Oct 19, 2026 City Council

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

OH, UH, BRADLEY BLUMEN, UH, 7 4 9 8 SANS BOULEVARD.

WORTHINGTON.

I'M THE DESIGN ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.

UH, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE, UH, APPROVED DESIGN FROM EARLIER THIS YEAR.

UM, THE OWNER AND THE, UH, ARCHITECT OF RECORD WANTED TO MAKE A FEW MATERIAL CHANGES.

WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY OF THE MASSING, UH, ANY OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED.

THIS IS JUST A FENESTRATION AND MATERIAL CHANGE TO THE EXTERIOR.

UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. FOR BRADLEY? NO.

UM, KYLE ROUSH, DID YOU HAVE ANY, OKAY.

SO BASICALLY THIS IS JUST, UH, AN UPDATE TO THE FACADE, SOME OF THE MATERIALS ON THE OUTSIDE TO MAKE IT LOOK EVEN PRETTIER.

YES, YES.

UM, I DO KNOW DURING PLANNING COMMISSION THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO, UM, MAYBE ADDING SOME TYPE OF, DESIGNING THE SIGN ABOUT LIKE A PUPPY OR THE DOG ART.

UH, THAT'LL BE A SEPARATE SUBMISSION.

TO APPROVE A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR BJ'S WHOLESALE

AND JUST CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM ON THAT.

THIS RESOLUTION HAS ITS HEAD, ITS PUBLIC HEARING.

I MOVE IT BE APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, THE NEXT IS THE RESOLUTION CR 42 26

[Resolution CR-42-26 Approve the Preliminary Development Plan for BJ’s Wholesale located at 1209, 1213, and 1255 Stringtown Road. ]

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LOCATED AT 12 0 9, 12 13, AND 1255 STRING TOWN ROAD.

THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THREE STIPULATIONS LISTED.

I DON'T, DO WE HAVE THOSE, TAMMY? NO, MA'AM.

OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND READ THEM.

THE APPLICANT SHALL CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF REGARDING THE LAMPLIGHTER DRIVE EXTENSION ALONG THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE SITE.

NUMBER TWO, REVISED RENDERINGS SHALL BE SUBMITTED WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS SHALL BE SET IN THE ZONING TEXT TO ENSURE HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURE ON ALL STRUCTURES AND CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF DURING THE REZONING AND FINAL FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATIONS REGARDING THE DESIGN OF THE FUTURE OUT PARCEL ALONG STRING TOWN ROAD TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE CHARACTER WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA AND FUTURE LAND USE GOALS.

WITH THAT, UM, WE HAVE A, UM, WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR THIS, AND THE FIRST IS THE APPLICANT, REBECCA MOTT AND I GOT AND RANDY COHEN.

HI, UM, I'M RANDY COHEN.

I'M THE MANAGER OF SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR BJ'S.

AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT BJ'S BEFORE REBECCA TALKS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 267 CLUBS IN 22 STATES.

UM, THERE ARE EIGHT CLUBS IN OHIO RIGHT NOW, TWO IN THE COLUMBUS AREA, AND WE HAVE AN ANNUAL NET SALES OF APPROXIMATELY 21 BILLION.

WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT 35,000 EMPLOYEES COMPANY-WIDE, PLUS OR MINUS 130 PER CLUB.

UM, OUR CLUB HOURS ARE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 9:00 AM TO 10:00 PM FOR THE CLUB, 9:00 AM TO 8:00 PM FOR OUR FUEL STATION, UM, AND THEN SUNDAYS TILL 8:00 PM AS WELL.

UM, SOME OF THE PRODUCTS WE SELL IN OUR CLUBS ARE OBVIOUSLY GROCERIES, UM, OPTICAL ELECTRONICS, HOME GOODS, CLOTHING, TIRES.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A PROPANE FILLING STATION ON SITE.

UH, BJ'S IS A VERY CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION.

WE'VE DONATED OVER $43 MILLION SINCE WE STARTED IN 1984.

AND THEN IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY SPECIFIC BJ'S QUESTIONS, I'D LOVE TO ANSWER THEM, BUT REBECCA WILL PRESENT THE PROJECT.

I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU LATER.

I I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE CHARITABLE GIVING.

UM, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANYTHING YOU CAN SPEAK TO ABOUT THE CHARITABLE GIVING THAT'S ALREADY OCCURRED IN OHIO OR BETTER, UM, IN COLUMBUS WITH THE TWO LOCATIONS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE? WELL, EVERY ONE OF OUR CLUBS, WE, WE PICK A LOCAL NONPROFIT TO DONATE TO, AND WE ALSO PICK A LOCAL SCHOOL AND WE SORT OF ADOPT THAT SCHOOL.

SO WE'LL DO THE SAME HERE FOR THIS PROJECT.

AN OUT PARCEL IN THE FUTURE, IT WILL NEED A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO COME THROUGH THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

CAN I GET A NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS REBECCA MOTT WITH THE PLANK LAW FIRM WITH AN OFFICE ADDRESS OF FOUR 11 EAST TOWN STREET, COLUMBUS, OHIO.

THE PROJECT SITE IS AROUND 18 ACRES.

THERE'S FOUR PARCELS.

THREE OF THE PARCELS, UM, ARE IN THE TOWNSHIP.

SO WE WILL BE ANNEXING THOSE PARCELS INTO THE CITY OF GROVE CITY.

THE THIRD PARCEL OR THE FOURTH PARCEL THAT'S ALREADY IN GROVE CITY IS THAT CHURCH PARCEL.

WE WILL BE DOING A LOT SPLIT FOR THAT REAR PORTION OF THE CHURCH PARCEL, AND WE'LL COMBINE THAT WITH THE OTHER PARCELS.

TO COMBINE THE PROPERTY INTO AN 18 ACRE SITE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 104,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING TO THE REAR.

THAT'S FOR THE BJ'S WHOLESALE BUILDING.

WE WILL HAVE A 400 SQUARE FOOT KIOSK FOR THE GAS STATION UP FRONT ALONG STREAM TOWN ROAD.

AND THERE WILL BE FOUR ACCESS POINTS, OR I'M SORRY, THREE ACCESS POINTS, TWO ON STRING TOWN ROAD AND ONE ON STATE ROUTE 1 0 4.

THE ACCESS A ON THE FAR LEFT SIDE OR WEST SIDE OF THE FRONTAGE WILL BE A FULL CURB CUT ACCESS POINT.

SO LEFT TURN AND RIGHT TURN.

THE OTHER ONE ALONG STREET TOWN ROAD IS A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY.

AND THEN THE ONE ON STATE ROUTE 1 0 4 IS ALSO RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT FOR THE GAS STATION.

WE HAVE NINE PUMPS.

SO 18 SERVICE STATIONS DOUBLE-SIDED.

WE HAVE SHOWN HERE ON THE PLAN AROUND 525 PARKING SPACES.

AND IN OUR ZONING TEXT, WE DO HAVE A MAXIMUM STATED PARKING SPACES OF 550 AND A MINIMUM OF 348.

SO THESE SPACES WILL MEET OUR OPERATIONAL NEEDS.

WE DO SHOW ON THE PLAN, UM, AN AREA OUT FRONT ON THE WEST THAT IS, IT COULD BE AN OUT PARCEL FOR A FUTURE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THROUGH OR A RETAIL STATION OR RETAIL BUILDING, OR WE COULD USE IT FOR OUR PARKING.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING IT AS PARKING.

SO WE NEED THAT FLEXIBILITY JUST IN CASE IT WON'T BE COMING OUT PARCEL, BUT IF IT WOULD BE

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AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU.

WE DO ALREADY HAVE OUR ZONING TEXTS THAT WE SUBMITTED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.

SO THAT, THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET.

IT GOES THROUGH THE PERMITTED USES, THE ACCESS POINTS, THE LANDSCAPING, THE SCREENING, UM, THE FRONT ENTRANCE FEATURES AS WELL AS STORMWATER, UM, DESIGN MATTERS.

WE ALSO HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE DUE DURING THE REZONING PROCESS.

SO COMING AFTER THIS IS THE REZONING PROCESS, THE ANNEXATION AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

BUT IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, OUR CONCLUSIONS HAVE NOTED THERE WILL BE A TURNING LANE THAT WE WILL ADD TO STRING TOWN ROAD FOR ACCESS A, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 175 FEET, THE NEAR FEET TO TAKE THAT.

RIGHT.

IN TURN, WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER TURNING IN LANE AT ACCESS B THAT'S CLOSER TO STRING TOWN AND 1 0 4, I THINK THAT'S 150 FEET IN LINEAR FEET.

WE HAVE ANOTHER RIGHT IN TURN LANE THAT WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO IMPROVE ON STATE ROUTE 1 0 4.

SO THAT IS SHOWN IN OUR PLANS.

AND LASTLY, OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY DOES INDICATE WE NEED TO MAKE A MONETARY CONTRIBUTION TO ODOT FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN THE FUTURE AT THE INTERSECTION OF STATE ROUTE 1 0 4 AND WHITE ROAD.

SO WE WILL BE DOING ALL OF THAT.

UM, FOR LANDSCAPING TREATMENTS, WE ARE DOING A THREE FOOT MOUND ALONG STRING TOWN ROAD WITH DECIDUOUS TREES AND EVERGREEN TREES ON THE MOUND.

YOUR TIME'S UP? MAY I HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE? NO, YOUR TIME'S UP.

THAT'S FINE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? SOMEBODY'S GOT A QUESTION IF I DO, I HAVE QUESTIONS.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTION, THEN YOU CAN CONTINUE MM-HMM .

UM, THANK YOU.

I KNOW THIS IS OF A LOT.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE JOBS PROJECTED? I KNOW THAT MR. COHEN MENTIONED JOBS LIKE 130 APPROXIMATELY PER LOCATION.

CAN YOU TALK TO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? YES.

THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 130 EMPLOYEES, 50% FULL-TIME, 50% PART-TIME.

THE EXPECTED WAGES ARE 3 MILLION TO 4 MILLION, AND THE INCOME TAX REVENUE IS ESTIMATED TO BE AROUND 60,000 TO 80,000 ANNUALLY.

AND THIS USE HELPS SUPPORT THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOAL IN JOB RETENTION, CREATION AND ATTRACTION.

AND THEN ALSO DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WAS SOME REFERENCE, AND I, I KNOW A LOT OF THESE THINGS WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE REZONING AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FORTHCOMING, UM, ABOUT SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BUILDING, UM, ROOF PITCH.

CAN YOU TALK, HAVE THOSE BEEN UPGRADE? I KNOW I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE WEBSITE UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IMPROVEMENT TO THIS CONCEPT? YES.

UM, ACTUALLY I HAVE A LARGER BOARD.

WE DID SUBMIT, OR ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SUBMIT THIS BEFORE THE MATERIALS, THE, THE REVISED MATERIALS DUE DATE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY DID NOT HAVE THIS ELEVATION.

SO THIS IS OUR REVISED ELEVATION.

WHAT IT HAS DONE IS WE'RE SHOWING MORE BRICK ON THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING.

SO THERE WILL BE BRICK ALONG THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE BUILDING FROM THE FRONT TO THE REAR AND THE SIDES.

WE ALSO HAVE BROKEN UP THE BUILDING MASS A BIT.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S COLUMNS AND BUMP INS AND BUMP OUTS ON THE COLUMNS.

AND THE BUMP IN BUMP OUTS.

THOSE ARE ALSO BRICK.

YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE WITH THE COLOR.

YOU KNOW, THE COLORS ARE KIND OF SIMILAR, BUT THOSE ARE BRICK STRUCTURES.

WE ALSO HAVE THE PORTICO OR THE ROOF PITCH ALONG THE FRONT ENTRANCE TO ALSO HELP BREAK UP THE BUILDING MASS.

SO WE HAVE MADE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT BEFORE WE SUBMIT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ENSURE WE'VE CAPTURED THEIR COMMENTS.

AND MY, ONE MORE, ONE MORE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, MS. MRS. MOTT IS THE OUT PARCEL.

I KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT IN THIS DESIGN.

UM, WILL THAT BE BILLED OUT PARKING LOT AT THIS TIME WITH THOSE 525? ARE YOU GONNA LEAVE THAT NOT TOUCHED? IT WOULD BE DEPEND.

IF BJ'S GETS TO THE POINT OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHERE THEY THINK THEY NEED THE SPACES, THEY WILL SHOW THEM AS PARKING SPACES AND COULD CONSTRUCT THOSE AS SPACES IN THE FUTURE.

HOWEVER, EVEN IF THEY SUBMIT A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWING IT AS PARKING SPACES, THEY COULD CHANGE THEIR MIND.

THEY COULD DO A LOT SPLIT FOR THE OUT PARCEL, SELL THAT OFF OR JUST LEASE IT.

AND THEY COULD CERTAINLY COME IN WITH ANOTHER FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BEFORE CONSTRUCTION FOR A RETAIL BUILDING OR RESTAURANT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

MS. ANDERSON.

YES, I HAVE SOME THANK YOU.

I HAVE

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SOME QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHTS AND TRAFFIC AND, UM, CAN YOU JUST RE-EXPLAIN THE, UM, STRING TOWN ROAD ENTRANCE DID YOU SAY? IS THERE A LIGHT THERE? THERE WILL NOT BE A LIGHT.

WE'RE NOT INCLUDING A LIGHT MM-HMM .

AT THE INTERSECTION OF 1 0 4 IN STREAM TOWN.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES AND ONE ENTRANCE WILL HAVE MAYBE THE CEMENT KIND OF, UM, ISLAND.

SO YOU CAN ONLY GO IN OR OUT ONE WAY.

BUT AT THE FURTHER WEST, UM, EGRESS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE A, A TURN LEFT TO GO WEST.

CORRECT.

AND THAT'S A STOP BAR.

THAT'S NOT A LIGHT.

UM, AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT INDICATE THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A LIGHT TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF TURNS.

IT IS NOT WARRANTED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT TO ADD A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAN WHAT WAS LISTED ON PAGE 31.

THE CONCLUSIONS.

AND IT IS 138 PAGE REPORT MM-HMM .

WITH EXISTING TRAFFIC PATTERNS COUNTED AS WELL AS THE FORECASTED BUILD ENVIRONMENT.

FORECASTED FUTURE TRAFFIC BASED ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I WOULD BE CURIOUS JUST IN WANTING TO UNDERSTAND IF, IF WE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR, UM, THINGS FROM OUR CURRENT, THE GROVE CITY HOSPITAL AND THE CHURCH THAT'S THERE ON, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC PATTERN AND PEOPLE MAKING THOSE LEFTS AND, UM, I THINK IN MY PERSPECTIVE, A LIGHT IS WARRANTED NOW BRINGING SOMETHING ELSE DOWN THERE.

BUT, UM, OKAY.

SO THEN LET'S ALSO WILL SANDERSON YEAH, WE DO HAVE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE.

HE CAN TESTIFY TO THE EXISTING TRAFFIC PATTERNS MM-HMM .

THAT ARE, WOULD BE WARRANT IN TERMS OF WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE WARRANTED TODAY THAT WOULD BE A CITY RESPONSIBILITY THAT ARE NOT WARRANTED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC COUNTS TONIGHT? DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO AT THIS POINT DEVELOPMENT PLAN? OKAY.

I'M OKAY.

LET'S KEEP MOVING ON TO MY OTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, BECAUSE A, A LIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT I PARTICULARLY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, BUT, UM, THAT IS ME.

SO, UM, YOU MENTIONED THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY ABOUT AN OOC CONTRIBUTION FOR THE RED LIGHT AT WHITE ROAD N 1 0 4.

AND I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS TO KIND OF CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YOU ANSWERING THAT OR KYLE, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE, UM, DISCUSSIONS HAVE.

WELL, SORRY, THE STIPULATION IS ABOUT LAMPLIGHTER.

THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION.

I AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN OR WHAT THAT MEANS ABOUT AN OOC CONTRIBUTION FOR A LIGHT AT WHITE ROAD.

BECAUSE I THINK FOR ME TO, UM, UH, FEEL THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT COMING DOWN TO THAT AREA OF TOWN, I ALREADY KNOW WHAT WHITE ROAD AND 1 0 4 IS LIKE I AM THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR WARD FOUR, WHICH IS THAT AREA.

SO I DEFINITELY AM VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.

SURE.

AND, UM, I, I'M SURE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ODOT DIRECTLY, BUT THEY DEFINITELY SUBMITTED THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO ODOT AND THE CITY.

SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE APPROVED BY BOTH OF THOSE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.

IN ADDITION, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO ODOT, UM, DEPARTMENT SIX TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR RIGHT OF WAY PLANS ARE FOR THIS AREA MM-HMM .

BEFORE OUR DEVELOPMENT WAS EVEN PROJECTED.

SO I, I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THE AREA.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING LIKE AN OOC CONTRIBUTION? WELL, I WOULD ASSUME ODOT WOULD NEED US TO SPEND MONIES PROBABLY DURING SITE IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROCESS OKAY.

DURING ENGINEERING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, YOU REMIT THE PAYMENT TECHNICALLY, BUT I'M SURE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S HAP THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

ANYTHING MORE ON TO ADD TO THAT, KYLE, OR, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S PRELIMINARY, SO YOU MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE ANYWAYS.

, UH, YEAH, JUST TO KIND OF LEVEL SET, THIS IS A PLUMBER TO VOTE PLAN.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AND ALSO THE GENERAL CONCEPT.

THEY, THEY SET FORTH FOR THE SITE.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS NEED TO BE HAD ON TRAFFIC ON ROADS.

UH, ON OUR, OUR THOROUGHFARE MAP, WHICH WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2024 MM-HMM .

THERE'S A ROAD SHOWING NORTH SOUTH ROAD SHOWING ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THEIR SITE ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE OHIO HEALTH SITE.

MM.

SO IN OUR MIND, THAT'S WHERE A TRAFFIC LIGHT WOULD GO.

BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS, EXCUSE ME, WITH OHIO HEALTH, WITH THE APPLICANT, WITH THE CHURCH TO SEE HOW THAT ALL WORKS TOGETHER.

AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY CONNECT TO LAMPLIGHTER DRIVE? CORRECT.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY LAMPLIGHT LAMPLIGHTER DRIVE.

SO LONG TERM WE SEE A LIGHT AT BUCKEYE AND LAMPLIGHTER AND A LIGHT AT STRING TOWN AND LAMPLIGHTER, UH, AT MINIMUM.

SO, UH, BUT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TIME AND WE DO HAVE TIME THROUGH THE PROCESS TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

WE'VE ALREADY ENGAGED WITH OHIO HEALTH MM-HMM .

UH, BRIEFLY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

SO WE KNOW THERE'S INTEREST.

WE JUST NEED TIME TO DO THE, TO, TO DO THE WORK.

SO IF THIS PLAN PROGRESSES, WE WILL START THAT, UH, DIALOGUE.

UM, AND THEN ONE OTHER

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QUESTION.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THIS 104,000 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT FOR THE BUILDING COMPARES TO THE TWO OTHERS IN COLUMBUS.

IS THIS ON THE SAME SCALE OR IS THIS SMALLER, MEDIUM, LARGER? THAT'D BE MORE, I, I ASSUME IT'S THE SAME SIZE, BUT THAT'S A MORE TYPICAL FOOTPRINT.

IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME AS THE OTHER LOCATIONS AROUND COLUMBUS.

I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

MR. HOLT, UH, REBECCA OR SOMEBODY, UM, THE HVAC UNITS ON THE ROOF, ARE THOSE SCREENED ON ALL FOUR SIDES OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YES, WE'RE REQUIRED TO SCREEN ALL SERVICE STRUCTURES AND EQUIPMENT, WHETHER IT'S ON THE ROOF OR GROUND.

IS THAT GOOD? THIS IS AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS LIKE A FUTURE LAMPLIGHTER EXTENSION IN CASE YOU WANTED TO HAVE A VISUAL OF AN AERIAL VIEW.

MR. HOLT, WAS THAT THE ONLY QUESTION YOU HAD? MM-HMM .

MR. OMAR? YEAH, I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

UH, I WAS READING SOMEWHERE, I THINK IT WAS IN THE STAFF COMMENTS, BUT I INITIALLY SAW THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDED, I BELIEVE IT WAS 350 PARKING SPACES.

AND THIS PLAN HAS ABOUT 500.

CAN YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INCREASE? UM, WE DIDN'T INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SPACES.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPERATIONAL NEED FOR BJ'S WHERE WE ARE SAYING WE NEED A MINIMUM OF THREE 50 AND A MAXIMUM OF FIVE 50, BUT WHAT WE'RE SHOWN IS AROUND 5 22.

AND THAT IS LEGITIMATE FOR OUR OPERATIONS.

SO WE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT NUMBER.

WE THINK WE'RE GONNA STAY WITH THAT NUMBER THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

SO WE'D LIKE THE CITY TO WORK WITH US ON THAT NUMBER.

AND THEN YOU ALSO MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY OF A RESTAURANT COMING IN DRIVE THROUGH.

HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WOULD THAT GET RID OF IF THAT WAS TO COME THROUGH? YES.

IN OUR ZONING TEXT, WE HAVE ALLOCATED HOW MANY PARKING SPACES A RETAIL RESTAURANT WOULD NEED.

AND IT'S BY YOUR CODE STANDARDS.

I THINK IT'S 51 SPACE PER 50 SQUARE FEET FOR EVERY DINING AREA AND PATIO SPACE, EXCLUDING KITCHEN AREA.

SO THAT'S HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THE RETAIL RESTAURANT WOULD NEED, AND WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THOSE.

I WAS ABLE TO ASK MOST OF MY QUESTIONS DURING OUR MEETING.

UM, I DID EXPRESS SOME OF MY CONCERNS IN REGARDS TO TRAFFIC.

I TAKE THAT ROAD HOME DOWN TURN ON WHITE ROAD ALL THE WAY TO MCDOWELL.

UM, AND THE TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS BAD, ESPECIALLY AROUND FOUR OR FIVE.

UM, SO I, I, I DEFINITELY AM TRYING TO SEE THE POSITIVE IN THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE.

UM, BUT EVEN JUST LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC REPORT, AND I, TO BE HONEST, I HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO FULLY LOOK IN DEPTH.

IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING PAGES.

BUT IN THE CONCLUSION PAGE, I WAS TRYING TO JUST SEE WHAT TRAFFIC LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

AND I KNOW WE KIND OF JUMPED OVER THIS, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TRAFFIC LOOKS LIKE TODAY, BECAUSE IN THIS CONCLUSION PAGE THAT YOU PROVIDED, IT ONLY GIVES US A NUMBER FOR PROJECTIONS IN 2047.

AND I, I HAVE AN IDEA JUST BY LIVING HERE AND, AND DRIVING ON THAT ROAD QUITE OFTEN, WHAT TRAFFIC FEELS LIKE RIGHT.

TO BE STANDING AT THAT LIGHT FOR SOMETIMES 10, 15 MINUTES.

UM, SO COMPARED TO WHAT TRAFFIC LOOKS LIKE TODAY AND HOW YOU ALL ARE PROJECTING IN 2047, THAT A A M PEAK OF 2,462 VEHICLES, IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THE COMPARISON IS, IF YOU CAN HAVE THE TRAFFIC.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COME UP JACOB, TALK ABOUT THAT.

I DID FORGET TO MENTION WE HAVE A COMMITMENT IN THE CONCLUSIONS TO DO A RIGHT TURN ARROW AT STRING TOWN IN 1 0 4.

SO THERE MIGHT BE MORE CONTINUOUS TURNS WITH A GREEN ARROW GOING.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'LL HELP WITH TRAFFIC.

MR. OR JACOB, WE JUST NEED TO REMEMBER THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN AND WE'RE NOT APPROVING AN ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT HERE.

I I, YEAH.

I UNDERSTAND.

THERE'S JUST A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON DEVELOPMENT COMING IN AND TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, NAME AND RECORD NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YEAH, JACOB CAMPBELL FROM KIMMY HORN ADDRESSES 7 9 6 5 NORTH HIGH STREET, SUITE 200, COLUMBUS, OHIO, 4 3 2 3 5.

IMPACT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SO BEFORE THE TRAFFIC STUDY BEGAN, WE COLLECTED EXISTING TRAFFIC COUNTS AT ALL STUDY INTERSECTIONS.

THE STUDY INTERSECTIONS WERE DETERMINED DURING THE MOU STAGE WITH THE CITY AND WITH OOC, WE COLLECTED THOSE COUNTS OURSELVES AND THEN COORDINATED FOR A GROWTH RATE.

SO SENT THIS TO THE MID, MID OHIO REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION, OBTAINED A GROWTH RATE AND APPLIED THAT OVER 20 PLUS YEARS TO GET TO THE 2047, WHAT WE WOULD CALL A NO BUILD CONDITION, AND THEN GENERATED TRIPS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND STACK THEM ON TOP OF THE NO BUILD CONDITION TO SEE THE

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THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? UH, NOT REALLY , I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU ALL PUT INTO THIS PROJECTION FOR 2047, HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT TRAFFIC LOOKS LIKE TODAY? 2047 WOULD BE HIGHER THAN TODAY WITH BACKGROUND GROWTH.

AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE PAGE WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE GROWTH WEIGHT WOULD BE.

IT'D BE PAGE NINE WILL TELL YOU THE LINEAR ANNUAL GROWTH FOR EVERY ROADWAY WITHIN THE NETWORK THAT WAS STUDIED.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT SAYS 2.5%, YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY THE NUMBER OF YEARS FROM NOW TO 2047, THAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE OF GROWTH THAT WAS ADDED IN THE STUDY.

AND MR. OMAR, NORMALLY WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY AT THIS POINT.

UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF AN INSIGHT SITE.

'CAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET THIS UNTIL YEAH.

LATER IN THE PROCESS.

I, I MEAN, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE, BUT IT IS GOOD TO HAVE AND THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING IT.

'CAUSE NOW I HAVE QUESTIONS, RIGHT.

SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN FRONT OF ME.

UM, AND I'M SURE THE PUBLIC IS ALSO PROBABLY THINKING THE SAME THING.

UH, I, ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAD, YOU KNOW, WITH TRAFFIC IS THERE WILL BE A LEFT TURN ONTO STRING TOWN.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND THERE WILL NOT BE A SIGNAL THERE, IT'LL BE A STOP SIGN.

CORRECT.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF STRING TOWN WHERE I, I WATCH VEHICLES TURNING FROM THE FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD TRYING TO COME LEFT, UM, OFTENTIMES WHERE IT'LL LEAD TO ACCIDENTS AND AND WHATNOT.

SO WALK ME THROUGH THAT RIGHT THERE, THAT STOP SIGN.

HOW, HOW DID YOU ALL DETERMINE SURE.

THAT A STOP SIGN THERE WOULD BE THE BEST? SO WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE WOULD FOLLOW, UM, THE CITIES AND ODOS GUIDELINES TO MEET WHAT WE CALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS.

AND WE COLLECTED 24 HOUR ACCOUNTS AND YOU ADD THE TRIPS GENERATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE COUNTS AND COMPARE THAT OVER 24 HOURS TO SEE IF WARRANT THRESHOLDS ARE MET.

FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THOSE THRESHOLDS ARE NOT MET.

SO IT DOES NOT MEET THE BASE SIGNAL WARRANT THRESHOLDS AS DEFINED BY ODOT.

AND FOR, SO THAT'S THE FIRST ENTRY POINT.

LET'S START AT THE STOP SIGN.

LET'S MAKE OUR WAY AROUND AT THE SECOND ONE THERE.

VEHICLES WILL BE ALLOWED TO TURN RIGHT INTO THE PARKING LOT AND VEHICLES WILL BE ALLOWED TO TURN RIGHT OUT.

WILL THERE BE SOME SORT OF MEDIAN, LIKE HOW ARE WE GOING TO PREVENT VEHICLES FROM BEING ABLE TO TURN INTO THE PARKING LOT FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE? YOU WANT HIS PHONE? THERE'S AN ISLAND OR MEDIA OR ISLAND? IS THAT THE RIGHT TERM? OKAY.

HI THERE.

BILL SKIBA, ALSO WITH KIMLEY HORN.

7 9 6 5 NORTH HIGH STREET.

I'M THE, UH, SITE ENGINEER.

WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE CITY OF GROVE CITY STANDARD DETAILS AS IT RELATES FOR ANY SORT OF PORK CHOP OR CONCRETE MEDIAN.

WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE CITY GUIDANCE THERE FOR THAT.

I THINK JUST TO ADD TO THAT TOO, I THINK WE HAVE SEEN OPPORTUNITIES WHERE MAYBE PORK CHOPPER, HOWEVER YOU CALLED IT, WAS PUT.

AND I THINK WHAT THE CITY WILL NEED TO DO IS ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, TOWNSHIP AND FIRE AND, UM, FIRE GETTING IN AND OUT IF THAT'S RIGHT, KYLE.

'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WERE BUSINESSES DOWN ON HOOVER THAT THAT KIND OF MEDIAN HAD TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE OF FIRETRUCK ACCESS THE DAYCARE.

SO AS MUCH AS WE WANT IT AND ASK FOR IT, I THINK THAT'S A CONCERN IF IT THEN CAN'T HAPPEN.

AND THEN WE HAVE TWO EGRESSES THERE THAT ARE BOTH JUST, SORRY, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE STRING TOWN ROAD MM-HMM .

THE ENTRANCE EXIT THAT IS FURTHER EAST THAT MR. OMAR WAS REFERENCING.

I THINK THAT SHOWS TO HAVE MAYBE LIKE AN ISLAND OR MAYBE I'M JUST THINKING I VISUALIZE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A SPECIFIC ONLY IN THIS WAY AND ONLY OUT THAT WAY.

BUT IS THAT NOT THE CASE ON THAT ONE? ARE BOTH OF THEM THE SAME? WELL, AGAIN, THIS IS PRELIMINARY, I'M SURE.

I'M ASSUMING THESE ARE PRELIMINARY MM-HMM .

UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED THESE PLANS.

RIGHT.

SO IT, IT'S A, AGAIN, WE WILL GET MORE INTO THE DETAILS AS WE GO ALONG WITH THIS PROJECT.

UH, THIS IS STILL CONCEPTUAL, UM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE TRAFFIC STUDY HASN'T EVEN BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR ENGINEERING FIRM YET.

SO THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS VERY, VERY PRELIMINARY.

UH, THERE'S MADE REFERENCE TO IT, A DEVELOPMENT TEXT THAT WAS SUBMITTED THAT'S ALSO VERY PRELIMINARY.

ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING HAVING RIGHT NOW SHOULD BE THE DEVELOP ASSAULT, BECAUSE THE MINUTE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE THE THOROUGHFARE ROAD GOING THROUGH THE SITE, WE'RE GONNA START SHIFTING PARKING LOT SPACES, SHIFTING STUFF THAT WILL IMPACT CURB CUTS.

I THINK EVERYONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

UH, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS.

WE NEED THE TIME.

UH, BUT THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC BECAUSE

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SO HOW DO WE GO FROM NOW TO HOPEFULLY A, A, A GOOD PROJECT IN THE FUTURE WHERE WE DO HAVE A NEW ROADWAY, UH, WHERE WE DO HAVE SAFE INGRESS, EGRESS, UH, SO EVERYONE'S KIND OF MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL IN THE, IN THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU MR. RAUSER.

I KNOW THOSE, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S JUST VERY CURIOUS OF HOW THIS IS ALL GONNA PLAY OUT.

SO ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE, I KNOW THERE'S A, THERE'S A CREEK SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, WATER FEATURES THAT ARE DOWN BELOW.

CAN YOU TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROTECTIONS THAT WOULD BE PLANNED FOR THAT? YES.

THERE IS A STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT REALLY THICK, BOLD LINE IS A RETAINING WALL.

AND WE WILL BE ENCROACHING IN THAT STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE, I THINK BY 38 FEET.

SO UNDER THE STORMWATER DESIGN MANUAL FOR THE CITY OF GROVE CITY, THERE IS A, A VARIANCE PROCESS UNDER SECTION 1.3.

WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THAT.

WE THINK WE CAN GET THAT DONE THROUGH THE CITY IN TERMS OF THAT SMALL ENCROACHMENT.

BUT, UM, WE WILL BE PRESERVING THE WOODLANDS IN THE STREAM.

AND IT WON'T BE IN THE STREAMWAY, IT'LL BE IN THE STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE, WHICH IS LIKE 50 FEET.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE GONNA BE PRESERVING THAT AREA.

A COMMENT IF WE COULD YES, MAYOR MADAM CHAIR.

UH, FIRST MR. COHEN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

THANKS FOR BRINGING ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO RETAIL, UH, IN, INTO OUR AREA.

AND, AND, UM, THE, THE, THE AMOUNT OF WORK, I MEAN, JUST WHAT YOU FOLKS HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, UH, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS NOW, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS AND JUST GETTING QUEUED UP TO THIS POINT.

AND I WANNA REITERATE WHAT MARRO AND MS. BURROW SAID IN OUR CAUCUS, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE TOLD THAT WE DO THINGS SECRETIVE AND ALL THAT, THAT THESE KIND OF NEGOTIATIONS BECAUSE OF THE DETAIL, THEY'RE NOT MADE IN A, IN A CLOSED ROOM AND A, AND SMOKE AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN RUMORED IN THE PAST.

THEY'RE MADE IN PIECES AS WE GET PIECES AND AS WE SEND THE, THE TEST BALLOON UP TO SEE AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

BUT IT IS A TEDIOUS OPERATION.

AND THIS, AS FAR AS, UH, THE TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, WE HAD AN ANNEXATION REQUEST THAT IS IN PROCESS.

AND WE HAVE THIS AS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND THIS IS PRIMARILY THE SECOND STEP.

AND IF WE NEED TO CHANGE ZONING OR MAKE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS, WE DO THAT AS WE GO.

BUT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT STEP, GIVES PUBLIC INPUT.

ANYBODY COULD HAVE SPOKE ON THIS TONIGHT AND WE JUST APPRECIATE HAVING OUR GUEST HERE AND, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL RETAIL.

UM, NEXT ON THE LIST IS BILL TIBA WAS, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD? OKAY, YOU'RE GOOD.

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WOULD NEVER APPROVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ALSO, TYLER ABRAM, IF YOU WANNA STEP UP TO THE PODIUM WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS TYLER ABRAM AT 41 96 JACKSON PIKE IN GROVE CITY.

JUST A COUPLE LOTS DOWN ON THE EAST SIDE OF 1 0 4 IN THE HOME.

SEVERAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE 2050 PLAN THAT WAS PASSED IN JANUARY OF 2018.

AS I READ THROUGH IT, AND I'VE GONE THROUGH IT NUMEROUS TIMES, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT MEETS ANY OF THE REAL GOALS THAT ARE DEFINED IN THIS MIXED USE EMPLOYMENT CENTER ZONING THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE FOR THAT ENTIRE AREA, UH, WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

AND AS THEY WENT THROUGH, PRETTY MUCH JUST RUBBER STAMPED IT AND SAID, HERE, SEND IT TO COUNCIL AND MOVE ON WITH IT.

THERE WASN'T A LOT OF REAL DISCUSSION ON HOW IT IMPACTS THIS PLAN AND THE LOCAL SURROUNDING AREAS.

UM, SPECIFICALLY MY HOME, I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS IS GONNA HELP ANYTHING VALUABLE ADDING VALUE TO MY HOME OTHER THAN CREATING MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE CONGESTION AND DANGER.

UM, I CAN GO THROUGH THE, UH, I GOT A MINUTE 52.

I'LL TRY AND I DON'T WANNA QUOTE EVERYTHING IN YOUR MIS MIXED EMPLOYMENT CENTER ZONING, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T REFLECT A GAS STATION.

IT DOESN'T REFLECT, UH, WHAT THIS PLAN SHOWS.

THERE'S NO PARKS OR WALKWAYS OR BIKE PATHS OR INTERACTION AMONG THE, UH, SURROUNDING AREAS TO WHAT THIS DESCRIBES.

I REALLY HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH THAT.

UM, ACCESS ONTO 1 0 4 IS ALREADY HORRENDOUS.

AND PUTTING IN A WRITE IN, WRITE OUT ONLY AT THAT LOCATION, I TALKED TO THE

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BUT IT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ALREADY WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THAT STUDY WENT TO THE STATE, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WAS SUPPOSED TO REVIEW IT AND GET BACK TO THE CITY ABOUT THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TAKING PLACE OR NOT, BUT IT'S ALREADY JUST A DISASTER AREA OUT THERE TRYING TO GET UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD.

WHEN I TURN OFF A STRING TOWN AND GO SOUTH ON 1 0 4 TO GET TO MY HOME, I GOTTA HIT IT AND GO.

AND I ALREADY HAVE TO HAVE MY LEFT TURN SIGNAL ON TO GET IN MY DRIVEWAY SO I DON'T GET PUSHED OFF THE ROAD OR HIT.

AND IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S, UH, OVERALL PRETTY AGGRESSIVE EXPECTATIONS TO PUT THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY GAS STATION ON A CORNER.

DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

IT'S A LIMITED CUSTOMER BASE ANYWAYS, SO THEREFORE IT'S NOT, AND IT'S GONNA BE LIT UP 24 HOURS A DAY.

SO I GOT THAT BIG BRIGHT LIGHT NOW I CAN SEE FROM THE END OF MY DRIVEWAY, WELL PROBABLY COULDN'T SEE IT FROM MY HOME ITSELF, BUT ANYWAY, NOW I'M GONNA LOSE TIME HERE, BUT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SPEAK MORE, BUT I KNOW I CAN'T, SO I'LL HAVE TO END AT THAT POINT.

BUT I REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE 2050 PLAN AND ALL THE TIME THAT WAS SPENT ON IT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

AGAIN, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN AND YOU'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK DURING, WELL, I'LL BE HERE.

IF I CAN JUST ADD ONE MORE THING, JUST AS A COMMENT.

ABSOLUTELY.

I, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE PEOPLE BEING HERE AND ALL THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD.

I KNOW THIS IS PRELIMINARY.

I, I KNOW SOMETIMES WE START ASKING BIGGER QUESTIONS AND KYLE, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING LIKE, THESE CONVERSATIONS SHOULD BE TAKEN WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.

I THINK THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WE HEAR FROM COUNCIL DURING THESE TIMES ALSO HELP CONTINUE TO SHAPE THE PLANS.

I HAVE SEEN DEVELOPERS COME IN AND WE'VE TALKED HIGHLY, UM, AND AT LENGTH ABOUT A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT HAS HELPED LEAD TO CHANGES.

UM, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE LIGHTING LOOK LIKE AROUND, THAT'S TOO EARLY TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY TALKED ABOUT WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, UM, AND, AND THE IMPACT TO NEIGHBORS AND TRAFFIC IS A BIG THING.

SO I THINK AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS, IT ALSO HELPS ENLIGHTEN THE COMMUNITY AND SHOW THAT WE ARE NOT JUST HAVING AN INITIAL MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER OURSELF AND BRUSHING THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.

SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE TIME TO, UM, BE ABLE TO TAKE OUR TIME AND TALK THROUGH THESE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

MR. BARRY, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? ALRIGHT, I HAVE A COMMENT.

WE, WE, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS HIS NO, NO, NO CONCERN, PLEASE.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN.

I THINK THIS IS GOOD DISCIPLINARY PLAN.

I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOT ALL THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FOR NOW, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS PUBLIC READING.

I MOVE IT BE APPROVED SECOND.

I'M SORRY, WHO'S THE SECOND? RANDY? THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNDER LANS THIS EVENING.

I STUR FOR THE PURPOSES OF

[Ordinance C-54-26 Grant an Exceptional Circumstance for 3981 Broadway to increase the maximum award under the Town Center Commercial Revitalization Grant Program and appropriate $40,000 for same. First reading. ]

THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

UH, YES.

SO FIRST WE HAVE, UH, ORDINANCE C 54 26 ORDINANCE RAN AN EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCE FOR 39 81 BROADWAY TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM AWARD UNDER THE TOWN CENTER COMMERCIAL REVITALIZATION GRANT PROGRAM.

AND APPROPRIATE $40,000.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

SECOND READING WILL BE ON NOVEMBER 2ND.

THERE'S NOBODY ON THAT, RIGHT? NO, THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE WE HAD, UM, MR. STERN.

ADDITIONAL MONIES WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

UM, WE HAD A COUPLE COMMENTS AND CAUCUS, UM, ONE ABOUT THE, UH, INABILITY TO SUBMIT FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS FOR THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S A 10,000 A YEAR.

SO THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONAL REQUEST, MEANING WITH 40,000, YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REQUEST FOR A COUPLE THREE YEARS.

AND, UM, USUALLY THAT'S IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT WE DON'T SEE IT IN THIS ONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT APPLIES TO, BUT WE MAYBE SHOULD UPDATE THAT BEFORE THE SECOND READING.

MR. TURNER, WHAT, WHAT'D YOU GET MR. ROUTE? UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I ASKED ABOUT THAT WHEN THIS ORDINANCE WAS SUBMITTED.

THIS IS A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE WITH LITTLE THEATER OFF BROADWAY.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING TO, UH, RAISE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT WAS IN DELIBERATELY LEFT OUT FOR THE TIME BEING, BUT ANY, UH,

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SO YOU'D HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

RESOLUTION CR 43 26 A RESOLUTION, ACCEPTING THE AMOUNTS AND RATES AS DETERMINED BY THE BUDGET COMMISSION AND AUTHORIZING THE NECESSARY TAX LEVIES AND CERTIFYING THEM TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE

[Resolution CR-43-26 Accepting the Amounts and Rates as determined by the Budget Commission and Authorizing the Necessary Tax Levies and Certifying them to the County Auditor. ]

UM, YES.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS COUNSEL.

THIS IS A, UH, STANDARD, IT'S REQUIRED BY OHIO REVISED CODE.

WE NEED TO, UH, PASS THIS RESOLUTION AND RETURN IT BACK TO THE COUNTY BY OCTOBER 31ST.

SO IF YOU REMEMBER, BACK IN JULY, WE DID A TAX BUDGET AND IT'S JUST THE REVENUE ESTIMATES FOR 2027.

INCLUDED IN THAT BUDGET IS AN EXHIBIT THAT SAYS HOW MANY LEVEES WE WANT TO LEVY FOR REAL ESTATE TAX COLLECTION.

AND THAT IS 3.5.

THE COUNTY TAKES THAT DOCUMENT AND THEN THEY SEND US THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH THEY USE TO CALCULATE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WE WILL RECEIVE USING THOSE LEVIES.

UM, WE HAVE LEVIED 3.5 MILS FOR 20 YEARS IN A ROW.

WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK 38 YEARS BEFORE WE WOULD FIND A TIME WHEN WE ACTUALLY INCREASED REAL ESTATE TAXES.

AND DURING THAT TIME, WE DECREASE REAL ESTATE TAX RATES, UH, 13 TIMES.

THESE 3.5 MILS WILL PRODUCE $6.6 MILLION WORTH OF REAL ESTATE TAXES.

WE USE ONE AND A HALF MILLION OF THAT TO PAY FOR OUR POLICE PENSION COSTS.

WE USE 2.7 MILLION OF THAT TO PAY FOR DEBT SERVICE.

AND THEY LAST 2.4 MILLION IS, GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND TO BE USED FOR ANY GENERAL FUND PURPOSE.

UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER 'EM QUESTIONS.

NOPE, I JUST THINK IT'S WORTH, JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, WE HAVEN'T RAISED PROPERTY TAXES FOR 20 YEARS.

20 YEARS.

IT'S BEEN THE SAME.

WE HAVEN'T, IT WAS 20 YEARS, 38 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE INCREASED.

AND YOU AS A COUNCIL HAS THE, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO LEVY SEVEN MILLS, WHICH WOULD BE TWICE AS MUCH AS THIS, BUT WE'VE STAYED AT 3.5 MILLS FOR 20 YEARS, WHICH, UH, PRODUCES $6.6 MILLION.

WOW.

ALRIGHT, THIS, UH, RESOLUTION HAS HAD ITS READING IN PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO BE APPROVED.

AND THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

PRESENTATION FOR ON THE TOWN CENTER PARK.

WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS, BUT WE DO HAVE A

[Update on Town Center Park ]

SO IF, IF THAT TEAM WOULD COME FORWARD.

AND JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS, UM, THIS CONCEPT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT PROBABLY OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

AND WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO DIG INTO SOME, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AS FAR AS WHAT THAT PLAN WOULD BE.

AND SO THESE GENTLEMEN AND, AND, UH, OUR PARKS TEAM HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD A CONCEPT.

UM, SO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UH, I'M SAM ROSENTHAL WITH SCHOOLY CALDWELL.

UM, WE'LL JUMP IN AND I'LL HAVE MY, MY CO-PRESENTERS PRESENT AS THEY COME.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TOWN CENTER PARK, ROUGHLY THREE AND A HALF ACRES, RIGHT DOWN THAT WAY, RIGHT OFF OF, UM, BROADWAY.

UM, FOR CONTEXT, UM, THERE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, PARKING LOTS SURROUNDED BY, UH, OPEN LAWN.

THE EXISTING STAGE, THE OBJECTIVES OF THE DESIGN WERE TO CREATE BETTER ACCESS FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND PHYSICAL ABILITIES TO IMPROVE CONNECTIONS TO BROADWAY, TO BE FLEXIBLE FOR EVENTS AND SPECIAL, UH, OCCASIONS TO ENHANCE ALL OF THE, UM, PUBLIC, UH, EVENTS LIKE ARTS IN THE ALLEY AND THE BOURBON FEST.

UM, JUST TO BETTER SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN GROVE CITY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO A LOT OF THESE EVENTS, UM, ARE ALREADY TAKING PLACE.

WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WAYS TO ENHANCE, UH, JUST THE OPERATIONS, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE POWER FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO CUT DOWN ON GENERATOR NOISE, TO PROVIDE ENHANCED SEATING AND, AND ONCE AGAIN TO PRO, TO PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS FOR FOLKS IN WHEELCHAIRS.

FOLKS PU PUSHING STROLLERS, JUST THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS HERE TO GROVE CITY.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE

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ARE A LOT OF EVENTS THAT HAPPEN BEING ABLE TO, UH, IMPROVE AND, UH, ENHANCE THE OFFERINGS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE BIGGER EVENTS, MORE SHOWS, AND JUST BETTER SUPPORT FESTIVALS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, NOT JUST DURING GREAT WEATHER, BUT DURING SOGGIER TIMES WHEN THE LAWNS GET SATURATED.

BEING ABLE TO HAVE CAR SHOWS, BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT MORE AND MORE VARIED ACTIVITIES.

THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UM, HELPING TO RELIEVE THE DENSITY AND IMPROVE ACCESS FOR VENDORS AND OTHERS AS THEY COME TO THE SPACE.

AND NEXT SLIDE.

AND JUST TO PROVIDE MORE VARIETY OF SEATING OPTIONS AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE SHADE, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE BETTER PLANTINGS AND REALLY MAKING A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT FOR THE CITIZENS OF GROVE CITY.

SO I'LL TURN TO MY COLLEAGUE ZACH.

HI, UM, UH, ZACH SAVS WITH REALM COLLABORATIVE.

AND THIS IS A CONCEPT, UH, BUBBLE DIAGRAM ON THE LEFT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN FROM BEFORE.

AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO WITH THIS SPACE, UH, IS CREATE A FLEXIBLE SPACE FOR EVENTS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAVE THIS SPACE FUNCTION AS THE PARK SO IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN A SEA OF PAVERS, BUT YOU'RE REALLY WITHIN GREEN AND CREATING REALLY STRONG EDGES THAT THIS IS A SPACE THAT YOU'D WANT TO COME TO ALL YEAR ROUND.

SO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.

AND FROM BEFORE WE HAD MUCH MORE OPEN PLAZA SPACE, AND I THINK THAT WE BELIEVED INTERNALLY THAT WE NEEDED TO GREEN THIS UP AND REALLY CREATE, UH, CREATE A SPACE THAT ISN'T AS ONE DIMENSIONAL, BUT HAS LAYERS TO IT.

SO THERE'S DIFFERENT, UM, AREAS FOR SEATING, DIFFERENT, UM, SPACE TO BE UP WITH, UH, WITH UNDER AND WITH, UH, UNDERNEATH.

AND THEN ALSO BEGINNING TO, UM, PLAY WITH WHERE THE PAVILION, RESTROOMS, GREEN ROOMS ARE TO CREATE REALLY STRONG EDGES IN THIS SPACE.

AND SO HERE'S JUST A ZOOMED IN VERSION OF THE, UM, CURRENT STRATEGY PLAN.

SO WE HAVE TWO LARGE LAWN PANELS THAT, UM, ARE JUST SOUTH OF WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE PLAZA THAT'S COMING OFF OF THE EXISTING STAGE.

IN THAT CENTER LAWN PANEL, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING AN EXISTING SYCAMORE TREE THAT, UH, IS THERE TODAY, WHICH IS, UM, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS PLAN.

AND THEN FLANKING THOSE LAWN SPACES WILL BE WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE GROVES, WHICH THIS IS WHERE YOUR PEOPLE SPACE IS, WHERE THERE'S SOME MOVABLE FURNITURE AND THEN SOME FIXED FURNITURE WHERE YOU CAN REALLY HAVE STRONG EDGES.

AND THEN THIS WOULD BE, UM, HELD BY THE PAVILION TO THE SOUTH.

SO AS SAM MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, REALLY TRYING TO OVER INDEX FOR EVENTS.

AND THIS, UH, ALL OF THE LITTLE COLORS AND SQUARES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ARE TAKEN FROM AN EXISTING, UM, EVENT DIAGRAM THAT WE FOUND.

SO WE DIDN'T ADD ANY OF THESE PIECES.

THESE ARE ALL PIECES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TODAY.

WE'RE JUST SHUFFLING THEM AROUND ON THE SITE TO CREATE FOR BETTER, UH, FLOW OF, OF PEOPLE.

SO WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING THIS PROMENADE THAT LEADS FROM BROADWAY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SITE.

AND SO THAT'S WIDENING THE STREET TO CREATE A BETTER PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AS YOU MOVE FROM BROADWAY.

AND IN DOING SO, WE'RE TAKING THOSE YELLOW, UH, RECTANGLES, WHICH ARE THE EVENT TENTS AND CREATING MORE SPACE.

IF YOU SAW THE IMAGE FROM BEFORE IN THE PRESENTATION, HOW NARROW IT GETS ON PARK STREET THERE.

SO THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO WIDEN THE SPACE UP, CREATE A TREE LINE SO YOU CAN BE WITHIN THE TREES AND STILL HAVE SOME SPACE TO MANEUVER, AS WELL AS THEN UTILIZING THESE LAWN SPACES IN THE CENTER TO HAVE YOUR, UH, 10 BY 10 10 SET UP.

SO WE CREATE NICE, UM, CIRCULATION AROUND THE EDGES THERE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE SAME PLAN AGAIN, ZOOMED IN THAT HAS SOME DIMENSIONS ON IT FOR, UM, FOR REFERENCE.

AND SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS.

AND SO THIS IS LOOKING BACK FROM BROADWAY, REALLY TRYING TO SHOW HOW WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THIS EXTENSION OF THE PARK SO YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU GET TO THE PARK WHEN YOU GET TO THE, THE CORNER THERE, BUT IT, IT REALLY FEELS LIKE THE PARK STARTS AT BROADWAY.

NOW, AGAIN, UM, ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU CAN START TO SEE THOSE GROVES THAT PROVIDE, UM, A NICE EDGE AS YOU'RE MOVING DOWN IN SPACE.

AND THEN YOU SORT OF BREAK THROUGH THOSE GROVES AT SPECIFIC TIMES, UM, TO THEN ENTER WHERE THE PLAZA AND THE TWO LAWN SPACES ARE.

SO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE GROUND NOW WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE THESE GATEWAY ELEMENTS THAT ARE AT STRATEGIC LOCATIONS.

AS YOU ENTER THE SPACE, I THINK WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS START TO PULL SOME, UM, OF THE MOTIFS OF THERE, THERE ARE CURRENTLY SOME ARCHES IN THE STREET, UM, TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND OF SOME OF THE FENCING AROUND DOWNTOWN.

WE WANTED TO PULL SOME OF THAT IN AS WELL AS YOU CAN SEE HANGING FROM THOSE ARCHES, THE GAS LANTERNS THAT ARE SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT SAME FEELING, UM,

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OF THE DOWNTOWN AND, AND BRING THAT INTO THIS SPACE.

AND SO HERE WE'RE GONNA, UH, KIND OF CLICK THROUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN HERE.

SO THIS WOULD BE ON A TYPICAL DAY, YOU THINK YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME KIDS COULD BE PLAYING AROUND ON THEIR BIKES, BUT IT'S, IT'S OPEN AND, AND, AND AIRY AND FLEXIBLE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE LAWN SPACE THERE AS WELL.

BUT ON, YOU KNOW, YEAH, , UH, ON A CONCERT SERIES DAY, YOU CAN REALLY BEGIN TO SEE HOW THE SPACE CAN BE UTILIZED WITH THE LAWN CHAIRS.

UM, THERE'S STILL, THERE'S STILL SOFT SPACE TO SIT AND THE, AND THE LAWN OFF TO THE LEFT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS CREATE THE MOST FLEXIBLE PLAZA THAT WE CAN, UM, RIGHT OFF OF THE STAGE HERE.

SO AGAIN, AS SAM MENTIONED, ON DAYS THAT MIGHT HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER THAT UM, OR ON EVEN DAYS PRIOR TO AN EVENT, THAT LAWN MAY GET SATURATED.

BUT IN THIS SCENARIO, HAVING THIS ALL PAVED AND FLEXIBLE, UM, THAT ISSUE WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T, UH, OCCUR.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING FOR, UM, SOME OF THOSE EVENTS.

AND THEN ALSO IF YOU NEED TO DRIVE FOOD TRUCKS OR CARS UP HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT TEARING UP THE LAWN.

IT PROVIDES A NICE HARDSCAPE SPACE FOR THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS.

HERE'S ANOTHER ITERATION OF THINKING.

THERE COULD BE A FALL FESTIVAL AND YOU CAN START TO SEE WHERE THE TENTS ARE PLACED UP ALONG THE LAWN THERE.

MAYBE YOU START TO BRING SOME TENTS INTO THE PLAZA SPACE TO HAVE SOME FOOD TRUCKS.

YOU COULD EVEN BRING IN SOME SORT OF, SOME BENCHES AND SOME SEATING.

UM, JUST, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU THE FLEXIBILITY OF THIS SPACE AND HOW IT CAN BE UTILIZED.

AND THEN HERE IS A, UH, WINTER MARKET.

YOU CAN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING ALL THE TREES UP, UM, CREATING A REALLY NICE AMBIANCE THERE, BRINGING IN SOME HEATERS AND THEN SOME MORE TENTS.

YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONCERT GOING ON IN THE STAGE.

JUST AGAIN, TRYING TO GIVE YOU GUYS A FEELING OF HOW THE SPACE COULD BE USED ALL YEAR ROUND, NOT JUST ONE IN THE WARMER MONTHS.

ANOTHER COMPONENT TO THIS PARK IS THE PAVILION AND A, UH, PLAYGROUND AREA.

SO THERE'D BE SOME PLAY STRUCTURES FLANKING EACH SIDE OF THE PAVILION THERE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME SWINGS.

AND THIS WOULD ALL BE, UM, NATURE PLAY.

SO I'D LOOK TO BE BLEND IN.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT AS, UM, IT'S NOT AS MANY POPS OF COLOR, BUT IT'S MEANT TO MORE, UH, COMPLIMENTS THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE USING ON THE REST OF THE PLAN HERE.

AND THEN THESE LAST FEW RENDERINGS HERE, THIS IS THE PROMENADE.

SO PARK STREET IS TO THE LEFT AND THESE ARE THESE GROVES THAT WITH THE GRADING TODAY, IT SITS A BIT HIGH, SO IT'LL SLOPE BACK DOWN TOWARDS THE ROAD.

AND SO YOU CAN START TO SEE THESE RAMPS THAT WILL SNEAK IN BETWEEN THE GROVES.

AND THEN A COUPLE OF STEPS WHERE YOU CAN STEP UP.

AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE'RE THINKING THAT YOU HAVE SOME OF THAT SOFT MOVABLE SEATING SO YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, GRAB YOUR CHAIR AND MOVE IT UNDERNEATH A, A TREE OR WHAT, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO USE THE SPACE.

BUT THIS IS REALLY MEANT TO BE FLEXIBLE AS WELL FOR PEDESTRIANS.

AND THEN LOOKING AT HOW THIS COULD BE USED ON A FESTIVAL NIGHT.

UM, REALLY CREATING THIS STRONG WIDE PROMENADE SO THAT YOU STILL HAVE THE ROOM TO PUT IN THOSE TENTS, BUT IT STILL FEELS REALLY COMFORTABLE AS YOU'RE MOVING THROUGH.

AND THEN WE'D ALSO HAVE SOME STREET TREES ALONG PARK THERE TO REALLY BEGIN TO CREATE A CANOPY AS YOU MOVE UP AND DOWN THE PROMENADE, I THINK.

UH, AND THEN, UM, JUST IN, IN THE DISTANCE THERE, YOU CAN START TO SEE SOME FOOD TRUCKS.

UM, I THINK THE WAY THAT THE PARK IS DESIGNED, SOME OF THOSE FOOD TRUCKS DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ON THE PLAZA, BUT THEY COULD BE ALONG THE EDGES OF THE LAWN TOO.

SO REALLY TRYING TO CREATE THE MOST FLEXIBLE SPACE.

A COUPLE MORE COMPONENTS HERE BEFORE WE WRAP UP.

THERE WOULD BE THE GREEN ROOM, WHICH IS TO THE UPPER LEFT, WHICH WOULD BE BEHIND THE EXISTING STAGE.

UM, THEN TO THE CENTER MIDDLE, UM, UH, CENTER TOP WOULD BE, UH, PUBLIC RESTROOMS THAT COULD BE ACCESSED ON BOTH SIDES.

AND THEN FINALLY THE PAVILION OFF TO THE RIGHT.

AND THEN, UH, THE LAST COMPONENT TO THIS IS THE PARKING LOT, WHICH, UM, WOULD BE RELOCATED FROM WHERE IT IS TODAY OFF TO BEHIND THE STAGE.

AND WITH THIS PARKING LOT, UM, WE'D BE ACCOUNTING FOR ALL THE SPACES THAT WE WOULD BE EATING UP ON PARK STREET FROM, UM, EXPANDING THAT PROMENADE.

I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY GAINING A COUPLE OF SPACES SO WE'RE NOT LOSING ANY PARKING.

AND THEN THIS IS THE LAST S RENDERING THAT I'LL LEAVE YOU GUYS WITH.

JUST THE, UM, SUNSET VIEW OF THE PARK.

SO THAT'S THE, THE OVERVIEW OF THE DESIGN.

THERE'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT GOES INTO THIS, OF COURSE, THE, UM, THE IMAGES SELL, THE, THE FEELING IT TELLS THE STORY ABOUT HOW THIS PLACE IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF ENGINEERING WORK AS WELL TO LOOK AT CAPACITIES FOR ELECTRICAL SERVICE TO LOOK AT GRADING, TO LOOK AT STORM WATER.

SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE, UH, LOOKING AT GEOTECHNICAL, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THIS ISN'T A, AN IMAGE ONLY, BUT THAT IT HAS BEEN VETTED.

UM, I'M GONNA INVITE MR. ERIC WALSH WITH CORDA,

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UM, THE CIVIL ENGINEER TO TALK ABOUT STORM WATER.

NEXT SLIDE.

ONE MORE.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, SO JUST TO QUICKLY TOUCH ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT THAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, JUST COLOR CODED THERE.

SO, UM, STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE NEW PARKING LOT TO THE WEST.

UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE CURB ON PARK TREES WILL BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY THERE.

UH, TO MAXIMIZE THAT USABLE SPACE ON THE SURFACE, UH, WE'RE SHOWING UNDERGROUND DETENTION, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH IT IN ADDITION TO, UM, SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WE'LL HAVE, UH, AS SAM INDICATED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAPACITY.

UH, WE'LL HAVE ELECTRIC LINES RUN THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

UH, THERE'LL BE LOCATIONS FOR FOOD TRUCK CONNECTIONS IN ADDITION TO VENDOR CON, UH, VENDOR CONNECTIONS FOR ANY KIND OF EVENTS.

AND OBVIOUSLY FOR THE RESTAURANTS WE'LL HAVE, UH, NEW SERVICE LINES FOR WATER AND FOR SEWER.

AND SO WITH ALL THIS CONTEXT, WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A, UH, AN ESTIMATE IF WE WERE TO BUILD THIS PROJECT AS YOU SEE IT TODAY, THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS WITH HVAC TO BE USED YEAR ROUND, THE PAVILION, UM, THE GATEWAY ELEMENTS, ALL OF THE PLANTINGS.

UM, THE PLAZA'S ROUGHLY 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

THERE'S ABOUT 14,500 SQUARE FEET OF LAWN.

THERE'S 238 TREES, 10 DIFFERENT SPECIES.

THERE'S A LOT THAT'S IN HERE, PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER.

THE GRADING AND THE EXTENSION OF PARK STREET TO BROADWAY, WERE ESTIMATED AT $13.6 MILLION, INCLUDING A 5% CONTINGENCY.

THE OBJECTIVE OF THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS TO GET YOUR COMMENTS, TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK TO MOVE FORWARD, HOPEFULLY INTO MORE DETAILED DESIGN WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PROJECT ESTIMATE AND WHAT IT'S BRINGING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I'LL JUST STOP AND LEAVE IT THERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

ALRIGHT, SO WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? ONE BITE AT THE APPLE.

YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTIONS.

WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? I'LL GO.

JODY , UM, THE PAVILION.

SO IS THIS GONNA BE LIKE AN OPEN CONCEPT OR IS IT GONNA BE CLOSED WHERE THEY CAN HAVE YEAR ROUND EVENTS? 'CAUSE WE REALLY DESPERATELY NEED MORE EVENTS BASED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU'VE ASKED A GREAT QUESTION IN ORDER TO BE SENSITIVE ABOUT THE TYPE OF SPACE.

THIS IS AN OPEN AIR PAVILION.

WE DID STUDY HAVING GARAGE DOORS, FIREPLACES, HEATERS, THERE ARE FANS PLANNED TO GO IN THERE AS PART OF THAT ESTIMATE IN ORDER TO KIND OF COOL THINGS DOWN IN THE WARMER MONTHS OR, AND IN THE WINTER, YES, IT WILL BE OPEN.

UH, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A WEDDING RECEPTION IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY, BUT THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE THAT TYPE OF EVENT SPACE.

UM, BATHROOMS, THE ONE BUILDING IS THAT THE ONLY BATHROOMS THAT WILL BE ON THE PARK SITE? THE GREEN ROOM WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS FOR PERFORMERS.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I IMAGINE THAT WHEN MARCHING BAND WILL BE PERFORMING THE, THERE'S GONNA GET AN OVERRUN ON THE RESTROOM THAT'S IN THE GREEN ROOM, BUT, UH, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC FACILITIES, THAT THAT RESTROOM STRUCTURE IS THE ONLY ONE.

DO YOU DON'T ESTIMATE HOW MANY RESTROOMS WERE IN EACH SIDE? ARE WE NOT THREE STALLS PER EACH.

THREE.

UM, AND THEN IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND DESIGN IT OUT, OBVIOUSLY THIS SPACE WOULD BE CLOSED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT WOULD THAT ESTIMATE BE? PROJECT DURATION WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A YEAR.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

WHO'S NEXT? YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

UH, I WILL SAY JUST BY LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION, I DEFINITELY THINK IT LOOKS NICE FOR GROVE CITY.

I THINK IT WOULD REALLY HELP BRING A LOT OF LIFE TO OUR, UM, TOWN CENTER.

SO WE SET A TOTAL OF SIX RESTROOMS. SO IT'S, UH, THE ONE BUILDING THREE STALLS IN MEN'S AND WOMEN'S.

SO SIX FIXTURES.

SIX STALLS.

THREE MEN, THREE WOMEN.

UM, DO, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS, LIKE ADDITIONAL PARKING NETTING FOR THE PROJECT? I THINK WE'RE ADDING THREE PARKING STALLS TO THE CAPACITY THAT'S THERE TODAY.

UM, I, UH, MENTIONED THIS DURING CAUCUS, AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS STILL VERY FAR OUT IF WE DECIDE

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TO PROCEED WITH THIS.

UM, BUT I JUST WAS, I REACHED OUT TO OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR, UM, MR. JACK CASTLE AND REQUESTED A MAP SHOWCASING THE PARKS THAT ARE IN PROXIMITY TO THIS LOCATION.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC, WE DID RECENTLY JUST APPROVE BROADWAY LIVE AS WELL, WHICH WILL BE HAPPENING JUST A FEW BLOCKS OVER.

UM, AND THAT WAS $6.5 MILLION THAT WE JUST APPROVED.

IS THAT CORRECT, COUNSEL? SO, YEAH, SO $6.5 MILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WE JUST APPROVED FOR THAT PROJECT.

UM, AND THEN THIS WOULD BE TH 13.6 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THAT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAVE HAVE TWO GRANTS, ONE $500,000 GRANT AND ONE $400,000 GRANT.

CORRECT.

UM, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THIS MAP, IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN TO EIGHT PARKS WITHIN LESS THAN A MILE AWAY FROM THIS LOCATION.

AND AS YOU LOOK OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT MILE RADIUS, THERE ARE MORE PARKS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK INTO MY WARD IN PARTICULAR, THERE AREN'T THAT MANY PARKS.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE AS WE CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION, AND THIS IS NOT REALLY FOR YOU, BUT FOR, FOR COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION TO HEAR, UM, THAT WE ARE, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING RECREATION AND PARKS PROPORTIONATELY FOR ALL AREAS OF THE CITY, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT NO PART OF OUR COMMUNITY IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT.

BECAUSE EVEN IF, UH, TOWN CENTER IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HEART OF THE CITY, RIGHT? WHICH I THINK TOWN CENTER IS BEAUTIFUL, AND AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND, IT'LL, IT'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK EVEN MORE, UH, OUTSTANDING.

BUT, UH, IT, THE MAP LOOKS VERY DISPROPORTIONATE RIGHT NOW TODAY.

AND ME BEING THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR WARD FIVE, I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO PROCEED WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS WHEN THERE SHOULD STILL BE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT OTHER AREAS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

AND THAT IS ALL FOR ME.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? YES.

THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS, AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC, RIGHT BACK WHEN THIS WAS FIRST.

UM, THANK YOU.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SOME COMMENTS.

ONE, I THINK THIS IS JUST INCREDIBLE AND SO EXCITING.

UM, I DO SIT, UM, AS, UM, ALONGSIDE THE PARK BOARD AS THE CHAIR OF THE PARKS COMMITTEE.

SO I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ALONGSIDE WITH THE PARK BOARD AS THEY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS AND WALKING THROUGH PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE COUNCIL HAD A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.

I THINK THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE AND HAVING SOME HARDSCAPE, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO SIT THERE CHAIR ON, UM, A HARDSCAPE WHEELCHAIRS, UM, OTHER ACCESSIBILITY, UM, THINGS WHERE GRASS AND LAWN ARE NOT ALWAYS EASY.

I THINK YOU'VE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH HAVING THAT AMOUNT OF SPACE IN THE FRONT AND STILL CONTINUING GREEN SPACE, UM, AS WELL TO THE SIDE.

I THINK THE PROMENADE IDEA IS JUST GORGEOUS AND SEEING THAT EXPAND, UM, PARK STREET AND JUST DRAW PEOPLE IN IS SO PHENOMENAL.

UM, I ALSO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RESTROOMS. THESE ARE YEAR ROUND RESTROOMS, WHICH WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT I DEFINITELY KNOWING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO USE THIS SEASONALLY.

AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE OUR ONLY YEAR ROUND RESTROOMS IN OUR PARKS SYSTEM TO DATE.

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CINDY OR JACK, BUT THESE WOULD BE OUR ONLY YEAR ROUND RESTROOMS IN OUR PARK SYSTEM, AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND REALLY EXCITING.

UM, AND I THINK, UM, SOME THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN CAUCUS AS WELL, JUST THE INCREDIBLE ELECTRIC AND POWER ENHANCEMENTS THAT WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THIS TO BE ABLE TO STILL GENERATE THE POWER NEEDED FOR TENTS AND GENERATORS AND OTHER EVENTS THAT ONE, CREATE CORDS AND BIG, UM, BLOCKADES KIND OF IN THE STREETS THAT ARE HARDER FOR A DA AND STROLLERS.

UM, MR. HOLT ALSO BROUGHT UP A KEY POINT IS THAT A LOT OF OUR, UM, NONPROFITS OR, UH, GROUPS THAT ARE BRINGING IN EVENTS TO THE TOWN CENTER HAVE TO ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR GENERATORS AND, AND EXTRA EXTENSION CORDS.

AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WILL BE COST SAVINGS FOR THEM.

AND ANY, UM, ANYONE FROM OUR GRANT PROGRAM THAT IS REQUESTING FUNDS, UM, OF CITY DOLLARS TO HELP SUPPORT THEIR EVENTS THERE, IT'S ALSO COST SAVINGS FOR THEM.

AND I THINK WHAT'S REALLY EXCITING, AND I, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UM, MR. OMAR IS SAYING, UM, MR. CASTLE HAS CERTAINLY TAKEN A HUGE STEP WITH THIS MARK'S MASTER PARKS PLAN IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR PARKS AND WHAT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, THIS IS ASIDE FROM THIS, IT WOULD BE VERY, UM, GREAT TO SEE JUST ALL OF THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE.

I KNOW, UM, MS. FITZPATRICK MENTIONED DURING CAUCUS, THE RECENT, UM, UPDATES TO GANTZ PARK, UM, THAT WERE DONE THERE.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE KIND OF WHAT'S COMING FROM THE MASTER PARK PLAN, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE AS WE LOOK AT AT THIS OPPORTUNITY.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT BROADWAY LIVE, THE CONVERSATION

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UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY THE, THE ORIGINAL LIBRARY SITE AND THEN WHEN IT WAS THROUGH AN ORDINANCE DEEMED THAT THIS WOULD BE, UM, A COMMUNITY GREEN SPACE AND NOT DEVELOPED AND NOT DEVELOPED FOR APARTMENT LIVING OR SHOPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

CONVERSATIONS THEN CONTINUED IN TERMS OF, UM, AS, AS BROADWAY LIVE STARTED COMING INTO THE PICTURE, WHAT KIND OF A PROMENADE COULD GO FROM THIS AREA DOWN TO BROADWAY LIVE.

SO FUTURE, FUTURE, FUTURE, UM, BUT JUST THINGS THAT ARE REALLY EXCITING TO THINK ABOUT AS WE CONTINUE TO ENHANCE OUR, UM, DOWNTOWN AS WE HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT CONTINUE TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND AS WE, I THINK MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN GROVE CITY CAN SAY THAT OUR COMMUNITY, AS BIG AS IT IS, STILL HAS THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL.

THIS IS WHAT IS THE CHERRY ON TOP OF IT FOR THE SMALL TOWN FIELD.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, JUST, JUST REAL QUICK, I I, THE, THE CONCEPT OF THIS IS, IS REALLY AMAZING.

I, IT, I, I REALLY LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT, THAT, THAT IT IS, THAT IT IS GOING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SEE PEOPLE DOWN, DOWN HERE, UH, DOWNTOWN FROM ALL OVER THE CITY ALL THE TIME.

THIS IS EVEN GONNA BE A BIGGER WIN, UH, FOR, FOR THAT, UH, IN THE LONG TERM.

OBVIOUSLY, MY, MY MIND IMMEDIATELY GOES TO HOW ARE WE GONNA PAY FOR IT? UH, BUT THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT AS WE GET INTO BUDGET SEASON HERE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.

BUT, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR COMING.

GO AHEAD, .

UM, GOOD STUFF.

I THINK I JUST HAVE A COUPLE TECHNICAL DETAILS.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE YOU KEEP CONSIDERING, OR CINDY, TO CONTINUE TO CONSIDER.

AND, UH, I, I TOO WITH JODI THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD, UM, MAKE A BETTER PROMENADE BUILDING MAYBE THAT COULD BE USED YEAR ROUND, CLOSED OFF AND USED FOR EVENTS.

SO THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS ON THAT.

AND, UH, I'M REALLY A RESTROOM GUY.

ARE YEAR ROUND.

UM, AND SO I WOULD HOPE THAT, UM, IF WE DO THESE RESTROOMS, WE WOULDN'T NEED 20 PORTA POTS SITTING AROUND THERE, BUT I THINK BACK AT THE EVENTS AND THERE'S 20 PORTA POTS THERE THAT ARE BUSY, AND I DON'T SEE HOW THREE AND THREE ARE GONNA BE ENOUGH FOR ALL THAT.

SO, UM, JUST MAYBE THINK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THOSE RESTROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE 'EM, I JUST, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE NOT HAVE PORTA POTTS IN OUR REAL NICE EVENT, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD.

UM, AND THE GREEN ROOM'S REALLY GOOD TOO, SO THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPACE BACK THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GET READY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO OVERALL I'M PRETTY GOOD.

THOSE ARE MY TWO COMMENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING IN.

APPRECIATE IT, MAYOR.

YOUR

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REPORT, SIR.

WELL, I WANNA, THIS REALLY DOESN'T GET ALONG WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT I WANT GO BACK TO THE OBSERVATION ABOUT YOU CAN BROADWAY LIVE.

UH, THE WAY THE BROADWAY LIVE WORKS IS 4 MILLION UPON THE CITY'S ACCEPTANCE OF THE PARK OF THE PUBLIC PARKING FACILITY, 1.5 MILLION UPON THE CITY'S ACCEPTANCE OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FROM BROADWAY AND CLEVELAND AVENUE, AND THEN 1 MILLION UPON THE COMPLETION OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

SO IT'S NOT, WE'RE THROWING DOWN 6, 5, 6 0.5 MILLION AT ONE ONE TIME, AND THEY'RE ALL SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROPRIATION AND ACCEPTANCE.

SO IT'S NOT A PRE-APPROVED.

UM, WE, WE DO HAVE SOME MONEY IN THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE, BUT IT, IT IS ALL SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL.

JUST CLARITY ON THAT.

UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS.

UH, YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT I, I WAS, UH, TOLD THAT ON THE 22ND OF OCTOBER, JUST THREE MORE DAYS, UH, IT'S, UH, THERE'S A PROGRAM CALLED LIGHTS ON FOR AFTER SCHOOL, AND I'VE BEEN OF A PROCLAMATION, BUT THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS IS, UH, OUR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE ENROLLED FOR THE, THE, THE, UH, FOR THE FALL, JACK? UH, YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, A LITTLE OVER 250 KIDS.

IMAGINE THAT.

THROUGH, NO, THROUGH NOVEMBER 1ST, SO OH, REALLY? YEAH, THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH, UM, THROUGH HALLOWEEN.

AND SO WE GET AN A ON, I THINK WE GET AN A ON THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM, BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT, IT, IT HAS THAT KIND OF HYPE THAT IT GETS A NATIONAL RECOGNITION.

UM, AND I'M GONNA ALWAYS MISPRONOUNCE THIS WORD, THE MINION HUNT.

YOU GOT IT RIGHT, MIN.

UNBELIEVABLE.

I DON'T HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOWN HERE AT NIGHT, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, WELL, SATURDAY, UH, THERE, THERE WERE KIDS AND ADULTS RUNNING OVER EVERYWHERE AND, AND EVERY NIGHT THERE HAVE BEEN, WHEN'S THAT PROGRAM IN? IS THERE A DATE THAT

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AND THEN AFTER THAT, THAT FOLLOWING WEEK, WE'LL COLLECT THEM.

WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, THAT'S A HOME RUN THOUGH, WITH, UH, HAVING THAT MANY, AND AS I SAY, AS MANY ADULTS AS THERE ARE CHILDREN IN, IN DOING DOMINION HUNT.

UH, I HAVE NO OTHER POINTS.

ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE MAYOR? OKAY, CINDY, ANYTHING? NOTHING FOR ME THIS EVENING.

PRESENT, UH, ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS? OKAY, STEVEN? I HAVE NOTHING, SIR.

THANK YOU, MS. KELLY.

NOTHING.