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EVERYONE TO PLANNING COMMISSION.[A. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]
IT'S ONE 30 AND WE'LL GET THE MEETING STARTED.I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ROLL CALL.
HERE, MS. WEINGER, CHAIR OYSTER.
AND BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR MOMENT OF PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO, UH, REMEMBER, UM, TWO LEADERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT PASSED LAST WEEK.
SO, UM, THOSE TWO WERE RON GABRIEL, WHO WAS THE CHIEF OF POLICE OF GROVE CITY FOR MANY YEARS, AND ALSO GARY LEISURE, WHO WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION FOR MANY YEARS.
HIS ROTARY PLAQUE IS ACTUALLY OUTSIDE ON THE BUILDING, UM, AND HE WAS A LEADER IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UM, AND JUST TWO WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
SO I DID JUST WANNA MENTION THEM.
UM, THEY WERE WONDERFUL LEADERS, FATHERS FRIENDS, AND I KNOW MANY OF US KNEW THEM VERY WELL.
AND, UM, SO ALTHOUGH WE'LL MISS THEM, I KNOW THAT WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT THEY WERE IN OUR LIVES FOR SO MANY YEARS.
SO, WITH THAT, IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYERS IN HONOR OF THEM, AND THEN WE'LL SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[C. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES – August 4, 2026 ]
COMMISSION HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE PRIOR MEETING'S MINUTES FROM AUGUST 4TH.IF THERE ARE NO DISCUSSION ITEMS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION CHAIR.
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN AND SUBMITTED.
AND JUST A FEW ITEMS, HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, UM, TODAY, UM, WE ASK THAT BECAUSE DUE TO THE NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, WE'RE ASKING THAT IF POSSIBLE THE APPLICANTS, UM, COULD HOLD THEIR PRESENTATION TO FIVE MINUTES.
UM, IF YOU NEED MORE, JUST ASK, BUT, UM, I, I, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT.
AND THEN FROM ANYONE FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE'D ALSO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT IF YOU COULD HOLD YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES JUST TO KEEP, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HEAR FROM EVERYONE, BUT WE ALSO WANNA RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME.
SO WITH THAT, UM, OH, AND I SHOULD MENTION THERE WILL BE A, A TIMER UP FRONT.
UM, WITH THAT I WILL SHARE WHAT I NORMALLY SHARE EVERY WEEK, AND THAT IS, IF YOU ARE THE APPLICANT AND IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, YOU JUST COME TO THE PODIUM, JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOUR NAME IS WRITTEN, UM, OR THAT YOU'VE ALREADY WRITTEN YOUR NAME, WHICH I HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE SHEETS IN FRONT OF ME.
CURRENTLY, IF YOU COULD JUST, UM, STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND IF YOU'RE THE APPLICANT, IT COULD BE YOUR HOME ADDRESS OR YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS.
AND THEN IF YOU'D WAIT FOR A MOMENT, THE CITY WILL THEN PROVIDE THE BACKGROUND AND READ SOME INFORMATION.
AND THEN WE'LL DO A SHORT, UM, COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH WHERE, UM, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
THE COMMUNITY MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, AND IF THOSE QUESTIONS CAN ALWAYS BE DIRECTED TO US AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THEN FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, KIND OF THE SAME THING WE'LL ASK AT THE END.
IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS, AND IF YOU'VE ALREADY WRITTEN YOUR NAME AND I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, GREAT.
IF NOT, THERE'S A PIECE OF PAPER UP THERE FOR YOU TO USE.
SO WITH THAT ONE MORE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM,
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IS MARLENE DRIVE HOTEL COMPLEX FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.AND WE'RE MOVING IT TO THIS FOUR SPOT IN THE AGENDA TO GO RIGHT UNDER THE MARLENE HOTEL COMPLEX.
OTHER ITEMS, AND THEN ALL ELSE IN THE AGENDA WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
OH, I SECOND CHAIR OYSTER? YES.
[1. APPLICATION: Marlane Drive Hotel Complex Lot Split 1 – Lot Split ]
GET STARTED WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE.MARLENE DRIVE HOTEL COMPLEX LOT SPLIT ONE.
I LIKE HOW THIS IS STARTING ALREADY.
I'VE BEEN MOVED UP
THIS APPLICATION IS TO SPLIT 0.2551 ACRES FROM 1.022 ACRE TRACTED ON MAR LANE DRIVE THE PARCEL OF ZONE ZC TWO.
AND THE SPLIT ACREAGE IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE, WHICH IS SHOWN TO INTEND THE FINAL LOT CONFIGURATION BASED ON OWNERSHIP AND PROPOSED NEW HOTELS.
FOLLOWING THE APPROVAL OF THE LOT SPLITS, THE OWNERS WILL NEED TO FINALIZE THE LOT SPLIT IN COMBINATION WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY TO ACHIEVE THE FINAL LOT CONFIGURATION AS SHOWN ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE LOT SPLIT AS SUBMITTED.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT UNDER THIS FIVE MINUTES, SO, ALL RIGHT.
QUESTIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION? NO, NOTHING.
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION CHAIR.
I'D LIKE A, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL ITEM ONE LOT SPLIT SECOND.
WE ARE ACTUALLY APPROVING, OH, APPROVAL.
[2. APPLICATION: Marlane Drive Hotel Complex Lot Split 2 – Lot Split ]
DRIVE HOTEL COMPLEX LOT SPLIT TWO.THIS APPLICATION IS TO SPLIT 0.0308 ACRES FROM A 1.33 ACRE TRACT AT 41 97 MAR LANE DRIVE.
THIS PARCEL IS ZONED C TWO AND THE SPLIT ACREAGE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE, WHICH SHOWS THE INTENDED CONFIGURATION OF THE HOTELS BASED ON OWNERSHIP.
FOLLOWING THE APPROVED LOT SPLIT, THE OWNER WILL NEED TO FINALIZE THE LOT SPLITS IN COMBINATION WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY TO ACHIEVE THE FINAL CONFIGURATION AS SHOWN ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE LOT SPLIT AS SUBMITTED.
ANYTHING FURTHER? NOTHING FURTHER.
QUESTIONS TO PLANNING, COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH MOTION CHAIR.
I MOVE, WE, UH, APPROVE, UH, APPLICATION NUMBER TWO, MAR LANE DRIVE.
[3. APPLICATION: Marlane Drive Hotel Complex Lot Split 3 – Lot Split ]
NUMBER THREE, MARLENE DRIVE HOTEL COMPLEX LOT.THIS APPLICATION IS TO SPLIT 0.5445 ACRES FROM A 1.3 ACRE TRACT AT 41 97 MAR LANE DRIVE.
THE PROPOSED PARCEL IS ZONE C TWO AND THE SPLIT ACREAGE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
FOLLOWING APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO FINALIZE THE SPLIT IN COMBINATION WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY TO ACHIEVE THE FINAL LOT CONFIGURATION AS SHOWN ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND AFTER REVIEWING CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE LOT SPLIT AS SUBMITTED.
QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
SEEING NONE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION CHAIR.
I MAKE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE MARLENE DRIVE HOTEL COMPLEX LOT SPLIT THREE.
[8. APPLICATION: Marlane Drive Hotel Complex – Final Development Plan ]
MARLENE DRIVE HOTEL COMPLEX.I'M GONNA MIX IT UP A LITTLE BIT HERE.
THIS APPLICATION IS FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A NEW HOTEL
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CONSTRUCTION BUILDING ADDITIONS AND PARKING LOT CONFIGURATION.THIS APPLICATION IS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE MARLAN DRIVE HOTEL COMPLEX AND IS IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE PRIOR LOT SPLITS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A, OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO CONSTRUCTION, NEW HOTELS, PARKING LOTS AND PARKING LOT RECONFIGURATION ON 6.1 ACRES ALONG MARLAN DRIVE RUM, FIELD DRIVE, AND GANTZ ROAD.
THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS DIVIDED INTO TWO PROJECTS.
A NEW HOTEL ENDS IN SUITES NORTH OF THE EXISTING COMFORT INN.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE COMFORT SUITES ADDING A TOWN PLACE SUITES, DUE TO THE CLOSE PROXIMITY AND COMMON USE OF THE SITE HAS BEEN REVIEWED AS ONE MASTER PLAN.
ADDITIONALLY, ACROSS ACCESS EASEMENT WILL BE REQUIRED AT THE EASTERN CURB CUT ON RUM FIELD DRIVE.
BASED ON THE PROPOSED LOT SPLIT BOUNDARIES.
THE PROPOSED APPROXIMATELY 61,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS LOCATED, SENT ESSENTIALLY ON THE SITE NORTH OF THE COMFORT INN.
ACCESS WILL BE FROM THE PROPOSED DRIVE ALONG THE NORTH OF THE SITE AND OFF OF THE EXISTING NORTHERN ACCESS POINT ON MAR LANE DRIVE.
THE PROPOSED HOTEL WILL HAVE 91 ROOMS, WHICH REQUIRE 91 PARKING SPACES, AND A HUNDRED PARKING SPACES ARE SHOWN ON THIS SITE.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING WILL REACH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 61 FEET, WHICH EXCEEDS THE PERMITTED HEIGHT OF 35 FEET PER THE C TWO DISTRICT, AND WILL REQUIRE A VER A, A VARIANCE TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
AS PROPOSED STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE TO THE HEIGHT AS IT IS LOCATED NEAR I 71 AND SPRINGTOWN ROAD.
AND ADDITIONALLY, IN 2017, THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS GRANTED A VARIANCE FOR THE COMFORT SUITES HOTEL LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED IN ENGINE SUITE SITE FOR CONSTRUCTION TO REACH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 58 FEET.
THE BUILDING WILL BE FINISHED IN A VARIETY OF MATERIALS, INCLUDING EFIS, BRICKS AND LARGE GLASS WINDOWS.
THE PROPOSED APPROXIMATELY 41,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS LOCATED ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE EXISTING COMFORT INN ALONG GANZ ROAD.
AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, THE COMFORT SUITES IS PROPOSED TO BE REBRANDED AS A SPRING HILL SUITES.
ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL BE VIA THE EXISTING DRIVE ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE, AND FROM THE PROPOSED SOUTHERN ACCESS POINT OFF RUM FIELD DRIVE, THE PROPOSED HOTEL WILL HAVE 162 ROOMS, WHICH REQUIRES 162 PARKING SPACES.
157 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED ON THIS PARCEL.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, NOTING THAT THE ENTIRE SITE HOTEL CAMPUS HAS THE EFFICIENT, THE SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES TO MEET THE ONE SPACE PER ROOM PER CODE.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING WILL REACH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 57 FEET, EIGHT INCHES, WHICH EXCEEDS THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET IN THE C TWO DISTRICT, BUT IS COVERED UNDER THE VARIANCE FROM 2017.
THE BUILDING WILL BE FINISHED IN A VARIETY OF MATERIALS INCLUDING EFIS, BRICK, GLASS WINDOWS.
A LANDSCAPING PLAN WAS SUBMITTED SHOWING THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING IN GENERAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING, PERIMETER PLANTINGS, PARKING LOT, LANDSCAPING, AND A WITH A VARIETY OF TREES AND SHRUBS.
GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING BOTH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED ADEQUATE LANDSCAPING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE REQUIRED REQUIREMENTS.
THOUGH REQUIRED LANDSCAPING, IN SOME INSTANCES IS PROPOSED TO BE RELOCATED, WHERE SPACE IS LIMITED TO WHERE SPACE IS AVAILABLE ON THE SITE.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING AND BELIEVES IT'S COMPLIMENTARY WITH THE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT OF THE HOTEL PROJECTS.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETS ALL GROVE CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
AND AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEV, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING DEVIATIONS AND STIPULATIONS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? I WILL AT THIS TIME.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS IT'S GROWN FROM ONE HOTEL TO HOUR, UH, COMPLEX, AND, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK WE'VE WORKED THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS FOR ACCESSIBILITY.
AND WE HAVE, UH, WE TAKE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THE, UH, THE TWO REQUIREMENTS AS NOTED ABOVE.
SO WE APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS.
QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE.
WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION CHAIR.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE APPLICATION NUMBER FOUR, THE MARLINE DRIVE
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HOTEL COMPLEX FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE TWO STIPULATIONS.MR. FARNSWORTH? YES, MR. ROACH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS, THIS IS MATTHEW WEBER SIGNING OFF.
I APPRECIATE, IN CASE YOU WEREN'T SURE WHO WAS UP HERE,
[4. APPLICATION: C5 South Columbus LLC – Rezoning ]
TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PREVIOUSLY, FOUR C FIVE SOUTH COLUMBUS, LLC REZONING.HELLO, UM, MY NAME'S, UH, ELIZABETH SIOR.
I'M 52 EAST GAY STREET, COLUMBUS, OHIO.
THIS IS CHRISTIAN GREENWELL, UM, FROM C FOUR FIVE INDUSTRIAL PARTNERS ON BEHALF OF C FIVE SOUTH COLUMBUS, LLC.
AND THE ADDRESS IS 7 4 7 BUTTERMILK PIKE, CRESTON SPRINGS, KENTUCKY, 4 1 0 1 7.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REZONE 49 ACRES OF AN 81.4 ACRE PARCEL AT 65 88 SEEDS ROAD FROM RA RURAL AGRICULTURAL TO IND ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THE SITE WAS ANNEXING THE GROVE CITY IN 1998 AND WAS ADDED TO THE CITY'S COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA IN AUGUST OF 2022.
THE GROVE CITY 2050 FUTURE LAND USE AND CHARACTER MAP DESIGNATE THE SITE AS FLEX EMPLOYMENT CENTER, WHICH IS CHARACTERIZED AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL STYLE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT INCLUDES MOSTLY LARGE FOOTPRINT BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE ADAPTED TO SUPPORT DIFFERENT USES.
THE SITE HAS ALSO PREVIOUSLY BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR NON RE RESIDENTIAL USES IN PAST JACKSON TOWNSHIP LAND USE PLANS.
MATERIAL STATE THE SIZE PROPOSED TO BE REZONED I AND D ONE FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING THREE SPECULATIVE WAREHOUSE FACILITIES.
HOWEVER, THIS APPLICATION DOES NOT EXAMINED ANY PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE, WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED AND EXAMINED THROUGH YOUR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
HOWEVER, MATERIALS ALSO NOTE THE SITE WILL BE DESIGNED TO KEEP TRUCK TRAFFIC WITHIN THE SITE BEFORE EXITING ON THE SEEDS ROAD.
AND THE CITY'S EXPECTATION IS THAT ANY FUTURE ACCESS BE RESTRICTED TO SEEDS ROAD ONLY WITH NO ACCESS TO ZUBER ROAD.
THE APPLICANT AND CITY HAVE ALSO HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS REGARDING TRAFFIC IMPACTS FROM POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE.
AND BASED ON OUR REVIEW OF THE SITE AS WELL AS STUDIES AND OTHER ONGOING EFFORTS RELATED TO THE CITY'S THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT PROJECTED TRAFFIC VOLUMES ON THE SURROUNDING ROADWAY NETWORK ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN WITHIN ACCEPTABLE LEVELS FOR THE EXISTING ROADWAYS.
HOWEVER, IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE CITY HAS PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE INTERSECTION OF SEEDS ROAD AND SOUTH MEADOWS DRIVE, WHICH WILL HELP TO IMPROVE EXISTING TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AND MAINTAIN TRAFFIC AS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS IN THE AREA.
A TRAFFIC ACCESS STUDY WILL BE REQUIRED TO EXAMINE THE PROPOSED SITE ACCESS POINTS TO ASSESS THE NEEDS FOR TURN LANE IMPROVEMENTS.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE RESULTS OF THIS STUDY ARE SPECIFIC TO THESE ACCESS POINTS, IT IS NOT REQUIRED UNTIL SUBMITTAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE NOTING THE PROPOSED ZONING ALIGNS WITH BOTH PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED LAND USES FOR THE SITE, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE LAND USE IDENTIFIED FOR THE AREA IN THE GROVE CITY 2050 COMMUNITY PLAN.
AFTER VIEWING CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING AS SUBMITTED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? YES, PLEASE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE OUR PRESENTATION THERE? PERFECT.
WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU, UM, TODAY.
DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST TELL YOU THE SLIDE? OKAY, GREAT.
UM, SO IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UM, SO AS DASH MENTIONED, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 49 AC ACRES AND IS, AND IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SEEDS ROAD, UH, NORTH OF ZEBRA ROAD.
UM, AND WE'RE PROPOSING A, LIKE A LOCKED SPLIT OF THE EXISTING PARCEL SLIDE PLEASE.
UH, THE SUBJECT PARCELS CURRENTLY FARMLAND AGAIN AND ZONED, UM, RA RURAL AGRICULTURE SLIDE PLEASE.
UM, AND IT C FIVE IS IN CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND WISHES TO REZONE IT TO IND ONE LIGHT INDUSTRY TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THREE SPECULATIVE WAREHOUSES.
UM, SO AGAIN, AS DASH MENTIONED, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS, UM, TO IND ONE IS SUPPORTED BY THE GROVE CITY 2050 LAND USE PLAN.
UM, SPECIFICALLY THIS PARCEL WAS DESIGNATED AS AN AREA OF CHANGE AS SHOWN IN ORANGE ON THIS MAP.
THERE'S A LITTLE STAR THERE WHERE THE PROPERTY IS, IF YOU CAN SEE IT.
UM, AND, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL, THIS DESIGNATION MEANS, UM, QUOTE, WHERE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IS EXPECTED TO BE DIFFERENT FROM THE EXISTING CHARACTER END QUOTE.
UM, IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UM, FURTHER, THE GROVE CITY LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS SITE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE AS A FLEX EMPLOYMENT CENTER, WHERE THE BUILDING FORMS ARE SUGGESTED TO BE
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LARGE TO VERY LARGE FOOTPRINT STRUCTURES, OFFERING FLEXIBLE SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE MARKET DEMANDS FOR VARIOUS USERS AND PRIMARY USES ARE SUGGESTED TO BE INDUSTRIAL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL.AND LASTLY, UM, IN THE TARGET INDUSTRY OPPORTUNITY SECTION OF THE LAND USE PLAN DISTRIBUTION LOGISTICS IS A TARGETED INDUSTRY.
AND THE PLAN STATES QUOTE, THE CONCEPT FOR TARGETING LOGISTICS IS NOT ONLY TO BUILD ON THE CITY'S EXISTING STRENGTHS AS A DISTRIBUTION AND LOGISTICS CLUSTER, BUT TO DIVERSIFY THE MIX OF JOBS AND IMPROVE THE INDUSTRY'S FISCAL RETURNS TO GROVE CITY.
THE CITY SHOULD FOCUS ON ATTRACTING THOSE INDUSTRIES THAT SUPPORT THE LOGISTICS CLUSTER THROUGH BUSINESS SERVICES, TECHNICAL AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, OR THROUGH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGIES AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE AT THE CONTROLLING END OF THE CLUSTER END QUOTE.
SO THEREFORE, THIS REZONING TODAY, UM, ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE GROVE CITY 2050 LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS SITE.
SO, WHILE THE FILE ENGINEERING HAS NOT YET BEEN COMPLETED, IF REZONED TO IND ONE C FIVE PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT THREE MODERN, UM, SPECULATIVE WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING, UM, THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS RANGE IN SIZE FROM APPROXIMATELY 210,000 SQUARE FEET TO APPROXIMATELY 243,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THESE SPECULATIVE BUILDINGS ARE DESIGNED TO BE OCCUPIED BY A SINGLE USER OR DEMISED FOR MULTIPLE TENANTS ALLOWING FOR THE PROJECT TO ACCOMMODATE A WIDE RANGE OF TENANT SIZES.
THESE BUILDINGS WILL ALLOW GROVE CITY TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN A DIVERSE EMPLOYMENT BASE WITHOUT COMMITTING THE SITE TO A SINGLE USER OR USE AND KEEP THE BUILDINGS ADAPTABLE.
THE ANTICIPATED OCCUPANCY IS LIMITED TO USES PERMITTED WITHIN THE CITY'S LIGHT INDUSTRY, UM, ZONING DISTRICT, INCLUDING WAREHOUSING, STORAGE AND DISTRIBUTION, WHOLESALE LIGHT ASSEMBLY, AND LIGHT MANUFACTURING RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND ACCESSORY OFFICE.
NO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL OUTDOOR PROCESSING OR OUTDOOR STORAGE USES ARE PROPOSED.
SO THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, UM, IN THIS POWERPOINT, UM, AGAIN, IS BEING PROVIDED FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES ONLY, AND IT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS FINAL ENGINEERING, UM, PROCESS AND WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, PLAN PROCESS.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UM, WE'VE, UH, PROVIDED A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS OF, UM, THE POTENTIAL PROJECT LOOKING NORTH HERE.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE FEDEX FACILITY AND THE INDUSTRIAL USES ALONG ENTERPRISE PARKWAY.
UM, AND ADDITIONALLY AFTER THIS, IF YOU WANNA KEEP GOING TO THE NEXT ONES, WE HAVE SOME POTENTIAL RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE PROJECT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE DAYTIME AND AT AND AT TWILIGHT.
UM, IF YOU WANNA GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN PLEASE.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS REZONING IS THE FIRST PART OF OUR REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING AGAIN THROUGH THAT FINAL ENGINEERING.
IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE REZONING, WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS TO FINALIZE THE SITE PLAN, AND THERE MIGHT BE CHANGES OR VARIANCES WE MIGHT NEED, UM, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION IN THE COMING MONTHS.
UH DASH MENTIONED, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO DETERMINE WHAT TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, IF ANY, ARE NECESSARY.
UM, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THE CITY IS TAKING, UNDERTAKING A CITYWIDE TRAFFIC STUDY TO DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS THE CITY HAS AND HAS ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THIS PARCEL WILL BE USED FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF THAT CITYWIDE TRAFFIC STUDY.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY TO DETERMINE, AGAIN, WHAT TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY IF NEEDED, AND WE APPRECIATE THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
UM, AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHRISTIAN, UM, TO PROVIDE SOME MORE CONTEXT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING TIME OUTTA YOUR DAY TO BE HERE.
SO, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON CORE FIVE.
CORE FIVE IS A NATIONAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER.
HOWEVER, WE ARE LOCALLY OFFICED IN THE GREATER CINCINNATI, CINCINNATI AREA IN OUR OFFICE.
WE'VE DONE ABOUT OVER 25 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE MIDWEST.
UM, AND SPECIFICALLY IN COLUMBUS, UH, WE AT SOME POINT IN, IN THE PROGRESS, WHETHER THAT BE EITHER COMPLETED AND LEASED, SOLD ACTIVELY UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR STARTING, UH, SEVEN TO EIGHT BUILDINGS IN THE COLUMBUS MARKET, UH, WEST JEFFERSON, UH, OVER IN AETNA.
UM, WE'VE GOT SOME ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT IN RICKENBACKER, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT GROVE CITY.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHY GROVE CITY, WE, WE FEEL THAT THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION IN GROVE CITY IS POISED FOR THIS TYPE OF SPECULATIVE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, GIVEN THE ACCESS TO 71, THE GREAT LABOR, AND THEN THE DEMAND FOR THIS PRODUCT IN, IN COLUMBUS.
UH, THIS, AS I, AS I MENTIONED, THESE BUILDINGS ARE SPECULATIVE, SO WE DO NOT HAVE THE TENANT DEFINED TODAY.
HOWEVER, UM, WORKING WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUPS, THERE IS A CLEAR NEED FOR SPECULATIVE PRODUCT GIVEN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS OF EMPLOYERS LOOKING TO DEPLOY, YOU KNOW, AND GROW AT A VERY QUICK TIMEFRAME.
SO THESE BUILDINGS WILL BE DESIGNED WITH THAT FLEXIBILITY IN MIND TO ENSURE WE CAN MEET A WIDE RANGE OF TENANT OPPORTUNITIES FROM, YOU KNOW, MANUFACTURING TO R AND D TO, UH, LOGISTICS AND DISTRIBUTION.
BUT EVERYTHING THAT FITS WITHIN THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE BEEN REQUESTING TODAY, UM, IN TERMS OF DEMAND, UM, YOU KNOW, VACANCY FOR INDUSTRIAL IS AT AROUND 5.5%, AND THAT'S DOWN FROM ABOUT 8% WHERE WE WERE A YEAR AGO.
UH, SO THERE IS SIGNIFICANT DEMAND
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FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IN THE MARKET.AND THEN AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXPECTING INVESTMENT OF OVER $40 MILLION IN THIS SITE, UM, AND CREATING OVER 65 JOBS AND $3 MILLION IN PAYROLL.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE ESTIMATIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SPECULATIVE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT'S BASED ON SOME OF THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT WE'VE DONE IN THE MARKET.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, WORKING WITH, UH, PLANNING AND THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND, UH, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION, JUST, JUST ONE ON THE INITIAL PLAN THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN NOW.
IS IT ENVISIONED THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A SECOND ENTRANCE, YOU KNOW, INTO THIS ON THE BACKSIDE? SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE, THE, THE WAY THIS PLAN IS LAID OUT IS YOU WOULD HAVE A PRIMARY CORRIDOR KIND OF ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK.
UM, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE FIRE ACCESS ENTRANCES JUST FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY, UM, BUT NO, UH, PLANNED TRAFFIC ENTRANCE ONTO THE SOUTH SIDE.
I REALIZE THE, UH, THE SITE PLAN IS JUST CONCEPTUAL AT THIS POINT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BUILDING C FLIP FLOP SO THE TRUCKS ARE LOADED FROM THE REAR, NOT NOT ALONG SEEDS ROAD OR, YEAH, SEEDS ROAD, ZEBRA ROAD, EXCUSE ME.
AND THEN HOW ARE WE SCREENING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT AROUND THERE? I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT WILL GET ADDRESSED IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THAT.
I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR IT TO BE THERE, GIVEN WHAT'S IN FRONT OF IT, BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEARBY.
SO THIS REQUEST IS FOR A STRAIGHT ZONING TO IIND ONE.
UM, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL INCOMPATIBLE LAND USE OR FRONTAGE, UM, LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.
SO YEAH, THERE'S JUST NOT THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL ON THIS.
I JUST WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD THAT ARE SENSITIVE TO THAT.
WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET.
I TOTALLY GET THAT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT PLANS ARE FOR THE BALANCE OF THE, UH, THE ACREAGE THAT IS BEING SPLIT OFF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STREAM? BASICALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET OR WITHIN THE C STREAM? OH, THE STREAM.
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I THINK OUR, THE PROPERTY OWNER, YEAH, JOHN IS HERE TODAY, SO MAYBE JOHN WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, BUT YOU'RE NOT PURCHASING THAT, YOU'RE ONLY PURCHASING THIS, THIS SPLIT IT OFF ACREAGE? THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE IS SOME FLOOD PLAIN THAT FOLLOWS IN A, A CREEK THAT RUNS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS WHY THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY IS THE SHAPE THAT IT IS, IS BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THE DEVELOPABLE LAND TO THE SOUTH.
UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS SPECULATIVE, UM, FROM A, FROM YOUR BACKGROUND WITH LOTS OF WAREHOUSES, UM, ARE THE HOURS NORMALLY EIGHT TO FIVE FIRST AND SECOND SHIFT, OR IS IT JUST ALWAYS, IS IT VARIABLE? IT, IT WOULD BE VARIABLE DEPENDING ON THE SPECIFIC TENANT.
HOWEVER, THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH, UH, THE LOCAL REGULATIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, NOISE AND HOURS OF OPERATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
PLEASE ADVANCE IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS, AND IF YOU'VE ALREADY SIGNED IN, NO NEED TO SIGN IN.
UH, EMILY MCNULTY, 6 7 1 2 RED PATH ROAD, GROVE CITY, OHIO 4 3 1 2 3.
UM, AS A RESIDENT LIVING WITHIN ONE MILE, THE SITE IN QUESTION, I'M HERE TODAY IN OPPOSITION, ALONG WITH SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS.
UH, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING OF 65 88 SEEDS ROAD.
UH, WE FEEL THAT THE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL REZONING IS ENTIRELY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE SURROUNDING RURAL AND AGRICULTURAL LANDSCAPE OF SEEDS ROAD.
IT REPRESENTS AN UNNECESSARY ENCROACHMENT INTO A NON-INDUSTRIAL AREA.
A COMPLEX OF THIS SCALE DOES NOT BELONG DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY WITH NO NATURAL BUFFER IN BETWEEN.
AND AT A RISK OF OUR PROPERTY VALUE, THE SEEDS ROAD IS A TWO LANE RURAL ROAD INCAPABLE OF SAFELY HANDLING HUNDREDS OF MULTI TON VEHICLE PASSES THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY INTRODUCE AND ANY MODIFICATIONS NEEDED TO REMEDY THIS FACT COULD POTENTIALLY RESULT IN COSTING TAXPAYER FUNDED UPGRADES.
BEING THAT THIS IS SEATED NEARLY TWO MILES FROM THE NEAREST I 71 ACCESS POINT, WE ALSO FEEL THIS LOCATION IS DECIDEDLY CUMBERSOME FOR ANY INDUSTRIAL COURSE OF BUSINESS, AS WELL AS INCREASINGLY DANGEROUS TO THE ALREADY HEAVY LOCAL TRAFFIC, WHICH INCLUDES PEDESTRIANS, RESIDENTIAL VEHICLES, AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT, AND SCHOOL BUSES.
ALL THESE FACTORS SHOULD NOT ONLY BE A MAJOR POINT OF CONTENTION FOR US AS HOMEOWNERS, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE THAT FOR FUTURE TENANTS OF THE STRUCTURE.
I HAVE SEEN THE DETAILS IN THE PROPOSAL THAT DESCRIBE THE TRAFFIC SURVEYS TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS.
HOWEVER, IF THAT DATA IS GATHERED IN THE AREA'S CURRENT CLIMATE, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CLOSURES OF YOUNG ROAD AND THE NEW HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ON RID PATH ROAD, THESE RESULTS WILL BE DRASTICALLY SKEWED.
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THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD CAUSE PERMANENT POLLUTION ISSUES IN REGARDS TO BRIGHT LIGHTS, LOUD NOISE, HEAVY DIESEL EMISSIONS, ALSO RISKS FOR HEAT ISLANDS AND DANGEROUS STORM WATER RUNOFF CHANGES AS A RESULT OF STRIPPING AWAY NATURAL FARMLAND AND REPLACING IT WITH CONCRETE.THESE WORRIES ARE NOT MINE ALONE.
ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 5TH, I DISTRIBUTED 200 PACKETS TO HOMES ALL WITHIN THREE MILES OF 6 5, 8, 8 SEEDS ROAD.
AND IN IT WAS A FORMAL PETITION AND OPPOSITION OF THIS PROJECT WITH A REQUEST FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS REZONING.
SEVERAL INFORMED INDIVIDUALS ARE IN ATTENDANCE WITH ME HERE AT THE MEETING TODAY.
IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO STAND, OTHERS WOULD'VE BEEN HERE IF THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN OFF WORK.
AS I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU, I HAVE RECEIVED OVER 76 SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION IN OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING, AND I KNOW MORE COMING.
I WAS IN ATTENDANCE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE LAST THURSDAY, AND ONE OF THE STATEMENTS EMPHASIZED AT THAT MEETING WAS THE IMPORTANCE OF THOUGHTFUL GROWTH IN GROVE CITY.
I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THIS SENTIMENT.
AND AS SUCH, I FEEL THIS PROPOSED REZONING FLIES DIRECTLY IN THE FACE OF THAT INTENTION.
IT IS NOT AT ALL THOUGHTFUL FOR THE CONTINUED PEACEFUL LIVING OF US AS RESIDENTS, AND IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR AN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS THAT HOPES TO OPERATE SUCCESSFULLY WITH THE UPGRADES RE REQUIRED.
THIS PLAN FEELS LIKE THE VERY DEFINITION OF TRYING TO FIT A SQUARE PEG INTO A ROUND HOLE, AND THERE IS NO NEED TO FORCE THIS REZONING IN AN AREA THAT BOTH DOESN'T NEED IT AND WILL ULTIMATELY SUFFER FROM IT.
CLEARLY, OUR AREA IS IN HIGH DEMAND AS TWO OTHER ITEMS ON THE DOCKET TODAY ARE FOR DEVELOPMENT HERE.
BUT PLEASE DON'T ALLOW FOR THE COMPOUNDING PROBLEMS TO GROW.
SHOULD THEY ALL PASS INSTEAD VOTE NO.
AND TAKE THIS ONE OFF THE TABLE FOR THE SAKE OF BOTH OUR COMFORTABLE RURAL LIFE AND EFFICIENT INDUSTRIAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
WAREHOUSES LIKE THIS SHOULD BE SITUATED DIRECTLY BESIDE A FREEWAY WHERE THE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS NEVER MADE TO NAVIGATE RURAL ROUTES AND WHERE RESIDENTS CAN SIMPLY DRIVE BY THEM, NOT LIVE BY THEM.
I KNOW THAT'S REALLY HARD TO DO, SO THANK YOU.
I DIDN'T SIGN, I LOST MY VOICE, SO YOU HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME.
UM, I DIDN'T SIGN IN, BUT WE HAVE TO LIKE INTRODUCE OURSELVES.
IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD SIGN IN.
AND THEN, UM, AFTER YOU'RE FINISHED WITH THAT, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT 3 6 0 3 ZEBRA ROAD, ORIENT OHIO, 4 3 1 4 6.
I'M NOT TECHNICALLY IN GROVE CITY, BUT I AM LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.
I LIVE PROBABLY A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILE AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED SITE.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOUR JOB TODAY AS UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS IS TO DICTATE WHAT YOU THINK IS THE BEST USE FOR THIS LAND AND PROPERTY AND NOT NECESSARILY, UM, TO LOOK AT WHAT THE SITE PLAN IS RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO CURRENTLY THE PLAN, THE LAND THAT IS THERE IS USED FOR FARMLAND AND, UM, FARMLAND.
WE ARE BEGINNING TO, LIKE, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE, UH, WE'VE HAD A BIG AMOUNT OF LOSS OF FARMLAND.
UM, AND SO IT'S THE USDA HAS ALSO NOTICED THAT PRESERVING PRIME FARMLAND IS OF MAJOR IMPORTANCE IN ORDER TO MEET THE NATION'S SHORT AND LONG-TERM NEEDS FOR FOOD AND FIBER.
CORN AND SOYBEANS AREN'T JUST FOOD AND FIBER.
CORN AND SOYBEANS ARE USED FOR A LOT OF OTHER PRODUCTS, INCLUDING, UH, SO LIKE SOYBEANS ARE BEING USED NOW FOR, UM, FIRE FLAME RETARDANTS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
UM, SO THERE IS ALREADY AN INDUSTRY THERE.
JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHIN THE CONFINES OF FOUR WALLS DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY LESS VALUABLE.
UM, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LAND AND THE USE OF THIS LAND THAT IS HERE CURRENTLY, YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE THAT THERE IS A, SO THERE'S THE LAND AND SOIL ANALYSIS THAT'S BEEN DONE BY THE USDA.
THE MAJORITY OF THE LAND THAT IS ON THIS SITE IS CONSIDERED CROSBY SILT LOAM, WHICH IS PRIME FARMLAND.
WHAT IT IS NOT IS IT'S VERY LIMITED FOR USE IN SMALL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, UM, USDA OR THE, YEAH, THE USDA, UM, NATIONAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION WEBSITE AND MAP, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THAT.
UM, THEY DON'T HAVE WAREHOUSES ON THAT, SO I'D ASSUME IF YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR SMALL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, IT WOULD NOT BE SUITABLE FOR A 200,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE EITHER.
UM, IT'S ALSO, UM, SO IT'S NOT GOOD AND IT'S ALSO NOT GOOD FOR ROADS AS WELL.
UM, THE SOIL IN THAT AREA, UM, IS, HAS CONCERNS FOR, UM, DRAINAGE ISSUES AND RUNOFF.
THERE IS A, THE, THE, UM, PLUM RUN THAT RUNS JUST TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND SO YOU, IF YOU, THERE IS ALREADY POOR DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA WITH PERMEABLE SOIL, AND IF YOU HAVE BLACKTOP OR CONCRETE THERE, THAT OBVIOUSLY IS GOING
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TO BE WORSE.UM, AND SO THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT ALL OF THIS, UM, IMPACTING OUR LOCAL WATER SUPPLY AS WELL.
I WILL SAY THAT, UM, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO BRING SOME BUSINESSES TO GROVE CITY TO USE, UM, TO ATTRACT EMPLOYERS AND REVENUE, I HAVE A WHOLE PACKET FULL OF AVAILABLE, UH, WAREHOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY MADE AND AVAILABLE FOR RENT RIGHT NOW THAT MEETS THESE DEMANDS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE TO, UM, TRY TO GET EMPLOYERS TO BRING THEIR REVENUE TO GRUP CITY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE YES, PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 33 26 ZEBRA ROAD, AND I DO OPPOSE THIS REZONING.
AND, UH, I ASK EVERYBODY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND EVEN PEOPLE FROM THE CITY, IF YOU THINK WE CAN HAVE MORE TRAFFIC OUT THERE, GO TO SEEDS AND NORTH MEADOWS IN THE MORNING WHEN FEDEX IS OPENING UP AND CLOSING, OR WHEN TIGER POLY'S LETTING OUT FOR THE DAY.
WE CAN'T TAKE NO MORE TRAFFIC.
AND YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN'S GREAT, BUT IF YOU THINK EVERYBODY'S GONNA TURN RIGHT OUT OF THAT FACILITY, YOU'RE WRONG.
I WORK FOR A MAJOR COMPANY THAT MAKES PRODUCTS FOR BATH AND BODY WORKS.
WE HAVE FACILITIES IN GROVE PORT, NEW ALBANY.
WE'VE TRIED IT, PUTTING SIGNS UP, NO LEFT TURNS, PEOPLE ARE GONNA TURN LEFT.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO DOWN UBER TO GO TO YOUNG TO CUT AROUND SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SIT IN THE TRAFFIC AT AT TIGER POLY.
I WAIT EVERY MORNING, UH, AT SHIFT CHANGE AT TIMES WHEN, UH, FEDEX IS TRYING TO CHANGE.
YOU HAVE ALL THE TRAFFIC TRYING TO TURN INTO THE HOSPITAL.
THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC OUT THERE.
WE DON'T NEED NO MORE TRAFFIC.
WE NEED TO PRESERVE THE FARMLAND AND PROTECT OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR VALUE FOR OUR LIVES.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO TRUCKS ALL NIGHT LONG AND I LIVE LESS THAN A HALF MILE, UH, NOT EVEN THAT, PROBABLY A THIRD OF A MILE FROM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS IS BEING PROPOSED.
YOU KNOW, I DRIVE BY THE LANDFILL ALL THE TIME AND LOOK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LANDFILL.
WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING NOTHING OVER THERE ON BILL.
UH, LOT'S WAY PUT IT OVER THERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, THE ROADS TO SUPPORT THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE IT OUT IN THE COUNTRY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH, BUT I AM AGAINST, YOU KNOW, THE INTERSECTION AT NORTH MEADOWS.
AND, UH, SEEDS SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED A LONG TIME AGO.
I MEAN, THE TRAFFIC COUNT THERE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY GETTING OFF THE FREEWAY NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE YOU COULD TURN LEFT OFF OF THE, THE ROAD FROM WENDY'S AND THE GAS STATION, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CHANGED THAT.
NOW IT FORCES EVERYBODY TO GO TO NORTH MEADOWS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? YES.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? ANYBODY NOW? THE PUBLIC? I HAVEN'T SIGNED ANYTHING YET, SO YOU HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT.
SO ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU SIGN IN YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
AND IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME.
I LIVE AT 68 63 RED PATH ROAD IN GROVE CITY, OHIO.
I HAVE NOT MADE ANY KIND OF PREPARED STATEMENTS
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OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT I INTENDED TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT.I'M A CITIZEN THAT LIVES OUT THERE ON RED PATH ROAD WITHIN A MILE OF THIS ASSUMED PROJECT THAT THEY MAY WANT TO BUILD OVER ON, UH, JUST PAST UBER ROAD THERE GOING, UH, NORTH TORY COLUMBUS.
I BOUGHT OUT THERE 42 YEARS AGO WHEN 6 65 WAS A TWO LANE ROAD AND HAD ONE GAS STATION ON IT.
I THOUGHT THAT I WAS FURTHER ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE CITY, GROVE CITY TO WHERE I COULD COMFORTABLY LIVE IN MY HOME IF I BUILT IT OUT THERE IN THE COUNTRY AND NOT HAVE TO LOOK AT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND MASS TRAFFIC AND FARMLAND DISAPPEARING.
AARON, ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THIS FARMLAND THAT'S GOING TOWARD THESE COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS.
HUNDREDS OF ACRES OVER ON 1 0 4 HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND DEDICATED TO THAT HUNDREDS OF ACRES.
THERE'S BEEN NO REAL IMPROVEMENT TO STATE ROAD ON OH FOUR SINCE SOME WAREHOUSES WENT IN, THE TRAFFIC IS EXTREMELY BAD OUT THERE AT THE HOURS WHERE NORMAL TRAFFIC LETS OUTTA WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY HAVE A MODIFIED ROAD, THEY HAVE A MODIFIED WATER SYSTEM OUT THERE, NO SEWAGE SYSTEM TO SPEAK OF OUT IN THAT AREA THERE.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IS THE LIGHTS.
THE NOISE AND WHAT KIND OF APPLICATION THIS WILL ALTER BE WHENEVER THESE WAREHOUSES GO IN.
THEY COULD BE MANUFACTURING FACILITIES, THEY COULD BE WAREHOUSE SPACE THAT HAS A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC GOING IN, GOING OUT, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE STUFF LIKE THAT OUT THERE.
I HAVEN'T GOT LONG TO LIVE, I DON'T THINK, AND I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE IT OUT THERE.
AND THERE'S MANY, MANY PEOPLE ON RED PATH ROAD THAT I KNOW THAT COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF OTHER THINGS THEY HAD THAT THEY HAD TO DO.
BUT JUST THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE AROUND ME MM-HMM
THAT I KNOW, THAT I SPEAK OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT'S HANDICAPPED, THAT CAN'T GET OUT AND TRAVEL WOULD'VE BEEN HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON THIS JUST LIKE I AM.
I WANT YOU ALL TO SITTING UP THERE TO PUT YOUR ARE SELF IN HORSESHOE THAT LIVE OUT THERE.
RED PATH ROAD, FOR INSTANCE, BEEN ON THAT ROAD FOR 42 YEARS.
THE TOWNSHIP AND, UH, THEM HAVE HAVE COME OUT ON THAT ROAD ONCE OR TWICE AND PUT OVER PAVEMENT ON TOP OF IT WITH GRAVEL, GROUND IT UP ONCE AND PUT GRAVEL ON IT.
IT'S, IT'S HARD FOR TWO LARGE VEHICLES TO EVEN PASS ON IT.
WE CONSTANTLY HAVE FLOOD WATERS GOING ACROSS IT.
UH, THERE'S JUST ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS OUT THERE THAT THIS WOULD DO NOTHING BUT CONTRIBUTE TO.
AND THE LADY THAT WAS HERE EARLIER, I'LL JUST KINDLY INTERJECT THAT.
WELL, YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THERE WAS A TIME LIMIT ON IT.
I I DID STATE THAT AT THE BEGINNING, BUT PERHAPS IT WAS SHE SAID IT AT THE BEGINNING.
CAN ANYBODY ELSE GIVE ME SOME TIME?
THERE IS A LARGE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX OVER THERE BY THE DUMP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PRETTY MUCH FULLY DEVELOPED.
THEY COULD HANDLE TRAFFIC IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SITE MUCH, MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT THAT AREA COULD.
OUR FARMLAND, WE CAN'T GET IT BACK WHEN IT'S GONE.
YOU DO WHAT YOU VOTE THE WAY YOU WANT TO VOTE, BUT PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES THAT LIVE OUT THERE.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO GET UP AND GO DOWN YOUR ROAD A MILE AND BE STARING AT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIT THERE AND WAIT ON TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUTTA THAT PLACE FOR 15 OR 20 MINUTES EVERY DAY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO LISTEN TO NOISE OF THE EVENING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THAT THIS MAY BE GENERATING THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD OVER THERE WHERE SILI OWNS ALL THAT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY WOULD BE A MUCH, MUCH BETTER PLACE TO PUT THIS.
IT'S ALREADY DESIGNED AND, AND, UH, APPROVED FOR WAREHOUSE SPACE, COMMERCIAL
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BUILDINGS OF ALL KINDS.THERE'S NO SENSE IN TAKING THAT FARM LAND AND PUTTING IT IN AN AREA OVER THERE WHERE IT AIN'T GONNA DO ANYTHING BUT JUST HURT OUR HOME VALUES, INCREASE OUR TRAFFIC LOAD AND MAKE AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE UNHAPPY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC? WE'VE GOT TWO.
THEY'RE GONNA
I NEED, I NEED TO SIGN IN TOO.
I DO, I LIVE AT 58 77 HARRISBURG PIKE.
UM, ACTUALLY I CAME IN TO HEAR ABOUT ANOTHER ZONING SUBJECT, BUT I HEARD THIS AND I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO REALLY SPEAK ON THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SEEDS ROAD AND MEADOWS DRIVE, IT JUST, IT'S A MESS THERE.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I LIVE DOWN AT 62 AND, AND 6 65 RIGHT IN THAT LITTLE SECTION OF PLEASANT CORNERS AND, AND COMING THROUGH THERE, THE TRUCKS, THE FEDEX TRUCKS ARE BACKED UP.
THEY'RE WAITING TO TURN, THEY'RE SETTING ON 6 65 AND THEN THEY'RE COME TRYING TO COME OUT.
THEY'RE WAITING TO TURN, THEY'RE WAITING AT LIGHTS.
AND YEAH, THERE'S CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY, I WON'T GO OVER THERE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET STUCK IN THIS MESS.
AND SO IF YOU DO A TRAFFIC, A LEGITIMATE TRAFFIC STUDY, LIKE, UH, THE LAWYERS RECOMMENDED OR SAID YOU MAY DO, IT'LL CLEARLY SHOW YOU THAT THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO THAT INTERSECTION, UH, WITHOUT PEOPLE SUFFERING.
AND SO, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT BEFORE WE DO ANY MORE BUILDING, THERE SHOULD BE ROAD CONSIDERATION BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME.
AND THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE ARE HAVING TO SUFFER THROUGH THE, THE CHANGES WITHOUT THE ROAD UPGRADES.
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CHECK OUT ALL STRUCTURE BEFORE WE ALLOW OTHER STRUCTURE THAT'S GONNA CAUSE ANOTHER STRUCTURE TO BE COMPROMISED.
SO THAT'S MY COMMENTS, I GUESS.
UH, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE SINCE 1981.
AND, UM, I'M LIKE, CLYDE, WE MOVED OUT THERE TO GET AWAY FROM DEVELOPMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE REALLY DON'T NEED MORE COMING IN ON US.
UM, THERE'S PLENTY OF LAND THAT I KNOW OF AROUND GROVE CITY.
THERE'S PLENTY OF LAND, LIKE EVERYBODY'S SAYING JUST NORTH OF 6 65.
THAT'S GREAT LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT.
YOU GUYS STILL GET TO THE, THE PROGRESS OF IT.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'VE GOTTA TAKE A LITTLE PIECE OF FARMLAND OUT THERE, A LITTLE PIECE OF OUR LIFE AND UPROOT IT FOR THIS STUFF.
UM, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THERE'S MONEY TO BE MADE, BUT NOT OFF OUR BACKS, NOT OFF CAUSING US TROUBLE.
AND YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAID IN HERE, THE TRAFFIC'S TERRIBLE AND THERE'S NO WAY, I THINK ONE GENTLEMAN SAID ABOUT THE TRAFFIC COMING OUT THERE ON SIEGE ROAD, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO GO ONE.
TELL ME A TRUCK DRIVER THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THESE SIGNS.
I MEAN THAT MOST OF 'EM DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO READ THE SIGNS.
AND I HATE TO, I'M NOT TRYING TO KICK ON ANYBODY, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE GUYS RIGHT DOWN IN OUR FACES, RIGHT DOWN ON OUR PROPERTY, UM, COMING DOWN A LITTLE ROAD THAT, I MEAN, WHAT'S HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY GETS KILLED? WHO'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? SO, I MEAN, IT'S, THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE WE GO THROWING, YOU KNOW, AWAY GOOD FARMLAND FOR GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT FOR MORE, UH, BUILDINGS THAT WE DON'T NEED.
SO I, I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS HERE THAT I THINK YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO LOOK INTO BECAUSE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS A, A REDISTRICT, A REZONING THAT DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN.
THERE'S PLENTY OF LAND AROUND HERE TO BE USED FOR STUFF LIKE THIS AND NOT, UH, TAKEN AWAY LAND THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TAKEN AWAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF THAT'S BEEN SAID, AND I THINK YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOTTA SAY.
BUT YOU GUYS LEAVE US ALONE OUT THERE.
LET US LIVE OUR LIVES AND LET US BE WHAT WE WANNA BE.
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SIGN IN HERE FIRST? YES, PLEASE.MY NAME IS, UH, JOHN VANSICKLE.
I AM THE, UM, OWNER, OR AT LEAST IT'S OWNED BY A TRUST, UH, THE ORIGINAL ONE.
I AM THE SUCCESSOR TRUSTEE OF THAT TRUST, AND I'M CHARGED WITH BASICALLY DOING WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TRUST AND THE, AND THE LAND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I'VE ALSO WORKED WITH, UH, JOHN VALLEJOS, WHO OWNED THIS PROPERTY, UH, FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS.
I WAS, UH, WITH HIM WHEN HE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY, AND IT WAS WELL OVER 25 YEARS AGO.
HE PURCHASED THAT AS INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
AND OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT USES FOR THE PROPERTY.
WE'VE LOOKED AT, WE'VE HAD, UH, UH, DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND DO RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
WE GOT PROBLEMS WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITE BECAUSE OF IT.
THERE IS A, IN A 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN IN THERE.
SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.
UH, PART OF THE REASONS THAT WE CARVED THIS THING UP IS 'CAUSE OF THE NATURAL, UH, FLOW OF, UM, OF PLUM CREEK.
AND TO, UH, ANSWER MR. ROACH'S, UH, QUESTION, WHAT DO WE PLAN TO DO WITH THE OTHER THINGS? UH, IMMEDIATE PLANS ARE, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO USE THAT, UH, ACREAGE TO FARM, UH, ON THERE.
UH, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I COULD SEE US DOING MAYBE SOME, UH, SELF-STORAGE UNITS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE USES OF THIS PROPERTY SEEMED TO BE CONDUCIVE WITH WHAT'S ALREADY UP TO THE NORTH OF THERE.
THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER INDUSTRIAL, UM, WAREHOUSES ALONG SEEDING, UH, SEEDS ROAD.
UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE STAFF, UH, HERE ON THIS PROJECT, NOT NECESSARILY WITH THIS DEVELOPER, WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER ON WHAT TO DO WITH IT TRAFFIC.
UH, WE'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES ON COMING, UH, YOU KNOW, BACK UP TO 6 65, UH, COMING UP ALONG STRAIGHTER, UM, UH, ROUTE THERE.
BUT NONE OF THAT WAS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH, UH, WE, WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A RELATIVELY GOOD PLAN ON THE, THE TRUCK TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH UP THERE.
AND, UH, THE CITY'S BASICALLY LOOKING AT PUTTING A STOP GATE AT THE FEDEX SO THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, ALTER, ALTERNATE, HAVE THE TRAFFIC COMING UP TO 6 65 TO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE GONNA BE ISSUES WITH THE, UM, WITH, WITH THE USER HERE, CORE FIVE ON DOING THE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THOSE, THOSE ARE THINGS FURTHER ON THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALSO BEEN APPROACHED, UH, PERSONALLY I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY, UH, PEOPLE WANTING TO DO SALES, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST CONDUCIVE, THE BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, FOR NOT ONLY, UH, FOR, NOT ONLY FOR THE THE PUBLIC, BUT FOR THE CITY, FOR THE CITY'S GROWTH.
YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN PLANNED THERE.
UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE STAFF FOR MANY YEARS ON, ON GETTING TO THIS POINT, AND WE WANT TO BASICALLY SEE THIS THING, UH, GO FORWARD THROUGH THERE.
YOU THERE? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION? NO.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD? IS SHE ALLOWED TO TALK YET? OKAY, WE'LL HAVE HIM IN THE, PARDON? IF YOU COULD JUST SIGN IN IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, JUST WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, THEN IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AS WELL.
MY NAME'S STEVE GRADY LIVE AT 68 91 RED PATH ROAD, GROVE CITY.
UM, A YEAR OR TWO AGO, THERE WAS ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE OTHER CORNER FROM THIS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO ATTEMPT TO ADD TO GROVE CITY AND REZONE.
AND AT THAT TIME MADE OHIO REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION SENT OUT A MAP AND SOME PAPERWORK THAT PRIMARILY ALL THE AREAS SOUTH OF 6 65 IS DESIGNATED AS FARM LED PRESERVATION DISTRICT.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE'RE TRYING TO TURN FARMLAND INTO WAREHOUSES WHEN WE NEED FARMLAND TO GROW FOOD.
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THEY'VE ALREADY DESIGNATED THIS AREA AS A PRESERVATION AREA FOR THAT.UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S STILL JACKSON TOWNSHIP PROPERTY AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANNEXED TO GROW CITY AND GROVE CITY HAS TO GET THE WATER AND SEWER RIGHTS FROM THE CITY OF COLUMBUS TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO THEIR, AND I, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE LAND BASED UPON WHAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AREA IS NOW.
I, I UNDERSTAND THE LANDOWNER.
HE WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO SELL IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S FINANCIAL DECISIONS FOR HIM AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HIM SELLING IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S PROPER TO USE IT FOR A, A USE THAT IT'S NOT ZONED FOR, IT'S NOT PLANNED FOR IN THE FUTURE FOR, SO THAT'S, UH, MY VOTE AGAINST IT WOULD BE A NO.
I HAD A FEW MORE COMMENTS IF I COULD JUST REAL QUICK.
SO I, I LIVE ON ZUBER ROAD AGAIN.
DO I NEED TO REINTRODUCE MYSELF? ANDREA TON ZUBER ROAD.
SO I LIVE ON ZUBER ROAD, AND SO ALL OF US ON THAT SIDE OF ZUBER ROAD, UM, ARE SOUTH OF THE LANDFILL, HAVE CITY WATER.
AND THAT WAS CONTRACTED BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WATER CONTAMINATION FROM THE LANDFILL.
SO, UM, WE ARE AT LIKE THE, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THE LAST PART OF CITY WATER THAT IS THERE.
AND SO I GUESS GROVE CITY MANAGES IT IN GROVE CITY.
AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'S A CITY OF COLUMBUS.
UM, WE HAVE MAJOR WATER PRESSURE ISSUES IN THAT, IN MY HOUSE ALL THE TIME.
THERE ARE WATER MAIN BREAKS ALONG THE ROAD IN FRONT OF THE SITE THAT OCCURS SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR.
SO, UM, I'M WORRIED THAT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO ADD TO THE WATER BURDEN, I GUESS, OR WATER DEMANDS ARE GOING TO, UM, NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE LIKE FURTHER SOUTH, FURTHER SOUTH ON ZEBRA ROAD.
AND WHO DEPEND ON THAT ON WATERS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE WELLS.
THEY HAD EVERYBODY LIKE FILL IN THEIR WELLS WHEN THEY PUT IN THE LANDFILL.
SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN ALSO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT LACK OF WATER, THERE'S ALSO THE CONCERN ABOUT LIKE FIRE SAFETY, UM, WITH THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, IF THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE USED.
UM, I ALSO, LIKE IF YOU DRIVE DOWN SEEDS ROAD, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A PRETTY CLEAR DELINEATION OF WHERE AN INDU INDUSTRIAL WORK STOPS.
UM, AND THAT IS SOUTH, UM, CLOSER TO TOWN ON THAT PROPERTY.
UM, AND IT'S ACTUALLY LIKE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE LIKE THE GROVE CITY CORPORATION SIGN IS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT LIKE THE ROAD GOES FROM 24 FEET WIDE TO 19 FEET WIDE.
UM, AND SO WHERE YOU HAVE THESE, AND I KNOW THIS IS A SITE PLAN ISSUE, BUT EITHER WAY, ANY PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE NARROWER PART OF SEEDS ROAD.
IT'S ONLY NINE, LIKE I SAID, 19 FEET WIDE.
AND IT SAYS, IF YOU LOOK UP, IF YOU LOOK ONLINE, THEY SAY IT USUALLY TAKES AT LEAST 24 FEET FOR A SEMI TO MAKE A RIGHT OR A LEFT TURN.
SO THE ROAD IS GOING TO NEED SOME SIGNIFICANT WIDENING, UM, BY EITHER THE CITY OR THE DEVELOPER IN ORDER TO MANAGE THAT.
BUT IF PA, IF PEOPLE TURN LEFT, YOU HAVE A HAIRPIN TURN AS WELL, WHICH IS ONLY 24 FEET WIDE, WHICH IS AGAIN, NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR THE, UH, SEMIS TO GO THROUGH SAFELY.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE GO AROUND THAT CURVE TOWARDS TOWN, A LOT OF TIMES THEY FLY THROUGH THAT.
THEY CAN'T REALLY SEE, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ACCIDENTS THAT COULD HAPPEN WHEN SEMIS ARE TRYING TO STRUGGLE OR MANEUVER THROUGH THAT TURN.
UM, PEOPLE MIGHT NOT SEE THEM COMING BECAUSE OF IT AND JUST LIKE, CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS.
SO JUST SOME OTHER LOGISTIC CONCERNS THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WERE ADDRESSED BY THE DEVELOPER.
IF, IF I COULD JUST KIND OF CLARIFY A COUPLE POINTS.
UH, THE SUB PARCEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS ZONE OR IS ZONE RURAL AGRICULTURAL IN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY.
SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR ORGANIZATION.
THE PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY, ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY.
UM, THERE IS A EIGHT INCH WATER MAIN COMING DOWN SEEDS ROAD THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY OF GROVE CITY.
GROVE CITY IS A CONTRACT COMMUNITY OF CITY OF COLUMBUS, NUMBERS OF WATER, UH, A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH ALONG THE SAME MAIN.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACT AREAS.
UH, ONE, THERE'S A BY RIGHT AREA, WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS PARCEL IN GROVE CITY.
BUT THEN WACO HAS AN AREA THAT GOES, UH, FOR FURTHER TO THE SOUTH, INTO THE WEST ALONG ZUBER ROAD.
UH, THAT IS WHAT THE, THE RESIDENT WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO,
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UH, THEY HAD TO HAVE WATER.UM, SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE'S DIFFERENT SERVICE AREA, CONTRACT AREAS.
UH, THE ONE, THE PARCEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY RIGHT NOW.
SO CAN YOU CLARIFY RELATED, TWO SEPARATE WATER LINES IF, OR IS IT IF YOU COULD ADDRESS PLANNING COMMISSION IF YOU'RE OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION? I CAN JUST MAKE ONE MORE POINT OF CLARIFICATION AND, AND MR. LOGAN STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, EARLIER TOO, BUT THAT, UM, THIS LAND, IT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY, UM, DATING BACK TO AREA PLANS, FUTURE LAND USE MAPS, MAPS FOR BOTH THE CITY OF GROVE CITY AND JACKSON TOWNSHIP.
THIS HAS BEEN SHOWN AS INDUSTRIAL IN THE FUTURE AND IT'S, SO WE'RE JUST CONTINUING THE PATH THAT HAS BEEN SET.
HOWARD ZIMMERMAN, 65 24 RED PATH ROAD, GROVE CITY.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE ARE TWO WATER MAINS.
ONE IS OWNED BY THE CITY AND ONE IS PROVIDED BY THE LANDFILL.
THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE ONES IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE'S ONE WATER MAIN, THE EIGHT INCH ONE IS OWNED BY THE CITY AT SOME POINT THAT THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT WATER MAIN GOES TO WACO.
AND THAT, THAT I BELIEVE THAT WATER MAIN IS REDUCED DOWN TO A SIX INCH WATER MAIN FOR ZUBER, FOR WATER FOR SUBER ROAD.
THE ONE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON ZU FORER FOR ZUBER GOING EAST WEST, GOING WEST ON ZUBER.
OKAY, THAT'S A SIX INCH WATER MAIN, UH, CONTROLLED AND UH, MAINTAINED BY WACO.
I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE DOING A STUDY TO DO IMPROVEMENTS TO REPLACE THE WATERLINE PIPES BECAUSE THEY ARE AWARE OF A NUMBER OF BREAKS ALONG THE AREA.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT OUR JURISDICTION.
UH, SCO WILL BE DOING THAT WORK.
UH, ANOTHER THING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IS GONNA NOT ONLY BE GOING RIGHT, COMING OUT THERE AND ALONG THE SEED ROAD, THEY ARE GONNA GO LEFT AND EVERYTHING.
WHAT IS THE SEMI GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME ACROSS ALL THESE FARM, UH, VEHICLES THAT TAKE UP A WHOLE ROAD? ALL OF US OUT THERE ARE USED TO GOING INTO A DITCH TO GET AWAY FROM THE VEHICLE, THE FARM VEHICLE, TO GET OUTTA THE WAY.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE SEMI MM-HMM
SO THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO BECAUSE WE'VE HAD OTHER SEMIS TRYING TO COME DOWN THAT WAY AND IT'S CAUSED ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. THERE'S FARM EQUIPMENT ALL UP IN THE ZOO, DOWN ZOO ROAD ALL THE TIME.
AND AS FAR AS, UH, THE PROBLEM AT, UH, 6 65, THEY'RE AT THE LIGHT AND EVERYTHING.
IF THE CITY REALLY WANTS TO FIX THAT PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, THEY COULD JUST MAKE THAT LEFT HAND TURN SIGNAL LONGER.
THAT'S A VERY SIMPLE THING WITH A PROGRAMMABLE LOGIC CONTROLLER THAT YOU JUST GO IN AND PROGRAM IT.
THAT'S A FIX THAT'S DONE RIGHT NOW.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE FUTURE TO GET THINGS GOING ON, BUT THAT'S NOT BEEN DONE.
SO THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING TRAFFIC? OTHER THAN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY? SO, YEAH, TRAFFIC HAS BEEN DISCUSSED A LOT TODAY, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, THE, THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT AN MOUA MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR THEIR ACCESS STUDY.
UM, THAT'S BASICALLY THE FIRST STEP WHERE THEY WILL HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR ENGINEERS TO DETERMINE WHERE WE ARE COMFORTABLE, WHAT THEIR STUDY WILL ENTAIL, SO WE WILL KNOW WHEN THEY'RE DOING IT.
SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL AREA ROAD CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED SO THAT IT IS REFLECTIVE OF TYPICAL TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
UM, THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THAT STUDY WILL ALSO LOOK AT ANY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY ACCESS THEIR SITE.
SO AT THAT TIME TOO, WE CAN ALSO SEE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THEY ANTICIPATE TO TURN A CERTAIN WAY.
WE HAVE FULL AUTHORITY BECAUSE, UM, OUR RIGHT OF WAY FRONTS ALONG THAT SITE.
UM, WE CAN SAY TRUCKS TURN RIGHT ONLY WE CAN DO IT THROUGH HOW THE CURB CUT IS DESIGNED WITH PORK CHOPS OR VARIOUS OTHER TRAFFIC CONTROL METHODS.
UM, AND ALL THAT WOULD BE SHOWN ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS STILL YET TO COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
UM, WE DO HAVE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS TO GET TO BE DONE THIS YEAR TO THE INTERSECTION OF SEEDS IN SOUTH MEADOWS.
UM, AS THE PROPERTY OWNER MENTIONED, UM, THERE WILL BE A STOP SIGN AND A STOP BAR INSTALLED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT INTERSECTION COMING OUT OF FEDEX.
UM, SO IT ESSENTIALLY GIVES THE SAME PRIORITY TO TRAFFIC LEAVING FEDEX AS IT DOES TO SEEDS.
RIGHT NOW EXITING FEDEX IS AN UNCONTROLLED, UM, MOVEMENT.
SO THEY GET PRIORITY ESSENTIALLY.
SO WE HEAR IT FROM AREA BUSINESSES THAT TRAFFIC CAN BACK UP CONSIDERABLY AND THIS WAS OUR RESPONSE TO THAT.
SO, UM, WE ARE PLANNING IMPROVEMENTS AGAIN, WE ARE DOING A CITYWIDE TRAFFIC STUDY AS WELL TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL AREA ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT THE APPLICANT FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE WILL HAVE TO EXAMINE HOW THEIR DEVELOPMENT DOES IMPACT AREA ROADWAYS, UM, AT THEIR SITE, HOW THEY INTERSECT
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WITH THE, UM, THE ROADWAY AND MAKE, UM, APPROPRIATE IMPROVEMENTS.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOO LATE.
I, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR TALKING TODAY.
I KNOW THAT'S HARD AND I HEARD EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS AND IT'S, IT'S, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR ME.
UM, 'CAUSE ANYTIME, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR RESIDENTS SPEAK UP, YOU WANNA LISTEN.
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE LANDOWNER AND HIM HAVING THE RIGHT TO SELL HIS PROPERTY AND NOT KEEP IT FARM.
UM, YOU KNOW, HE DOES NOT WANT TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
SO THAT IT IS TOUGH AND THE AREA IS, YOU KNOW, IT, I THINK I WOULD FEEL A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IF IT WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF RURAL.
UM, BUT THIS DOES SEEM LIKE IT DOES MAKE SENSE FOR THAT AREA.
I KNOW YOU GUYS PROBABLY DON'T FEEL THAT WAY.
UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR TALKING AND I DEFINITELY HEAR WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
I'M SORRY, I THINK THE PERSON IN THE FRONT WANTED TO, DID YOU WANNA MENTION WE'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK AGAIN AS YES.
QUICK, QUICKLY IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
WE'LL, UH, CHRISTIAN GREENWELL CORE FIVE INDUSTRIAL PARTNERS.
UH, FIRST OFF, JUST WANNA THANK AGAIN EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT AND, AND GIVING US YOUR COMMENTS.
OBVIOUSLY WE DO TAKE, UM, THAT INTO CONSIDERATION THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN AND PLANNING PROCESS AS WE TRY TO BE THOUGHTFUL IN THE WAY THAT WE DELIVER THESE BUILDINGS.
I THINK JUST TO, UH, MAYBE ADDRESS A FEW OF THE COMMON THEMES, UH, WITH THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, I THINK, UH, KIMBERLY SAID IT PERFECTLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ACTIVELY COMMUNICATING AND ENSURING THAT, UM, THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS INPUT INTO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
SO THIS IS BEING CONTEMPLATED ON THOSE OVERARCHING TRAFFIC STUDIES, UM, THE SEEDS AND MEADOWS STOP BAR THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO WOULD COMMIT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR A RIGHT ONLY, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY OUR INTENTION AS WELL.
UM, NOT BEING ABLE TO CONTROL TRUCK DRIVERS, THOUGH WE WOULD BE, UH, WELCOME THE CONVERSATION TO FIGURE OUT THROUGH ENGINEERING HOW WE COULD FACILITATE THAT BETTER.
UM, THE COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, LIGHT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ACTIVELY BE WILLING TO ROTATE THAT BUILDING.
UM, WE'VE ALSO HAVE, UH, THE OFFICES FACING OUTWARDS TOWARDS THE RESIDENCE WITH THE TRUCKS CONTAINED IN AND THE WAY THAT IT'S CURRENTLY SHOWN.
AND WE FEEL THAT BETWEEN NOISE AND LIGHT, THAT WOULD GREATLY HELP, UH, THE SITUATION.
UH, AND THEN IN TERMS OF STORMWATER, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK AS AN ENGINEER.
WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER HERE TODAY, SO IF THERE ARE ANY MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS, BUT IN GENERAL, THE WAY THAT THIS SITE IS BEING DESIGNED AND ALL OF THESE SITES ARE DESIGNED IS SO THAT THE STORM RUNOFF IS MANAGED CONTAINED, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, STORM WATER PROTECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, QUALITY AND CONTROL BEFORE IT'S ACTUALLY BEING RELEASED BACK.
SO WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT, UM, THE STORM WILL BE MANAGED APPROPRIATELY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF GROVE CITY.
AND JUST LAST THING, IF YOU COULD PUT THE ZONING MAP BACK UP REAL QUICK.
UM, UH, AND SO WE OBVIOUSLY APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THE RE THE NEIGHBOR'S, UH, COMMENTS AND WE WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BUT IF YOU NOTICE THE, UM, JUST SOUTH AND, UM, WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS IN JACKSON TOWNSHIP.
UM, SO I BELIEVE, I DON'T HAVE THE AUDITOR'S WEBSITE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE IS A TOWNSHIP RESIDENT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO THOSE FOLKS, BUT THIS PLANNING COMMISSION IS IN THE CITY OF GROVE CITY AND RESPONSIBLE TO, UM, UH, PROVIDE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS OF GROVE CITY.
UM, AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS SITE AS OPPO AS SUGGESTED BY THE LAND USE PLAN.
UM, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS IN MITIGATING THOSE THINGS.
BUT I WAS WANTED TO BRING UP THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN AND THERE'S USUALLY FRICTION, UM, BETWEEN WHEN, WHEN WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE TOWNSHIP, AND SO WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, BUT THIS IS IN THE CITY AND, AND SO WE WANT TO, UM, MAKE SURE WE BRING THAT UP AS WELL.
WE ARE READY FOR A MOTION COMMENT REAL QUICK.
I, I PROMISE I'LL TAKE LIKE A MINUTE.
I AM AT 65 48 RED PATH ROAD, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE VACANCY RATES, THE CURRENT VACANCY RATES OF THE WAREHOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY IN GROVE CITY.
HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU GUYS GONE AND LOOKED? IT IS VERY EASY TO FIND IT ONLINE AND I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER IS THERE REALLY A NEED? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY, BUT IF THESE SIT EMPTY, MUCH LIKE RICK AND BECKER EXCHANGE, WHICH I UNDERSTAND
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IS NOT IN GROVE CITY, THEY DIDN'T BUILD TWO OF THE GIANT WAREHOUSES THAT WERE ON THE PLAN.AND THE ONE THAT'S SITTING THERE IS STILL VACANT AND EMPTY.
THAT IS NOT ECONOMICALLY BENEFITING ANYONE.
SO JUST PLEASE CONSIDER, JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO BUILD WAREHOUSES, IS THERE REALLY EVEN A NEED? LITERALLY THERE'S A GIANT SIGN ON 71 NORTH RIGHT AFTER YOU GET ON SIX SIX, RIGHT OFF OF 6 65.
IT HAS 268,000 SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE LEASE SPACE AVAILABLE IN ADDITION TO ALL THE ONES ONLINE.
AND, AND SO IN ADDITION TO TRAFFIC, THAT'S GREAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO IT.
BUT MUCH LIKE CITY OF COLUMBUS WHERE THEY'VE BUILT ALL OF THESE OVERPRICED APARTMENTS THAT ARE NOW SITTING VACANT, ARE THE DEVELOPERS REALLY CERTAIN THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR IT? THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN SPEAKING.
WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH EMOTION CHAIR.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL.
ITEM FIVE, SECOND ROLL CALL MS. WEINGER.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL THAT SPOKE AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[5. APPLICATION: Subarea A of Beulah Park– Zoning Text Amendment ]
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, SUB AREA, A BAH PARK ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.MY NAME IS REBECCA MOTT WITH THE PLANK LAW FIRM WITH AN OFFICE ADDRESS OF FOUR 11 EAST TOWN STREET, COLUMBUS, OHIO.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO AMEND THE ZONING TEXTS FOR SUB AREA A OF BAH PARK TO ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND RETAIL COMMERCIAL IN TWO SEPARATE SUB AREAS.
THE ZONING TEXT FOR BAH PARK WAS APPROVED IN 2018 AND HAS BEEN AMENDED SEVERAL TIMES SINCE APPROVAL.
THE EXISTING ZONE OF STANDARDS FOR SUB AREA, A PERMITTED VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND MEDICAL USES AND INCLUDES DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS THE SHOPS OF BULA AND OHIO HEALTH'S MEDICAL OFFICES.
AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION, SUB AREA A IS PROPOSED TO BE DIVIDED INTO TWO SUB AREAS.
SUB AREA A ONE WOULD GENERALLY RETAIN THE PERMITTED USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARD CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED IN THE TEXT.
WHILE A NEW SUB AREA A TWO IS PROPOSED TO ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBJECT TO A SPECIFIC SET OF NEW DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS PROPOSED IN THE ZONING TEXT.
STAFF BELIEVE THE INTRODUCTION OF RESIDENTIAL INTO THE SUB AREA IS GENERALLY APPROPRIATE, BUT THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT NEED FURTHER ATTENTION TO ENSURE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS APPROPRIATE IN CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA STANDARD FOR SUB AREA, A TWO PROPOSED A 20 FOOT MINIMUM PARKING AND DRIVE AISLE SETBACK FROM PUBLIC STREETS.
HOWEVER, THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT STANDARD FOR SUB AREA A REQUIRE A 30 FOOT MINIMUM PARKING AND DRIVE SETBACK.
STAFF DID NOT BELIEVE A DECREASE IN THIS ESTABLISHED SETBACK IS WARRANTED OR, OR THAT THE PROPOSED 20 FOOT SETBACK IS APPROPRIATE.
GIVEN THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN SUB AREA A, WERE DEVELOPED TO COMPLY WITH OR EXCEED THIS 30 FOOT SETBACK.
THEREFORE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED STANDARDS FOR THE SUBAR AS WELL AS TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENTS, THE PARKING AND DRIVE AISLE SETBACK ALONG PUBLIC STREET SHOULD BE INCREASED TO A MINIMUM OF 30 FEET.
SIMILARLY, A 20 FOOT REAR PARKING GARAGE SETBACK IS PROPOSED ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALONG CASSIDY DRIVE.
THE CURRENT STANDARDS REQUIRE A 25 FOOT MINIMUM REAR SETBACK AND THIS, SORRY, 20 FOOT MINIMUM SETBACK.
AND THIS 25 FOOT SETBACK HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE SHOPS OF BULA DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL STANDARDS, ESTABLISH FOR SUB AREA A AND TO ENSURE ADEQUATE ROOM TO INSTALL APPROPRIATE LANDSCAPING BETWEEN SUB AREA A TWO AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.
THIS REAR END PARKING PARKING GARAGE SETBACK SHOULD BE INCREASED TO A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET.
THE TEXT INCLUDES LANDSCAPING STANDARDS TO THAT REQUIRE PLANTING AND SCREENING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE IN THE FORM OF TREES, SHRUBS, AND A TWO, MINIMUM TWO AND A HALF FOOT TALL INNER SPACED EARTH AND MOUND.
STAFF BELIEVE THESE STANDARDS ARE GENERALLY APPROPRIATE AND SHOW THE INTENT TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SCREENING.
HOWEVER, DETAILS REGARDING THE PLACEMENT AND SPECIES OF TREES WILL NEED TO BE EXAMINED IN MORE DETAIL AS PART OF THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION TO ENSURE SPECIES WILL PROVIDE ADEQUATE SCREENING AND THAT APPROPRIATE SPACING IS PROVIDED FOR THESE TREES AND SHRUBS TO GROW.
ADDITIONALLY, THE THE TEXTS PROPOSES AN EIGHT FOOT TALL, OPAQUE WHITE FINAL PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
HOWEVER, CITY CODE DOES NOT PERMIT FENCES TO EXCEED SIX FEET AND HEIGHT AT ANY DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY.
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ADDITIONALLY, THE EXISTING FENCE INSTALLED WITHIN SUB AREA A BETWEEN THE SHOPS, PULE AND RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO THE SOUTH IS ONLY SIX FEET IN HEIGHT.NOTING THAT CODE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR FENCES TO EXCEED SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING FENCE ALREADY INSTALLED.
PRIVACY FENCES WITHIN SUB AREA SHOULD NOT EXCEED SIX FEET IN HEIGHT.
STAFF BELIEVE THE PROPOSED LAND USE IS GENERALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND WILL ACT AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL USES NORTH OF SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD AND THE RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE SOUTH OF BULAH PARK.
AND THEREFORE, AFTER VIEWING CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING WITH THE THREE STIPULATIONS NOTED.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? YES, I WOULD.
UM, FIRST THIS IS SUB AREA A AS PART OF BAH PARK.
BAH PARK WAS ZONED BACK IN 2018 AND MUCH OF THESE SUB AREAS HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A PORTION OF OUR SUB AREA A HAS ALREADY COMPLETED AS WELL.
BUT IT IS THE SALMON COLOR PROPERTY AT THE VERY NORTH OF OF BAH PARK ALONG SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD.
WE ARE COMING IN TO KEEP PART OF THIS SUB AREA COMMERCIAL UNDER PUDC, BUT WE WANT TO REZONE THE OTHER PORTION TO PUDR.
SO THE REZONING IS FOR PUDC AND PUDR.
THAT MEANS WE HAVE A ZONING TEXT THAT WILL HAVE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY FROM PERMITTED USES, PROHIBITED USES, LANDSCAPING, SETBACKS, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, AND UH, PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION.
SO COULD YOU GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE? SO WE ARE PROPOSING 104 MULTIFAMILY HOMES IN SUB AREA, A TWO.
THIS WOULD BE OVER TEN THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
WE ALSO HAVE A NEW RETAIL BUILDING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN A-P-O-D-C AREA THAT WOULD BE UNDER A ONE STANDARDS AND THAT'S A 12,070 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING HOPEFULLY FOR RESTAURANTS AND DIFFERENT USERS, COFFEE SHOP BOOKSTORE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES ALSO.
UM, THESE TWO SUB AREAS ARE BEING COORDINATED WITH THEIR LANDSCAPING TREATMENTS AND THEIR PARKING AND DRY VIALS.
SO THIS IS A MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE 197 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED, BUT WE ARE PROVIDING 238 OVER BOTH SUB AREAS.
THE FRAMEWORK FOR SUB AREA A ONE IS TO INTEGRATE THE NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH THE EXISTING SHOPS AT BAH.
AND THEN SUB AREA A TWO ESTABLISHES THE RESIDENTIAL VILLAGE, INCLUDING SELECTED GARAGES AND A CLUBHOUSE AND A POOL.
THE IDEA IS TO INTEGRATE THE ARCHITECTURE, LANDSCAPING AND SHARED YOUTHS PATHS AND GARDEN COURTS FOR A GARDEN VILLAGE FEEL OR A GROTTO FEELING WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AROUND THE MULTI-FAMILY AREA.
SO THE PROPOSAL EMPHASIZES A MATURE, QUIET RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT RATHER THAN ALLOWED OR HIGH INTENSITY, HIGH ACTIVITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BACK UP FOR A MINUTE.
UM, A REZONING TO A-P-U-D-R FROM A-P-U-D-C IS A LESS INTENSE, LESS IMPACT DOWN ZONING FROM A-P-U-D-C COMMERCIAL.
SO THIS WILL HAVE LESS IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORS, LOW IN LOWER INTENSITY.
BUT, UM, WITH OUR, UM, EXPERIENCE HERE AT THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, COULD YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE? DASH THANKS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHARED USE PATH.
THERE'S GONNA BE STREET SCAPE PLANTING.
THERE WILL BE GARDEN COURTS, A CLUBHOUSE AND GATHERING SPACES, PRIVATE PATIOS AND PORCHES AND BALCONIES.
AGAIN, THIS IS TO CREATE OUTDOOR ROOMS FOR PLACES TO WALK, SIT AND RELAX.
SO THE BEAH GARDENS VISION IS FOR, AGAIN, A QUIET, MATURE RESIDENTIAL SETTING AND IT'S HUMAN SCALED, MEANING IT'S THREE STORY BUILDINGS WITH ARTICULATED OUTDOOR LIVING.
THERE WILL BE BALCONIES AND PORCHES FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS TO ENJOY.
IT WILL BE CONNECTED WITH LANDSCAPE PATHS AND SHARED USE CONNECTIVITY AND IT'LL, IT WILL BE UM, VERY SOCIAL.
THIS IS SPECIFIC TO SUB AREA A ONE, THE COMMERCIAL.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING.
IN THIS SUB AREA IN PARTICULAR, THERE WILL BE 62 PARKING SPACES.
41 WE'RE REQUIRED FOR THE COMMERCIAL.
THE HEIGHT IS ALREADY SET AT 35 FEET.
WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE COMMERCIAL STANDARDS THAT ALREADY EXIST FOR THE SUB AREA IN SUB AREA A ONE.
WE ALSO HAVE TEXT LANGUAGE TO ADD TO UP TO TWO DRIVE-THROUGHS OR PICK UP WINDOWS WITHIN THIS SUB AREA.
A ONE THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRETY OF SUB AREA, A ONE INCLUDING OHIO HEALTH AND THE SHOPS AT BAH.
SO UNDER THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT
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STANDARDS FOR A ONE, WE DO HAVE RETAIL OFFICE COMMERCIAL RESTAURANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AS PERMITTED.WE CANNOT EXCEED 85% MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS LOT COVERAGE.
OUR PARKING SPACES ARE NINE BY 18 IN DIMENSION AND WE WILL HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL SCREENING, UM, BOTH TO OUR SOUTH AS WELL AS TO OUR EAST FROM SHOP, SHOP ULA ON, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY, IT REQUIRES CONTINUOUS 80% LANDSCAPE SCREENING WITH EITHER FENCE, WALL MOUND OR COMBINATION.
AND SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD WILL HAVE A THREE FOOT MOUND THAT'LL BE ALONG BOTH A TWO AND A ONE WITH TREES AND ADDITIONAL ORNAMENTAL PLANNING BEDS.
OUR SERVICE AND REFUSE DUMPSTERS WILL BE SCREENED FROM VIEW ENTIRELY WITH LANDSCAPING AND FENCE SCREENING AND WILL BE ONE FOOT ABOVE THE DUMPSTER, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY CODE UNDER SUB AREA A TWO.
SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE NEXT SLIDE DASH.
UM, WE'RE NOT TO EXCEED 15.25 UNITS PER ACRE.
THE UM, HEIGHT WOULD BE SET AT 50 FEET.
THESE ARE THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
THERE IS, OH, I JUST SKIPPED TO THE SECOND ROAD.
THE 50 FEET AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE IS ABOUT A MINIMUM SETBACK FOR BUILDING FROM SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PRIMARY BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH REAR LINE.
THERE WILL BE GARAGE UNITS THAT ARE CLOSER THAN 50 FEET, BUT THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE TEXT.
THE HEIGHT, AGAIN, IS SET AT 50 FEET AND IN THIS SUB AREA WE'RE PROPOSING 176 PARKING SPACES.
UM, WE WELL EXCEED THE NUMBER OF TREES YOU SEE IN THE LAST BLOCK THERE, BUT WE HAVE A MINIMUM COMMITMENT IN THE TEXT OF 140 PLUS NEW TREES.
THOSE ARE TWO INCH MINIMUM CALIBER.
NEXT SLIDE DASH FOR SUB AREA A TWO, WE WERE VERY CONCERNED AND, UM, SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS TO OUR SOUTH THAT ARE IN A SINGLE FAMILY SECTION OF BAH PARK.
AND SO WE HAVE 35 STREET TREES IN SUBURBIA A TWO, WE HAVE 208 NEW TREES, THAT'S TWO PER DWELLING UNIT.
WE HAVE TREES AND SHRUBS, 22 PLUS 43 ALONG THE SOUTHERN EDGE.
AND WE HAVE 31 SHRUBS ON THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
SO RELATED TO THE EASTERN EDGE AND THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THERE WILL BE A 20 FOOT MINIMUM PARKING, UM, SETBACK.
AND THAT'S ALONG THE PUBLIC STREETS.
WE ALSO HAVE, AGAIN, A CONTINUOUS THREE FOOT HEIGHT EVERGREEN HEDGE.
AND ALONG THAT EASTERN PROPERTY PROPERTY LINE, UM, ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL, THE NEW COMMERCIAL, WE WOULD HAVE A FIVE FOOT HIGH, 90% EVERGREEN SCREEN.
THE RESIDENTIAL BUFFER TO THE SOUTH WILL BE TREATED WITH A LOT MORE, UM, SPECIFICITY THAT WILL HAVE AN INTERSPERSED TWO AND A HALF FOOT MOUND, A MIX OF OUR BDE DECIDUOUS TREES, SHRUBS, AND THE NEIGHBORS REQUESTED AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE IN OUR NEIGHBOR MEETING THAT WE HELD ON AUGUST 18TH.
WE KNOW THE CITY REQUIRES SIX FOOT AND NOT TO EXCEED SIX FOOT, BUT WE WANTED TO DO WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ASKED OF US.
THEY WERE PRETTY ADAMANT SIX FEET WAS NOT GONNA BE, UM, GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEIR, THEIR INTERESTS.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING AN EIGHT FOOT VINYL FENCE.
UM, AGAIN, WE ARE COMMITTING TO A MINIMUM OF 140 NEW TREES, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ALREADY EXCEEDING THAT WITH THE 208.
SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, I WANNA GET INTO SOME OF THIS REALLY WITH SPECIFICS BECAUSE THESE WERE, UM, THOUGHT OUT BUT OUR, BY OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO PROVIDE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SCREENING AND BEAUTIFICATION ON THAT SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
SO THERE'S A SUGGESTION TO USE THE PARTICULAR GREEN GIANT ARBOR VITALE, WHICH WILL GROW UP TO 20 TO 40 FEET AT MATURITY AND IS SIX FEET AT INSTALL.
IT GROW GROWS THREE TO FIVE FEET PER YEAR.
SO THAT'S A PRETTY FAST GROWING UM, TREE.
WE ALSO HAVE PROPOSED A YELLOW RIBBON ARBOR VITAE, WHICH IS SIX FOOT FEET AT INSTALL.
AND THE DECIDUOUS TREES WOULD BE EASTERN RED CEDARS INSTALLED AT SIX FEET FRUITLESS SWEET GUMS AT 10 TO 12 FEET.
AND RED MAPLE VARIETY, 10 TO 12 FEET IN HEIGHT.
SO THIS IS A VERY DENSE SCREENING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
IF WE COULD FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE DASH FOR ARCHITECTURE, AGAIN, WE ARE DOING A LOT OF ARTICULATION.
DORMERS, PORTICOS, BALCONIES, RECESSES.
THIS IS VERY HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURE.
WE CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN 35% OF A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FACING AN ELEVATION WITH VINYL.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE STONE OR THE BRICK.
AND SO OUR MATERIALS ARE BRICK, STONE, CASTSTONE, CEMENT BOARD SIDING, VINYL SIDING, OR A COMBINATION.
WE DO HAVE GARAGES FOR SOME OF THE UNITS.
THOSE WILL BE ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
SO AGAIN, THAT ADDS ANOTHER LAYER
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OF SCREENING FOR THE NEIGHBORS.AND UM, WE WILL HAVE THOSE FACILITIES MATCHING THE PRIMARY BUILDING'S ARCHITECTURE.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO OVER AS AN OVERVIEW, WE HAVE 104 NEW HOMES IN THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
PRIVATE OUTDOOR LIVING AREAS, SMALL SCALE GATHERING SPACES, SHARED USE, USE PATH, PLANTINGS, GARDEN COURTS AND OUTDOOR ROOMS. LAYERED RESIDENTIAL SCREENING.
THE DENSITY WILL BE COMMITTED TO, WE HAVE GOOD SETBACKS, HEIGHT AND PARKING STANDARDS, DETAILED TREE AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AND ARCHITECTURAL ART ARTICULATION.
SO THAT'S IT WITH THE PRESENTATION SLIDES.
I DO WANNA TALK ABOUT TWO MORE THINGS.
WE HELD, AS I ALLUDED TO A NEIGHBOR MEETING ON AUGUST 18TH HERE AT CITY HALL.
WE WENT THROUGH A PRESENTATION LIKE THIS.
WE, UM, DID LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY TO ALL THE CONCERNS.
THERE WERE ABOUT 10 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE, I'D SAY, AND THE FIRST I WANNA TALK ABOUT THEIR COMMENTS.
AND THEN WE BROUGHT THEM BACK AND STUDIED THAT FOR TWO WEEKS.
AND THEN WE RESPONDED TO THE NEIGHBORS ON AUGUST 31ST.
SO I'D LIKE TO JUST HIT ON THOSE CONCERNS.
SO WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT THE LIGHTING AND WHETHER THAT COULD BE DOWN LIT IN MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL SCARE SCALE FOR THE, UM, A TWO SUB AREA.
AND YES, UM, THE LIGHTING FIXTURES UNDER THE NORMAL BAH PARK ZONING STANDARDS AND ZONING CODE REQUIRE CUTOFF LIGHT FIXTURES THAT ARE DOWN LIT.
SO WE DID SHOW THE NEIGHBORS, UM, IN OUR EMAIL A COPY OF THE LIGHTING STANDARD THAT WE USE FOR BAH PARK IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PERIOD GAS LIGHTING FIXTURE, UM, TO BE UTILIZED LIKE THE TOWN CENTER AND PUBLIC STREET LIGHTS WOULD BE MOUNTED ON DECORATIVE POOLS.
THE, UM, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT BEING DOWN LIT AND IT WOULD ALSO BE ARRANGED TO REFLECT LIGHT AWAY FROM MANY STREET OR ADJACENT PROPERTY.
THERE WOULD BE LANDSCAPING AND BUILDING LIGHTING THAT WOULD BE DESIGNED TO DIRECT LIGHT, EITHER UP OR DOWN, CUT OFF OR SOFFIT.
AND PARKING FOR PARKING OR LIGHTING FOR PARKING FACILITIES WOULD HAVE 0.5 FOOT CANDLES MINIMUM MAINTAINED, WHICH IS, UM, A, A ZONING CODE STANDARD UNDER THE, UH, NEXT COMMENT WE RECEIVED, WHICH WAS THE FENCE.
WE WERE NOT PROPOSING AT ALL TO HAVE A FENCE UNDER, UH, SUB AREA A TWO.
BUT WHEN WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WE AGREED TO A SIX FOOT AND THEN WE CONSIDERED FOR TWO WEEKS GOING TO EIGHT, WE THINK AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, UM, WOULD LOOK KIND OF LIKE A BARRICADE.
WE, WE DIDN'T WANT, WE RESISTED THE EIGHT FOOT, BUT UM, AGAIN, NEIGHBORS REALLY PUSHED FOR THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND HAD SEVERAL EMAILS ABOUT THAT.
SO WE, WE ARE PROPOSING THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
IT WOULD BE, UM, AROUND THE SCREENING, THE LANDSCAPING SCREENING.
THAT WOULD BE AGAIN, THE MOUND, THE TREES, THE SHRUBS, THE ORNAMENTAL PLANTINGS.
AGAIN, 20 TO 40 FEET IN HEIGHT FOR THOSE GREEN GIANT ARBORVITAES.
THAT WOULD BE AMPLE SCREENING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS TO OUR SOUTH.
NUMBER THREE, THEY ASKED IF WE COULD RELOCATE THE DUMPSTERS.
WE ORIGINALLY SHOWED THEM THREE OF THEM ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
WE DID CAREFULLY LOOK AT THAT AND RELOCATING THAT AND WE WERE ABLE TO, SO YOUR SITE PLAN NOW SHOWS THE DUMPSTERS IN SUB AREA.
A TWO ARE ALONG THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, THEY WILL BE SCREENED FROM VIEW.
THEY ASKED ABOUT THE TALLER LANDSCAPING ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
THEY REALLY WANTED THE TREES AT INSTALL TO BE 15 FEET, 20 FEET AT INSTALL.
WE REALLY CAN'T INSTALL TREES AT THAT HEIGHT 'CAUSE YOU RISK THEM DYING.
'CAUSE THAT'S A REALLY LARGE MINIMUM CALIPER.
SO FOR THE MATURITY OF THE LAND, FOR THE GRADING, FOR THE CONDITIONS OF HOW THESE TREES WILL GROW OVER TIME AND NATURALLY BECOME A GOOD VEGETATIVE SCREEN, OUR LANDSCAPE SAID WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS LIKE REALLY A GREAT SCREENING AND IS THE BEST THING WE CAN DO FOR THE LANDSCAPE FEATURES ALSO.
NUMBER FIVE, THEY ASKED IF WE COULD ROTATE THE EIGHT UNIT BUILDINGS, THE SMALLER BUILDINGS A LITTLE BIT SO THAT THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES WOULD MOVE AWAY FROM THEIR VIEW.
UM, WE WERE UNABLE TO ROTATE THE BUILDINGS.
THE BALCONIES, THOUGH I CAN TELL YOU, ARE ONLY 11 FEET, TWO INCHES HIGH FROM THE GRADE.
AND THE THREE STORY WINDOWS ARE 24 FEET ABOVE GRADE.
WE, WE HAVE A COUPLE SITE LINE EXHIBITS.
WE SHOWED OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE EMAIL THAT WE SENT TO THEM IN AUGUST 30.
THIS WOULD BE THE, THE, THE ILLUSTRATIVE VIEWS FROM THEIR SINGLE FAMILY LOT INTO THE SITE.
BUT THIS IS JUST ILLUSTRATIVE AND IT'S NOT SHOWING THE SCREENING THAT WE INTEND TO HAVE.
SO THIS IS NOT SHOWING THE LANDSCAPING, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE VIEW IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE LANDSCAPING WE'RE PROPOSING.
WE ALSO HAVE AGREED TO HAVE EQUIPMENT ON OUR SITE TO BRING THE NEIGHBOR UP TO THOSE POINTS, 11 FEET, TWO INCHES AND 24 FEET UP TO SHOW THEM THE VIEW INTO THEIR LOT FROM OUR SITE SO THEY CAN SEE
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WHAT OUR RESIDENCES WOULD SEE FROM THEIR BALCONY OR THEIR WINDOW.BUT WE ALSO DON'T BELIEVE OUR RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE SPYING OR WANTING TO JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO THE, THE NEIGHBOR'S PATIOS IN IN LAWNS.
WE, WE THINK THEY'LL BE RESPECTFUL PEOPLE AND GOOD NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE WERE ASKED TO INSTALL THE SOUTHERN FENCE AND THE LANDSCAPING BEFORE CONSTRUCTION TO HAVE THAT ALREADY THERE WHEN WE, BEFORE WE START CONSTRUCTION.
AND WE SAID WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT.
WE DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE A PROBLEM.
SO WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT WITH THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TIME TO CONSTRUCT.
SO THOSE WERE OUR, UM, COMMENTS, CONCERNS WE DID ADDRESS WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
WE DID WANNA ALSO MENTION OUR ZONING, UM, TEXT AND ZONING APPROVALS BACK IN 2018 ADDRESSED THE TRAFFIC ALREADY.
SO WE HAD AN APPROVED TRAFFIC STUDY THEN IN ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAYS WERE MADE AT THAT TIME FOR THIS MASTER DEVELOPMENT OF 256 ACRES.
BUT WE STILL DID AN UPDATE TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO SEE IF OUR TRAFFIC WOULD CHANGE ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ALREADY MADE.
THERE WERE NO CHANGES WARRANTED.
EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE CONSTRUCTED OUT THERE WITH THE ROADWAYS AND IMPROVEMENTS WILL HANDLE THIS TRAFFIC.
AGAIN, IT IS A LOW, IM LOWER IMPACT, LOWER INTENSITY USE, WHICH MEANS THE TRAFFIC IS ALSO LOWER IN INTENSITY.
AND NOW I JUST WANNA QUICKLY GO TO THE CITY STAFF'S, UM, STIPULATIONS.
SO WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT CHANGING THE PARKING AND DRY VILE SETBACK ALONG SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD FROM 20, OR I'M SORRY, 30 FEET WE'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING 30 FEET.
THE CITY IS, AND WE HAVE IT DOWN TO 20 FEET.
WE CAN'T, UM, OH, AND THEN I'LL JUST ADDRESS THE SECOND ONE.
THE REAR PARKING AND DRIVE VILE SETBACK.
THE CITY WANTS IT TO BE AT 25 FEET.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT AND OUR SITE IS TIGHT.
AND WITH ALL THE GRADING WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO WITH THE BUILDINGS AND THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS, IF WE WERE TO ACTUALLY REDUCE BOTH OF THESE SETBACKS OR INCREASE THEM, I'M SORRY, THE, THAT WOULD COST US 15 FEET IN OVERALL DEPTH NORTH TO SOUTH, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE SPACING BETWEEN THE TWO LARGE BUILDINGS DOWN TO AROUND 10 TO 15 FEET.
AND BETWEEN THE SMALLER UNITS TO AROUND 25 TO 30 FEET.
AND ALSO THE LARGER BUILDINGS WOULD, WOULD LOSE THEIR GARAGE UNITS ON THE CORNERS TO MAINTAIN 20 FEET BETWEEN BUILDINGS.
AND THERE IS A FIRE SEPARATION DISTANCE THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF FOR THE BUILDINGS.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT, UM, OF DOING THE SETBACK CHANGES.
WE WOULD ALSO LOSE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
AND THEN FROM OUR ARCHITECT, HE WAS WORRIED ALSO ABOUT FIRE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS, ADEQUATE GRADING, UM, AND, AND ALSO MAKING SURE WE HAD ACCESSIBLE FRONT DOORS FOR THE FIRST FLOOR AND ONE BEDROOM FLOOR UNITS.
AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DESIGN THE BUILDINGS THE WAY WE SHOW YOU IN OUR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS IF WE DID ANY CHANGES WITH THE SETBACKS ON THIS SITE.
SO I WANTED TO AT LEAST COVER THAT AND LET YOU KNOW, WE DID CAREFULLY CONSIDER IT.
UM, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE STIPULATION OF NUMBER ONE AND TWO TO BE REMOVED.
WE'RE OKAY WITH NUMBER THREE STIPULATION, BUT I DON'T THINK THE NEIGHBORS ARE.
SO YOU'LL HEAR FROM THEM I'M SURE.
SO THAT IS ALL WE HAVE UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
I'M PAT KELLY, UH, DEVELOPER OF BULA PARK AND REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, TOWNSEND CONSTRUCTION.
UM, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT ABOUT THIS SITE ON SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD.
SO THIS WAS ALWAYS MET AS A BUFFER FROM THE INDUSTRIAL THAT'S, UM, NORTH OF SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD TO THE, UH, BAH PARK DEVELOPMENT.
WE ACTUALLY TURNED DOWN, UM, SHORTLY AFTER IT WAS ZONED YEARS AGO, UM, A DEVELOPER WHO WANTED TO DO A LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT DEAL, WE DIDN'T FEEL WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE.
WE'VE TURNED DOWN TWO COMMERCIAL USES THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL WAS APPROPRIATE FOR BAH PARK.
IT DIDN'T REPRESENT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
UM, AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE TO ATTRACT QUALITY COMMERCIAL USERS.
YOU CAN SEE AT OUR EXISTING RETAIL CENTER, WE'VE TRIED LIKE MAD TO GET A RESTAURANT.
WE STILL HAVE VACANT SPACE IN THE MIDDLE GOING ON TWO YEARS AS WELL AS THE END CAP.
BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT, UM, SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD, THE APPLICANT TOWNSEND, AS REBECCA STATED, UM, WHEN WE PLANNED THIS, SPENT $3 MILLION TO IMPROVE SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD.
THAT WAS TO WIDEN THE ROAD, TO PUT IN BIKE PATHS, TO PUT IN
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THE MEDIAN AND TO PUT IN RESIDENTIAL SCALE LIGHTING.AND SO IT REALLY CHANGED THE CHARACTER OF SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD IN THAT AREA.
AND SO, AND IT'S BENEFIT AT ALL BELA PARK, BUT NO MORE THAN THIS SITE.
AND IF YOU GO TO THE WEST ALONG SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD, YOU HAVE THE SENIOR GROVE CITY SENIOR LIVING CENTER.
IF YOU GO TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE THE SHOPS AT BUHLER RETAIL.
SO THAT GETS US TO TODAY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AND I'LL JUST POINT OUT IN THE UM, GROVE CITY 2050 PLAN, THEY IDENTIFIED RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE FOR THIS AREA.
AND THEY INDICATED MORE DENSE HOUSING, THREE TO FOUR STORIES, UM, THAT'S APPROPRIATE ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
UH, NOW WE DIDN'T WANT FOUR STORIES.
WE WANTED TO CREATE THIS VILLAGE FEEL SO THE BUILDINGS ARE PURPOSELY SMALLER, UM, SO THAT THEY DON'T DOMINATE THE SITE.
AND THE WHOLE FEATURE IS THIS MIDDLE OF THESE BUILDINGS WILL HAVE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING THAT'LL, SO A RESIDENT CAN WALK ALL ALONG THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS WAS VERY CAREFULLY THOUGHT OUT AS FAR AS THE PROPOSAL AND WE'RE SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS.
I UNDERSTAND THEY, AND WE, I PERSONALLY MET WITH A COUPLE OF THE NEIGHBORS AND WAS AT THE MEETING, REBECCA MENTIONED WE'VE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE IN OUR BUFFER THAT ADJOINS THE NEIGHBORS.
NOT ONLY DID WE COMMIT TO THE SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE, WE WOULD DO THE EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE IF THE CITY PERMITTED IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NEIGHBORS.
BUT I AM OPPOSED TO THE CITY RECOMMENDING MORE SETBACK HERE BECAUSE OF THE FACT WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT BUFFER.
THESE EVERGREENS WE'RE BRINGING IN, WHICH WE NEED APPROVAL FROM CITY LANDSCAPE, ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE PAINTINGS THAT GROW, UH, QUICKLY TO ACHIEVE 20 TO 30 FEET.
SO WE'RE SENSITIVE TO CREATING THIS BUFFER.
AND WE'VE GONE, I'VE NEVER DONE A BUFFER AS EXTENSIVE AS WE'VE DONE THIS.
I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR 40 YEARS.
BUT, UM, I ALSO WANNA MENTION ON THE UNITS THEMSELVES, THE THIRD FLOOR IS OUR BEDROOMS. SO THEY'RE NOT LIVING SP THEY'RE NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, LIVING ROOM KITCHENS, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND THE SECOND FLOOR, THERE'S NO, SO THERE'S NO BALCONIES ON THE THIRD FLOOR ON PURPOSE.
SO, AND THEN THE SECOND FLOOR DOES HAVE BALCONIES AT A HEIGHT OF 11 FEET, TWO INCHES.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE TOWERING OVER.
BUT I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ARE CON CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND WE UNDERSTAND IT.
IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE NOT MAXIMIZED DENSITY FOR THIS SITE.
WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THIS VILLAGE INTIMATE FUEL TO ATTRACT A UPSCALE RENTER.
I WILL SAY THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF BEAH PARK.
WE HAVE A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING OPTIONS FROM THE BEAH PLACE APARTMENTS TO THE TOWN HOMES, UM, THE SINGLE FAMILY, THE PATIO HOMES, ALL ALL OF OUR APARTMENT UNITS, 384 BEAH PLACE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPIED.
THE TOWN HOMES 84 UNITS, WHICH ARE UH, $2,600 A MONTH ON AVERAGE ARE ARE OCCUPIED A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THERE'S CLEARLY A NEED, UM, FOR, FOR HOUSING THAT LIKE WE'RE PROPOSING AND, AND NOT JUST HOUSING FOR THE SAKE OF HOUSING, BUT QUALITY, WELL THOUGHT OUT HOUSING.
AND TO ME IT PROVIDES, UH, A WONDERFUL BUFFER THAT WE'VE TRIED TO CREATE ALL ALONG.
AND SO, UM, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WHILE I'M HERE.
QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION? NO, THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HI.
IF YOU COULD SIGN IN IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.
I'M JULIE LOGSTON, NICE TO MEET ALL OF YOU.
UM, I AM ACTUALLY A NEWER GROVE CITY RESIDENCE.
SO I LIVE AT 3 7 3 2 CASSIDY DRIVE AS OF AUGUST 3RD.
UM, WE BUILT ONE OF THE CUSTOM HOUSES WITHIN THE PADDOCK.
AND, UM, WHEN WE, MY HUSBAND AND I, I WROTE A LETTER, I THINK IT GOT PASSED ALONG HOPEFULLY TO YOU AND YOU'RE ABLE TO READ IT.
UH, SO YOU KNOW THAT WE LOOKED ALL OVER THE GREATER METROPOLITAN AREA OF COLUMBUS FOR A SITE TO BUILD OUR CUSTOM HOUSE.
AND UM, PAT KELLY HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OF DEVELOPING BAH PARK.
HE HAS CREATED A VERY THOUGHTFUL LAYOUT AND IT
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ATTRACTED US, RIGHT? UH, WE HAD OUR CHOICE.WE'VE BEEN OWNER SHOWS OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY FOR TWO YEARS, SO WE HAD A CHOICE OF A LOT OF THE LOTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
WE, UH, CHOSE THE ONE WE DID BECAUSE IT WAS A LARGER LOT.
MY HUSBAND IS A CAR ENTHUSIAST.
WE HAVE A, UH, TWO, TWO CAR DETACHED GARAGE THANK, IN PART TO THE CITY WHO ALLOWED US TO DO AN EXEMPTION OR EXCEPTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT WORDAGE IS.
AND, UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ROOM FOR THAT AND WE THEREFORE CHOSE THAT LOT OVERLOOKING SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT WERE ON THE PARK.
I JUST WANNA MAYBE APPEAL A LITTLE BIT TO YOUR HEARTS IN THE FACT THAT, UM, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF UP AGAINST A BIGGER WALL HERE OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I AM NOT AGAINST.
PART OF THE REASON WE MOVED HERE IS BECAUSE THERE IS A SHORTING SHORTAGE OF HOUSING WITHIN COLUMBUS.
AND IT IS HARD TO FIND PLACES TO LIVE, PERIOD.
SO I'M NOT AGAINST SOMETHING BEING BUILT BEHIND US.
IN FACT, WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR LOT, WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SPACE AND WE SIGNED ON FOR THAT.
AND I WONDER IF WE WOULD'VE CHOSEN DIFFERENTLY IF WE KNEW THAT THAT WAS THE LOT THAT WOULD BE A BUDDING NOW A THREE STORY BUILDING BEHIND US.
WE'VE SPENT TWO YEARS OF OUR TIME BUILDING AND PREPARING.
AND WHEN I TELL YOU THAT MY HUSBAND AND I BOTH CRIED WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THE TRUTH WAS NOT THE TRUTH ANYMORE AND THAT WE WERE NOT GONNA HAVE THE PRIVACY FOR OUR TWO CHILDREN THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA HAVE WITH A COMMERCIAL SPACE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE THIRD FLOOR IS BEDROOMS, BUT PEOPLE WORK FROM HOME.
CHILDREN PLAY IN THEIR ROOMS, PEOPLE HANG OUT IN THEIR BEDROOMS. I KNOW THE SCREENING THAT IS PROPOSED IS ADEQUATE IN ALMOST ALL OTHER SITUATIONS, BUT IN 10 YEARS WHEN MY SON'S IN GOING TO COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, SO I ONLY HAVE 15 SECONDS LEFT, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF YOU INVESTED A GREAT SUM OF MONEY IN TWO YEARS OF YOUR LIFE FOR EVERYTHING TO CHANGE AROUND THE NARRATIVE OF WHAT YOUR BACKYARD WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE AND THE PRIVACY THAT YOU WERE GONNA HAVE AS A RESIDENT.
THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING, WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE HEAR YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? PLANNING COMMISSION? YES, GOOD AFTERNOON.
I LIVE AT 37 0 8 CASSIDY DRIVE IN GROVE CITY.
SO I AM, MY PROPERTY LINE BUTTS UP AGAINST THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I WANNA PREFACE BY SAYING I AM NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND MY HUSBAND WILL COME UP AND SPEAK AFTER ME.
BUT, UM, I CAN KIND OF ECHO WHAT JULIE SAID.
WE ARE NOT ORIGINALLY FROM GROVE CITY.
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 21 YEARS, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE NOT FROM HERE ORIGINALLY.
WE CHOSE GROVE CITY BECAUSE OF THE SMALL TOWN FEEL.
UM, BECAUSE WE, WE FELT THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
UM, WE FELT THAT SENSE OF BELONGING HERE.
WE CHOSE PAH PARK BECAUSE AS JULIE SAID, WE WERE TOLD FROM THE BEGINNING WHEN WE STARTED THIS WHOLE BUILD PROCESS, THERE WOULD BE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS BEHIND US.
AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT A 50 FOOT BUILDING BEHIND OUR HOME.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I WANNA ADDRESS RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE SPECIFICALLY.
I AM THE ONE THAT HAS PUSHED FOR AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
I DO NOT FEEL IT'S LIKE A BARRICADE.
WE ARE ONLY PERMITTED TO HAVE A FOUR FOOT FENCE AND EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
PROVIDES SOME PROTECTION INTO OUR BACKYARD, INTO OUR PATIO, INTO OUR HOT TUB.
UM, A SIX FOOT FENCE DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW THAT.
I MEAN, I'M SIX TWO, I CAN LOOK OVER A SIX FOOT FENCE PRETTY DOGGONE EASILY.
UM, THE STATEMENT THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO STARE THE BALCONIES FACE US, ABSOLUTELY.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA SIT ON A BALCONY WITH THEIR EYES CLOSED.
UM, PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE CURIOUS.
THIRD STORY BEDROOMS AT 20 SOME 30 SOME FEET WITH WINDOWS.
PEOPLE CAN LOOK DIRECTLY INTO YOUR BACKYARDS.
UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, MRS. MOTT.
MRS. MOTT AND I ACTUALLY SPOKE, SHE DID A FOLLOW UP LETTER TO ME WHERE THE DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO DO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
I WOULD IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE PUT THAT IN A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, THAT IS A BIG STICKING POINT FOR ME.
UM, THE TREES, MRS. MOT AND I SPOKE, I DON'T
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REALLY LIKE A SIX FOOT TREE THAT GROWS THREE TO FOUR FEET PER YEAR.THAT'S 11.5 YEARS TO GROW TO MATURITY.
AT 11.5 YEARS TO GROW TO MATURITY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WILL STILL BE IN MY HOME.
I WOULD LIKE THOSE TREES TO COME IN AT AT LEAST EIGHT FOOT, NINE FOOT, LESS THAN THAT GROWTH RATE SO THAT AT MATURITY WE CAN MAYBE AT LEAST ENJOY SOMETHING.
UM, SO THAT REALLY IS WHAT I WANNA SPEAK ABOUT.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THESE, BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE FURTHER CONCESSIONS.
I APPRECIATE THE WILLINGNESS OF THE DEVELOPERS TO TAKE US UP INTO A LIFT AT 11 FEET AND 22 FEET RESPECTIVELY.
WILLINGNESS TO DO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE IS A GOOD START, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS CHANGE THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY IN WRITING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HI, UM, MY NAME IS MATTHEW STORMS. I LIVE IN AT, UH, 3 7 0 8 CASSIDY DRIVE.
UH, AND, UH, MUCH OF WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, UH, PROBABLY DOES ECHO, UH, SOME OF, UH, WHAT HE SAID.
UH, SO WE, WE CHOSE BAH PARK FOR A REASON.
WE DID LOOK AROUND IN OTHER AREAS, BUT THERE IS NO PLACE AROUND COLUMBUS THAT IS ANYTHING LIKE BAH PARK.
WE ABSOLUTELY FELL IN LOVE WITH WHAT BAH PARK IS AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL THAT IT HAS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE NOT ONLY WHERE WE ARE, BUT SO PASSIONATE ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.
SO AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS, UM, WE DO APPRECIATE THE MEETING, UH, THAT WE HAD TO GO OVER THE DETAILS AND TO DISCUSS OUR CONCERNS.
WE APPRECIATE CONTINUED CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
UM, AS MARK MENTIONED, WE HAVE MADE SOME PROGRESS, UM, MOVEMENT OF THE DUMPSTERS.
UH, OUR UNDERSTANDING IN, UH, EMAIL IS THAT, UH, THERE ARE GONNA BE PITCHED ROOFS ON THE GARAGES.
UH, WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THE TREES ARE INCREASED IN HEIGHT, UH, BUT AS MARK MENTIONED, WE DO RE REQUEST THAT THEY BE A LITTLE TALLER TO START TO REDUCE THAT, UH, THAT TIME.
UH, FOR, FOR GROWTH TO FULL MATURITY.
UH, THE INCREASED, UH, FENCE HEIGHT TO EIGHT FEET IS, IS VITAL IN OUR OPINION BECAUSE WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR SAFETY.
WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR PRIVACY.
WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR INVESTMENT SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY THE BACKYARDS THAT WE HAVE THE SAME WAY THAT WE CURRENTLY DO AND NOT BE, NOT FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON SOME SORT OF STAGE.
UM, THE, THE BALCONIES ONLY ON THE SECOND STORY.
I, I THINK THAT'S GOOD THINKING.
I, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE WINDOWS ON THE THIRD STORY.
UM, YES, PEOPLE COULD LOOK OUT THOSE, BUT THE, THE BALCONIES PEOPLE, WHEN YOU SIT ON A BALCONY, WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU LOOK OUT, YOU'RE SIPPING YOUR COFFEE, YOU'RE JUST KIND OF LOOKING OUT, ENJOYING THE SPACE.
WELL, ME SITTING IN MY HOT TUB IS NOT GONNA BE WHAT I WANT TO PRESENT TO OUR, TO OUR, UH, NEIGHBORS HERE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF, UM, WHERE ALL OF THAT IS, IS COMING FROM.
UH, WE APPRECIATE THE, UM, STRUCTURE TO TAKE US UP, UH, TO SEE THE VIEW.
UH, WE DEFINITELY PLAN TO TAKE THEM UP ON THIS AND WE, UH, WILL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT SCHEDULING.
UM, ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT TRAFFIC, UM, AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE SIMILAR TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLANS WERE.
BUT I, I ASK THAT WE ALSO CONSIDER WATER AS WELL, AND SO THAT THERE IS A, AND SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT POTENTIALLY OUR WATER PRESSURE WITH THE INCREASED DEMAND.
UH, SO ULTIMATELY WE ARE REQUESTING THAT, UH, THAT THE DEVELOPER CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US SO THAT WE CAN GET TO A PLAN THAT WE ARE ALL COMFORTABLE A BIT WITH AND BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
UH, TYLER JACKSON, 7 9 6 5 NORTH HIGH STREET, SUITE 200, COLUMBUS, OHIO, 4 3 2 3 5.
I'M WITH KIMLEY HORN, CIVIL ENGINEER AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, I'M CIVIL, NOT LANDSCAPE, BUT TO, UH, ADDRESS THE PREVIOUS RESIDENT'S QUESTION ABOUT WATER IS WE'LL, WE'LL BE CONNECTING OUR WATER FOR THE RESIDENTIAL FROM BAH PARK DRIVE TO THE WEST.
UM, AND THERE'S SUFFICIENT FIRE FLOWS AND RESIDENTIAL FLOWS IN THE AREA.
IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT ANYTHING SOUTH OF
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US.OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.
I AM AT 3 7 2 4 CASSIDY DRIVE.
SO MY BACKYARD BUTTS UP RIGHT AGAINST THE SOUTHERN PART OF SOME AREA, UM, A TWO.
AND I, I REALLY JUST WANTED TO ECHO MY NEIGHBOR'S COMMENTS AND, AND SENTIMENTS AND EXPRESS MY CONCERNS AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO JULIE AND HER FAMILY, MY HUSBAND AND I, UM, LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES TO LIVE.
UH, WE BUILT A FULLY CUSTOM HOME JUST A YEAR AGO.
AND, UH, IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AREA BEHIND US WOULD BE ZONED FOR COMMERCIALS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE KNEW THAT AND WE ASSUMED IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING SHOPS THAT ARE AT BULA, YOU KNOW, ONE STORY.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS AND THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, UM, OUR MAIN CONCERN IS, IS PRIVACY AND SAFETY, OBVIOUSLY AS EVERYONE ELSE'S.
UM, I, I'D HONESTLY PERSONALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE FINAL GRADE OF THE PRODUCT, UH, THE PROJECT BECAUSE AS IT SITS NOW, THE ELEVATION OF SUB AREA A TWO IS ALREADY DECENTLY HIGHER THAN WHERE OUR HOMES SIT.
SO WHILE A LOT OF EMPHASIS IS PUT ON, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONY IS ONLY BEING 11 FEET TALL AND THE THIRD FLOOR BEING 24 FEET, IT, WE MIGHT ALREADY BE STARTING AT A, AT A DEFICIT BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY, WE'RE ALREADY LOWER.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, AND I ALSO THINK IT'S A BIG ASSUMPTION TO SAY THAT, THAT RESIDENTS WON'T BE LOOKING INTO OUR BACKYARDS JUST KIND OF ASSUMING WHAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO.
THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG STATEMENT.
BUT, UM, I THINK THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE IS THE LEAST THAT WE CAN DO.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE THAT THE DEVELOPERS IS, UM, HEARING OUR CONCERNS AND APPRECIATE THE CONCESSIONS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING INTO.
BUT I DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT PRIVACY IS BEING KEPT AT THE FOREFRONT OF EVERYBODY'S MINDS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PRODUCT PROJECT.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE HOMES THAT WE BUILT.
WE WANNA BE ABLE TO ENJOY OUR LIVES THAT WE WANTED TO CREATE HERE IN GROVE CITY.
ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING MORE.
UM, PART OF THE REASON WE WANNA TAKE THE RESIDENTS UP TO THAT 11 FOOT HEIGHT IS THE BUILDINGS FROM THEIR PATIO IS ABOUT 156 FEET.
SO THERE'S QUITE A DISTANCE TO THE APARTMENT BUILDING.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU GET OUT THERE RIGHT WHERE THE BUILDING WILL BE, YOU REALLY GET A GOOD SYNOPSIS OF WHAT THAT VIEW IS.
AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE, I'LL MENTION THESE TREES ARE GOING ON A MOUND, SO THEY'RE TALLER TO BEGIN WITH JUST TO ADDRESS THE GRADE.
I'M NOT THE ENGINEER HE IS, BUT IT'S NOT AT GRADE CURRENTLY AND THERE'S NO INTENT TO BUILD UP PADS OR ANYTHING.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE IF YOU START MESSING WITH THE GRADE AND THERE'S NO INTENT TO DO THAT.
AS YOU HIT, THERE'S A FIRE EXIT TO THE BACK THAT GOES TO BAH PARK DRIVE THAT HAS THOSE KNOCKED DOWN BALLARDS IF NEED BE.
SO THERE'S ACCESS FROM SOUTHWEST, BUT FIRE ACCESS, UM, WOULD GO THAT WAY AS WELL.
SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED A FIRE SEPARATION REGULATION.
UM, WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE, UM, WHAT'S, WHAT ARE THE FEET? WAS THE FIRE SEPARATION? YES.
HOW MANY FEET ARE REQUIRED? IT DEPENDS ON THE OP LIKE AMOUNT OF OPENINGS, LIKE WINDOWS AND BALCONIES AND THINGS.
BUT IT, TYPICAL RULE OF THUMB THAT YOU CAN TREE IS A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET.
BUT WITH THREE STORY BUILDING, YOU TYPICALLY WANT TO GET CLOSER TO LIKE 30 FEET, THIR 40 FEET BETWEEN IF YOU CAN.
IT'S ALSO JUST KIND OF A FEEL OF THE BUILDINGS BEING CLOSE TOGETHER.
AND TO SPEAK ON THE, THE DIRT ASPECT AND THE ELEVATIONS, THERE'S CURRENTLY A STOCKPILE OF DIRT ALONG THAT SOUTH PROPERTY LINE FROM THE EXCESS DIRT THAT CAME FROM THE HOME CONSTRUCTION TO THE SOUTH.
UH, THAT DIRT WILL BE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND IT WOULD BE IN NO ONE'S INTENT TO RAISE THE SITE AS PAT ISN'T GONNA WANNA PAY FOR THAT ANYWAYS.
OTHER QUESTIONS? THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE'RE JUST VOTING ON REZONING IT, CORRECT? WE'RE NOT, 'CAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE THREE STORY BUILDING, SO I THANK YOU.
I SO, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
WELL, THE ZONING TEXTS ALLOWS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 50 FEET FOR A THREE STORY BUILDING.
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UM, IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS OVER THE HEIGHT, THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED NOW.YEAH, I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE THREE STORY BUILDING BUTTING THAT CLOSE UP.
SO WHATEVER THAT MEANS FOR ME,
I DON'T LOVE THE BALCONIES OVERLOOKING THE BACKYARDS, BUT I, I'M NOT OKAY WITH THREE PERSONALLY.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE JUST A, JUST A QUICK STATEMENT THAT, UH, MR. KELLY HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AT BE PARK.
EVERY PRODUCT IN THERE IS WONDERFUL TOP-NOTCH FIRST CLASS.
DOES THE CITY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? UM, I MEAN THERE ARE, THERE DO APPEAR TO BE SOME OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS AND ISSUES.
UM, WE HAVE MADE OUR RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHAT WE FEEL IN ORDER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED ZONING.
UM, TEXT FOR SUB AREA A UM, THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THEY ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, UM, A FEW OF THOSE RECOMMENDED STIPULATIONS.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH A THIRD
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE.
UM, WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT WHAT THE APPROPRIATE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE.
I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME INPUT FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AS TO WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE TO MAYBE FURTHER THE DISCUSSION.
ULTIMATELY THE DECISION IS ON PLANNING COMMISSION FOR WHAT YOU WANT THE RECOMMENDATION TO BE.
THIS IS A ZONING TEXT, SO IT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT STEP IN THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF REGULATING, I THINK IT'S EASY TO SOMETIMES SAY WE CAN ADDRESS IT WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT ULTIMATELY THE STANDARDS THAT ARE APPROVED WITH THE ZONING TEXT ARE WHAT LEGALLY THEY COULD BUILD TO.
SO IF THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF IT, WHETHER IT'S THE SETBACKS, THE HEIGHT, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, NOW IS THE TIME TO ADDRESS THOSE.
I'M OKAY WITH THE, UH, SETBACKS AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT AND THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE MYSELF.
SO IF IT WAS UP TO ME, I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH NO STIPULATIONS.
BUT WE'D STILL HAVE TO HAVE A STIPULATION FOR THE FENCE.
'CAUSE WE ONLY ALLOW SIX FEET.
CORRECT? WELL THE, THE ZONING TEXT WOULD BE WRITTEN TO PERMIT THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO NOT SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
WE WERE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE, BUT THE ZONING TEXT AS IT IS PERMITTED WOULD ALLOW, OR I'M SORRY, AS DRAFTED, WOULD ALLOW AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
SORRY, CAN I JUST ADD ONE, THE THIRD STORY? THE RESIDENTS PRIMARY CONCERN, NOT POSSIBLE TO NOT DO THREE STORIES.
WE ALL HAD THE THREE STORIES EVERY SINGLE TWICE.
THAT WOULD MAKE THE PROJECT NOT FEASIBLE TO GO DOWN FROM THREE STORIES.
CAN YOU EXPAND ON WHY, IF I'M SORRY, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, COULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND AND LET YOU GOTTA COME UP.
YOU CAN COME UP AND JUST MENTION WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, I, I'M SORRY IF I'M BEHIND ON IF THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT JUST WONDERING WHY IT WOULDN'T BE FEASIBLE AT A TRUE STORY.
IF, IF THE EMPHASIS WAS PUT ON THE FACT THAT HE WANTED TO MAKE IT MORE OF A, OF A FEEL OF A SMALLER, UM, WHAT WAS THE WORD HE USED? UM, LIKING ON THE WORD, BUT JUST A KIND OF A SMALLER, UH, INTIMATE FEEL.
AND YOUR NAME? AMELIA JOHNSON.
SO WE PURPOSELY CREATED SMALLER BUILDINGS HERE INSTEAD OF MORE LIKE BARRACK BUILDINGS.
WE FEEL THE THREE STORY DESIGN IS MUCH MORE CONDUCIVE TO THE VILLAGE FIELD TO ALLOW FOR THIS MAIN FEATURE I MENTIONED, WHICH IS AN EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPED WALKWAY WITH SITTING AREAS.
AND IT'S THE REASON IT'S CALLED BAH GARDENS BECAUSE THE GARDENS IS A KEY THEME.
AND WE'VE BEEN, UH, VERY CAREFUL, AS I MENTIONED WITH THE, UH, THE BALCONY HEIGHTS, THE THIRD FLOOR BEDROOM SPACE.
AND WE JUST DON'T FEEL IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A BURDEN.
THERE'S A PRECEDENT WITH, UM, UM, THE BUILDING.
UH, WHAT'S THE BUILDING HERE? BROADWAY STATION.
THREE STORIES OVERLOOKING RESIDENTIAL.
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BAH PLACE, WHICH IS THREE STORIES, AND IT OVERLOOKS THE PATIO HOMES.AND EPCON DID A TREMENDOUS JOB WITH THE PATIO HOMES AND THERE'S BEEN NO EVIDENCE OF ANY IMPACT ON VALUE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND ULTIMATELY IT'S THE QUALITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL IMPACT VALUE.
AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE? NOT YET.
I'LL TAKE ONE MORE, UM, COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD.
UH, ONE THING I WANTED TO, TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE FENCE.
UH, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANTED TO NOT SET A PRECEDENCE OF, UH, GOING ABOVE SIX FEET, BUT, UH, I JUST, THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS EXCEPTION IS BECAUSE THIS IS RIGHT UP AGAINST OUR BACKYARDS.
SINCE THAT IS SO CLOSE, THE PROPERTY IS RIGHT UP AGAINST OUR BACKYARDS.
UM, WE ARE, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT WE MAKE THAT EXCEPTION FOR OUR OWN SAFETY, PRIVACY, EVERYTHING.
I THINK I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU, MS. OYSTER AND FROM YOU MR. FARNSWORTH, ABOUT ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE.
MY COMMENTS ARE THAT I'VE HEARD THAT THAT STARTS WITH A SIX FOOT EVERGREEN TREE, WHICH GROWS RAPIDLY.
SO IN MY MIND'S EYE, THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY THE NEED FOR A HIGHER FENCE AND THAT WAY THAT WOULD, UM, BE ABLE TO HELP THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS, UM, KEEP THINGS WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY ARE PROPOSED TO BE.
UM, I AM FINE, ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH GIVING, UM, SOMETHING ON, UM, THE, UH, OH, THE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF FEET, UH, BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES, UM, OR IN, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KEEP, UM, THE FIRE, UM, SEPARATION REGULATION.
THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE, UM, FINE WITH ME.
UM, AND ASIDE FROM THAT, I THINK, I THINK THAT COVERS MOST OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
TO CLARIFY, DID YOU SAY YOU WOULD BE OKAY WITH REMOVING STIPULATION ONE AND TWO? ONE AND TWO REGARDING THE SETBACKS THAT STAFF IS PROPOSING? BECAUSE AS PROPOSED, WE HAVE ENOUGH BUFFER OF THE PARKING AND DRY VILE TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD.
IF, IF ONE, ONLY ONE OF THOSE IS NEEDED, THEN I WOULD BE FINE WITH JUST ONE.
IF THEY BOTH ARE NEEDED, THEN I WOULD, UM, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH GIVING SO THAT ANOTHER 10 FEET COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD NEED.
I THINK IF WE, THE, THE SECOND ONE, UM, WHY DON'T YOU ADDRESS THIS TYLER, YOU'RE THE ENGINEER
UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE SECOND STIPULATION OF THE ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, WHICH I THINK ALSO MIGHT HELP NEIGHBORS, UM, OPINIONS, BUT IT WOULD JUST CONDENSE THE GARDEN FEEL.
UM, EVERY FOOT MATTERS WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THOSE BUILDINGS BEING UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.
UM, BUT WE CAN WORK WITH THE, THE ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET BEING ASKED ON THE REAR, BUT WE CANNOT WORK WITH THE ADDITIONAL 10 FEET BEING ASKED ON SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD.
SO STIPULATION NUMBER TWO WOULD BE THE WHERE WE COULD GIVE YEAH, YEAH.
SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF OF COURSE.
AND MY, MY CONCERNS ALSO ON THE SETBACKS AS WELL AS THE SIX FOOT FENCE.
SO I THINK WITH WHATEVER WE CAN DO WITH TREES, LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, VERSUS AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, I THINK WOULD SUFFICE FOR THAT.
PARTICULARLY WITH WHATEVER THE LINE OF SIGHT'S GOING TO BE FROM 11 TO DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE TREES WOULD BE.
'CAUSE YOUR LINE OF SIGHT, I MEAN, WHERE THE SETBACKS ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA TAKE, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE TO BE ABLE TO SEE DOWN INTO SOMEBODY'S HOT TUB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF, IF I CAN INTERJECT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE SOMEWHAT RESOLVED BUT NOT RESOLVED.
UH, I, I THINK MORE TIME MIGHT BE NECESSARY TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
THAT'S JUST FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, UH, IT DOESN'T HURT TO TAKE IT, TAKE AN EXTRA MONTH OR TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO, TO WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES BEFORE WE WE PUSH FORWARD.
I KNOW THE APPLICANT'S NOT GONNA WANT TO HEAR THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST ANSWER FOR EVERYONE.
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UM, REQUEST, WE'VE ALREADY TABLED THIS ONCE, AND TIMING'S JUST CRITICAL IN THIS BUSINESS.THIS IS THE LAST MAJOR PIECE OF BEAH PARK.
THIS STAFF'S BEEN FULLY AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
I MIGHT ADD THAT THE GARAGES, WE ADDED A PITCHED ROOF THAT FURTHER ADDS BUFFER.
SO IT'S NOT JUST FENCING, LANDSCAPING.
AND I AGREE WITH THE COMMENT THAT NATURAL LANDSCAPING'S ALWAYS BETTER THAN A FENCE.
AND WE'RE WILLING TO, AS I SAID, BE VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH THE NATURAL LANDSCAPING BENEFITS EVERYBODY, NOT JUST THE NEIGHBORS, BUT THIS COMPLEX.
AND SO, SIX FEET ON A MOUND, THAT'S TWO AND A HALF FEET.
YOU'RE ALREADY AT EIGHT AND A HALF FEET.
AND IF THEY'RE GROWING THREE TO FIVE FEET, TWO YEARS, YOU GOT A A, A NICE GREEN BUFFER.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUTSTANDING AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A VOTE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION.
I MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UH, OUR RECOMMEND COUNCILS AND APPROVAL FOR THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR VILLA GARDENS WITH, UM, STIPULATION ONE, REMOVED, STIPULATION TWO AND THREE REMAINING.
[6. APPLICATION: Shoppes at North Meadows – Rezoning ]
APPLICATION NUMBER SEVEN, SHOPS AT NORTH MEADOW.CARTER BEAN, BEING ARCHITECTS 20 22 31 MCCOY ROAD, COLUMBUS, OHIO, 4 3 2 2 0.
HI, I'M MATT ROBINSON, UH, O'BRIEN ROBINSON DEVELOPMENT 6 2 7 5 WILCOX ROAD, DUBLIN, OHIO.
THIS APPLICATION IS TO REZONE 1.3 ACRES AT 29 59 LONDON GROVE PORT ROAD FROM C TWO PUDC AND PUDI TO PUDC.
THE REZONING IS A SECOND STEP IN THE REZONING PROCESS, AND THE FUTURE APPLICATIONS WILL INCLUDE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE GROVE CITY 2050 FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, AND THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL ALIGNS WITH THE PRIMARY USE OF THE DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED REZONING IS AN ASSOCIATION WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SHOPS AT NORTH MEADOWS, WHICH INCLUDES A DETAILED ZONING TEXT TO REGULATE THE DEVELOPMENT ON SITE TECH HAS BEEN DRAFTED TO CONTAIN STANDARDS THAT WILL RESULT IN A HIGH QUALITY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SIMILAR TO MODERN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY.
THE ZONING TECHS PERMITS USES PERMITTED IN THE C TWO C ONE PSO DISTRICTS, WHICH INCLUDE A VARIETY OF RETAIL, COMMERCIAL SERVICE AND OFFICE USES.
THE TEXT ALSO REQUIRES FOR A SEPARATE, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT TEXT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDE INCLUDED WITH THE REZO, THE REZONING TEXT, WHILE THE DEVELOPMENT DEVIATES FROM STANDARD CODES, REGULATING SETBACK SIGNS AND THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
THESE DEVIATIONS ARE SIMILAR TO OTHER APPROVED DEVIATIONS IN PUD ZONING TEXTS.
AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE DEVIATIONS RESULT IN A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND SITE SITE LAYOUT.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE PARKING SPACES REDUCED FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SETBACKS ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE, WHICH THEN RESULTED IN INCREASED SETBACKS ALONG THE NORTH MEADOW PARKING DRIVE.
AND ALL SPACES HAVE ROOM FOR ADEQUATE LANDSCAPING.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETS ALL APPLICABLE GROVE CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
AND AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING.
AS SUBMITTED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? NO, JUST CONTINUED CONSIDERATION AND THANKS.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND WE'RE HAPPY WITH WHERE WE ARE.
DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK? YES.
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GOOD AFTERNOON.I'M AN ATTORNEY AT STRIP HOPPER'S LIGHT ART MCGRATH AND TURKI.
I REPRESENT, UH, DR. JAMES AND SUSAN LAYMAN WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE EAST.
UM, INITIALLY I WANT TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO, UH, TABLE THE MATTER TO THE NEXT MEETING, UH, A VOTE ON THE MATTER RATHER.
UM, MY PARTNER, TIM MCGRATH, WHO HAS BEEN, UH, LEAD COUNSEL ON THIS MATTER, UH, IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY FOR A COUPLE WEEKS ON A PRE-PLANNED VACATION.
UH, I CERTAINLY WOULD DEFER TO HIM AS A GROVE CITY RESIDENT HERE.
UM, AND, AND JUST AS FUNDAMENTALLY, UM, WE'D ASK THAT THE, THE MATTER BE TABLED TO GIVE MY CLIENT IN OUR OFFICE ADDITIONAL TIME TO DISCUSS, DISCUSS WITH THE APPLICANT A FEW ITEMS THAT WE BELIEVE NEED TO BE CHANGED IN ORDER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE COMPATIBLE FOR BOTH THE DEVELOPER, BUT ALSO FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I CAN RETIRE NOW AND YOU CAN CONSIDER MY MOTION TO TABLE, OR I'M HAPPY TO GO FORWARD WITH MY OBJECTIONS.
IF YOU COULD GO FORWARD WITH YOUR OBJECTIONS, PLEASE.
UM, AS I STATED, MY CLIENT OWNS THE PARCEL, UH, DIRECTLY TO THE EAST.
IT'S, UH, AS THE COMMISSION WILL NOTE, IT'S VERY NARROW PORT, UH, PARCEL.
UM, IT IS, UH, DRIVEWAY ACCESS ON LONDON GROVE GROVEPORT ROAD.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROPERTY'S GETTING RE, THAT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY'S GETTING DEVELOPED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THAT'S INEVITABLE.
IT'S ALSO INEVITABLE THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME OUR PROPERTY'S GONNA BE REDEVELOPED, AND AT THAT TIME, OUR ACCESS ON LONDON GROVEPORT ROAD IS GOING TO GO AWAY.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE THE TWO ENTRANCES ARE JUST GONNA BE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER.
UM, WE FULLY EXPECT THAT WITH ANY REDEVELOPMENT OF OUR PARCEL, UH, THERE WOULD BE INSISTENCE ON VACATING OUR ACCESS TO LONDON GROVEPORT ROAD.
THE PROBLEM BEING, UM, WE NEED AN EASEMENT SO THAT TRAFFIC ON OUR REDEVELOPED PARCEL COULD FOLLOW THE LINE OF TRAFFIC OUT ONTO NORTH MEADOWS, WHICH IS WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE BY THE APPLICANT FOR HIS CORNER LOT.
BUT IF WE POSE REDEVELOPMENT DOWN THE ROAD FOR OUR PROPERTY, THEN WE'RE PUT IN A, A TOUGH SITUATION OF HAVING NEGO TO NEGOTIATE FOR THAT EASEMENT AT THAT TIME.
UM, THE ZONING TEXT NOTWITHSTANDING, WE BELIEVE WE NEED THE SURETY OF AN EASEMENT ON RECORD, UH, IN OUR FAVOR.
AT SUCH TIME AS THE PROPERTY, OUR PROPERTY IS REDEVELOPED.
WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE USE OF, OF THE ACCESS IMMEDIATELY.
UM, WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE OUR ENTRANCE, BUT WITHOUT THAT BEING RECORDED, OUR CONCERN IS THAT IF IT'S JUST LEFT TO THE ZONING TEXT, UH, THAT, THAT GUESS WHEN THE LAYMAN PROPERTY GETS REDEVELOPED, WE'LL GIVE THEM AN EASEMENT.
WELL, IF THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER IS SOLD, THAT BUYER'S NOT GOING TO BE BOUND BY ANY ZONING TEXT NECESSARILY.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO THAT POINT, MY CLIENT IS A PRIVATE CITIZEN DOESN'T HAVE ANY RIGHT OF ACTION TO ENFORCE THAT ZONING TEXT.
SO, UM, FOR THAT REASON, WE WOULD ASK THAT ANY APPROVAL BE CONDITIONED UPON, UH, GRANTING OUR, UH, CLIENT THAT EASEMENT.
NOW THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE TAKE IS IN REGARD TO, UH, THE SETBACK ON THE EASTERN SIDE.
AND I SEE MY TIMES RUNNING OUT.
UM, IT, IT'S LIMITED IN THAT, OR IT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO 10 FEET, BUT, UH, IT, IT, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO KNOCK THAT DOWN TO FIVE FEET, WHICH IS A FAIRLY LIMITED SETBACK.
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ALSO COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT MY CLIENT AT THE, UH, AT THE EXISTING, UH, BOUNDARY, THERE'S A ROW OF MATURE, WELL-DEVELOPED ROBUST TREES THAT WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK.UM, IT PROVIDES A NATURAL, NATURAL SCREENING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SECURITY AND PRIVACY FOR, FOR MY CLIENT AND ALSO FOR FOR FUTURE, UH, OWNERS.
UM, IF I CAN CONTINUE JUST BRIEFLY, UH, SURE.
UM, ALSO MOST IMPORTANTLY, BY REDUCING THAT SETBACK ON THE EASTERN SIDE, IT'S ALLOWING FOR THE INGRESS TO THE CORNER LOT TO GROW THAT MUCH CLOSER TO OUR INGRESS CURRENTLY.
SO YOU'VE GOT TURN INS DIRECTLY ONE AFTER ANOTHER WITHOUT MUCH AREA BETWEEN THEM.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE COMMISSION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING AT THIS POINT? SIR? DO YOU WANT ME TO START? GO AHEAD.
UH, FIRST WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR FEEDBACK.
UM, IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE FEEDBACK JUST STARTED A FEW DAYS AGO, GIVEN THAT WE WERE IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER A MONTH AGO.
SO, UM, SECONDLY, WE HAVE, UH, ALREADY AGREED AND HAVE ALREADY ASKED OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO START THE PROCESS OF THE EASEMENT.
WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT, WE DESIGNED IT THIS WAY.
WE WORKED WITH THE STAFF FOR THIS EASEMENT ALONG THE NORTH SIDE.
UM, THEY WERE, UH, WORKED WITH US NOT ONLY FOR, TO PUT THAT EASEMENT IN OR, UH, FOR US TO AGREE TO THE EASEMENT, BUT ALSO WE'RE VERY HELPFUL IN THE WAY WE COULD COME IN AND OUT OF THE SITE ON NORTH BROADWAY.
AND NOT ONLY MAKES, UH, THIS SITE WORK FOR US, BUT IT MAKES IT WORK FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
SO, UM, I'VE ASKED TERRY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT TAKES, WE'LL COMMIT TO ANYTHING TODAY.
UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, WE'RE, WE, UM, WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AT THE PACE WE'RE MOVING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY THANKFUL YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, REALLY? I DON'T THINK, UH, I THINK WE HAVE IN THE PAST ARE ALREADY ADDRESSED OUR INGRESS AND, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANT ALL THE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR TO BE SUCCESSFUL, UM, WHATEVER THEY END UP DEVELOPING.
UM, SO WE WANNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TOO.
SO YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE GRANT EASEMENT AND ABSOLUTELY.
AND AS FAR AS THE SETBACK, UM, THE, THE SETBACK, DO YOU, ARE YOU, IT'S IT'S A PARKING SETBACK, NOT A BUILDING SETBACK.
UM, SO A FIVE FOOT SETBACK FOR PARKING LEAVES PLENTY OF ROOM FOR NICE LANDSCAPING ALONG THERE.
AND IT, IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE ENTRANCE OR EGRESS THE, THE RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT TO THAT.
WE'VE DESIGNED, WE'VE DESIGNED IT WELL, UH, AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY FOR THAT REASON.
QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION QUESTION OF STAFF.
IS THERE ALREADY SOME SORT OF EASEMENT ACROSS, BEHIND THE WAFFLE HOUSE AND, UH, THE TIRE DISCOUNTERS? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
THIS WOULD KIND OF EVENTUALLY MAYBE BE A CONTINUATION OF THAT.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, THAT STIPULATION IS ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT IS A STIPULATION ON THAT PLAN.
OTHER QUESTIONS? CLIN OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SHOPS AT NORTH MEADOWS, THE REZONING ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY IT'S ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
[7. APPLICATION: Shoppes at North Meadows – Final Development Plan ]
ALL RIGHT.NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SHOPS AT NORTH MEADOWS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
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FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SHOPS AT NORTH MEADOWS, AND THIS IS THE THIRD AND FINAL APPLICATION OF THE PUD PROCESS.THE PROPOSED APPROXIMATELY 9,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS LOCATED ESSENTIALLY ON THE SITE, AND ACCESS IS PROPOSED WITH A WRITE IN, WRITE OUT CURB CUT ON LONDON GROVEPORT ROAD, AND A FULL AND WRITE OUT CURB CUT ON NORTH MEADOWS DRIVE.
A DRIVE THROUGH IS PROPOSED ALONG THE REAR OF THE SITE THAT WRAPS AROUND THE WESTERN SIDE FACING NORTH MEADOWS DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN CARS STACKING FROM THE PICKUP WINDOW, OR NINE CARS STACKING FROM THE PICKUP WINDOW TO THE ENTRANCE BEFORE IMPACTING CIRCULATION.
THE SITE INCLUDES 59 PARKING SPACES LOCATED ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE AND IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND THIS NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES MEETS THE PUD ZONING.
TECH STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE OVERALL LAY LAYOUT AS IT CREATES A, A HIGH QUALITY DEV DEVELOPMENT ON A PROMINENT CORRIDOR IN THE CITY.
THERE ARE TWO OUTDOOR PARKING OR OUTDOOR PAD PATIO SPACES APPROVED, OR SORRY.
THERE ARE TWO OUTDOOR PATIO SPACES PROPOSED IN FRONT OF THE BUIL.
THE BUILDING AND THE MATERIAL INDICATES THAT THE PATIOS WILL BE ENCLOSED WITH A BLACK METAL RAIL RAILING AND HAVE BLACK DECORATIVE BALLARDS ALONG WITH BLACK FURNITURE IN BOTH PATIO AREAS.
THE PLAN ALL ALSO SHOWS THAT THE SITE IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THE ACCESS FOR THE REAR DRIVE ALONG THE PROPERTIES ON LEONARD GROVEPORT ROAD.
IN THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY EAST OF THE SITE IS REDEVELOPED, THE PROPOSED BUILDING REACHES A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 26 FEET, EIGHT INCHES, AND WILL BE FINISHED WITH A VARIETY OF MATERIAL, WHICH INCLUDE BRICK FIBER, CEMENT BOARD, AND BATTEN SIDING AND LARGE GLASS WINDOWS WITH METAL COPING ACCENTS, AND A PRIMARY COLOR PALETTE OF VARIOUS SHADES OF GRAY.
A A LANDSCAPE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED SHOWING LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE SITE AND THE, THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING OR ORNAMENTAL GRASSES, PERENNIALS, AND SHRUBS DUE TO LIMITED SPACE AROUND THE BUILDING PERIMETER.
THESE TREES WILL BE LOCATED AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE WHERE THERE IS MORE SPACE.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MEETS ALL APPLICABLE P-U-P-U-D AND GROVE CITY 2050 GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
AND AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMEND PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? NO, THE STIPULATION LOOKS GOOD.
WE WOULD ACCEPT THAT VERY GOODS PLANNING COMMISSION.
HOW SOON WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE GETTING STARTED ON THE PROJECT? UM, WE'RE MOVING ALONG QUICKLY.
UH, IDEALLY WE'D LIKE TO BREAK GROUND THIS FALL.
UH, WE'VE GOTTA WORK THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS QUICKLY, AND AS YOU KNOW, AND IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL GETTING OUR PERMIT, WE WOULD BE BREAKING GROUND THIS FALL.
YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A GREAT ARCHITECT, SO IT'LL GO GOOD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION? NO.
DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESSES AARON FURSTENBERG.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF DR. JAMES AND SUSAN LEHMAN.
UM, I WILL JUST, UH, UH, INCORPORATE THE ARGUMENTS THAT I MADE PREVIOUSLY.
UH, INITIALLY WE'D LIKE TO ASK THE MATTER BE TABLED FOR 30 DAYS SO THAT THE MATTERS MENTIONED EARLIER COULD BE DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT.
SECOND OF ALL, WE WOULD OBJECT, UH, UH, FOR THE REASONS RELATIVE TO THE CROSS EASEMENT.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE BEFORE, UH, ANY VOTE IS TAKEN.
AND NUMBER TWO, UH, THE FIVE FOOT, UH, UH, SETBACK ON THE EASTERN SIDE WE JUST FEEL IS, UH, PUNITIVE TOWARDS MY CLIENT.
UH, AND WHILE ADDITIONAL VEGETATION CAN BE GROWN WITHIN THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK, UM, ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT THE, UH, THAT THE MATURE SCREENING THAT'S THERE NOW IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SACRIFICED TO DO THAT, WHICH REDUCES PRIVACY AND SECURITY TO MY CLIENT GOING FORWARD.
UM, I'VE GOT NOTHING FURTHER AT THIS TIME.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE TABLE? I MEAN, JUST WE, UM, STAFF PULLED UP THE
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AERIAL.JUST TO CONFIRM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE VE VEGETATION, IT IS CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, IT, IT DOES APPEAR TO ENTIRELY BEYOND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, UM, AND NOT ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT DURING CONSTRUCTION PLANS TO SEE THE HEALTH OF THAT VEGETATION.
AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME ROOM FOR SOME COMPROMISE ABOUT PRESERVING SOME OF IT, UM, NOT INSTALLING IT ON THIS PROPERTY TO PRESERVE THE OTHER.
I MEAN, IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO IF, IF THE APPLICANT IS WILLING, BUT AGAIN, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE VEGETATION IS ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, SO I'M NOT ARBORIST.
SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT DISTANCE WOULD HAVE TO BE TO ENSURE THAT THEY DO, UM, THAT THEY ARE HEALTHY WITHIN A CERTAIN SETBACK.
WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT.
AND THE CONDITION ABOUT THE CROSS EASEMENT IS THAT IT WOULD BE RECORDED, SO IT WILL OFFICIALLY BE IN PLACE.
AND I, I THINK THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WILL BE GOOD WITH THE OTHER, SO IF I'M HEARING THINGS CORRECTLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH MOTION CHAIR.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SHOPS AT NORTH MEADOWS FINAL SECOND, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
WITH THE ONE STIPULATION WITH WITH THE ONE STIPULATION.
[9. APPLICATION: Southwest Gateway Innovation District – Rezoning ]
THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER NINE, SOUTHWEST GATEWAY INNOVATION DISTRICT.THIS APPLICATION WILL REZONE 610.9 ACRES NORTH OF LONDON GROVEPORT ROAD BETWEEN HARRISBURG PIKE AND HOLLAND ROAD FROM PUDI PLANNING TO DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRIAL IND TWO, WHICH IS HEAVY INDUSTRY SD THREE MISCELLANEOUS AND RA RURAL AGRICULTURAL TO IN, WHICH IS THE INNOVATION DISTRICT.
THE SUBJECT ACREAGE CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS AND THE REQUESTED REZONING WILL CREATE A UNIFIED STANDARDS COHESIVE WITH THE IDENTIFIED FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE AREA.
THE GROVE CITY 2050 FUTURE LAND USE AND CHARACTER MAP INCLUDES MULTIPLE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS FOR THIS AREA, INCLUDING FLEX EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND TECH TECH FLEX.
THE SITE IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY, SOUTHWEST REGIONAL MEDICAL AND INNOVATION GATEWAY, WHICH IS PLANNED AS A REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT AND INNOVATION CENTER THAT BUILDS UPON SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT INCLUDING MOUNT CARMEL GROVE CITY HOSPITAL AND SURROUNDING MEDICAL OFFICES, WHILE POSITIONING THE AREA TO ACCOMMODATE GROWING DEMAND FOR TECHNOLOGY-BASED BUSINESSES, FLEXIBLE OFFICE SPACE, INSTITUTIONAL AND RESEARCH FACILITIES, AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES TO BETTER ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S LONG TERM VISION FOR THIS AREA.
THIS APPLICATION PROPOSES TO REZO THE ACREAGE TO THE IN INNOVATION DISTRICT, WHICH IS A NEWLY PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A BROAD RANGE OF RESEARCH, OFFICE LABORATORY, CLEAN MANUFACTURING, AND RELATED EMPLOYMENT THAT SUPPORTS DIVERSE AND RESILIENT AND LOCAL ECONOMY.
THE DISTRICT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR APPROPRIATE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING WHILE EXPANDING THE POTENTIAL FOR RESEARCH TECHNOLOGY AND OFFICE-BASED DEVELOPMENT.
THIS INNOVATION DISTRICT IS SCHEDULED FOR A SOURCE READING AT CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, SEPTEMBER 8TH, AND ITS SECOND READING ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, WHICH ALIGNS FOR THE READINGS BETWEEN THIS APPLICATION AT CITY COUNCIL.
THE STANDARDS WERE CAREFULLY DEVELOPED TO SUPPORT THE LONG-TERM LAND USE VISION FOR THE AREA, WHILE LIMITING SEVERAL OF THE MORE INTENSIVE USES CURRENTLY PERMITTED WITHIN THE CITY'S EXISTING INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
TO FURTHER ALIGN WITH THESE GOALS FOR THE AREA WAREHOUSING, DISTRIBUTION, FULFILLMENT AND OTHER SIMILAR ACTIVITIES ARE ONLY PERMITTED WERE CONDUCTED IN ASSOCIATION WITH ANOTHER PERMITTED INNOVATION DISTRIBU USE.
THESE STANDARDS ALSO ESTABLISHED A MAXIMUM BUILDING FOOTPRINT OF 2,250,000 SQUARE FEET WITH THE POTENTIAL TO INCREASE TO 350,000 SQUARE FEET FOR PROJECTS THAT INCORPORATE ENHANCED SUSTAINABILITY, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, OR OPEN SPACE FEATURES.
IN ADDITION, STRENGTHEN BUILDING DESIGN, LANDSCAPING AND ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS ARE INCLUDED TO PROMOTE A COHESIVE, ATTRACTIVE AND HIGHER QUALITY DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT, NOTING THAT PROPOSED REZONING WILL BETTER POSITION THE AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE AREA, AS WELL AS OVERALL VISION.
AFTER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMEND PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING AS SUBMITTED.
QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
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JUST JUMP IN WITH A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.THERE IS NO APPLICANT STANDING AT THE PODIUM, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE CITY IS ACTING AS THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.
UM, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S HIGHLIGHTED THAT WE DID GET SIGNED LETTERS FROM THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE 600 ACRES, THAT THEY ARE FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.
QUESTIONS OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? UH, MY NAME'S CONNIE TUCKER.
I LIVE AT 58 77 HARRISBURG PIKE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PLAN.
AND, UH, WE ARE ON WELL AND SEPTIC THERE, ALL OF US ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD, UH, WHERE ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA TAKE PLACE.
I'M JUST WONDERING, MY QUESTIONS ARE, WHAT'S THE CONSIDERATIONS IN THAT AREA OF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA PUT CITY WATER THROUGH THERE, I'M SURE, RIGHT? I'M THINKING THE CITY WATER COMING THROUGH THERE.
THERE'LL BE FULL CITY SERVICES ON THOSE PARCELS.
AND SO, WELL, AND SEPTIC WILL BE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IS THERE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAP INTO THAT? OR IS WHAT'S, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN WITH THAT? ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW YET? ANYBODY WHO WANTS ACCESS TO WELL, AND, UH, TO WATER AND SANITARY HAS TO BE WITHIN THE CITY OF ROOF CITY.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T OFFER SERVICES OUTSIDE 'CAUSE WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IF YOU ANNEX INTO THE CITY, THEN POSSIBLY I WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THE ENGINEERS.
THERE WOULD BE AVAILABILITY OF WATER AND SEWER, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S ALL DESIGNED.
AND THEN MY PARTICULAR AREA THAT WHAT I OWN, I OWN ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE THERE.
UH, THERE'S A WATER PROBLEM, WATER DRAINAGE PROBLEM.
I MEAN, IT'S EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, I'M THE ONE THAT HAS ALL THE WATER IN THE LAWN ON THE FRONT LAWN.
AND SO, UM, THERE'S DRAINAGE ISSUES ALL THE TIME.
AND SO THERE, I THINK YOU JUST RECENTLY APPROVED A OR ODOT UH, A UH, ROUNDABOUT RIGHT THERE.
AND SO I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT DRAINAGE? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT CHANGING SOME, SOME ISSUES OUT THERE WITH WATER? AND SO, UH, I HAVE THAT SAME QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS.
IF YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING ACROSS THE STREET, WHAT CAN WE SURMISE FROM YOU ABOUT WHAT KIND OF WATER SUPPLY WATER DRAIN OFF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE OVER THERE? WELL, THE, THE ROUNDABOUT PROJECT WE'RE, WE'RE REFERRING TO THAT IS AN ODOT PROJECT, NOT A SAFE PROJECT.
BUT I MEAN, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA START BUILDING OVER THERE, RIGHT? YOU'RE GONNA ALLOW BUILDING, THIS IS THE ZONING.
SO IF AND WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
UH, WE CAN'T ALLOW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD GENERATE MORE WATER TO GO OFF THEIR SITE.
EVERYTHING THEY GENERATE HAS TO BE RETAINED FOR 24 HOURS FROM QUANTITY AND QUALITY.
UH, SO THE PRE AND POST DEVELOPMENT SHOULDN'T CHANGE FROM WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING.
TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS USE DEVELOPMENT TO HELP ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE AREA WITH, IN TERMS OF UTILITIES.
SO IT'S, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT BY DOING THIS PROJECT, IT COULD BETTER YOUR SITUATION, BUT I CAN'T SIT HERE, SIT HERE RIGHT NOW AND GUARANTEE THAT.
IT'S JUST ONCE WE ENGAGE WITH ENGINEERS OR THE DEVELOPER ENGAGES WITH ENGINEERS, WE'LL HAVE BETTER, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.
'CAUSE I, I KNOW THAT ON 6 65, JUST GOING WEST OF MY RESIDENCE, THERE'S A MAJOR DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT GOES TOWARDS WACO THERE.
AND, UH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING US TO GET DRAIN OFF, BUT IT'S, FOR ME PERSONALLY AND MY NEIGHBOR NOW, IT'S NOT REALLY WORKING.
SO I'D LOVE TO MOVE PROCESS THAT HOPEFULLY WITH, WITH THE STATE PROJECT IT IMPROVES AS WELL.
HOPEFULLY WITH THE STATE ROUNDABOUT PROJECT THAT IMPROVES AS WELL.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION? SEEING NONE.
IT'S BEEN A LONG NOT FOR YEARS.
IT HAS BEEN A LONG MEETING DAY.
CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVE.
ITEM NINE, SOUTHWEST GATEWAY INNOVATION DISTRICT REZONING SECOND.
WITH THAT