BOARD APPROVAL? NOT PRESENTLY.
THERE ARE ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOMMEND TO STAFF THAT THERE IS A PERSISTENT CODE ISSUE THAT COULD BE PROPOSED TO COUNCIL FOR REVISION.
AND THE CITY GOES THROUGH THAT RELATIVELY FREQUENTLY.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS, UH, SOME OF THOSE THINGS KIND OF SWIRLING AROUND AND THERE'S AN INTENTION TO UPDATE THE ZONING AND CODE.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PROGRESSING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW AT WHAT PACE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY YOU TYPICALLY CHANGE THOSE KINDS OF SITUATIONS.
IF THERE'S A CONSISTENT ISSUE THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE GETTING TRIPPED UP BY THEN THAT MIGHT INDICATE THAT THE CODE DOESN'T SUIT, UH, USES AND DESIRES CURRENTLY.
IS THAT CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION? DO WE KNOW? I DO NOT KNOW.
MR. BOSO HAS SPOKEN OF IT RECENTLY.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANYTHING ACTIVELY DONE TO PRESENT A CODE CHANGE.
UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY STATEMENTS FROM EITHER STAFF OR FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? UH, IF NOT THEN UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION AGAIN TO ADJOURN.
CAN WE HAVE THE SECRETARY CALL THE ROLE? MR. BRANT? YES.